<rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title>Groong Podcast</title><atom:link href="https://podcasts.groong.org/episode/index.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/</link><description/><lastBuildDate>Sat, 4 Apr 2026 11:00:00 -0700</lastBuildDate><sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod><sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency><language>en-us</language><copyright/><itunes:author/><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><googleplay:author/><googleplay:email/><itunes:summary/><googleplay:description/><itunes:owner><itunes:name/><itunes:email/></itunes:owner><itunes:image href=""/><googleplay:image href=""/><image><url/><title>Groong Podcast</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/</link></image><itunes:category text=""/><generator>Hugo -- gohugo.io</generator><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - Iran War, Armenia and Russia, June Parliamentary Elections | Ep 529, Apr 4, 2026
[EP529]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/529-pietro-shakarian-iran-war-trump-armenia-russia-relations-parliamentary-election-2026/</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 11:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18961076-pietro-shakarian-iran-war-armenia-and-russia-june-parliamentary-elections-ep-529-apr-4-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>529</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - Iran War, Armenia and Russia, June Parliamentary Elections | Ep 529, Apr 4, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* The Iran War and Its Global Impacts
* Armenia-Russia Relations
* Parliamentary Elections in Armenia
Episode 529 | Recorded on April 3, 2026
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Episode 529 | Recorded on April 3, 2026
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Episode 529 | Recorded on April 3, 2026
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<p>Dr. Pietro Shakarian joined us to discuss the state of the U.S.-Israel war on Iran, the shrinking chances for a diplomatic off-ramp, and how the conflict is shifting wider Eurasian politics. The conversation then turned to Armenia, including the likely freezing of TRIPP amid the Iran war, Pashinyan’s contentious visit to Moscow, and the deeper low point in Armenia-Russia relations. The final section focused on Armenia’s June parliamentary elections, public sentiment toward Pashinyan, fears over election integrity, and the evolving opposition landscape.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s April 1 address, U.S. escalation, and the lack of a clear off-ramp in the Iran war</li>
<li>Zarif’s proposed peace plan and the question of whether Iran can trust the U.S.</li>
<li>How the war is affecting Iran’s global position, oil markets, Russia, and the Ukraine war</li>
<li>Whether TRIPP, or the so-called Trump Route, has effectively been put on ice by the war</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s Moscow visit, Russian pushback, and the worsening state of Moscow-Yerevan ties</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s messaging on sovereignty, peace, and the symbolic use of the Armenia map pin</li>
<li>Public mood in Armenia ahead of the June parliamentary elections</li>
<li>Concerns over democratic backsliding, jailed opposition figures, and the possibility of election manipulation</li>
<li>The Republican Party’s decision to sit out the elections</li>
<li>Strong Armenia’s decision to run as a bloc with smaller parties</li>
<li>The opposition’s challenge in linking security, economics, and regional strategy into a coherent campaign</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is there still any realistic diplomatic path out of the Iran war?</li>
<li>What exactly was Zarif proposing, and could it still serve as the basis for a settlement?</li>
<li>How has the war changed Iran’s place in the world and Russia’s position in the Ukraine war?</li>
<li>Has the Iran war effectively frozen TRIPP?</li>
<li>What did Pashinyan’s Moscow trip reveal about current Armenia-Russia relations?</li>
<li>Why did Pashinyan wear the large Armenia-map pin only in his meeting with Putin?</li>
<li>Can TRIPP plausibly be sold as a security guarantee for Armenia?</li>
<li>What is the public mood in Armenia ahead of the elections?</li>
<li>Can the June elections be free and fair under current conditions?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan’s standing in Armenian society weakening in a meaningful way?</li>
<li>Why is the Republican Party not running directly?</li>
<li>Why did Strong Armenia choose the higher-risk bloc format?</li>
<li>Should the opposition center security issues more directly, or tie them to socioeconomic decline?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/middle-east/how-iran-should-end-war">How Iran Should End the War: A Deal Iran Could Take</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/economy/overchuk-armenia-is-close-to-the-point-where-russia-will-have-to-restructure-its-economic-relations-/">Overchuk: Armenia is close to the point where Russia will have to restructure its economic relations with it</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.armradio.am/2026/04/02/overchuk-no-grounds-to-sell-south-caucasus-railway-concession-rosatom-ready-to-extend-armenian-npp-operation/">Overchuk: No grounds to sell South Caucasus Railway concession; Rosatom ready to extend Armenian NPP operation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.vestikavkaza.ru/news/Pashinyan-hails-very-successful-Russia-trip.html">Pashinyan hails very successful Russia trip</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/former-armenian-president-sargsyans-republican-party-to-sit-out-elections/">Former Armenian President Sargsyan’s Republican Party to sit out elections</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/332023/">Strong Armenia to form alliance two political forces</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rm.coe.int/europe-press-freedom-report-2026-tipping-point-platform-partners-web/48802ac366">Europe Press Freedom Report 2026: Tipping Point</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP528]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/528-anna-karapetyan-iran-war-armenian-elections-pashinyan-fake-narratives-fear-mongering-silencing-talk-of-artsakh/</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 00:10:36 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18936299-anna-karapetyan-iran-war-pashinyan-fake-narratives-fear-mongering-silencing-talk-of-artsakh-ep-528-mar-29-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>528</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Karapetyan - Iran War, Pashinyan Fake Narratives, Fear-mongering, Silencing Talk of Artsakh | Ep 528, Mar 29, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Iran war escalation and spillover
* Pashinyan’s Fake “peace” narrative
* Elections built on fear-mongering
* Silencing talk of Artsakh
Episode 528 | Recorded: March 30, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Iran war escalation and spillover
* Pashinyan’s Fake “peace” narrative
* Elections built on fear-mongering
* Silencing talk of Artsakh
Episode 528 | Recorded: March 30, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Iran war escalation and spillover
* Pashinyan’s Fake “peace” narrative
* Elections built on fear-mongering
* Silencing talk of Artsakh
Episode 528 | Recorded: March 30, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Our guest Anna Karapetyan focused on the widening Iran war and its possible fallout for Armenia, then turned to the narratives shaping Armenia’s election season. The discussion examined Pashinyan’s claim to have delivered peace, the taboo around speaking about Artsakh and Artsakhtsis’ rights, the uncertainty around the TRIPP corridor project, the political use of fear that an opposition victory would bring war, and the security and environmental questions surrounding a proposed AI data center. In the closing segment, the participants reflected on the broader propaganda environment in Armenia and on Formula 1’s continued partnership with authoritarian states such as Azerbaijan.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The Iran war, ceasefire pressures, and likely short-term outcomes</li>
<li>Armenia’s exposure to economic, refugee, and geopolitical fallout from the Iran war</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s claim that Armenia is now “at peace”</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s continuing pressure, preconditions, and constitutional demands</li>
<li>Whether TRIPP has been deprioritized or delayed by the regional war</li>
<li>The growing taboo on speaking about Artsakh and Artsakhtsis’ rights</li>
<li>The political use of the “opposition will bring war” narrative</li>
<li>Fearmongering around a possible September war if Civil Contract loses</li>
<li>The AI data center as a geopolitical project rather than a security guarantee</li>
<li>Environmental and water-use concerns around the proposed data center</li>
<li>Palm Sunday tensions and the use of church-related provocations in campaign politics</li>
<li>Formula 1’s business ties with authoritarian states, especially Azerbaijan</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Do the United States and Iran actually want peace, or only a pause in this phase of the war?</li>
<li>Is Armenia prepared for economic disruption, refugee inflows, and regional escalation?</li>
<li>Has Pashinyan brought peace, or only a temporary arrangement tied to his own rule?</li>
<li>Why would Azerbaijan sign a peace treaty if it gains more by keeping pressure on Armenia?</li>
<li>Can a country be called “at peace” if citizens are discouraged from speaking about Artsakh?</li>
<li>How is the taboo on Artsakh reshaping party politics and public behavior in Armenia?</li>
<li>Is TRIPP still a real project, or was it more branding than a workable plan?</li>
<li>Why are opposition parties not challenging TRIPP more directly?</li>
<li>Does a foreign-backed AI data center actually make Armenia safer in wartime?</li>
<li>Have Armenian authorities seriously assessed the data center’s water, energy, and environmental costs?</li>
<li>Is the “elect the opposition and there will be war” message credible, or political blackmail?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Hovik</strong> argued that Armenians should reject the narrative that there is already peace and that only Pashinyan can preserve it. He said Pashinyan himself has led Armenia into repeated wars, and that the larger Artsakh conflict never truly ended. He framed real peace as impossible without a dignified settlement that includes Armenians’ rights in their historic homeland.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Anna</strong> said Pashinyan is using even Holy Week and church-related incidents for electoral messaging, including provocations meant to trigger emotional reactions that can later be weaponized in propaganda. She urged people not to respond on his terms and not to feed new narratives during the campaign.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Asbed</strong> used the cancellation of Gulf-region Formula 1 races during the Iran war to criticize F1’s long-running ties to authoritarian states. He argued that Formula 1 has helped whitewash Azerbaijan’s record, including after the 2023 ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, and called on the sport to stop racing in countries with severe human rights abuses.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2026/03/25/765835/iran-rejects-us-proposal-lays-out-five-conditions-ending-imposed-war-source">Iran rejects US proposal, lays out five conditions for ending imposed war</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1245964">Pashinyan says opposition is the “party of war”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.csis.org/analysis/data-now-front-line-warfare">Data Now on the Front Line of Warfare</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/ZIL-GrmvR3A?si=bg9GA7K_pfDVbHfL">Tech Impact Report, data center water use and cooling demands</a></li>
<li><a href="https://datacenters.microsoft.com/sustainability/efficiency/">Microsoft data center sustainability and water efficiency</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP527]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/527-armenian-catholicos-karekin-ii-banned-from-georgian-catholicos-ilia-ii-funeral-iran-war-armenia-parliamentary-elections/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18903001-hovik-asbed-karekin-ii-travel-banned-from-ilia-ii-funeral-iran-war-armenia-parliamentary-election-ep-527-mar-22-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>527</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hovik &amp; Asbed - Karekin II &amp; Ilia II Funeral, Iran War, Armenia Elections | Ep 527, Mar 22, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Georgian Patriarch Ilia II passes away
* Karekin II travel banned from funeral
* Iran war update
* June election in Armenia
Episode 527 | Recorded: March 23, 2026
#Groong #Armenia</itunes:summary><description>
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* Iran war update
* June election in Armenia
Episode 527 | Recorded: March 23, 2026
#Groong #Armenia</description><googleplay:description>
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* Iran war update
* June election in Armenia
Episode 527 | Recorded: March 23, 2026
#Groong #Armenia</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This Week in Review featured Asbed and Hovik without a guest. We discussed the death of Georgian Catholicos-Patriarch Ilia II and the Armenian government’s blocking of Catholicos of all Armenians Karekin II from attending the funeral; the latest turn in the Iran war and what it could mean for Armenia and the wider region; Israel’s renewed ground operation in southern Lebanon; and Armenia’s June elections, including political prisoners, media freedom, Civil Contract’s campaign tactics, the opposition field, EU involvement, and Strong Armenia’s messaging on TRIPP and security.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h3 id="karekin-ii-blocked-from-attending-ilia-ii-funeral">Karekin II Blocked from Attending Ilia II Funeral</h3>
<ul>
<li>Ilia II’s death marked a major event in Georgian religious and public life.</li>
<li>Karekin II was blocked from attending the funeral amid Yerevan’s conflict with the Armenian Church.</li>
<li>Armenia was represented by state officials, while the Church sent bishops from abroad.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="iran-war-update">Iran War Update</h3>
<ul>
<li>Trump threatened strikes on Iran’s civilian energy infrastructure.</li>
<li>Iran warned it could retaliate against regional states backing the U.S.</li>
<li>Trump then announced a five-day pause tied to supposed negotiations.</li>
<li>The hosts said the war still reflects a failed regime-change effort.</li>
<li>They also discussed market pressure and the lack of an easy off-ramp.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="comparing-scott-horton-eldar-mamedov-and-varuzhan-geghamyan">Comparing Scott Horton, Eldar Mamedov, and Varuzhan Geghamyan</h3>
<ul>
<li>All three guests broadly viewed the war as a failed, Israel-driven regime-change project.</li>
<li>All three linked the war to possible pressure on Iran’s northern front.</li>
<li>Eldar stressed Azerbaijan as a real but risky pressure point.</li>
<li>Varuzhan stressed why Turkey and Azerbaijan may avoid direct war with Iran.</li>
<li>Scott focused more on the larger regional architecture behind the war.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="possible-fallout-for-armenia">Possible Fallout for Armenia</h3>
<ul>
<li>The hosts said Armenia faces serious strategic and economic risk from the war.</li>
<li>They criticized the government for downplaying possible spillover.</li>
<li>They raised concerns about refugees, trade shocks, and wider regional destabilization.</li>
<li>They argued Armenia is not visibly preparing for severe scenarios.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="israels-lebanon-operation">Israel’s Lebanon Operation</h3>
<ul>
<li>Israel’s new ground move in southern Lebanon was treated as a possible occupation step.</li>
<li>The hosts argued Israel never truly withdrew after the ceasefire.</li>
<li>They said annexationist rhetoric is now open and explicit.</li>
<li>They noted Lebanon’s humanitarian toll is being overshadowed by Iran coverage.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="political-prisoners-and-media-freedom-in-armenia">Political Prisoners and Media Freedom in Armenia</h3>
<ul>
<li>The hosts discussed a prosecution over a private Facebook message.</li>
<li>They said several opposition and Church-linked figures remain jailed or under house arrest.</li>
<li>They noted Armenia’s poor standing on jailed journalists.</li>
<li>They questioned the credibility of Armenia’s &ldquo;partly free&rdquo; label.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-june-elections">Armenia’s June Elections</h3>
<ul>
<li>Civil Contract, Hayastan Dashinq, and Strong Armenia were treated as the main contenders.</li>
<li>Smaller parties and possible alliances were also discussed.</li>
<li>Robert Kocharyan leads Hayastan Dashinq.</li>
<li>Samvel Karapetyan remains the face of Strong Armenia despite legal restrictions.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="civil-contract-campaign-tactics">Civil Contract Campaign Tactics</h3>
<ul>
<li>The hosts criticized Civil Contract’s bus tour and staged campaign optics.</li>
<li>They focused on Pashinyan’s confrontations with women voters.</li>
<li>One exchange with a woman from Artsakh was treated as especially revealing.</li>
<li>They said Civil Contract is running a fear-based campaign centered on war warnings.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="strong-armenia-mario-nawfal-interview-and-security-messaging">Strong Armenia, Mario Nawfal Interview, and Security Messaging</h3>
<ul>
<li>The hosts discussed Narek Karapetyan’s role in presenting Strong Armenia.</li>
<li>They said the Mario Nawfal interview seemed aimed at an external audience.</li>
<li>Strong Armenia appeared to support TRIPP if security guarantees are added.</li>
<li>The use of retired Israeli General Zvika Haimovich drew sharp criticism.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-hybrid-rapid-response-team">EU Hybrid Rapid Response Team</h3>
<ul>
<li>The hosts treated the EU mission as political interference ahead of the election.</li>
<li>They argued &ldquo;disinformation&rdquo; can be used as a tool against the opposition.</li>
<li>They said the mission weakens trust in a free and fair vote.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why was Karekin II prevented from attending Ilia II’s funeral?</li>
<li>What does that say about the government’s conflict with the Church?</li>
<li>Was Trump’s five-day pause a real diplomatic move or a tactical retreat?</li>
<li>Is Israel trying to end the war with Iran, or widen it?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan or Turkey be drawn into a northern front against Iran?</li>
<li>How exposed is Armenia to economic, refugee, and military spillover?</li>
<li>Is Israel’s Lebanon operation about Hezbollah, or long-term occupation?</li>
<li>What does the private-message prosecution reveal about Armenia’s political climate?</li>
<li>Why are opposition figures and clergy still under arrest during an election season?</li>
<li>Is Civil Contract running on peace, fear, or intimidation?</li>
<li>Who are the real contenders in the June election?</li>
<li>What is Strong Armenia actually promising on TRIPP and security?</li>
<li>Can any outside-backed security guarantee be credible right now?</li>
<li>What does EU anti-disinformation involvement mean for election fairness?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<h4 id="georgia-church-and-karekin-ii">Georgia, Church, and Karekin II</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-catholicos-karekin-iis-presence-at-georgian-patriarch-ilia-iis-funeral-remains-uncertain/">Armenian Catholicos Karekin II’s presence at Georgian Patriarch Ilia II’s funeral remains uncertain</a></li>
</ul>
<h4 id="iran-war">Iran War</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1245208">EU leaders call for moratorium on strikes against Middle East energy and water facilities</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1244998">Minimal Iran fallout expected for Armenia if conflict resolves soon, economy minister says</a></li>
<li><a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/emissary/2026/03/armenia-azerbaijan-iran-war-fallout">Iran’s Northern Neighbors Are Facing Fallout From the War, Too</a></li>
</ul>
<h4 id="armenia-and-possible-spillover">Armenia and Possible Spillover</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mid-day.com/news/india-news/article/jaishankar-thanks-armenia-for-evacuating-550-indian-nationals-from-iran-iaf-strikes-khameneis-plane-23621066">Jaishankar thanks Armenia for evacuating 550 Indian nationals from Iran; IAF strikes Khamenei’s plane</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1244799">India’s foreign minister thanks Armenia for facilitating evacuations of its citizens from Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.etvbharat.com/en/bharat/indian-students-returning-from-iran-hit-roadblock-as-azerbaijan-denies-entry-enn26031705607">Indian students returning from Iran hit roadblock as Azerbaijan denies entry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1244880">No influx of Iranian-Armenians, says Diaspora Commissioner</a></li>
</ul>
<h4 id="lebanon">Lebanon</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpv8xlvk3p4o">BBC report on Israel’s renewed move into southern Lebanon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/israel-invasion-lebanon-fears-litani-river-displaced-beirut-hezbollah-rcna263645">NBC report on fears of invasion, displacement, and escalation in Lebanon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/22/lebanons-aoun-calls-israel-strikes-on-bridges-prelude-to-ground-invasion">Lebanon’s Aoun warns Israeli attack on bridge ‘prelude to ground invasion’</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-minister-calls-annexation-southern-lebanon-2026-03-23/">Israeli minister calls for annexation of southern Lebanon</a></li>
</ul>
<h4 id="political-prisoners-media-and-elections">Political Prisoners, Media, and Elections</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://panarmenian.net/m/eng/news/331678">Mikayel Ajapahyan will remain under house arrest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/-/press-freedom-report-increasingly-hostile-environment-for-journalism">Press freedom report: increasingly hostile environment for journalism</a></li>
</ul>
<h4 id="strong-armenia-and-opposition-campaigning">Strong Armenia and Opposition Campaigning</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/V1SuXTAQVR4">Narek Karapetyan On Armenia&rsquo;s Political Insanity, Iran War, Trump &amp; More&hellip;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenianproject.am/mtqachap2026/">Հայկական մտքաչափ, ձմեռ 2026 թ., sociological survey summary</a></li>
<li><a href="https://massispost.com/2026/03/russian-oligarch-brings-israeli-general-into-political-sphere-of-armenia-says-ruben-rubinyan/">Russian Oligarch Brings Israeli General into Political Sphere of Armenia, Says Ruben Rubinyan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/1w2CZNX8ZIQ?si=1mKx7DD8IJjq2KV2">Brigadier General Zvika Haimovich, IDF, Ret., NCLS 2020</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.am/arm/news/937992.html">Մենք ՔՊ-ի, Քոչարյանի հետ չենք համագործակցելու, սա մեզ համար կարմիր գիծ է. Մարության</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/527/thumbnail-527.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/527/thumbnail-527.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18903001-hovik-asbed-karekin-ii-travel-banned-from-ilia-ii-funeral-iran-war-armenia-parliamentary-election-ep-527-mar-22-2026.mp3" length="31858706" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2652</itunes:duration></item><item><title>YoungMin - Travel Blogger’s Visit to Occupied and Ethnically Cleansed Artsakh | Ep 526, Mar 22, 2026
[EP526]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/526-youngmin-youngminskies-visit-to-artsakh-nagorno-karabakh-in-2026-armenia/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2026 18:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18889493-youngmin-travel-blogger-s-visit-to-occupied-and-ethnically-cleansed-artsakh-ep-526-mar-22-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>526</itunes:episode><itunes:title>YoungMin - Travel Blogger’s Visit to Occupied and Ethnically Cleansed Artsakh | Ep 526, Mar 22, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - March 22, 2026
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [YoungMin](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/youngmin)
- YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies](https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies)
- Instagram: [https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies](https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies)
#### Topics:
* YoungMin’s journey into post-2023 Artsakh
* Controlled access, guided narratives
* Erasing Traces of Armenians
* In Agdam, Askeran, and Stepanakert
* Memory, loss, and the aftermath of Ethnic Cleansing
Episode 526 | Recorded: March 21, 2026
#Artsakh #Armenia #YoungMin #NagornoKarabakh #EthnicCleansing</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [YoungMin](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/youngmin)
- YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies](https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies)
- Instagram: [https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies](https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies)
#### Topics:
* YoungMin’s journey into post-2023 Artsakh
* Controlled access, guided narratives
* Erasing Traces of Armenians
* In Agdam, Askeran, and Stepanakert
* Memory, loss, and the aftermath of Ethnic Cleansing
Episode 526 | Recorded: March 21, 2026
#Artsakh #Armenia #YoungMin #NagornoKarabakh #EthnicCleansing</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [YoungMin](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/youngmin)
- YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies](https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies)
- Instagram: [https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies](https://www.instagram.com/YoungMinSkies)
#### Topics:
* YoungMin’s journey into post-2023 Artsakh
* Controlled access, guided narratives
* Erasing Traces of Armenians
* In Agdam, Askeran, and Stepanakert
* Memory, loss, and the aftermath of Ethnic Cleansing
Episode 526 | Recorded: March 21, 2026
#Artsakh #Armenia #YoungMin #NagornoKarabakh #EthnicCleansing</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>YoungMin joins Groong to discuss his visit to Artsakh after the 2023 ethnic cleansing of its Armenian population. The conversation focuses on why he chose to go, the permit and tour system that now governs access, the controlled and selective nature of what foreign visitors are allowed to see, and the emotional impact of witnessing emptied towns, redevelopment, and cultural erasure. YoungMin also reflects on how his own Korean background shaped his response to Artsakh, and offers closing thoughts on memory, recovery, and Armenia’s future.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why YoungMin chose to visit Artsakh, and how his broader interest in hard-to-reach places and conflict zones led him there</li>
<li>The practical difficulties of entering the region, including the failed permit process and the need to join a last-minute Azerbaijani group tour</li>
<li>His impressions of Baku, including major tourist scams that shaped his view of the country</li>
<li>The long road journey from Baku through checkpoints, Agdam, Askeran, and into Stepanakert</li>
<li>The scale of redevelopment and “smart city” construction in and around Agdam</li>
<li>The permit system, landmine restrictions, and how movement is tightly managed by region</li>
<li>The contrast between the other tourists’ curiosity and YoungMin’s sense of grief and moral weight</li>
<li>Stepanakert as a largely empty city, with many buildings still uninhabited and a strong sense of silence and loss</li>
<li>How the tour route appeared designed to avoid Armenian religious and cultural landmarks</li>
<li>The remodeling or destruction of Armenian-linked sites, including the university area and the degraded state of the We Are Our Mountains monument</li>
<li>The heavy bias of the tour and the sense that visitors were being steered away from the Armenian history of the region</li>
<li>The state-led “Great Return” program, who appears to be moving in, and why the region still felt like a ghost town</li>
<li>Comparisons with Mosul and other conflict zones YoungMin has visited</li>
<li>YoungMin’s reflections as a Korean traveler carrying his own people’s history of division, trauma, and loss</li>
<li>His closing message about remembering the past while building a stronger future</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What drew YoungMin to Artsakh, and why did he feel it was important to go?</li>
<li>How difficult was it to obtain access, and what does that say about the current system of control?</li>
<li>What was the route into Artsakh like, and how present were checkpoints, permits, and landmine restrictions?</li>
<li>What did he actually see in Agdam, Askeran, and Stepanakert?</li>
<li>How much freedom did he have to move around, speak to locals, or choose what to visit?</li>
<li>Which Armenian landmarks or sites seemed intentionally avoided or obscured?</li>
<li>At what point did the trip stop feeling like extreme travel and start feeling like entry into the aftermath of ethnic cleansing?</li>
<li>What did the condition of Stepanakert suggest about repopulation, redevelopment, and the so-called Great Return?</li>
<li>How did his own Korean background shape the way he understood Armenian loss and displacement?</li>
<li>What hope, if any, does he see for Armenia after such a traumatic rupture?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jE8qRIz60"><strong>Visiting Artsakh in 2026: The Country That Vanished Overnight</strong></a> — YoungMin Skies</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@YoungMinSkies"><strong>YoungMin Skies YouTube Channel</strong></a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/groong">Patreon - Support Groong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/526/thumbnail-526.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/526/thumbnail-526.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18889493-youngmin-travel-blogger-s-visit-to-occupied-and-ethnically-cleansed-artsakh-ep-526-mar-22-2026.mp3" length="34530207" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2875</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Eldar Mamedov - Iran War: The Northern Front | Ep 525, Mar 22, 2026
[EP525]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/525-eldar-mamedov-iran-war-azerbaijan-israel-nakhichevan-south-azerbaijan-turkey/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2026 11:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18885600-eldar-mamedov-iran-war-the-northern-front-ep-525-mar-22-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>525</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Eldar Mamedov - Iran War: The Northern Front | Ep 525, Mar 22, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - March 22, 2026
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Eldar Mamedov](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/emamedov)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhijevan’s Constitution
Episode 525 | Recorded: March 20, 2026
#GroongPodcast #EldarMamedov #IranWar #Azerbaijan #SouthCaucasus</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Eldar Mamedov](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/emamedov)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhijevan’s Constitution
Episode 525 | Recorded: March 20, 2026
#GroongPodcast #EldarMamedov #IranWar #Azerbaijan #SouthCaucasus</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [Eldar Mamedov](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/emamedov)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhijevan’s Constitution
Episode 525 | Recorded: March 20, 2026
#GroongPodcast #EldarMamedov #IranWar #Azerbaijan #SouthCaucasus</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We speak with Eldar Mamedov about the widening regional dimensions of the Iran war, with a focus on Azerbaijan’s role, the risk of a northern front, and the strategic interests of Israel, Turkey, and the United States. We examine whether there are any realistic offramps to end the war, how tensions between Iran and Azerbaijan have evolved after the Nakhijevan flareup, what Azerbaijan’s ties with Israel may mean in practice, and how recent constitutional changes in Nakhijevan may reflect deeper geopolitical shifts.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The search for realistic offramps in the Iran war, and the conditions under which the main parties might consider negotiations.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s officially neutral posture toward Iran, and the recurring moments when tensions break into the open.</li>
<li>Eldar Mamedov’s argument that Azerbaijan is unlikely to directly join the war against Iran, despite inflammatory rhetoric and periodic escalation.</li>
<li>The March 5 drone strike on Nakhijevan International Airport, Iran’s false flag claim, and the broader significance of the episode.</li>
<li>The role of ethnic Azerbaijani rhetoric in Iran, and whether it reflects pressure tactics, domestic messaging, or a deeper strategic shift.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s close relationship with Israel, including military cooperation, oil supplies, and possible indirect involvement in the war.</li>
<li>Whether Azerbaijan serves Israel as a logistical asset, intelligence platform, or potential northern front against Iran.</li>
<li>Reports of an Israeli Air Force strike on Iranian naval sites on the Caspian Sea, and speculation over possible launch routes.</li>
<li>Divergences and overlaps between Turkish and Azerbaijani interests in the context of the Iran war.</li>
<li>Recent constitutional amendments that reduce Nakhijevan’s autonomy and remove references to the treaties of Moscow and Kars.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Under what conditions might the sides accept negotiations rather than continue the war?</li>
<li>What are the incentives and goals driving each side in the conflict?</li>
<li>Is the current situation between Azerbaijan and Iran under control?</li>
<li>What explains Aliyev’s aggressive escalation and subsequent de-escalation?</li>
<li>What evidence suggests that Baku will stop short of direct military engagement?</li>
<li>How should Aliyev’s language about Azerbaijanis in Iran be understood?</li>
<li>Does Israel view Azerbaijan as a logistical asset, an intelligence platform, or a potential northern front?</li>
<li>How much influence do Washington’s neoconservative circles have on Azerbaijan’s posture toward Iran?</li>
<li>If Azerbaijan does not formally join the war, what forms of indirect involvement or escalation are most plausible?</li>
<li>How have Iranian and Azerbaijani media portrayed the reported Caspian Sea attack?</li>
<li>Where do Baku and Ankara’s interests diverge, and do they view the Iran war through the same lens?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijan’s hosting of US and Israeli presence in Nakhijevan and occupied Artsakh a concern for Turkey?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan play a role in any future dismemberment of Iran, and under what circumstances?</li>
<li>What is the significance of Nakhijevan’s reduced autonomy and the removal of references to the Moscow and Kars treaties?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/will-azerbaijan-join-the-war-against-iran/">Will Azerbaijan Join the War Against Iran?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-890567">Israeli Air Force attacked Iranian Navy sites on the Caspian Sea, Jerusalem Post report</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/nakhchivan-loses-autonomy-in-new-constitutional-amendments/">Nakhchivan loses autonomy in new constitutional amendments</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
<ul>
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<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/525/thumbnail-525.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/525/thumbnail-525.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18885600-eldar-mamedov-iran-war-the-northern-front-ep-525-mar-22-2026.mp3" length="34043021" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2834</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Varuzhan Geghamyan - Iran War, Zangezur Corridor, Nakhijevan Constitution | Ep 524, Mar 20, 2026
[EP524]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/524-varuzhan-geghamyan-iran-war-zangezur-corridor-syunik-nakhijevan/</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 23:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18883115-varuzhan-geghamyan-iran-war-zangezur-corridor-nakhijevan-constitution-ep-524-mar-20-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>524</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Varuzhan Geghamyan - Iran War, Zangezur Corridor, Nakhijevan Constitution | Ep 524, Mar 20, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - March 20, 2026
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhichevan’s Constitution
Episode 524 | Recorded: March 19, 2026
#IranWar #VaruzhanGeghamyan #ZangezurCorridor #Syunik #ArmeniaGeopolitics</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhichevan’s Constitution
Episode 524 | Recorded: March 19, 2026
#IranWar #VaruzhanGeghamyan #ZangezurCorridor #Syunik #ArmeniaGeopolitics</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Iran at War
* The Northern Front: Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Changing Nakhichevan’s Constitution
Episode 524 | Recorded: March 19, 2026
#IranWar #VaruzhanGeghamyan #ZangezurCorridor #Syunik #ArmeniaGeopolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We examine the ongoing US-Israeli war on Iran through a regional lens, focusing on the war’s broader strategic aims, Azerbaijan’s possible role as a northern pressure point against Iran, Turkey’s ambiguous posture, and Armenia’s growing vulnerability in the middle of these shifts. Prof.Geghamyan also looks at the geopolitical meaning of the TRIPP or “Zangezur Corridor” project, the recent centralization of control over Nakhijevan, and Geghamyan’s new book “The Armenian Wedge in the Path of Turan: The Issue of the “Zangezur Corridor,” on the historical roots and present danger of the corridor agenda.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The current state of the US-Israeli war on Iran, and the question of whether military escalation has strengthened rather than weakened Iran.</li>
<li>Whether Washington and Tel Aviv are pursuing the same war aims, or whether their objectives diverge at the strategic level.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s deep military and energy relationship with Israel, and its potential role in opening or supporting a northern front against Iran.</li>
<li>The political and military meaning of the March 5 incident at Nakhichevan International Airport, and why tensions rose and then quickly subsided.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s constitutional amendments reducing Nakhijevan’s autonomy, and the significance of removing references to the Moscow and Kars treaties.</li>
<li>Tensions and contradictions within the Turkey-Azerbaijan relationship, especially over Israel, Iran, and pan-Turkic ambitions.</li>
<li>Turkey’s double game, anti-Israel rhetoric in public, continued strategic cooperation in practice, and possible long-term aims regarding Iran.</li>
<li>Armenia’s exposure to regional pressure through the TRIPP or “Zangezur Corridor” framework, and whether current policy leaves the country more secure or more vulnerable.</li>
<li>Varuzhan Geghamyan’s new book, <em>The Armenian Wedge in the Path of Turan: The Issue of the “Zangezur Corridor”</em>, and its argument that the corridor is part of a much older Turkish-Azerbaijani geopolitical project.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why are we in this war, and what larger strategic logic is driving it?</li>
<li>Are the US and Israel pursuing the same outcome in Iran?</li>
<li>What should we make of Azerbaijan’s behavior during the war, especially around the Nakhijevan airport incident?</li>
<li>Did that incident represent a real attack, a warning, or a false flag meant to trigger a new front?</li>
<li>Has Aliyev already made Azerbaijan a functional combatant, or at least a target, in Tehran’s eyes?</li>
<li>What is the significance of Azerbaijan stripping Nakhijevan of key elements of its autonomous status?</li>
<li>Why were references to the Moscow and Kars treaties removed now?</li>
<li>Do Turkey and Azerbaijan view the Iran war the same way, or do their interests diverge?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijan’s Israeli and American alignment a concern for Turkey, or part of a broader shared strategy?</li>
<li>What are Turkey’s real plans regarding Iran, behind its peace rhetoric?</li>
<li>Could the TRIPP route become a military or logistics corridor in the context of war with Iran?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s current “diversification” policy a smart balancing act, or is it weakening the country’s remaining deterrents?</li>
<li>What is the central argument of Varuzhan’s new book, and how has it been received?</li>
<li>Will the book be translated into English?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://newsroom.aua.am/2025/12/08/maird-hosts-book-presentation-zangezur-corridor/">MAIRD Hosts Book Presentation of “The Armenian Wedge in the Path of Turan: The Issue of the Zangezur Corridor”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tert.am/en/news/2026/03/07/Varuzhan%20Geghamyan/4262892">Varuzhan Geghamyan on the Anti-Azerbaijani Wave in Turkish Media</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/nakhchivan-loses-autonomy-in-new-constitutional-amendments/">Nakhchivan Loses Autonomy in New Constitutional Amendments</a></li>
<li>How to get Prof. Geghamyan&rsquo;s books:
<ul>
<li>In Armenian: <a href="https://www.books.am/am/catalog/product/view/id/114195">Թուրանի ճանապարհի Հայկական սեպը․ Զանգեզուրի միջանցքի հիմնահարցը</a></li>
<li>In English: <a href="https://www.books.am/en/catalog/product/view/id/118647/">The Armenian wedge on the Turan road: The issue of the Zangezur Corridor</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/524/thumbnail-524.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/524/thumbnail-524.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18883115-varuzhan-geghamyan-iran-war-zangezur-corridor-nakhijevan-constitution-ep-524-mar-20-2026.mp3" length="48186236" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4012</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Scott Horton - Why Are We at War with Iran? | Ep 523, Mar 20, 2026
[EP523]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/523-scott-horton-why-are-we-at-war-with-iran-us-domestic-implications-escalation-scenarios/</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18878693-scott-horton-why-are-we-at-war-with-iran-ep-523-mar-20-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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Episode 523 | Recorded: March 19, 2026
#IranWar #ScottHorton #USIsrael #MiddleEastWar #Geopolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Horton joins us to examine the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran, asking how this war began, what strategic goals are driving it, and where it could lead next. We discuss the limits of air power, the risk of a wider or ground war, the longer arc of U.S. and Israeli policy toward Iran and Syria, Turkey’s role in the region, and the domestic political consequences inside the United States as Trump presses ahead without broad public or congressional support.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<h3 id="why-are-we-in-this-war">Why Are We in This War?</h3>
<ul>
<li>The current state of the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran after 20 days of airstrikes</li>
<li>Whether air power alone can achieve Washington’s and Israel’s goals</li>
<li>The possibility that the war could expand into a ground invasion or long quagmire</li>
<li>Whether the U.S. and Israel are pursuing the same objectives</li>
<li>Whether this war makes the United States safer</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-predicates-for-this-war">The Predicates for This War</h3>
<ul>
<li>How the public case for war conflicts with the longer record of U.S. policy</li>
<li>The relevance of the 1996 <em>Clean Break</em> framework to current events</li>
<li>The destruction of Syria as a precursor to the current war on Iran</li>
<li>Turkey’s role in the campaign against Syria and its broader regional posture</li>
<li>The contradiction between Turkey’s diplomatic rhetoric and its practical alignment with Israeli operations</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="us-domestic-implications">U.S. Domestic Implications</h3>
<ul>
<li>The limits of a “clean” air war and the search for proxy or ground forces</li>
<li>Failed efforts to build broader international support to reopen the Strait of Hormuz</li>
<li>Signs that a ground invasion option may still be under consideration</li>
<li>The domestic political cost of entering war without preparing the public or Congress</li>
<li>Joe Kent’s resignation and what it may reveal about fractures inside Trump’s coalition</li>
<li>Whether MAGA supports the war, and what the conflict could mean for Republican prospects in a midterm year</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Why are we in this war?</li>
<li>Are the U.S. and Israel pursuing the same goals?</li>
<li>Is Washington using this war for broader global aims beyond Iran?</li>
<li>What are Israel’s actual war aims?</li>
<li>Does U.S. aggression against Iran make America safer?</li>
<li>Would the war on Iran be possible without the destruction of Syria?</li>
<li>How important was Turkey’s role in the campaign to dismember Syria?</li>
<li>Are Turkey and Israel really competitors, or are they aligned more often than admitted?</li>
<li>Could the U.S. actually launch a ground invasion of Iran?</li>
<li>What would a deeper war mean inside the United States politically and socially?</li>
<li>What are the implications of Joe Kent’s resignation?</li>
<li>Does MAGA support this war?</li>
<li>What does this war mean for Trump and Republican electoral prospects?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-links">Referenced Links</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf">A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/read-trumps-full-statement-on-iran-attack">Trump’s statement on the Iran attack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/schwarz/status/2030027551758831859">Jon Schwarz tweet on Netanyahu memoir</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/523/thumbnail-523.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/523/thumbnail-523.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18878693-scott-horton-why-are-we-at-war-with-iran-ep-523-mar-20-2026.mp3" length="38978415" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3245</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Martirosyan - Iran War, Effect on Armenia, June Parliamentary | Ep 522, Mar 15, 2026
[EP522]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/522-arthur-martirosyan-iran-war-effect-on-armenia-parliamentary-election-2026/</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18863164-arthur-martirosyan-iran-war-effect-on-armenia-june-parliamentary-ep-522-mar-15-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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Episode 522 | Recorded: March 16, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Arthur Martirosyan examines the ongoing U.S.–Israel war on Iran and its uncertain trajectory, focusing on escalation risks, strategic objectives, and potential diplomatic offramps. The discussion then turns to regional spillover effects, particularly the risks for Armenia amid Iran–Azerbaijan tensions and broader geopolitical shifts. We conclude with an analysis of Armenia’s upcoming parliamentary elections, including the fragmented opposition landscape, concerns about electoral fairness, and contradictions in public opinion reflected in recent polling.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h3 id="iran-war-objectives-escalation-and-offramps">Iran War: Objectives, Escalation, and Offramps</h3>
<ul>
<li>The conflict remains unresolved after more than two weeks, with both sides signaling continued escalation rather than compromise</li>
<li>Limited clarity on U.S. and Israeli end goals and whether their strategies are fully aligned</li>
<li>Discussion of realistic diplomatic offramps versus continued military pressure</li>
<li>Escalation risks across multiple domains, including regional expansion and disruption of global energy flows</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="regional-spillover-and-risks-for-armenia">Regional Spillover and Risks for Armenia</h3>
<ul>
<li>Iran–Azerbaijan tensions raise the possibility of a broader regional conflict</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s potential role as a northern pressure point against Iran</li>
<li>Turkey’s possible involvement and implications for escalation</li>
<li>Short-, medium-, and long-term risks facing Armenia under different conflict scenarios</li>
<li>Strategic implications for regional connectivity projects, including TRIPP</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-parliamentary-elections">Armenia’s Parliamentary Elections</h3>
<ul>
<li>Fragmented political landscape with multiple opposition blocs and unclear alignments</li>
<li>Civil Contract maintaining structural advantages heading into elections</li>
<li>Questions around whether opposition forces can consolidate effectively</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="electoral-integrity-and-political-climate">Electoral Integrity and Political Climate</h3>
<ul>
<li>Concerns over fairness due to pressure on opposition figures and uneven institutional conditions</li>
<li>Role of turnout and public dissatisfaction in shaping electoral outcomes</li>
<li>Debate over whether elections can be considered genuinely competitive</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="public-opinion-and-political-contradictions">Public Opinion and Political Contradictions</h3>
<ul>
<li>Disconnect between government policy shifts and public sentiment</li>
<li>Continued public support for Russia despite official reorientation toward the West</li>
<li>High trust in the Armenian Church despite government pressure</li>
<li>Civil Contract retaining leading support despite these contradictions</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Is there a viable diplomatic offramp in the Iran war?</li>
<li>How far could escalation spread regionally?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan or Turkey become directly involved?</li>
<li>What are the concrete risks for Armenia under different scenarios?</li>
<li>Can the Armenian opposition mount an effective challenge?</li>
<li>Are upcoming elections likely to be free and fair?</li>
<li>How should contradictory polling data be interpreted?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Arthur</strong> pointed to Hungary’s upcoming elections as a test case for how external pressure from Brussels may shape outcomes in nominally democratic systems, with possible implications for Armenia.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Hovik</strong> argued that the controversy around the Genocide Institute reflects a deeper issue of passivity within Armenian academic circles over recent years, particularly regarding Artsakh.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Asbed</strong> highlighted rising costs in the U.S. tied to the Iran war, suggesting that if regime change is the goal of the war, it may instead backfire politically inside the U.S., culminating in Trumpists&rsquo; removal from power in 2028.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/iranian-official-calls-ukraine-legitimate-target-for-israeli-drone-help-11678305">Iranian official calls Ukraine legitimate target for Israeli drone help</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/522/thumbnail-522.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/522/thumbnail-522.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18863164-arthur-martirosyan-iran-war-effect-on-armenia-june-parliamentary-ep-522-mar-15-2026.mp3" length="37054080" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3085</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Iran War, IRI Poll Review, Armenian Political Landscape for 2026 Election | Ep 521, Mar 8, 2026
[EP521]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/521-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-iri-poll-survey-armenian-political-landscape-for-2026-parliamentary-election/</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18828570-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-update-iri-poll-review-armenian-political-landscape-ep-521-mar-8-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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* Political Landscape
Episode 521 | Recorded: March 10, 2026
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Episode 521 | Recorded: March 10, 2026
#IranWar #EpicFury #MiddleEastWar #ArmeniaForeignPolicy #Sumgait1988 #IranIsraelConflict</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We discuss with Hrant Mikaelian the expanding war on Iran and what it could mean for the region. We took a close look at the latest IRI poll and its disputed methodology and findings, and the emerging shape of Armenia’s parliamentary race. Hrant Mikaelian argued that Iran’s leadership transition signals greater resolve rather than collapse, that Azerbaijan is still constrained from direct action against Iran unless the Iranian state seriously weakens, and that the IRI poll raises major methodological and interpretive questions. The discussion then turned to the opposition field in Armenia, where newer forces may have room to grow, but where media imbalance and weak opposition reach remain major structural obstacles.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h2 id="iran-war-update">Iran war update</h2>
<ul>
<li>The panel discussed the 11th day of the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran, including attacks on Iranian oil infrastructure near Tehran and the broader economic and geopolitical fallout.</li>
<li>Hrant argued that the selection of Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei signaled continuity and escalation rather than regime collapse, and reflected the growing weight of Iran’s security apparatus.</li>
<li>The conversation examined whether the war was likely to move toward diplomacy, what an American off-ramp might look like, and what Iran could plausibly count as a strategic victory.</li>
<li>They also discussed how the war could affect the TRIPP and Armenia’s regional position.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-iran-tensions-during-the-war">Azerbaijan-Iran tensions during the war</h2>
<ul>
<li>The hosts reviewed the rapid escalation after Azerbaijan accused Iran of a drone strike, followed by threats, mobilization, and then a quick de-escalation after the Aliyev-Pezeshkian call.</li>
<li>Hrant described Azerbaijan’s behavior as opportunistic but constrained, arguing that Baku is unlikely to enter the war directly unless Iran faces state collapse or severe disintegration.</li>
<li>The conversation also explored the apparent difference between the posture of Iran’s presidency and that of the IRGC on Azerbaijan, Israel, and the regional balance.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iri-poll-review">IRI poll review</h2>
<ul>
<li>The show examined the latest IRI poll, focusing first on the polling window, sample size, reported margin of error, and especially the unusually high 22% response rate.</li>
<li>The hosts and Hrant questioned whether the timing of the poll, during JD Vance’s visit to Armenia, may have affected responses.</li>
<li>They also discussed Pashinyan’s meetings with IRI president Dan Twining, and whether the government appeared to have advance familiarity with the poll’s results.</li>
<li>The discussion then moved through the poll’s substantive findings, including:
<ul>
<li>the sharp rise in respondents saying Armenia is moving in the right direction</li>
<li>the surprisingly lower salience of national security compared with other recent polling</li>
<li>household economic responses that seemed internally inconsistent, especially the rise in reported poverty</li>
<li>institutional trust, where the Armenian Apostolic Church continued to rate strongly</li>
<li>anomalies around recalled turnout in the 2021 election</li>
<li>party preference numbers, especially the gap between the IRI and Empirica findings on Civil Contract and Strong Armenia</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="slide-2-detailed-methodology">Slide 2: Detailed Methodology</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-02.webp" alt="IRI Slide 2"  title="Slide 2: Detailed Methodology" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-6-generally-speaking-do-you-think-that-armenia-is-heading-in-the-right-direction-or-the-wrong-direction">Slide 6: Generally speaking, do you think that Armenia is heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-06.webp" alt="IRI Slide 6"  title="Slide 6: Right or wrong direction?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-8-what-are-the-main-problems-armenia-is-currently-facing">Slide 8: What are the main problems Armenia is currently facing?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-08.webp" alt="IRI Slide 8"  title="Slide 8: What are the main problems Armenia is currently facing?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-14-household-problems-time-series">Slide 14: Household: Problems, Time Series</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-14.webp" alt="IRI Slide 14"  title="Slide 14: Household: Problems, Time Series" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-18-satisfaction-with-institutions">Slide 18: Satisfaction with Institutions</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-18.webp" alt="IRI Slide 18"  title="Slide 18: Satisfaction with Institutions" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-24-institutions-church">Slide 24: Institutions: Church</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-24.webp" alt="IRI Slide 24"  title="Slide 24: Institutions: Church" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-26-institutions-church-vs-church-leadership">Slide 26: Institutions: Church vs. Church Leadership</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-26.webp" alt="IRI Slide 26"  title="Slide 26: Institutions: Church vs. Church Leadership" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-30-did-you-vote-in-june-2021">Slide 30: Did you vote in June, 2021</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-30.webp" alt="IRI Slide 30"  title="Slide 30: Did you vote in June, 2021" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-31-which-party-did-you-vote-for-in-2021">Slide 31: Which party did you vote for in 2021?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-31.webp" alt="IRI Slide 31"  title="Slide 31: Which party did you vote for in 2021?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-34-which-party-did-you-vote-for-if-elections-were-to-be-held-next-sunday">Slide 34: Which party did you vote for if elections were to be held next Sunday]</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/521/poll/iri-34.webp" alt="IRI Slide 34"  title="Slide 34: Which party did you vote for if elections were to be held next Sunday" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="armenias-political-landscape-before-the-elections">Armenia’s political landscape before the elections</h2>
<ul>
<li>The final part of the show surveyed the opposition field ahead of the parliamentary elections.</li>
<li>Hrant framed the race as different from prior elections because it is no longer only a referendum on the current government versus former governments.</li>
<li>He discussed the roles, prospects, and voter bases of:
<ul>
<li>Hayastan / Kocharyan</li>
<li>Samvel Karapetyan’s Strong Armenia</li>
<li>Arman Tatoyan and Avetik Chalabyan</li>
<li>smaller pro-government or spoiler-type formations</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>A key thread in this section was that newer opposition actors may benefit from not being associated either with Pashinyan’s failures or with the older ruling elite.</li>
<li>The episode closed with a discussion of why the opposition still struggles to convert dissatisfaction into support, with Hrant pointing to media imbalance, weak national reach, and a strongly pro-government broadcast landscape.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What signal did Iran send by elevating Mojtaba Khamenei after the assassination of Ali Khamenei?</li>
<li>Is Iran showing signs of military exhaustion, or does it still retain escalation capacity?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan be pulled into the war against Iran, or is Baku still deterred by the risks?</li>
<li>Why did the Azerbaijan-Iran confrontation escalate so quickly, then cool just as fast?</li>
<li>How credible is the IRI poll’s reported 22% response rate?</li>
<li>Did the timing of the poll, during JD Vance’s Armenia visit, shape the findings?</li>
<li>Why do the IRI poll’s direction-of-country numbers differ so sharply from other recent polls?</li>
<li>How can poverty rise while some other household indicators appear to improve?</li>
<li>What do the poll’s church and institutional trust findings suggest about the coming elections?</li>
<li>How can 68% of respondents say they voted in 2021 when official turnout was 49.3%?</li>
<li>Why does the IRI party-preference slide differ so much from the Empirica numbers?</li>
<li>Which opposition forces have real growth potential, and what is blocking them from reaching undecided voters?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.iri.org/resources/public-opinion-survey-residents-of-armenia-february-2026/">IRI: Public Opinion Survey: Residents of Armenia | February 2026</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-masoud-pezeshkian-apologize-bomb-neighbor-israel-us-war/">Pezeshkian Apology Report, Politico Europe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/iraninyerevan/status/2030581517181718624">Iran-Azerbaijan Incident, Iran in Yerevan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/ultra_ehsan/status/2030748312962474425">Aliyev-Pezeshkian Call and Aid Announcement, Ultra Ehsan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/521">Previous MPG Poll Discussion, Groong Ep. 521</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/hy/press-release/item/2025/02/06/Nikol-Pashinyan-meeting-Daniel-Tvining/">Pashinyan Meeting with IRI President Dan Twining</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vanderbilt.edu/lapop/insights/IMN009en.pdf">Survey Response Rates Report, LAPOP / Vanderbilt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/521">Episode 521</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/521/thumbnail-521.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/521/thumbnail-521.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18828570-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-update-iri-poll-review-armenian-political-landscape-ep-521-mar-8-2026.mp3" length="55503895" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4622</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Iran War, Effect on Armenia, Sumgait Pogroms | Ep 520, Mar 1, 2026
[EP520]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/520-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-usa-israel-armenia-turkey-azerbaijan-russia-china-sumgait-pogroms/</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18786762-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-effect-on-armenia-sumgait-pogroms-ep-520-mar-1-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>520</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Iran War, Effect on Armenia, Sumgait Pogroms | Ep 520, Mar 1, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - March 1, 2026
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* US and Israel launch war against Iran
* Decapitation strikes, mass civilian casualties
* Iran retaliates region-wide, war expands
* Armenia leadership silent
* Sumgait remembered
Episode 520 | Recorded: March 3, 2026
#IranWar #EpicFury #MiddleEastWar #ArmeniaForeignPolicy #Sumgait1988 #IranIsraelConflict</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* US and Israel launch war against Iran
* Decapitation strikes, mass civilian casualties
* Iran retaliates region-wide, war expands
* Armenia leadership silent
* Sumgait remembered
Episode 520 | Recorded: March 3, 2026
#IranWar #EpicFury #MiddleEastWar #ArmeniaForeignPolicy #Sumgait1988 #IranIsraelConflict</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* US and Israel launch war against Iran
* Decapitation strikes, mass civilian casualties
* Iran retaliates region-wide, war expands
* Armenia leadership silent
* Sumgait remembered
Episode 520 | Recorded: March 3, 2026
#IranWar #EpicFury #MiddleEastWar #ArmeniaForeignPolicy #Sumgait1988 #IranIsraelConflict</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>On this Week in Review, we discuss with Hrant Mikaelian the U.S. and Israeli war on Iran, how it began, what the first days suggest about objectives, and how Iran has responded across the region. We also explore what an Iranian weakening or collapse could mean for Armenia, including how Turkey and Azerbaijan might behave if Iran becomes distracted or destabilized. We close with the commemoration of the Sumgait pogroms in 1988, and what Hrant describes as the through-line from Sumgait to later anti-Armenian violence.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Iran war, early phase</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The claim that talks were close to a deal, yet war began anyway</li>
<li>“Decapitation” framing, and how goals shifted in public messaging</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Civilian toll and escalation dynamics</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Reports of strikes on civilian sites, including a girls’ school</li>
<li>How the first days shape escalation risk and the chance of a wider war</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Iran’s retaliation and regional spillover</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Strikes on U.S. positions in the Gulf region</li>
<li>Iranian targeting of Israel, and the widening set of involved states</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>What this means for Armenia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s limited public messaging and practical constraints</li>
<li>How Turkey and Azerbaijan could react if Iran weakens</li>
<li>Why Iran’s role matters for Armenia’s security calculus</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Sumgait commemoration and present-day implications</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>February 27 to March 1 remembrance, competing death toll figures</li>
<li>The accountability gap, and parallels drawn to later events</li>
<li>Section 907 as a current political pressure point</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>If diplomacy was “within reach,” why did war start anyway?</li>
<li>Is the real goal regime change, deterrence, or force protection?</li>
<li>How does Iran choose targets, and what counts as escalation control?</li>
<li>What do Russia and China do, and what do they avoid doing?</li>
<li>What is Armenia’s risk if Iran weakens, and what should Yerevan do?</li>
<li>Why does Sumgait still matter for Armenian security thinking today?</li>
<li>What is at stake with attempts to remove or dilute Section 907?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iran-deal-within-our-reach-oman-mediator-says/">Oman mediator says US-Iran deal was &ldquo;within our reach&rdquo;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/296847271805841">Post cited on decapitation strike details</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/2/28/israel-strikes-two-schools-in-iran-killing-more-than-50-people">Report cited on strikes on schools in Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/2027814549106163898">Social post cited on school strike and casualties</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/520/thumbnail-520.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/520/thumbnail-520.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18786762-hrant-mikaelian-iran-war-effect-on-armenia-sumgait-pogroms-ep-520-mar-1-2026.mp3" length="35592554" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2963</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Iran War Fears, June Vote Rules, State-Church Clash | Ep 519, Feb 22, 2026
[EP519]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/519-dziunik-aghajanian-iran-war-fears-us-iran-talks-israel-pressure-june-7-elections-civil-contract-media-ban-charity-restrictions-eu-rapid-response-armenian-church-karekin-ii-tripp/</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 18:30:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18758537-dziunik-aghajanian-iran-war-fears-june-vote-rules-state-church-clash-ep-519-feb-22-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>519</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Iran War Fears, June Vote Rules, State-Church Clash | Ep 519, Feb 22, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - February 22, 2026
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran War Fears
* June Parliamentary Elections
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 519 | Recorded: February 25, 2026
#Armenia #Iran #ArmeniaElections #ArmenianChurch #SouthCaucasus</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran War Fears
* June Parliamentary Elections
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 519 | Recorded: February 25, 2026
#Armenia #Iran #ArmeniaElections #ArmenianChurch #SouthCaucasus</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran War Fears
* June Parliamentary Elections
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 519 | Recorded: February 25, 2026
#Armenia #Iran #ArmeniaElections #ArmenianChurch #SouthCaucasus</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Week in Review covers three major threads, the risk of escalation around Iran and what it means for Armenia’s regional posture, the growing set of legal and political moves shaping Armenia’s June 7 parliamentary elections, and the continuing confrontation between Nikol Pashinyan’s government and the Armenian Church, including actions affecting Catholicos Karekin II and senior clergy.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Iran war fears, the state of US-Iran talks, and Israeli pressure for maximal demands</li>
<li>Armenia-Iran ties, senior Armenian visits to Tehran, and how TRIPP affects trust</li>
<li>June 7 parliamentary elections, rule changes, and claims of an uneven playing field</li>
<li>Opposition landscape and how major blocs are forming ahead of June 7</li>
<li>Escalating clash between the government and the Armenian Church</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How likely is a near-term war on Iran, and what are the red lines in the talks?</li>
<li>Where do Trump’s instincts differ from Israel and US hardliners on Iran?</li>
<li>Why the recent stream of senior Armenian visits to Tehran, and what is Iran watching for?</li>
<li>How has TRIPP changed Iran-Armenia trust and risk perceptions?</li>
<li>What does the current opposition lineup suggest about June 7 scenarios?</li>
<li>Is the Church conflict targeted at Karekin II, or aimed at the institution itself?</li>
