Category: USA

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Guest:

• Yeghia Tashjian

Topics:

• Iran’s Geopolitical Moves
• Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
• Stalled “Normalization”

Episode 353 | Recorded: August 12, 2024

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Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• Who Will be the Next Leader of the US?
• Turkish-Armenian Talks
• US-Armenian Defense Coop
• Armenia Azerbaijan Talks

Episode 348 | Recorded: July 30, 2024

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Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• Who Will be the Next Leader of the US?
• Turkish-Armenian Talks
• US-Armenian Defense Coop
• Armenia Azerbaijan Talks

Episode 348 | Recorded: July 30, 2024

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Guest:

• Anna Karapetyan

Topics:

• Trilateral US-EU-Armenia Meeting
• Talks with Azerbaijan
  • Tavush: What has Pashinyan Promised
• Relations with Russia in Freefall
• Pashinyan Suppressing Artsakh Leadership

Episode 323 | Recorded: April 8, 2024

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Guest:

• Anna Karapetyan

Topics:

• Trilateral US-EU-Armenia Meeting
• Talks with Azerbaijan
  • Tavush: What has Pashinyan Promised
• Relations with Russia in Freefall
• Pashinyan Suppressing Artsakh Leadership

Episode 323 | Recorded: April 8, 2024

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• DONATE to GROONG

Topics:

• US Strategic Interests in the South Caucasus
• The Challenge of Armenia’s Neighborhood
• Weaponry that could help Armenia
• Clear Expectations and Limits
• The Turkish Factor
• The Iranian Factor

Guest:

• Paul Cormarie

Episode 321 | Recorded: March 26, 2024

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Topics:

• US Strategic Interests in the South Caucasus
• The Challenge of Armenia’s Neighborhood
• Weaponry that could help Armenia
• Clear Expectations and Limits
• The Turkish Factor
• The Iranian Factor

Guest:

• Paul Cormarie

Episode 321 | Recorded: March 26, 2024

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• linktr.ee/Groong

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
• Armenian Diplomacy in the West
• Relations with Russia

Episode 296 | Recorded: December 3, 2023

Groong Links:

• linktr.ee/Groong

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
• Armenian Diplomacy in the West
• Relations with Russia

Episode 296 | Recorded: December 3, 2023

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Outstanding Causes of the Conflict
• Why did Aliyev Bail out of Granada?
• Could Azerbaijan Attack Armenia?
• How Might Events Unfold?

Episode 283 | Recorded: October 5, 2023

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Outstanding Causes of the Conflict
• Why did Aliyev Bail out of Granada?
• Could Azerbaijan Attack Armenia?
• How Might Events Unfold?

Episode 283 | Recorded: October 5, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• The Game of Alternatives
• How does it apply to Negotiations?
• Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively?

Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• The Game of Alternatives
• How does it apply to Negotiations?
• Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively?

Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches
• What “Peace Treaty” in Granada?
• Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage

Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G. Martirosyan

Topics:

• Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches
• What “Peace Treaty” in Granada?
• Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage

Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023

Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023

Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023

Guest:

• Gev Iskajyan

Topics:

• Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh - Gegham Stepanyan
• Zakharova Confirms Conditions, Calls on Azerbaijan to Drop Blockade
• Hakari video fiasco - Pashinyan propaganda?
• Azeri preconditions to Baku-Stepanakert talks
• ANCA supported NDAA resolutions in US Congress

Episode 267 | Recorded: July 7, 2023

Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023

Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023

Guest:

• Gev Iskajyan

Topics:

• Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh - Gegham Stepanyan
• Zakharova Confirms Conditions, Calls on Azerbaijan to Drop Blockade
• Hakari video fiasco - Pashinyan propaganda?
• Azeri preconditions to Baku-Stepanakert talks
• ANCA supported NDAA resolutions in US Congress

Episode 267 | Recorded: July 7, 2023

Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia

Guest:

• Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian

Topics:

• Intro to Ms Aghajanian
  • Career path, Mentors, Influencers
  • Parting ways with the MFA
• How did Armenia Resist Turkish Pressure prior to 2018
• Impressions of 2018 events
• On Pashinyan’s Policies to Surrender Artsakh
  • Letter Planning the Surrender
  • Messaging Aliyev to begin Instigations
  • Changing Security Doctrine
• The Myth of Western Security Guarantees
• Pashinyan’s Fiction re Alma Ata and Madrid Principles
• On Armenia’s National Interests
• On Armenian

Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia

Guest:

• Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian

Topics:

• Intro to Ms Aghajanian
  • Career path, Mentors, Influencers
  • Parting ways with the MFA
• How did Armenia Resist Turkish Pressure prior to 2018
• Impressions of 2018 events
• On Pashinyan’s Policies to Surrender Artsakh
  • Letter Planning the Surrender
  • Messaging Aliyev to begin Instigations
  • Changing Security Doctrine
• The Myth of Western Security Guarantees
• Pashinyan’s Fiction re Alma Ata and Madrid Principles
• On Armenia’s National Interests
• On Armenian

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topic:

• Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel Meet in Brussels
  • Azerbaijan Attacks Sotk
• Turkish Presidential Elections

Episode 255 | Recorded: May 15, 2023

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topic:

• Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel Meet in Brussels
  • Azerbaijan Attacks Sotk
• Turkish Presidential Elections

Episode 255 | Recorded: May 15, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur Khachikyan

Topics:

• Azerbaijan Officially Blocks Berdzor/Lachin Corridor
• Update on Armenian-Azeri Negotiations
• Drug Use Epidemic in Armenia

Episode 251 | Recorded: May 1, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur Khachikyan

Topics:

• Azerbaijan Officially Blocks Berdzor/Lachin Corridor
• Update on Armenian-Azeri Negotiations
• Drug Use Epidemic in Armenia

Episode 251 | Recorded: May 1, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G Martirosyan

Topics:

• Army Day - January 28
  • Events at Yerablur
• New EU Monitoring Mission
  • Armenia’s Diplomacy
  • Russia’s Increasing Displeasure
  • Iran’s Tempered Displeasure
• Artsakh Blockade

Episode 219 | Recorded: January 29, 2023

Guest:

• Arthur G Martirosyan

Topics:

• Army Day - January 28
  • Events at Yerablur
• New EU Monitoring Mission
  • Armenia’s Diplomacy
  • Russia’s Increasing Displeasure
  • Iran’s Tempered Displeasure
• Artsakh Blockade

Episode 219 | Recorded: January 29, 2023

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Massive Stepanakert Rally
• The Sullivan Plan
• CSTO Security Council Convened
• Trilateral Summit in Sochi
• From Sochi to Tehran

Episode 173 | Recorded: November 1, 2022

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Topics:

• Massive Stepanakert Rally
• The Sullivan Plan
• CSTO Security Council Convened
• Trilateral Summit in Sochi
• From Sochi to Tehran

Episode 173 | Recorded: November 1, 2022

Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022

Topics:

• Constitutional Change Commission
• Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
• State of Bright Armenia Party
• Turkish-Armenian Normalization

Guest:

• Edmon Marukyan, who is a lawyer by profession and the leader of the Bright Armenia party (Լուսավոր Հայաստան). He was a member of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations of the National Assembly of the Republic of Armenia from 2012 till 2021. He’s also a member of the newly formed commission to amend the constitution.

Guest(s):

• Edmon Marukyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan

Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022

Topics:

• Constitutional Change Commission
• Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
• State of Bright Armenia Party
• Turkish-Armenian Normalization

Guest:

• Edmon Marukyan, who is a lawyer by profession and the leader of the Bright Armenia party (Լուսավոր Հայաստան). He was a member of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations of the National Assembly of the Republic of Armenia from 2012 till 2021. He’s also a member of the newly formed commission to amend the constitution.