<li>Who benefits from a weakened or divided Armenian Church?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-evaluating-potential-measures-event-iran-us-conflict-source-says-2026-02-25/">Turkey evaluating potential measures in event of Iran-US conflict, source says (Reuters)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/azh-yntroutyounneroum-koalitsia-kazmelou-sahmanapakoum-chi-lini-i-nch-popokhoutyounner-en-ouzhi-mej-mtel/33685523.html">Higher bar for electoral alliances (Azatutyun)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1243011">Pashinyan announces pension increase starting April 1 (Armenpress)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/519/thumbnail-519.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/519/thumbnail-519.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18758537-dziunik-aghajanian-iran-war-fears-june-vote-rules-state-church-clash-ep-519-feb-22-2026.mp3" length="39791593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3313</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Zaroui Pogossian - Vardanank, The Battle of Avarayr in 451 AD | Ep 518, Feb 24, 2026
[EP518]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/518-zaroui-pogossian-vartanank-battle-of-avarayr-451-ad/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 18:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18743246-zaroui-pogossian-vardanank-the-battle-of-avarayr-in-451-ad-ep-518-feb-24-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>518</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Zaroui Pogossian - Vardanank, The Battle of Avarayr in 451 AD | Ep 518, Feb 24, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Deep History - February 24, 2026
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Vardanank Wars and Battle of Avarayr
* Armenian Sources, Yeghishe and Parpetsi
* Politics, Christianity, Nakharar Power Dynamics
Episode 518 | Recorded: February 22, 2026
#GroongDeepHistory #Vardanank #BattleOfAvarayr #ArmenianHistory #ZarouiPogossian</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Vardanank Wars and Battle of Avarayr
* Armenian Sources, Yeghishe and Parpetsi
* Politics, Christianity, Nakharar Power Dynamics
Episode 518 | Recorded: February 22, 2026
#GroongDeepHistory #Vardanank #BattleOfAvarayr #ArmenianHistory #ZarouiPogossian</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Vardanank Wars and Battle of Avarayr
* Armenian Sources, Yeghishe and Parpetsi
* Politics, Christianity, Nakharar Power Dynamics
Episode 518 | Recorded: February 22, 2026
#GroongDeepHistory #Vardanank #BattleOfAvarayr #ArmenianHistory #ZarouiPogossian</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the inaugural <strong>Groong Deep History</strong> episode, historian <strong>Prof. Zaroui Pogossian</strong> joins the show to unpack the <strong>Vardanank wars</strong> and the <strong>Battle of Avarayr (451 AD)</strong>. The conversation sets the longer political and religious context behind the conflict, explains what we can and cannot know from the main Armenian sources, and revisits the standard “moral victory” story through modern source criticism. Pogossian also discusses her work on medieval Armenia and previews an upcoming scholarly volume on <strong>Medieval Yeghegis</strong>, then uses a critical reading by <strong>Hayk Hakobyan</strong> to question common assumptions about Avarayr’s scale, geography, and strategy.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Launch of the new <strong>Deep History</strong> series</li>
<li>Medieval Armenia research, and the <strong>Yeghegis</strong> scholarly project</li>
<li>Why <strong>Vardanank</strong> remains central to Armenian identity</li>
<li>What Armenian sources say about <strong>Avarayr (451)</strong></li>
<li>The geopolitical setup: <strong>387 partition</strong>, <strong>428 end of Arsacids</strong>, Persian administration</li>
<li>Christianity, Church authority, and the dynastic catholicosate</li>
<li>Nakharar politics, the <strong>Mamikonians</strong>, and elite fractures</li>
<li>Re-reading Avarayr as strategy, not mythmaking</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is Pogossian’s research focus, and why medieval Armenia?</li>
<li>What is <strong>Yeghegis</strong>, and why build a full volume around it?</li>
<li>Who were <strong>Yeghishe</strong> and <strong>Ghazar Parpetsi</strong>, and how reliable are they?</li>
<li>Who wrote history in Armenia in this period, and for whom?</li>
<li>How did the <strong>387 partition</strong> reshape Armenian life and power?</li>
<li>Why did the nakharars accept Persian rule after <strong>428</strong>?</li>
<li>What changed after the deaths of <strong>Sahak</strong> and <strong>Mashtots</strong>?</li>
<li>What did Armenia’s internal offices (sparapet, marzpet, hazarapet, Church) mean in practice?</li>
<li>Who were <strong>Vartan</strong> and <strong>Vasak</strong>, and what drove their choices?</li>
<li>What parts of the standard Avarayr story rest on later tradition and weak reconstruction?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li>Books by Prof. Pogossian:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://brill.com/display/book/9789004192102/Bej.9789004191891.i-476_001.xml">The Letter of Love and Concord</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.brepols.net/products/IS-9788028008109-1">Medieval Yeghegis, Armenia: History, Archaeology, Society. Local Multiplicities and Global Connections of a Rural Centre on the Silk Road(s)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Original historical sources:
<ul>
<li>Eghishe:
<ul>
<li><a href="archive.org">Eghishe: “History of Vardan and The Armenian War” (archive.org)</a></li>
<li>Video of Armenian <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFXf6rKUk-7xlJaNAaAfEyRxw2NdwkPtX">narration</a> of Eghishe’s history</li>
<li>Archbishop Boghos Levon Zekian’s <a href="https://dn720005.ca.archive.org/0/items/zekiyan-1980-eghishe-as-witness/Zekiyan_1980_Eghishe_as_Witness.pdf">analysis</a> of Eghishe’s history</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Parpetsi:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://attalus.org/armenian/gpintro.htm">Ghazar P&rsquo;arpec&rsquo;i&rsquo;s History of the Armenians (attalus.org)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://arar.sci.am/dlibra/publication/192516/edition/174891?language=en">Battle of Avarayr</a> by historian Hayk Hakobyan</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW7MgHK5FPY">Interview</a> of Hayk Hakobyan on Bun TV</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/518/thumbnail-518.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/518/thumbnail-518.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18743246-zaroui-pogossian-vardanank-the-battle-of-avarayr-in-451-ad-ep-518-feb-24-2026.mp3" length="50167127" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4177</itunes:duration></item><item><title>JD Vance in Armenia and Azerbaijan | Ep 517, Feb 15, 2026
[EP517]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/517-jd-vance-visit-armenia-yerevan-tsitsernakaberd-armenian-genocide-autocorrect-diplomacy-staffer-error-tripp-zangezur-corridor-us-stake-small-nuclear-reactor-smr-peaceful-nuclear-cooperation-firebird-ai-factory-drones-church-silence-baku-aliyev/</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18685232-jd-vance-in-armenia-and-azerbaijan-ep-517-feb-15-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>517</itunes:episode><itunes:title>JD Vance in Armenia and Azerbaijan | Ep 517, Feb 15, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Vance visit, protocol and optics
* Tsitsernakaberd tweet, “autocorrect diplomacy”
* TRIPP corridor stake and sovereignty risks
* Nuclear SMR deal, costs and dependency
* Firebird AI project, power and value
* Drones, church silence, Baku charter and prisoners
Episode 517 | Recorded: February 13, 2026
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* Vance visit, protocol and optics
* Tsitsernakaberd tweet, “autocorrect diplomacy”
* TRIPP corridor stake and sovereignty risks
* Nuclear SMR deal, costs and dependency
* Firebird AI project, power and value
* Drones, church silence, Baku charter and prisoners
Episode 517 | Recorded: February 13, 2026
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#### Topics:
* Vance visit, protocol and optics
* Tsitsernakaberd tweet, “autocorrect diplomacy”
* TRIPP corridor stake and sovereignty risks
* Nuclear SMR deal, costs and dependency
* Firebird AI project, power and value
* Drones, church silence, Baku charter and prisoners
Episode 517 | Recorded: February 13, 2026
#Groong #Armenia #JDVance #Tsitsernakaberd #TRIPP</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD Vance’s visit to Armenia became a case study in symbolism, protocol, and leverage. Asbed and Hovik unpack what the trip signaled in Yerevan and Baku, from the Tsitsernakaberd controversy and “autocorrect diplomacy,” to the unanswered details behind TRIPP, the nuclear “peaceful cooperation” announcement, and the Firebird AI factory claims. They also weigh what Vance did not address, including the crackdown on the Armenian Church and the practical limits of US defense sales, then compare the Armenia stop to the Azerbaijan stop and the “Strategic Partnership Charter.”</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Pre-visit context and optics</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Vance’s broader trip optics, security posture, and the surge of military transport flights to Armenia and Azerbaijan (with no clarity on cargo).</li>
<li>How “historic” the visit was for Armenia versus the region, based on prior high-level US visits to Georgia and Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Protocol and the Tsitsernakaberd controversy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Vance’s solo visit to the Genocide Memorial, lack of Armenian official accompaniment, and what that implies about protocol and domestic politics in Yerevan.</li>
<li>The tweet wording change and the episode’s framing of “autocorrect diplomacy.”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>TRIPP and sovereignty risk</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The deal structure as described (long-term majority US stake), and how unanswered terms shape sovereignty, enforceability, and future resale risk.</li>
<li>Why the corridor’s narrow scope benefits Turkey and Azerbaijan, and what expansions could have made it strategically useful for Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Small nuclear reactor cooperation</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The $9B “export” confusion, why transparency matters, and how SMRs compare to large reactor options on cost, timelines, and energy strategy.</li>
<li>Fuel route, uranium sourcing, waste handling, and long-term dependency risks.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Firebird AI factory</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The gap between PR claims and reported financial and operational signals.</li>
<li>Power requirements, grid realities, and what “value-add” would mean for Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Defense sales, the Church, elections, and Baku</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>V-BAT drones as PR versus strategic utility, especially under wartime import constraints.</li>
<li>Vance’s silence on jailed clergy and church persecution.</li>
<li>Vance’s public endorsement framing tied to Armenia’s elections.</li>
<li>In Baku: the charter signing, public claims about prisoners, and how that contrasts with expectations set in Yerevan.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="estimate-on-firebird-data-center-power-estimate">Estimate on Firebird data center power estimate</h2>
<p><strong>GPUs:</strong><br>
50,000</p>
<p><strong>Rack configuration:</strong><br>
72 GPUs per rack<br>
50,000 / 72 ≈ 694 racks</p>
<p><strong>Rack power:</strong><br>
132-140 kW per rack</p>
<p><strong>Compute load:</strong><br>
694 × 132 kW ≈ 91.6 MW<br>
694 × 140 kW ≈ 97.2 MW</p>
<p><strong>Add ~10% non-GPU IT overhead:</strong><br>
≈ 100-107 MW IT load</p>
<p><strong>Apply PUE 1.1-1.3:</strong><br>
Total facility demand ≈ <strong>110-140 MW</strong></p>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What did the trip signal about US priorities in Armenia versus Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Why was Tsitsernakaberd handled as a quasi-personal stop, and what does that say about Armenian domestic politics and protocol?</li>
<li>Who can enforce TRIPP terms in a crisis, and what happens if ownership changes hands later?</li>
<li>Why insist on SMRs, and what is the realistic $/MW and timeline before 2030?</li>
<li>If Armenia borrows for nuclear and AI projects, what happens to debt and strategic autonomy?</li>
<li>Can US drone sales matter in a hot war if transit routes run through hostile or constrained neighbors?</li>
<li>Why did Vance avoid public pressure on the church crackdown despite his “defender of Christians” branding?</li>
<li>What did Vance actually do in Baku on prisoners, and which prisoners did he mean?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<h3 id="tsitsernakaberd-genocide-recognition-and-protocol-optics">Tsitsernakaberd, Genocide recognition, and protocol optics</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/pelosi-congressional-delegation-visit-dzidzernagapert/">Pelosi Congressional Delegation Visit Dzidzernagapert</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="nuclear-cooperation-and-reactor-economics">Nuclear cooperation and reactor economics</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://world-nuclear-news.org/articles/us-armenia-sign-agreement-on-nuclear-energy">US and Armenia sign agreement on nuclear energy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/vances-9-billion-figure-for-exports-in-us-armenia-nuclear-energy-cooperation-sparks-confusion/">Vance’s “$9B export” figure sparks confusion</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2026/02/10/opposition-figure-nuclear-deal/3151690">Opposition figure comments on nuclear deal and China offer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asiatimes.com/2021/08/its-full-speed-ahead-at-xudabao-3-nuclear-plant/">Rosatom VVER-1200 cost reference (Xudabao-3)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neimagazine.com/news/korea-to-resume-construction-of-shin-hanul-34-10946507/">Korea to resume construction of Shin Hanul 3 and 4</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="firebird-ai-factory-data-centers-and-power-draw">Firebird AI factory, data centers, and power draw</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://solartechonline.com/blog/how-much-electricity-data-center-use-guide">How much electricity do data centers use?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.supermicro.com/datasheet/datasheet_SuperCluster_GB300_NVL72.pdf">Supermicro GB300 NVL72 datasheet (rack power reference)</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="elections-endorsement-and-domestic-politics">Elections, endorsement, and domestic politics</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2026/02/09/Nikol-Pashinyan-J-D-Vance-Announcement/">Vance endorsement remarks on Armenia government site</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-visit-charter-signing-and-prisoners-claims">Azerbaijan visit, charter signing, and “prisoners” claims</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://minval.az/news/124515952">Vance and Aliyev sign “Strategic Partnership Charter” (Minval)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CivilNetTV/status/2021205593768280256">CivilNet clip on Vance and “prisoners” (X)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/vance-claims-to-have-discussed-release-of-prisoners-with-aliyev/">Vance claims to have discussed release of prisoners with Aliyev</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/517/thumbnail-517.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/517/thumbnail-517.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18685232-jd-vance-in-armenia-and-azerbaijan-ep-517-feb-15-2026.mp3" length="44368284" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3694</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Philippe Raffi Kalfayan - Europe and America, JD Vance in Armenia, Pashinyan vs. Church | Ep 516, Feb 8, 2026
[EP516]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/516-philippe-raffi-kalfayan-europe-america-jd-vance-in-armenia-pashinyan-vs-armenian-church/</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 02:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18665455-philippe-raffi-kalfayan-europe-and-america-jd-vance-in-armenia-pashinyan-vs-the-armenian-church-ep-516-feb-8-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>516</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Philippe Raffi Kalfayan - Europe and America, JD Vance in Armenia, Pashinyan vs. Church | Ep 516, Feb 8, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* A European View of America
* JD Vance in Armenia
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Europe and Armenia
Episode 516 | Recorded: February 9, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* JD Vance in Armenia
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Europe and Armenia
Episode 516 | Recorded: February 9, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* A European View of America
* JD Vance in Armenia
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Europe and Armenia
Episode 516 | Recorded: February 9, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 id="heading"></h3>
<h1 id="summary">summary</h1>
<p>Philippe Raffi Kalfayan argues that “America First” has turned the U.S. into a harder, more transactional power toward Europe, and that Europe is exposed because it still lacks unified defense and foreign policy capacity. The discussion then moves to JD Vance’s reported Armenia stop and the TRIPP, which Kalfayan frames as a long-horizon corridor project that may be “secured” without securing Armenia, with unclear beneficiaries and success conditions Armenia does not fully control. The episode also covers Azerbaijan’s leverage, pressure tied to “returns” narratives, hostages in Baku, and the broader strain between Pashinyan and the Armenian Church, all set against Europe’s limited willingness to pay real costs for Armenia.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why Trump-era U.S. policy is unpopular in Europe, and why that matters for Europe’s security posture</li>
<li>Europe’s structural limits (defense, foreign policy, and accountability gaps)</li>
<li>U.S. goals vis-a-vis Russia and China (and the risks for Europeans)</li>
<li>JD Vance’s Armenia visit as signal, and what Armenia should assume (and not assume) from it</li>
<li>TRIPP mechanics and sovereignty risk (control, concession logic, beneficiaries, enforcement)</li>
<li>The “asset protection” model (corridor security versus state security)</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s leverage, “return” narratives, and pressure tactics</li>
<li>Hostages in Baku, and the limits of Western leverage</li>
<li>Pashinyan vs the Armenian Church, and how internal conflict intersects with geopolitics</li>
<li>Europe–Armenia ties, incentives, and where rhetoric diverges from action</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why is the current U.S. posture so unpopular in Europe, and is it a long-term shift?</li>
<li>Can Europe act as a strategic actor without unified defense and foreign policy tools?</li>
<li>What does Vance’s visit suggest about U.S. priorities in Armenia and the region?</li>
<li>Does TRIPP increase Armenia’s security, or mainly protect a route and its operators?</li>
<li>Who really controls TRIPP, and why do “ultimate beneficiaries” matter?</li>
<li>If TRIPP depends on peace with Azerbaijan and normalization with Turkey, who holds leverage?</li>
<li>What can the West realistically demand from Baku regarding Armenian hostages?</li>
<li>How does the Pashinyan–Church conflict change Armenia’s negotiating position?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://time.com/7372884/jd-vance-booed-olympics-europe/">JD Vance booed at Olympics in Europe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://yougov.co.uk/international/articles/54019-how-popular-is-donald-trump-in-europe-january-2026">YouGov: How popular is Donald Trump in Europe? (Jan 2026)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20260109-how-us-politics-is-affecting-international-travel">BBC Travel: How US politics is affecting international travel (Jan 2026)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2026/02/07/2358245.html">168.am item referenced in discussion</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33671553.html">Azatutyun report referenced in discussion</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2026/01/30/america-first-armenias-reckless-gamble/">America First: Armenia’s Reckless Gamble</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2025/08/12/hypothetical-peace-damaged-sovereignty-and-turbulence-in-perspective/">Hypothetical Peace: Damaged Sovereignty and Turbulence in Perspective</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1241402">Armenpress item referenced in discussion</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/516/thumbnail-516.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/516/thumbnail-516.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18665455-philippe-raffi-kalfayan-europe-and-america-jd-vance-in-armenia-pashinyan-vs-the-armenian-church-ep-516-feb-8-2026.mp3" length="44461355" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3702</itunes:duration></item><item><title>James Carden &amp; Pietro Shakarian - Global Affairs in the Age of Trump 2.0 | Ep 515, Feb 7, 2026
[EP515]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/515-james-carden-pietro-shakarian-global-affairs-in-the-age-of-trump-2.0/</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2026 00:08:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18642069-james-carden-pietro-shakarian-global-affairs-in-the-age-of-trump-2-0-ep-515-feb-7-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>515</itunes:episode><itunes:title>James Carden &amp; Pietro Shakarian - Global Affairs in the Age of Trump 2.0 | Ep 515, Feb 7, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on February 6, 2026
        
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#### Guest:
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* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Trump 2.0 and the “Donroe Doctrine”
* Rules-Based Disorder?
* Iran vs. the “Big, Beautiful Armada”
* US Cohesion and Midterms
* JD Vance in the South Caucasus
Episode 515 | Recorded: February 6, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Trump 2.0 and the “Donroe Doctrine”
* Rules-Based Disorder?
* Iran vs. the “Big, Beautiful Armada”
* US Cohesion and Midterms
* JD Vance in the South Caucasus
Episode 515 | Recorded: February 6, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Trump 2.0 and the “Donroe Doctrine”
* Rules-Based Disorder?
* Iran vs. the “Big, Beautiful Armada”
* US Cohesion and Midterms
* JD Vance in the South Caucasus
Episode 515 | Recorded: February 6, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>James W.Carden and Pietro A. Shakarian assess Trump 2.0’s “Donroe Doctrine” framing as branding for coercive, deal-driven policy, then widen the lens to the collapse of “rules-based order” language and the rise of pay-to-play influence concepts like Trump’s proposed “Board of Peace.” The conversation turns to Iran, where escalating pressure, shifting demands, and regional signaling raise the risk of conflict and spillover effects for Armenia. The episode closes on JD Vance’s planned Armenia-Azerbaijan trip, how Moscow and Tehran may read it, and how corridor politics (TRIPP) and Armenia’s church-state confrontation shape the stakes.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Trump 2.0 foreign policy framing (“Donroe Doctrine”), hemispheric primacy, coercion, and transactional expansion rhetoric</li>
<li>Great-power signaling and arms control after New START’s expiration</li>
<li>The erosion of “rules-based order” narratives and Trump’s “Board of Peace” concept</li>
<li>Iran escalation dynamics, coercive diplomacy versus pretext, and Russia-China signaling</li>
<li>US domestic cohesion, enforcement politics, and structural versus personality-driven instability</li>
<li>JD Vance’s Armenia-Azerbaijan visit, corridor pressure (TRIPP), and regional reactions (Russia and Iran)</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What does the “Donroe Doctrine” label capture, and what does it hide?</li>
<li>Is the hemisphere-first posture mainly about China, and how does it show up in policy?</li>
<li>What does New START’s expiration signal, and who benefits from the leverage it creates?</li>
<li>Was “rules-based order” ever more than a slogan, and what is replacing it?</li>
<li>Is the “Board of Peace” a serious institution, or influence-for-sale dressed as governance?</li>
<li>On Iran, are demands structured to produce a deal, or to engineer failure?</li>
<li>What escalation steps are most plausible, and what could halt them?</li>
<li>Is US internal turbulence a Trump spike, or an acceleration of long-running system stress?</li>
<li>Why send JD Vance to Armenia and Azerbaijan now, and what message does it send to Russia and Iran?</li>
<li>How do TRIPP and Armenia’s church-state confrontation shape the visit’s implications?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>Axios: Tim Scott, Trump, and the Obama “ape” video story<br>
<a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/02/06/tim-scott-trump-obama-ape-video">https://www.axios.com/2026/02/06/tim-scott-trump-obama-ape-video</a></li>
<li>The Realist Review (Substack)<br>
<a href="https://therealistreview.substack.com/">https://therealistreview.substack.com/</a></li>
<li>Dr. Pietro Shakarian&rsquo;s book: <em>Anastas Mikoyan</em><br>
<a href="https://iupress.org/9780253073556/anastas-mikoyan/">https://iupress.org/9780253073556/anastas-mikoyan/</a></li>
<li>Dr. Shakarian&rsquo;s latest article on the topic in <em>The Nation</em> is <strong>JD Vance: A Prisoner of the Caucasus</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/world/vance-russia-armenia-genocide/">https://www.thenation.com/article/world/vance-russia-armenia-genocide/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/515/thumbnail-515.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/515/thumbnail-515.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18642069-james-carden-pietro-shakarian-global-affairs-in-the-age-of-trump-2-0-ep-515-feb-7-2026.mp3" length="48960447" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4076</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Andrei Tsygankov - Canceling Russia and The Towers of the Kremlin | Ep 514, Feb 5, 2026
[EP514]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/514-andrei-tsygankov-canceling-russia-ukraine-war-rise-of-western-hawks-towers-of-kremlin/</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2026 11:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18630683-andrei-tsygankov-canceling-russia-and-the-towers-of-the-kremlin-ep-514-feb-5-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>514</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Andrei Tsygankov - Canceling Russia and The Towers of the Kremlin | Ep 514, Feb 5, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Defining the “Canceling Russia” phenomenon
* The “cancel Russia” lobby
* Containment shifts to coercive transformation
* Russian Orthodox Church as battleground
* Kremlin “towers” and civilizational logic
Episode 514 | Recorded: February 4, 2026
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* Containment shifts to coercive transformation
* Russian Orthodox Church as battleground
* Kremlin “towers” and civilizational logic
Episode 514 | Recorded: February 4, 2026
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* The “cancel Russia” lobby
* Containment shifts to coercive transformation
* Russian Orthodox Church as battleground
* Kremlin “towers” and civilizational logic
Episode 514 | Recorded: February 4, 2026
#CancelingRussia #RussianForeignPolicy #UkraineWar #StateCivilization #TowersOfTheKremlin #RussianOrthodoxChurch</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode features political scientist Andrei Tsygankov on his new book <em>Canceling Russia</em>, the Western shift from “containment” to “coercive transformation,” and how the “towers of the Kremlin” shape Russian foreign policy. The discussion also examines the “state-civilization” concept, civilizational competition around Russia, and whether today’s “might makes right” climate could push Russia toward a more unilateral, jungle-rules approach.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>“Canceling Russia” as a mass-scale political and cultural campaign</li>
<li>Western strategy shift: containment to coercive transformation</li>
<li>The “cancel Russia lobby” and the role of think tanks</li>
<li>Trump’s approach to Russia and Europe’s burden-sharing</li>
<li>The Russian Orthodox Church as a geopolitical and information battleground</li>
<li>How Russian foreign policy is made (the “towers of the Kremlin”)</li>
<li>“State-civilization” and civilizational discourse</li>
<li>Degradation of the international order into “law of the jungle”</li>
<li>Whether Russia could adopt a more unilateral style</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How did “Canceling Russia” begin, and how is it sustained?</li>
<li>How has canceling affected academia and scholarship, including the guest’s experience?</li>
<li>What explains the West’s policy trajectory from containment to coercive transformation?</li>
<li>When and why did the window for coexistence close, if it did?</li>
<li>Who makes up the “cancel Russia lobby,” and how does it function?</li>
<li>What role do think tanks play in shaping the agenda and narrative?</li>
<li>How should Trump’s Russia policy be read, real shift or tactical adjustment?</li>
<li>How does pressure on the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine serve wider aims, and what risks follow?</li>
<li>How do “towers of the Kremlin” shape policy signals and red lines?</li>
<li>In Ukraine, were Moscow’s red lines misread, dismissed, or judged irrational?</li>
<li>What does “state-civilization” mean internally vs. externally?</li>
<li>Is it compatible with Huntington-style civilizational blocs?</li>
<li>Why has “international order” weakened into raw power politics?</li>
<li>Could Russia evolve toward a more unilateral “might makes right” posture beyond Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li>Prof. Tsygankov&rsquo;s recent books:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/0izauT7T">“Canceling” Russia (2026)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/07NNNT6d">Russia’s Foreign Policy (2025)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://unn.ua/en/amp/fifa-president-infantino-added-to-myrotvorets-database-over-calls-to-reinstate-russia-in-football">FIFA President Infantino added to Myrotvorets database (UNN)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/514/thumbnail-514.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/514/thumbnail-514.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18630683-andrei-tsygankov-canceling-russia-and-the-towers-of-the-kremlin-ep-514-feb-5-2026.mp3" length="56265799" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4686</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Joel Veldkamp - Christian Solidarity International Visits Armenian Bishops in Jail | Ep 513, Feb 4, 2026
[EP513]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/513-joel-veldkamp-csi-christian-solidarity-international-visits-armenian-catholicos-jailed-archbishop-bagrat-galstanyan/</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 12:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18625132-christian-solidarity-international-visits-jailed-armenian-clergy-ep-513-feb-4-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>513</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Joel Veldkamp - Christian Solidarity International Visits Armenian Bishops in Jail | Ep 513, Feb 4, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* CSI Visits Jailed Cleric
* IRF Summit
* PACE MP Speaks Up
Episode 513 | Recorded: February 3, 2026
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #IRFSummit2026 #ChristianSolidarityInternational</itunes:summary><description>
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* PACE MP Speaks Up
Episode 513 | Recorded: February 3, 2026
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #IRFSummit2026 #ChristianSolidarityInternational</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* IRF Summit
* PACE MP Speaks Up
Episode 513 | Recorded: February 3, 2026
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #IRFSummit2026 #ChristianSolidarityInternational</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Joel Veldkamp (CSI) returns to discuss CSI’s latest Armenia visit, including access to jailed clergy and the condition and message of Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan. The conversation then shifts to Armenia’s posture at international religious freedom forums, including the IRF Summit in Washington, and whether the widening pressure on bishops (including travel restrictions tied to the planned Austria assembly) is getting outside attention. The episode closes with the emerging international record, including a Council of Europe exchange involving Ararat Mirzoyan and questions about whether the government can sustain its narrative ahead of major upcoming international meetings.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h3 id="csi-visits-armenian-bishops-in-jail">CSI visits Armenian bishops in jail</h3>
<ul>
<li>What changed since November 2025, when the Ministry of Justice was unresponsive to CSI requests.</li>
<li>CSI’s delegation and what the visit aimed to establish.</li>
<li>Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan’s condition and message after the visit.</li>
<li>The broader context of detentions, surveillance, and pressure against clergy.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="irf-summit-and-armenias-international-messaging">IRF Summit and Armenia’s international messaging</h3>
<ul>
<li>The IRF Summit in Washington D.C. and Armenia’s participation.</li>
<li>Whether Armenia-related church repression is being raised at the summit.</li>
<li>The reported travel restrictions and criminal cases used to block senior bishops from traveling to the emergency Episcopal Assembly in Austria.</li>
<li>The appearance (or cancellation) risk around Aram Vardevanyan’s participation.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-and-council-of-europe-attention">EU and Council of Europe attention</h3>
<ul>
<li>A Council of Europe moment where Ararat Mirzoyan is questioned about attacks on the Church.</li>
<li>Galstanyan’s public reaction to parliamentary monitoring language about Armenia.</li>
<li>Whether the government can sustain claims that there is no persecution, especially with an EPC meeting planned in Yerevan.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<h3 id="csi-visit">CSI visit</h3>
<ul>
<li>What prompted this new visit, and what changed since November?</li>
<li>How is Archbishop Galstanyan doing, and what message did he convey?</li>
<li>What did the delegation aim to document or validate during the visit?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="irf-summit">IRF Summit</h3>
<ul>
<li>What message did CSI bring to IRF Summit participants?</li>
<li>Did this issue receive attention at the summit, and from whom?</li>
<li>Was Aram Vardevanyan able to speak, and did anyone else raise Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="parliamentary-scrutiny-and-narrative-control">Parliamentary scrutiny and narrative control</h3>
<ul>
<li>How credible are the allegations that church leaders face prosecution for threats or incitement, versus political persecution?</li>
<li>Can the government keep international scrutiny limited, given upcoming high-visibility meetings (including the EPC gathering in Yerevan)?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Report mentioned at the CSI/ACPR conference: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cF8bcqCOAgPDCaK9Oa-uDFxCCEH5CwHv/view?usp=sharing"><strong>Injustice in Armenia: Mass political persecutions of 2025 (May–September)</strong></a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018206820452442524">Council of Europe exchange amplified by CSI (re: Ararat Mirzoyan questioned):</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>CSI tweets from Armenia (as referenced in outline):</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2019064982831329697">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2019064982831329697</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018777515272163653">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018777515272163653</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018657968062185911">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018657968062185911</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018745705532211565">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/2018745705532211565</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/513/thumbnail-513.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/513/thumbnail-513.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18625132-christian-solidarity-international-visits-jailed-armenian-clergy-ep-513-feb-4-2026.mp3" length="17873045" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1486</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Asbed &amp; Hovik - Iran, Varchaband, War on Church, Mehmet Oz, Strong Armenia, Noragyugh | Ep 512, Feb 1, 2026
[EP512]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/512-asbed-hovik-iran-varchaband-war-on-church-mehmet-oz-strong-armenia-narek-karapetyan-noragyugh/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 18:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18621790-iran-varchaband-war-on-church-mehmet-oz-strong-armenia-noragyugh-ep-512-feb-1-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>512</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Asbed &amp; Hovik - Iran, Varchaband, War on Church, Mehmet Oz, Strong Armenia, Noragyugh | Ep 512, Feb 1, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Mehmet Oz vs Armenian Americans
* Narek Karapetyan and Strong Armenia
* A Big Beautiful Noragyugh
Episode 512 | Recorded: February 2, 2026
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Episode 512 | Recorded: February 2, 2026
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* A Big Beautiful Noragyugh
Episode 512 | Recorded: February 2, 2026
#IranIsraelWar #TrumpArmada #ArmenianChurch #Pashinyan #ArmenianDiaspora</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/512/thumbnail-512.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/512/thumbnail-512.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18621790-iran-varchaband-war-on-church-mehmet-oz-strong-armenia-noragyugh-ep-512-feb-1-2026.mp3" length="37703614" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3139</itunes:duration></item><item><title>David Davidian - Armenia’s Foreign Intel Service Annual Report | Ep 511, Jan 31, 2026
[EP511]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/511-david-davidian-armenia-foreign-intelligence-service-annual-report-security-risk-assessment-kristinne-grigoryan/</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18602383-david-davidian-armenia-s-foreign-intel-service-annual-report-ep-511-jan-31-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>511</itunes:episode><itunes:title>David Davidian - Armenia’s Foreign Intel Service Annual Report | Ep 511, Jan 31, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Pashinyan vs. Church
* TRIPP
* Armenia Parliamentary Election
Episode 511 | Recorded: January 28, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Pashinyan vs. Church
* TRIPP
* Armenia Parliamentary Election
Episode 511 | Recorded: January 28, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* Pashinyan vs. Church
* TRIPP
* Armenia Parliamentary Election
Episode 511 | Recorded: January 28, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>David Davidian reviews Armenia’s 2026 External Security Risk Assessment from the Foreign Intelligence Service (FIS) and argues it reads like a generic public document, not a usable intelligence product. He and the hosts discuss why the FIS was split from the National Security Service, what a real risk assessment should deliver (priorities, methods, and actionable guidance), and where the report falls short. The conversation also covers how the report uses “hybrid threats,” how it frames Azerbaijan and the risk of escalation, and why the technology section (AI, data centers, GPUs) raises security and civil-liberty concerns if the state lacks data safeguards and governance.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Why Armenia created a standalone Foreign Intelligence Service</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The case for separating foreign intelligence from internal security functions</li>
<li>Questions about institutional maturity and leadership background</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>What a public-facing intelligence report should do</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>State clear priorities and define what “risk” means in practice</li>
<li>Explain methods behind judgments (not just labels)</li>
<li>Provide actionable guidance, not only thematic coverage</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Probability language and analytic rigor</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Critique of how the report assigns probability categories</li>
<li>What is missing: ranking, justification, and triggers that would change an assessment</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>“Hybrid threats” versus soft power</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>“Hybrid” treated as a catch-all category</li>
<li>Is “hybrid” used as a political frame instead of an analytical lens?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Azerbaijan and the “escalation is unlikely” framing</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How the report treats escalation risk after the Washington track (August 8 meeting in the White House)</li>
<li>Emphasis on hard-security realities raised in the discussion, including continued occupation of Armenian territory</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>TRIPP and strategic exposure</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How TRIPP-related dynamics could shape Armenia’s risk landscape under regional escalation scenarios</li>
<li>Trade-route vulnerability and leverage risks tied to corridor politics</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Technology, AI, and data centers</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Skepticism toward “AI/data center” messaging without a national strategy</li>
<li>Data custody, governance, and exposure to foreign leverage</li>
<li>Concerns about surveillance systems, personal data misuse, and weak safeguards</li>
<li>Concerns over the lack of policy, and good practice</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why split foreign intelligence out of the NSS, and what problem was it meant to solve?</li>
<li>What should a national risk assessment deliver that this report does not?</li>
<li>How should probabilities be justified, audited, and updated?</li>
<li>Is “hybrid threat” being used as an analytic category, or as a political label?</li>
<li>How should Armenia assess escalation risk with Azerbaijan, and what gets underweighted?</li>
<li>What does “AI” mean as a security issue for a small state, and who controls the data?</li>
<li>What safeguards exist, or should exist, against misuse of surveillance and personal data?</li>
<li>How should Armenia assess TRIPP-linked exposure if a major regional escalation unfolds?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://shadowdiplomat.com/critical-evaluation-strategic-deficiencies-in-the-2026-external-security-risk-assessment-of-armenia/">Critical Evaluation: Strategic Deficiencies in the 2026 External Security Risk Assessment of Armenia</a>  (David Davidian, Shadow Diplomat)</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/storage/content/2025/pdf/NewFolder/FISA_Annual_Report_2026_English.pdf">Annual Report on External Security Risks of the Republic of Armenia for 2026 (FIS, English PDF)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP510]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/510-arthur-khachatryan-no-peace-davos-jd-vance-armenia-ethnic-cleansing-artsakh/</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 02:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18587463-arthur-khachatryan-army-day-jd-vance-to-armenia-tripp-church-strong-armenia-party-ep-510-jan-25-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>510</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Army Day, JD Vance to Armenia, TRIPP, Church, Strong Armenia Political Party | Ep 510, Jan 27, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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Episode 510 | Recorded: Jnauary 27, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 510 | Recorded: Jnauary 27, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 id="heading"></h3>
<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>At Davos, Mark Carney’s blunt comment that the “rules-based international order” is a myth set the tone for a wider discussion about how small states survive in a system where rules get enforced selectively. From there, our discussion with <strong>MP Arthur Khachatryan</strong>  moved to Washington’s announced visit to Armenia and Azerbaijan by VP JD Vance and the TRIPP framing, including what it signals for Armenia’s strategic direction, and how Iran and Russia may react. In further topics, we focused on Armenia’s Church-state crisis (including the bishops’ assembly moving to Austria and the Talin liturgy incident), the last known Armenians leaving Artsakh, and the emergence of a new opposition force tied to the Mer Dzevov movement ahead of the June elections.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h3 id="davos-and-the-rules-based-order-myth">Davos and the “rules-based order” myth</h3>
<ul>
<li>Why public admissions about selective enforcement matter, especially for small states.</li>
<li>Armenia’s post-2020 reality check, and what “rules” mean when power decides outcomes.</li>
<li>How Pashinyan uses “world order collapse” as an explanation for domestic failures.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="us-signaling-vance-trip-tripp-framing-and-regional-blowback">U.S. signaling: Vance trip, TRIPP framing, and regional blowback</h3>
<ul>
<li>What the announced Armenia-Azerbaijan visit suggests about U.S. priorities.</li>
<li>The logic and risks of TRIPP in a context defined by Iran and Russia’s red lines.</li>
<li>Practical questions about “cooperation” headlines (energy, tech, nuclear) versus leverage realities.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenian-church-pressure-campaign-and-institutional-rupture">Armenian Church pressure campaign and institutional rupture</h3>
<ul>
<li>The bishops’ assembly moving to St. Pölten, Austria, and why that is historically notable.</li>
<li>The “church reform council” pushback and internal church politics.</li>
<li>The Talin episode and the pattern of coercion around worship spaces.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="mer-dzevov-and-the-strong-armenia-party">Mer Dzevov and the “Strong Armenia” party</h3>
<ul>
<li>How Samvel Karapetyan’s case became a political catalyst.</li>
<li>What “Strong Armenia” could mean for opposition alignment, vote splitting, and coalition math.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>If the “rules-based order” is not real in practice, what should Armenia’s baseline strategy be?</li>
<li>What could Armenia have done differently in 2020–2023 given structural power limits?</li>
<li>Does the announced U.S. agenda treat Armenia as a partner, a corridor, or a bargaining chip?</li>
<li>How tolerable is open TRIPP messaging for Iran and Russia, and what risks land on Armenia first?</li>
<li>What should Armenians expect from U.S. officials on political prisoners, clergy arrests, and hostages in Baku?</li>
<li>Does holding the bishops’ assembly abroad signal escalation, defensive adaptation, or both?</li>
<li>What is “Strong Armenia,” who is it meant to mobilize, and can opposition forces coordinate for June?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/418632-right-as-the-world-goes-is-only-in-question-between">Thucydides quote (Goodreads): “The strong do what they can…”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://alphanews.am/en/convening-episcopal-assembly-outside-armenia-does-not-create-any-anti-canonical-problems-fr-yesayi-artenyan/">Convening Episcopal Assembly outside Armenia does not create any anti-canonical problems – Fr. Yesayi Artenyan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1240164">Church reform council denounces planned bishops’ meeting abroad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://panarmenian.net/m/eng/news/330099">Bishop Hovnan to attend Episcopal Assembly in Austria</a></li>
<li><a href="https://panarmenian.net/m/eng/news/330095">Church defends Vienna summit amid pressure, false claims</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2026/01/25/1535518">«Մուտքս չէր խոչընդոտվում, բայց իրենք ուզում էին, որ ներս մտնեմ ու մեկն էր ուզում, որ կաթողիկոսին չհիշատակեմ». Տեր Հայկ (Aravot)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2026/01/06/1532300/">«Տեղում որ ասում էի, որ կաթողիկոսին պետք է հիշատակեմ, սկսեցին անհանգստանալ, որ ժողովրդի վրա ազդում է». Տեր Հայկ (Aravot)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1240372">11 persons voluntarily relocate from Karabakh to Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=896549229630135&amp;set=a.173596301925435">Arsen Torosyan Facebook post (Mar 4, 2019)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33654967.html">«Բոլորին դեմ եմ» շարժումը կուսակցություն է դառնում. կմասնակցի խորհրդարանական ընտրություններին (Azatutyun)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/510/thumbnail-510.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/510/thumbnail-510.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18587463-arthur-khachatryan-army-day-jd-vance-to-armenia-tripp-church-strong-armenia-party-ep-510-jan-25-2026.mp3" length="33061160" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2752</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Erhan Arik - Horovel and The Armenian Genocide | Ep 509, Jan 22, 2026
[EP509]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/509-erhan-arik-turkey-ardahan-genocide-horovel-photo-exhibit-gayan-armenian-diaspora-middle-east-ojakh-diana-mkrtchyan/</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 02:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18551743-erhan-arik-horovel-and-the-armenian-genocide-ep-509-jan-22-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Bedros Afeyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>509</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Erhan Arik - Horovel and The Armenian Genocide | Ep 509, Jan 22, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Critical Corner - Recorded on: January 18, 2026
        
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#### Topics:
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* Our Seeds, continuity across generations
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#### Topics:
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* Ojakh, a second trip down memory lane
* Gayan, a wider regional lens
* Our Seeds, continuity across generations
Episode 509 | Recorded: January 18, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Bedros Afeyan speaks with photographer and photojournalist Erhan Arik about the personal shock that drove him to make <strong>Horovel</strong>, his long-term work with elderly Armenians in Armenia whose families came from historic Armenian regions, and the ethical choices involved in witnessing, listening, and photographing. They then discuss the return journey that became <strong>Ojakh</strong> with Diana Mkrtchyan, how authorship changes when the camera and narrative belong to someone else, and what it means to become a character in another person’s film. The conversation broadens to <strong>Gayan</strong>, Erhan’s Middle East work across several countries, and how Armenian identity, memory, and community adapt across different political and social contexts. They close with Erhan’s current documentary project <strong>Our Seeds (Tohum)</strong>, using the story of an ancient wheat seed tradition as a metaphor for inheritance, rupture, and continuity.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Erhan’s personal entry point into Armenian absence and presence, and why a single “hearth” image became a moral trigger.</li>
<li><strong>Horovel</strong> as a cross-border memory project, and the practical constraints of border zones and trust-building.</li>
<li>The ethics of photojournalism: when the camera helps, when it harms, and how “distance” protects the subject’s story.</li>
<li>A pivotal encounter with Dikranouhi Asadourian, and what consent and agency look like in practice.</li>
<li>Returning years later and re-encountering people as time changes memory, expectations, and responsibility.</li>
<li><strong>Ojakh</strong> as a second trip with a different author, and how Erhan’s role shifts when the film is Diana Mkrtchyan’s.</li>
<li><strong>Gayan</strong> as a wider regional lens, and what remains common across Armenian communities in different countries.</li>
<li><strong>Our Seeds (Tohum)</strong> and “seed” as a non-ideological metaphor for continuity across generations.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ol>
<li>What personal rupture begins a serious body of work, and why does it create an obligation to act?</li>
<li>What does “Horovel” mean in context, and what does that reveal about cultural loss and distortion?</li>
<li>How do you enter a community ethically when your presence can trigger pain, anger, or distrust?</li>
<li>Where is the line between witnessing and taking, and how does a photographer avoid becoming the story?</li>
<li>What changes when you return years later, and how does time reshape both the subject and the documentarian?</li>
<li>What changes when someone else holds authorship, and you move from observer to character?</li>
<li>What is shared across Armenian communities in Armenia and the Middle East, and what is shaped by local politics?</li>
<li>Why frame a regional project around “Gayan” as a gathering and searching point after catastrophe?</li>
<li>What can a “seed” story express about inheritance and survival that memory projects cannot say directly?</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="referenced-in-conversation">Referenced in Conversation</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/GGAEEmieXBM"><strong>Dikranouhi Asadourian</strong> Clip</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.arasyayincilik.com/urun/gayan/"><strong>Gayan</strong></a> (Aras Publishing)</li>
<li><strong>Horovel</strong> (photo project and exhibit)</li>
<li><strong>Ojakh</strong> (documentary project with Diana Mkrtchyan)</li>
<li><strong>Our Seeds</strong> / Tohum (documentary project)</li>
<li><strong>Yearning / Garod</strong> (film referenced as an analogy)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.capuseen.com/films/9253-ojakh-on-the-other-side-of-silence"><strong>Ojakh, on the other side of silence</strong></a> - in original French, with English subtitles.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP508]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/508-sergei-melkonian-syria-iran-unrest-israel-tripp-armenia-parliamentary-elections-june-2026/</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2026 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18542526-sergei-melkonian-syria-iran-unrest-tripp-armenian-parliamentary-elections-ep-508-jan-18-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>508</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Syria, Iran Unrest, TRIPP, Armenian Parliamentary Elections | Ep 508, Jan 18, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Iran Unrest, War Postponed
* TRIPP and sovereignty dispute
* 2026 Elections and Foreign Influence
Episode 508 | Recorded: January 19, 2026
#ArmenianNews #Syria #Iran #ZangezurCorridor #TRIPP #Geopolitics</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 508 | Recorded: January 19, 2026
#ArmenianNews #Syria #Iran #ZangezurCorridor #TRIPP #Geopolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This episode examines major geopolitical shifts affecting Armenia and the wider region, focusing on Syria’s rapidly changing battlefield, the postponed but unresolved Iran war scenario, the growing controversy around the TRIPP corridor, and intensifying foreign involvement ahead of Armenia’s 2026 elections.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h2 id="syria">Syria</h2>
<ul>
<li>Rapid Turkish-backed advances following the apparent U.S. abandonment of Kurdish allies</li>
<li>Pressure on the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) to disarm, integrate into the Syrian army, and extradite PKK members</li>
<li>A serious rollback of Kurdish autonomy in northeast Syria</li>
<li>Strategic implications for Armenia, viewed through historical parallels</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="iran-crisis">Iran Crisis</h2>
<ul>
<li>Externally instigated protests escalating into deadly riots across Iran</li>
<li>The U.S.–Israel–Iran war narrative postponed rather than cooled</li>
<li>Russia reportedly serving as a backchannel to prevent immediate escalation</li>
<li>War hawks framing the debate as limited versus large-scale strikes</li>
<li>Iran’s post-2025 military rebuilding with Russian and Chinese assistance</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="tripp-trap">TRIPP Trap</h2>
<ul>
<li>Protests outside the Iranian embassy in Yerevan and Tehran’s warning signals</li>
<li>Pashinyan dismissing Iranian concerns over anti-Iranian activity in Armenia</li>
<li>New TRIPP agreements signed in Washington emphasizing sovereignty language</li>
<li>Armenia locked into a long-term minority ownership position</li>
<li>Regional consequences of sidelining Iran and Russia</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="elections-2026--foreign-influence">Elections 2026 – Foreign Influence</h2>
<h3 id="turkish-support">Turkish Support</h3>
<ul>
<li>Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan’s public endorsement of Pashinyan</li>
<li>Questions of election interference and geopolitical double standards</li>
<li>Turkey’s potential leverage over Armenia’s political process</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russian-support">Russian Support</h3>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s sharp decline in trade with Russia and increased borrowing</li>
<li>Western and Turkish efforts to marginalize Russia in the South Caucasus</li>
<li>Russia’s continued strategic interests despite the Ukraine war</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why did the U.S. abandon its Kurdish allies in Syria?</li>
<li>What lessons should Armenia draw from the Kurdish experience?</li>
<li>Why was war on Iran postponed, and for how long?</li>
<li>Is Iran militarily prepared for renewed conflict?</li>
<li>How committed are Russia and China to preventing regime change in Iran?</li>
<li>Does TRIPP represent a structural loss of Armenian sovereignty?</li>
<li>Are Iran’s warnings driven by protests or corridor geopolitics?</li>
<li>What is at stake in Armenia’s 2026 parliamentary elections?</li>
<li>How do Russia and Turkey view Pashinyan’s role going forward?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/1/19/syria-live-government-forces-take-control-after-heavy-fighting-with-sdf"><em>Syria live: Government forces take control after heavy fighting with SDF</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33647962.html"><em>Iranian ambassador warns Armenia over protests</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33648959.html"><em>Pashinyan rejects Iranian concerns</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33647278.html"><em>Mirzoyan and Rubio sign TRIPP-related agreements in Washington</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33650776.html"><em>Hakan Fidan comments on Armenia’s elections and Pashinyan</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33646125.html"><em>Armenia–Russia trade decline and borrowing figures</em></a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/508/thumbnail-508.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/508/thumbnail-508.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18542526-sergei-melkonian-syria-iran-unrest-tripp-armenian-parliamentary-elections-ep-508-jan-18-2026.mp3" length="49858528" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4152</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Anna Grigoryan - Armenia’s Political Crisis | Ep 507, Jan 17, 2026
[EP507]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/507-anna-grigoryan-armenia-political-crisis-tripp-pow-hostages-2026-paliamentary-election-attacks-on-church/</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18524610-anna-grigoryan-armenia-s-political-crisis-ep-507-jan-17-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>507</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Grigoryan - Armenia’s Political Crisis | Ep 507, Jan 17, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Pashinyan vs. Church
* TRIPP
* Armenia Parliamentary Election
Episode 507 | Recorded: January 16, 2026
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Episode 507 | Recorded: January 16, 2026
#AnnaGrigoryan #Armenia #ArmenianPolitics #TRIPP #ArmenianChurch #POWs</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna Grigoryan joins us to assess four Armenians returning from Baku amid continued detention of other POWs, the escalating clash between Nikol Pashinyan’s government and the Armenian Apostolic Church, new details around TRIPP after talks in Washington, and what is at stake in Armenia’s June 2026 elections, including opposition strategy and outside influence.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<h3 id="1-return-of-4-hostages">1) Return of 4 Hostages</h3>
<ul>
<li>What the release signals, and why the continued detention of at least 19 Armenians remains the core issue</li>
<li>Criticism of the terms and timing, including concerns about “hostage diplomacy” during negotiations</li>
<li>The reported linkage to Armenia returning two Syrian mercenaries, and Pashinyan’s denial that this was an exchange</li>
<li>Prior precedents of releasing convicted enemy personnel, and what that suggests about state policy and deterrence</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2-pashinyan-vs-church">2) Pashinyan vs. Church</h3>
<ul>
<li>Why the dispute matters beyond personalities, and what it means for church autonomy and state neutrality</li>
<li>Claims of external pressure and the wider pattern of state control over institutions</li>
<li>Legal and constitutional questions raised by government and security-service involvement</li>
<li>Political implications, including polling signals about social cohesion and trusted public figures</li>
<li>Possible offramps that reduce social tension without granting blanket impunity</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="3-tripp">3) TRIPP</h3>
<ul>
<li>What the Washington agreements suggest about the project’s logistics and direction</li>
<li>How TRIPP overlaps with the November 2020 ceasefire framework, with a different external sponsor</li>
<li>Likely effects on Russia and Iran’s interests, and how they might respond</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="4-upcoming-elections-june-2026">4) Upcoming Elections (June 2026)</h3>
<ul>
<li>What is at stake, and which themes may drive the campaign, including Artsakh</li>
<li>Why opposition ratings trail the ruling party, and what it would take to win</li>
<li>Hayastan Dashinq’s record over the past five years, including strengths and gaps</li>
<li>Debate over “new faces” versus “formers,” and what that means for coalition-building</li>
<li>Alliance options (Mer Dzevov, Wings of Unity), and Anna Grigoryan’s own plans</li>
<li>External signaling, including claims of Turkish and EU support for Pashinyan</li>
<li>Whether Russia still views Pashinyan as an “acceptable” outcome, and what may have changed since 2021</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<h3 id="return-of-4-hostages">Return of 4 Hostages</h3>
<ul>
<li>How should Armenia read the timing and intent of these releases?</li>
<li>Do you expect more releases before June 2026, and on what terms?</li>
<li>If this was not an exchange, why did the releases line up the same day?</li>
<li>What message does prior prisoner release policy send to Baku, and to Armenian society?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyan-vs-church">Pashinyan vs. Church</h3>
<ul>
<li>Is this driven by geopolitics, domestic politics, or personal conflict?</li>
<li>Why has the opposition not pursued impeachment or Constitutional Court action for alleged unconstitutional conduct?</li>
<li>What negotiated offramps could cool the conflict?</li>
<li>How can society restore harmony without rewarding abuses by any side?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="tripp">TRIPP</h3>
<ul>
<li>How strong is the deal Armenia’s team negotiated with the Trump administration?</li>
<li>What are the second-order effects for Russia and Iran, and how might they push back?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="june-2026-elections">June 2026 Elections</h3>
<ul>
<li>What are the core stakes, and will Artsakh become a defining issue?</li>
<li>What must the broad opposition spectrum do differently to compete?</li>
<li>What should we expect in Hayastan Dashinq’s makeup as elections near?</li>
<li>Has external support for Pashinyan changed since 2021, and how does Russia factor now?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://csi-usa.org/azerbaijan-releases-four-armenian-hostages-in-incomplete-exchange/?fbclid=IwY2xjawPXICdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEe2Jy8HplfIJNUpIObL7IfsxaeoS_jW_2RQPGoJUlfS-BK88C-8Bti9JjUwbc_aem_lIFumBTSY6KGreNM0VDedw">Christian Solidarity International: “Azerbaijan releases four Armenian hostages in incomplete exchange”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/ankara-just-endorsed-pashinyan-for-the-june-elections/">California Courier: “Ankara Just Endorsed Pashinyan for the June Elections”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/hOIoNWlLFo0?si=nJLGv28hBQBCxLPR">Ishkhan Saghatelyan press conference (YouTube)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP506]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/506-pietro-shakarian-iranian-protests-alliance-with-russia-usa-armenia-tripp-azerbaijan-israel-alliance/</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2026 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18521641-pietro-shakarian-iran-russia-and-the-geopolitics-of-post-soviet-eurasia-ep-506-jan-16-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>506</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - Iran, Russia, and the Geopolitics of Post-Soviet Eurasia | Ep 506, Jan 16, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: January 14, 2026
        
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#### Topics:
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* Solovyov’s Statements
* Trump’s “TRIPP Wire” in the Caucasus
* Release of Armenian hostages
Episode 506 | Recorded on January 14, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 506 | Recorded on January 14, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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* Russia-Iran Partnership
* Solovyov’s Statements
* Trump’s “TRIPP Wire” in the Caucasus
* Release of Armenian hostages
Episode 506 | Recorded on January 14, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, historian Dr. Pietro Shakarian joins us to look at the riot-level unrest in Iran, Trump’s threats and pressure tactics, and what this could mean for Russia–Iran coordination, Armenia’s security environment, and corridor politics in the South Caucasus, including TRIPP. They also discuss Vladimir Solovyov’s recent comments on Armenia and post-Soviet Eurasia, then close with the release of four Armenian hostages from Azerbaijani captivity and what it may signal.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main topics addressed</h1>
<h2 id="unrest-in-iran">Unrest in Iran</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is driving the protests and violence, given limited reliable reporting and internet shutdowns</li>
<li>The roles of sanctions, economic hardship, diaspora messaging, and covert influence narratives</li>
<li>Trump’s public messaging and threats, and how they change Iran’s threat perception</li>
<li>Why Tehran may lean more on Russia and China under pressure</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russiairan-partnership">Russia–Iran partnership</h2>
<ul>
<li>How the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership has evolved since it was signed</li>
<li>Post–June war rebuilding: air defense and missile stockpiles, and the role of suppliers</li>
<li>How diplomatic coordination (including the Araghchi–Lavrov engagement) fits into the larger trend</li>
<li>What a destabilized Iran would mean for Eurasian alignments, including BRICS, and for China’s role</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russias-posture-beyond-ukraine-and-solovyovs-statements">Russia’s posture beyond Ukraine and Solovyov’s statements</h2>
<ul>
<li>Whether Moscow now has more bandwidth for the South Caucasus and Central Asia</li>
<li>What Russia might do if the US or Israel strikes Iran again, beyond standard statements</li>
<li>How to interpret Solovyov’s rhetoric on Armenia and post-Soviet Eurasia</li>
<li>Whether this signals that Moscow’s patience with Pashinyan is fading</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="trumps-tripp-wire-in-the-caucasus">Trump’s “TRIPP wire” in the Caucasus</h2>
<ul>
<li>Iran’s red lines on Armenia’s sovereignty over Syunik, and how an Iran crisis could affect enforcement</li>
<li>How Iran might read TRIPP’s “implementation framework” and Marco Rubio’s statements</li>
<li>The impact of protests at the Iranian Embassy in Yerevan on Armenia–Iran relations</li>
<li>What it means when US figures call on Azerbaijan to “be ready”</li>
<li>Whether TRIPP pulls Israel deeper into the regional contest, and Armenia’s recent posture toward Israel</li>
<li>Worst-case implications for Armenia if a joint US–Israeli strike on Iran proves devastating</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="release-of-armenian-hostages">Release of Armenian hostages</h2>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan’s release of four captives (Viken Euljekjian, Vagif Khachatryan, Gevorg Sujyan, David Davtyan)</li>
<li>How to assess the move for Armenia and the region</li>
<li>Whether the timing connects to Iran or TRIPP dynamics</li>
<li>The status of remaining Armenian captives in Baku</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key questions discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Are Iran’s protests organic, opportunistic, externally curated, or a mix?</li>
<li>What role do internet shutdowns and information warfare play in shaping perceptions?</li>
<li>Does unrest push Tehran and Moscow closer, and around which shared threats?</li>
<li>Which areas of Russia–Iran cooperation become urgent under domestic instability (military-technical, drones, ISR)?</li>
<li>What would a destabilized Iran mean for the Eurasian balance, including BRICS?</li>
<li>What role does China play as partner, supplier, or broker?</li>
<li>If the US or Israel hits Iran, does Russia respond with more than condemnation?</li>
<li>Do Solovyov’s comments suggest a harder Russian line toward Armenia’s current government?</li>
<li>Can Iran enforce its South Caucasus red lines while under internal strain?</li>
<li>How might Iran perceive TRIPP’s rollout and US messaging around it?</li>
<li>Do protests in front of the Iranian Embassy in Yerevan change Armenia–Iran risk?</li>
<li>Does TRIPP increase Armenia’s exposure to confrontation with Iran?</li>
<li>Why did Azerbaijan release four captives now, and what does it signal?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="links--references">Links &amp; References</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://therealistreview.substack.com/p/russo-iranian-relations-amid-the">Russo-Iranian Relations Amid the Rise of the Rest</a> (Realist Review, Pietro Shakarian)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733">Mossad spurs Iran protests, says agents with demonstrators in Farsi message</a> (The Jerusalem Post)</li>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115888317758045915">Donald Trump Truth Social post (linked in outline)</a> (Truth Social)</li>
<li><a href="https://tritaparsi.substack.com">Trita Parsi on Substack</a> (Substack)</li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/LukeDCoffey/status/2010136119220842985">Luke Coffey post (linked in outline)</a> (X)</li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/179234">Azerbaijan Releases Four Armenian Captives</a> (Hetq)</li>
<li><a href="https://iupress.org/9780253073556/anastas-mikoyan/">Anastas Mikoyan: An Armenian Reformer in Khrushchev’s Kremlin</a> (Indiana University Press)</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP505]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/505-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-ukraine-iran-baku-pogroms-armenian-church-clash/</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18510123-arthur-martirosyan-ukraine-iran-baku-pogroms-armenian-church-crisis-ep-505-jan-11-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>505</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Martirosyan - Ukraine, Iran, Baku Pogroms, Church Clash | Ep 505, Jan 11, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war’s global cost to Russia
* Iran unrest and war risk
* Remembering the Baku pogroms
* Russia-Armenia tensions and media threats
* Pashinyan’s clash with Armenian Church
Episode 505 | Recorded: January 13, 2026</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war’s global cost to Russia
* Iran unrest and war risk
* Remembering the Baku pogroms
* Russia-Armenia tensions and media threats
* Pashinyan’s clash with Armenian Church
Episode 505 | Recorded: January 13, 2026</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war’s global cost to Russia
* Iran unrest and war risk
* Remembering the Baku pogroms
* Russia-Armenia tensions and media threats
* Pashinyan’s clash with Armenian Church
Episode 505 | Recorded: January 13, 2026</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Recorded on January 13, 2026, this Week in Review episode with Arthur Martirosyan examines how the prolonged Ukraine war has reshaped Russia’s leverage and long-term strategy, why a US–Israel–Iran confrontation now appears increasingly likely, and how Iran’s internal unrest and external pressure could open new risks for Armenia. The discussion also marks the anniversary of the Baku pogroms, reflecting on their long-term consequences, before turning to Russia–Armenia tensions and Nikol Pashinyan’s escalating confrontation with the Armenian Apostolic Church.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<h2 id="ukraine-war">Ukraine War</h2>
<ul>
<li>Arthur frames the war as a broader confrontation with the West over post–Cold War security architecture, not merely a Russia–Ukraine conflict.</li>
<li>He argues Ukraine cannot achieve a decisive military victory, and that the key issue is where the war stops and whether Russia can “win the peace.”</li>
<li>Sanctions, technology denial, and drone warfare are highlighted as decisive factors, with Sloviansk and Kramatorsk discussed as major operational focal points.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-war">Iran War</h2>
<ul>
<li>The discussion treats the US–Israel–Iran triangle as fundamentally zero-sum, with little room for negotiated settlement absent regime change in Tehran.</li>
<li>Arthur argues Israel’s objectives extend beyond the nuclear file to weakening Iran’s regional posture and triggering internal implosion.</li>
<li>The panel discusses unrest, economic pressure, internet shutdowns, psychological operations, and potential spillover risks for Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="january-13-1990-baku-pogroms">January 13, 1990: Baku Pogroms</h2>
<ul>
<li>Arthur argues the pogroms locked the conflict into a zero-sum trajectory and closed off any remaining space for a negotiated Karabakh settlement at the time.</li>
<li>He connects the pogroms directly to the later trajectory that culminated in the depopulation of Artsakh and rejects claims that the Artsakh movement was a mistake.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russiaarmenia-relations">Russia–Armenia Relations</h2>
<ul>
<li>Solovyov’s rhetoric is framed as part of a broader “spheres of influence” worldview rather than an immediate operational threat.</li>
<li>Arthur argues Russia lacks an attractive development model or modern soft power, limiting its influence tools to trade leverage and coercive rhetoric.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-vs-armenian-church">Pashinyan vs. Armenian Church</h2>
<ul>
<li>Arthur describes the conflict as values-driven and externally shaped, aimed at bringing the Church under state control and weakening diaspora-linked influence.</li>
<li>He argues that meaningful off-ramps are unlikely while Pashinyan remains in power, citing police protection of renegade clergy and direct state interference as unconstitutional.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<h2 id="ukraine-war-1">Ukraine War</h2>
<ul>
<li>How should Russia’s four-year foreign policy trajectory be understood, and what is Moscow buying with time?</li>
<li>What kind of post-war security architecture does Russia seek, and how does it plan to force negotiations?</li>
<li>What military inflection points could accelerate or slow the conflict?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-war-1">Iran War</h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the real objectives of a renewed confrontation: regime change, nuclear rollback, or broader strategic reset?</li>
<li>Do the protests and unrest appear organic, opportunistic, or externally amplified?</li>
<li>What would Trump’s proposed 25 percent tariff on Iran-linked trade mean for Armenia’s economy and logistics?</li>
<li>Could escalation increase Azerbaijan’s strategic value and create new risks for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="baku-pogroms">Baku Pogroms</h2>
<ul>
<li>What did the pogroms change about the conflict’s logic, and why did they foreclose negotiated outcomes?</li>
<li>How should Armenians assess proposals to “close” the Artsakh issue in exchange for Azerbaijani concessions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russiaarmenia-relations-1">Russia–Armenia Relations</h2>
<ul>
<li>How should Armenia interpret Russian media threats, and what do they reveal about Moscow’s real capabilities?</li>
<li>What does Russia’s lack of a compelling development model imply for Armenia’s strategic options?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-vs-armenian-church-1">Pashinyan vs. Armenian Church</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is there any negotiated path that restores social cohesion without granting blanket impunity?</li>
<li>Are we already facing a durable schism within the Armenian Apostolic Church?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115888317758045915">Trump TruthSocial post urging protests in Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/LukeDCoffey/status/2010136119220842985">Luke Coffey tweet: “Be prepared 🇦🇿”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://khosq.am/2025/06/20/%d5%b0%d5%a1%d5%a5%d5%b6-138/">NGO statement urging ban of Russian state TV</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1239449">Armenpress: Increased Azerbaijani petroleum imports</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33646288.html">Azatutyun: Police protection of renegade bishop / church standoff</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Warns that the Iran crisis highlights large-scale psychological operations online, including bot amplification and platform-level signaling, and says he will not renew his X subscription.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Argues that Pashinyan’s challenge to judicial independence reflects a broader attack on republican governance and warns that Armenia is drifting toward a weak authoritarian system unable to withstand major external shocks.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/505/thumbnail-505.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/505/thumbnail-505.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18510123-arthur-martirosyan-ukraine-iran-baku-pogroms-armenian-church-crisis-ep-505-jan-11-2026.mp3" length="50002826" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4164</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Kevork Hagopjian - Armenia’s Church-State Showdown | Ep 504, Jan 13, 2026
[EP504]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/504-kevork-hagopjian-state-hunts-church-armenias-rule-of-law-church-state-crackdown-etchmiadzin-religious-freedom-human-rights/</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 02:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18503607-kevork-hagopjian-armenia-s-church-state-showdown-ep-504-jan-13-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>504</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Kevork Hagopjian - Armenia’s Church-State Showdown | Ep 504, Jan 13, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* The Legal Architecture: Autonomy, Exclusive Mission, and State Neutrality
* Engineering Parallel, Schismatic Structures
* Criminal Law as Leverage
* Bern in Action and Reaction
* The Deeper Stakes: National Identity
Episode 504 | Recorded: January 12, 2026
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* Engineering Parallel, Schismatic Structures
* Criminal Law as Leverage
* Bern in Action and Reaction
* The Deeper Stakes: National Identity
Episode 504 | Recorded: January 12, 2026
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* Engineering Parallel, Schismatic Structures
* Criminal Law as Leverage
* Bern in Action and Reaction
* The Deeper Stakes: National Identity
Episode 504 | Recorded: January 12, 2026
#Armenia #ArmenianChurch #Etchmiadzin #HumanRights #ReligiousFreedom</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Kevork Hagopjian joins us to explain his thesis that Armenia’s current church-state standoff is a rule-of-law test. We discuss what the Constitution and international human-rights law require, why executive pressure on Etchmiadzin crosses a legal bright line, and how prosecutions, detentions, and scandal narratives can become tools of institutional control. We also examine the Bern conference on Artsakh, foreign pressure and narrative management, and the longer-term risk that a playbook used against the Church can later be applied to other independent institutions in Armenia.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s constitutional framework on religion</li>
<li>State neutrality and church autonomy</li>
<li>Executive pressure to unseat the Catholicos</li>
<li>Efforts to cultivate “alternative” clergy structures</li>
<li>Selective prosecution and pretrial detention practices</li>
<li>The “intimate video” scandal as a due-process test</li>
<li>Bern conference on Artsakh and regional blowback</li>
<li>ECHR and other international legal remedies</li>
<li>Risks of broader institutional subordination</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<h2 id="autonomy-exclusive-mission-and-state-neutrality">Autonomy, Exclusive Mission, and State Neutrality</h2>
<ul>
<li>What does “state neutrality” require the government to do, and to not do?</li>
<li>How do “separation” and “exclusive mission” fit together legally, what do they authorize and not authorize?</li>
<li>If the government says it is only exercising free speech, when does speech become state interference?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="engineering-parallel-schismatic-structures">Engineering Parallel, Schismatic Structures</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the legal line between meeting clergy and promoting an internal church split?</li>
<li>Are we already past the point of “alternative authority” creation, and what does that imply?</li>
<li>Is this conflict used to distract from broader failures, and can society afford to ignore it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="criminal-law-as-leverage">Criminal Law as Leverage</h2>
<ul>
<li>What evidence would show these cases are ordinary law enforcement rather than selective criminalization?</li>
<li>How should courts apply pretrial detention standards in politically sensitive clerical cases?</li>
<li>At what point does the accumulation of “plausible” cases become evidence of abuse?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-intimate-video">The Intimate Video</h2>
<ul>
<li>What minimum forensic steps should be required before officials label material “confirmed”?</li>
<li>How do you separate lawful privacy enforcement from political exploitation of scandal?</li>
<li>If church discipline is slow or opaque, what can the state lawfully do, and what can it never do?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="bern-in-action-and-reaction">Bern in Action and Reaction</h2>
<ul>
<li>What makes timing and causality legally relevant, and what alternative explanations should be tested?</li>
<li>Where is the boundary between protected advocacy on Artsakh and impermissible incitement?</li>
<li>If foreign actors amplify anti-church narratives, what lawful state response preserves neutrality?</li>
<li>What recourse exists through international courts (including ECHR), and what can they realistically deliver?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-deeper-stakes-national-identity">The Deeper Stakes: National Identity</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the larger institutional risk, what is being “re-architected”?</li>
<li>Which global comparisons help (Poland, Bulgaria, Israel, Latin America), and which mislead?</li>
<li>What guardrails prevent a slide toward a state-aligned “patriotic church” model?</li>
<li>What does a clean off-ramp look like that restores trust without granting blanket impunity?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/when-the-state-hunts-a-church-armenias-steady-break-with-the-rule-of-law/">When the State Hunts a Church: Armenia’s Steady Break with the Rule of Law</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237044">Pashinyan’s “vision of reforming” the church (Armenpress)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2026/01/06/refutation-of-a-false-premise/">Refutation of a False Premise (Mirror-Spectator)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tert.am/am/news/2026/01/10/gevorg-saroyan/4256269">Vehapar dismisses Bishop Gevork Saroyan (tert.am)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/329216">Pashinyan says he does not recognize Saroyan’s dismissal (armtimes.com)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33642379.html">Abp. Ajapahyan to appeal to the ECHR (Azatutyun)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP503]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/503-serop-azarian-armenian-church-under-attack-by-state/</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18488367-fr-serop-azarian-armenian-church-under-attack-ep-503-jan-11-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>503</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Fr. Serop Azarian - Armenian Church Under Attack | Ep 503, Jan 11, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - January 11, 2026
        
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#### Topics:
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* Renegade Bishops: Demands and Narratives
* Stolen Church Property
* From Christmas to Easter
Episode 503 | Recorded: January 9, 2026
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* Renegade Bishops: Demands and Narratives
* Stolen Church Property
* From Christmas to Easter
Episode 503 | Recorded: January 9, 2026
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* Renegade Bishops: Demands and Narratives
* Stolen Church Property
* From Christmas to Easter
Episode 503 | Recorded: January 9, 2026
#ArmenianApostolicChurch #ArmenianChurch #Garegin #Catholicos #NikolPashinyan #ArmenianDiaspora</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="episode-503-synopsis">Episode 503 Synopsis</h2>
<p>Father Serop Azarian joins us to discuss Nikol Pashinyan’s escalating confrontation with the Armenian Apostolic Church, and what it may signal ahead of 2026. We examine the narratives used to justify state pressure on the Church, the role of “renegade” bishops and canon-law claims, and the practical stakes around Church property and independence. The episode closes with a short reflection on the Church calendar, from Theophany to Easter.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>The shift from a tense but functional Church-state relationship to an open political campaign against the Catholicos and senior clergy</li>
<li>Whether the attack is driven by geopolitics, personal vendetta, or both, and how it connects to 2026 political planning</li>
<li>The “reform roadmap” and what it would change (leadership, naming, governance, and state leverage)</li>
<li>The “renegade” bishops: their statements, internal hierarchy, and what their participation changes inside the Church</li>
<li>Canon law: how it works today, who has authority to change it, and what a state-driven rewrite would mean</li>
<li>Stolen or unrestituted Church property, and how property access shapes Church capacity and independence</li>
<li>The meaning of Theophany and Easter in Armenian life</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What stage is Pashinyan setting for 2026 in his confrontation with the Church?</li>
<li>Is the driver geopolitics, personal vendetta, or an attempt to rewrite recent history?</li>
<li>What is implied by renaming the “Armenian Apostolic Church” to the “Apostolic Church of Armenia”?</li>
<li>Why is Archbishop Hovnan Derderian consistently listed first, and what does that signal?</li>
<li>What do we know about the moral standing and public record of the bishops making morality-based demands?</li>
<li>What is the current canon-law framework, how can it be changed, and what standing does the state have in that process?</li>
<li>What would be the real effect of a new canon law aligned with the government’s agenda?</li>
<li>How does this split affect quorum, governance, and the national episcopal council?</li>
<li>What is the impact of the Church lacking access to historic property and land?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li>Swiss Peace Initiative summit in Bern (Catholicos remarks): <a href="https://www.kron4.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/816359399/swiss-peace-initiative-for-nagorno-karabakh-launched-in-bern/">https://www.kron4.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/816359399/swiss-peace-initiative-for-nagorno-karabakh-launched-in-bern/</a></li>
<li>Azerbaijani religious figure claim on Armenian holy sites: <a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/azerbaijans-islamic-sheikh-calls-etchmiadzin-historical-azerbaijani-land/">https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/azerbaijans-islamic-sheikh-calls-etchmiadzin-historical-azerbaijani-land/</a></li>
<li>Anna Hakobyan post targeting clergy: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/wifeofarmenianPM/posts/pfbid0GN57zVZmxpzVB9wUTG1PKELHoL2zLRkxAH7xhHkjDaxjdgDs6WtUoSwjnY3Mr4uPl">https://www.facebook.com/wifeofarmenianPM/posts/pfbid0GN57zVZmxpzVB9wUTG1PKELHoL2zLRkxAH7xhHkjDaxjdgDs6WtUoSwjnY3Mr4uPl</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP502]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/502-fyodor-lukyanov-venezuela-greenland-ukraine-iran-israel-tripp-armenia-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18482449-fyodor-lukyanov-russia-in-evolving-global-geopolitics-ep-502-jan-9-2026.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>502</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Fyodor Lukyanov - Russia in Evolving Global Geopolitics | Ep 502, Jan 9, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* TRIPP and Russian-Armenian Relations
Episode 502 | Recorded: January 8, 2026
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Episode 502 | Recorded: January 8, 2026
#FyodorLukyanov #RussiaGeopolitics #UkraineWar #IranIsrael #VenezuelaCrisis #TRIPP</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Fyodor Lukyanov joins Groong to discuss how Moscow reads a fast-shifting global landscape, from the U.S. raid in Venezuela and maritime seizures at sea, to Trump’s Greenland rhetoric, the stalled endgame in Ukraine, the likelihood of a renewed Israel-Iran war, and how TRIPP and “unblocking” disputes in Armenia’s south fit into Russia’s regional priorities.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Venezuela, U.S. power projection, and what Russia can (and cannot) do in response</li>
<li>Greenland and U.S. territorial rhetoric, viewed from Moscow</li>
<li>Ukraine war endgame, Europe’s posture, and Russia-West negotiations</li>
<li>Russia-Iran relations after the June 2025 Israel-Iran war, and prospects of a second round</li>
<li>TRIPP, “Zangezur Corridor,” Nov. 2020 point 9, and Russia’s expectations in Armenia’s south</li>
<li>Armenia’s June elections and foreign influence narratives</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<h2 id="venezuela">Venezuela</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is Russia’s perspective on the U.S. abduction of Nicolás Maduro?</li>
<li>How does Moscow interpret “our hemisphere” thinking and open U.S. coercion?</li>
<li>What is Russia’s reaction to U.S. and UK-backed seizures of Russian-flagged tankers at sea?</li>
<li>Are there parallels between U.S. claims in the Americas and Russia’s position on Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="greenland">Greenland</h2>
<ul>
<li>Does Moscow see Trump’s Greenland rhetoric as serious, or as political theater?</li>
<li>Does Greenland matter to Russia’s Arctic security calculus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ukraine-war">Ukraine war</h2>
<ul>
<li>Why is the war still going on as it approaches year four?</li>
<li>Where do Russia-West negotiations stand right now?</li>
<li>Does Putin see Trump as negotiating in good faith?</li>
<li>What would “closure” actually require, and what are the realistic off-ramps?</li>
<li>Has the war made Russia more dependent on China, and did it open space for the West in places like the South Caucasus and Central Asia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-and-iran">Russia and Iran</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is a second Israel-Iran war inevitable, and is Iran more prepared this time?</li>
<li>Has the Venezuela episode changed Russia’s calculus on how far it should go to help Iran?</li>
<li>If Russia will not intervene militarily, what non-military tools does it still have?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="tripp-and-russian-armenian-relations">TRIPP and Russian-Armenian relations</h2>
<ul>
<li>What does Russia expect regarding east-west “unblocking” in Armenia’s south and the wider “Middle Corridor” debate?</li>
<li>Why might Russia be re-engaging in the South Caucasus now?</li>
<li>How important is the Armenia-Iran border and the north-south corridor to Russia’s interests?</li>
<li>Does TRIPP risk inserting U.S. or Israeli assets near Iran, and does Moscow view that as a strategic problem?</li>
<li>How does Russia view disputes around Russian Railways and Armenia’s rail concession?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-elections">Armenian elections</h2>
<ul>
<li>Does the outcome of Armenia’s June elections matter to Russia?</li>
<li>How does Russia view EU-funded programs framed as countering “foreign influence,” especially “Russian influence”?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan’s administration still a workable partner for Moscow?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/01/1166698">US actions in Venezuela ‘constitute a dangerous precedent’: Guterres</a> <em>(news.un.org)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://press.un.org/en/2026/sc16271.doc.htm">United States Action in Venezuela Puts Sovereignty of States, International Law at Stake, Many Speakers Tell Security Council (SC/16271)</a> <em>(press.un.org)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-confirms-military-support-for-u-s-seizure-of-tanker/">UK confirms military support for U.S. seizure of tanker</a> <em>(ukdefencejournal.org.uk)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2026/01/06/robust-security-guarantees-for-a-solid-and-lasting-peace-in-ukraine-statement-of-the-coalition-of-the-willing-issued-by-france/">Paris Declaration: “Robust Security Guarantees for a Solid and Lasting Peace in Ukraine,” statement of the Coalition of the Willing issued by France</a> <em>(consilium.europa.eu)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33641496.html">Aliyev Confident About ‘Zangezur Corridor’ Through Armenia</a> <em>(azatutyun.am)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33632866.html">Pashinian Insists On Repairs Of Armenia’s Rail Links With Azerbaijan, Turkey</a> <em>(azatutyun.am)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33623764.html">Armenian Government Seeks Pre-Election ‘Help’ From EU</a> <em>(azatutyun.am)</em></li>
</ul>
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Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>501</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Venezuela, Attacks on the Armenian Church Continue, MPG Poll Results | Ep 501, Jan 4, 2026</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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Episode 501 | Recorded: January 6, 2026
#VenezuelaCrisis #ArmenianChurch #MPGPoll #ArmeniaEconomy #Geopolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>In this first Week in Review of 2026, we&rsquo;re joined by Hrant Mikaelian as we examine three developments shaping Armenia’s political environment and regional context. We begin with the unprecedented U.S. abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and the implications for international law and smaller states. We then turn to the escalating confrontation between the Armenian government and the Armenian Apostolic Church, including renewed efforts to restructure the Church ahead of 2026. We conclude with a detailed review of the latest MPG poll results and an assessment of Armenia’s economic performance and rising national debt in 2025.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="developments-in-venezuela">Developments in Venezuela</h1>
<p>The United States carried out a special forces operation in Caracas that resulted in the abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from his official residence. The operation was widely condemned as a violation of international law, while several Western leaders publicly welcomed the outcome. Acting President Delcy Rodriguez signaled conditional cooperation with Washington, amid reports that elements within the Venezuelan leadership may have coordinated with the U.S. through intermediaries.</p>
<p>China and Russia criticized the operation and called for emergency discussions at the UN Security Council, but neither appears prepared to intervene directly. The episode raises fundamental questions about the collapse of international legal norms and the strategic logic behind Washington’s move.</p>
<p><strong>Key questions discussed:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is international law effectively dead?</li>
<li>Will Russia and China respond meaningfully, or accept the precedent?</li>
<li>Could Venezuela become part of a broader geopolitical trade-off, such as Ukraine?</li>
<li>What lessons should Armenia draw from this incident?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="attacks-on-the-armenian-apostolic-church-continue">Attacks on the Armenian Apostolic Church Continue</h1>
<p>Christmas Day in Armenia unfolded amid heightened tension as state media ignored the official Christmas Mass in Etchmiadzin, while Pashinyan attended a parallel service led by renegade clergy. Days earlier, the Prime Minister and a small group of bishops released a renewed “roadmap” for Church reform, including removing the Catholicos, appointing a vicar, renaming the Church, and imposing new governance mechanisms.</p>
<p>Critics argue this mirrors the government’s earlier approach to the judiciary and reflects either a personal vendetta or a broader attempt to neutralize an independent national institution ahead of the 2026 elections.</p>
<p><strong>Key questions discussed:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What political stage is being set for 2026 between the state and the Church?</li>
<li>Why have a small number of bishops sided with the government?</li>
<li>Is this campaign driven by geopolitics, personal grievance, or power consolidation?</li>
<li>Are these reforms genuine or punitive?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="mpg-poll-analysis">MPG Poll Analysis</h1>
<h2 id="methodology">Methodology</h2>
<p>The MPG poll was conducted using CATI methodology with a sample of 1,000 respondents and a margin of error of approximately ±3 percent. The survey captures public attitudes toward national direction, social cohesion, trust in institutions, and political participation.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-3--most-important-issues-facing-armenia">Slide 3 – Most Important Issues Facing Armenia</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-03.webp" alt="MPG Slide 3"  title="Slide 3: Most important issues facing Armenia" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>National security remains the top concern for respondents, followed by high expenses and low wages, the overall state of the economy, unemployment, and inflation. The dominance of security and economic issues suggests persistent public anxiety despite official narratives of peace and economic growth.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-4--direction-of-the-country">Slide 4 – Direction of the Country</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-04.webp" alt="MPG Slide 4"  title="Slide 4: Is Armenia going in the right direction or wrong direction?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>A plurality of respondents believe Armenia is moving in the wrong direction. Only a minority feel the country is on the right track, reinforcing perceptions of stagnation and uncertainty.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-5--public-mood-in-recent-months">Slide 5 – Public Mood in Recent Months</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-05.webp" alt="MPG Slide 5"  title="Slide 5: Public Mood in Armenia" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>More than 60 percent of respondents describe the political situation as “very tense” or “rather tense.” Only a small fraction report calm conditions. This aligns with visible polarization, elite conflict, and the state–Church confrontation.</p>
<p><strong>Discussion points:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the consequences of prolonged societal tension?</li>
<li>How does this square with the government’s “peace agenda”?</li>
<li>Why has poverty remained high after eight years in power?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="slides-67--the-voice-of-the-people">Slides 6–7 – The Voice of the People</h2>
<h3 id="slide-6--ability-to-influence-decisions">Slide 6 – Ability to Influence Decisions</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-06.webp" alt="MPG Slide 6"  title="Slide 6: Can people influence decisions in Armenia?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>A slim majority believe they can influence political decisions, while a large minority feel powerless. This points to mixed civic confidence.</p>
<h3 id="slide-7--fear-of-expressing-opinions">Slide 7 – Fear of Expressing Opinions</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-07.webp" alt="MPG Slide 7"  title="Slide 7: Are people afraid of expressing opinions in Armenia?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Most respondents report they are not afraid to express their views openly, suggesting a degree of social defiance or optimism despite political pressure.</p>
<p><strong>Discussion points:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Will this translate into higher turnout in the June 2026 election?</li>
<li>Could participation alter the political trajectory?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="slides-813--solidarity-and-trust-in-institutions">Slides 8–13 – Solidarity and Trust in Institutions</h2>
<h3 id="slide-8--overall-political-situation">Slide 8 – Overall Political Situation</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-08.webp" alt="MPG Slide 8"  title="Slide 8: Overall political situation in Armenia" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>A majority perceive high polarization, while a significant minority still see harmony and calm.</p>
<h3 id="slide-9--need-for-social-solidarity">Slide 9 – Need for Social Solidarity</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-09.webp" alt="MPG Slide 9"  title="Slide 9: Is there a need to build solidarity in Armenian society?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Nearly 90 percent agree that Armenia needs greater social harmony across political divides.</p>
<h3 id="slide-10--obstacles-to-solidarity">Slide 10 – Obstacles to Solidarity</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-10.webp" alt="MPG Slide 10"  title="Slide 10: Factors that hinder solidarity" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Respondents cite fake news media, lack of social security, political polarization, and low trust in government as the main obstacles. Religious and cultural issues rank much lower.</p>
<h3 id="slide-11--trust-in-institutions">Slide 11 – Trust in Institutions</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-11.webp" alt="MPG Slide 11"  title="Slide 11: Which institutions do you trust?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>The Armenian Church ranks highest in public trust, while the media ranks lowest. Government institutions perform poorly but are not at the bottom.</p>
<h3 id="slides-1213--leadership-for-healing-and-unity">Slides 12–13 – Leadership for Healing and Unity</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/501/poll/mpg-13.webp" alt="MPG Slide 13"  title="Slide 13: Which institutions or individuals can lead to social solidarity?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Respondents express limited confidence in political figures to lead social healing, pointing instead toward institutions outside formal politics.</p>
<p><strong>Discussion points:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does high trust in the Church amid a state–Church conflict reveal?</li>
<li>Is the confrontation politically miscalculated?</li>
<li>What does low trust in media imply when most people consume pro-government outlets?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="armenian-economy-in-2025-januaryoctober">Armenian Economy in 2025 (January–October)</h2>
<p>Against the economic anxiety revealed in the poll, we review findings from the Luys Foundation report. Major underperformance is recorded in capital expenditures, particularly in defense, infrastructure, education, tourism, and digital transformation.</p>
<p>State debt has increased sharply, adding roughly $1.4 billion in nine months and more than doubling since 2018. Despite rising debt, there is little evidence of corresponding capital projects, job creation, or wage growth.</p>
<p><strong>Key questions discussed:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does underperformance affect ordinary citizens?</li>
<li>Should rising national debt be a major concern?</li>
<li>If debt is rising, where is the money going?</li>
<li>What does this say about the efficiency of public administration?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<h3 id="venezuela-us-special-forces-operation-international-reactions">Venezuela, US Special Forces Operation, International Reactions</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/01/04/secret-meetings-point-to-inside-job-to-take-down-maduro/">Secret meetings point to inside job to take down Maduro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/merz-maduro-led-country-ruin-205530442.html">Merz: Maduro led country to ruin (Yahoo)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/2007525386977194040">Emmanuel Macron statement (X)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/PrimeministerGR/status/2007542179368161689">Kyriakos Mitsotakis statement (X)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-reacts-with-condemnation--but-no-threats--as-the-fallout-from-trumps-venezuela-attack-begins-to-ripple-135704617.html">China reacts with condemnation, but no threats (Yahoo Finance)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5670812-russia-calls-un-venezuela-security/">Russia calls UN meeting on Venezuela operation (The Hill)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kossev.info/en/vucic-posle-sednice-saveta-bezbednosti-srbiju-posebno-brine-dalje-naoruzavanje-pristine/">Vučić after Security Council session: “Public international law no longer exists” (KoSSev)</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-church-state-confrontation">Armenia, Church-State Confrontation</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://news.am/arm/news/923603.html">Փաշինյանը հայտարարում է եկեղեցու «բարենորոգման» մեկնարկի մասին</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237044">Pashinyan unveils major reform ‘roadmap’ for Armenian Apostolic Church: New Canon Law and Catholicos election (ARMENPRESS)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33640566.html">Armenian PM Tries To Step Up Pressure On Church Head (Azatutyun)</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-economy-and-public-finance">Armenia, Economy and Public Finance</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/12/11/2327496.htm">Armenian economy and debt discussion source (168.am)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://luys.am/img/artpic/small/d0705cd1318a1601e30c04-%D5%8A%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6.pdf">Luys Foundation quarterly report (PDF)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 500 | Recorded: December 31, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>In this milestone 500th episode of <em>Groong Week in Review</em>, we assess how major external crises are shaping Armenia’s strategic environment in 2025, examine the stalled Armenia–Azerbaijan process, analyze Russia’s posture around TRIPP, and discuss the implications of a change in the U.S. ambassador. The episode concludes with an extended year-end review, where each participant evaluates their 2025 predictions from a year ago (in <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/403">Episode 403</a>), and presents high-, medium-, and low-probability forecasts for 2026.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Foreign crises affecting Armenia’s security environment</li>
<li>The Armenia–Azerbaijan saga and unresolved preconditions</li>
<li>Russia, TRIPP, and regional leverage</li>
<li>Change of U.S. ambassador to Armenia</li>
<li>Year-end review of 2025 and outlook for 2026</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How do the wars in Ukraine and between Israel and Iran constrain Armenia’s options?</li>
<li>What do Azerbaijan’s latest statements reveal about its real conditions for peace?</li>
<li>How does TRIPP affect Russian, Iranian, and regional security calculations?</li>
<li>Is the ambassadorial change a cosmetic move or a policy signal?</li>
<li>How accurate were last year’s forecasts, and what lies ahead in 2026?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="year-end-review-2025-self-assessments">Year-End Review: 2025 Self-Assessments</h1>
<p><strong>Asbed Bedrossian (3/3 correct).</strong><br>
Asbed predicted that the Ukraine war would slow without a decisive resolution, that Gaza would remain a humanitarian catastrophe amid global indifference, and that Armenia would avoid regime collapse while relying on Western loans and accumulating debt. By the end of 2025, all three assessments were borne out.</p>
<p><strong>Hovik Manucharyan (2/3 correct).</strong><br>
Hovik identified Iran as the main regional flashpoint and expected the Ukraine war to slow rather than end, both of which largely materialized. He also warned that Armenia faced no positive trajectory without regime change and that an Azerbaijani attack was a matter of timing, which did not occur in 2025.</p>
<p><strong>Benyamin Poghosyan (3/3 correct).</strong><br>
Benyamin framed Ukraine as the central global variable of 2025, predicted Iran would emerge as the main regional flashpoint, and argued that no genuine Armenia–Azerbaijan peace agreement would be reached. Developments during the year confirmed all three assessments.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="outlook-2026-predictions">Outlook: 2026 Predictions</h1>
<h4 id="benyamin-poghosyan">Benyamin Poghosyan</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High probability:</strong> Continued instability in the South Caucasus, with Azerbaijan preserving escalation leverage rather than finalizing peace.</li>
<li><strong>Medium probability:</strong> A slowdown or freeze in the Ukraine war that allows Russia to redirect attention toward its southern flank, including the South Caucasus and Iran.</li>
<li><strong>Low probability:</strong> A comprehensive and durable Armenia–Azerbaijan peace agreement in 2026.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="hovik-manucharyan">Hovik Manucharyan</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High probability:</strong> Pashinyan remains in power after the 2026 parliamentary elections, including through falsified or heavily managed voting.</li>
<li><strong>Medium probability:</strong> Ongoing political deterioration without decisive regime change.</li>
<li><strong>Low probability:</strong> A clean, competitive election producing a legitimate transfer of power.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="asbed-bedrossian">Asbed Bedrossian</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High probability:</strong> A renewed phase of the Israel–Iran war, with Iran sustaining damage but surviving, and Armenia facing pressure to avoid being used against Iran through projects such as TRIPP.</li>
<li><strong>Medium probability:</strong> Armenia formally exits the CSTO, replaces Russian energy with Azerbaijani supplies, and issues notice for Russia to vacate the 102nd base, triggering severe regional consequences.</li>
<li><strong>Low probability:</strong> Pashinyan loses the June 2026 parliamentary elections, as most strategic concessions are already being achieved without open war.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="links--references">Links &amp; References</h1>
<p><strong>Articles and documents referenced</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/iran-president-war-west-trump-netanyahu-2ef7a55988b80813f6913c8c1835322b">Iran’s president says his country is in a full-scale war with the West</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33635697.html">Armenia, Azerbaijan Still Disagree On ‘Important Issues’</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33630025.html">U.S. Ambassador To Armenia Reportedly Recalled By Trump</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mfa.gov.az/files/file/Yekun-2025/Metbuat%20buraxilisi%20-%202025%20%2826.12.2025%29%20AZ-Yekun.pdf">Azerbaijan MFA: 2025 year-end press release (26.12.2025) (PDF)</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Prior episode referenced</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/403">Episode 403 – Year-End Review &amp; Predictions (2024)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/500/thumbnail-500.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/500/thumbnail-500.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18435729-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-iran-armenia-azerbaijan-russia-tripp-review-outlook-ep-500-dec-28-2025.mp3" length="45797760" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3813</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Diana Mkrtchyan - Ojakh, the Other Side of Silence - a Marvel to Behold | Ep 499, Dec 30, 2025
[EP499]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/499-diana-mkrtchyan-ojakh-documentary-armenian-genocide-memory-erhan-arik-horovel-gaiff-bedros-afeyan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 02:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18430379-diana-mkrtchyan-ojakh-the-other-side-of-silence-a-marvel-to-behold-ep-499-jan-30-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Bedros Afeyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>499</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Diana Mkrtchyan - Ojakh, the Other Side of Silence - a Marvel to Behold | Ep 499, Dec 30, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Critical Corner - Recorded on: December 27, 2025
        
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#### Guest Host:
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#### Guest:
* [Diana Mkrtchyan](/guest/dmkrtchyan)
#### Topics:
- Diana Mkrtchyan’s personal and artistic journey
- The origins of *Ojakh* in Erhan Arik’s photographic work
- Filming the final testimonies of Armenian Genocide survivors
- Ethical and technical challenges of documenting trauma
- The erasure of *Ojakh* from official cultural promotion in Armenia
- Cinema as historical record and moral witness
- Mkrtchyan’s Artsakh footage during the blockade
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#### Guest:
* [Diana Mkrtchyan](/guest/dmkrtchyan)
#### Topics:
- Diana Mkrtchyan’s personal and artistic journey
- The origins of *Ojakh* in Erhan Arik’s photographic work
- Filming the final testimonies of Armenian Genocide survivors
- Ethical and technical challenges of documenting trauma
- The erasure of *Ojakh* from official cultural promotion in Armenia
- Cinema as historical record and moral witness
- Mkrtchyan’s Artsakh footage during the blockade
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#### Guest:
* [Diana Mkrtchyan](/guest/dmkrtchyan)
#### Topics:
- Diana Mkrtchyan’s personal and artistic journey
- The origins of *Ojakh* in Erhan Arik’s photographic work
- Filming the final testimonies of Armenian Genocide survivors
- Ethical and technical challenges of documenting trauma
- The erasure of *Ojakh* from official cultural promotion in Armenia
- Cinema as historical record and moral witness
- Mkrtchyan’s Artsakh footage during the blockade
Episode 499 | Recorded: December 27, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="diana-mkrtchyan--ojakh-on-the-other-side-of-silence">Diana Mkrtchyan – <em>Ojakh: On the Other Side of Silence</em></h1>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/499/Ojakh-movie-info.webp" alt="Ojakh: On the Other Side of Silence"  title="Ojakh: On the Other Side of Silence" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="episode-summary">Episode Summary</h1>
<p>In this episode, guest host Bedros Afeyan speaks with documentary filmmaker Diana Mkrtchyan about her feature documentary <em>Ojakh: On the Other Side of Silence</em>. The conversation traces the film’s nine-year development, its origins in Turkish photographer Erhan Arik’s <em>Horovel</em> project, and the urgent effort to document the last living Armenian Genocide survivors in border villages. The discussion also addresses artistic responsibility, dignity in testimony, cultural memory, censorship, and the continuity between Genocide-era trauma and the recent destruction of Artsakh.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-exchanges-between-bedros-afeyan-and-diana-mkrtchyan">Key Exchanges Between Bedros Afeyan and Diana Mkrtchyan</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Urgency versus production timelines</strong>
Mkrtchyan explains why <em>Ojakh</em> could not follow standard European documentary schedules, as many of the survivors were near the end of their lives. Delay meant permanent loss of testimony.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Dignity over victimhood</strong>
Both stress that the film avoids sentimental framing. Survivors are presented as composed witnesses, not objects of pity.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The role of a Turkish photographer</strong>
Erhan Arik’s presence undermines denial through human encounter rather than argument.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>State silence versus living memory</strong>
Despite minimal institutional support, audiences traveled from border regions to see the film.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>From 1915 to Artsakh</strong>
The discussion draws a direct line between Genocide testimonies and Mkrtchyan’s documentation of Artsakh.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="dianas-top-17-list-of-films">Diana&rsquo;s Top 17 List of Films</h1>
<ol>
<li>Earth - 1930 - Oleksandr Dovzhenko</li>
<li>The Color of Pomegranates - 1969 - Sergei Parajanov</li>
<li>The Commissar - 1967 Alexander Askoldov</li>
<li>⁠Time of the Gypsies — 1988 — Emir Kusturica</li>
<li>⁠Andrei Rublev — 1966 — Andrei Tarkovsky</li>
<li>⁠Silent Light — 2007 — Carlos Reygadas</li>
<li>⁠Under the Sun of Satan — 1987 — Maurice Pialat</li>
<li>⁠Once Upon a Time in Anatolia — 2011 — Nuri Bilge Ceylan</li>
<li>⁠The Color of Paradise — 1999 — Majid Majidi</li>
<li>⁠Eternity and a Day — 1998 — Theo Angelopoulos</li>
<li>⁠No Bears — 2022 — Jafar Panahi</li>
<li>⁠Autumn Sun — 1977 — Bagrat Hovhannisyan</li>
<li>⁠Before, Now &amp; Then — 2022 — Kamila Andini</li>
<li>⁠Beyond the Clouds — 1995 — Michelangelo Antonioni</li>
<li>⁠The Virgin Spring — 1960 — Ingmar Bergman</li>
<li>The Horse of Turin - 2011 - Béla Tarr, Ágnes Hranitzky</li>
<li>The Tree of Life - 2011 - Terrence Malick</li>
</ol>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.capuseen.com/films/9253-ojakh-on-the-other-side-of-silence">Ojakh, on the other side of silence</a> - in original French, with English subtitles.</li>
<li><a href="https://groong.org/tcc">The Critical Corner (TCC) – ANN/Groong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groong.org/tcc/tcc-20251215-bedros-afeyan-ojakh-documentary-diana-mkrtchyan.html">Bedros Afeyan, <em>A Critical Essay on the Movie Ojakh: A Marvel to Behold</em> (Dec 15, 2025)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.depoistanbul.net/en/exhibition-horovel/">Erhan Arik – <em>Horovel</em> Photography Exhibit</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP498]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/498-dziunik-aghajanian-etchmiadzin-church-state-conflict-pashinyan-tripp-peace-dividend-armenia-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 02:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18412651-dziunik-aghajanian-eu-ukraine-rift-church-under-siege-and-tripp-power-games-ep-498-dec-21-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>498</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - EU Ukraine Rift, Church Siege, and TRIPP Power Games | Ep 498, Dec 21, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - December 21, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
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* Siege on Etchmiadzin and the Church
* Peace Dividend or Political Theater
* TRIPP and Competing Power Claims
Episode 498 | Recorded: December 23, 2025
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Episode 498 | Recorded: December 23, 2025
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Episode 498 | Recorded: December 23, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #Etchmiadzin #TRIPP #ArmeniaPolitics #Groong</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this <strong>Groong Week in Review</strong>, Hovik Manucharyan and Asbed Bedrossian are joined by Dziunik Aghajanian to examine a volatile week marked by escalating confrontation between the Armenian state and the Armenian Apostolic Church, deepening fractures inside Europe over the Ukraine war, and controversial developments around Armenia–Azerbaijan trade and regional transport corridors. The discussion focuses on state power, legitimacy, and the geopolitical tradeoffs shaping Armenia’s present and future.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h1>
<h2 id="ukraine-war-update">Ukraine War Update</h2>
<p>Ukraine’s battlefield situation continues to deteriorate, with reports of Ukrainian withdrawals from key positions amid shortages of weapons, manpower, and electricity. European leaders are increasingly divided on how to proceed, as French President Emmanuel Macron shifts toward dialogue with Moscow while blocking German efforts to seize Russian assets for Ukraine and lobbying to restore nuclear fuel cooperation with Russia.</p>
<p>Key developments discussed:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ukraine battlefield setbacks
<a href="https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251223-live-russia-launches-air-attack-on-kyi-after-latest-round-of-peace-talks">https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251223-live-russia-launches-air-attack-on-kyi-after-latest-round-of-peace-talks</a></li>
<li>Macron–Putin dialogue
<a href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/22/ukraine-peace-talks-stall-as-putin-says-ready-for-dialogue-with-macron_6748749_4.html">https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/22/ukraine-peace-talks-stall-as-putin-says-ready-for-dialogue-with-macron_6748749_4.html</a></li>
<li>Macron blocks asset seizure
<a href="https://www.voxnews.al/english/kosovabota/prapaskenat-macron-tradhtoi-merz-in-per-ukrainen-i106907">https://www.voxnews.al/english/kosovabota/prapaskenat-macron-tradhtoi-merz-in-per-ukrainen-i106907</a></li>
<li>Nuclear fuel lobbying
<a href="https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russian-nuclear-energy-rosatom-framatome-germany-eu-trade-economy/">https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russian-nuclear-energy-rosatom-framatome-germany-eu-trade-economy/</a></li>
<li>Assassination of Russian general
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/22/moscow-car-bomb-kills-russian-general">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/22/moscow-car-bomb-kills-russian-general</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="pashinyan-vs-the-catholicos">Pashinyan vs. the Catholicos</h2>
<h3 id="etchmiadzin-under-siege">Etchmiadzin Under Siege</h3>
<p>Following public denials of state involvement, events at Holy Etchmiadzin suggested coordinated pressure against the Armenian Apostolic Church. Ten renegade archbishops attempted to force the Catholicos’s resignation during evening worship, backed by security forces, while large crowds of supporters prevented their entry.</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian Weekly report
<a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2025/12/22/pashinyan-orders-invasion-of-holy-etchmiadzins-sacred-grounds/">https://armenianweekly.com/2025/12/22/pashinyan-orders-invasion-of-holy-etchmiadzins-sacred-grounds/</a></li>
<li>Police and NSS escort details
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33628203.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33628203.html</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-kgb-leak">The KGB “Leak”</h3>
<p>A day later, civic.am published a purportedly declassified KGB document alleging that Archbishop Ezras, the Catholicos’s brother, collaborated with Soviet intelligence in 1986–1988. The document raised major authenticity concerns, including format irregularities, Armenian-language text, and lack of confirmation by the National Security Service.</p>
<ul>
<li>civic.am leak
<a href="https://civic.am/news/107580">https://civic.am/news/107580</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="december-28">December 28</h3>
<p>Media reports claim that Pashinyan plans to personally go to Etchmiadzin on December 28 to force the Catholicos’s removal, marking a potential escalation from indirect pressure to direct confrontation.</p>
<ul>
<li>Media report
<a href="https://24news.am/politics/483159">https://24news.am/politics/483159</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="transport-and-communications">Transport and Communications</h2>
<h3 id="the-peace-dividend">The “Peace Dividend”</h3>
<p>The government promoted the arrival of Azerbaijani fuel to Armenia as the first bilateral commercial transaction in decades, framing it as an early peace dividend under the August 8 Washington framework. Critics questioned the political nature of the deal, Georgia’s one-time transit waiver, lack of formal relations with Azerbaijan, and whether the fuel actually reduces dependence on Russia.</p>
<ul>
<li>Fuel shipment report
<a href="https://asbarez.com/first-shipment-of-azerbaijani-fuel-to-arrive-in-armenia/">https://asbarez.com/first-shipment-of-azerbaijani-fuel-to-arrive-in-armenia/</a></li>
<li>Dependence on Russian imports
<a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azerbaijan-gasoline-russia-imports/33628610.html">https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azerbaijan-gasoline-russia-imports/33628610.html</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trumpripp-vs-putinripp">T(rump)RIPP vs. P(utin)RIPP</h3>
<p>Russia reasserted its claim over transit routes under the November 10, 2020 statement, signaling readiness to participate in the TRIPP project based on rail concessions, border guard presence, and Armenia’s EAEU membership. Pashinyan rejected Russian involvement, insisting TRIPP is a bilateral Armenia–U.S. initiative.</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenpress report
<a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237639">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237639</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Does Europe’s internal division over Ukraine signal a shift toward negotiations with Russia?</li>
<li>Did public resistance at Etchmiadzin represent a rare defeat for Pashinyan?</li>
<li>Is the campaign against the Church legal, political, or personal?</li>
<li>What purpose did the KGB “leak” serve, regardless of authenticity?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijani fuel a genuine peace dividend or political theater?</li>
<li>Can Armenia realistically balance U.S. and Russian interests in TRIPP?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251223-live-russia-launches-air-attack-on-kyi-after-latest-round-of-peace-talks">https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251223-live-russia-launches-air-attack-on-kyi-after-latest-round-of-peace-talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/22/ukraine-peace-talks-stall-as-putin-says-ready-for-dialogue-with-macron_6748749_4.html">https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/12/22/ukraine-peace-talks-stall-as-putin-says-ready-for-dialogue-with-macron_6748749_4.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.voxnews.al/english/kosovabota/prapaskenat-macron-tradhtoi-merz-in-per-ukrainen-i106907">https://www.voxnews.al/english/kosovabota/prapaskenat-macron-tradhtoi-merz-in-per-ukrainen-i106907</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russian-nuclear-energy-rosatom-framatome-germany-eu-trade-economy/">https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russian-nuclear-energy-rosatom-framatome-germany-eu-trade-economy/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/22/moscow-car-bomb-kills-russian-general">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/22/moscow-car-bomb-kills-russian-general</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2025/12/22/pashinyan-orders-invasion-of-holy-etchmiadzins-sacred-grounds/">https://armenianweekly.com/2025/12/22/pashinyan-orders-invasion-of-holy-etchmiadzins-sacred-grounds/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33628203.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33628203.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://civic.am/news/107580">https://civic.am/news/107580</a></li>
<li><a href="https://24news.am/politics/483159">https://24news.am/politics/483159</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/first-shipment-of-azerbaijani-fuel-to-arrive-in-armenia/">https://asbarez.com/first-shipment-of-azerbaijani-fuel-to-arrive-in-armenia/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azerbaijan-gasoline-russia-imports/33628610.html">https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azerbaijan-gasoline-russia-imports/33628610.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237639">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237639</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Archbishop Hovnan Derderian should explain himself. Reflections on interview with Father Serob Azarian
<a href="https://youtu.be/jaOys5ug8VE">https://youtu.be/jaOys5ug8VE</a></li>
<li><strong>Dziunik:</strong> Disrespect for the state and disrespect for the Church.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP497]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/497-spotlight-on-silence-injustice-armenia-political-persecution-article-236-rafael-ishkhanyan-acpr/</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18378433-spotlight-on-silence-injustice-in-armenia-ep-497-dec-18-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>497</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Spotlight on Silence: InJustice in Armenia | Ep 497, Dec 18, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Spotlight on Silence - December 18, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Criminalization of Speech and Dissent in Armenia
* Legal Pressure on Lawyers, Journalists, and Clergy
* Selective Justice and Coordinated Propaganda
* Article 236 and the Policing of Protest
Episode 497 | Recorded: December 14, 2025
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#### Topics:
* Criminalization of Speech and Dissent in Armenia
* Legal Pressure on Lawyers, Journalists, and Clergy
* Selective Justice and Coordinated Propaganda
* Article 236 and the Policing of Protest
Episode 497 | Recorded: December 14, 2025
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#### Topics:
* Criminalization of Speech and Dissent in Armenia
* Legal Pressure on Lawyers, Journalists, and Clergy
* Selective Justice and Coordinated Propaganda
* Article 236 and the Policing of Protest
Episode 497 | Recorded: December 14, 2025
#SpotlightOnSilence #ArmeniaJustice #PoliticalPrisoners #FreedomOfSpeech #RuleOfLaw #HumanRights #Groong</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode examines a widening pattern of political repression in Armenia, focusing on the criminalization of speech, selective justice, and coordinated pressure against journalists, lawyers, clergy, and human rights defenders. Drawing on multiple statements and reports by the Armenian Center for Political Rights (ACPR), the discussion traces how legal tools, media campaigns, and vague criminal provisions are used to silence dissent and reshape the boundaries of acceptable public life.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="imnemnimi--antifake-case">Imnemnimi / Antifake Case</h2>
<p>The discussion opens with the case of the <strong>Imnemnimi podcasters from Antifake</strong>, which illustrates how repression functions in practice. Two podcasters were arrested twice for speech expressed on a political podcast. Although insult has been decriminalized, authorities reclassified their words as “online hooliganism,” seized their equipment, and crippled their newsroom.</p>
<p>The same podcasters were previously detained in <strong>March 2024</strong> on identical charges and were later <strong>acquitted in May 2025</strong>. Despite the acquittal, authorities re-arrested them and again imposed pre-trial detention.</p>
<h3 id="referenced-links">Referenced links</h3>
<ul>
<li>Acquittal of Antifake podcasters (OC Media):
<a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-anti-government-podcast-hosts-acquitted-of-hooliganism-charges-after-insulting-pm/">https://oc-media.org/armenian-anti-government-podcast-hosts-acquitted-of-hooliganism-charges-after-insulting-pm/</a></li>
<li>Council of Europe Safety of Journalists Platform alert:
<a href="https://fom.coe.int/en/alerte/detail/107643293">https://fom.coe.int/en/alerte/detail/107643293</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/acpr.center">ACPR</a> statement on the Antifake case (Nov 14, 2025):
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-kuEpHJui1heNOgj5yHz0mtpvfn9-H5/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b-kuEpHJui1heNOgj5yHz0mtpvfn9-H5/view</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="lawyers-under-pressure">Lawyers Under Pressure</h2>
<p>The episode then turns to the arrest of <strong>two lawyers in November</strong>, highlighting that even the legal profession is no longer protected when it defends politically sensitive cases.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Aleksander Kochubaev</strong> was jailed after publishing a harsh Facebook post criticizing judges and prosecutors over church-related cases, under a criminal article that does not apply to insults.</li>
<li><strong>Ruben Mkhitaryan</strong> was arrested while present as a lawyer at a protest outside Gyumri City Hall, where he was negotiating with police and raising his hands. Despite video evidence showing no unlawful conduct, he was charged with mass disorder and interference with justice.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="referenced-links-1">Referenced links</h3>
<ul>
<li>ACPR statement on Aleksander Kochubaev (Oct 17, 2025):
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TFHTHD3D5V7EXz_EQiG1juR4WePiTm5-/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TFHTHD3D5V7EXz_EQiG1juR4WePiTm5-/view</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/acpr.center">ACPR</a> statement on Ruben Mkhitaryan (Oct 27, 2025):
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1msixBSSSliim7AtJHzrG5LmYq77wM9Jo/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1msixBSSSliim7AtJHzrG5LmYq77wM9Jo/view</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="mass-political-persecutions-of-2025">Mass Political Persecutions of 2025</h2>
<h3 id="setting-the-context">Setting the Context</h3>
<p>In early November, the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/acpr.center">ACPR</a> published a comprehensive report documenting major political prosecutions between <strong>May and September 2025</strong>, examining why repression escalated during this period and how political control over law enforcement and the judiciary has intensified.</p>
<h3 id="referenced-link">Referenced link</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/acpr.center">ACPR</a> report: <em>Mass political persecutions of 2025 (May–September)</em>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cF8bcqCOAgPDCaK9Oa-uDFxCCEH5CwHv/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cF8bcqCOAgPDCaK9Oa-uDFxCCEH5CwHv/view</a></li>
</ul>
<p>The report also notes that months have passed since these incidents without meaningful assessment or condemnation from international bodies.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="the-case-of-samvel-karapetyan-and-supporters">The Case of Samvel Karapetyan and Supporters</h2>
<p>One highlighted case involves <strong>Samvel Karapetyan</strong> and those associated with him. Beyond the charges themselves, the defining feature is the collective nature of enforcement, with supporters targeted through arrests, pressure, and legal action.</p>
<p>Karapetyan was arrested for stating: <em>“If politicians do not succeed, we will take part in our own way,”</em> which authorities interpreted as a call to seize power. Even an expert witness who concluded otherwise later had his home searched.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="the-case-of-the-holy-struggle-srbazan-baykar-movement">The Case of the “Holy Struggle” (Srbazan Baykar) Movement</h2>
<p>The report also analyzes the treatment of participants in the <strong>“Holy Struggle” movement</strong>, led in 2024 by Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan. The movement combined religious motivation and civic activism and was met with a particularly forceful response.</p>
<p>Members of the government characterized the movement as terrorism and likened it to October 27, despite the absence of publicly available evidence supporting such claims.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="the-case-of-archbishop-mikael-ajapahyan">The Case of Archbishop Mikael Ajapahyan</h2>
<p>The case of <strong>Archbishop Mikael Ajapahyan</strong> extends the discussion into the Armenian Apostolic Church. According to the report, legal and administrative pressure in this case served to draw boundaries around acceptable religious and public speech rather than to address criminal conduct, demonstrating that senior clergy are not immune from political pressure.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="coordinated-campaign-against-human-rights-defenders">Coordinated Campaign Against Human Rights Defenders</h2>
<p>Beyond arrests and courtrooms, the report documents a coordinated information campaign against <strong>human rights defenders, lawyers, journalists, and clergy supporters</strong>. These actors are portrayed as foreign agents, particularly Russian agents, extremists, or threats to Armenia’s national interests. The campaign works in parallel with legal action to undermine credibility and public trust.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="article-236">Article 236</h2>
<p>The episode concludes with a discussion of <strong>Article 236 of Armenia’s Criminal Code</strong>, informed by a 2025 <strong>Venice Commission decision</strong>. Article 236 criminalizes interference with assemblies and so-called material incentivizing of participation or non-participation in protests. The Venice Commission warned that the provision is overly vague and grants excessive discretion, making it incompatible with legal certainty and freedom of assembly.</p>
<h3 id="referenced-links-2">Referenced links</h3>
<ul>
<li>Venice Commission decision on Article 236:
<a href="https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/default.aspx?pdffile=CDL-AD%282025%29037-e">https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/default.aspx?pdffile=CDL-AD(2025)037-e</a></li>
<li>Avetik Chalabyan detention (4 months):
<a href="https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Joint_Report_HCA_ACPR_10.01.2024_ARM_REVISED-1.pdf">https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Joint_Report_HCA_ACPR_10.01.2024_ARM_REVISED-1.pdf</a></li>
<li>Gerasim Vardanyan detention (6 months):
<a href="https://alphanews.am/en/my-friends-and-i-were-detained-for-six-months-on-fabricated-charges-gerasim-vardanyan/">https://alphanews.am/en/my-friends-and-i-were-detained-for-six-months-on-fabricated-charges-gerasim-vardanyan/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/497/thumbnail-497.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/497/thumbnail-497.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18378433-spotlight-on-silence-injustice-in-armenia-ep-497-dec-18-2025.mp3" length="58119016" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4840</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Foreign Pressure, Attack on Church, Artsakh Repression | Ep 496, Dec 14, 2025
[EP496]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/496-arthur-khachatryan-armenia-week-in-review-eu-russia-eaeu-church-crackdown-artsakh-nss-economy/</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18366039-arthur-khachatryan-foreign-pressure-attack-on-church-artsakh-repression-ep-496-dec-14-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>496</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Foreign Pressure, Attack on Church, Artsakh Repression | Ep 496, Dec 14, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - December 14, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Armenia between EU and Russia
* Church–state confrontation in Armenia
* Artsakh concessions and return debate
* Economy, debt, and governance
* NSS raids Artsakh offices
Episode 496 | Recorded: December 15, 2025
#ArmeniaPolitics #EUvsRussia #ArmenianChurch #Artsakh #Geopolitics</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Church–state confrontation in Armenia
* Artsakh concessions and return debate
* Economy, debt, and governance
* NSS raids Artsakh offices
Episode 496 | Recorded: December 15, 2025
#ArmeniaPolitics #EUvsRussia #ArmenianChurch #Artsakh #Geopolitics</description><googleplay:description>
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* Church–state confrontation in Armenia
* Artsakh concessions and return debate
* Economy, debt, and governance
* NSS raids Artsakh offices
Episode 496 | Recorded: December 15, 2025