Guest(s):

• Edmon Marukyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan

ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00:00 Introduction
• 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
• 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
• 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of Democracy in Armenia
• 00:46:42 Who Needs Armenia?
• 01:06:32 Latest MPG Poll Results in Yerevan
• 01:18:51 Rants

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Guest(s):

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 119 | Recorded: Sunday, February 14, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220213.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00:00 Introduction
• 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
• 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
• 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of Democracy in Armenia
• 00:46:42 Who Needs Armenia?
• 01:06:32 Latest MPG Poll Results in Yerevan
• 01:18:51 Rants

Guest:

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Guest(s):

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 119 | Recorded: Sunday, February 14, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220213.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00 Introduction
• 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
• 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
• 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
• 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
• 31:11 Rants/Announcements

Guests:

• Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan

Guest(s):

• Suren Sargsyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq

Episode 116 | Recorded: Sunday, January 30, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220130.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00 Introduction
• 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
• 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
• 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
• 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
• 31:11 Rants/Announcements

Guests:

• Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan

Guest(s):

• Suren Sargsyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq

Episode 116 | Recorded: Sunday, January 30, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220130.html

Armenian Songs for Children Bedros Afeyan talks with Isabel Bayrakdarian

Groong Links:

• linktr.ee/Groong

Topics:

• Journey Back to Armenian Music
• Musical Harmony Between Armenian Music and Classical Canon
• Researching, Teaching and Choosing Songs
• Isabel’s Favorites and Influences

Guest:

• Isabel Bayrakdarian @IBsoprano

Host:

• Dr. Bedros Afeyan

Song Excerpts list & timestamps: (Note: All excerpts used with permission)

• 00:00 Komitas - Sleep My Child - Lullaby
• 01:35 Komitas - Six Children’s Songs
• 27:03 Ganachian - The Swallow / Tsitsernak
• 29:06 Komitas - Little Wooden

Armenian Songs for Children Bedros Afeyan talks with Isabel Bayrakdarian

Groong Links:

• linktr.ee/Groong

Topics:

• Journey Back to Armenian Music
• Musical Harmony Between Armenian Music and Classical Canon
• Researching, Teaching and Choosing Songs
• Isabel’s Favorites and Influences

Guest:

• Isabel Bayrakdarian @IBsoprano

Host:

• Dr. Bedros Afeyan

Song Excerpts list & timestamps: (Note: All excerpts used with permission)

• 00:00 Komitas - Sleep My Child - Lullaby
• 01:35 Komitas - Six Children’s Songs
• 27:03 Ganachian - The Swallow / Tsitsernak
• 29:06 Komitas - Little Wooden

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
• 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
• 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy

Guests:

• Dr. Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan twitter.com/HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian twitter.com/qubriq

Episode 114 | Recorded: Sunday, January 25, 2022

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022

Topics:

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
• 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
• 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy

Guests:

• Dr. Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan twitter.com/HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian twitter.com/qubriq

Episode 114 | Recorded: Sunday, January 25, 2022

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022

Topics:

• Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
• Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow

Guests:

• Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar

Guest(s):

• Edgar Elbakyan

Hosts:

• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan

Episode 113 | Recorded: Sunday, January 17, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220116.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022

Topics:

• Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
• Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow

Guests:

• Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar

Guest(s):

• Edgar Elbakyan

Hosts:

• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan

Episode 113 | Recorded: Sunday, January 17, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220116.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022

Topics:

• Color Me Kazakhstan
• Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14

Guests:

• Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
• Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan

Episode 112 | Recorded: Sunday, January 9, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220109.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022

Topics:

• Color Me Kazakhstan
• Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14

Guests:

• Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
• Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Benyamin Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan

Episode 112 | Recorded: Sunday, January 9, 2022 Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220109.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021

Topics:

• Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
• Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
• The Yerevan Mayor Saga

Guests:

• Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan

Guest(s):

• Tevan Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 110 | Recorded: Sunday, December 27, 2021

Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211226.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021

Topics:

• Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
• Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
• The Yerevan Mayor Saga

Guests:

• Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan

Guest(s):

• Tevan Poghosyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 110 | Recorded: Sunday, December 27, 2021

Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211226.html

Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations

Guests:

• Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
• Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of Yerevan-based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.

Topics:

• Artsakh Status (@4:54)
• Is the conflict really “solved” (@11:04)
• Opening of Communications (@38:52)
• Corridor for Corridor (@46:32)
• “Unimpeded” Access (@50:15)
• Russia’s regional role (@53:16)
• Turkey’s regional role (@58:48)
• 3+3 or 3+2 Format

Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations

Guests:

• Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
• Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of Yerevan-based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.

Topics:

• Artsakh Status (@4:54)
• Is the conflict really “solved” (@11:04)
• Opening of Communications (@38:52)
• Corridor for Corridor (@46:32)
• “Unimpeded” Access (@50:15)
• Russia’s regional role (@53:16)
• Turkey’s regional role (@58:48)
• 3+3 or 3+2 Format

ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021

Topics:

• Russia-NATO escalation
• Border escalation
• Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
• Protests in Yerevan

Guest: Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 103 | Recorded: Monday, November 22, 2021 Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211121.html

ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021

Topics:

• Russia-NATO escalation
• Border escalation
• Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
• Protests in Yerevan

Guest: Pietro Shakarian

Guest(s):

• Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
• Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq

Episode 103 | Recorded: Monday, November 22, 2021 Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211121.html

Talking with Alison Tahmizian Meuse - TW/@AliTahmizian - November 17, 2021

• Alison Tahmizian Meuse is a graduate of the George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. She is a French and Arabic speaker, and a veteran Middle East journalist, having worked over the past decade as a producer, correspondent and editor for major international publications including Agence France-Presse, NPR, and the Asia Times. She currently serves as a strategic advisor for the New Delhi-based consultancy DeepStrat and is newly based in Yerevan.

Topics:

• The drive to cover dangerous

Talking with Alison Tahmizian Meuse - TW/@AliTahmizian - November 17, 2021

• Alison Tahmizian Meuse is a graduate of the George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. She is a French and Arabic speaker, and a veteran Middle East journalist, having worked over the past decade as a producer, correspondent and editor for major international publications including Agence France-Presse, NPR, and the Asia Times. She currently serves as a strategic advisor for the New Delhi-based consultancy DeepStrat and is newly based in Yerevan.

Topics:

• The drive to cover dangerous

Judicial Reforms, Data Protection and Privacy - 09/05/2020

Conversations on Groong

Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential in foreign direct investment (FDI)? Why do many Armenian startups incorporate in foreign countries, and use Armenia as their offshore labor resource?

Our Guest is David Sandukhchyan is a lawyer with 20 years of experience in telecommunications, cyber law, media and personal data protection. He started his legal career as an Internet freedom advocate and

Judicial Reforms, Data Protection and Privacy - 09/05/2020

Conversations on Groong

Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential in foreign direct investment (FDI)? Why do many Armenian startups incorporate in foreign countries, and use Armenia as their offshore labor resource?

Our Guest is David Sandukhchyan is a lawyer with 20 years of experience in telecommunications, cyber law, media and personal data protection. He started his legal career as an Internet freedom advocate and

ANN/Groong Week in Review - 08/30/2020

Topics:

• Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
• Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
• Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
• National Awards
• Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as Chief Advisor to Pashinyan

Guests:

• Asbed Kotchikian
• Emil Sanamyan
• Alen Zamanyan

Guest(s):

• Asbed Kotchikian
• Emil Sanamyan
• Alen Zamanyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan
• Asbed Bedrossian

Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200830.html Episode 11 | Recorded on August 30 2020

ANN/Groong Week in Review - 08/30/2020

Topics:

• Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
• Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
• Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
• National Awards
• Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as Chief Advisor to Pashinyan

Guests:

• Asbed Kotchikian
• Emil Sanamyan
• Alen Zamanyan

Guest(s):

• Asbed Kotchikian
• Emil Sanamyan
• Alen Zamanyan

Hosts:

• Hovik Manucharyan
• Asbed Bedrossian

Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200830.html Episode 11 | Recorded on August 30 2020