#ArmeniaPolitics #EUvsRussia #ArmenianChurch #Artsakh #Geopolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Week in Review, we examine Armenia’s mounting strategic, political, and economic pressures. The discussion focuses on Pashinyan’s dual-track signaling toward the EU and Russia, rising tensions with the Armenian Apostolic Church, renewed controversies around Artsakh and the right of return, NSS raids on Artsakh institutions in Yerevan, and troubling indicators from Armenia’s 2025 economic performance, including declining trade, underexecuted capital spending, and rising state debt.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<h3 id="armenia-between-the-west-and-russia">Armenia Between the West and Russia</h3>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s official visit to Germany followed by a working visit to Russia for the EAEU Intergovernmental Council</li>
<li>Western framing of peace, EU alignment, and transport corridors as a single package</li>
<li>Public signaling toward EU membership while remaining inside the EAEU</li>
<li>Russia’s growing unease over Armenia’s strategic ambiguity</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-engagement-and-informal-pressure">EU Engagement and Informal Pressure</h3>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s statement that EU membership is a goal, even if leaving the EAEU is not</li>
<li>Ararat Mirzoyan’s informal participation in the EU Foreign Affairs Council in Brussels</li>
<li>Reports that Armenia’s 2026 parliamentary elections were discussed during an informal EU breakfast</li>
<li>Questions around EU expectations, including sanctions on Russia</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="churchstate-confrontation">Church–State Confrontation</h3>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s shifting justifications for confronting the Armenian Apostolic Church</li>
<li>Proposal for Catholicos Garegin II’s resignation and appointment of a caretaker vicar</li>
<li>Government-driven canon law reform, clergy vetting, and political restrictions</li>
<li>Constitutional implications of state interference in church affairs</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh-concessions-and-right-of-return">Artsakh, Concessions, and Right of Return</h3>
<ul>
<li>Post-2020 and post-2023 concessions culminating in the loss of Artsakh</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s demand for the “return” of 1990s Azerbaijani refugees to Armenia</li>
<li>Armenia’s effective closure of the Artsakh Armenians’ right of return</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s proposal to drop Artsakh return claims in exchange for Azerbaijan abandoning the “Western Azerbaijan” narrative</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="nss-raids-on-artsakh-institutions">NSS Raids on Artsakh Institutions</h3>
<ul>
<li>Raids on Artsakh offices in Yerevan without detailed public justification</li>
<li>Timing coinciding with renewed advocacy for Artsakh Armenians’ rights</li>
<li>Broader concerns about rule of law and political pressure</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-economy-in-2025">Armenia’s Economy in 2025</h3>
<ul>
<li>Sharp decline in trade and reexports with Russia</li>
<li>Severe underperformance in capital expenditures, including defense, schools, roads, and infrastructure</li>
<li>Rising state debt exceeding $14 billion</li>
<li>Weak execution across multiple strategic development programs</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Can Armenia realistically pursue EU membership while remaining in the EAEU?</li>
<li>What does the EU expect from Armenia in return for political and electoral support?</li>
<li>Are sanctions on Russia under serious consideration in Yerevan?</li>
<li>What constitutional limits exist on government intervention in church affairs?</li>
<li>Can the rights of displaced Artsakh Armenians be negotiated away?</li>
<li>Do NSS raids signal a breakdown in rule of law?</li>
<li>Why are economic failures and rising debt not central to political debate ahead of elections?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur Khachatryan:</strong> Structural weaknesses of the opposition and the cult-like dynamics of Pashinyan’s political system.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik Manucharyan:</strong> Reflections on Mikayel Minasyan’s recent Facebook post and its broader political implications.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan visit to Germany
<a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/foreign-visits/item/2025/12/09/Nikol-Pashinyan-visiting-Germany/">https://www.primeminister.am/en/foreign-visits/item/2025/12/09/Nikol-Pashinyan-visiting-Germany/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Announcement of Pashinyan’s Russia visit
<a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2025/12/11/Anons/">https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2025/12/11/Anons/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan on EU membership and EAEU
<a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/leaving-eaeu-is-not-armenia-s-goal-but-eu-membership-is-prime-minister/">https://arka.am/en/news/politics/leaving-eaeu-is-not-armenia-s-goal-but-eu-membership-is-prime-minister/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting (Dec 15, 2025)
<a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/fac/2025/12/15/">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/fac/2025/12/15/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Latvian MFA page referenced regarding Armenia elections
<a href="https://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/article/eu-foreign-affairs-council-focus-future-eu-support-ukraine-situation-middle-east-and-eu-china-relations">https://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/article/eu-foreign-affairs-council-focus-future-eu-support-ukraine-situation-middle-east-and-eu-china-relations</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armen Ashotyan Facebook post
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/armen.ashotyan/posts/pfbid0AZVD4fcLcJ27QL1ygdAW11oTM2TwyfTAHEjr3yN7dbZi1wxZJvJBCNqrDGyzQTo8l">https://www.facebook.com/armen.ashotyan/posts/pfbid0AZVD4fcLcJ27QL1ygdAW11oTM2TwyfTAHEjr3yN7dbZi1wxZJvJBCNqrDGyzQTo8l</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Russian Deputy PM Overchuk on Armenia trade and EAEU
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33620923.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33620923.html</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan church reform roadmap
<a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237044">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237044</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan on dropping Artsakh return and “Western Azerbaijan” narratives
<a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237319">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1237319</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>NSS raids on Artsakh offices
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33620644.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33620644.html</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Luys Foundation report on Armenia’s economy (Jan–Oct 2025)
<a href="https://luys.am/img/artpic/small/d0705cd1318a1601e30c04-%D5%8A%D5%A5%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D5%A2%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%BB%D5%A5%D5%AB-2025%D5%A9%E2%80%A4-%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%B6-%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%AB%D5%BD%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AB-%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6.pdf">https://luys.am/img/artpic/small/d0705cd1318a1601e30c04-%D5%8A%D5%A5%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D5%A2%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%BB%D5%A5%D5%AB-2025%D5%A9%E2%80%A4-%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%B6-%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%AB%D5%BD%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AB-%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6.pdf</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Mikayel Minasyan Facebook post
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17xi4Jp7GL/">https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17xi4Jp7GL/</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/496/thumbnail-496.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/496/thumbnail-496.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18366039-arthur-khachatryan-foreign-pressure-attack-on-church-artsakh-repression-ep-496-dec-14-2025.mp3" length="46176794" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3845</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Harry Istepanian - Venezuela’s Oil and the Global Power Struggle | Ep 495, Dec 14, 2025
[EP495]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/495-harry-istepanian-venezuela-usa-oil-world-geopolitics-russia-iran-middle-east/</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18350604-harry-istepanian-venezuela-s-oil-and-the-global-power-struggle-ep-495-dec-14-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>495</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Harry Istepanian - Venezuela’s Oil and the Global Power Struggle | Ep 495, Dec 14, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: December 11, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Venezuela’s oil and US pressure
* Trump, oil prices, and OPEC+
* Middle East fallout from cheap oil
* Ukraine war and Iran conflict stakes
Episode 495 | Recorded: December 11, 2025
#Venezuela #OilPolitics #Geopolitics #USForeignPolicy #EnergyWars</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
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#### Topics:
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* Trump, oil prices, and OPEC+
* Middle East fallout from cheap oil
* Ukraine war and Iran conflict stakes
Episode 495 | Recorded: December 11, 2025
#Venezuela #OilPolitics #Geopolitics #USForeignPolicy #EnergyWars</description><googleplay:description>#### Groong Links:
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* Trump, oil prices, and OPEC+
* Middle East fallout from cheap oil
* Ukraine war and Iran conflict stakes
Episode 495 | Recorded: December 11, 2025
#Venezuela #OilPolitics #Geopolitics #USForeignPolicy #EnergyWars</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>Conversations on Groong</strong>, we examine why Venezuela has returned to the center of global geopolitics. The discussion focuses on oil, sanctions, and military pressure, and how a potential revival of Venezuelan production could reshape energy markets, weaken Russia and Iran, strain OPEC+, and alter the dynamics of ongoing wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.</p>
<hr>
<h3 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h3>
<ul>
<li>Harry Istepanian’s background and expertise in global energy markets</li>
<li>Venezuela’s oil reserves and the collapse of production after sanctions</li>
<li>The role of US sanctions, expelled oil companies, and low US strategic reserves</li>
<li>Washington’s pressure campaign on Venezuela and regional reactions</li>
<li>Trump’s push for oil prices below 50 dollars per barrel</li>
<li>OPEC+ price discipline and the threat of Venezuelan supply returning</li>
<li>The impact of cheaper oil on Russia’s war budget in Ukraine</li>
<li>Consequences for Iran, Iraq, and Gulf state economies</li>
<li>Risks of escalation in the Middle East and the Strait of Hormuz</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Why did Venezuela’s oil production collapse so sharply over the past decade?</li>
<li>How low is the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and why does it matter now?</li>
<li>Why does Trump see Venezuelan oil as a strategic problem rather than a commercial one?</li>
<li>What prevents US oil companies from returning to Venezuela quickly?</li>
<li>How would a surge in Venezuelan oil challenge OPEC+ and global price controls?</li>
<li>What happens to Russia’s economy and war financing if oil prices fall sharply?</li>
<li>How would Iran and Gulf states respond to sustained price pressure?</li>
<li>Could new Venezuelan supply change the balance in global conflicts?</li>
<li>What Middle East risks could still override a rise in oil supply?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/495/thumbnail-495.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/495/thumbnail-495.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18350604-harry-istepanian-venezuela-s-oil-and-the-global-power-struggle-ep-495-dec-14-2025.mp3" length="33770007" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2811</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Pashinyan War on Armenian Church, EU-Armenia, Artsakh, Arar Poll | Ep 494, Sep 25, 2025
[EP494]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/494-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-war-on-armenian-church-eu-armenia-nagorno-karabakh-negotiation-documents-arar-poll/</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 02:20:32 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18327868-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-war-on-armenian-church-eu-armenia-artsakh-arar-poll-ep-494-dec-7-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>494</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Pashinyan War on Armenian Church, EU-Armenia, Artsakh, Arar Poll | Ep 494, Sep 25, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - December 7, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* 1988 Earthquake Remembered
* Pashinyan’s War on the Armenian Church
* EU-Armenia Relations
* Nagorno-Karabakh Negotiation Documents
* ARAR Foundation Poll
Episode 494 | Recorded: December 8, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #NSS #Pashinyan #ArarPoll #ArmeniaEU</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* 1988 Earthquake Remembered
* Pashinyan’s War on the Armenian Church
* EU-Armenia Relations
* Nagorno-Karabakh Negotiation Documents
* ARAR Foundation Poll
Episode 494 | Recorded: December 8, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #NSS #Pashinyan #ArarPoll #ArmeniaEU</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* 1988 Earthquake Remembered
* Pashinyan’s War on the Armenian Church
* EU-Armenia Relations
* Nagorno-Karabakh Negotiation Documents
* ARAR Foundation Poll
Episode 494 | Recorded: December 8, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #NSS #Pashinyan #ArarPoll #ArmeniaEU</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This Week in Review with Benyamin Poghosyan looks at Pashinyan’s escalating confrontation with the Armenian Apostolic Church, including the arrest of Archbishop Arshak Khachatryan on a narcotics “distribution” charge rooted in a 2018 incident, and the security services’ seizure of Gyumri’s Seven Wounds Church to stage a December 7 Divine Liturgy without mentioning the Catholicos. We discuss what these moves reveal about the regime’s goals toward Etchmiadzin, while polls show strong public support for both the Church and the Armed Forces. We also examine the new Armenia-EU “Strategic Agenda,” calls for Yerevan to join anti-Russia sanctions, EU funding against “Russian hybrid war,” Pashinyan’s selective publication of OSCE Minsk Group documents, and fresh polling on where Armenians see their main strategic partners and the Russian base in Gyumri.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Arrest of Archbishop Arshak Khachatryan on narcotics “distribution” charges tied to a 2018 “New Armenia, New Catholicos” break-in at Echmiadzin</li>
<li>Role of the NSS, Investigative Committee, and loyal judges in turning the case into a political tool against the Church</li>
<li>Seizure of Gyumri’s Seven Wounds Church for Pashinyan’s December 7 liturgy and pressure on Shirak clergy to omit the Catholicos’s name</li>
<li>Broader pattern of Pashinyan’s attacks on the Church, including threats to “dethrone” the Catholicos and politicize symbols and rituals</li>
<li>EU-Armenia “Strategic Agenda,” Kaja Kallas’s push for Armenia to align with EU sanctions on Russia, and new EU funding to fight “Russian hybrid war”</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s selective “release” of OSCE Minsk Group and Karabakh negotiation documents after the MG’s dissolution</li>
<li>Arar Foundation polling on trust in the government, Church, Armed Forces, police, and parliament, including demographic patterns</li>
<li>Poll findings on preferred strategic partners (Russia, US, Iran, EU, Turkey) and attitudes toward the Russian base in Gyumri</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How does a years-old allegation linked to a 2018 protest at Echmiadzin get turned into a charge of narcotics distribution against Archbishop Arshak?</li>
<li>If case assignment is meant to be random, why do so many high-profile and political cases land before the same judge?</li>
<li>What does the use of pretrial detention against senior clergy tell us about the state of justice and due process in Armenia?</li>
<li>Why is the NSS pressuring clergy over the content of the Divine Liturgy, and why is there so little international reaction to this level of state interference?</li>
<li>What is Pashinyan’s endgame in his campaign against the Armenian Church, especially when polls show it is one of the most trusted institutions in the country?</li>
<li>What does the EU really expect from Armenia on sanctions and “Russian hybrid war,” and how realistic is it for Armenia to comply?</li>
<li>What is the political purpose behind publishing a narrow, selective set of OSCE MG documents while omitting key items like Key West?</li>
<li>How should we interpret the rise in pro-Russia sentiment in the polls and the strong support for the Russian base in Gyumri?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="select-slides-from-arar-poll">Select Slides From Arar Poll</h1>
<p>The <a href="https://ararfoundation.am/news/%d5%b0%d5%a1%d5%b6%d6%80%d5%a1%d5%b5%d5%ab%d5%b6-%d5%af%d5%a1%d6%80%d5%ae%d5%ab%d6%84%d5%ab-%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%bd%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%b4%d5%b6%d5%a1%d5%bd%d5%ab%d6%80%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%a9%d5%b5%d5%a1%d5%b6/">results</a> of a poll by the <a href="ararfoundation.am">Arar Foundation</a> were released last month.</p>
<h2 id="methodology">Methodology</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Mode</strong>: Computer Assisted Telephone Interviewing (CATI) using tablets.</li>
<li><strong>Sampling</strong>: &ldquo;Randomly generated&rdquo; Armenian mobile phone numbers, with proportional coverage of the mobile network.</li>
<li><strong>Sample size</strong>: N = 1123 adults in Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Fieldwork period</strong>: 5 Oct - 25 Oct 2025.</li>
<li><strong>Claimed margin of error</strong>: ±2.92% at 95% confidence.</li>
<li><strong>Honesty level</strong>: &ldquo;Անկեղծության մակարդակը - 99.6% (ըստ հարցազրուցավարների գնահատականի)&rdquo; - interviewer evaluated.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="satisfaction-levels-with-institutions">Satisfaction Levels With Institutions</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/494/images/poll-10.webp" alt="Slide 10"  title="Slide 10" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>National Assembly</strong>
<ol>
<li>Low: 50.0%</li>
<li>Medium: 24.4%</li>
<li>High: 25.2%</li>
<li>DK/Refuse: 0.3%</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><strong>Armed Forces</strong>
5. Low: 14.3%
6. Medium: 18.1%
7. High: 66.4%
8. DK/Refuse: 1.2%</li>
<li><strong>Police</strong>
9. Low: 23.2%
10. Medium: 21.1%
11. High: 54.6%
12. DK/Refuse: 1.0%</li>
<li><strong>Government</strong>
13. Low: 39%
14. Medium: 20.5%
15. High: 39.5%
16. DK/Refuse: 0.4%</li>
<li><strong>Armenian Apostolic Church</strong>
17. Low: 19.1%
18. Medium: 16.8%
19. High: 62.5%
20. DK/Refuse: 1.5%</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="demographic-details">Demographic Details</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/494/images/poll-13.webp" alt="Slide 13"  title="Slide 13" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/494/images/poll-11.webp" alt="Slide 11"  title="Slide 11" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="strategic-partnership-and-russian-base">Strategic Partnership and Russian Base</h2>
<p>One of the questions asked, from the following 5 powers (US, EU, Turkey, Russia or Iran), with which should Armenia form a military-strategic alliance. The top response, with 37.8%, was Russia. This rating, according to the pollster, has been gradually rising since July 2024, when it was at 24.3%. The second runner up was the US with 18.3% and the third was Iran with 17.5%.</p>
<p>The EU was 15.9% and Turkey was 5.4%.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/494/images/poll-39.webp" alt="Slide 39"  title="Slide 39" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/494/images/poll-32.webp" alt="Slide 32"  title="Slide 32" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> The 2026 parliamentary elections will be neither free nor fair.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> In our direst moments, we have turned to our history and found the will to stand up and win.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/derenik.malkhasyan/posts/pfbid02aDNx31J2xecLfaSXsLWYB18hk3nqHrG2Zhx75eCE7bgbqhWZYWRgVYdaKg8w3CH1l">Statement by Shirak Diocese clergy pledging loyalty to the Catholicos</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mfa.am/filemanager/%D5%80%D5%80-%D4%B5%D5%84/%20-%20%D4%B5%D5%84%20%D5%A3%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%AE%D5%A8%D5%B6%D5%AF%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%20%D5%BC%D5%A1%D5%A6%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%BE%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6%20%D6%85%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A3_0.pdf">Strategic Agenda for the Armenia-EU Partnership</a></li>
<li><a href="https://video.consilium.europa.eu/event/en/28263">Kaja Kallas remarks on the EU-Armenia partnership and Russia sanctions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gov.am/am/K-Negotiation-Documents/">Armenian Government page: Karabakh Negotiation Documents</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ararfoundation.am/news/%d5%b0%d5%a1%d5%b6%d6%80%d5%a1%d5%b5%d5%ab%d5%b6-%d5%af%d5%a1%d6%80%d5%ae%d5%ab%d6%84%d5%ab-%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%bd%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%b4%d5%b6%d5%a1%d5%bd%d5%ab%d6%80%d5%b8%d6%82%d5%a9%d5%b5%d5%a1%d5%b6/">Arar Foundation poll on attitudes toward Armenian institutions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ararfoundation.am">Arar Foundation official website</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/494/thumbnail-494.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/494/thumbnail-494.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18327868-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-war-on-armenian-church-eu-armenia-artsakh-arar-poll-ep-494-dec-7-2025.mp3" length="48689847" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4054</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachikyan - OSCE MG Dissolved, Libaridian on Submission, New Constitution, Armenian Church, Prayer Breakfast, Border Commissions meet in Baku | Ep 493, Nov 30, 2025
[EP493]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/493-arthur-khachikyan-osce-mg-libaridian-new-constitution-attacks-on-armenian-church-national-prayer-breakfast-border-commissions-in-baku/</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 10:08:39 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18296269-arthur-khachikyan-osce-mg-dissolved-libaridian-on-submission-new-constitution-armenian-church-prayer-breakfast-border-commish-ep-493-nov-30-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>493</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachikyan - OSCE MG Dissolved, Libaridian on Submission, New Constitution, Armenian Church, Prayer Breakfast, Border Commissions meet in Baku | Ep 493, Nov 30, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - November 30, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* OSCE MG Dissolved
* Libaridian on Submitting to Turkey and Azerbaijan
* News Constitution to be Drafted by March 2026
* Archbishops, Letters, Attacks on the Church
* Border Commissions Meet in Baku
* Comments from Jacob Pursley
Episode 493 | Recorded: December 2, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* OSCE MG Dissolved
* Libaridian on Submitting to Turkey and Azerbaijan
* News Constitution to be Drafted by March 2026
* Archbishops, Letters, Attacks on the Church
* Border Commissions Meet in Baku
* Comments from Jacob Pursley
Episode 493 | Recorded: December 2, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arthur Khachikyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* OSCE MG Dissolved
* Libaridian on Submitting to Turkey and Azerbaijan
* News Constitution to be Drafted by March 2026
* Archbishops, Letters, Attacks on the Church
* Border Commissions Meet in Baku
* Comments from Jacob Pursley
Episode 493 | Recorded: December 2, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>In this Week in Review, we talk with <strong>Dr. Arthur Khachikyan</strong> about the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group, Ankara and Baku’s new preconditions, the rush toward a new Armenian constitution, the deepening campaign against the Armenian Apostolic Church, and the opaque border talks in Baku. We also respond to Jacob Pursley’s comments on our earlier coverage of Armenia’s “prayer breakfast” and examine how this ties into Pashinyan’s image-building efforts abroad.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>OSCE Minsk Group dissolved on December 1</li>
<li>Libaridian’s call for Armenia to accept defeat and engage neighbors directly</li>
<li>Turkey’s demands, including constitutional changes and the so-called Zangezur Corridor</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s plan to produce a new constitution by March 2026</li>
<li>Crisis in the Armenian Church, leaked videos, and the revolt of 13 archbishops</li>
<li>Statements from prison by Archbishops Ajapahyan and Galstanyan</li>
<li>Border Commissions meeting in Baku with no transparency</li>
<li>Responding to Jacob Pursley’s comments on Episode 490</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What does the dissolution of the Minsk Group mean for Artsakh’s cause internationally?</li>
<li>How should Armenians approach Libaridian’s insinuation that Russia is a “distant power,” even as he promotes reliance on Western states that are farther away, but who will shape policy toward Armenia through Turkey?</li>
<li>Why is the government rushing to draft a new constitution by March 2026?</li>
<li>What lies behind the sudden internal revolt within the Armenian Church?</li>
<li>Who benefits from the leaked Archbishop Arshak videos?</li>
<li>Why are border negotiations happening without maps and without public oversight?</li>
<li>How does the government’s outreach to Western Christian groups fit with its crackdown on the Church?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Hakan Fidan interview on Armenia–Turkey normalization</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33595842.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33595842.html</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Education is Fashionable – My Step / Anna Hakobyan initiative</strong><br>
<a href="https://mycharity.am/educationisfashionable">https://mycharity.am/educationisfashionable</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Previous Groong Episode 493 (linked in outline header)</strong><br>
<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/493">https://podcasts.groong.org/493</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Previous Groong Episode 490 with Joel Veldkamp (Prayer Breakfast context)</strong><br>
<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/490">https://podcasts.groong.org/490</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="a-response-to-jacobpursley1800">A response to @jacobpursley1800</h1>
<p>We address a comment from a user “@jacobpursley1800”, responding to our <a href="https://youtu.be/BGnt2feIXMs">Episode 490</a> with Joel Veldkamp, of the Christian Solidarity International, about Armenia’s national prayer breakfast.</p>
<p>Comment screenshot:</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/493/images/pursley-comment.webp" alt="Comment Screenshot"  title="Comment Screenshot" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Pursley says the event was not organized by the Armenian government, the Prime Minister did not host it, and that our take was not “fact based.”</p>
<p>While the main topic of our show was the persecution of the Armenian Apostolic Church and its clergy, which the commenter completely sidestepped, we would like to address the matter of whether this event was truly organized by an independent “civil society” without any help from the government.</p>
<ol>
<li>Who was the prayer breakfast organized by?</li>
</ol>
<p>There were other co-organizers, but the main coordinator of the event is Stepan Sargsyan from the “Individual Believers Club” as the commenter also indicates.</p>
<ol start="2">
<li>Who is Stepan Sargsyan?</li>
</ol>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/493/images/stepan-sargsyan.webp" alt="Stepan Sargsyan"  title="Stepan Sargsyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Stepan Sargsyan is listed as a <em><strong>“member of the central committee of the ‘Education is Fashionable’ movement and project manager”</strong></em>.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/493/images/stepan-sargsyan-education-fashionable.webp" alt="Stepan Sargsyan - Education is Fashionable"  title="Stepan Sargsyan - Education is Fashionable" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ol start="3">
<li>Education is Fashionable is a program under the aegis of <a href="https://mystep.foundation/en/programs/education-is-fashionable/">My Step Foundation</a> which is an ‘NGO’ founded by Nikol Pashinyan’s partner, Anna Hakobyan and affiliated with Civil Contract.</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Chair of the Board of Trustees is Lena Nazaryan, a member of the Civil Contract party.</li>
<li>Executive Director is Anna Hakobyan, Nikol Pashinyan’s partner.</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/493/images/education-is-fashionable.webp" alt="Education is Fashionable"  title="Education is Fashionable" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ol start="4">
<li>According to <a href="https://factor.am/902451.html">media</a>, Education is Fashionable is also funded by the state budget and the amount of funding is concealed as a ‘state secret’</li>
</ol>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/493/images/secret-budget.webp" alt="State Secret"  title="State Secret" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/493/thumbnail-493.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/493/thumbnail-493.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18296269-arthur-khachikyan-osce-mg-dissolved-libaridian-on-submission-new-constitution-armenian-church-prayer-breakfast-border-commish-ep-493-nov-30-2025.mp3" length="43955364" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3660</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Eldar Mamedov - The Global Geopolitics Surrounding the South Caucasus | Ep 492, Dec 1, 2025
[EP492]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/492-eldar-mamedov-geopolitics-armenia-azerbaijan-south-caucasus-europe-russia-iran-israel-ukraine/</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 10:30:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18280545-eldar-mamedov-the-global-geopolitics-surrounding-the-south-caucasus-ep-492-dec-1-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>492</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Eldar Mamedov - The Global Geopolitics Surrounding the South Caucasus | Ep 492, Dec 1, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: November 29, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* US and Venezuela
* Potential for New War on Iran
* Is Azerbaijan a “Middle Power”?
* Europe’s Confused Geopolitical Identity
* Armenia’s Confused Geopolitics
Episode 492 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
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* Potential for New War on Iran
* Is Azerbaijan a “Middle Power”?
* Europe’s Confused Geopolitical Identity
* Armenia’s Confused Geopolitics
Episode 492 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
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* Is Azerbaijan a “Middle Power”?
* Europe’s Confused Geopolitical Identity
* Armenia’s Confused Geopolitics
Episode 492 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
#IranCrisis #AzerbaijanPolitics #EuropeanGeopolitics #ArmeniaSecurity #SouthCaucasus #GlobalPowerPolitics</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Conversations on Groong episode features <strong>Eldar Mamedov</strong>, former Latvian diplomat, non-resident fellow at the Quincy Institute, and member of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugwash_Conferences_on_Science_and_World_Affairs">Pugwash Council on Science &amp; World Affairs</a>.</p>
<p>We discuss rising global tensions following Israel’s war on Iran, Azerbaijan’s expanding geopolitical ambitions, Europe’s unclear foreign policy, and the risks Armenia faces while trying to reposition itself in a turbulent neighborhood.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Breaking developments around Venezuela and U.S. military signaling</li>
<li>The potential for a renewed Iran–Israel conflict</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s Middle East strategy and ties with Israel</li>
<li>Europe’s fragmented and reactive geopolitical posture</li>
<li>Armenia’s uncertain turn toward Europe amid regional instability</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What does Washington’s move on Venezuelan airspace signal?</li>
<li>How likely is a new Iran war, and what did the June fighting reveal?</li>
<li>How does Azerbaijan’s partnership with Israel shape Iran’s threat perception?</li>
<li>What role might Turkey or Azerbaijan play in a worst-case scenario inside Iran?</li>
<li>What is Baku trying to achieve in the Middle East?</li>
<li>Why is Europe resistant to diplomatic off-ramps in Ukraine?</li>
<li>Can Europe act as an independent geopolitical force?</li>
<li>What can Europe realistically offer Armenia in security terms?</li>
<li>What posture should Armenia adopt amid rising regional risks?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia’s Self-Defeating Path</strong>
<a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/armenia-treads-a-self-defeating-path/">https://www.theamericanconservative.com/armenia-treads-a-self-defeating-path/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Azerbaijan in the Middle East</strong> (<em>Le Monde Diplomatique</em>)
<a href="https://mondediplo.com/outsidein/azerbaijan-middle-east">https://mondediplo.com/outsidein/azerbaijan-middle-east</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Westerners Rushing to Defend Azerbaijan Against Russia</strong>
<a href="https://braveneweurope.com/eldar-mamedov-westerners-foolishly-rush-to-defend-azerbaijan-against-russia">https://braveneweurope.com/eldar-mamedov-westerners-foolishly-rush-to-defend-azerbaijan-against-russia</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Aravot Interview / Commentary</strong>
<a href="https://en.aravot.am/2025/08/10/361837">https://en.aravot.am/2025/08/10/361837</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Is European Lobbying of Trump a Sign of Strength or Weakness?</strong>
<a href="https://quincyinst.org/2025/08/20/is-european-lobbying-of-trump-a-sign-of-strength-or-weakness/">https://quincyinst.org/2025/08/20/is-european-lobbying-of-trump-a-sign-of-strength-or-weakness/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The U.S. and Russia Come Together on Syria</strong>
<a href="https://quincyinst.org/2025/03/11/the-u-s-and-russia-come-together-on-syria/">https://quincyinst.org/2025/03/11/the-u-s-and-russia-come-together-on-syria/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Interview in The European Conservative</strong>
<a href="https://europeanconservative.com/articles/interviews/europes-getting-sidelined-and-its-got-itself-to-blame-policy-expert-eldar-mamedov">https://europeanconservative.com/articles/interviews/europes-getting-sidelined-and-its-got-itself-to-blame-policy-expert-eldar-mamedov</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Reuters on Venezuelan Airspace Closure</strong>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-airspace-above-surrounding-venezuela-be-closed-its-entirety-2025-11-29/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-airspace-above-surrounding-venezuela-be-closed-its-entirety-2025-11-29/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Intercept on U.S. Caribbean Buildup</strong>
<a href="https://theintercept.com/2025/11/25/trump-caribbean-venezuela-military-troops/">https://theintercept.com/2025/11/25/trump-caribbean-venezuela-military-troops/</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/492/thumbnail-492.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/492/thumbnail-492.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18280545-eldar-mamedov-the-global-geopolitics-surrounding-the-south-caucasus-ep-492-dec-1-2025.mp3" length="46657955" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3885</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Matt Hoh - What Happened to America First, Ukraine, Gaza, TRIPP in Armenia and other US Adventures | Ep 491 - Nov 30, 2025
[EP491]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/491-matthew-hoh-what-happened-to-america-first-tripp-armenia-ukraine-war-gaza-venezuela/</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2025 10:30:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18272695-matt-hoh-what-happened-to-america-first-tripp-and-other-us-adventures-ep-491-nov-30-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>491</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Matt Hoh - What Happened to America First, Ukraine, Gaza, TRIPP in Armenia and other US Adventures | Ep 491 - Nov 30, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: November 29, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Venezuela
* Ukraine War
* Gaza
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Episode 491 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
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Episode 491 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
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* Gaza
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Episode 491 | Recorded: November 29, 2025
#Venezuela #AmericaFirst #USForeignPolicy #TRIPP #UkraineWar</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h1>
<p>This episode looks at Trump’s foreign policy ten months into his term. We discuss the widening gap between the America First promise and the reality of new foreign fronts, including Venezuela, Ukraine, Gaza, and the TRIPP project in Armenia. Matt Hoh joins us to explain how these issues connect and what they reveal about Washington’s strategic direction.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s move to shut down Venezuelan airspace and the risk of escalation</li>
<li>The shift in the Ukraine war and the gap between battlefield reality and media coverage</li>
<li>The Gaza ceasefire, Trump’s 20-point plan, and the growing divide inside the America First base</li>
<li>The TRIPP route in Armenia and the long-term strategic cost for the region</li>
<li>How these foreign engagements challenge the core idea of America First</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Why is Washington pushing toward confrontation with <strong>Venezuela</strong>, and what strategy is behind it?</li>
<li>Why is there a major disconnect between official warnings on the <strong>Ukraine war</strong> and what appears in mainstream coverage?</li>
<li>What is Trump’s actual goal in <strong>Gaza</strong>, and do these actions serve any defined U.S. national interest?</li>
<li>Why is the <strong>America First</strong> movement splitting over foreign involvement?</li>
<li>Does the <strong>TRIPP</strong> deal align with America First, and is the U.S. prepared for a 50 or 100-year commitment in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Does Armenia matter to Washington beyond its value in pressuring Russia and Iran?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<h2 id="venezuela"><strong>Venezuela</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Trump announces closure of Venezuelan airspace (Reuters):
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-airspace-above-surrounding-venezuela-be-closed-its-entirety-2025-11-29/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-airspace-above-surrounding-venezuela-be-closed-its-entirety-2025-11-29/</a></li>
<li>The Intercept on U.S. logistics planning for a Caribbean buildup:
<a href="https://theintercept.com/2025/11/25/trump-caribbean-venezuela-military-troops/">https://theintercept.com/2025/11/25/trump-caribbean-venezuela-military-troops/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ukraine-war--progress-in-the-war"><strong>Ukraine War – Progress in the War</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>NBC News on Dan Driscoll’s warning of “imminent defeat”:
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/us-army-secretary-warned-ukraine-imminent-defeat-pushing-initial-peace-rcna245704">https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/us-army-secretary-warned-ukraine-imminent-defeat-pushing-initial-peace-rcna245704</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ukraine-war--negotiations"><strong>Ukraine War – Negotiations</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Putin reiterates territorial demands (Sonar21):
<a href="https://sonar21.com/president-putin-reiterates-june-14-2024-conditions-for-ending-the-war-with-ukraine/">https://sonar21.com/president-putin-reiterates-june-14-2024-conditions-for-ending-the-war-with-ukraine/</a></li>
<li>Yermak rules out concessions (The Atlantic):
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2025/11/ukraine-zelensky-russia-trump-peace-land-red-line/685090/">https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2025/11/ukraine-zelensky-russia-trump-peace-land-red-line/685090/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/491/thumbnail-491.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/491/thumbnail-491.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18272695-matt-hoh-what-happened-to-america-first-tripp-and-other-us-adventures-ep-491-nov-30-2025.mp3" length="42740638" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3558</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Joel Veldkamp - Armenia’s Prayer Breakfast and the Crackdown on the Church | Ep 490, Nov 27, 2025
[EP490]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/490-joel-veldkamp-armenian-church-clergy-arrests-prayer-breakfast-csi-religious-repression/</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 21:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18263234-joel-veldkamp-armenia-s-prayer-breakfast-and-the-crackdown-on-the-church-ep-490-nov-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>490</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Joel Veldkamp - Armenia’s Prayer Breakfast and the Crackdown on the Church | Ep 490, Nov 27, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - November 27, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Clergy Arrests in Armenia
* Church Under Pressure
* Prayer Breakfast Controversy
* Western Silence on Repression
* CSI’s Findings in Yerevan
Episode 490 | Recorded: November 25, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #ChristianSolidarityInternational #HumanRightsInArmenia</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* Church Under Pressure
* Prayer Breakfast Controversy
* Western Silence on Repression
* CSI’s Findings in Yerevan
Episode 490 | Recorded: November 25, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #ChristianSolidarityInternational #HumanRightsInArmenia</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Clergy Arrests in Armenia
* Church Under Pressure
* Prayer Breakfast Controversy
* Western Silence on Repression
* CSI’s Findings in Yerevan
Episode 490 | Recorded: November 25, 2025
#ArmenianChurch #ReligiousFreedom #ClergyArrests #ChristianSolidarityInternational #HumanRightsInArmenia</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the <strong>Show Notes in clean Markdown</strong>, based <strong>exactly</strong> on your provided content, with <strong>all referenced links extracted and included</strong> at the end.</p>
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<h2 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h2>
<p>This episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em> examines Armenia’s national “prayer breakfast” and the deepening repression against the Armenian Apostolic Church. Our guest, Joel Veldkamp of Christian Solidarity International (CSI), discusses his recent visit to Armenia, the arrests of clergy, the targeting of Church leadership, and the near-total silence from Western governments and many Christian groups. We explore why CSI is sounding the alarm, what is happening behind the government’s PR messaging, and what these developments mean for Armenia’s identity and future.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Clergy arrests in Armenia</li>
<li>Pressure on the Armenian Apostolic Church</li>
<li>Prayer breakfast controversy</li>
<li>Western and Christian-group silence</li>
<li>CSI’s findings during its visit to Yerevan</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What is CSI’s history of work with Armenians since the 1990s?</li>
<li>How did the blockade of Artsakh shape CSI’s global human-rights mission?</li>
<li>What did CSI observe during its November visit to Armenia?</li>
<li>Why does Joel Veldkamp view the campaign against the Church as systematic and state-led?</li>
<li>What are the long-term consequences for Armenian identity if the Church is sidelined?</li>
<li>Who are the jailed clergy, and what are the accusations?</li>
<li>Why did Armenia’s Ministry of Justice block CSI from visiting detainees?</li>
<li>Why are some Christian groups in the US silent or supportive of the current government?</li>
<li>How does US geopolitical strategy shape Washington’s silence?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>National Prayer Breakfast coverage:
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33592035.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33592035.html</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Christian Solidarity International (about):
<a href="https://csi-usa.org/about-us/">https://csi-usa.org/about-us/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Horizon interview with Dr. John Eibner:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OEFM9n3Zk4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OEFM9n3Zk4</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>CSI visit to Yerevan (Asbarez):
<a href="https://asbarez.com/christian-solidarity-international-sounds-alarm-over-deteriorating-religious-freedom-human-rights-in-armenia/">https://asbarez.com/christian-solidarity-international-sounds-alarm-over-deteriorating-religious-freedom-human-rights-in-armenia/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Veldkamp briefing in Washington, DC:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR8cLPdYWKk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR8cLPdYWKk</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>US National Prayer Breakfast background:
<a href="https://www.opb.org/article/2023/02/02/congress-takes-reins-of-prayer-breakfast-from-secretive-christian-evangelical-group/">https://www.opb.org/article/2023/02/02/congress-takes-reins-of-prayer-breakfast-from-secretive-christian-evangelical-group/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>CSI social posts and documentation:
<a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1990450486307135876">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1990450486307135876</a>
<a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1990325276178293071">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1990325276178293071</a>
<a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1989734297746526618">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1989734297746526618</a>
<a href="https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1989221412922433930">https://x.com/CSI_humanrights/status/1989221412922433930</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Catholic News Agency report:
<a href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/267997/human-rights-advocates-decry-armenian-government-crackdown-on-christian-church">https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/267997/human-rights-advocates-decry-armenian-government-crackdown-on-christian-church</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>CSI statement on Capitol Hill:
<a href="https://www.csi-int.org/news/csi-warns-of-religious-repression-in-armenia-on-capitol-hill/">https://www.csi-int.org/news/csi-warns-of-religious-repression-in-armenia-on-capitol-hill/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>MEMRI report:
<a href="https://www.memri.org/reports/fratricide-armenian-church-hands-armenian-regime">https://www.memri.org/reports/fratricide-armenian-church-hands-armenian-regime</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan government lobbying in the US (California Courier):
<a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/armenia-pays-u-s-public-relations-firm-to-attack-the-armenian-apostolic-church">https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/armenia-pays-u-s-public-relations-firm-to-attack-the-armenian-apostolic-church</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/490/thumbnail-490.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/490/thumbnail-490.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18263234-joel-veldkamp-armenia-s-prayer-breakfast-and-the-crackdown-on-the-church-ep-490-nov-27-2025.mp3" length="23141576" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1925</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Garen Jinbachian - OSCE Human Dimension Conf, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and The West | Ep 489, Nov 26, 2025
[EP489]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/489-garen-jinbachian-osce-human-dimension-armenia-azerbaijan-silence-of-the-west/</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18259045-garen-jinbachian-osce-hd-conference-impunity-in-baku-repression-in-yerevan-ep-489-nov-26-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>489</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Garen Jinbachian - OSCE Human Dimension Conf, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and The West | Ep 489, Nov 26, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Nov 26, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s war crimes and impunity
* Sham trials of Artsakh leaders
* Silence of the OSCE and the West
* Armenia’s growing political repression
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 489 | Recorded: November 23, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Sham trials of Artsakh leaders
* Silence of the OSCE and the West
* Armenia’s growing political repression
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 489 | Recorded: November 23, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* Sham trials of Artsakh leaders
* Silence of the OSCE and the West
* Armenia’s growing political repression
* Attacks on the Armenian Church
Episode 489 | Recorded: November 23, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode we examine the erosion of democratic norms across the South Caucasus. We discuss Azerbaijan’s ongoing war crimes, the sham trials of former Artsakh leaders, and the silence of Western institutions such as the OSCE. We also look at Armenia’s internal political crackdowns, the rise of pre-trial detentions, and the government’s widening campaign against the Armenian Church. Our guest, <strong>Garen Jinbachian</strong> of ANCA-WR, shares insights from the OSCE Human Dimension Conference and his broader human rights advocacy work.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan’s war crimes and continued impunity</li>
<li>Sham trials of Artsakh’s elected leaders</li>
<li>OSCE inaction and Western political silence</li>
<li>Armenia’s growing political repression</li>
<li>Government pressure on the Armenian Apostolic Church</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Who participates in the OSCE Human Dimension Conference, and what is expected from it?</li>
<li>Was Armenia present or active at the conference?</li>
<li>What dangers does “selective justice” pose for the credibility of institutions like the OSCE?</li>
<li>How did delegates react to discussions about sham trials and ethnically cleansed Artsakh Armenians?</li>
<li>How do Western officials justify equal treatment of Aliyev’s regime and Armenia?</li>
<li>Is there any realistic path toward Western accountability for Azerbaijan’s abuses?</li>
<li>What remains of democracy in Armenia amid political detentions and attacks on the Church?</li>
<li>Why is the West silent while Armenia’s government mirrors authoritarian tactics?</li>
<li>What are ANCA’s priorities regarding persecution of the Church?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>OSCE Human Rights Event (ARF website):
<a href="https://www.arfd.am/new/news/82989/">https://www.arfd.am/new/news/82989/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Interview with Dr. John Eibner (Asbarez):
<a href="https://asbarez.com/watch-christian-solidarity-international-president-vows-to-continue-fighting-for-artsakh-and-its-people/">https://asbarez.com/watch-christian-solidarity-international-president-vows-to-continue-fighting-for-artsakh-and-its-people/</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Garen Jinbachian’s interview with CSI on YouTube:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVzbvChxga4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVzbvChxga4</a></p>
</li>
<li>
<p>ANC PR on OSCE Human Dimensions (Armenian):
<a href="https://ancnews.info/?p=24029">https://ancnews.info/?p=24029</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/489/thumbnail-489.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/489/thumbnail-489.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18259045-garen-jinbachian-osce-hd-conference-impunity-in-baku-repression-in-yerevan-ep-489-nov-26-2025.mp3" length="31246218" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2601</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Ukraine Talks, Armenia’s Crackdowns, and Rising Tensions | Ep 488, Nov 23, 2025
[EP488]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/488-hrant-mikaelian-ukraine-war-geneva-28-point-plan-armenia-political-crisis-impeachment-elections-tripp-energy-grid-kazakhstan/</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 10:08:39 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18253855-hrant-mikaelian-ukraine-talks-armenia-s-crackdowns-and-rising-tensions-ep-488-nov-23-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>488</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Ukraine Talks, Armenia’s Crackdowns, and Rising Tensions | Ep 488, Nov 23, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Armenia’s Growing Political Detentions
* Pashinyan Honored In Kazakhstan
* Rising Pressure On The Church
* Impeachment vs. Elections
* Pashinyan Seizes Power Grid
Episode 488 | Recorded: November 24, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Armenia’s Growing Political Detentions
* Pashinyan Honored In Kazakhstan
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* Pashinyan Seizes Power Grid
Episode 488 | Recorded: November 24, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* High-Stakes Ukraine Talks
* Armenia’s Growing Political Detentions
* Pashinyan Honored In Kazakhstan
* Rising Pressure On The Church
* Impeachment vs. Elections
* Pashinyan Seizes Power Grid
Episode 488 | Recorded: November 24, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h1>
<p>This episode covers shifting Ukraine negotiations, Kazakhstan’s diplomatic moves, Armenia’s tightening political climate, the government’s pressure on the Church, the debate over impeachment vs elections, the seizure of Armenia’s power grid, and the continued arrests of political opponents and media figures. We speak with Hrant Mikaelian about what these developments reveal about Armenia’s political direction and its place in a volatile region.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s shrinking Ukraine peace plan and the Geneva reduction to 19 points</li>
<li>Kazakhstan’s diplomatic balancing act and Pashinyan’s visit</li>
<li>Wheat shipments, Russia’s “Kiss of Yerevan” statement, and the political backlash</li>
<li>Vagharshapat election aftermath and the run-up to 2026</li>
<li>Impeachment vs elections and whether they can happen in parallel</li>
<li>The ENA license revocation and the power grid takeover</li>
<li>Expanding political detentions</li>
<li>Pressure on the Armenian Church and independent institutions</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Is the new proposal a Minsk 3?</li>
<li>Which elements make the peace plan unacceptable to Russia or Ukraine?</li>
<li>Why is Kazakhstan rising diplomatically and how does Armenia fit into its strategy?</li>
<li>What did Pashinyan’s award in Astana actually represent?</li>
<li>Was the wheat shipment meaningful or only symbolic?</li>
<li>What do the Vagharshapat results signal for 2026?</li>
<li>Can impeachment efforts and election planning proceed together without weakening the opposition?</li>
<li>Why did Armenia ignore the Stockholm Arbitration ruling on ENA?</li>
<li>How will the power grid seizure affect investor confidence?</li>
<li>What do current political detentions say about the state of civil liberties?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles-and-sources"><strong>Referenced Articles and Sources</strong></h1>
<h3 id="ukraine-peace-plan-and-geneva-talks"><strong>Ukraine Peace Plan and Geneva Talks</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://niccolo.substack.com/p/to-end-a-war">To End a War (Niccolò Substack)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://korybko.substack.com/p/analyzing-all-28-points-of-the-leaked">Analyzing the 28 Points (Korybko Substack)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/11/24/ukraine-peace-plan-europe-russia/">Washington Post on Geneva Reduction to 19 Points</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="kazakhstan-wheat-shipments-and-pashinyans-visit"><strong>Kazakhstan, Wheat Shipments, and Pashinyan’s Visit</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://astanatimes.com/2025/11/tokayev-trump-deepen-ties-with-17-billion-agreements/">Tokayev–Trump Meetings and Agreements</a></li>
<li><a href="https://russiaspivottoasia.com/russia-kazakhstan-november-2025-presidential-meetings-strategic-partnership-agreement-npp-financing/">Kazakhstan–Russia Strategic Agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2025/11/21/Nikol-Pashinyan-Kassym-Jomart-Tokayev/">Pashinyan’s Official Visit to Astana</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2025/11/21/Nikol-Pashinyan-Kazakhstan/">Tokayev Awards Pashinyan the Order of the Golden Eagle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33586213.html">Shipment of Russian Wheat to Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russias-accusation-and-armenias-response"><strong>Russia’s Accusation and Armenia’s Response</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://svr.gov.ru/smi/2025/11/potseluy-erevana.htm">SVR Statement “Kiss of Yerevan”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33588226.html">Pashinyan Denies Allegations</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="electric-networks-of-armenia-and-power-grid-seizure"><strong>Electric Networks of Armenia and Power Grid Seizure</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=93606">Stockholm Arbitration Ruling</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2025/11/18/armenias-regulator-moves-to-strip-karapetyans-firm-of-power-grid-license/">PSRC Revokes ENA License</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="political-prisoners"><strong>Political Prisoners</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33598388.html">Lydia Mantashyan Pre-Trial Detention Extended</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/488/thumbnail-488.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/488/thumbnail-488.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18253855-hrant-mikaelian-ukraine-talks-armenia-s-crackdowns-and-rising-tensions-ep-488-nov-23-2025.mp3" length="45165134" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3760</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hayk Mamijanyan - Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia, Vagharshapat, RPA Strategy | Ep 487, Nov 19, 2025
[EP487]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/487-hayk-mamijanyan-armenia-freedom-of-expression-at-risk-imnemnimi-arrests-vagharshapat-municipal-outcome/</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18217096-hayk-mamijanyan-freedom-of-speech-at-risk-in-armenia-vagharshapat-rpa-strategy-ep-487-nov-19-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>487</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hayk Mamijanyan - Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia, Vagharshapat, RPA Strategy | Ep 487, Nov 19, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia
* Vagharshapat Municipal Outcomes
* Republican Party Election Strategy
* Stand in Support of Independent Media and Journalism in Armenia
Episode 487 | Recorded: November 18, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* Vagharshapat Municipal Outcomes
* Republican Party Election Strategy
* Stand in Support of Independent Media and Journalism in Armenia
Episode 487 | Recorded: November 18, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia
* Vagharshapat Municipal Outcomes
* Republican Party Election Strategy
* Stand in Support of Independent Media and Journalism in Armenia
Episode 487 | Recorded: November 18, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h1>
<p>This conversation with opposition leader <strong>Hayk Mamijanyan</strong> covers the growing pressure on free speech in Armenia, the arrests of prominent podcasters, the wider pattern of attacks on journalists, and concerns about the state of Armenia’s judiciary and law enforcement. We also discuss the Vagharshapat municipal election, reported misuse of administrative resources, the merger of electoral districts, and what these trends may signal for the June 2026 parliamentary elections. Mamijanyan outlines the opposition’s strategy for the impeachment process and its limits, while noting the silence of international actors and the risks facing independent media.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Arrests of the Imnemnimi podcast hosts and the NSS raid</li>
<li>Attacks against 168.am and journalist Satik Seyranyan</li>
<li>Etchmiadzin podcaster arrest days before municipal elections</li>
<li>Vagharshapat municipal election results and irregularities</li>
<li>Use of administrative pressure and district enlargement</li>
<li>State of the judiciary and case assignments</li>
<li>The impeachment campaign and political strategy for 2026</li>
<li>Risks to media freedom and silence of international institutions</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Why were Narek Samsonyan and Vazgen Saghatelyan arrested, and why was the NSS involved?</li>
<li>What does the seizure of media equipment suggest about the intent of authorities?</li>
<li>How are fake accounts and AI-generated harassment being used against journalists such as Satik Seyranyan?</li>
<li>Is the case-assignment system in Armenian courts being manipulated?</li>
<li>Why do attacks on opposition figures trigger immediate arrests, while attacks on government critics go uninvestigated?</li>
<li>What irregularities were reported in the Vagharshapat/Etchmiadzin municipal elections?</li>
<li>Does the district enlargement amount to gerrymandering ahead of 2026?</li>
<li>Why were parliamentary opposition parties absent from the ballot?</li>
<li>What are the realistic prospects of impeachment, and what public pressure is needed?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://168.am">168.am homepage</a></li>
<li><a href="http://antifake.am">AntiFake.am website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AntiFakeam">AntiFake YouTube Channel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33590624.html">Azatutyun: Opposition podcasters detained</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-opposition-podcast-hosts-detained-after-criminal-complaint-by-parliamentary-speaker/">OC Media: Armenian opposition podcast hosts detained</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/11/13/opposition-media-seizure/3145183">Panorama.am: Equipment seizure</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33588301.html">Etchmiadzin podcaster incident</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pastinfo.am/hy/news/2025/11/16/lap9901/1950077">Pastinfo: Election reporting</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/KarinaKarapety8/status/1990438199169102191">Karina Karapetyan post (X/Twitter)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.elections.am/Elections/LocalProportional/28825">CEC election data</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2025/11/17/1522966/">Aravot coverage of election outcomes</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/487/thumbnail-487.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/487/thumbnail-487.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18217096-hayk-mamijanyan-freedom-of-speech-at-risk-in-armenia-vagharshapat-rpa-strategy-ep-487-nov-19-2025.mp3" length="34421819" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2865</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - Ukraine, Iran &amp; Israel, C5+1 in DC, Vagharshapat Municipal Outcome | Ep 486, Nov 16, 2025
[EP486]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/486-sergei-melkonian-ukraine-iran-israel-c5-1-washington-armenia-vagharshapat-municipal-outcome/</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18211200-sergei-melkonian-ukraine-iran-israel-vagharshapat-municipal-outcome-ep-486-nov-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>486</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Ukraine, Iran &amp; Israel, C5+1 in DC, Vagharshapat Municipal Outcome | Ep 486, Nov 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - November 16, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* C5+1 in Washington DC
* Vagharshapat/Etchmiadzin Municipal
Episode 486 | Recorded: November 17, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* C5+1 in Washington DC
* Vagharshapat/Etchmiadzin Municipal
Episode 486 | Recorded: November 17, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* C5+1 in Washington DC
* Vagharshapat/Etchmiadzin Municipal
Episode 486 | Recorded: November 17, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h1>
<p>We spoke with Dr. Sergei Melkonian about the shifting fronts in the Ukraine war, Russia’s winter strategy, and how these dynamics tie into Trump’s post-Alaska summit ceasefire diplomacy. We also discussed the rising risk of an Iran–Israel war, Iran’s view of the TRIPP (Trump Route) corridor in Armenia, and the strategic opening the U.S. is making in Central Asia with the C5+1 summit. Finally, we reviewed the Vagharshapat municipal election, reports of administrative resource abuse, the role of state-affiliated NGOs, and what this vote may or may not signal for Armenia’s 2026 parliamentary elections.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Ukraine war developments and Russia’s strategic posture</li>
<li>Regional escalation risks in the Iran–Israel arena</li>
<li>Armenia’s exposure if a wider regional war erupts</li>
<li>TRIPP corridor and Iran’s security concerns</li>
<li>U.S. expansion into Central Asia via C5+1</li>
<li>Turkey’s influence through the Organization of Turkic States</li>
<li>Vagharshapat municipal election results and administrative resource issues</li>
<li>Early signals for Armenia’s 2026 parliamentary elections</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>What is the current trajectory of the Ukraine war, and why is Russia rejecting a temporary ceasefire?</li>
<li>What lessons does Putin believe he learned from Armenia’s 1994 ceasefire?</li>
<li>If Iran–Israel war breaks out, what should Armenia prepare for?</li>
<li>How does Iran’s security apparatus view the TRIPP corridor?</li>
<li>What does Moscow think of the C5+1 summit and U.S. entry into Central Asia?</li>
<li>Why has Turkey’s military cooperation with Turkic states become a concern in Moscow?</li>
<li>Do the Vagharshapat results predict anything for the 2026 parliamentary elections?</li>
<li>Why did the major opposition blocs avoid the Vagharshapat ballot?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Sergei Melkonian:</strong> Armenia must keep the POW issue and the destruction of Armenian heritage in Artsakh in constant focus, regardless of the government’s avoidance of the topic.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik Manucharyan:</strong> Media repression is intensifying, from arrests of journalists to harassment of outlets. International journalists should cover these developments.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/trumps-c51-gamble-can-america-reclaim-central-asia/">Trump’s C5+1 Gamble: Can America Reclaim Central Asia?</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://astanatimes.com/2025/11/central-asia-and-us-reaffirm-commitment-to-economic-cooperation/">Central Asia and U.S. Reaffirm Commitment to Economic Cooperation</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/tag/critical-minerals/">Critical minerals – Geopolitical Monitor tag</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://russiaspivottoasia.com/russia-kazakhstan-november-2025-presidential-meetings-strategic-partnership-agreement-npp-financing/">Russia–Kazakhstan Strategic Partnership &amp; NPP Financing</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://timesca.com/kazakhstan-russia-sign-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-declaration/">Kazakhstan–Russia Strategic Partnership Declaration</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/chinas-xi-signs-treaty-elevate-ties-with-central-asia-2025-06-17/">China’s Xi signs treaty to elevate ties with Central Asia</a></strong></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="vagharshapat-municipal-election"><strong>Vagharshapat Municipal Election</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="https://pastinfo.am/hy/news/2025/11/16/lap9901/1950077">Pastinfo election report</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.elections.am/Elections/LocalProportional/28825">CEC official results</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2025/11/17/1522966/">Aravot election summary</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://x.com/KarinaKarapety8/status/1990438199169102191">Precinct-level note</a></strong></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/486/thumbnail-486.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/486/thumbnail-486.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18211200-sergei-melkonian-ukraine-iran-israel-vagharshapat-municipal-outcome-ep-486-nov-16-2025.mp3" length="42053722" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3501</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachikyan - Imnemnimi Podcasters Arrested, Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia | Ep 485, Nov 14, 2025
[EP485]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/485-arthur-khachikyan-imnemnimi-podcasters-arrested-freedom-of-expression-at-risk-in-armenia/</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18194124-arthur-khachikyan-imnemnimi-podcasters-arrested-freedom-of-expression-at-risk-in-armenia-ep-485-nov-14-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>485</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachikyan - Imnemnimi Podcasters Arrested, Freedom of Expression at Risk in Armenia | Ep 485, Nov 14, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Recorded on: November 14, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest of Imnemnimi Podcasters
* What are the Government’s Real Intentions?
* Silence of the West
* Call to All Media: Cover Aggressions Against Freedom of Expression in Armenia!
Episode 485 | Recorded: November 14, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest of Imnemnimi Podcasters
* What are the Government’s Real Intentions?
* Silence of the West
* Call to All Media: Cover Aggressions Against Freedom of Expression in Armenia!
Episode 485 | Recorded: November 14, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest of Imnemnimi Podcasters
* What are the Government’s Real Intentions?
* Silence of the West
* Call to All Media: Cover Aggressions Against Freedom of Expression in Armenia!
Episode 485 | Recorded: November 14, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary">Summary</h2>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, Dr. Arthur Khachikyan discusses the rapid erosion of free expression in Armenia after the arrest of Imnemnimi podcasters Vazgen Saghatelyan and Narek Samsonyan. The conversation traces how a personal insult case against Speaker Alen Simonyan turned into an NSS raid on the AntiFake / Imnemnimi studio, pretrial detention for four staff, and the seizure of all production equipment. Khachikyan places this case in a wider pattern of pressure on journalists, lawyers, priests, and political scientists, and stresses how Western silence and double standards enable this crackdown. The episode ends with a call to Armenian and international audiences to use what remains of their freedom to expose this campaign and defend what is left of Armenia’s democracy.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Arrest and pretrial detention of Imnemnimi hosts Vazgen Saghatelyan and Narek Samsonyan, and the NSS raid on their studio.</li>
<li>Confiscation of all production equipment from AntiFake / Imnemnimi, including cameras, lights, microphones, and computers.</li>
<li>Use of “hooliganism” charges as a new tool to punish political speech after earlier insult and hate speech bills met resistance.</li>
<li>A wider system of intimidation against journalists, lawyers, priests, and political scientists who criticize the authorities.</li>
<li>The collapse of political culture in Armenia, including public spitting incidents and coarse language at the highest levels of power.</li>
<li>Western double standards on human rights, comparing reactions to Kosovo, Gaza, and Syria with silence on the ethnic cleansing of Armenians.</li>
<li>The role of Western governments, embassies, and NGOs in enabling Armenia’s leadership through selective concern and inaction.</li>
<li>A call for independent media, diaspora communities, and listeners to expose the Imnemnimi case and the broader campaign against free speech.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How did a verbal clash with the Speaker of Parliament lead to a national security raid, mass equipment seizure, and pretrial detention for podcasters?</li>
<li>What does the seizure of cameras, microphones, computers, and even tripods say about the state’s real goals toward independent media?</li>
<li>In what ways has the “hooliganism” article become a replacement for insult and hate speech laws that failed to pass?</li>
<li>How does the treatment of Imnemnimi fit into a wider pattern of arrests and pressure against lawyers, priests, and political opponents?</li>
<li>Why are Western embassies and human rights organizations silent when Armenian authorities use methods that would not be accepted in their own countries?</li>
<li>What do comparisons with Kosovo, Gaza, Syria, and the 2018 “Velvet Revolution” reveal about Western interests and double standards?</li>
<li>What can independent journalists, diaspora Armenians, and ordinary listeners do to bring attention to this crackdown and defend what remains of Armenia’s democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33590624.html">Azatutyun report on the arrests of Imnemnimi / AntiFake podcasters and studio raid</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqrRHbuU-UY">Imnemnimi / AntiFake episode with former president Serge Sargsyan (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://antifake.am">AntiFake.am website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AntiFakeam">AntiFake YouTube channel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-opposition-podcast-hosts-detained-after-criminal-complaint-by-parliamentary-speaker/">“Armenian opposition podcast hosts detained after criminal complaint by parliamentary speaker” – OC Media</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/11/13/opposition-media-seizure/3145183">“Armenian expert condemns seizure of opposition media equipment” – Panorama.am</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/485/thumbnail-485.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/485/thumbnail-485.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18194124-arthur-khachikyan-imnemnimi-podcasters-arrested-freedom-of-expression-at-risk-in-armenia-ep-485-nov-14-2025.mp3" length="17607654" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1464</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Martirosyan - 44 Day War, Ukraine, Iran-Israel, Sargsyan and Kocharyan Interviews, Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson | Ep 484, Nov 9, 2025
[EP484]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/484-arthur-martirosyan-44-day-war-ukraine-iran-israel-sargsyan-kocharyan-interviews-narek-karapetyan-on-tucker-carlson/</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18172765-arthur-martirosyan-44-day-war-ukraine-iran-israel-sargsyan-and-kocharyan-interviews-narek-karapetyan-on-tucker-carlson-ep-484-nov-9-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>484</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Martirosyan - 44 Day War, Ukraine, Iran-Israel, Sargsyan and Kocharyan Interviews, Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson | Ep 484, Nov 9, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - November 9, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Nov 9: 44-Day War 5 years Hence
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* Pres. Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
* Pres. Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson
Episode 484 | Recorded: November 10, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Nov 9: 44-Day War 5 years Hence
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* Pres. Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
* Pres. Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson
Episode 484 | Recorded: November 10, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Nov 9: 44-Day War 5 years Hence
* Ukraine and Iran-Israel Conflicts
* Pres. Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
* Pres. Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson
Episode 484 | Recorded: November 10, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Five years after the 44-Day War, we take stock of what changed and what did not. Arthur Martirosyan reviews lessons Armenia still has not learned, then looks at the <strong>Ukraine war</strong>’s likely path and the risks of an <strong>Iran-Israel escalation</strong> for Armenia. We discuss key claims from <strong>Serge Sargsyan</strong>’s long interview on the Imnemnimi Podcast and <strong>Robert Kocharyan</strong>’s  interviewon Channel 5, including alleged missed ceasefire windows, and we cover <strong>Narek Karapetyan’s appearance on Tucker Carlson</strong> about church persecution and Armenia’s drift toward rule by law.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Nov. 9 milestone, five years since the 44-Day War</li>
<li>Ukraine war outlook and likely trajectory</li>
<li>Iran-Israel tensions and implications for Armenia, including potential spillovers</li>
<li>Highlights from Serge Sargsyan’s long interview on the Imnemnimi Podcast</li>
<li>Highlights from Robert Kocharyan’s interview, including alleged rejected ceasefire offers and battlefield losses</li>
<li>Narek Karapetyan on Tucker Carlson, audience reach and impact</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What lessons did Armenia fail to internalize after the 44-Day War, and with what consequences today</li>
<li>Where is the Ukraine war headed, and what drives the most probable scenario</li>
<li>How could an Iran-Israel escalation affect Armenia’s security and economy</li>
<li>How to assess Sargsyan’s claims about OSCE proposals, EU roles, and steps that “triggered” the war</li>
<li>Were viable ceasefire offers rejected on Oct. 17–19, and what were the human costs</li>
<li>Who was the real audience for the Tucker segment, and what impact did it have</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTWK-C0ihg">Serge Sargsyan’s long interview on the Imnemnimi Podcast (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1234472">Armenpress coverage of Sargsyan interview</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d89GChplYTw">Robert Kocharyan interview on Channel 5 (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/11/08/2309372.html">168.am coverage, Nov. 8, 2025</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/11/09/2309776.html">168.am coverage, Nov. 9, 2025</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsSmQEJyO-g">Tucker Carlson clip with Narek Karapetyan and Robert Amsterdam (YouTube)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/groong">Patreon - Support Groong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/484/thumbnail-484.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/484/thumbnail-484.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18172765-arthur-martirosyan-44-day-war-ukraine-iran-israel-sargsyan-and-kocharyan-interviews-narek-karapetyan-on-tucker-carlson-ep-484-nov-9-2025.mp3" length="55715838" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4640</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin  Poghosyan - Ukraine War update, Pashinyan’s Persecution of Church and Opposition intensifies | Ep 483, Nov 2, 2025
[EP483]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/483-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-war-pashinyan-persecution-of-armenian-apostolic-church-and-opposition-intensifies/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 02:20:32 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18130172-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-war-update-pashinyan-s-persecution-of-church-and-opposition-intensifies-ep-483-nov-2-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>483</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin  Poghosyan - Ukraine War update, Pashinyan’s Persecution of Church and Opposition intensifies | Ep 483, Nov 2, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - November 2, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war status and U.S.–Russia dynamics
* Church–state tensions and religious prosecutions
* Opposition arrests, trials, and civil liberties
* Border demarcation, enclaves
Episode 483 | Recorded: November 3, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war status and U.S.–Russia dynamics
* Church–state tensions and religious prosecutions
* Opposition arrests, trials, and civil liberties
* Border demarcation, enclaves
Episode 483 | Recorded: November 3, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine war status and U.S.–Russia dynamics
* Church–state tensions and religious prosecutions
* Opposition arrests, trials, and civil liberties
* Border demarcation, enclaves
Episode 483 | Recorded: November 3, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="groong-week-in-review-ep-483--show-notes">Groong Week in Review, Ep 483 — Show Notes</h1>
<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan joins us and We cover the Ukraine war’s trajectory and why a simple “freeze” only defers conflict, review US–Russia dynamics under Trump, and consider how a China focus and possible Venezuela moves could affect Armenia. We examine Pashinyan’s confrontation with the Armenian Church and the wave of opposition detentions, then dig into border demarcation, possible enclave trades, and Baku’s “Western Azerbaijan” rhetoric. We also discuss a second-track meeting in Yerevan that included Artsakh-blockade figures, and Pashinyan&rsquo;s new “Police Guard” plan.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Ukraine war scenarios, manpower, timelines, and why a bare ceasefire is unstable</li>
<li>US–Russia relations under Trump, Europe’s role, and a China-first priority set</li>
<li>Church–state clash in Armenia, arrests near the Catholicos, and political timing</li>
<li>Demarcation and enclaves, and the risk of false “equivalence” with 2021–22 incursions</li>
<li>“Western Azerbaijan” narrative and settlement pressure on Armenia</li>
<li>A second-track meeting in Yerevan that included a Lachin blockade participant</li>
<li>The “Police Guard” concept and civil-liberties concerns</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>If the front “freezes,” what happens next, and who benefits</li>
<li>How far Trump can steer Europe or Zelensky, and how a China focus shapes choices</li>
<li>What Pashinyan’s endgame is with the Church, and whether identity engineering is at work</li>
<li>Whether Armenia will concede enclaves, and how to avoid false “equivalence” with 2021–22 incursions</li>
<li>How serious Aliyev is about settling Azerbaijanis in Armenia, and on what timeline</li>
<li>What confidence-building means if invitees helped blockade Artsakh</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> Be cautious after August 2025, weigh threats, and avoid wishful thinking as Armenia heads toward 2026.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Concern over limited and ambiguous backing from Antelias for the Catholicos amid church pressures.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed:</strong> Recommended the film <em>House of Dynamite</em> a modern take on nuclear-crisis risk, as a cautionary lens on current tensions.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33579876.html">Brother, Nephew Of Catholicos Arrested As Church-State Standoff Deepens In Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33577232.html">Armenian Church To Fight For ‘Seized’ Monastery</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33578044.html">Armenian Speaker Rationalizes Another Azeri Demand</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenia-s-prime-minister-s-chief-of-staff-announces-intensive-contacts-with-azerbaijan-and-outlines-/">Armenia’s Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff Announces Intensive Contacts with Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://azertag.az/en/xeber/president_the_return_of_azerbaijanis_to_present_day_armenia_should_not_frighten_the_armenian_people_and_state-3838991">President: The return of Azerbaijanis to present-day Armenia should not frighten the Armenian people and state</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thearmenianreport.com/post/police-detain-masis-mayor-davit-hambardzumyan-moments-after-he-steps-off-plane">Police Detain Masis Mayor Davit Hambardzumyan Moments After He Steps Off Plane</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33571563.html">New Charge Brought Against Jailed Opposition Mayor</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1233814">“New page in history,” Pashinyan says at Police Guard inception</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33579906.html">Armenia Launches Police Guard As Part Of Domestic Security Reform</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/483/thumbnail-483.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/483/thumbnail-483.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18130172-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-war-update-pashinyan-s-persecution-of-church-and-opposition-intensifies-ep-483-nov-2-2025.mp3" length="43531305" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3625</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Euronest, Aliyev Transit Move, Gyumri Mayor Arrest, Pashinyan vs. Church | Ep 481, Oct 26, 2025
[EP481]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/481-arthur-khachatryan-euronest-aliyev-armenia-transit-move-tripp-gryumri-mayor-arrest-pashinyan-attacks-church/</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18114471-arthur-khachatryan-euronest-aliyev-transit-move-gyumri-mayor-arrest-pashinyan-vs-church-ep-481-oct-26-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>481</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Euronest, Aliyev Transit Move, Gyumri Mayor Arrest, Pashinyan vs. Church | Ep 481, Oct 26, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 10/26/2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Euronest session takeaways
* Aliyev’s transit move and TRIPP
* Gyumri mayor arrest fallout
* Pashinyan’s push to control the Church
Episode 481 | Recorded: October 29, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Euronest session takeaways
* Aliyev’s transit move and TRIPP
* Gyumri mayor arrest fallout
* Pashinyan’s push to control the Church
Episode 481 | Recorded: October 29, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Euronest session takeaways
* Aliyev’s transit move and TRIPP
* Gyumri mayor arrest fallout
* Pashinyan’s push to control the Church
Episode 481 | Recorded: October 29, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We spoke with MP Arthur Khachatryan about three fronts shaping Armenia’s near term, Euronest politics and what EU rhetoric vs. executive policy means for Yerevan, Aliyev’s transit announcement and the TRIPP push, and a deepening domestic clampdown that now targets the Armenian Church and elected local officials. We also covered the Gyumri mayor’s detention and new “Article 422” speech charges, how these moves feed into the 2026 elections, and why real de-blocking requires practical, two-way access rather than headlines.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Euronest session in Yerevan, EU politics vs. practice</li>
<li>Aliyev’s “transit” move, TRIPP, and real de-blocking tests</li>
<li>Crackdown on the Armenian Church and use of a defrocked priest</li>
<li>Gyumri mayor’s arrest, Article 422, and due process concerns</li>
<li>2026 elections landscape, opposition strategies, and civic mood</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What did Armenia gain from hosting Euronest, and what did EU legislators signal versus EU executives?</li>
<li>Does Aliyev’s announcement change border reality for Armenian goods and travelers, or is it a one-off?</li>
<li>What would genuine de-blocking look like for rail and road, including Ijevan–Ghazakh and Sadarak–Yeraskh gaps?</li>
<li>Who benefits from a weakened Armenian Church, and how far can state interference go under the Constitution?</li>
<li>How do the Gyumri detentions and Article 422 affect local governance and national quorum math ahead of 2026?</li>
<li>Can opposition parties and emerging movements translate discontent into a coherent 2026 strategy?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Armenia has become a surveillance state. The scope needed to film and hold kompromat suggests far greater capacity than is publicly acknowledged, which clashes with EU praise.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur Khachatryan:</strong> Pashinyan’s budget address reframed the army from &ldquo;combat-ready&rdquo; to “defense-capable,” which signals externally imposed limits and invites new demands. It is a troubling shift for deterrence and doctrine, and indicates capitulation.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/aliyev-lifts-ban-on-goods-transit-to-armenia-while-touting-zangezur-corridor/">Aliyev lifts ban on goods transit to Armenia while touting Zangezur Corridor</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyan-eager-to-open-armenias-roads-for-transit-between-turkey-and-azerbaijan/">Pashinyan eager to open Armenia’s roads for transit between Turkey and Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://azertag.az/ru/xeber/prezident_ilham_aliev_azerbaidzhan_snyal_vse_ogranicheniya_na_tranzit_gruzov_v_armeniyu_kotorye_sushchestvovali_s_momenta_okkupacii-3815479">Azerbaijan removes all restrictions on transit of goods to Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1232773">Armenpress coverage related to transit and access</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/481/thumbnail-481.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/481/thumbnail-481.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18114471-arthur-khachatryan-euronest-aliyev-transit-move-gyumri-mayor-arrest-pashinyan-vs-church-ep-481-oct-26-2025.mp3" length="35533799" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2958</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - Anastas Mikoyan, An Armenian Reformer in Khrushchev's Kremlin| Ep 480, Oct 22, 2025
[EP480]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/480-pietro-shakarian-anastas-mikoyan-an-armenian-reformer-in-khrushchevs-kremlin/</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 04:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18055322-pietro-shakarian-anastas-mikoyan-an-armenian-reformer-in-khrushchev-s-kremlin-ep-480-oct-22-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>480</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - Anastas Mikoyan, An Armenian Reformer in Khrushchev's Kremlin| Ep 480, Oct 22, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: October 18, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Research journey, archives Moscow and Yerevan
* Mikoyan’s vision of confederation for the USSR
* Artsakh’s status within Soviet constraints
* De-Stalinization and Armenia’s cultural thaw
* Mikoyan’s stance toward the Armenian Church
Episode 480 | Recorded on October 18, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Research journey, archives Moscow and Yerevan
* Mikoyan’s vision of confederation for the USSR
* Artsakh’s status within Soviet constraints
* De-Stalinization and Armenia’s cultural thaw
* Mikoyan’s stance toward the Armenian Church
Episode 480 | Recorded on October 18, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Research journey, archives Moscow and Yerevan
* Mikoyan’s vision of confederation for the USSR
* Artsakh’s status within Soviet constraints
* De-Stalinization and Armenia’s cultural thaw
* Mikoyan’s stance toward the Armenian Church
Episode 480 | Recorded on October 18, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="ep-480---pietro-shakarian">Ep-480 - Pietro Shakarian</h1>
<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Dr. Pietro Shakarian explains the core arguments and new archival findings behind his book on Anastas Mikoyan. We cover Mikoyan’s effort to devolve power inside the USSR during Khrushchev’s constitutional reform drive, what a confederal model could have meant, and why it stalled. We discuss Mikoyan’s role in Armenia’s cultural thaw, including rehabilitations tied to his 1954 Yerevan speech. Shakarian details his research trail across Russian and Armenian archives, 1960s Artsakh petitions, Mikoyan’s stance toward the Armenian Church, and how his Armenian identity surfaced during Cold War crises.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Mikoyan’s confederation idea under Khrushchev’s reforms</li>
<li>De-Stalinization in Armenia and 1954 Yerevan speech</li>
<li>Research path across Moscow and Yerevan archives</li>
<li>Artsakh petitions and 1960s activism</li>
<li>Mikoyan’s view of the Armenian Church</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How far did Khrushchev’s reforms move the USSR toward a confederation, and why did it fail in practice</li>
<li>What “radical devolution of powers” would mean for union and republic relations</li>
<li>Which Armenian writers and officials were affected by post-Stalin rehabilitations</li>
<li>What new evidence from Moscow and Yerevan archives changes prior scholarship</li>
<li>How Mikoyan’s Armenian identity and stance toward the Church shaped decisions and relationships</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles-and-sources">Referenced Articles and Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><em>Anastas Mikoyan, an Armenian Reformer in Khrushchev’s Kremlin</em> – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anastas-Mikoyan-Armenian-Reformer-Khrushchevs/dp/0253073553/ref=sr_1_1">Amazon</a></li>
<li>Prior Groong episode with Pietro Shakarian (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/28">Episode 28</a>)</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/480/thumbnail-480.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/480/thumbnail-480.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18055322-pietro-shakarian-anastas-mikoyan-an-armenian-reformer-in-khrushchev-s-kremlin-ep-480-oct-22-2025.mp3" length="54630720" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4549</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, Armenian Government Repressions | Ep 479, Oct 19, 2025
[EP479]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/479-dziunik-aghajanian-ukraine-war-budapest-summit-gaza-ceasefire-iran-tripp-armenian-church-repressions/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 02:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18052480-dziunik-aghajanian-ukraine-israel-gaza-armenian-government-repressions-ep-479-oct-19-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>479</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, Armenian Government Repressions | Ep 479, Oct 19, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - October 19, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine War, Trump - Putin Upcoming Summit
* Israel-Gaza “Cease Fire”
* Armenian Government Repressions Accelerate
Episode 479 | Recorded: October 20, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine War, Trump - Putin Upcoming Summit
* Israel-Gaza “Cease Fire”
* Armenian Government Repressions Accelerate
Episode 479 | Recorded: October 20, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine War, Trump - Putin Upcoming Summit
* Israel-Gaza “Cease Fire”
* Armenian Government Repressions Accelerate
Episode 479 | Recorded: October 20, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We spoke with Ambassador Dziunik Aghajanian about three linked fronts that shape Armenia’s risk picture today: the Ukraine war and a possible Trump–Putin meeting in Budapest, the Gaza ceasefire push and the roles of Qatar and Turkey, and widening political prosecutions in Armenia, including arrests of senior clergy and opposition figures. We also looked at the risk of strikes on Iran, why nearby corridors matter for Tehran’s calculus, and how these external pressures feed back into Armenia’s domestic scene. The conversation focused on the week ending October 19, 2025.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Ukraine war inflection points and outcomes</li>
<li>Budapest meeting optics and Orban’s role</li>
<li>Gaza ceasefire mechanics and mediators</li>
<li>Risks and triggers for strikes on Iran</li>
<li>Corridors and Iran’s view of Armenia</li>
<li>Arrests of clergy and opposition in Armenia</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What would Washington consider success in Ukraine, and how would that shape Russia’s posture in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>If Trump and Putin meet in Budapest, what signals should Armenia watch for before and after the meeting?</li>
<li>Is the Gaza ceasefire a pause or a bridge to a broader deal, and how central are Qatar and Turkey in that process?</li>
<li>How real is near-term escalation against Iran, and what indicators would precede it?</li>
<li>What goals drive the arrests of clergy, lawyers, and mayors in Armenia, and what does this say about rule of law?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Dziunik:</strong> Sharm el-Sheikh was optics, not substance. The core struggle is over Armenian identity, not a narrow Armenia–Azerbaijan frame.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> The Armenian Church is integral to identity, and attempts to reshape it will not succeed.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>Washington Post, on reported Russia–Ukraine terms and Trump–Putin context:<br>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/18/putin-trump-donetsk-war-ukraine/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/18/putin-trump-donetsk-war-ukraine/</a></li>
<li>Responsible Statecraft, on risk of new Israel strikes on Iran:<br>
<a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-new-attacks-iran/">https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-new-attacks-iran/</a></li>
<li>Reuters, on efforts to bring Azerbaijan and Central Asian states into the Abraham Accords:<br>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-eyes-bringing-azerbaijan-central-asian-nations-into-abraham-accords-2025-08-01/">https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-eyes-bringing-azerbaijan-central-asian-nations-into-abraham-accords-2025-08-01/</a></li>
<li>Azatutyun, on church and opposition-related arrests:<br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33559754.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33559754.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33561617.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33561617.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33560730.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33560730.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33561736.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33561736.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33562765.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33562765.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33562833.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33562833.html</a></li>
<li>International Commission of Jurists, on detention of defense lawyer Alexander Kochubayev:<br>
<a href="https://www.icj.org/armenia-icj-condemns-detention-of-defence-lawyer-alexander-kochubaev-and-calls-for-his-immediate-release/">https://www.icj.org/armenia-icj-condemns-detention-of-defence-lawyer-alexander-kochubaev-and-calls-for-his-immediate-release/</a></li>
<li>Pastinfo item referenced in discussion (see outline for specific link):<br>
<a href="https://pastinfo.am/">https://pastinfo.am/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/479/thumbnail-479.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/479/thumbnail-479.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18052480-dziunik-aghajanian-ukraine-israel-gaza-armenian-government-repressions-ep-479-oct-19-2025.mp3" length="42606239" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3547</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - OTS &amp; CIS summits, Trump-Aliyev Tensions, Armenia Opposition Gears up for 2026  | Ep 478, Oct 12, 2025
[EP478]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/478-hrant-mikaelian-cis-ots-trump-route-armenia-opposition-karapetyan-kocharyan-tatoyan-vanetsyan-tsarukyan-2026/</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18019550-hrant-mikaelian-ots-cis-summits-trump-aliyev-tensions-armenia-opposition-for-2026-ep-478-oct-12-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>478</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - OTS &amp; CIS summits, Trump-Aliyev Tensions, Armenia Opposition Gears up for 2026  | Ep 478, Oct 12, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - October 12, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Aliyev pushes “Zangezur Corridor” at OTS
* Pashinyan pitches “Trump Route” at CIS
* Putin–Aliyev meeting eases tensions
* Armenia’s opposition gears up for 2026
Episode 478 | Recorded: October 14, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* Pashinyan pitches “Trump Route” at CIS
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Episode 478 | Recorded: October 14, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* Pashinyan pitches “Trump Route” at CIS
* Putin–Aliyev meeting eases tensions
* Armenia’s opposition gears up for 2026
Episode 478 | Recorded: October 14, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This episode covers Armenia’s growing geopolitical balancing act as regional and domestic politics intensify ahead of the 2026 elections. Hrant Mikaelian joins to analyze Pashinyan’s “Trump Route” pitch at the CIS summit, Aliyev’s renewed push for the Zangezur Corridor, and Russia’s diplomatic recalibration after the AZAL crash. The discussion then turns to Armenia’s changing political landscape, including Samvel Karapetyan’s <em>In Our Way</em> movement, Arman Tatoyan’s <em>Wings of Unity</em>, and Robert Kocharyan’s proposal for a more sovereign, multi-route strategy to connect Armenia with its neighbors.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>CIS Summit in Dushanbe</strong> – Pashinyan’s pitch of the “Trump Route” (TRIPP) and its reception among CIS leaders.</li>
<li><strong>Putin–Aliyev Meeting</strong> – Russia’s renewed apology over the AZAL crash and a cautious thaw in relations.</li>
<li><strong>OTS Summit in Gabbala</strong> – Aliyev’s aggressive promotion of the “Zangezur Corridor” within the Pan-Turkic framework.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia’s Domestic Politics</strong> –
<ul>
<li>Samvel Karapetyan’s <em>In Our Way</em> movement and Daron Acemoglu’s appearance at its rally.</li>
<li>The entry of Arman Tatoyan’s <em>Wings of Unity</em> initiative.</li>
<li>Robert Kocharyan’s press conference outlining an alternative to the TRIPP corridor and major economic projects.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> A satirical “rant” comparing the short TRIPP (42 km) to the longer Yeraskh–Julfa line (120 km), highlighting Armenia’s need for sovereignty and reciprocity in any transport project.</li>
<li><strong>Hrant:</strong> Warned that Turkey and Azerbaijan may later push the U.S. out of the TRIPP framework and urged Washington to understand the deeper regional interests at play.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-azerbaijan-ukraine-putin-plane-crash/33555688.html">RFE/RL: <em>Russia, Azerbaijan, Ukraine – Putin’s Apology over Plane Crash</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://ca.news.yahoo.com/azerbaijan-releases-russian-journalist-house-082449794.html">Yahoo News: <em>Azerbaijan Releases Russian Journalist to House Arrest</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/ex-armenian-president-kocharyan-announces-parliamentary-elections-bid/">OC Media: <em>Ex-Armenian President Kocharyan Announces Parliamentary Bid</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/10/09/2292790.html">168.am: <em>Coverage of Kocharyan Press Conference and Political Movements</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/">Azatutyun.am: <em>Reports on CIS and OTS Summits, Domestic Political Shifts</em></a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/478/thumbnail-478.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/478/thumbnail-478.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/18019550-hrant-mikaelian-ots-cis-summits-trump-aliyev-tensions-armenia-opposition-for-2026-ep-478-oct-12-2025.mp3" length="34507332" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2872</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Ajapahyan Sentenced, Moldova, EPC, Peace Act, Dismantling the Armenian Military | Ep 477, Oct 5, 2025
[EP477]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/477-benyamin-poghosyan-ajapahyan-sentencing-moldova-elections-armenia-epc-summit-peace-act-military-personnel-shortages-defense-budget-cuts/</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 15:20:32 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17978860-benyamin-poghosyan-ajapahyan-sentenced-moldova-epc-peace-act-dismantling-the-armenian-military-ep-477-oct-5-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>477</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Ajapahyan Sentenced, Moldova, EPC, Peace Act, Dismantling the Armenian Military | Ep 477, Oct 5, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Ajapahyan Sentenced: 2 Years in Jail for speaking out!
* Moldova Election Lessons
* EPC in Copenhagen, WSF in Warsaw
* PEACE Act politics
* Dismantling the Armenian Military
Episode 477 | Recorded: October 6, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Ajapahyan Sentenced: 2 Years in Jail for speaking out!
* Moldova Election Lessons
* EPC in Copenhagen, WSF in Warsaw
* PEACE Act politics
* Dismantling the Armenian Military
Episode 477 | Recorded: October 6, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Ajapahyan Sentenced: 2 Years in Jail for speaking out!
* Moldova Election Lessons
* EPC in Copenhagen, WSF in Warsaw
* PEACE Act politics
* Dismantling the Armenian Military
Episode 477 | Recorded: October 6, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>With <strong>Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan</strong> We cover Archbishop Mikayel Ajapahyan’s two-year sentence and what it signals in an lethargic Armenia, Moldova’s election and diaspora voting, the EU’s patterns of force ahead of Armenia’s 2026 vote, takeaways from the European Political Community (EPC) in Copenhagen and the Warsaw Security Forum (WSF), the politics of the U.S. PEACE Act, defense shifts including a shortened 18-month military service plan contrasted with acknowledged military serviceman shortage, and the internal fight over the stalled 44-day war report.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Ajapahyan sentencing and public apathy</li>
<li>Moldova vote, access issues, diaspora turnout</li>
<li>EU posture before Armenia’s 2026 elections</li>
<li>EPC Copenhagen and WSF Warsaw takeaways</li>
<li>U.S. PEACE Act and freedom of expression risks</li>
<li>Reconciling defense budget cuts, shortened military service, and military personnel shortages</li>
<li>War report standoff in parliament</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What goal does Ajapahyan’s verdict serve in today’s politics?</li>
<li>What lessons from Moldova matter for Armenia’s 2026 race?</li>
<li>How do EU timing and optics shape Armenia’s field?</li>
<li>Did EPC and Warsaw deliver anything concrete?</li>
<li>How could the PEACE Act affect speech and politics?</li>
<li>What trade-offs come with conscription cuts and budget shifts?</li>
<li>Why is the 44-day war report being held back?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> Warns of heightened political turbulence as Armenia approaches the 2026 elections.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Notes that Arman Tatoyan has officially entered Armenian politics and flags what this could mean for the opposition landscape.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/armenian-archbishop-sentenced-2-years-prison-alleged-coup-126192611">Armenian archbishop sentenced to 2 years in prison over alleged coup plot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://prosecutor.am/article/4948">Prosecutor General’s Office statement on Archbishop Mikael Ajapahyan case</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/danioanis/posts/pfbid0mSHu2cyqtmCLxwtCvvNt2XTdPJ62wkGSJiebarT7CiQgNpeFJUxGwNh5D9XrGH4Ql">Daniel Ioannisyan on Ajapahyan speech complaint</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/moldova-bars-two-pro-russian-parties-from-high-stakes-parliamentary-election">Moldova bars two pro-Russian parties from high-stakes parliamentary election</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2025/09/29/7221299/">How Sandu defeated Putin and what this victory could mean</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/09/29/kremlin-claims-moldova-barred-hundreds-of-thousands-from-voting-in-russia-a90655">Kremlin Claims Moldova Barred Hundreds of Thousands From Voting in Russia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZL-5qH55v4">EPC leaders closing session in Copenhagen (video)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33547255.html">Pashinian, Aliyev Meet Again</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1231192">National Assembly adopts statement on establishment of peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1231164">Parliament majority drafts declaration endorsing peace deal, calls to avoid aggravating narratives</a></li>
<li><a href="https://issa.house.gov/media/press-releases/icymi-rep-issa-and-rep-bilirakis-introduce-peace-act">ICYMI: Rep. Issa and Rep. Bilirakis Introduce the PEACE Act</a></li>
<li><a href="https://issa.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/issa.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/peace-act-10.2.25.pdf">Preventing Escalation and Advancing Caucasus Engagement Act, draft text (PDF)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33527942.html">Armenian Government Plans Shorter Military Service</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33545240.html">Armenian Official Admits Military Personnel Shortage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/10/02/military-medals/3142010">Armenian servicemen return medals in protest against government policies</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/477/thumbnail-477.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/477/thumbnail-477.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17978860-benyamin-poghosyan-ajapahyan-sentenced-moldova-epc-peace-act-dismantling-the-armenian-military-ep-477-oct-5-2025.mp3" length="50458083" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4202</itunes:duration></item><item><title>44-Day War, A Tale of Betrayal | Ep 476, Sep 28, 2025
[EP476]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/476-hovik-manucharyan-asbed-bedrossian-44-day-war-a-tale-of-betrayal/</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17937714-44-day-war-a-tale-of-betrayal-ep-476-sep-28-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>476</itunes:episode><itunes:title>44-Day War, A Tale of Betrayal | Ep 476, Sep 28, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Breakdown of talks and secret meetings
* Failures and propaganda during the war
* Aftermath, revisionism, and political responsibility
Episode 476 | Recorded: September 28, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* Failures and propaganda during the war
* Aftermath, revisionism, and political responsibility
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* Breakdown of talks and secret meetings
* Failures and propaganda during the war
* Aftermath, revisionism, and political responsibility
Episode 476 | Recorded: September 28, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary:</h1>
<p>We reflect on September 27 and the 44-Day War, tracing how Pashinyan’s 2018 rise set the stage for broken negotiations, secret leader-to-leader contacts, poor defense choices, and a propaganda-laden war that the Armenian government failed to mobilize for. We revisit ceasefire rejections, Russia’s stand-off posture, and the postwar slide into demilitarization, border retreats, and historical revisionism. We close on accountability, the need for a real war commission, and the right of Artsakh’s people to return.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s rise and Western backing</li>
<li>Breakdown of talks and secret meetings</li>
<li>Failures and propaganda during the war</li>
<li>Aftermath, revisionism, and political responsibility</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why did Serzh Sargsyan resign rather than confront the 2018 movement?</li>
<li>Did Pashinyan stall or reset Minsk-Group talks and pursue backchannels with Aliyev?</li>
<li>How did defense procurement shifts and army restructuring weaken readiness?</li>
<li>Why was the state not fully mobilized, and why were ceasefires rejected?</li>
<li>What explains Russia’s limited role and the peacekeeper calculus?</li>
<li>Can there be dignified peace amid ethnic cleansing, demilitarization, and “memory-holing”?</li>
<li>What should a genuine, independent war inquiry examine first?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>Piotr Świtalski book on Armenia’s 2018 events (PISM): <a href="https://pism.pl/upload/images/artykuly/2f97f331-84d8-4f9d-963a-39cb046dd8c1//1599134927962.pdf">https://pism.pl/upload/images/artykuly/2f97f331-84d8-4f9d-963a-39cb046dd8c1//1599134927962.pdf</a></li>
<li>Emil Sanamyan, “Saint Nick of Armenia” (oDR): <a href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/saint-nick-of-armenia-how-nikol-pashinyan-rescued-armenia-and-made-it-merry/">https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/saint-nick-of-armenia-how-nikol-pashinyan-rescued-armenia-and-made-it-merry/</a></li>
<li>Armtimes (background on Pashinyan): <a href="https://armtimes.com/hy/article/105002">https://armtimes.com/hy/article/105002</a></li>
<li>News.am on Ararat Mirzoyan informant letter: <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/623848.html">https://news.am/eng/news/623848.html</a></li>
<li>Lurer.am on Rubinyan asset declaration: <a href="https://lurer.com/?p=560245&amp;l=am">https://lurer.com/?p=560245&amp;l=am</a></li>
<li>Groong tweet thread on backchanneling: <a href="https://x.com/groong/status/1920661495043813507">https://x.com/groong/status/1920661495043813507</a></li>
<li>Jam-News analysis of 2020 war defeat: <a href="https://jam-news.net/myths-and-realities-of-armenias-defeat-in-the-second-karabakh-war/">https://jam-news.net/myths-and-realities-of-armenias-defeat-in-the-second-karabakh-war/</a></li>
<li>Yerevan.Today archive note: <a href="https://archive.yerevan.today/eterum/karch-asats/134907">https://archive.yerevan.today/eterum/karch-asats/134907</a></li>
<li>ArmInfo on acquisitions and Su-30s: <a href="https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=46726&amp;lang=3">https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=46726&amp;lang=3</a></li>
<li>Gagrule (roundup on suspicious deaths): <a href="https://gagrule.net/six-officials-who-suspiciously-died-during-pashinyan-reign/">https://gagrule.net/six-officials-who-suspiciously-died-during-pashinyan-reign/</a></li>
<li>Armlur report: <a href="https://armlur.am/1158250/">https://armlur.am/1158250/</a></li>
<li>7or.am interview claim on “earthquake” remark: <a href="https://www.7or.am/am/news/view/197328/">https://www.7or.am/am/news/view/197328/</a></li>
<li>News.am on mobilization gaps: <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/906739.html">https://news.am/arm/news/906739.html</a></li>
<li>Calls for a 2020 war commission, Groong Ep-82: <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/82-calls-for-a-commission-to-analyze-the-defeat-in-the-2020-artsakh-war-ep-82-july-31-2021/">https://podcasts.groong.org/82-calls-for-a-commission-to-analyze-the-defeat-in-the-2020-artsakh-war-ep-82-july-31-2021/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>On responsibility:</strong> A defeated, capitulating leader cannot negotiate on behalf of the nation.</li>
<li><strong>On peace:</strong> Undignified peace invites future conflict, not stability.</li>
<li><strong>On Artsakh:</strong> Seeking return and justice for Artsakh is a right, not “revanchism.”</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/476/thumbnail-476.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/476/thumbnail-476.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17937714-44-day-war-a-tale-of-betrayal-ep-476-sep-28-2025.mp3" length="44227209" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3682</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Archil Sikharulidze - Georgian Municipal Elections 2025 | Ep 475, Sep 30, 2025
[EP475]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/475-archil-sikharulidze-georgia-tbilisi-elections-2025-kakha-kaladze-foreign-agent-law-tripp-south-caucasus/</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17930241-archil-sikharulidze-georgian-municipal-elections-2025-ep-475-sep-30-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>475</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Archil Sikharulidze - Georgian Municipal Elections 2025 | Ep 475, Sep 30, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recordede on: 09/28/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Archil Sikharulidze](/guest/asikharulidze)
#### Topics:
* Municipal Elections & Tbilisi Politics
* Foreign Agent Law, One Year Later
* Georgian Perspectives on TRIPP
Episode 475 | Recorded: September 28, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Archil Sikharulidze](/guest/asikharulidze)
#### Topics:
* Municipal Elections & Tbilisi Politics
* Foreign Agent Law, One Year Later
* Georgian Perspectives on TRIPP
Episode 475 | Recorded: September 28, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Archil Sikharulidze](/guest/asikharulidze)
#### Topics:
* Municipal Elections & Tbilisi Politics
* Foreign Agent Law, One Year Later
* Georgian Perspectives on TRIPP
Episode 475 | Recorded: September 28, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We look at Georgia’s Oct 4 municipal elections, why the races feel lower stakes than parliamentary contests, and why Tbilisi remains the real battleground. Archil outlines Georgian Dream’s strength, the opposition’s fragmentation and boycotts, and how public fatigue shapes turnout. We review Kakha Kaladze’s record in the capital, the debate over sanctions and asset freezes, and what the “foreign agent” law has changed for NGOs. We close with Georgia’s view on TRIPP and a brief Georgia-Armenia comparison.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Municipal elections: stakes, turnout, likely outcomes</li>
<li>Opposition fragmentation and boycotts, limited alliances</li>
<li>Kaladze’s governance record and delivery in Tbilisi</li>
<li>Sanctions talk, asset freezes, and “lists” in politics</li>
<li>One year on: effects of the foreign agent law on NGOs</li>
<li>Georgia’s view on TRIPP and transit leverage</li>
<li>Georgia vs Armenia: political cycles and opposition strategy</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How important are these municipal races, and what would force a runoff in Tbilisi?</li>
<li>Are opposition alliances meaningful, or does fragmentation decide outcomes?</li>
<li>How should voters assess Kaladze’s policies and execution in the capital?</li>
<li>What does a boycott achieve for parties like UNM and Coalition for Change?</li>
<li>What is the real impact of sanction talk and public “lists” inside Georgia?</li>
<li>What has the foreign agent law changed for foreign-funded NGOs in practice?</li>
<li>Would TRIPP weaken Georgia’s transit role, and can it proceed without Iran and Russia?</li>
<li>What lessons from Georgia’s politics apply to Armenia’s opposition playbook?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://info.imedi.ge/en/elections/6722/gorbi-poll-georgian-dream-leads-with-659-support">GORBI poll on Georgian Dream support (65.9%)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/475/thumbnail-475.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/475/thumbnail-475.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17930241-archil-sikharulidze-georgian-municipal-elections-2025-ep-475-sep-30-2025.mp3" length="37155318" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3093</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Martirosyan - Sep 19, Civil Contract, Opposition Inaction, Electric Network | Ep 474, Sep 21, 2025
[EP474]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/474-arthur-martirosyan-september-19-artsakh-ethnic-cleansing-civil-contract-seventh-congress-opposition-samvel-karapetyan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17896344-arthur-martirosyan-sep-19-civil-contract-opposition-inaction-electric-network-ep-474-sep-21-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>474</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Martirosyan - Sep 19, Civil Contract, Opposition Inaction, Electric Network | Ep 474, Sep 21, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - Sep. 21, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Sep. 19: Day of Artsakh’s Ethnic Cleansing
* Civil Contract’s 7th Congress
* Opposition (In)Action
* Electric Network of Armenia
Episode 474 | Recorded: September 22, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Sep. 19: Day of Artsakh’s Ethnic Cleansing
* Civil Contract’s 7th Congress
* Opposition (In)Action
* Electric Network of Armenia
Episode 474 | Recorded: September 22, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Sep. 19: Day of Artsakh’s Ethnic Cleansing
* Civil Contract’s 7th Congress
* Opposition (In)Action
* Electric Network of Armenia
Episode 474 | Recorded: September 22, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>We look back at September 19, 2023, when Azerbaijan attacked Artsakh after a nine-month blockade, killing 223 people and forcing Artsakh to disarm, then the exodus of 120,000 Armenians through the Lachin corridor. We discuss how that outcome was shaped by Yerevan’s stance, and what has followed. We examine Civil Contract’s 7th congress and the “Fourth Republic” plan tied to a new constitution after 2026, the EU framing, and the peace narrative. We also cover the opposition’s split strategy ahead of 2026 and the ENA situation, including nationalization versus foreign operator scenarios and what that signals to investors.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>September 19, 2023, two years on</strong><br>
Human toll, blockade context, disarmament decision, Yerevan’s position, and lasting effects on Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Civil Contract’s 7th Congress and the “Fourth Republic”</strong><br>
New constitution path after 2026, Alma-Ata framing, EU track, and institutionalizing peace. Fourth Republic. Brand or blueprint?</li>
<li><strong>Opposition dynamics before 2026</strong><br>
Impeachment versus election focus, fragmentation, and what might sway undecided voters.</li>
<li><strong>Electric Networks of Armenia (ENA)</strong><br>
Government “surgical measures,” nationalization vs top-tier foreign manager, and investor risk signals.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What choices in 2023 mattered most for Artsakh’s fate, and what lessons follow for Armenia’s security policy today?</li>
<li>Is the “Fourth Republic” a governing program or a campaign brand, and what does the Alma-Ata logic change in practice?</li>
<li>How does an EU-oriented narrative meet on-the-ground security needs, and what would make “peace” durable?</li>
<li>With the opposition split, what strategy has the best path to move public opinion before 2026?</li>
<li>For ENA, which scenario better protects consumers, creditworthiness, and long-term investment: nationalization or a credible foreign operator?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="personal-statements">Personal Statements</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur Martirosyan:</strong> Armenia is already in a pre-election cycle. The “Fourth Republic” pitch looks like a bid to be reelected. It sells peace to the “mothers of Armenia,” downplays the need for a strong army, and leans on promises and paper. In a fast-changing world, that will not protect Armenia from more territorial losses.</li>
<li><strong>Hosts:</strong> Timing matters. Azerbaijan forced Artsakh’s representatives to appear in Yevlakh on September 21, Armenia’s Independence Day. Two years later, on September 21, 2025, Armenia’s NSS chief Andranik Simonyan was in Baku for a three-day “security forum.” The parallel is hard to ignore.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li>Civil Contract 7th congress and platform:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230132">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230132</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230142">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230142</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230149">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230149</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230153">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230153</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230156">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1230156</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Context on NSS chief presence in Baku:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33535086.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33535086.html</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/474/thumbnail-474.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/474/thumbnail-474.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17896344-arthur-martirosyan-sep-19-civil-contract-opposition-inaction-electric-network-ep-474-sep-21-2025.mp3" length="32571244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2711</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Armen Ashotyan - Pashinyan Vote of No Confidence, Opposition Strategies | Ep 473, Sep 19, 2025
[EP473]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/473-armen-ashotyan-pashinyan-vote-of-no-confidence-armenian-opposition-strategies/</link><pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2025 00:29:42 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17871466-armen-ashotyan-pashinyan-vote-of-no-confidence-opposition-strategies-ep-473-sep-19-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>473</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armen Ashotyan - Pashinyan Vote of No Confidence, Opposition Strategies | Ep 473, Sep 19, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: September 17, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
* TRIPP / Trump Route / Zangezur Corridor
* Vote of No Confidence
* “Pashinyan or War”?
Episode 473 | Recorded on September 17, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
* TRIPP / Trump Route / Zangezur Corridor
* Vote of No Confidence
* “Pashinyan or War”?
Episode 473 | Recorded on September 17, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
* TRIPP / Trump Route / Zangezur Corridor
* Vote of No Confidence
* “Pashinyan or War”?
Episode 473 | Recorded on September 17, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p><strong>Armen Ashotyan</strong>, vice president of the Republican Party of Armenia, explains the opposition’s plan for a no-confidence path against Pashinyan, how impeachment procedure pairs with street mobilization, and why opposition unity matters ahead of 2026. We also unpack TRIPP, the announced U.S. funding, and the gap between “up to 99 years” language heard in Washington and what appears in the MoUs published by Yerevan. Ashotyan rejects the “Pashinyan or war” binary and says real peace requires security first.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Why Pativ Unem issued a statement to initiate a no-confidence process, and how hearings could involve non-parliamentary actors.</li>
<li>Impeachment math, the 36-signature and 54-vote thresholds, and why public action must complement procedure.</li>
<li>TRIPP: U.S. funding announcements, “up to 99 years” remarks in Washington, and what is, and is not, in the published MoUs.</li>
<li>Opposition unity: differences with Hayastan, the role of Samvel Karapetyan’s “Mer Dzevov,” and priorities for coordination.</li>
<li>Responding to “Pashinyan or war,” readiness under repression, and turning public sentiment into public action.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What does the no-confidence statement aim to achieve, and how do hearings broaden participation beyond parliament?</li>
<li>Given 32 opposition MPs vs the 36-signature threshold, what is the realistic path to place the motion on the agenda and reach 54 votes?</li>
<li>What are the real commitments behind TRIPP if the MoUs omit “lease” and “99 years,” yet officials cite large funding and long duration?</li>
<li>Are the differences between Pativ Unem and Hayastan tactical or deeper, and how can the opposition present a united front?</li>
<li>If removing Pashinyan risks Azeri pressure, how does the opposition think about deterrence, security, and avoiding war while changing course?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>U.S. Plans First Funding For ‘Trump Route’ Through Armenia</strong>, Azatutyun, Sep 11, 2025: <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528031.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528031.html</a></li>
<li><strong>Armenian Opposition Demands Answers On Corridor Deal With U.S.</strong>, Azatutyun: <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528900.html">https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528900.html</a></li>
<li><strong>Prime Minister’s Office publishes Armenia-United States memorandums of understanding</strong>, Armenpress, Aug 29, 2025: <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228369">https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228369</a></li>
<li><strong>«Պատիվ ունեմ»-ը ներկայացրել է … «անվստահություն հայտնելու մասին» ԱԺ հայտարարության նախագիծը</strong>, 168.am, Sep 16, 2025: <a href="https://168.am/2025/09/16/2279087.html">https://168.am/2025/09/16/2279087.html</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/473/thumbnail-473.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/473/thumbnail-473.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17871466-armen-ashotyan-pashinyan-vote-of-no-confidence-opposition-strategies-ep-473-sep-19-2025.mp3" length="34239708" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2850</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - September 13 War, Kiliç in Armenia, US $145M for TRIPP, Shorter Military Service | Ep 472, Sep 14, 2025
[EP472]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/472-arthur-khachatryan-sep13-war-turkish-armenian-normalization-tripp-us-state-dept-military-service/</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17859096-arthur-khachatryan-september-13-war-kilic-in-armenia-us-145m-for-tripp-shorter-military-service-ep-472-sep-14-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>472</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - September 13 War, Kiliç in Armenia, US $145M for TRIPP, Shorter Military Service | Ep 472, Sep 14, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/14/2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP
#### Topics:
* September 13, 2022 War anniversary
* Serdar Kiliç in Armenia for Normalization
* U.S. State Dept. $145M for TRIPP
Episode 472 | Recorded: September 15, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP
#### Topics:
* September 13, 2022 War anniversary
* Serdar Kiliç in Armenia for Normalization
* U.S. State Dept. $145M for TRIPP
Episode 472 | Recorded: September 15, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP
#### Topics:
* September 13, 2022 War anniversary
* Serdar Kiliç in Armenia for Normalization
* U.S. State Dept. $145M for TRIPP
Episode 472 | Recorded: September 15, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>Three years after the Sep 13, 2022 attack that killed 224 Armenian servicemen and left more than 200 sq km under occupation, the show asks why the state mutes remembrance while talking up “peace.” Hayastan Dashinq/ARF MP <strong>Arthur Khachatryan</strong> joins us to unpack the envoys’ “expedite” language against Ankara’s and Baku’s preconditions and probe TRIPP’s core unknowns, from “unhindered communication” and border checks to who actually gets paid. We then assess the plan to shorten service and cut defense outlays, and close on the slowing economy, rising debt risks, and a policy mix that shifts manpower inward while leaving open questions at the frontier.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The third anniversary of the September 13, 2022 war and its ongoing consequences.</li>
<li>Turkish envoy Serdar Kiliç’s visit to Armenia and “expediting” normalization projects.</li>
<li>U.S. State Department’s $145M announcement for the TRIPP (Trump Route / Zangezur Corridor).</li>
<li>Draft bill to shorten mandatory military service and Pashinyan’s decision to cut defense spending.</li>
<li>Broader government underperformance in project implementation.</li>
<li>Armenia’s army and police size in 2025.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What lessons remain from the September 13 war, and why is it downplayed by the government?</li>
<li>What is the real purpose behind Serdar Kiliç’s “expediting” language—progress or propaganda?</li>
<li>What details of the TRIPP are being withheld from the Armenian public, and why?</li>
<li>Can Armenia afford reduced military service and a shrinking defense budget when all its neighbors are rearming?</li>
<li>Why are so many government projects underperforming, and where is the accountability?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Azerbaijan shoots a mentally ill Armenian, Karen Avanesyan, who was left behind in Stepanakert, alleging &ldquo;anti-terrorist operations.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: The tyranny of Nikol Pashinyan’s rule - “I am the government”.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.turkiyetoday.com/nation/turkish-foreign-ministry-reports-progress-with-armenia-including-border-arrangements-3206823">Türkiye Today – Turkish FM links normalization to Aliyev’s peace treaty</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1229574">Armenpress – Reports on Kiliç-Rubinyan meetings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528031.html">Azatutyun – U.S. State Dept. delegation announces $145M for TRIPP</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33528900.html">Azatutyun – Additional coverage of U.S. delegation visit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eurasiareview.com/14092025-trump-again-confuses-armenia-with-albania/">Eurasia Review – Trump confuses Armenia with Albania</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33527942.html">Azatutyun – Draft bill on shorter military service</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1229309">Armenpress – Coverage on military service reforms</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/LindseySnell/status/1967318159171731688?t=Y0CxNPme-QTDlPq67-igDA&amp;s=19">Security Cam videos of Karen Avanesyan in Stepanakert</a></li>
</ul>
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* New MPG Poll in Armenia
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Episode 471 | Recorded: September 8, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This week’s Week in Review with Hrant Mikaelian covers mounting tensions over Iran’s nuclear program and the risk of renewed war, Russia’s muted stance on the TRIPP corridor despite U.S. and Turkish advances, fresh data from the MPG poll on Armenia’s politics and society, and the state of Armenia’s economy at mid-2025, with particular focus on re-exports, debt, and government underperformance.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>War in Iran</strong>: The E3 snapback sanctions, Iran’s possible NPT withdrawal, and risks of a U.S.-Israeli escalation.</li>
<li><strong>TRIPP Corridor</strong>: U.S. and Israeli leverage, Paul Goble’s views, Russia’s puzzling response, Iran’s split stance.</li>
<li><strong>MPG Poll Findings</strong>:
<ul>
<li>Attitudes toward the Aug 8 White House TRIPP agreement.</li>
<li>Views on opening a road through Syunik.</li>
<li>Whether Washington agreements will bring peace.</li>
<li>Constitutional change as a precondition from Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Political prisoners, including Samvel Karapetyan and Bagrat Srbazan.</li>
<li>Party standings if elections were held today.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Armenian Economy H1/2025</strong>: Decline in re-exports, slowdown in industry, underperformance of key ministries, rising debt, and growth trends in construction and agriculture.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Is the West pushing Iran into a corner, and could this lead to renewed war?</li>
<li>Could TRIPP serve as a launchpad for U.S. and Israeli operations against Iran?</li>
<li>Why is Russia muted while Paul Goble and U.S. analysts are exuberant?</li>
<li>What do the MPG poll results reveal about Armenian public opinion on TRIPP, peace prospects, constitutional change, and political prisoners?</li>
<li>Does Samvel Karapetyan’s rise in polling numbers suggest a viable opposition force in 2026?</li>
<li>How sustainable is Armenia’s economy given re-export decline, underperforming ministries, and rising debt?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/29/russia-china-slam-european-nations-over-iran-snapback-sanctions-move">Al Jazeera – Russia, China slam European nations over Iran snapback sanctions move</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/236175/Iran-parl-could-discuss-emergency-plan-to-exit-NPT-Sun-MP">Mehr News – Iran parliament may discuss exit from NPT</a></li>
<li><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/08/11/israel-iran-war-trump-nuclear-august-december/">Foreign Policy – Israel-Iran war could come before December</a></li>
<li><a href="https://reliefweb.int/report/armenia/how-goble-plan-was-born-and-how-it-remains-political-factor">ReliefWeb – How the Goble Plan was born</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ria.ru/20250906/overchuk-2040140270.html">RIA – Overchuk on TRIPP</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us-secures-strategic-transit-corridor-armenia-azerbaijan-peace-deal-2025-08-07/">Reuters – U.S. secures strategic transit corridor Armenia-Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.luys.am/img/artpic/small/272ea2668ff86421398504-2025-%D5%AB%D4%B2%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%BB%D5%A5%D5%AB1-%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%AF%D5%AB%D5%BD%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%AB%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-2025.pdf">Luys Foundation – H1/2025 Armenian Economy report</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/08/25/2266794.html">168.am – Digest of Luys report</a></li>
<li><a href="https://caucasuswatch.de/en/news/armenias-mixed-economy-growth-in-services-offsets-trade-and-industry-decline.html">Caucasus Watch – Armenia’s mixed economy</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hrant Mikaelian</strong>: On Netanyahu’s recognition of the Armenian Genocide and the controversial renovations at Tsitsernakaberd.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong>: Questioned why Pashinyan refused to request the return of POWs or territory during the August 8 White House meeting.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: No additional statement this week.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="mpg-poll">MPG Poll</h1>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-2-methodology">Slide 2: Methodology</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Research method</strong>: Telephone surveys</li>
<li><strong>Sample Size</strong>: 1101</li>
<li><strong>Error Margin</strong>: ±3%</li>
<li><strong>Implementation period</strong>: August 25, 2025 - August 30, 2025</li>
<li><strong>Research location</strong>: Republic of Armenia</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-02.webp" alt="Slide 2"  title="Slide 2" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-3-how-do-you-view-the-august-8-meeting-in-dc">Slide 3: How Do You View the August 8 Meeting in DC?</h2>
<p>On August 8, 2025, an agreement was signed in Washington between Azerbaijan, Armenia’s government, and the United States regarding the TRIPP corridor. This agreement provides for certain communications and infrastructure to pass through Armenia and Azerbaijan. <em><strong>What is your attitude towards this agreement, according to the following options?</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully positive – 22.8%</li>
<li>Somewhat positive – 19.3%</li>
<li>Somewhat negative – 13.6%</li>
<li>Fully negative – 34.0%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 7.0%</li>
<li>Not familiar with the agreement – 3.3%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Positive: 42.1%</li>
<li>Negative: 47.6%</li>
<li>Other (DK + not familiar): 10.3%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-03.webp" alt="Slide 3"  title="Slide 3" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-4-how-do-you-view-giving-a-road-through-syunik-to-azerbaijan">Slide 4: How Do You View Giving a Road Through Syunik to Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>The declaration reaffirmed that Azerbaijan and Armenia are committed to opening communications. These efforts also include ensuring communications between the main part of Azerbaijan and the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic of Armenia through the Syunik region, with mutual communication opportunities for Armenia. <em><strong>Do you support the opening of such a road through Syunik?</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully support – 17.4%</li>
<li>Somewhat support – 18.1%</li>
<li>Somewhat oppose – 11.3%</li>
<li>Fully oppose – 47.6%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 5.6%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Positive: 35.5%</li>
<li>Negative: 58.9%</li>
<li>Other (DK): 5.6%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-04.webp" alt="Slide 4"  title="Slide 4" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-5-will-the-agreements-in-washington-bring-lasting-peace">Slide 5: Will The Agreements In Washington Bring Lasting Peace</h2>
<p><em><strong>Do you agree that the Washington agreements will contribute to long-lasting peace in the region?</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully agree – 15.8%</li>
<li>Somewhat agree – 22.8%</li>
<li>Somewhat disagree – 13.5%</li>
<li>Fully disagree – 41.6%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 6.3%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Positive (agree + somewhat agree) – 38.6%</li>
<li>Negative (disagree + fully disagree) – 55.1%</li>
<li>Other (DK): 6.3%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-05.webp" alt="Slide 5"  title="Slide 5" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-6-on-changing-the-constitution-as-a-precondition-for-signing-peace">Slide 6: On Changing The Constitution as a Precondition for Signing Peace</h2>
<p>According to published information, Azerbaijan has emphasized constitutional changes in Armenia as a condition for signing a peace agreement. <em><strong>Which statement do you support the most?</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Constitution of Armenia belongs to the people of Armenia, and no country, including Azerbaijan, has the right to interfere – 58.0%</li>
<li>This is Azerbaijan’s internal political move and has no importance for Armenia – 25.1%</li>
<li>I would support changes to Armenia’s Constitution if it helps establish lasting peace and good-neighborly relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan – 12.2%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 4.7%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-06.webp" alt="Slide 6"  title="Slide 6" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-7-political-prisoners-in-armenia">Slide 7: Political Prisoners in Armenia</h2>
<p>Question 1 (left side)</p>
<p><em><strong>Do you think there are political prisoners in Armenia today?</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Yes – 62%</li>
<li>No – 18%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 20%</li>
</ul>
<p>Question 2 (right side)</p>
<p><em><strong>If yes, who do you consider to be a political prisoner? (multiple answers possible)</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Samvel Karapetyan – 71.5%</li>
<li>Bagrat Srbazan (Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan) – 38.5%</li>
<li>Mikayel Ajapahyan – 37.8%</li>
<li>Armen Ashotyan – 9.6%</li>
<li>Varuzhan Avetisyan – 4.1%</li>
<li>Artur Sargsyan – 3.3%</li>
<li>Other – 13.0%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-07.webp" alt="Slide 7"  title="Slide 7" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-8-on-arrest-of-samvel-karapetyan">Slide 8: On Arrest of Samvel Karapetyan</h2>
<p>Samvel Karapetyan, the founder of the Tashir Group, businessman and philanthropist, spoke out in defense of the Armenian Apostolic Church, after which he was arrested shortly after. By court decision, he was detained for 2 months, and on August 15, 2025, the detention was extended for another 2 months. What do you think of this approach by the government?</p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully positive – June: 11.7% | August: 12.6%</li>
<li>Somewhat positive – June: 4.8% | August: 5.9%</li>
<li>Somewhat negative – June: 19.2% | August: 16.4%</li>
<li>Fully negative – June: 57.9% | August: 48.0%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – June: 6.4% | August: 17.0%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Positive (fully + somewhat) – June: 16.5% | August: 18.5%</li>
<li>Negative (somewhat + fully) – June: 77.1% | August: 64.4%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-08.webp" alt="Slide 8"  title="Slide 8" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-9-on-arrest-of-archbishops">Slide 9: On Arrest of Archbishops</h2>
<p>Archbishop Michael Ajapahian and Bagrat Srbazan were arrested and detained at the end of June 2025. Then, in August, the court decided to extend their detention. How do you evaluate this decision?</p>
<p><strong>Results</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully positive – 17.3%</li>
<li>Somewhat positive – 7.7%</li>
<li>Somewhat negative – 12.6%</li>
<li>Fully negative – 44.2%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 18.1%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Positive (fully + somewhat) – 25.0%</li>
<li>Negative (somewhat + fully) – 56.8%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-09.webp" alt="Slide 9"  title="Slide 9" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="slide-10-how-would-you-vote-if-elections-were-held-this-coming-sunday">Slide 10: How Would You Vote if Elections Were Held This Coming Sunday</h2>
<p>If snap parliamentary elections were held this Sunday, which party or bloc would you vote for?</p>
<p>Results:</p>
<ul>
<li>“Civil Contract” Party – 17.3% (+4.2%)</li>
<li>Samvel Karapetyan’s bloc/new party – 13.4% (+10.6%)</li>
<li>Armenia Alliance – 6.4%</li>
<li>“Prosperous Armenia” party – 3.8%</li>
<li>“I have honor” alliance – 3.4%</li>
<li>DOK Party – 2.5%</li>
<li>“Republic” Party – 1.1%</li>
<li>Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF) – 1.1%</li>
<li>“Bright Armenia” Party – 1.0%</li>
<li>Meritocratic Party of Armenia – 0.9%</li>
<li>Armenian National Congress – 0.8%</li>
<li>“A Country to Live” Party – 0.8%</li>
<li>National Democratic Alliance (Bever) – 0.8%</li>
<li>Social Democratic Party – 0.5%</li>
<li>Other – 1.1%</li>
</ul>
<p>Non-voters / undecided:</p>
<ul>
<li>Will not participate – 23.9%</li>
<li>Refuse to answer – 16.3%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer – 5.0%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/471/slides/MPG-slide-10.webp" alt="Slide 10"  title="Slide 10" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="armenian-economy-h12025">Armenian Economy H1/2025</h1>
<p>The Luys Foundation released its <a href="https://www.luys.am/img/artpic/small/272ea2668ff86421398504-2025-%D5%AB%D4%B2%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%BB%D5%A5%D5%AB1-%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%AF%D5%AB%D5%BD%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%AB%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-2025.pdf">report</a> on the Armenian economy in the first half of 2025. As expected there is some slowdown which may have bottomed out in March or April and since then it has been rebounding. The slowdown is attributed to a 12.1% decrease in the industrial sector, which itself is being blamed on the very significant decrease in the re-export sector, which last year had reached (I think) the $12.4B mark, and as Russian deputy PM Alexei Overchuk has been citing, it’s barely over $6.1B in 2025.</p>
<p>Of significant concern is that many areas of the government’s programs have been underperforming, under-executing their planned projects in 2025.</p>
<ul>
<li>Ministry of High-Tech Industry, the underperformance of expenditures is 72.8%
<ul>
<li>This means that they’ve basically done 27% of their projects.</li>
<li>They have a mandate for developing the Armenian military-industrial complex</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Urban Development Committee - 58.7%</li>
<li>Ministry of Environment - 34.3%</li>
<li>Foreign Intelligence Service - 32.4%</li>
<li>Ministry of Territorial Administration and Infrastructure - 22.8%</li>
<li>Ministry of Economy - 22.3%</li>
<li>Ministry of Higher Education and Science - 20.9%.</li>
</ul>
<p>We can see that a significant number of these areas haven’t even achieved half of what they were supposed to do. The Luys report highlights important programs:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Ministry of High-Tech Industry&rsquo;s <strong>&ldquo;Development Program for the Military-Industrial Complex&rdquo;</strong> has been implemented only <strong>4.7%</strong>.</li>
<li>The Ministry of High-Tech Industry&rsquo;s <strong>&ldquo;Digital Transformation&rdquo;</strong> program is implemented only <strong>7.4%</strong>;</li>
<li>The Ministry of Economy’s <strong>&ldquo;Agricultural Modernization Program&rdquo;</strong> is implemented only <strong>12.6%</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<p>One odd aspect of this underperformance is that the government has not been spending at the level that it thought it would, so it has a lot of cash lying around, sitting in banks and earning some interest. So now all that money looks like an over-fulfillment of revenues in the state budget, or maybe a lower budget deficit. Exactly the opposite of what the government predicted would happen.</p>
<p>Despite all of these issues, the economy seems to be on the rebound. If we start including July numbers, we see that</p>
<ul>
<li>The industrial production slow down goes from 12.1 to 9.8%</li>
<li>Electricity generation is up 2.1% (a good indicator of economic activity)</li>
<li>Construction up 20%</li>
<li>Services up 10.6%</li>
<li>CPI has ticked up but still is a reasonable 3.2%, PPI is 2.5%</li>
<li>Foreign trade is still down 41%: Exports down 48%, imports down 36%</li>
</ul>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/471/thumbnail-471.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/471/thumbnail-471.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17820024-hrant-mikaelian-war-on-iran-russia-on-tripp-new-mpg-poll-in-armenia-economy-ep-471-sep-7-2025.mp3" length="62777704" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>5228</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Lenna Hovanessian – White House Meeting Fallout, Artsakh Erasure, Genocide Dismissal, Azerbaijan Playbook in the US | Ep 470, Sep 7, 2025
[EP470]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/470-lenna-hovanessian-august8-white-house-artsakh-anca-cuellar-genocide-diaspora-lobbying/</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2025 18:30:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17805028-lenna-hovanessian-white-house-meeting-fallout-artsakh-erasure-genocide-dismissal-azerbaijan-playbook-in-the-us-ep-470-sep-7-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>470</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Lenna Hovanessian – White House Meeting Fallout, Artsakh Erasure, Genocide Dismissal, Azerbaijan Playbook in the US | Ep 470, Sep 7, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: September 5, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Reflections on August 8 White House Meeting
* Tensions in Diaspora-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijani Lobbying, Caviar Diplomacy, and the Cuellar Bribery Case
Episode 470 | Recorded: September 5, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Reflections on August 8 White House Meeting
* Tensions in Diaspora-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijani Lobbying, Caviar Diplomacy, and the Cuellar Bribery Case
Episode 470 | Recorded: September 5, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Reflections on August 8 White House Meeting
* Tensions in Diaspora-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijani Lobbying, Caviar Diplomacy, and the Cuellar Bribery Case
Episode 470 | Recorded: September 5, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we speak with Lenna Hovanessian, board member of the ANC-Western Region, about the aftermath of the August 8 White House meeting between Pashinyan, Aliyev, and Trump. We discuss the omissions in the agreements, including the rights of Artsakh Armenians, the release of hostages, and protection of cultural heritage. The conversation also covers the Section 907 waiver, dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group, strained diaspora–Armenia relations, Pashinyan’s stance on Genocide recognition, Azerbaijan’s lobbying efforts, and the Cuellar bribery case, where ANCA has asked that Armenian Americans be designated as victims.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Aftermath of the August 8 White House meeting</li>
<li>Exclusion of Artsakh rights, hostages, and cultural heritage from agreements</li>
<li>Section 907 waiver and dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group</li>
<li>Managed capitulation vs peace: corridors, TRIPP, and 99-year lease claims</li>
<li>Armenia–Diaspora tensions and Genocide recognition</li>
<li>Azerbaijani lobbying, caviar diplomacy, and corruption probes</li>
<li>Cuellar bribery case and ANCA’s victim-designation request</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How does the ANC view the outcome of the August 8 White House meeting?</li>
<li>What are the consequences of leaving Artsakh out of the agreements?</li>
<li>Where does the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group leave Artsakh’s cause?</li>
<li>Can the diaspora continue advocating for Artsakh when Armenia undermines these efforts?</li>
<li>How does Pashinyan’s stance on Genocide recognition affect diaspora advocacy?</li>
<li>What obstacles does the Armenian American community face in countering Azerbaijan’s lobbying?</li>
<li>What would it mean if Armenian Americans are recognized as victims in the Cuellar bribery case?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/armenia-has-not-gained-any-dividends-from-international-recognition-of-armenian-genocide-pashinyan-says/">Asbarez: Armenia Has Not Gained Any Dividends From International Recognition of Armenian Genocide – Pashinyan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/1785edc5514548f418e6fb62e9659fb7/Cuellar%20Indictment.pdf">Cuellar Indictment PDF (Texas Tribune)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://anca.org/press-release/anca-calls-on-u-s-attorney-to-designate-armenian-americans-as-victims-of-cuellar-azerbaijan-bribery-scheme/">ANCA: Armenian Americans Should Be Designated Victims in Cuellar–Azerbaijan Bribery Case</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/470/thumbnail-470.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/470/thumbnail-470.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17805028-lenna-hovanessian-white-house-meeting-fallout-artsakh-erasure-genocide-dismissal-azerbaijan-playbook-in-the-us-ep-470-sep-7-2025.mp3" length="41436377" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3450</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Gilbert Doctorow - Multipolar Shifts at the SCO Summit | Ep 469, Sep 6, 2025
[EP469]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/469-gilbert-doctorow-sco-summit-tianjin-multipolarity-armenia-india-china-russia-gas-pipeline/</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2025 03:30:30 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17800051-gilbert-doctorow-multipolar-shifts-at-the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-sco-summit-ep-469-sep-6-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>469</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Gilbert Doctorow - Multipolar Shifts at the SCO Summit | Ep 469, Sep 6, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: September 4, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* SCO Summit in Tianjin, China
* China-India Thaw
* Power of Siberia Gas Pipeline
* What’s in it for Armenia?
Episode 469 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* SCO Summit in Tianjin, China
* China-India Thaw
* Power of Siberia Gas Pipeline
* What’s in it for Armenia?
Episode 469 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* SCO Summit in Tianjin, China
* China-India Thaw
* Power of Siberia Gas Pipeline
* What’s in it for Armenia?
Episode 469 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="show-notes">Show Notes</h1>
<p>In this <em>Conversations on Groong</em> episode, we speak with <strong>Dr. Gilbert Doctorow</strong> about the <strong>Shanghai Cooperation Organization</strong> (SCO) Summit held in Tianjin, China, on August 31–September 1, 2025. We cover the summit’s outcomes, China–India relations, Russia’s energy pivot, Victory Day commemorations, and what the SCO means for Armenia.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h1>
<ul>
<li>The SCO Summit in Tianjin and the shift toward multipolarity</li>
<li>Armenia’s blocked membership bid and the India–Pakistan dynamic</li>
<li>Victory Day commemorations in China and Trump’s TruthSocial reaction</li>
<li>The symbolism of Xi–Modi’s meeting and whether the U.S. has “lost” India</li>
<li>Russia’s Power of Siberia-2 pipeline and its impact on Europe and Asia</li>
<li>What&rsquo;s in it for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How has the SCO evolved from a security forum into an economic and political bloc?</li>
<li>What stood out in Tianjin as genuine turning points in global governance?</li>
<li>How do Armenia and Azerbaijan fit into the SCO when each is blocked by rivals?</li>
<li>What does Victory Day signify in Chinese political culture, and how does Trump’s framing play into U.S. domestic politics?</li>
<li>Has the U.S. truly “lost” India, or is India leveraging all sides?</li>
<li>What balance emerges if India joins Russia and China at the SCO core?</li>
<li>How does the Power of Siberia-2 pipeline reshape Russia’s energy map, Europe’s exclusion, and Asia’s future supply?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="books-by-dr-doctorow">Books by Dr. Doctorow</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/7J6szrP">War Diaries</a></li>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/1lW8vNi">Memoirs of a Russianist:  From the Ground Up and Russia in the Roaring 1990s</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.worldaffairsincontext.com/p/a-new-chapter-in-global-governance">A New Chapter in Global Governance: The 2025 SCO Summit and the Rise of Multipolarity (World Affairs in Context, Lena Petrova)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/chinas-sco-summit-highlights-wests">China’s SCO Summit Highlights West’s Growing Ideological Isolation (Simplicius)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://substack.com/@glenn-diesen">The Dawning of a New World Order (Glenn Diesen)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/52d3b560-7ee7-4aad-aebf-21270d661ced">Financial Times: Russia says China has agreed vast new Siberia gas pipeline</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/a974a056-274a-4606-9de1-be18519fb5de">Financial Times: A China-Russia sweetheart gas deal could upset US energy exporters</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/469/thumbnail-469.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/469/thumbnail-469.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17800051-gilbert-doctorow-multipolar-shifts-at-the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-sco-summit-ep-469-sep-6-2025.mp3" length="37842170" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3150</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Robert Amsterdam - In Our Own Way: The Samvel Karapetyan Case | Ep 468, Sep 4, 2025
[EP468]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/468-robert-amsterdam-samvel-karapetyan-lawfare-armenia-political-prisoner-church-detention-human-rights/</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 20:30:30 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17792818-robert-amsterdam-in-our-own-way-the-samvel-karapetyan-case-ep-468-sep-4-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>468</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Robert Amsterdam - In Our Own Way: The Samvel Karapetyan Case | Ep 468, Sep 4, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Arrest of Samvel Karapetyan
* Pre-trial detention practices
* Lawfare and double standards
* Armenia’s global consequences
Episode 468 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Pre-trial detention practices
* Lawfare and double standards
* Armenia’s global consequences
Episode 468 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Arrest of Samvel Karapetyan
* Pre-trial detention practices
* Lawfare and double standards
* Armenia’s global consequences
Episode 468 | Recorded: September 4, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Conversations on Groong, we speak with international human rights lawyer Robert Amsterdam about the arrest and pre-trial detention of Armenian businessman and Church benefactor Samvel Karapetyan. We explore how Armenia’s courts are being used in a campaign of lawfare targeting political opponents and the Armenian Apostolic Church, following growing tensions between Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan’s government and religious leaders. Amsterdam discusses the legal inconsistencies, the weaponization of pre-trial detention, and how these actions violate international norms. We also examine the broader consequences for Armenia’s legal system, religious freedom, and international reputation.</p>
<hr>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>The arrest of Samvel Karapetyan after speaking in defense of the Armenian Apostolic Church</li>
<li>Use of pre-trial detention in Armenia and how it compares to international legal norms</li>
<li>Lawfare as a political tool in Armenia’s justice system</li>
<li>The erosion of church–state separation and constitutional principles</li>
<li>Reactions from international actors and implications for Armenia’s global standing</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What are the charges brought against Samvel Karapetyan, and how serious are they under Armenian law?</li>
<li>How does the use of pre-trial detention in this case compare with other recent political cases, including clergy?</li>
<li>In what ways does the Karapetyan case reflect the broader trend of lawfare in Armenia?</li>
<li>What does Armenia’s treatment of religious institutions signal about church–state relations?</li>
<li>What diplomatic or legal recourse remains if Armenia continues to detain Karapetyan?</li>
<li>How has the silence of Western governments affected the legal and political dynamics of the case?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://alphanews.am/en/if-politicians-fail-we-will-intervene-in-our-own-way-samvel-karapetyan/">“If politicians fail, we will intervene in our own way” – Samvel Karapetyan (AlphaNews)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2025/06/18/armenian-authorities-target-businessman-samvel-karapetyan-amid-church-dispute/">Armenian authorities target businessman Samvel Karapetyan amid church dispute</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/957571/pashinyan-calls-to-nationalize-electricity-network-after-arrest-of-billionaire-critic/">Pashinyan calls to nationalize electricity network after arrest of billionaire critic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/samvel-karapetyan-files-500-million-compensation-suit-against-armenian-government/">Samvel Karapetyan Files $500 Million Compensation Suit Against Armenian Government</a></li>
<li><a href="https://robertamsterdam.com/">Robert Amsterdam official site</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/468/thumbnail-468.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/468/thumbnail-468.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17792818-robert-amsterdam-in-our-own-way-the-samvel-karapetyan-case-ep-468-sep-4-2025.mp3" length="25337465" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2108</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - SCO Summit, TRIPP Corridor, RU - AZ Rift, UK Ties | Ep 467, Aug 31, 2025
[EP467]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/467-benyamin-poghosyan-sco-summit-china-armenia-tripp-zangezur-corridor-russia-azerbaijan-uk-relations/</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 15:20:32 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17775761-benyamin-poghosyan-sco-summit-tripp-corridor-ru-az-rift-uk-ties-ep-467-aug-31-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>467</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - SCO Summit, TRIPP Corridor, RU - AZ Rift, UK Ties | Ep 467, Aug 31, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* SCO Summit in China
* The UK in Armenia
* TRIPP / Zangezur Corridor
* Russian Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 467 | Recorded: September 1, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* The UK in Armenia
* TRIPP / Zangezur Corridor
* Russian Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 467 | Recorded: September 1, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* SCO Summit in China
* The UK in Armenia
* TRIPP / Zangezur Corridor
* Russian Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 467 | Recorded: September 1, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Week in Review, we look at Armenia’s role at the SCO summit, where Pashinyan struck a new “strategic partnership” with China while also meeting Putin, raising questions about Yerevan’s shifting alignments. We examine the August 8 Washington documents on TRIPP, where words like “corridor” and “99-year lease” swirl despite Armenia’s denials, and ask what Azerbaijan’s demand for constitutional change really means. We cover rising tensions between Moscow and Baku after Aliyev called Russia an occupier and Zatulin warned against seeing Azerbaijan as a partner. And we discuss the UK’s push to raise relations with Armenia to a strategic level, even as London courts Baku and maintains loopholes in its arms embargo.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>SCO Summit and Multipolarity</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>SCO framed as part of a post-unipolar world order.</li>
<li>Pashinyan–Xi meeting launches a China–Armenia Strategic Partnership.</li>
<li>Armenia now follows Georgia (2023) and Azerbaijan (2024/2025) in partnering with Beijing.</li>
<li>Pashinyan–Putin meeting to keep Moscow appeased despite Yerevan’s EU tilt.</li>
<li>Debate over whether Armenia’s diplomacy is “balanced” or just opportunistic photo ops.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>TRIPP / Zangezur Corridor</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>August 8 Washington MOUs published: vague, no “corridor” or “99-year lease,” only 3-year renewals.</li>
<li>Trump and Tom Barrack still use those terms; Aliyev insists his demands are met; Pashinyan claims full sovereignty.</li>
<li>No agreement on how TRIPP will function; Armenia and Azerbaijan openly contradict each other at SCO.</li>
<li>Iran remains wary of potential US presence on its border; Armenian officials unable to answer Tehran’s detailed questions.</li>
<li>Dissolution of OSCE Minsk Group on Sept 1 leaves Artsakh refugees and rights without an international forum.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Tensions between Azerbaijan and Russia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Aliyev tells Al Arabiya that Russia occupied Azerbaijan since 1920 and calls the Ukraine war an invasion.</li>
<li>Unlike Pashinyan, Aliyev did not meet Putin at SCO.</li>
<li>Duma deputy Konstantin Zatulin warns: “We should not delude ourselves about Azerbaijan as a partner.”</li>
<li>Aliyev increasingly sees Azerbaijan as a “middle power,” but Moscow is expected to eventually retaliate.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>UK–Armenia Relations</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Minister Stephen Doughty visits Yerevan after Baku, announces UK–Armenia Strategic Partnership.</li>
<li>Plans include resident defense attachés, cyber and hybrid-threat cooperation, and support for reforms.</li>
<li>UK arms embargo narrowed in July, opening loopholes for potential sales to both Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>London’s goals: weaken Russia’s position and secure alternative east–west transit via Syunik.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is Armenia genuinely shaping strategy at the SCO, or just collecting “strategic partnerships” with little substance?</li>
<li>With TRIPP, are we looking at genuine agreements or vague papers masking deep contradictions?</li>
<li>How serious are Iran’s concerns about US involvement on its border, and can Yerevan even answer them?</li>
<li>With the Minsk Group dissolved, what future is there for Artsakh Armenians’ rights and return?</li>
<li>Is Aliyev overplaying his hand with Moscow by buying into his own “middle power” propaganda?</li>
<li>Does the UK’s strategic partnership with Armenia strengthen Yerevan, or mainly serve London’s transit and anti-Russia goals?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin Poghosyan</strong>: September 2nd marks Artsakh’s 1991 Declaration of Independence; Armenians must keep that memory alive.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed Bedrossian</strong>: Independence of Artsakh should be remembered and celebrated, even under current conditions.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik Manucharyan</strong>: Keeping memory alive means speaking about Artsakh publicly at every opportunity, not just privately.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="kitchen-sink">Kitchen Sink</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Samvel Karapetyan’s Movement</strong>: From jail, he launched “Our Way” (Mer Dzevov) to become a force in 2026 elections, led publicly by nephew Narek Karapetyan.</li>
<li><strong>ENA Arbitration</strong>: Pashinyan fired state lawyer Liparit Drmeyan after he warned regulators to respect a Stockholm arbitration order; PM declared “I am the government.” Karen Andreasyan, previously fired by WhatsApp in 2024, returns as Armenia’s international legal representative.</li>
<li><strong>Netanyahu’s Remark</strong>: On a podcast, he personally recognized the Armenian Genocide, sparking viral claims of official recognition. Israel still hasn’t passed this in Knesset. Turkey condemned him; Pashinyan had earlier told Erdogan Armenia would deprioritize genocide recognition.</li>
<li><strong>Spy Scandal</strong>: Armenian consul to Austria, Ashkhen Aleksanyan, arrested for allegedly spying for Azerbaijan through a romantic relationship; case largely covered up by authorities.</li>
<li><strong>Swiss Influencer Incident</strong>: Sandro Schmid filmed an Armenian border post, garnering 400k views; border guards offered vodka and cursed Putin while MPs are blocked from inspections.</li>
<li><strong>James O’Brien Statement</strong>: Former US official said Aug 8 deal gave Armenia no dividends, only benefits to Azerbaijan; Pashinyan hit back, blaming Biden-era failures in 2021–2023.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228369">Prime Minister’s Office publishes Armenia–United States memorandums of understanding</a> (Armenpress)</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228477">China, Armenia establish strategic partnership during SCO summit</a> (Armenpress)</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228111">UK, Armenia agree to elevate ties to strategic partnership</a> (Armenpress)</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1228492">Armenia, Pakistan establish diplomatic relations</a> (Armenpress)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/mp/stephen-doughty/debate/2025-07-01/commons/written-statements/armenia-and-azerbaijan-arms-embargo">UK Parliament statement on arms embargo, July 1, 2025</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.commonspace.eu/news/members-armenian-azerbaijani-expert-strategic-platform-issue-statement-welcoming-results">Members of the Armenian-Azerbaijani expert strategic platform issue statement welcoming results of Washington meeting</a> (Commonspace.eu)</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/3fw9qKyZKFs">Aliyev interview with Al Arabiya</a> (Youtube)</li>
<li><a href="https://lenta.ru/news/2025/08/27/v-rossii-otreagirovali-na-slova-alieva-ob-svo/">Konstantin Zatulin interview</a> (Lenta.ru)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33516719.html">Jailed Armenian Tycoon Launches New Movement</a> (Azatutyun)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33516557.html">Armenian Official Fired After Warning Against Seizure Of Electric Utility</a> (Azatutyun)</li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/israels-netanyahu-personally-recognizes-armenian-genocide/">Israel’s Netanyahu ‘Personally’ Recognizes Armenian Genocide</a> (Asbarez)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.eng.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/68175">Sources reported the detention of the Armenian consul in Austria on suspicion of espionage</a> (Кавказский Узел)</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1046427">Armenia bans unlicensed use of cameras, including drones at borders</a> (Armenpress)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=4137509186525420">Sandro Schmid&rsquo;s Visit To An Armenian Border Post</a> (Facebook)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtcZ1hEuis">Channel 5 Coverage of the Sandro Schmid Scandal</a> (Youtube)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33514601.html">Former U.S. Official Questions Armenian-Azeri Deal Brokered By Trump</a> (Azatutyun)</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/467/thumbnail-467.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/467/thumbnail-467.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17775761-benyamin-poghosyan-sco-summit-tripp-corridor-ru-az-rift-uk-ties-ep-467-aug-31-2025.mp3" length="54382485" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4529</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Jeffrey Sachs - TRIPP down Zangezur Corridor | Ep 466, Aug 29, 2025
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Asbed Bedrossian
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* What “Peace”?
* Armenian Economy
Episode 466 | Recorded: August 28, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, renowned economist Jeffrey Sachs joins to discuss the U.S.-brokered “TRIPP” (Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity), also known as the Zangezur Corridor. The discussion covers the risks of foreign powers imposing corridors through Armenia, the muted response from Moscow, Tehran’s strong opposition, and what this means for regional security. Sachs stresses that Armenia should not look to distant powers like the United States for security or stability, but instead pursue prudent arrangements and economic cooperation with its immediate neighbors—Russia, Iran, Turkey, Georgia, and Azerbaijan. He also gives candid advice on Armenia’s economy, its dependence on Russia, and the long-term challenges of EU aspirations.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The Oval Office meeting of Pashinyan, Aliyev, and Trump and the TRIPP/Zangezur Corridor agreement.</li>
<li>Risks of Armenia being drawn into great power struggles through U.S. involvement.</li>
<li>The absence of security guarantees or right of return for Armenians from Karabakh.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s growing alignment with Israel and implications for Armenia.</li>
<li>Sachs’s view that Armenia must find solutions with its regional neighbors, not distant powers.</li>
<li>Armenia’s recent economic growth, its dependence on Russia, and long-term risks.</li>
<li>Sachs’s recommendations for Armenia’s economic and diplomatic strategy.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How could the TRIPP/Zangezur Corridor bring peace, or instead trigger war?</li>
<li>Why has Moscow’s reaction been muted, while Tehran remains strongly opposed?</li>
<li>What are the dangers of U.S. military or paramilitary involvement in Syunik?</li>
<li>Is peace possible without security guarantees and a right of return for Karabakh Armenians?</li>
<li>Can Armenia rely on U.S. or European support, or must it seek security through regional diplomacy?</li>
<li>How sustainable is Armenia’s recent economic growth tied to re-exports and remittances?</li>
<li>What macroeconomic and diplomatic policies should Armenia adopt for long-term success?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/hayqmets/status/1958995148567679194">HaykMets tweet on the Oval Office meeting</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP465]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/465-armen-ashotyan-political-prisoner-epp-diaspora-armenian-church-capitulation-artsakh/</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 00:29:42 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17752909-armen-ashotyan-reflections-on-life-as-a-political-prisoner-attacks-on-the-church-and-sovereignty-ep-465-aug-28-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>465</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armen Ashotyan - Reflections on Life as a Political Prisoner, Attacks on the Church and Sovereignty | Ep 465, Aug 28, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Imprisonment and Political Persecution
* International and Diaspora Response
* Pashinyan Regime Attack on the Church
* The Managed Capitulation Process
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#### Topics:
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* Pashinyan Regime Attack on the Church
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Imprisonment and Political Persecution
* International and Diaspora Response
* Pashinyan Regime Attack on the Church
* The Managed Capitulation Process
Episode 465 | Recorded on August 27, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, we speak with <strong>Armen Ashotyan</strong>, vice president of the Republican Party of Armenia, in his first English-language interview since being released from house arrest. Ashotyan reflects on his 25 months of detention as Armenia’s most prominent political prisoner, the broader pattern of repression under Pashinyan, the muted response of Western diplomats, the fragmented stance of the diaspora, and the ongoing erosion of Armenian statehood through the so-called “peace” process with Azerbaijan.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Armen Ashotyan’s imprisonment, conditions of detention, and current restrictions.</li>
<li>The role and response of international organizations and the Armenian diaspora.</li>
<li>The Pashinyan government’s targeting of the Armenian Church and broader political repression.</li>
<li>The “Managed Capitulation Process”: Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing, the 17-point draft document, and constitutional preconditions.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What was Ashotyan’s experience as a political prisoner under the Pashinyan regime?</li>
<li>How has international and diaspora support compared to earlier eras?</li>
<li>Why are Church leaders and activists being imprisoned, and why is society tolerating it?</li>
<li>How does Ashotyan assess Pashinyan’s handling of negotiations with Aliyev and the so-called “peace” process?</li>
<li>What does the 17-point draft document mean for Armenia, and how realistic is constitutional change as a precondition?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/343">Episode 343 with Rafael Ishkanyan on Ashotyan’s case</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.aravot.am/2018/05/07/212112/">Aravot: “Political Prisoners in Armenia” (2018)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.epp.eu/news/epp-political-assembly-meets-in-brussels">EPP Political Assembly Statement on Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP464]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/464-tevan-poghosyan-armenia-state-sovereignty-tripp-trump-corridor-azerbaijan-turkey-russia-iran-pezeshkian-overchuk-yerevan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2025 02:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17740763-tevan-poghosyan-state-sovereignty-day-tripp-trap-iran-russia-reactions-kitchen-sink-ep-464-aug-24-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
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#### Topics:
* __August 23: Armenia’s declaration of State Sovereignty__
* __The TRIPP Trap__
* __Iran - Pezeshkian’s Visit__
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#### Topics:
* __August 23: Armenia’s declaration of State Sovereignty__
* __The TRIPP Trap__
* __Iran - Pezeshkian’s Visit__
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#### Topics:
* __August 23: Armenia’s declaration of State Sovereignty__
* __The TRIPP Trap__
* __Iran - Pezeshkian’s Visit__
* __Russia - Overchuk’s visit__
* __The Kitchen Sink__
Episode 464 | Recorded: August 25, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Week in Review features Tevan Poghosyan, who joins us to discuss the 35th anniversary of Armenia’s Declaration of State Sovereignty, the secrecy and dangers surrounding the Washington-brokered TRIPP (Trump Route) agreements, Iran’s mixed response to the corridor following President Masoud Pezeshkian’s visit to Yerevan, and Russia’s quiet but firm reminders of its enduring leverage in Armenia. We also touch on the Gaza genocide, the importance of unity for Armenians, and developments in Armenian politics including Narek Karapetyan’s videos, Jirayr Libaridian’s analysis, Russia’s response to pro-Azeri voices, Pashinyan’s defense budget stance, and more in the Kitchen Sink.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What does Armenia’s sovereignty mean today, 35 years after its declaration?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government keeping the US-Armenia/TRIPP agreements secret?</li>
<li>What “security guarantees” can Armenia realistically expect from a U.S.-backed corridor?</li>
<li>Is Aliyev sincere about peace, given his rhetoric of revenge?</li>
<li>Did Pezeshkian leave Armenia with more questions than answers about Iran’s red lines?</li>
<li>How is Russia signaling its strategy while avoiding a new front with the West?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> The Gaza genocide continues, with aid weaponized through the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, whose chairman is reportedly one David Papazian.</li>
<li><strong>Tevan:</strong> Remember and celebrate Artsakh Independence Day on September 2, so that Armenians will return one day.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed:</strong> Armenian unity is not optional, it is strategic for survival.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="kitchen-sink">Kitchen Sink</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Narek Karapetyan’s Video Address</strong> exposing inflated school construction costs.</li>
<li><strong>Jirayr Libaridian’s Article</strong> echoing Pashinyan’s positions while ignoring Artsakh.</li>
<li><strong>Russia</strong> cracking down on pro-Azeri pundits by labeling them foreign agents.</li>
<li><strong>Pashinyan</strong> hiring U.S. lawyers to fight the Stockholm Arbitration Court ruling on ENA.</li>
<li><strong>Defense budget</strong> cuts despite Azerbaijani buildup.</li>
<li><strong>Arsen Torosyan</strong> resigns as MP, rumored to take another ministerial post.</li>
<li><strong>Trump’s gaffe</strong> claiming to have ended conflict between “Azerbaijan and Albania.”</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2025/08/09/Nikol-Pashinyan-US-meeting-Trump/">Nikol Pashinyan and Donald Trump sign Armenia-US Memorandums of Understanding</a></li>
<li><a href="https://caspianpost.com/kazakhstan/president-ilham-aliyev-meets-with-kalbajar-residents-presents-apartment-keys">President Ilham Aliyev Meets with Kalbajar Residents, Presents Apartment Keys</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialeurasia.com/2025/08/19/pezeshkians-armenia-iran/">Pezeshkian’s Visit to Armenia and Iran’s Regional Strategy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/1957744683536552229">Masoud Pezeshkian on X (Aug 2025)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33508550.html">Russian Vice-Premier Visits Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thearmenianreport.com/post/russian-official-visits-yerevan-says-some-details-of-u-s-backed-transit-route-remain-unclear">Russian Official Visits Yerevan, Says Some Details of U.S.-Backed Transit Route Remain Unclear</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/rights-group-files-legal-complaint-armenia-businessman-role-gaza-ghf">Rights Group Files Legal Complaint Over Armenian Businessman’s Role in Gaza Humanitarian Fund</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/J8BBZIm2ixA">Narek Karapetyan’s Video Address (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2025/08/18/1505570/">Jirayr Libaridian on the Trump-Aliyev-Pashinyan Meeting (Aravot.am)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/08/22/a-frequent-guest-of-federal-channels-political-scientist-sergey-markov-declared-a-foreign-agent">Sergei Markov Declared a Foreign Agent in Russia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/08/21/2264908.html">Շվեդական ապտակի գինը. Փաշինյանի կառավարությունը 3,25 մլն դոլար կտրամադրի ամերիկյան ընկերությանը Ստոկհոլմի արբիտրաժային դատարանում ՀՀ շահերը պաշտպանելու համար (168.am, Armenian)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33510497.html">Armenian Government Signals Cap On Defense Spending</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/trump-says-he-ended-hostilities-between-aberbaijan-and-albania/">Trump Says He Ended Hostilities Between &ldquo;Aberbaijan and Albania&rdquo;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/gaza-humanitarian-foundation-aid-distribution-system-must-be-dismantled">Gaza Humanitarian Foundation aid distribution system must be dismantled</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.un.org/unispal/document/un-experts-call-for-immediate-dismantling-of-gaza-humanitarian-foundation/">UN - UN experts call for immediate dismantling of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation – Press Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://badil.org/press-releases/15897.html">Militarized Aid Distribution in Gaza — Institutionalizing the Weaponization of Aid and Reestablishing Israeli Military Presence</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/464/thumbnail-464.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/464/thumbnail-464.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17740763-tevan-poghosyan-state-sovereignty-day-tripp-trap-iran-russia-reactions-kitchen-sink-ep-464-aug-24-2025.mp3" length="53993699" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4496</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - Alaska Summit, Trump Corridor, Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Our Way | Ep 463, Aug 17, 2025
[EP463]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/463-sergei-melkonian-trump-route-tripp-iran-russia-azerbaijan-ukraine-war-armenia-our-way-mer-dzevov-opposition-samvel-karapetyan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 02:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17698560-sergei-melkonian-alaska-summit-trump-corridor-russia-azerbaijan-iran-emerging-opposition-our-way-ep-463-aug-17-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>463</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Alaska Summit, Trump Corridor, Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Our Way | Ep 463, Aug 17, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
* Trump Corridor Politics
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
* Russian-Iranian Recalibration
* New Opposition Emerging - Our Way
Episode 463 | Recorded: August 18, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 463 | Recorded: August 18, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* Trump Corridor Politics
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
* Russian-Iranian Recalibration
* New Opposition Emerging - Our Way
Episode 463 | Recorded: August 18, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary">Summary</h1>
<p>This Week in Review covers the Trump-Putin Alaska summit, the rebranded Trump Route (TRIPP) through Syunik, shifting Russian-Azerbaijani relations, Moscow’s recalibration with Iran after the U.S.-Israeli war, and the emergence of a new Armenian opposition movement called Our Way. <strong>Dr. Sergei Melkonian</strong> analyzes the stakes for Armenia, Iran, Russia, and Azerbaijan, plus domestic political shifts in Yerevan.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Trump-Putin Alaska summit and implications for Ukraine and Europe</li>
<li>Trump Corridor politics: Armenia, Iran, Russia, and the TRIPP project</li>
<li>Russian-Azerbaijani tensions over SOCAR strikes and regional power shifts</li>
<li>Russian-Iranian relations after the 12-day U.S.-Israeli war on Iran</li>
<li>Armenia’s emerging opposition movement Our Way led by Samvel Karapetyan</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved at the Alaska summit, and is a negotiated end to the Ukraine war possible?</li>
<li>Were Iran and Russia caught off guard by the Washington accords on the Trump Route?</li>
<li>Who speaks for Iran when we interpret its divided responses?</li>
<li>What are Russia’s interests and red lines in the corridor issue, and does the Trump Route clash with Point 9 of the 2020 ceasefire?</li>
<li>Why are Russian-Azerbaijani relations deteriorating, and is TRIPP a cause or a symptom?</li>
<li>How is Russia reshaping its diplomacy with Iran after the war?</li>
<li>Does the emergence of Our Way mark a real reshaping of Armenia’s political landscape?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33503738.html">RFE/RL: New opposition “Our Way” led by Samvel Karapetyan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-striking-azerbaijans-socar-oil-facilities-ukraine-purpose-kyiv-says-2025-08-18/">Reuters: Russia strikes SOCAR-linked assets in Ukraine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33497154.html">RFE/RL: Govt to sell 20% stake in Viva Armenia (MTS)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/176141">Hetq: Avinyan family villa at Lake Sevan investigation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33496237.html">RFE/RL: Bagrat Srbazan recording released</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.occrp.org/en/news/german-ex-mp-convicted-in-azerbaijan-bribery-scandal">OCCRP: German ex-MP convicted in Azerbaijan bribery case</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Sergei Melkonian</strong>: Azerbaijan is not interested in peace while the Western Azerbaijan agenda, prisoners, and the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh remain unaddressed.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik Manucharyan</strong>: Constitutional preconditions placed on Armenia make a real peace deal unattainable.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="kitchen-sink">Kitchen Sink</h1>
<ul>
<li>Tigran Avinyan’s father’s luxury villa at Lake Sevan (Shorzha)</li>
<li>Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan case and release of the unedited audio</li>
<li>Azerbaijani Laundromat update: German ex-MP’s suspended sentence</li>
<li>Government to sell its 20% stake in Viva Armenia (MTS)</li>
<li>Amulsar and molybdenum combine revived, with shares transferred to the state</li>
<li>Pashinyan found in breach of ethics for indecent language</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/463/thumbnail-463.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/463/thumbnail-463.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17698560-sergei-melkonian-alaska-summit-trump-corridor-russia-azerbaijan-iran-emerging-opposition-our-way-ep-463-aug-17-2025.mp3" length="52707338" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4042</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Christine Arakelian - Pashinyan vs. the Church, India Armenia, NGOs and Foreign Influence | Ep 462, Aug 17, 2025
[EP462]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/462-christine-arakelian-pashinyan-church-india-armenia-ngos-diaspora-trump-corridor/</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17682206-christine-arakelian-pashinyan-vs-the-church-india-armenia-ngos-and-foreign-influence-trump-corridor-ep-462-aug-17-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>462</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Christine Arakelian - Pashinyan vs. the Church, India Armenia, NGOs and Foreign Influence | Ep 462, Aug 17, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: 08/15/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Indian-Armenian Relations
* NGOs and Foreign Influence
* U.S. Geopolitics and the Trump Corridor
Episode 462 | Recorded: August 15, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Indian-Armenian Relations
* NGOs and Foreign Influence
* U.S. Geopolitics and the Trump Corridor
Episode 462 | Recorded: August 15, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan vs. The Armenian Church
* Indian-Armenian Relations
* NGOs and Foreign Influence
* U.S. Geopolitics and the Trump Corridor
Episode 462 | Recorded: August 15, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Christine Arakelian joins us for a deep dive into Armenia’s political crossroads. We discuss Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan’s confrontation with the Armenian Apostolic Church, the arrests of clergy and business leaders, and the chilling effect on society. We explore India-Armenia relations and why opportunities with New Delhi remain untapped, the heavy influence of Western-funded NGOs and the role of new groups like <em>Save Armenia: A Judeo-Christian Alliance</em>, as well as the government’s growing estrangement from the Armenian diaspora. Finally, we place these developments in the context of U.S. politics, Trump’s foreign policy, and the strategic game around the Trump Corridor.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s campaign against the Armenian Apostolic Church and its wider political implications</li>
<li>The significance of India-Armenia relations in a shifting multipolar world</li>
<li>The role of NGOs and foreign influence in Armenian governance</li>
<li>The emergence of <em>Save Armenia: A Judeo-Christian Alliance</em> and its access to the Armenian government</li>
<li>Armenia’s distancing from traditional diaspora organizations and attempts to create a “new diaspora”</li>
<li>How U.S. politics and Trump’s foreign policy intersect with Armenia’s future</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What is driving Pashinyan’s escalating confrontation with the Armenian Church?</li>
<li>How important is India to Armenia, and who is holding back this relationship?</li>
<li>Does Armenia need FARA-style laws to regulate foreign-funded NGOs?</li>
<li>Who is <em>Save Armenia</em>, and what is its relationship to both the Armenian government and Washington?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government distancing itself from the traditional diaspora?</li>
<li>What does U.S. involvement in the Trump Corridor mean for Armenia, Russia, Iran, and Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.oikoumene.org/news/as-armenian-heritage-conference-opens-we-are-not-here-to-be-bystanders">As Armenian heritage conference opens, ‘we are not here to be bystanders’ (World Council of Churches)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2024/09/20/Nikol-Pashinyan-meeting-Diaspora-Commissioners/">Pashinyan meets with Diaspora Commissioners (Government of Armenia)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/HovikYerevan/status/1804152878661050420">Tweet thread by Hovik Manucharyan on diaspora policy</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="dont-forget-to-support-us"><strong>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us:</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/462/thumbnail-462.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/462/thumbnail-462.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17682206-christine-arakelian-pashinyan-vs-the-church-india-armenia-ngos-and-foreign-influence-trump-corridor-ep-462-aug-17-2025.mp3" length="48545752" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4042</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hamid Bahrami - Iran and the corridor through Syunik, Armenia | Ep 461, Aug 16, 2025
[EP461]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/461-hamid-bahrami-iran-armenia-tripp-trump-route-zangezur-corridor-us-israel-azerbaijan-containment-strategy/</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17679326-hamid-bahrami-iran-and-the-corridor-through-syunik-armenia-ep-461-aug-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>461</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hamid Bahrami - Iran and the corridor through Syunik, Armenia | Ep 461, Aug 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 08/16/2025
        
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#### Topics:
* TRIPP Corridor & US Involvement
* US-Israel Strategy & War Risks
* Iran’s Missed Opportunities & Shifts
* Future of Iran–Armenia Relations
Episode 461 | Recorded: August 13, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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Episode 461 | Recorded: August 13, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* TRIPP Corridor & US Involvement
* US-Israel Strategy & War Risks
* Iran’s Missed Opportunities & Shifts
* Future of Iran–Armenia Relations
Episode 461 | Recorded: August 13, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, analyst <strong>Hamid Bahrami</strong> joins us to discuss Iran’s recalibrating role in the South Caucasus following the White House meeting between Trump, Pashinyan, and Aliyev that unveiled the TRIPP corridor, or “Trump Route.” We explore how the project threatens to bypass and encircle Iran, its possible link to a wider US-Israeli strategy, and the risks of a new regional war. The discussion also covers Iran’s past passivity in the Caucasus, the wake-up call of the 44-day war, and Tehran’s options for deeper cooperation with Russia, China, and Armenia as it faces a shifting geopolitical order.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The White House meeting: Trump secures 99-year rights to the TRIPP corridor, Armenia and Azerbaijan initial a peace agreement, and Section 907 is promised to be canceled.</li>
<li>Iran’s mixed reaction compared to Russia’s muted stance, and what this means for Tehran’s regional strategy.</li>
<li>TRIPP as part of a wider US-Israel plan to weaken and encircle Iran, with parallels to ongoing war threats in the Middle East.</li>
<li>Iran’s long-standing passivity in the northern vector, shaped by concerns over ethnic Azeris and reliance on Russia.</li>
<li>The 44-day war and Israel’s growing role in Azerbaijan as a turning point for Iranian security thinking.</li>
<li>Possible future: Iran-Armenia cooperation beyond symbolic gestures, into logistics, intelligence, and military depth.</li>
<li>Armenia’s uncertain political outlook ahead of 2026 elections and its ability to become a reliable security partner.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>How does TRIPP affect Iran’s national security compared to the original “Zangezur Corridor”?</li>
<li>Is the corridor part of a broader NATO/US strategy to encircle Iran and cut it off from Russia and the Black Sea?</li>
<li>What lessons did Tehran draw from decades of passivity and the outcome of the 44-day war?</li>
<li>Can Iran’s Comprehensive Strategic Partnership with Russia evolve into deeper defense integration?</li>
<li>How should Iran approach Armenia now that Russia’s role is diminished?</li>
<li>Could Tehran fill the vacuum in Armenia with real operational presence, rather than symbolic diplomacy?</li>
<li>How do upcoming Armenian elections affect the feasibility of stronger Iran-Armenia ties?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.iras.ir/%D8%B2%D9%86%DA%AF%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%8C-%D9%86%D9%82%D8%B7%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%81%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%82%D9%81%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B2-%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%A8%D9%86/">“Zangezur, the Flashpoint in the Caucasus: The formulation of the New World Order War on Iran&rsquo;s borders”</a> — Hamid Bahrami, IRAS</li>
<li><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/08/11/israel-iran-war-trump-nuclear-august-december/"><em>Will Trump Take Part in the Next War Between Israel and Iran?</em></a> — Foreign Policy</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/461/thumbnail-461.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/461/thumbnail-461.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17679326-hamid-bahrami-iran-and-the-corridor-through-syunik-armenia-ep-461-aug-16-2025.mp3" length="37897560" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3155</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Douglas MacGregor &amp; Christine Arakelian - Armenia in the Crosshairs of US Geopolitical Winds | Ep 460, Aug 12, 2025
[EP460]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/460-douglas-macgregor-christine-arakelian-usa-geopolitics-armenia-south-caucasus-trump-route-pashinyan-aliyev-zangezur-corridor-tripp-iran-russia-gaza-israel/</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17662449-douglas-macgregor-christine-arakelian-armenia-in-the-crosshairs-of-us-geopolitical-winds-ep-460-aug-12-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>460</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Douglas MacGregor &amp; Christine Arakelian - Armenia in the Crosshairs of US Geopolitical Winds | Ep 460, Aug 12, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: 08/12/2025
        
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* [Col. Douglas A. MacGregor](/guest/dmacgregor)
#### Topics:
* US Geopolitics
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* #Gaza, #Iran, #Russia, #Ukraine
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* #Gaza, #Iran, #Russia, #Ukraine
* #DonaldTrump, #Pashinyan, #Aliyev meet in the #WhiteHouse
Episode 460 | Recorded: August 11, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Summary</strong><br>
In this episode, Christine Arakelian and Col. Douglas MacGregor join the hosts to analyze U.S. foreign policy moves from Gaza to the South Caucasus. They discuss Israel’s ongoing campaign in Gaza, the recent U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran, and the likely resumption of hostilities. The conversation examines the Trump–Pashinyan–Aliyev White House summit, the strategic “Trump Corridor” across Armenia, and its impact on Russia, Iran, and India. The guests explore India–Armenia relations, U.S. economic vulnerabilities, and the challenges of sustaining a long-term American role in the region. They also assess the risks and potential outcomes of the upcoming Trump–Putin summit in Alaska, and the Armenian government’s handling of sovereignty, diaspora relations, and political prisoners.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>U.S. involvement in Gaza and Israeli policy objectives.</li>
<li>The Iran conflict, ceasefire dynamics, and likely resumption.</li>
<li>Russia–Iran strategic ties, BRICS, and the INSTC.</li>
<li>The Trump–Pashinyan–Aliyev summit and “Trump Corridor” deal.</li>
<li>Strategic implications for Russia, Iran, and India.</li>
<li>India–Armenia relations in the regional context.</li>
<li>Risks and opportunities from the Trump–Putin Alaska summit.</li>
<li>U.S. debt, industrial decline, and limited capacity for Eurasian commitments.</li>
<li>Armenia’s sovereignty issues, diaspora engagement, and political prisoner cases.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Why is the U.S. involved in Gaza, and what is the endgame?</li>
<li>Is the Iran conflict truly over?</li>
<li>Will Russia stay on the sidelines if Iran is attacked again?</li>
<li>Who benefits from the “Trump Corridor” and why is the U.S. pursuing it?</li>
<li>How could control of an Armenian corridor affect Russia, Iran, and India’s transport networks?</li>
<li>How important is India to Armenia and vice versa?</li>
<li>Can the U.S. sustain its current global commitments given debt and industry constraints?</li>
<li>What are the risks and possible outcomes of the Trump–Putin summit?</li>
<li>How is the Armenian government affecting its own sovereignty and foreign relations?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/460/thumbnail-460.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/460/thumbnail-460.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17662449-douglas-macgregor-christine-arakelian-armenia-in-the-crosshairs-of-us-geopolitical-winds-ep-460-aug-12-2025.mp3" length="46140274" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3841</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Trump, Aliyev, Pashinyan Oval Office Meeting and Reactions | Ep 459, Aug 10, 2025
[EP459]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/459-dziunik-aghajanian-trump-aliyev-pashinyan-white-house-meeting-trump-route-zangezur-corridor-section-907-iran-russia-armenia-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 02:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17661294-dziunik-aghajanian-trump-aliyev-pashinyan-oval-office-meeting-and-reactions-ep-459-aug-10-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>459</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Trump, Aliyev, Pashinyan Oval Office Meeting and Reactions | Ep 459, Aug 10, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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Episode 459 | Recorded: August 11, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h1>
<p>This Week in Review examines the August 8, 2025 White House meeting between Donald Trump, Nikol Pashinyan, and Ilham Aliyev. Ambassador Dziunik Aghajanian joins to discuss the geopolitical fallout from the initialed but yet-unsigned “peace agreement,” the 99-year Trump Corridor lease through Armenia, and the scrapping of Section 907. The conversation covers the agreement’s omissions, Iran’s mixed but wary reaction, Russia’s cautious stance, and the broader strategic implications for Armenia’s sovereignty and security.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>White House meeting between Trump, Pashinyan, and Aliyev: terms, optics, and omissions</li>
<li>U.S. strategic goals behind the Trump Corridor and Section 907 repeal</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s gains vs. Armenia’s losses from the deal</li>
<li>Iran’s mixed reaction and concerns over U.S. corporate involvement</li>
<li>Russia’s muted response and possible OSCE Minsk Group veto dynamics</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Is the agreement a genuine peace treaty or a setup for renewed conflict?</li>
<li>What does Armenia gain, if anything, from this arrangement?</li>
<li>How does the 99-year Trump Corridor lease affect Armenia’s sovereignty?</li>
<li>Could the agreement’s language be used to suppress Armenian political opposition?</li>
<li>What are the U.S. motives, and how does this tie into wider regional conflicts?</li>
<li>How might Iran and Russia respond in the medium and long term?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2025/08/11/Initialed%20Arm-Az%20Peace%20Agreement%20text/13394">Text of the initialed Armenia-Azerbaijan Peace Agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1226978">Trump, Aliyev, Pashinyan Hold Washington Meeting, Initial Peace Deal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33497070.html">U.S. Set To Gain ‘Exclusive Rights’ To Corridor Through Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/08/09/3372566/with-or-without-russia-iran-will-block-us-corridor-in-caucasus-velayati">Iran will block U.S. corridor in Caucasus – Velayati</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1954518124230844703">X/Twitter – DD Geopolitics post</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Imagine if the Armenian Apostolic Church were the Vatinan, where would the global outrage be if the Vatican were targeted the way the Armenian Church is being targeted?</li>
<li><strong>Dziunik</strong>: The Karabakh movement was rooted in self-determination and self-defense after pogroms in Azerbaijan, fully legal under Soviet law.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/459/thumbnail-459.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/459/thumbnail-459.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17661294-dziunik-aghajanian-trump-aliyev-pashinyan-oval-office-meeting-and-reactions-ep-459-aug-10-2025.mp3" length="47294337" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3938</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Stanislav Krapivnik - The Evolving World Order, Russia, and the South Caucasus | Ep 458, Aug 9, 2025
[EP458]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/458-stanislav-krapivnik-ukraine-war-trump-putin-summit-south-caucasus-armenia-russia-zangezur-corridor-aliyev-pashinyan/</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/1215113/episodes/17645872-stanislav-krapivnik-the-evolving-world-order-russia-and-the-south-caucasus-ep-458-aug-9-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>458</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Stanislav Krapivnik - The Evolving World Order, Russia, and the South Caucasus | Ep 458, Aug 9, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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Episode 458 | Recorded: August 9, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, former U.S. Army officer and military-political analyst Stanislav Krapivnik discusses the geopolitical fallout from the Trump-Pashinyan-Aliyev summit in Washington, which saw the announcement of a “peace” framework, the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group, U.S. plans for a 99-year “Trump Corridor” across Armenia, and the dropping of Section 907 to allow arms sales to Azerbaijan. He examines Russia’s heavy focus on the Ukraine war at the expense of the South Caucasus, the loss of Russian leverage over Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the growing role of Turkey. Krapivnik warns of U.S. and British designs to destabilize the region, outlines possible Russian and Iranian responses, and explores the strategic importance of Georgia, the Abkhazia railway, and regional connectivity. The conversation also delves into Armenia’s domestic political challenges, the influence of Western NGOs, and the erosion of core national institutions.</p>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Fallout from the Trump-Pashinyan-Aliyev summit in Washington, including the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group and plans for a 99-year “Trump Corridor” across Armenia.</li>
<li>U.S. dropping Section 907 to allow arms sales to Azerbaijan, while excluding Armenia from such agreements.</li>
<li>Russia’s focus on the Ukraine war and its impact on influence in the South Caucasus.</li>
<li>Turkish ambitions in the region and the erosion of Russian leverage over Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Possible Russian and Iranian responses to increased U.S. and Azerbaijani activity in the Caucasus.</li>
<li>Armenia’s domestic political trajectory under Pashinyan, Western NGO influence, and institutional erosion.</li>
<li>Strategic importance of Georgia, the Abkhazia railway, and potential diplomatic paths to reopening it.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Is the Trump-Pashinyan-Aliyev announcement a genuine peace step or a provocation toward Russia and Iran?</li>
<li>Why has the Ukraine war consumed so much of the Kremlin’s attention at the expense of the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Has Russia lost too much leverage over Azerbaijan, and why has it tolerated hostile actions?</li>
<li>What is needed for Russia to reestablish influence in the Caucasus?</li>
<li>How aligned are Russian and Iranian interests regarding the Zangezur/Trump Corridor?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan’s state stability be more at risk than Armenia’s?</li>
<li>What diplomatic steps would be necessary to reopen the Abkhazia railway for Armenia’s trade?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rownMiz62Jk">Krapivnik on Georgia – Neutrality Studies YouTube</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/458/thumbnail-458.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/458/thumbnail-458.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/1215113/episodes/17645872-stanislav-krapivnik-the-evolving-world-order-russia-and-the-south-caucasus-ep-458-aug-9-2025.mp3" length="54162676" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4510</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Trump Ultimatum to Putin, Corridor Pressures, DC Summit, Kitchen Sink | Ep 457, Aug 3, 2025
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Asbed Bedrossian
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* Turkey, US, and Armenia’s Territory
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 457 | Recorded: August 3, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary">Summary</h2>
<p>In this Week in Review episode, we unpack the latest geopolitical maneuvers affecting Armenia—from the proposed Zangezur Corridor lease floated by the U.S., to the Trump ultimatum for a Ukraine ceasefire. We also examine the fallout from Azerbaijan’s decision to revoke ICRC access to Armenian POWs, and discuss the rising number of political prisoners inside Armenia itself. With regional tensions rising and domestic pressure mounting, is Armenia being squeezed from all sides?</p>
<hr>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Zangezur Corridor and the US Lease Proposal</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Turkish and Azerbaijani lobbying intensifies.</li>
<li>The U.S. reportedly proposes leasing the corridor for 99 years.</li>
<li>Conflicting responses from Armenia’s ruling party figures.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Trump’s August 8 Ceasefire Ultimatum to Russia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Trump reportedly demands Russia end the war in Ukraine or face consequences.</li>
<li>Russian officials, including Dmitry Medvedev, invoke nuclear threats.</li>
<li>The U.S. moves nuclear submarines into position.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Implications of US Pressure on Armenia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s energy dependence on Russia.</li>
<li>Risks from secondary sanctions if Trump returns and escalates pressure on Russia’s trade partners.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>International Response to Corridor Proposals</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Fyodor Lukyanov’s comments: Zangezur is a low priority for Russia.</li>
<li>Potential blowback from Iran, India, and China if a western-backed corridor cuts through Armenia.</li>
<li>Iran’s mixed messages: from military drills to diplomatic overtures in Stepanakert.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Trump’s Tariff and Sanctions Policy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How tariffs differ from secondary sanctions.</li>
<li>Armenia’s limited trade with the U.S. shields it from tariffs—but not sanctions.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Could a rumored Pashinyan-Aliyev summit in Washington change the game on the Zangezur Corridor?</li>
<li>Is the U.S. planning to insert itself deeper into South Caucasus logistics?</li>
<li>If sanctions tighten under Trump, how exposed is Armenia&rsquo;s economy?</li>
<li>Why did Iran’s new president attend a summit in Stepanakert alongside Aliyev?</li>
<li>Has Azerbaijan succeeded in silencing international scrutiny over POWs?</li>
<li>Is the Armenian government pursuing justice or performing damage control in the Sona Mnatsakanyan case?</li>
<li>Has Armenia fully entered the era of political imprisonment?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> Geopolitics are turning the South Caucasus into another soap opera.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Our response to Scott Ritter&rsquo;s denial of the Armenian Genocide: F*** Y** Ritter!!!</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="the-kitchen-sink">The Kitchen Sink</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Political Prisoners in Armenia</strong>
<ul>
<li>Armen Ashotyan &ldquo;released&rdquo; from house arrest.</li>
<li>Continued detention of tens of other political prisoners.</li>
<li>Expanding use of pretrial detention, house arrest, and administrative supervision.</li>
<li>Concerns about the growing authoritarian trend.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>ICRC Revocation and POW Situation</strong>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan reportedly strips ICRC of its ability to visit Armenian POWs and hostages.</li>
<li>The ICRC shuts down its mission in Baku in response.</li>
<li>The 2020 ceasefire’s all-for-all POW clause remains unfulfilled.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Russia restricts Armenian flower imports, threatening a key export sector</strong>
<ul>
<li>Armenia is the second-largest flower exporter to Russia.</li>
<li>Russia cites sanitary issues and alleged third-country re-exports.</li>
<li>Armenian businesses face tens of millions in potential losses amid growing political strain.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>The Death of Sona Mnatsakanyan</strong>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan convoy driver convicted after 3 years.</li>
<li>Audio evidence allegedly withheld or destroyed.</li>
<li>Possible scapegoating of a low-level driver to protect higher officials.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Wildfires in Artsakh destroy Armenian cultural and religious sites</strong>
<ul>
<li>Fires have consumed orchards, monuments, and religious sites on the eastern front.</li>
<li>Artsakh officials suspect arson aimed at erasing Armenian heritage and accelerating Islamization.</li>
<li>Azerbaijani authorities show little effort to contain the damage; pro-government media remain silent.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Armenia sacks consul in Russia for defending the Armenian Apostolic Church</strong>
<ul>
<li>Narek Spartakyan was removed after criticizing attacks on the Church.</li>
<li>Government official Vahakn Aleksanyan claimed consuls must not oppose official policy.</li>
<li>Highlights Pashinyan’s increasingly hostile stance toward Armenia’s national church.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="political-prisoners-in-armenia">Political Prisoners in Armenia</h3>
<p>From Facebook posts from Garen Megerdichian&rsquo;s Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02za3x54RSJJ24FwVBK8Z59pPiZPwNem4qiuohMLo5PLyLUWZYssaEo7vVjkpkEfApl&amp;id=100080812966654">post</a>:</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/457/political-prisoners-August-2025.webp" alt="Political Prisoners in Armenia"  title="Political Prisoners in Armenia" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<hr>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33491102.html">Yerevan Again Signals Support For Third-Party Control Of Corridor For Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1226374">Possible Pashinyan - Aliyev meeting in Washington D.C.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33490203.html">ICRC Shuts Down Azerbaijan Mission</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/447">Fyodor Lukyanov on Russia’s Corridor Priorities</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33441341.html">Ruben Vardanyan&rsquo;s Lawyer: POWs Not in Peace Treaty</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33489575.html">Conviction of Pashinyan’s Convoy Driver</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33489575.html">Critical evidence in Sona Mnatsakanyan&rsquo;s trial destoryed or withheld</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33490228.html">Russia has imposed restrictions on flower imports from Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33487551.html">Armenian Consul in Russia Fired for Defending Church</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/HovikYerevan/status/1951297182054641786">Scott Ritter&rsquo;s denial of the Armenian Genocide</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/457/thumbnail-457.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/457/thumbnail-457.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17618688-benyamin-poghosyan-trump-ultimatum-to-putin-corridor-pressures-dc-summit-ep-457-aug-3-2025.mp3" length="46169299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3844</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Public Trust in Freefall, Church on the Rise, and Corridor Pressures Mount | Ep 456, Jul 27, 2025
[EP456]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/456-benyamin-poghosyan-iri-poll-armenia-trust-crisis-armenian-church-pan-turkism-zangezur-corridor-aliyev-iran-border-syunik/</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 05:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17586049-benyamin-poghosyan-public-trust-in-freefall-church-on-the-rise-and-corridor-pressures-mount-ep-456-jul-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>456</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Public Trust in Freefall, Church on the Rise, and Corridor Pressures Mount | Ep 456, Jul 27, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - July 27, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Corridor Logic
* Crackdown Logic
* IRI Poll
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 456 | Recorded: July 28, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* Crackdown Logic
* IRI Poll
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 456 | Recorded: July 28, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Corridor Logic
* Crackdown Logic
* IRI Poll
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
Episode 456 | Recorded: July 28, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Week in Review episode covers growing public disillusionment in Armenia, as new polling shows historic lows in trust toward political institutions while support for the Armenian Church and Armed Forces holds strong. We examine Pashinyan’s shifting rhetoric on the so-called “Zangezur Corridor,” his ongoing confrontation with the Church, and the geopolitical fallout from recent regional events—including the Iran-Israel conflict and the cooling of Russia-Azerbaijan ties. Dr. <strong>Benyamin Poghosyan</strong> joins to discuss whether Armenia is facing a crisis of legitimacy and a turning point in its strategic posture.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Corridor Logic</strong><br>
How Aliyev’s demands for a “Zangezur Corridor” persist, even as Pashinyan’s rhetoric shifts—from denial to adopting terms like “corridor” and even referencing “Turan.”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Crackdown Logic</strong><br>
Pashinyan’s targeting of Church leaders and critics, including the potential nationalization of Samvel Karapetyan’s companies like ENA, under the pretext of anti-corruption.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>IRI Poll Findings</strong><br>
Widespread political disillusionment:</p>
<ul>
<li>61% trust no political leader</li>
<li>Pashinyan drops to 13%, Kocharyan up to 4%</li>
<li>The Armenian Church and Armed Forces emerge as most trusted institutions</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Russia-Azerbaijan Relations</strong><br>
Following the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, Russia loses leverage in the region; Aliyev pivots westward.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia’s Mixed Messaging</strong><br>
Pashinyan affirms Armenia is not leaving the EAEU while integrating EU/US standards. Trade drops 45%—linked to Ukraine war and reliance on Russia.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Georgia’s Balancing Act</strong><br>
Western pressure on Tbilisi over municipal elections contrasts with Georgia’s relatively stable ties with Russia.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Implications of the Iran–Israel 12-Day War</strong><br>
Armenia’s vulnerability if Iran destabilizes: refugee risk in Syunik, trade disruption, emboldened Azerbaijan.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What is Pashinyan really negotiating behind closed doors with Aliyev?</li>
<li>Has the Iranian “red line” against the corridor weakened after recent regional shifts?</li>
<li>Are crackdowns aimed at silencing dissent ahead of 2026, or about consolidating wealth and power?</li>
<li>Why do younger Armenians support the Church despite official hostility?</li>
<li>With 61% of the public distrusting all politicians, what kind of political change is possible?</li>
<li>Has Aliyev truly abandoned Russia, and is Armenia telling the truth about its Eurasian vs. European alignment?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1225308">Armenpress: Nazeli Baghdasaryan’s Response</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/iran-reasserts-opposition-to-bakus-corridor-scheme/">Asbarez: Iran Opposes Corridor Plan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33438212.html">Azatutyun: Corridor Language Controversy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1221075">Armenpress: ENA Legal Moves</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH0HHu7mh5o">YouTube: Garegin II Remarks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.iri.org/resources/public-opinion-survey-residents-of-armenia-june-2025/">IRI Armenia Poll – June 2025</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.iri.org/resources/public-opinion-survey-residents-of-armenia/">IRI Armenia Poll – Dec 2024</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/new-poll-shows-dissatisfaction-with-pashinyan-his-office-and-his-party-as-large-percentage-opts-not-to-vote/">Asbarez Poll Summary</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1225425">Armenpress on Poll Reaction</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1225437">Follow-up from Armenpress</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/moscow-says-relation-with-baku-at-difficult-juncture/">Moscow-Baku Relations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyan-tells-moscow-yerevan-will-not-leave-eurasian-economic-union/">Pashinyan’s Moscow Trip</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2025/07/22/iran-israel-wars-implications-for-armenia/">Mirror-Spectator: Iran-Israel War &amp; Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Pashinyan&rsquo;s threat to storm the Holy See has the nation on the edge of civil strife.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> Geopolitics are turning the South Caucasus into another Middle East.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/456/thumbnail-456.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/456/thumbnail-456.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17586049-benyamin-poghosyan-public-trust-in-freefall-church-on-the-rise-and-corridor-pressures-mount-ep-456-jul-27-2025.mp3" length="49899550" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4155</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Artsakh Negotiations, Armenian Domestic Politics | Ep 455, Jul 27, 2025
[EP455]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/455-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-negotiations-rights-corridor-politics-environment-nationalization-arf/</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17572169-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-negotiations-armenian-domestic-politics-ep-455-jul-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>455</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Artsakh Negotiations, Armenian Domestic Politics | Ep 455, Jul 27, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 07/27/2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Artsakh Negotiations
* Armenian Domestic Politics
Episode 455 | Recorded: July 25, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 455 | Recorded: July 25, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Artsakh Negotiations
* Armenian Domestic Politics
Episode 455 | Recorded: July 25, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Armenian MP Arthur Khachatryan joins Groong to discuss the publication of his two-volume work on the Artsakh negotiations and the unfolding political crisis in Armenia. He challenges key narratives pushed by the current Armenian government, especially those related to the fate of Artsakh and the peace process. The conversation covers the suppression of Artsakh-related discourse, efforts to sideline the Armenian Church, the state’s aggressive moves to nationalize Samvel Karapetyan’s assets, and the deepening authoritarian streak under Pashinyan. Khachatryan provides historical and legal context to refute claims by the ruling regime and reflects on what may lie ahead politically, including the potential banning of opposition parties like the ARF.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>The publication of Arthur Khachatryan’s two-volume book <em>Artsakh Negotiations</em></li>
<li>Historical misrepresentations by the Pashinyan administration</li>
<li>The 2020 war and why diplomacy failed</li>
<li>The forced displacement of Artsakhtsis and the state’s campaign to silence their advocates</li>
<li>The Church under threat: Pashinyan’s moves against Etchmiadzin</li>
<li>Government crackdown on the ARF and opposition MPs</li>
<li>The evolving language of “corridors” and proposals for foreign-managed transit routes</li>
<li>The nationalization of Electric Networks of Armenia and its broader economic/political implications</li>
<li>Foreign media’s treatment of Armenia’s authoritarian turn</li>
<li>Discussion of a potential foreign agents law in Armenia</li>
<li>Outlook for the 2026 elections</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>What evidence does Khachatryan offer to counter the official narrative that Artsakh was always meant to be within Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government attacking the Church and threatening the Catholicos?</li>
<li>What does the push to nationalize the ENA tell us about Armenia’s political climate?</li>
<li>Has Pashinyan yielded to Aliyev’s demands, and if so, why?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government now using the term “corridor,” after years of resisting it?</li>
<li>How serious is the threat of banning the ARF and persecuting its members?</li>
<li>Can Armenia continue without passing some version of a foreign agents law?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/07/17/Karabakh-peace-proposals/3136537">Karabakh peace proposals</a> – Panorama.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2021/05/19/Nikol-Pashinyan-meeting/">Pashinyan’s press release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.armradio.am/2023/05/25/armenian-pm-responded-to-aliyevs-corridor-narrative/">Armenian PM&rsquo;s 2023 corridor remarks</a> – Public Radio of Armenia</li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/armenia-says-it-rejected-us-lease-over-road-in-syunik-over-sovereignty-concerns/">Rejection of US lease proposal</a> – OC Media</li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/175799">International arbitration and ENA</a> – Hetq</li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33482873.html">Government takeover of ENA</a> – Azatutyun</li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/CivilNetTV/status/1946155513407840689">CivilNet TV MP comments</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armlur.am/1479175/">ARF banning speculation</a> – Armlur</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/455/thumbnail-455.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/455/thumbnail-455.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17572169-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-negotiations-armenian-domestic-politics-ep-455-jul-27-2025.mp3" length="39992357" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3329</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Archil Sikharulidze - Why does Georgia matter for the EU | Ep 454, Jul 24, 2025
[EP454]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/454-archil-sikharulidze-eu-georgia-sanctions-swift-church-iran-china-elections-armenia/</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17558962-archil-sikharulidze-why-does-georgia-matter-for-the-eu-ep-454-jul-24-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>454</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Archil Sikharulidze - Why does Georgia matter for the EU | Ep 454, Jul 24, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 07/24/2025
        
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#### Topics:
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* Attacks on the National Church
* 2025 Local Election Politics
Episode 454 | Recorded: July 22, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 454 | Recorded: July 22, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* Attacks on the National Church
* 2025 Local Election Politics
Episode 454 | Recorded: July 22, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>Conversations on Groong</strong>, we speak with Dr. Archil Sikharulidze about the deepening rift between Georgia and the European Union following the EU Parliament’s July 2025 resolution threatening sanctions, SWIFT disconnection, and political interference. We explore Georgia’s strategic importance in the South Caucasus, its balancing act between East and West, the growing pressure on traditional religious institutions, and the stakes surrounding Georgia’s upcoming municipal elections.**</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>The European Parliament’s July 2025 resolution on Georgia and its coercive tone</li>
<li>The EU’s geopolitical strategy in the South Caucasus and its pressures on Georgia</li>
<li>Trade and diplomacy: Georgia’s growing ties with Iran and China</li>
<li>The regional pattern of attacks on traditional Churches in Georgia and Armenia</li>
<li>Georgia’s upcoming municipal elections and the EU’s attempts to shape internal political outcomes</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the EU’s strategy in the South Caucasus, and how does Georgia fit in it?</li>
<li>Is the EU pressuring Georgia out of concern for democracy—or to secure geopolitical leverage?</li>
<li>Why does the EU oppose Georgia’s economic ties with Iran and China?</li>
<li>What does the Anaklia port project symbolize in the context of EU–Georgia relations?</li>
<li>Why is the Georgian Orthodox Church—and the Armenian Apostolic Church—under attack?</li>
<li>Does joining the EU require giving up national identity and traditional institutions?</li>
<li>What’s at stake in the 2025 municipal elections, and how are they being positioned as a referendum on Georgia’s legitimacy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://archilsikharulidze.substack.com/p/the-european-parliament-calls-to?triedRedirect=true">The European Parliament Calls to Punish Georgia — Archil Sikharulidze on Substack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2025-0110_EN.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawLaDUNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETF2c2Q1aFVqSXVTTVk4QUk4AR6Jee7sjtfIttfai5htoqtZehnUtWzZQEgtOZYF_AOmbtFx2mNVku-GPedFrg_aem_DB2uivPam4ZTCwn8fd90_A">EU Parliament Resolution A-10-2025-0110 on Georgia (PDF)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sikhafoundation.ge/index.php/2025/07/17/transcript-the-church-under-fire-why-post-soviet-governments-pressure-religion/">Transcript: “The Church Under Fire” – Sikha Foundation</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/454/thumbnail-454.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/454/thumbnail-454.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17558962-archil-sikharulidze-why-does-georgia-matter-for-the-eu-ep-454-jul-24-2025.mp3" length="41906005" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3489</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Pashinyan Meets Aliyev as Armenia Cracks Down on Opposition and Church | Ep 453, Jul 13, 2025
[EP453]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/453-hovik-asbed-pashinyan-aliyev-zangezur-corridor-political-arrests-church-crackdown/</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17505824-pashinyan-meets-aliyev-as-armenia-cracks-down-on-opposition-and-church-ep-453-jul-13-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>453</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan Meets Aliyev as Armenia Cracks Down on Opposition and Church | Ep 453, Jul 13, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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Episode 453 | Recorded: July 13, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 453 | Recorded: July 13, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Hovik and Asbed discuss the quiet but consequential meeting between Nikol Pashinyan and Ilham Aliyev in Abu Dhabi, and the parallel crackdown unfolding in Armenia against opposition figures, church leaders, and academics. With no official deal signed, the conversation focuses on the deeper implications of &ldquo;outsourcing&rdquo; corridor control and the broader geopolitical realignments under way.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s meeting with Aliyev in Abu Dhabi</li>
<li>Armenia’s offer to outsource control of the corridor to a U.S.-based company</li>
<li>The surge in arrests targeting opposition figures and church leaders</li>
<li>The case of 18-year-old ARF member Andranik Chamichyan</li>
<li>Firing of Bishop Vardan Navasardyan from YSU</li>
<li>Karen Igityan denied entry into Armenia despite decades of residence</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved in the Pashinyan–Aliyev meeting—and what was conceded?</li>
<li>Is Armenia giving up sovereign control of its territory under the label of “outsourcing”?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government arresting so many opposition figures and clergy?</li>
<li>What does the strikeball case say about the use of state power against youth activists?</li>
<li>How far will the government go to silence dissent ahead of the 2026 elections?</li>
<li>What are the regional consequences of a NATO-linked corridor bordering Iran?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/10/draft-deal-to-end-bitter-conflict-agreed-4-months-ago-but-timeline-for-sealing-complex-deal-remains-uncertain">Al Jazeera: Draft peace deal remains unsigned</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1224526">Armenpress: Armenia open to outsourcing corridor control</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/court-granted-the-motion-to-arrest-opposition-mp-artur-sargsyan/">Arka: Court approves arrest of MP Artur Sargsyan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/eph-astvatsabanoutyan-fakoulteti-episkopos-dekann-azatvel-e-ashkhatankits/33471866.html">Azatutyun: YSU theology dean dismissed</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/beglaryan_davit/status/1943798167364849829">Davit Beglaryan on political prisoners</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/453/thumbnail-453.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/453/thumbnail-453.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17505824-pashinyan-meets-aliyev-as-armenia-cracks-down-on-opposition-and-church-ep-453-jul-13-2025.mp3" length="30665069" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2552</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Martirosyan - Constitution, Western Controlled Syunik, Church Crackdown | Ep 452, Jul 6, 2025
[EP452]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/452-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-syunik-corridor-us-russia-azerbaijan-iran-eu-turkey-constitutional-crisis-church-crackdown-political-prisoners-khachaturov-pows-artsakh-opposition-aliyev-erdogan-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17473118-arthur-martirosyan-constitution-western-controlled-syunik-church-crackdown-ep-452-jul-6-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>452</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Martirosyan - Constitution, Western Controlled Syunik, Church Crackdown | Ep 452, Jul 6, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Western Controlled Syunik?
* What was Kallas Doing in Yerevan?
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
* Coup d’Etat? Or Coup d’Église?
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Episode 452 | Recorded: July 7, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 452 | Recorded: July 7, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* Western Controlled Syunik?
* What was Kallas Doing in Yerevan?
* Russian-Azerbaijani Relations
* Coup d’Etat? Or Coup d’Église?
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 452 | Recorded: July 7, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Constitution Day</strong>: Pashinyan’s rejection of Armenia’s founding document and what it signals</li>
<li><strong>Foreign-Controlled Corridor through Syunik</strong>: From rejecting a Russian corridor to considering a U.S.-managed one</li>
<li><strong>Kaja Kallas in Yerevan</strong>: What message did the Estonian PM and EU envoy bring to Armenia?</li>
<li><strong>Russia-Azerbaijan Breakdown</strong>: Arrests, beatings, media retaliation, and geopolitical friction</li>
<li><strong>Church Crackdown</strong>: Samvel Karapetyan’s arrest and surveillance of clergy raise alarm</li>
<li><strong>Stripping of Parliamentary Immunity</strong>: Ohanyan and Minasyan face charges over years-old land case</li>
<li><strong>Turkey&rsquo;s Latest Insult</strong>: Talaat Pasha’s name proposed for border crossing amid &ldquo;normalization&rdquo;</li>
<li><strong>SCO Application Confusion</strong>: Armenia seeks membership in a bloc that includes many CSTO allies, and is incompatible with EU aspirations</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Has Armenia surrendered the principle of sovereignty by inviting U.S. oversight in Syunik?</li>
<li>Why is Erdogan praising Armenia’s “constructive” stance on the Zangezur corridor?</li>
<li>What’s behind Russia’s sudden crackdown on Azerbaijani-linked criminal figures—and Baku’s aggressive response?</li>
<li>Are the criminal charges against Ohanyan and Minasyan politically timed and selectively applied?</li>
<li>What does Turkey’s proposal to name a border crossing after Talaat Pasha say about Armenian-Turkish normalization?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s application to the SCO a realistic foreign policy shift or just more confusion?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Reflected on the <strong>nationalization of Electric Networks of Armenia (ENA)</strong> and the strategic significance of Armenia’s <strong>electrical infrastructure</strong>, including the potential for <strong>AI data centers</strong> and cross-border power export.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Criticized <strong>AUA’s handling of student activism</strong>, raising concerns about the university’s values and its role in <strong>suppressing free speech</strong> during recent protests.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-kitchen-sink">The Kitchen Sink</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Opposition Immunity Stripped</strong>: Ohanyan and Minasyan were charged over a land deal from years ago, even though the same property was previously attributed to Ohanyan’s wife. Meanwhile, <strong>Khachatur Sukiasyan</strong>, a regime-aligned oligarch with a long record of suspicious deals, remains untouched.</li>
<li><strong>Talaat Pasha Crossing</strong>: Turkey’s proposal to rename a border crossing after the chief architect of the Armenian Genocide is a humiliating blow amid Pashinyan’s push for normalization.</li>
<li><strong>Artsakh Parliament in Exile</strong>: With Davit Ishkhanyan detained in Baku, <strong>Ashot Danielyan</strong> was named Speaker and acting president by the Artsakh National Assembly in exile.</li>
<li><strong>SCO Membership Bid</strong>: Armenia’s announcement that it is applying to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, despite having burned bridges with CSTO members, adds another layer of strategic confusion.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://news.am/eng/news/823611.html">Erdogan’s “Zangezur corridor” comments</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dw.com/en/russia-is-moscow-losing-azerbaijan-as-an-ally/a-73147334">Russia-Azerbaijan fallout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/lawmakers-want-to-rename-turkish-border-crossing-to-after-talaat-pasha/">Turkish MPs propose Talaat Pasha crossing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33463229.html">SCO confusion and application</a></li>
<li><a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/06/armenia-turkiye-rapprochement?lang=en">Carnegie Endowment on Armenia-Turkey ties</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1223776">Kaja Kallas visits Yerevan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1223719">Russian-Azeri mafia arrest report</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1224254">Seyran Ohanyan and Artsvik Minasyan charges</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hraparak.am/post/51da9c2a2c0ce381955b34054045e883">Hraparak report on immunity vote</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2025/06/13/1493591/">Ohanyan case timeline in Aravot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/139330">Khachatur Sukiasyan controversies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/167698">Bodyguard livestock farm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.am/arm/news/695109.html">Illegal construction by Sukiasyan’s son</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/452/thumbnail-452.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/452/thumbnail-452.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17473118-arthur-martirosyan-constitution-western-controlled-syunik-church-crackdown-ep-452-jul-6-2025.mp3" length="57499844" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4789</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian – Fallout from Israel’s War on Iran, Azerbaijan’s Confrontation with Russia, Pashinyan’s Persecution of the Armenian Church, while he courts the EU | Ep 451
[EP451]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/451-dziunik-aghajanian-iran-azerbaijan-russia-armenia-relations-persecution-of-the-church-eu-macron-kallas-in-yerevan-oic-istanbul-declaration/</link><pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 20:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17432527-dziunik-aghajanian-fallout-from-israel-s-war-on-iran-azerbaijan-s-confrontation-with-russia-pashinyan-persecutes-the-armenian-church-while-courting-the-eu-ep-451.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>451</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian – Fallout from Israel’s War on Iran, Azerbaijan’s Confrontation with Russia, Pashinyan’s Persecution of the Armenian Church, while he courts the EU | Ep 451</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Iran-Azerbaijan Relations
* Russian-Azerbaijani Tensions
* Russian-Armenian Relations
* Persecution of The Church Continues
* Kaja Kallas in Armenia
* OIC Declaration
Episode 451 | Recorded: June 30, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Iran-Azerbaijan Relations
* Russian-Azerbaijani Tensions
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#### Topics:
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* Russian-Azerbaijani Tensions
* Russian-Armenian Relations
* Persecution of The Church Continues
* Kaja Kallas in Armenia
* OIC Declaration
Episode 451 | Recorded: June 30, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="-summary">🎙️ Summary</h2>
<p>In this Week in Review, former ambassador Dziunik Aghajanian joins the show to unpack a week of escalating tensions across Armenia’s borders and within. The discussion covers the aftermath of Israel’s war on Iran, claims that Azerbaijan facilitated Israeli strikes, and a sudden fallout between Baku and Moscow after raids and retaliatory actions. Domestically, the Pashinyan government’s crackdown on the Armenian Church deepens, even as Emmanuel Macron offers public support. The episode also examines Kaja Kallas&rsquo; visit to Armenia and new EU-Armenia defense consultations, as well as Iran’s support for the OIC’s pro-Azerbaijani Istanbul Declaration.</p>
<h2 id="-main-topics-addressed">🧭 Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Israel’s war on Iran and its aftermath</li>
<li>Iran-Azerbaijan tensions over use of airspace by Israeli drones</li>
<li>Russia-Azerbaijan fallout after police raids and media suppression</li>
<li>Frictions in Russian-Armenian trade and the EAEU</li>
<li>The Armenian government’s deepening crackdown on the Church</li>
<li>Macron’s endorsement of Pashinyan amid political unrest</li>
<li>EU-Armenia defense talks following Kaja Kallas’ visit</li>
<li>Iran’s support for the OIC’s Istanbul Declaration</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="-key-questions-discussed">❓ Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What does Iran’s response to Israeli attacks reveal about its red lines?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijan’s collaboration with Israeli operations sustainable?</li>
<li>Are Russia and Azerbaijan undergoing a real rupture or just a public spat?</li>
<li>Is Armenia risking its economic position by distancing from Russia?</li>
<li>What does the government’s crackdown on the Church mean for Armenia’s democracy?</li>
<li>How should we interpret Macron’s endorsement of Pashinyan during this crisis?</li>
<li>What real security value does the EU offer Armenia?</li>
<li>Why did Iran back a strongly pro-Azerbaijani declaration at the OIC?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="-thoughts-from-the-participants">💬 Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Dziunik:</strong> The government’s actions against Holy Etchmiadzin are an attack on Armenian identity. Many are grieving, but also beginning to resist.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> New MPG poll shows nearly 80% disapprove of the crackdown on the Church. This has hurt Pashinyan’s standing and may spark broader political pushback.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="-referenced-articles--sources">🔗 Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-azerbaijan-israel-war-territory-airspace/33456456.html">Iran-Azerbaijan-Israel triangle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/baku-reacts-to-irans-call-for-probe-of-israeli-attacks-from-azerbaijan-airspace/">Baku rejects Iran’s drone claims</a></li>
<li><a href="https://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/06/30/unacceptable-violence">Russia-Azerbaijan tensions escalate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/06/30/police-raid-baku-office-of-russian-state-media-agency-sputnik-azerbaijan">Sputnik Azerbaijan raided</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/30/azerbaijan-cancels-russian-cultural-events-amid-fallout-over-police-raids-in-yekaterinburg-a89610">Cultural fallout in Baku</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-condemns-azerbaijans-move-cancel-russian-cultural-events-following-2025-06-30/">Kremlin response</a></li>
<li><a href="https://horizonweekly.ca/en/catholicos-warns-of-artsakh-heritage-destruction-at-bern-conference/">Crackdown on the Armenian Church</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1939292523224076495">Macron’s tweet</a></li>
<li><a href="https://new.oic-oci.org/Lists/ConferenceDocuments/Attachments/2728/Istanbul%20Declaration.pdf">OIC Istanbul Declaration</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/451/thumbnail-451.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/451/thumbnail-451.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17432527-dziunik-aghajanian-fallout-from-israel-s-war-on-iran-azerbaijan-s-confrontation-with-russia-pashinyan-persecutes-the-armenian-church-while-courting-the-eu-ep-451.mp3" length="53953410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4493</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - Israel &amp; Iran, Opposition Crackdown, Pashinyan in Istanbul | Ep 449, Jun 22, 2025
[EP449]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/449-sergei-melkonian-israel-iran-crackdown-on-armenian-opposition-pashinyan-in-istanbul/</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17406778-sergei-melkonian-israel-iran-crackdown-on-opposition-pashinyan-in-istanbul-ep-449-june-22-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>449</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Israel &amp; Iran, Opposition Crackdown, Pashinyan in Istanbul | Ep 449, Jun 22, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* Crackdown on the Opposition
* Pashinyan in Istanbul
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 449 | Recorded: June 25, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* Crackdown on the Opposition
* Pashinyan in Istanbul
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 449 | Recorded: June 25, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="-main-topics-addressed">🎙️ Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Israel and the U.S. launch a 12-day war on Iran, triggering global and regional fallout.</li>
<li>Armenia’s geopolitical silence and exposure to refugee flows and instability.</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s cultural war against the Church, with mounting verbal attacks.</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s June 13 visit to Istanbul and quiet meeting with Erdogan and Aliyev.</li>
<li>OIC’s “Istanbul Declaration” includes sharp anti-Armenian language.</li>
<li>Turkish-Azeri military drills in Nakhichevan amid regional war.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="-key-questions-discussed">❓ Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is the Iran ceasefire stable, or just a pause before more covert action?</li>
<li>How exposed is Armenia to fallout from the Iran-Israel conflict?</li>
<li>Why does public support for Netanyahu persist despite mounting costs?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan using internal cultural fights to distract from real crises?</li>
<li>What does Karapetyan’s arrest reveal about the state of dissent?</li>
<li>Why has Armenia gone through six NSS chiefs in six years?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan replacing Russian-trained officials with NATO-aligned ones?</li>
<li>How credible are the terrorism claims against Bagrat Srbazan?</li>
<li>What influence did the Istanbul meeting have on the OIC declaration?</li>
<li>Why is Anna Hakobyan’s program budget considered classified?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="personal-thoughts-from-the-participants">Personal Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li>Hovik: Shout out to Brian Berletic for excellent geopolitical coverage</li>
<li>Sergei: Israel-Iran war was an important test for Armenia. Armenia must be ready, because it will come around.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-kitchen-sink">The Kitchen Sink</h2>
<ul>
<li>Crackdown on opposition figures tied to the ARF and the Srbazan Movement.</li>
<li>Arrest of billionaire Samvel Karapetyan after defending the Armenian Church</li>
<li>Gunfire Continues At Armenian Border Towns</li>
<li>Dismissal of NSS chief Armen Abazyan amid rising pressure on security institutions.</li>
<li>Lawsuit filed by Armine Fanyan accusing Pashinyan of inciting hatred.</li>
<li>Anna Hakobyan’s “Education is Trendy” campaign shielded as a state secret.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/449/thumbnail-449.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/449/thumbnail-449.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17406778-sergei-melkonian-israel-iran-crackdown-on-opposition-pashinyan-in-istanbul-ep-449-june-22-2025.mp3" length="52302813" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4355</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arman Grigoryan - Iran and US vs Iran, Strategic Dangers to Armenia | Ep 448, Jun 23, 2025
[EP448]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/448-arman-grigoryan-israel-iran-war-regime-change-nuclear-weapons-armenia-russia-china-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17380215-arman-grigoryan-israel-and-us-vs-iran-strategic-dangers-to-armenia-ep-448-jun-23-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>448</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arman Grigoryan - Iran and US vs Iran, Strategic Dangers to Armenia | Ep 448, Jun 23, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - June 23, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Israel’s war on Iran and U.S. involvement
* Risks of Iranian regime change or partition
* Strategic dangers to Armenia
Episode 448 | Recorded: June 21, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Israel’s war on Iran and U.S. involvement
* Risks of Iranian regime change or partition
* Strategic dangers to Armenia
Episode 448 | Recorded: June 21, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* Israel’s war on Iran and U.S. involvement
* Risks of Iranian regime change or partition
* Strategic dangers to Armenia
Episode 448 | Recorded: June 21, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we speak with Dr. Arman Grigoryan about the rapidly escalating war between Israel, the United States, and Iran. We explore the strategic goals behind the conflict, the risks of nuclear escalation, and whether regime change or the partitioning of Iran is a realistic objective—or a dangerous delusion. We also examine how Russia, China, and Europe are responding, and why Iran’s survival or collapse could reshape Armenia’s geopolitical position. Finally, we discuss how Armenia might navigate the fallout of a regional war it cannot afford to ignore.</p>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Israel&rsquo;s and the U.S.&rsquo;s strategic aims in the war on Iran</li>
<li>Risks of regional escalation and the possibility of nuclear weapons use</li>
<li>Strategic consequences of Iranian collapse or survival for Armenia</li>
<li>Russia and China’s limited involvement and balancing calculations</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Is regime change the real goal behind the Iran war?</li>
<li>Can Iran count on meaningful support from Russia or China?</li>
<li>Is Europe now irrelevant in Middle East diplomacy?</li>
<li>What are the risks to Armenia if Iran is defeated—or partitioned?</li>
<li>How might Iran’s outcomes strengthen or weaken Armenia’s regional position?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-858111">Jerusalem Post: “Forge a Middle East coalition for Iran’s partition”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/IRIMFA_EN/status/1933974812785016842?t=ycM7zTeZDM3VP15AxsZjqg&amp;s=19">Iran-China diplomatic statement (X)</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h4 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h4>
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<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/448/thumbnail-448.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/448/thumbnail-448.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17380215-arman-grigoryan-israel-and-us-vs-iran-strategic-dangers-to-armenia-ep-448-jun-23-2025.mp3" length="52958802" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4410</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Fyodor Lukyanov - Israel Attacks Iran: Perspectives From Russia | Ep 447, Jun 16, 2025
[EP447]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/447-fyodor-lukyanov-israel-iran-attack-operation-rising-lion-us-trump-nuclear-talks-russia-partnership-armenia-syunik-zangezur-corridor-azerbaijan-ukraine-operation-spiderweb-counter-terror-campaign/</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 22:28:56 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17349544-fyodor-lukyanov-israel-attacks-iran-perspectives-from-russia-ep-447-jun-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>447</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Fyodor Lukyanov - Israel Attacks Iran: Perspectives From Russia | Ep 447, Jun 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - June 16, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Israel hits Iran, talks collapse
* Armenia at risk if Iran weakens
* Russia hardens stance on Ukraine
Episode 447 | Recorded: June 15, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Israel hits Iran, talks collapse
* Armenia at risk if Iran weakens
* Russia hardens stance on Ukraine
Episode 447 | Recorded: June 15, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Israel hits Iran, talks collapse
* Armenia at risk if Iran weakens
* Russia hardens stance on Ukraine
Episode 447 | Recorded: June 15, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Conversations on Groong, we speak with Fyodor Lukyanov, editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs, to analyze the geopolitical fallout from Israel’s surprise military campaign against Iran, known as Operation Rising Lion. We explore how the attacks may sabotage U.S.-Iran nuclear negotiations, shift Russia’s strategic calculus, and destabilize the South Caucasus—particularly Armenia’s Syunik province. We also examine the implications for Russia-Iran relations, the Zangezur corridor, and Azerbaijan’s military posture. Finally, we discuss Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb, recent Russian rhetoric labeling Ukraine a terrorist state, and whether Moscow is preparing to escalate its war effort.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Israel’s Operation Rising Lion and its strategic goals</li>
<li>U.S.-Iran nuclear talks derailed by the strikes</li>
<li>Russia-Iran strategic partnership under pressure</li>
<li>Armenia’s vulnerability amid shifting regional dynamics</li>
<li>Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb and Russia’s possible escalation</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How does Moscow view Israel’s attacks on Iran, and what is Russia’s strategic stake?</li>
<li>Was Israel’s goal truly to neutralize Iran’s nuclear program, or is regime change in play?</li>
<li>What does the derailment of nuclear negotiations signal about U.S. intentions?</li>
<li>Is Russia’s partnership with Iran strong enough to deter further aggression?</li>
<li>Could Armenia lose its southern province if Iran is weakened?</li>
<li>What are Russia’s real interests in the Zangezur Corridor?</li>
<li>Has Ukraine’s deep-strike campaign shifted Russia’s rules of engagement?</li>
<li>Will the “Special Military Operation” become a declared counter-terror operation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf">Brookings – <em>Which Path to Persia?</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/russia-united-states-poll-propaganda-2082665">Newsweek – Russians No Longer View U.S. as Enemy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://t.me/geopolitics_live/51449">Telegram – Alexander Dugin’s Channel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/09/europe/russia-putin-respond-ukraine-drone-attack-intl">CNN – Russia vows payback for Ukraine drone attack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tass.com/politics/1969479">TASS – Lavrov’s Comments on UK’s Role</a></li>
<li><a href="https://substack.com/@larrycjohnson/p-165661962">Substack – Larry C. Johnson on Ukraine’s Operations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tass.com/politics/1970881">TASS – Russia Labels Ukraine Actions as Terrorism</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/447/thumbnail-447.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/447/thumbnail-447.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17349544-fyodor-lukyanov-israel-attacks-iran-perspectives-from-russia-ep-447-jun-16-2025.mp3" length="32692151" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2721</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Spotlight on Silence: Surveillance State: Armenia’s Biometric Crackdown | Ep 446, Jun 15, 2025
[EP446]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/446-rafael-ishkhanyan-armenia-surveillance-law-facial-recognition-biometric-data-privacy-abuse-public-safety-political-targeting-acpr-groong-podcast/</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 16:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17341442-spotlight-on-silence-surveillance-state-armenia-s-biometric-crackdown-ep-446-jun-15-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>446</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Spotlight on Silence: Surveillance State: Armenia’s Biometric Crackdown | Ep 446, Jun 15, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Spotlight on Silence - June 15, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Armenia legalizes round-the-clock surveillance.
* Law enables political targeting, critics warn.
* No oversight, no privacy laws.
* Silence from Armenia’s new geopolitical allies.
Episode 446 | Recorded: June 12, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Armenia legalizes round-the-clock surveillance.
* Law enables political targeting, critics warn.
* No oversight, no privacy laws.
* Silence from Armenia’s new geopolitical allies.
Episode 446 | Recorded: June 12, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Rafael Ishkhanyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/rishkhanyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia legalizes round-the-clock surveillance.
* Law enables political targeting, critics warn.
* No oversight, no privacy laws.
* Silence from Armenia’s new geopolitical allies.
Episode 446 | Recorded: June 12, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Groong: Spotlight on Silence, we speak with Rafael Ishkhanyan of the Armenian Center for Political Rights about Armenia’s sweeping new surveillance law. Passed quietly in March 2025, the law grants police 24/7 access to camera networks across public institutions and allows for real-time facial recognition, raising deep concerns about privacy, political targeting, and unchecked state power. We explore what the law says, what it leaves out, and why international silence—despite clear risks to civil liberties—has been so striking.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Overview of Armenia’s new surveillance law passed in March 2025</li>
<li>Scope of facial recognition and biometric surveillance across public institutions</li>
<li>Legal and technical gaps in Armenia’s regulatory framework</li>
<li>Political abuse potential, including selective targeting of opposition figures</li>
<li>Chilling effects on public behavior and civic engagement</li>
<li>Lack of international response despite parallels to Serbia, France, and Canada</li>
<li>Armenia’s poor data security record and implications for the future</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What exactly does the surveillance law authorize, and how broad is its reach?</li>
<li>Why was the facial recognition component left vague in the legal text?</li>
<li>Does the shift from private to public sector access meaningfully reduce surveillance?</li>
<li>What international legal standards does the law contradict?</li>
<li>How could this system be used for political repression or voter profiling?</li>
<li>What does Armenia’s cybersecurity track record tell us about risks of abuse?</li>
<li>Why is there little international outcry compared to similar laws in other countries?</li>
<li>What steps, if any, can still be taken to halt or review the law?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tbz3Am0PYMhAFxhbjLT737vBeX5P_ztT/view">Big Brother in Armenia (ACPR report)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/344">Episode 344: Draft Surveillance Law</a></li>
<li><a href="https://csometer.info/updates/armenia-new-legal-amendments-expand-biometric-surveillance-police">CSO Meter on Armenia’s surveillance law</a></li>
<li><a href="https://csometer.info/country_insights?country%5B0%5D=1&amp;country%5B1%5D=7&amp;year%5B0%5D=2024&amp;area%5B0%5D=13">CSO Meter: &ldquo;Right To Privacy&rdquo; Rankings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://csometer.info/country_insights?country%5B0%5D=1&amp;country%5B1%5D=7&amp;year%5B0%5D=2024&amp;area%5B0%5D=15">CSO Meter: &ldquo;Freedom of Peaceful Assembly&rdquo; Rankings</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/446/thumbnail-446.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/446/thumbnail-446.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17341442-spotlight-on-silence-surveillance-state-armenia-s-biometric-crackdown-ep-446-jun-15-2025.mp3" length="39596377" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3297</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Rananjay Anand – Will India Turn to Armenia Amid Turkey-Azerbaijan Fallout? | Ep 445, June 12, 2025
[EP445]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/445-rananjay-anand-india-indians-sour-on-turkey-azerbaijan-turn-to-armenia-robust-partnership/</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:14:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17327486-rananjay-anand-will-india-turn-to-armenia-amid-turkey-azerbaijan-fallout-ep-445-june-12-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>445</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Rananjay Anand – Will India Turn to Armenia Amid Turkey-Azerbaijan Fallout? | Ep 445, June 12, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - June 12, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Operation Sindoor
* Indians Boycott Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Armenia as a Robus Partner
Episode 445 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Operation Sindoor
* Indians Boycott Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Armenia as a Robus Partner
Episode 445 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Operation Sindoor
* Indians Boycott Turkey & Azerbaijan
* Armenia as a Robus Partner
Episode 445 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Conversations on Groong, we speak with Rananjay Anand, president of the Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO, about the growing potential for a strategic partnership between India and Armenia. As Turkey and Azerbaijan double down on their support for Pakistan—most recently during Operation Sindoor—Indian public sentiment is shifting. Weddings, conferences, and corporate events once destined for Istanbul and Baku are being redirected, and Armenia is emerging as a quiet alternative. We explore what’s driving this trend, the challenges posed by limited connectivity, and whether this moment could mark a turning point in India-Armenia relations.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Turkey and Azerbaijan&rsquo;s support for Pakistan during Operation Sindoor</li>
<li>Growing Indian backlash and boycotts targeting Turkish and Azerbaijani companies</li>
<li>Armenia’s potential as a strategic partner and tourist destination for Indians</li>
<li>Challenges and prospects for direct flights between India and Armenia</li>
<li>Opportunities for business, film, and hospitality cooperation between India and Armenia</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>How did Operation Sindoor shape Indian public sentiment and foreign policy?</li>
<li>Why are Indian tourists and businesses turning away from Turkey and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What practical steps can Armenia take to benefit from India’s shifting preferences?</li>
<li>What’s blocking the launch of direct flights between Yerevan and Indian cities?</li>
<li>How can Indian-Armenian cooperation grow in tourism, film, and trade sectors?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visit/turkey-off-the-table-indian-weddings-corporate-events-move-out-over-ankaras-pro-pakistan-stance/articleshow/101385935.cms">Turkey off the table: Indian weddings, corporate events move out over Ankara&rsquo;s pro-Pakistan stance – Economic Times</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP444]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/444-hrant-mikaelian-armenian-church-under-attack-pashinyan-rpa-impeachment-david-hambardzumyan-pm-candidate-armenian-economy-decline-demographic-crisis-birthrate-emigration-artsakh-refugees-georgia-relations-ukraine-war-poland-election-ep444/</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17317113-hrant-mikaelian-poland-s-shift-rpa-s-nominee-economy-demographics-ep-444-june-8-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>444</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Poland’s Shift, RPA’s Nominee, Economy, Demographics | Ep 444, June 8, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - June 8, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine's War, Poland’s Pivot?
* Status Check on the Economy
* RPA Names PM Candidate
* Armenia’s Demographic Threats
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 444 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine's War, Poland’s Pivot?
* Status Check on the Economy
* RPA Names PM Candidate
* Armenia’s Demographic Threats
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 444 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine's War, Poland’s Pivot?
* Status Check on the Economy
* RPA Names PM Candidate
* Armenia’s Demographic Threats
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 444 | Recorded: June 9, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Week in Review episode, Groong hosts unpack a tense week in Armenian politics and society. Prime Minister Pashinyan intensifies his attacks on the Armenian Church, while the ruling Civil Contract party faces mounting criticism over corruption and nepotism. The opposition RPA nominates a symbolic candidate for prime minister amid an unlikely impeachment effort. Meanwhile, Armenia&rsquo;s economy shows cracks beneath reported growth, Georgia tightens trade routes, and demographic warnings grow starker as birthrates plummet and emigration continues. The episode also touches on global shifts, including the Ukraine war and Poland&rsquo;s presidential pivot, framing Armenia’s challenges in a broader geopolitical context.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Pashinyan’s Campaign Against the Armenian Church</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Escalation of attacks on the Church and the Catholicos</li>
<li>Strategic goal of capturing the Church institutionally</li>
<li>Levon Ter-Petrosyan publicly backs the Church; Pashinyan retaliates</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Developments in the Ukraine War and Poland’s Presidential Election</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Russia preparing retaliation following Ukraine’s “Spiderweb” operation</li>
<li>Trump and Nawrocki echo skepticism of Zelensky</li>
<li>Potential long-term weakening of EU anti-Russia unity</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia’s Strained Relations with Georgia and Russia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Georgian obstruction of Armenian exports</li>
<li>Matviyenko’s visit fails to yield approval for Russian consulate in Kapan</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Status Check on Armenia’s Economy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Reported 5.2% growth contrasts with deeper economic issues</li>
<li>Decline in re-exports, industrial output down 18.5%</li>
<li>Budget shortfalls, defense under-spending, and questionable foreign borrowing</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>RPA Names PM Candidate for Impeachment</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>David Hambardzumyan, Masis Mayor, proposed as symbolic but obscure candidate</li>
<li>Unlikelihood of impeachment process succeeding</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Demographic Challenges Facing Armenia</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Birth rates remain low; aging population and emigration worsening the problem</li>
<li>Collapse among Artsakh refugees</li>
<li>Government attacks on the Church may further harm social structures</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Why is Pashinyan intensifying his attacks on the Armenian Church?</li>
<li>How will Nawrocki&rsquo;s win affect Poland’s position on EU enlargement and Ukraine?</li>
<li>What are the root causes of Armenia’s weakening economy despite official growth claims?</li>
<li>What’s behind Georgia’s trade disruptions with Armenia?</li>
<li>Is the RPA&rsquo;s impeachment plan serious, or just political theater?</li>
<li>How deep is Armenia’s demographic threat, and what role does policy—and culture—play?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://anca.org/news/ahmad-shahidov-threatens-armenia-with-invasion/">ANCA: Ahmad Shahidov threatens invasion of Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/174755">Hetq.am: Ptghni land corruption scandal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/174756">Hetq.am: Continued investigation of Ptghni scandal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://iravaban.net/en/438531.html">Iravaban.net: Tigran Avinyan’s declaration of assets</a></li>
<li><a href="https://yerevan.today/milionner%D5%9D-kriptoashxarhic-milionner%D5%9D-skesrayr-hayrikic%E2%80%A4-inch-en-haytararagrel-avinyann-u-kineh-factor-am/">Yerevan.today: More on Avinyan and crypto assets</a></li>
<li><a href="https://factor.am/899289.html">Factor.am: Gohar Abajyan heads Enterprise Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2025-06-07/domingo-hindoyan-la-opera-new-music-director">LA Opera names Domingo Hindoyan as music director</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.totalenergies.com/media/news/news/totalenergies-signs-absheron-development-agreement">TotalEnergies signs gas deal with Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nspa.nato.int/news/2025/nspa-agreement-turkey">NATO&rsquo;s NSPA signs agreement with Turkish defense firms</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/news-and-insights/press-releases/bp-expands-renewables-in-azerbaijan.html">BP announces solar project in Artsakh</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP443]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/443-abhinav-pandya-from-sindoor-to-syunik-india-new-geopolitical-frontline-armenia-pakistan-turkey-azerbaijan-israel/</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2025 00:11:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17291663-abhinav-pandya-from-sindoor-to-syunik-india-s-new-geopolitical-frontline-ep-443-june-6-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>443</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Abhinav Pandya - From Sindoor to Syunik: India’s New Geopolitical Frontline | Ep 443, June 5, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 06/05/2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Axis
* Operation Sindoor
* Armenia As a Strategic Partner
* West Asia and Eurasia Context
* Future Outlook
Episode 443 | Recorded: June 3, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Axis
* Operation Sindoor
* Armenia As a Strategic Partner
* West Asia and Eurasia Context
* Future Outlook
Episode 443 | Recorded: June 3, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Axis
* Operation Sindoor
* Armenia As a Strategic Partner
* West Asia and Eurasia Context
* Future Outlook
Episode 443 | Recorded: June 3, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Conversations on Groong, we speak with Abhinav Pandya about the emerging Turkey–Pakistan–Azerbaijan axis and its implications for India’s security and regional posture. We explore the symbolism behind the opening of an empty airport in Berdzor (Lachin), the broader strategic coordination among these three nations, and how India responded with Operation Sindoor following a major terror attack in Pahalgam. The conversation also looks at Armenia’s growing role as a strategic partner for India, the complexities of managing ties with Iran, and the challenges facing multilateral projects like IMEC. Pandya outlines the ideological and hybrid threats India faces and what it must do to stay ahead in a shifting geopolitical landscape.</p>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>The Turkey–Pakistan–Azerbaijan strategic axis and its growing cooperation</li>
<li>Symbolism and significance of the Berdzor (Lachin) airport opening in occupied Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh)</li>
<li>India’s Operation Sindoor: strategic intent and regional reactions</li>
<li>Armenia’s strategic pivot from Russia to India</li>
<li>The role of Iran, Chabahar Port, and India&rsquo;s Eurasian connectivity ambitions</li>
<li>IMEC’s viability and the challenges of multilateral infrastructure projects</li>
<li>Turkey’s ideological influence operations in India and South Asia</li>
<li>Future flashpoints and the need for India’s strategic countermeasures</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What does the emerging Turkey–Pakistan–Azerbaijan axis aim to achieve?</li>
<li>How did Operation Sindoor reshape India’s regional military posture?</li>
<li>Is Armenia becoming more than just a defense client for India?</li>
<li>How does India manage its complex relationship with Iran, especially around Chabahar?</li>
<li>Is the IMEC project dead on arrival, and what are India’s alternatives?</li>
<li>How can India confront ideological and cyber threats in this evolving geopolitical landscape?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/indias-russia-option-212015">India’s Russia Option</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/indias-china-challenge-211295">India’s China Challenge</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/us-doesnt-understand-indian-diplomacy-209942">The U.S. Doesn’t Understand Indian Diplomacy</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/are-india-and-armenia-moving-toward-strategic-partnership-208173">Are India and Armenia Moving Toward a Strategic Partnership?</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/evolution-terror-financing-kashmir-207150">The Evolution of Terror Financing in Kashmir</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://manaramagazine.org/2021/12/turkey-and-bangladesh-from-the-rift-of-jamaat-e-islami-to-defence-cooperation/">Turkey and Bangladesh: From the Rift of Jamaat-e-Islami to Defence Cooperation</a> – <em>Manara Magazine</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/turkey-comes-out-as-pakistans-ally">Turkey Comes Out as Pakistan’s Ally</a> – <em>Middle East Forum</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-t%C3%BCrkiye-spreads-radical-islamic-ideology-indian-raj-%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%AD-%E0%A4%B7-%E0%A4%95-%E0%A4%B0-%E0%A4%9C--hdsif/">How Turkey Spreads Radical Islamic Ideology in the Indian Subcontinent</a></li>
<li><a href="https://usanasfoundation.com/india-must-prepare-for-a-final-showdown-with-pakistan-another-war-coming-soon">India Must Prepare for a Final Showdown with Pakistan</a> – <em>Usanas Foundation</em></li>
<li><a href="https://usanasfoundation.com/armenian-indian-cooperation-about-obstacles-and-new-strategic-perspectives">Armenian–Indian Cooperation: Obstacles and Strategic Perspectives</a> – <em>Usanas Foundation</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.etvbharat.com/en/!international/erdogans-south-asia-playbook-why-india-is-angry-with-turkey-enn25051404514">Erdogan’s South Asia Playbook: Why India Is Angry with Turkey</a> – <em>ETV Bharat</em></li>
<li><a href="https://apri.institute/the-geopolitical-aspects-of-the-india-armenia-partnership/">The Geopolitical Aspects of the India–Armenia Partnership</a> – <em>APRI Armenia</em></li>
<li><a href="https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visit/turkey-off-the-table-indian-weddings-corporate-events-move-out-over-ankaras-pro-pakistan-stance/articleshow/121323514.cms">Turkey Off the Table: Indian Weddings, Events Leave Turkey</a> – <em>The Economic Times</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/understanding-indias-armenia-outreach-amid-global-power-play-in-south-caucasus-13579412.html">Understanding India’s Armenia Outreach</a> – <em>Firstpost</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.etvbharat.com/en/!international/india-afghanistan-diplomatic-ties-post-operation-sindoor-pakistan-taliban-enn25051604574">India–Afghanistan Diplomatic Ties Post Operation Sindoor</a> – <em>ETV Bharat</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.orfonline.org/research/an-india-armenia-intelligence-partnership-for-the-2020s">An India–Armenia Intelligence Partnership for the 2020s</a> – <em>Observer Research Foundation (ORF)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/can-imec-emerge-alternative-bri-206906">Can IMEC Emerge as an Alternative to BRI?</a> – <em>The National Interest</em></li>
<li><a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/middle-east/diwan/2024/10/disquiet-on-the-west-asian-front?lang=en">Disquiet on the West Asian Front</a> – <em>Carnegie Endowment</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vifindia.org/sites/default/files/turkey-s-islamist-agenda-in-india.pdf">Turkey’s Islamist Agenda in India</a> – <em>VIF India</em></li>
<li><a href="https://theprint.in/opinion/armenia-buying-indian-weapons/2642025/">India-Armenia: New Delhi’s Entry Points to the Caucasus</a> – <em>ThePrint</em></li>
<li><a href="https://theprint.in/world/erdogan-calls-for-firming-up-pakistan-turkey-azerbaijan-axis-baku-offers-2-bn-for-islamabad/2640907/">Erdogan Calls for Firming Up Pakistan–Turkey–Azerbaijan Axis</a> – <em>ThePrint</em></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="books-by-dr-abhinav-pandya">Books by Dr. Abhinav Pandya</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/6IqUFRW">Radicalization in India (2019)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/9suTnNM">Terror Financing in Kashmir (2023)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/j4VJwZ0">Inside the Terrifying World of Jaish-e-Mohammed (2024)</a></li>
</ul>
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[EP442]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/442-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-us-iran-crises-hakan-fidan-in-moscow-aliyev-erdogan-sharif-in-lachin-azerbaijan-pashinyan-attack-armenian-church-impeachment-vs-election/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 00:18:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17277878-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-and-us-iran-fidan-in-moscow-lachin-azerbaijan-and-pashinyan-attack-armenian-church-impeachment-vs-elections-ep-442-june-1-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>442</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Ukraine and US-Iran, Fidan in Moscow, Lachin, Azerbaijan and Pashinyan attack Armenian Church, Impeachment vs. Elections | Ep 442, June 1, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - June 1, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Status of Ukraine and US-Iran Crises
* Hakan Fidan in Moscow
* Erdogan, Aliyev, Sharif in Lachin
* Azerbaijan and Pashinyan Attack the Armenian Church
* Impeachment vs. Elections
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 442 | Recorded: June 2, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Status of Ukraine and US-Iran Crises
* Hakan Fidan in Moscow
* Erdogan, Aliyev, Sharif in Lachin
* Azerbaijan and Pashinyan Attack the Armenian Church
* Impeachment vs. Elections
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 442 | Recorded: June 2, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Status of Ukraine and US-Iran Crises
* Hakan Fidan in Moscow
* Erdogan, Aliyev, Sharif in Lachin
* Azerbaijan and Pashinyan Attack the Armenian Church
* Impeachment vs. Elections
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 442 | Recorded: June 2, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Groong’s Week in Review, recorded on June 2, 2025, guest Benyamin Poghosyan joins hosts Hovik Manucharyan and Asbed Bedrossian to unpack a tense and volatile week in both regional and domestic politics. The conversation opens with rising tensions in the Ukraine war, as drone strikes reach deep into Russia, Germany lifts missile restrictions, and Trump labels Putin “crazy,” all while Iran nuclear talks remain frozen under hardline U.S. demands. The focus then shifts to the South Caucasus, where Turkish FM Hakan Fidan met Lavrov in Moscow to push the “3+3” platform and floated Istanbul as a summit venue for global powers. Meanwhile, Erdogan, Aliyev, and Pakistan’s PM Sharif staged a PR spectacle in Lachin to inaugurate a third airport in occupied Artsakh, signaling strategic realignments. Back in Armenia, the Pashinyans launched harsh verbal attacks on the Armenian Church just as Baku’s Grand Mufti claimed Etchmiadzin as Azerbaijani land, prompting questions of tacit coordination. The episode also revisits the impeachment debate versus opposition planning for the 2026 elections, probing whether security and corruption can drive real political traction. Finally, the hosts spotlight the rise of regime-aligned oligarch Narek Nalbandyan, whose sweetheart deals, state-enabled asset grabs, and government-backed expansion raise serious concerns about the erosion of anti-corruption values in Armenia today.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>War Drums in Ukraine and Iran</strong><br>
Ukraine continued drone attacks deep into Russian territory, provoking harsh rhetoric from Moscow. Germany is suspected of supplying long-range Taurus missiles, and Chancellor Merz lifted range restrictions on Western weaponry. Trump called Putin “crazy” and signaled tougher measures might follow. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s attacks on Russian strategic bombers just ahead of peace talks in Istanbul raised the stakes. In parallel, US-Iran nuclear talks remain stalled, with the Trump team demanding zero enrichment and dismantling of regional alliances.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Hakan Fidan Visits Moscow</strong><br>
Turkish FM Hakan Fidan met Sergey Lavrov in Moscow to discuss the “3+3” regional platform involving Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia, Turkey, and Iran. Talks included unblocking transport routes, South Caucasus reconstruction, and Russia’s offer to help finalize the Armenia-Azerbaijan peace treaty. Fidan also suggested Istanbul as a summit site for Zelenskyy, Putin, Trump, and Erdogan. Notably, he endorsed Aliyev’s approach in the region as “wise,” signaling alignment with Baku’s posture.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Aliyev’s Airport Party in Lachin</strong><br>
Aliyev opened yet another airport—this time in Lachin—with Turkish President Erdogan and Pakistan’s PM Sharif attending. The third such project in occupied Artsakh territory, this move was more symbolic than functional. It signaled trilateral strategic alignment and sent a pointed message to Armenia and possibly India, given Pakistan’s involvement. Corridor logistics and energy cooperation were also on the table.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Attacks on the Armenian Church</strong><br>
Azerbaijan’s Grand Mufti declared Armenian religious sites like Etchmiadzin to be on “historical Azerbaijani lands.” Instead of pushing back, Armenian leaders joined in with their own attacks. Anna Hakobyan accused the clergy of pedophilia on Facebook, while Nikol Pashinyan called churches “cesspools” and insulted a bishop in deeply vulgar terms. These outbursts followed Catholicos Garegin II’s attendance at a Bern summit on Artsakh heritage, raising questions about coordination with Baku.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Impeachment vs. Elections in Armenia</strong><br>
Edgar Ghazaryan renewed his call for Pashinyan’s impeachment, though it would require Civil Contract defections and lacks popular mobilization. Meanwhile, the ruling party seems to be outlining a 2026 campaign platform focused on illusory peace and temporary social welfare measures. Opposition parties remain fragmented but are testing platforms centered on national security, anti-corruption, and preserving Armenia’s sovereignty amid fears of Azerbaijani demographic influence.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Kitchen Sink: Russian Consulate, US Diplomacy, and Nalbandyan</strong><br>
Armenia delays opening Russia’s consulate in Syunik despite Lavrov’s visit—yet France’s honorary consulate moved ahead smoothly. The US, via Deputy Secretary Josh Huck, warns of the “real risk” of Azerbaijani invasion while encouraging a peace treaty. Meanwhile, businessman Narek Nalbandyan’s rapid rise—from underpaying for state-seized properties to dumping cheap eggs—raises red flags on corruption under Pashinyan’s government.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Are Western arms and intelligence directly escalating the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>What are the strategic goals of Turkey and Russia in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Why are Turkey and Pakistan aligning so visibly with Azerbaijan in Lachin?</li>
<li>Is the Armenian government tacitly enabling Baku’s narrative against the Church?</li>
<li>Can impeachment gain traction without public unrest or elite defections?</li>
<li>What electoral strategies can the fragmented opposition realistically pursue?</li>
<li>Is Armenia deliberately cooling relations with Russia over Syunik?</li>
<li>What does the Nalbandyan case reveal about new oligarchs under Civil Contract?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-164944531">Substack article by Simplicius The Thinker on Ukraine&rsquo;s latest attack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://aze.media/erdogan-aliyev-inaugurate-new-airport-in-liberated-lachin/">Erdogan and Aliyev inaugurate new airport in Lachin (aze.media)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://aze.media/a-future-alliance-takes-shape-in-lachin-as-azerbaijan-turkiye-and-pakistan-strengthen-strategic-partnership/">Azerbaijan, Turkey, Pakistan alliance in Lachin (aze.media)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/azerbaijans-islamic-sheikh-calls-etchmiadzin-historical-azerbaijani-land/">Mufti claims Etchmiadzin is “Azerbaijani” land (California Courier)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/wifeofarmenianPM/posts/pfbid0GN57zVZmxpzVB9wUTG1PKELHoL2zLRkxAH7xhHkjDaxjdgDs6WtUoSwjnY3Mr4uPl">Anna Hakobyan Facebook Post Attacking Catholicos and Clergy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hetq.am/hy/article/166403">Hetq on Anna Hakobyan comments</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kron4.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/816359399/swiss-peace-initiative-for-nagorno-karabakh-launched-in-bern/">Swiss Peace Initiative on Artsakh (Kron4)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33429832.html">Azatutyun report on Church controversy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W9OAtkK8h4Q">YouTube clip of Pashinyan attacking the Church</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/174541">Hetq on Yerevan city lawsuits</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.am/arm/news/885137.html">News.am on Russian Consulate Delay</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33428906.html">US official Huck visits MFA (Azatutyun)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33428884.html">More on Huck&rsquo;s visit and US warnings (Azatutyun)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/06/01/2223446.html">Wealth of Gurgen Arsenyan (Armenia&rsquo;s Ambassador to Russia)</a></li>
<li><strong>On Narek Nalbandyan’s rise and corruption:</strong>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/05/30/2221830.html">168.am – Nalbandyan’s empire and deals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/02/06/2163738.html">168.am – Egg dumping and market disruption</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-Zdi2YczY">YouTube: Nalbandyan’s business coverage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/162738">Hetq report on business links</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQRHN6y8CB8">YouTube: Nalbandyan-related coverage</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/442/thumbnail-442.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/442/thumbnail-442.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17277878-benyamin-poghosyan-ukraine-and-us-iran-fidan-in-moscow-lachin-azerbaijan-and-pashinyan-attack-armenian-church-impeachment-vs-elections-ep-442-june-1-2025.mp3" length="52363631" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4361</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan – Republic Day, EU Drama, and Constitutional Chaos | Ep 441, May 25, 2025
[EP441]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/441-arthur-khachatryan-armenia-eu-accession-russia-constitution-impeachment-artsakh-election/</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 21:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17251078-arthur-khachatryan-republic-day-eu-drama-and-constitutional-chaos-ep-441-may-25-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>441</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan – Republic Day, EU Drama, and Constitutional Chaos | Ep 441, May 25, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - May 25, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/akhachatryan)
#### Topics:
* May 28, Republic Day
* Armenia’s EU-Russia policy confusion
* Constitutional changes for “peace”
* Impeachment vs. election dilemma
* Azeri invasion threat and silence
Episode 441 | Recorded: May 28, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/akhachatryan)
#### Topics:
* May 28, Republic Day
* Armenia’s EU-Russia policy confusion
* Constitutional changes for “peace”
* Impeachment vs. election dilemma
* Azeri invasion threat and silence
Episode 441 | Recorded: May 28, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/akhachatryan)
#### Topics:
* May 28, Republic Day
* Armenia’s EU-Russia policy confusion
* Constitutional changes for “peace”
* Impeachment vs. election dilemma
* Azeri invasion threat and silence
Episode 441 | Recorded: May 28, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Groong Week in Review, we speak with Arthur Khachatryan of the ARF about Armenia’s shifting political landscape. We reflect on Republic Day and the legacy of the First Armenian Republic, explore Armenia’s contradictory stance on EU membership amid Russian pressure, and examine Pashinyan’s push to amend the constitution to satisfy Azerbaijani demands. The conversation also covers rising opposition calls for either elections or impeachment, the growing threat of Azerbaijani aggression along Armenia’s borders, recent corruption scandals, and the implications of Armenia hosting the 2026 EPC Summit during an election year.</p>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Reflections on May 28, Republic Day, and the legacy of the First Armenian Republic</li>
<li>Armenia’s contradictory messaging on EU membership and its relations with Russia</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s push for constitutional changes to meet Azerbaijani demands</li>
<li>Debate over elections versus impeachment ahead of 2026</li>
<li>The growing risk of an Azerbaijani invasion and the muted official response</li>
<li>Corruption allegations surrounding the mayor of Vagharshapat</li>
<li>Joint military drills by Iran and Azerbaijan in Karabakh</li>
<li>Announcement that Armenia will host the 2026 EPC Summit</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h3>
<ul>
<li>What does Republic Day mean in today’s post-Artsakh Armenia?</li>
<li>Is Armenia pursuing EU membership or just signaling for political gain?</li>
<li>Why is the government downplaying EU negotiations while passing pro-accession laws?</li>
<li>Can constitutional changes be used to bypass internal resistance to the peace deal?</li>
<li>Are elections or impeachment more realistic paths for regime change?</li>
<li>How does the ARF view participation in 2026, and will it remain in the Hayastan alliance?</li>
<li>What’s the ARF’s stance on “closing the Artsakh chapter”?</li>
<li>How serious is the risk of an Azerbaijani invasion, and why is the government silent?</li>
<li>Does allowing buyouts from military service undermine national defense?</li>
<li>Is hosting the EPC Summit a genuine geopolitical move or election-season theater?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenia-has-not-submitted-an-application-for-eu-membership-mirzoyan/?sphrase_id=9809547">Armenia has not submitted EU membership application – Mirzoyan (ARKA)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/438-hrant-mikaelian-tirana-lavrov-armenia-democracy-demilitarization-kitchen-sink/">Lavrov’s visit to Armenia – Groong Ep 438</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/valentina-matvienko-s-visit-to-armenia-to-take-place-on-june-5-6-/">Valentina Matvienko to visit Armenia – ARKA</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/russia-tasks-its-officials-to-advance-russian-interests-in-armenia-through-soft-power/">Russia appoints official to expand influence in Armenia – OC Media</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ally-armenia-says-putin-arrested-if-he-visited-country-2023-3">Putin could be arrested in Armenia – Business Insider</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.crisisgroup.org/europe-central-asia/caucasus/armenian-azerbaijani-conflict/armenia-and-azerbaijan-getting-peace-agreement-across-finish-line">Armenia and Azerbaijan Peace Talks – Crisis Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33421420.html">New corruption case involving Vagharshapat mayor – Azatutyun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33420510.html">Joint Iran-Azerbaijan military drills – Azatutyun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1220733">Armenia to host EPC Summit – Armenpress</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/441/thumbnail-441.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/441/thumbnail-441.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17251078-arthur-khachatryan-republic-day-eu-drama-and-constitutional-chaos-ep-441-may-25-2025.mp3" length="4951" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4123</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Էդգար Ղազարյան – Խոսքի ազատության գործը և մամուլի վիճակը Հայաստանում | Ep 440, May 28, 2025
[EP440]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/440-edgar-ghazaryan-media-freedom-armenia-free-speech-pashinyan-press-censorship-velvet-revolution/</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 17:36:57 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17244529-ep-440-may-28-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>440</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Էդգար Ղազարյան – Խոսքի ազատության գործը և մամուլի վիճակը Հայաստանում | Ep 440, May 28, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - May 28, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>INTERVIEW IN ARMENIAN / ՀԱՐՑԱԶՐՈՒՅՑ ՀԱՅԵՐԵՆ
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
* Criminal charges used to silence Edgar Ghazaryan / Քրեական մեղադրանքներ՝ Էդգար Ղազարյանին լռեցնելու համար
* Media freedom in Armenia under Pashinyan's rule / Մամուլի ազատությունը Հայաստանում Փաշինյանի կառավարման օրոք
* Public broadcasting under political control / Հանրային հեռարձակումը քաղաքական վերահսկողության տակ
* State-aligned actors spreading misinformation / Ապատեղեկատվություն տարածող պետական կողմի դերակատարները
Episode 440 | Recorded: March 9, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
INTERVIEW IN ARMENIAN / ՀԱՐՑԱԶՐՈՒՅՑ ՀԱՅԵՐԵՆ
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
* Criminal charges used to silence Edgar Ghazaryan / Քրեական մեղադրանքներ՝ Էդգար Ղազարյանին լռեցնելու համար
* Media freedom in Armenia under Pashinyan's rule / Մամուլի ազատությունը Հայաստանում Փաշինյանի կառավարման օրոք
* Public broadcasting under political control / Հանրային հեռարձակումը քաղաքական վերահսկողության տակ
* State-aligned actors spreading misinformation / Ապատեղեկատվություն տարածող պետական կողմի դերակատարները
Episode 440 | Recorded: March 9, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
INTERVIEW IN ARMENIAN / ՀԱՐՑԱԶՐՈՒՅՑ ՀԱՅԵՐԵՆ
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
* Criminal charges used to silence Edgar Ghazaryan / Քրեական մեղադրանքներ՝ Էդգար Ղազարյանին լռեցնելու համար
* Media freedom in Armenia under Pashinyan's rule / Մամուլի ազատությունը Հայաստանում Փաշինյանի կառավարման օրոք
* Public broadcasting under political control / Հանրային հեռարձակումը քաղաքական վերահսկողության տակ
* State-aligned actors spreading misinformation / Ապատեղեկատվություն տարածող պետական կողմի դերակատարները
Episode 440 | Recorded: March 9, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Freedom of Speech on Trial: Media Suppression and the Case of Edgar Ghazaryan</strong></p>
<p>In this <em>Conversations on Groong</em> episode, we speak with Edgar Ghazaryan, economist, diplomat, and former ambassador of Armenia to Poland, about the state of media freedom in Armenia. The interview, conducted in Armenian, was recorded on March 9, 2025.</p>
<p>Ghazaryan’s recent criminal prosecution—which includes a speech restriction as a condition for his release—serves as a focal point for understanding the pressures placed on independent voices in Armenia today. We explore how the government’s tactics, from public media control to legal harassment, threaten free expression and democratic health in the country.</p>
<p><strong>Խոսքի ազատությունը դատավարության տակ. ԶԼՄ-ների ճնշումը և Էդգար Ղազարյանի գործը</strong></p>
<p>Այս <em>Conversations on Groong</em> թողարկման մեջ մենք զրուցում ենք տնտեսագետ, դիվանագետ և Լեհաստանում Հայաստանի նախկին դեսպան Էդգար Ղազարյանի հետ Հայաստանում լրատվամիջոցների ազատության վիճակի մասին։ Հարցազրույցը, որը վարվել է հայերենով, ձայնագրվել է 2025 թվականի մարտի 9-ին։</p>
<p>Ղազարյանի վերջին քրեական հետապնդումը, որը ներառում է խոսքի սահմանափակումը որպես նրա ազատ արձակման պայման, ծառայում է որպես կիզակետ՝ այսօր Հայաստանում անկախ ձայների վրա գործադրվող ճնշումները հասկանալու համար: Մենք ուսումնասիրում ենք, թե ինչպես են կառավարության մարտավարությունները՝ հանրային լրատվամիջոցների վերահսկողությունից մինչև իրավական հետապնդում, սպառնում երկրում խոսքի ազատությանը և ժողովրդավարական առողջությանը:</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Armenia’s press freedom rankings and reality</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The media landscape before, during, and after the 2018 “Velvet Revolution”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Legal and administrative pressure on journalists and outlets</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Rise of online media</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The use of misinformation and fake news by state-aligned actors</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Հայաստանի մամուլի ազատության վարկանիշը և իրականությունը։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Լրատվական դաշտը 2018 թվականի «Թավշյա հեղափոխությունից» առաջ, ընթացքում և հետո։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Իրավական և վարչական ճնշում լրագրողների և լրատվամիջոցների վրա։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Առցանց լրատվամիջոցների աճ։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Պետական դերակատարների կողմից սատարող գործիչների կողմից կեղծ տեղեկատվության և կեղծ լուրերի օգտագործումը։</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Why is Edgar Ghazaryan being prosecuted, and what are the implications for free speech?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What has happened to media freedom since 2018?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How are public media institutions like the Public Broadcasting Council being used politically?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>What role does the government play in spreading or controlling misinformation?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ինչո՞ւ է Էդգար Ղազարյանը հետապնդվում, և ի՞նչ հետևանքներ ունի դա խոսքի ազատության համար։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ի՞նչ է պատահել լրատվամիջոցների ազատության հետ 2018 թվականից ի վեր։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ինչպե՞ս են հանրային լրատվամիջոցների ինստիտուտները, ինչպիսին է Հանրային հեռարձակման խորհուրդը, քաղաքականապես օգտագործվում։</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ի՞նչ դեր է խաղում կառավարությունը ապատեղեկատվության տարածման կամ վերահսկման գործում։</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://rsf.org/en/country/armenia">RSF: Armenia Press Freedom Index</a></li>
<li><a href="https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-net/scores">Freedom House: Armenia Freedom on the Net Scores</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNDDrqjhytE">Edgar Ghazaryan’s media-focused thematic discussion on YouTube</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/440/thumbnail-440.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/440/thumbnail-440.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17244529-ep-440-may-28-2025.mp3" length="47890351" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3988</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Levon Zourabian - US-Iran, Russia-Ukraine, Armenia-Azerbaijan, 2026 Campaigns | Ep 439, May 26, 2025
[EP439]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/439-levon-zourabian-us-iran-nuclear-negotiations-middle-east-abraham-accords--geopolitic-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-2026-elections/</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2025 00:11:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17232012-levon-zourabian-us-iran-russia-ukraine-armenia-azerbaijan-2026-campaigns-ep-439-may-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>439</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Levon Zourabian - US-Iran, Russia-Ukraine, Armenia-Azerbaijan, 2026 Campaigns | Ep 439, May 26, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 05/26/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian), Vice-President of the Armenian National Congress (ANC) party of Armenia.
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Russia and Ukraine
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Armenian Elections in 2026
Episode 439 | Recorded: May 23, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian), Vice-President of the Armenian National Congress (ANC) party of Armenia.
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Russia and Ukraine
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Armenian Elections in 2026
Episode 439 | Recorded: May 23, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian), Vice-President of the Armenian National Congress (ANC) party of Armenia.
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Russia and Ukraine
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Armenian Elections in 2026
Episode 439 | Recorded: May 23, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we speak with Levon Zourabian, Vice President of the Armenian National Congress (ANC), about the rising political temperature in Armenia ahead of the 2026 parliamentary elections. We explore the fragile geopolitical environment surrounding Armenia—from renewed US-Iran negotiations and the expansion of the Abraham Accords to Russia’s shifting posture in Ukraine and the South Caucasus. Zourabian also weighs in on the Armenia-Azerbaijan talks, Lavrov’s visit to Yerevan, and whether a new political coalition can challenge Nikol Pashinyan’s hold on power.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s Middle East diplomacy and Iran-Israel tensions</li>
<li>Abraham Accords and Armenia’s rumored inclusion</li>
<li>Russia’s war in Ukraine and its strategic effects</li>
<li>Armenia-Azerbaijan “peace talks” and rising unilateral demands</li>
<li>Lavrov’s visit and Russia’s recalibrated South Caucasus role</li>
<li>Domestic political alignment ahead of Armenia’s 2026 elections</li>
<li>ANC’s plans for a new political coalition</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Can renewed US-Iran talks stabilize the region, or are they a prelude to war?</li>
<li>How serious is Armenia’s possible inclusion in the Abraham Accords?</li>
<li>What are the likely outcomes of the war in Ukraine, and how will they affect Armenia?</li>
<li>Are the Armenia-Azerbaijan talks legitimate negotiations or coercive ultimatums?</li>
<li>Is Russia reasserting influence in the South Caucasus, and at what cost to Armenian sovereignty?</li>
<li>Will Pashinyan try to align the 2026 elections with a constitutional referendum?</li>
<li>Can a new opposition force emerge to challenge Pashinyan and Kocharyan?</li>
<li>Does the ANC foresee any alliance with the Republican Party (RPA)?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="other-resources">Other Resources</h2>
<ul>
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<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<p>Don&rsquo;t forget to support us!</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/439/thumbnail-439.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/439/thumbnail-439.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17232012-levon-zourabian-us-iran-russia-ukraine-armenia-azerbaijan-2026-campaigns-ep-439-may-27-2025.mp3" length="62328474" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>5191</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Tirana, Lavrov, Armenian Un-Democracy, Demilitarization, and More | Ep 438, May 18, 2025
[EP438]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/438-hrant-mikaelian-tirana-lavrov-armenia-democracy-demilitarization-kitchen-sink/</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 08:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17213949-hrant-mikaelian-tirana-lavrov-armenian-un-democracy-demilitarization-and-more-ep-438-may-18-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>438</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Tirana, Lavrov, Armenian Un-Democracy, Demilitarization, and More | Ep 438, May 18, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week In Review - May 18, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in Tirana
* Russia’s Lavrov in Yerevan
* Democracy in Jeopardy
* Armenia’s Demilitarization by Any Other Name
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 438 | Recorded: May 21, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in Tirana
* Russia’s Lavrov in Yerevan
* Democracy in Jeopardy
* Armenia’s Demilitarization by Any Other Name
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 438 | Recorded: May 21, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in Tirana
* Russia’s Lavrov in Yerevan
* Democracy in Jeopardy
* Armenia’s Demilitarization by Any Other Name
* The Kitchen Sink
Episode 438 | Recorded: May 21, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Pashinyan in Tirana</strong>: Very little was shared in advance about his meetings with Erdogan and Aliyev; post-meeting reports reveal renewed demands, including the removal of Mt. Ararat from Armenia’s coat of arms. European leaders echoed calls for a &ldquo;swift&rdquo; peace deal.</li>
<li><strong>Lavrov’s Visit to Yerevan</strong>: Russia aims to stay relevant in normalization talks; seeks presence, not outcomes.</li>
<li><strong>Crackdown on Journalism</strong>: Armenian journalists face persecution; authorities draft new anti-media laws.</li>
<li><strong>Municipal Corruption &amp; Political Decline</strong>: Tigran Avinyan allies arrested; public confidence in Yerevan city leadership slipping.</li>
<li><strong>Election 2026 and Opposition Rifts</strong>: Kocharian eyes a comeback; factions split between elections and impeachment.</li>
<li><strong>Military Reform = Demilitarization?</strong>: $52,000 bill to shorten service seen as quiet demilitarization.</li>
<li><strong>The Kitchen Sink Segment</strong>: Follow-ups on Iran-Armenia ties, parliament chaos, and defense import cuts.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>What exactly are Aliyev’s expanding demands, and why does the West appear complicit?</li>
<li>Why is Pashinyan negotiating secretly with Erdogan while Turkey blockades Armenia?</li>
<li>Can Lavrov’s visit restore Russia’s influence in Armenia, or is it just optics?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s military reform a step toward national weakening under external pressure?</li>
<li>Why are Western civil society groups silent as press freedom erodes in Armenia?</li>
<li>Can the Armenian opposition realistically unseat Pashinyan in 2026—or are they too fragmented?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/baku-continues-to-insist-on-changes-to-armenian-constitution-and-now-coat-of-arms/">Aliyev Demands New Concessions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1219721">Lavrov in Yerevan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33418459.html">Zangezur TV Journalist Charged</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33419421.html">Kocharian’s Interview</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jam-news.net/just-one-month-of-military-service-in-armenia-for-a-price/">Military Reform Law</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<hr>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/438/thumbnail-438.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/438/thumbnail-438.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17213949-hrant-mikaelian-tirana-lavrov-armenian-un-democracy-demilitarization-and-more-ep-438-may-18-2025.mp3" length="4064" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48799254</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Ehsan Movahedian - Iran Amidst Geopolitical Tensions | Ep 437, May 19, 2025
[EP437]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/437-ehsan-movahedian-iran-amidst-geopolitical-tensions-pezeshkian-armenia-azerbaijan-israel-usa-russia-syria/</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17185780-ehsan-movahedian-iran-amidst-geopolitical-tensions-ep-437-may-18-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>437</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ehsan Movahedian - Iran Amidst Geopolitical Tensions | Ep 437, May 19, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 05/19/2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Pezeshkian Visit to Baku
* Iran-Armenia Relations
* US Support for Azerbaijan
Episode 437 | Recorded: May 16, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Pezeshkian Visit to Baku
* Iran-Armenia Relations
* US Support for Azerbaijan
Episode 437 | Recorded: May 16, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* US-Iran Nuclear Talks
* Pezeshkian Visit to Baku
* Iran-Armenia Relations
* US Support for Azerbaijan
Episode 437 | Recorded: May 16, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="episode-437-iran-amidst-geopolitical-tensions--ehsan-movahedian">Episode 437: Iran Amidst Geopolitical Tensions – Ehsan Movahedian</h2>
<h3 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed:</h3>
<ul>
<li>US-Iran Nuclear Talks and Trump&rsquo;s Middle East Visit</li>
<li>Pezeshkian’s Visit to Baku and the Zangezur Corridor Debate</li>
<li>Iran-Armenia Relations Amid Regional Pressures</li>
<li>The Abraham Accords and Potential South Caucasus Expansion</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed:</h3>
<ul>
<li>How is Iran responding to Trump’s nuclear deal proposal and U.S. sanctions?</li>
<li>What implications does Pezeshkian’s Baku visit hold for Iran-Armenia relations?</li>
<li>Why is Iran opposed to the Zangezur Corridor, and what is its alternative proposal?</li>
<li>How is Iran navigating internal divisions between reformists and conservatives regarding foreign policy?</li>
<li>Could the Abraham Accords be leveraged to further isolate Iran in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources:</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-us-is-getting-very-close-nuclear-deal-with-iran-2025-05-15/">Reuters: Trump says US is getting very close to nuclear deal with Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-iran-given-draft-deal-proposal-i-dont-know-if-netanyahu-can-get-hostages-out/">Times of Israel: Trump: Iran given draft deal proposal, &lsquo;I don&rsquo;t know&rsquo; if Netanyahu can get hostages out</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/16/trump-calls-on-iran-to-move-quickly-on-nuclear-proposal">Al Jazeera: Trump calls on Iran to &lsquo;move quickly&rsquo; on nuclear proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250428-iranian-president-visits-azerbaijan-as-ties-warm">France 24: Pezeshkian visit to Baku as ties warm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://niacouncil.org/irans-president-pezeshkian-visits-azerbaijan-amid-efforts-to-revive-ties/">NIAC: Iran&rsquo;s Pezeshkian visits Azerbaijan to revive ties</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/04/28/3301043/pezeshkian-affirms-azerbaijan-s-sovereignty-over-karabakh-in-visit-to-baku">Tasnim News: Pezeshkian affirms Azerbaijan’s sovereignty over Karabakh</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/amn-karavarakan-banky-339-milion-dolarov-kvarkavori-zenk-pokhadrogh-adrbejanakan-aviaynkeroutyany/33372552.html">Azatutyun: EXIM Bank approves $339M loan to Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/231430/Iran-US-delegations-to-resume-talks-this-weekend">Mehr News: Iran-US talks to resume this weekend</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/iran-port-massive-explosion-rcna203147">NBC News: Explosion at Shahid Rajaee Port</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-talks-nuclear-b86262ea0b1fed38df40855deaf79258">AP News: Iran-US nuclear talks update</a></li>
<li><a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/trump-iran-2671887077">Responsible Statecraft: US-Iran tensions rise amid talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/05/04/trump-iran-nuclear-program-dismantled">Axios: Trump demands dismantling of Iran&rsquo;s nuclear program</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/437/thumbnail-437.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/437/thumbnail-437.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17185780-ehsan-movahedian-iran-amidst-geopolitical-tensions-ep-437-may-18-2025.mp3" length="32217314" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2682</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - May 9, Victory Day and Parade, Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s Historical Revision | Ep 436, May 15, 2025
[EP436]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/436-pietro-shakarian-may-9-victory-day-russia-moscow-armenia-putin-xi-jinping-geopolitics-nikol-pashinyan-historical-revision-world-war-2/</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 11:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17166991-pietro-shakarian-victory-day-and-artsrun-hovhannisyan-s-historical-revision-ep-436-may-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>436</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - May 9, Victory Day and Parade, Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s Historical Revision | Ep 436, May 15, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 05/15/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* May 9, Victory Day and Parade
* Pashinyan, Aliyev Posture at Victory Day
* Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s Historical Revision
* Armenia and Artsakh Contributions to WW2
Episode 436 | Recorded: May 15, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* May 9, Victory Day and Parade
* Pashinyan, Aliyev Posture at Victory Day
* Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s Historical Revision
* Armenia and Artsakh Contributions to WW2
Episode 436 | Recorded: May 15, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* May 9, Victory Day and Parade
* Pashinyan, Aliyev Posture at Victory Day
* Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s Historical Revision
* Armenia and Artsakh Contributions to WW2
Episode 436 | Recorded: May 15, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Conversations on Groong, historian Pietro Shakarian joins us to discuss the evolving narratives surrounding Victory Day on May 9, 2025, particularly as they relate to Armenia, Russia, and the broader post-Soviet space. Shakarian examines how Armenia’s contributions to World War II are being downplayed amidst rising geopolitical tensions and how figures like Artsrun Hovhannisyan are attempting to rewrite the country’s historical role. The conversation also delves into the symbolic significance of the Immortal Regiment march in Armenia, the political posturing of Nikol Pashinyan and Ilham Aliyev during the Moscow parade, and the story of Gevorg Kolozyan, an Armenian who became a resistance fighter in Italy during the war.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Victory Day Parade in Moscow (May 9, 2025):</strong> A discussion of the geopolitical implications of Victory Day, including the attendance of Chinese President Xi Jinping and the absence of Western leaders.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia’s Position and Posturing:</strong> Analysis of Nikol Pashinyan’s attendance at the parade without military support and Ilham Aliyev’s last-minute cancellation, highlighting the shifting regional dynamics.</li>
<li><strong>Historical Revisionism in Armenia:</strong> Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s portrayal of Armenia’s World War II legacy, downplaying Armenian contributions and promoting misleading narratives that echo Nazi rhetoric.</li>
<li><strong>Immortal Regiment March in Armenia:</strong> The significance of the Immortal Regiment as a unifying tradition in Armenia and how it serves as a counterpoint to the government’s efforts to reshape historical narratives.</li>
<li><strong>Gevorg Kolozyan - The Armenian in the Italian Resistance:</strong> The story of Gevorg Kolozyan, an Armenian from Gavar who joined the Italian resistance during World War II and is buried in Radicondoli, Tuscany.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How is Victory Day being recontextualized globally amidst rising geopolitical tensions, especially by China and the United States?</li>
<li>Why did Nikol Pashinyan attend the Moscow parade without sending a military contingent, and what message does this send to regional allies and adversaries?</li>
<li>What are the potential implications of Artsrun Hovhannisyan’s historical revisionism for Armenian national identity and collective memory?</li>
<li>How does the Immortal Regiment march in Armenia contrast with the state’s current attempts to downplay the country’s World War II legacy?</li>
<li>Who was Gevorg Kolozyan, and how did his legacy as an Armenian resistance fighter in Italy resonate with the broader themes of wartime heroism and sacrifice?</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/436/armenian-marshals-admirals.webp" alt="Armenian Marshals and Admirals of the USSR"  title="Armenian Marshals and Admirals of the USSR" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="tribute-to-an-armenian-hero-in-italy">Tribute to an Armenian Hero in Italy</h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/436/gevorg-kolozyan.webp" alt="Gevorg Kolozyan"  title="Gevorg Kolozyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><a href="https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%B3%D6%87%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%A3_%D5%94%D5%B8%D5%AC%D5%B8%D5%A6%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6">Gevorg Kolozyan</a> was just a young man from Nor Bayazet (today Gavar).</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/436/nor-bayazet.webp" alt="Nor Bayazet/Gavar"  title="Nor Bayazet/Gavar" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>He was captured by the Germans during World War II. But Gevorg didn’t stay a prisoner. He escaped and joined the Italian resistance, fighting alongside the <a href="https://www.radiomaremmarossa.it/partigiani/xxiii-brigata-garibaldi-guido-radi-boscaglia/">Garibaldi</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigate_Garibaldi">Brigade</a>. He led missions to capture German soldiers and disrupt Nazi supply lines. Even after being wounded, he kept fighting until the end.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/436/kolozyan-italian-newspaper.webp" alt="Kolozyan - Italian Newspaper"  title="Kolozyan Italian Newspaper" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Today, he is <a href="https://resistenzatoscana.org/monumenti/radicondoli/tomba_di_kolesian/">buried</a> in the cemetery of <a href="https://memo.anpi.it/monumenti/897/tomba-di-kolesian/">Radicondoli</a>, a small town in Tuscany — far from the Armenian small town where he grew up.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/436/gevorg-kolozyan-resting-place.webp" alt="Kolozyan Final Resting PLace"  title="Kolozyan Final Resting Place" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/436/thumbnail-436.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/436/thumbnail-436.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17166991-pietro-shakarian-victory-day-and-artsrun-hovhannisyan-s-historical-revision-ep-436-may-16-2025.mp3" length="30923011" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2574</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Victory Day, India Pakistan, Armenia Azerbaijan, Pope Leo XIV | Ep 435, May 11, 2025
[EP435]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/435-arthur-martirosyan-may-9-victory-day-russia-moscow-india-pakistan-war-armenia-azerbaijan-american-pope-leo-xiv/</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 14:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17163755-arthur-martirosyan-may-9-india-pakistan-armenia-azerbaijan-new-pope-ep-435-may-11-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>435</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Victory Day, India Pakistan, Armenia Azerbaijan, Pope Leo XIV | Ep 435, May 11, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* American Pope
Episode 435 | Recorded: May 12, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 435 | Recorded: May 12, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* Ukraine
* India and Pakistan
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Episode 435 | Recorded: May 12, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary">Summary</h2>
<p>In this Week in Review episode, we sit down with Arthur G. Martirosyan, a conflict management expert, to discuss the broader implications of Victory Day in Moscow, where Xi Jinping’s presence underscored China’s growing influence and Trump’s push for a US-centric WWII holiday sparked controversy. We explore Armenia’s shifting narrative through a controversial interview aired on Public TV and the contrasting approaches of Armenia and Azerbaijan to the parade. The episode also delves into escalating tensions between India and Pakistan, Trump’s proposed ceasefire in Ukraine, and the implications of the election of the first American Pope for the Armenian Church.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed:</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Victory Day in Moscow:</strong> Xi Jinping’s presence, EU leaders’ attendance despite pressure, and Trump’s proposed US-centric Victory Day.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia and Azerbaijan’s differing approaches to Victory Day:</strong> Pashinyan attends but does not send troops; Aliyev skips the event but sends a contingent.</li>
<li><strong>Historical Narratives in Armenia:</strong> Armenia’s Public TV airs a prime-time interview with Artsrun Hovhannisyan challenging post-Soviet narratives.</li>
<li><strong>Russia-Ukraine Conflict:</strong> New missile strikes; Trump threatens sweeping sanctions to force a ceasefire.</li>
<li><strong>India-Pakistan Tensions:</strong> Drone warfare, missile strikes, and Trump’s ceasefire announcement amid ongoing violations.</li>
<li><strong>Regional Alliances:</strong> Turkey and Azerbaijan back Pakistan; Israel aligns with India; implications for Armenia and Iran.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia-Azerbaijan Peace Talks:</strong> Pashinyan and Armenian officials suggest an imminent peace deal as border clashes persist.</li>
<li><strong>New Pope Leo XIV:</strong> First American Pope elected; implications for the Armenian Church and its engagement with the Vatican.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed:</h2>
<ul>
<li>How is Russia using Victory Day to signal its alignment with emerging powers like China and the Global South?</li>
<li>Is Trump’s proposed US-centric Victory Day part of a broader effort to rewrite WWII narratives and reinforce American exceptionalism?</li>
<li>How significant is the divergence between Armenia and Azerbaijan’s approach to Victory Day in Moscow?</li>
<li>What is the impact of Trump’s push for a ceasefire in Ukraine on the ongoing conflict and regional stability?</li>
<li>Can Armenia leverage shifting alliances amid the India-Pakistan conflict to its advantage?</li>
<li>What is the real state of the Armenia-Azerbaijan peace talks amid continued border clashes?</li>
<li>How might the new Pope Leo XIV influence the Vatican’s stance on Armenian issues, considering its recent engagement with Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources:</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/10/pakistan-says-three-air-bases-attacked-by-indian-missiles-live-updates">Guardian Live Update - Pakistan Reports Air Base Attacks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-operation-sindoor-05-10-25">CNN Live Update - Operation Sindoor</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1219258">Armenpress - New Pope Leo XIV Elected</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1219273">Armenpress - Pope Leo XIV’s Vatican Agenda</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ln80lzk7ko">BBC - First American Pope Elected</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/NLFYH-I985g">Artsrun Hovhannisyan&rsquo;s Revisionist Interview To Armenian Public TV</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/435/thumbnail-435.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/435/thumbnail-435.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17163755-arthur-martirosyan-may-9-india-pakistan-armenia-azerbaijan-new-pope-ep-435-may-11-2025.mp3" length="51129138" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4258</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - US-Iran Tensions, Armenia-Azerbaijan, Victory Day, Journalist Assaulted | Ep 434, May 4, 2025
[EP434]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/434-benyamin-poghosyan-us-iran-tensions-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-victory-day-journalist-assault-yerevan/</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 00:04:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17115513-benyamin-poghosyan-us-iran-tensions-armenia-azerbaijan-victory-day-journalist-assaulted-ep-434-may-4-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>434</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - US-Iran Tensions, Armenia-Azerbaijan, Victory Day, Journalist Assaulted | Ep 434, May 4, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran Sanctions Escalate Amid Tensions
* Journalist Beaten Inside Yerevan Office
* Moscow Celebrates Victory Day Parade
* Armenia Caught Between EU and Russia
Episode 434 | Recorded: May 6, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Iran Sanctions Escalate Amid Tensions
* Journalist Beaten Inside Yerevan Office
* Moscow Celebrates Victory Day Parade
* Armenia Caught Between EU and Russia
Episode 434 | Recorded: May 6, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Iran Sanctions Escalate Amid Tensions
* Journalist Beaten Inside Yerevan Office
* Moscow Celebrates Victory Day Parade
* Armenia Caught Between EU and Russia
Episode 434 | Recorded: May 6, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary">Summary</h2>
<p>In this Week in Review episode recorded on May 6, 2025, we discuss the latest developments in Armenia, the South Caucasus, and beyond with Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, a senior fellow at APRI Armenia and Chairman of the Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.</p>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li>US-Iran Tensions and Escalating Sanctions</li>
<li>Assault on Journalist in Yerevan Government Office</li>
<li>Moscow Victory Day Parade and Armenia’s Geopolitical Crossroads</li>
<li>Armenia-Azerbaijan Talks – Stalemate and Implications for 2026 Elections</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s Growing Influence and Iran’s Diplomatic Countermoves</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the trajectory of US-Iran negotiations given the new sanctions and postponement of talks?</li>
<li>How might the secondary oil sanctions on Iran affect its economy and Armenia’s energy imports?</li>
<li>What is the political fallout from the assault on journalist Arthur Chakhoyan, and how has the Republic Party responded?</li>
<li>How significant is Armenia’s attendance at Moscow’s Victory Day Parade amidst pressure from the EU?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan’s demands for an extraterritorial corridor through Armenia escalate into renewed conflict?</li>
<li>What is the status of Armenia-Azerbaijan negotiations, and how might upcoming elections impact diplomatic efforts?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<h3 id="iran-sanctions--us-iran-negotiations">Iran Sanctions &amp; US-Iran Negotiations</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/05/04/trump-iran-nuclear-program-dismantled">Axios: Trump Calls for Dismantling Iran’s Nuclear Program</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/231430/Iran-US-delegations-to-resume-talks-this-weekend">Mehr News: Iran-US Talks Postponed</a></li>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114433959082847679">Truth Social: Trump’s Secondary Sanctions Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-says-buying-iranian-oil-must-stop-threatens-secondary-sanctions-purchasers-2025-05-01/">Reuters: New Sanctions on Iranian Oil</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="moscow-victory-day-parade">Moscow Victory Day Parade</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/05/03/is-may-9-canceled-in-moscow-serbian-president-vucic-urgently-hospitalized">EADaily: Speculation Around May 9 Parade</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-ban-serbia-president-joins-124629634.html">Yahoo News: EU Leaders Warn of Repercussions for Attending Moscow Parade</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="yerevan-beating--journalist-assaulted-inside-government-office">Yerevan Beating – Journalist Assaulted Inside Government Office</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33403251.html">Azatutyun: Republic Party Defends Violence</a></li>
<li><a href="https://oc-media.org/russia-protests-armenian-bucha-visit/">OC Media: Reactions to Armenia’s Bucha Visit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0yB5QftJX4UwGLGEKGgVWDFoQTqs8aeitGcJDzwBt1t3yqNGCvqkpFHY5semZFxGzl&amp;id=100016322520223&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZVEs95AK8CmpTrg3uIirvYdk6BnGhiDQ-a6utqlyLmeSHir7FEq_pb_vCpusqBn-oQg-5nQW5uZsMzqM82gnHp7G2FNd8FF7jZVBjaDplYLeh341uUdYA05zgpXtsc7FPZIZzG-MdZY1vTbwtQ0Q0O8lm6_a83SqMc_r1AwPfrEXdTpwbhiMqGGznEVy4Uf8mJa5W-tWBN5UPIHOBEud68yI_7D2EYRwgxpdex0ptDnpg&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R">Aram Sargsyan and Republic Party Blaming Putin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/YQCLUhxyC8c?si=MjSlBRSykdblbrEo">Video of incident</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="arthur-chakhoyan">Arthur Chakhoyan</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/videos/617221971360128">Failed kindergarten renovation by company associated with Civil Contract</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/videos/1085262919377598/?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZU6qSVx2D_GGqXp7Fq3ljFEy6lMbbYVttTLD5KoT3nMEX_qJzBpq8YaKKKDWSDr1xQWBkLqBnIbW_eoM_0zzzuK6SSsXnVjtcno2l19natCiMartwTZHN4FIL9vYBjk1NUyYPH4qlPXyCdrbRz572xOjpBr7JYut4nHQBnXNwN4_MLfSQd_DUefvgp3QPPhx6PAhKwuRMOiP14ob1qn_yv7&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R">Channel 5 coverage of corruption exposure</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/posts/pfbid0ikdsmenegFeEX2VsvHLKSRcokJ2cqTmhBsLCpEVArSQDz1vFtqD7urdepgF41WMQl">Chakhoyan FB Post #1</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=577103002061726">Chakhoyan FB Post #2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/videos/577103002061726">Chakhoyan FB Post #3</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/videos/236007926259377">Chakhoyan FB Post #4</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Art.Chakhoyan/videos/1596286871183106">Chakhoyan FB Post #5</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cEjwvom43Wo">Youtube video of Chakhoyan&rsquo;s work</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/434/thumbnail-434.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/434/thumbnail-434.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17115513-benyamin-poghosyan-us-iran-tensions-armenia-azerbaijan-victory-day-journalist-assaulted-ep-434-may-4-2025.mp3" length="40500323" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3372</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Scott Horton - on his book Provoked, U.S. Foreign Policy, Color Revolutions, Ukraine War, Armenia, and more | Ep 433, May 4, 2025
[EP433]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/433-scott-horton-ukraine-war-nato-expansion-armenia-iran-pipeline-politics-color-revolutions/</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2025 01:59:25 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17094454-scott-horton-on-his-book-provoked-u-s-foreign-policy-colored-revolutions-ukraine-war-armenia-and-more-ep-433-may-4-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>433</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Scott Horton - on his book Provoked, U.S. Foreign Policy, Color Revolutions, Ukraine War, Armenia, and more | Ep 433, May 4, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - May 4, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* What happened to Antiwar Voices
* Color Revolutions as US Strategy
* Armenia and Pipeline Geopolitics
* And more!
Episode 433 | Recorded: May 2, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* What happened to Antiwar Voices
* Color Revolutions as US Strategy
* Armenia and Pipeline Geopolitics
* And more!
Episode 433 | Recorded: May 2, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* What happened to Antiwar Voices
* Color Revolutions as US Strategy
* Armenia and Pipeline Geopolitics
* And more!
Episode 433 | Recorded: May 2, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary"><strong>Summary</strong></h2>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we speak with longtime antiwar author and radio host Scott Horton, whose latest book Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine lays out how decades of U.S. provocations — from NATO expansion to proxy wars and pipeline politics — set the stage for the 2022 invasion of Ukraine. We also discuss the silencing of dissent in American media, the disappearance of the antiwar left, and how Armenia fits into the evolving chessboard of U.S. foreign policy.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>How the U.S. provoked Russia into war with Ukraine</li>
<li>The role of NATO expansion and Western interference in post-Soviet states</li>
<li>Maidan, Minsk, and the road to war</li>
<li>The silencing of antiwar voices in American media and politics</li>
<li>Armenia’s precarious role in post-Soviet pipeline geopolitics</li>
<li>Media narratives and the suppression of dissenting views</li>
<li>Washington’s bipartisan war consensus and the think tank ecosystem</li>
<li>Trump’s stance on Russia, NATO, and the war</li>
<li>How war with Russia risks global catastrophe</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the main provocations by the U.S. that led to the Ukraine war, according to Scott Horton?</li>
<li>Why does the author argue that the war could have been avoided?</li>
<li>How have media and think tanks shaped public understanding of the war?</li>
<li>What happened to the antiwar movement in the U.S. since the early 2000s?</li>
<li>Why did Minsk II fail, and what role did the West play in that failure?</li>
<li>How do oil and gas pipeline politics intersect with U.S. policy in the Caucasus, especially for Armenia?</li>
<li>What are the broader dangers of continuing to escalate this war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="images">Images</h2>
<h3 id="baku-tbilisi-ceyhan-pipeline">Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/433/BTC_Pipeline.webp" alt="Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) Pipeline"  title="Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Image 1: Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan pipeline (BTC Pipeline) (Source: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baku%E2%80%93Tbilisi%E2%80%93Ceyhan_pipeline_%28BTC_Pipeline%29.svg">Wikipedia</a>)</p>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://scotthorton.org/product/provoked/"><em>Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine</em> (Scott Horton)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/">The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html">Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground(RAND)</a></li>
<li>On Kyrgyzstan&rsquo;s &ldquo;Tulip Revolution&rdquo;
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB110929289650463886">In Putin&rsquo;s Backyard, Democracy Stirs &ndash; With U.S. Help (WSJ)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/30/world/asia/us-helped-to-prepare-the-way-for-kyrgyzstans-uprising.html">U.S. Helped to Prepare the Way for Kyrgyzstan&rsquo;s Uprising (NYT)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Dan Morgan and David B. Ottaway Series on the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/europe/caspian100498.htm">Azerbaijan&rsquo;s Riches Alter the Chessboard (WP)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/europe/caspian100598.htm">Gas Pipeline Bounces Between Agendas (WP)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/europe/caspian100698.htm">Kazakh Field Stirs U.S.-Russian Rivalry (WP)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Other Links
<ul>
<li><a href="https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2022/03/02/the-history-behind-the-russia-ukraine-war/">The History Behind the Russia-Ukraine War (Antiwar.com)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k">“Yats is the guy” – Nuland leaked call (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4">Mearsheimer: Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault (YouTube, 2015)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/us/politics/us-ukraine-weapons.html">Inside the U.S. Effort to Arm Ukraine and Deter Russia (NYT)</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/433/thumbnail-433.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/433/thumbnail-433.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17094454-scott-horton-on-his-book-provoked-u-s-foreign-policy-colored-revolutions-ukraine-war-armenia-and-more-ep-433-may-4-2025.mp3" length="65485158" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>5454</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Armenian State Genocide Denial, Politics of Silence, Pezeshkian in Baku, Bandar Abbas | Ep 432, Apr 27, 2025
[EP432]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/432-dziunik-aghajanian-armenian-genocide-recognition-and-denial-trump-erdogan-eu-macron-iran-azerbaijan-bandar-abbas.md/</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17077223-dziunik-aghajanian-armenian-state-genocide-denial-politics-of-silence-pezeshkian-in-baku-bandar-abbas-ep-432-apr-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>432</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Armenian State Genocide Denial, Politics of Silence, Pezeshkian in Baku, Bandar Abbas | Ep 432, Apr 27, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - April 27, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Genocide Recognition and State Silence
* Iran-Azerbaijan Talks & Geopolitical Shifts
* Bandar Abbas: Explosion, or Warning?
Episode 432 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Genocide Recognition and State Silence
* Iran-Azerbaijan Talks & Geopolitical Shifts
* Bandar Abbas: Explosion, or Warning?
Episode 432 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Genocide Recognition and State Silence
* Iran-Azerbaijan Talks & Geopolitical Shifts
* Bandar Abbas: Explosion, or Warning?
Episode 432 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Week in Review episode was recorded on April 29, 2025. We’re joined by diplomat and former ambassador Dziunik Aghajanian to discuss major developments in and around Armenia during the week of April 21–27, 2025.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>When the State Steps Back from Remembrance</li>
<li>The Politics of Silence Around April 24</li>
<li>Iran-Azerbaijan Bilateral Talks in Baku</li>
<li>Bandar Abbas Explosion and the INSTC</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the implications of Armenia deprioritizing Genocide recognition?</li>
<li>Should the expulsion of Armenians from Artsakh be considered a continuation of the Genocide?</li>
<li>How are the international responses to April 24 evolving — and what do they reveal?</li>
<li>What’s behind Iran’s diplomatic outreach to Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>How should we interpret the explosion in Bandar Abbas?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/genocide-recognition-not-a-priority-for-yerevan-pashinyan-tells-turkish-reporters/">Pashinyan: Genocide recognition no longer a priority</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/statements-and-messages/item/2020/04/24/Nikol-Pashinyan-Speech-April-24/">Nikol Pashinyan’s 2020 April 24 Speech</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/296/text">U.S. Congress Genocide Resolution H.Res.296 (2019)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/presidential-message-on-armenian-remembrance-day-2025/">White House 2025 Genocide Commemoration Statement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1915311317482623349">Macron’s April 24 Statement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://alphanews.am/en/russian-embassy-in-armenia-on-russias-position-regarding-armenian-genocide-issue/">Russian Embassy’s Genocide Recognition Statement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/erdogan-extends-condolences-for-ottoman-armenians/news">Erdogan Extends Condolences – Daily Sabah</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/death-toll-blast-irans-bandar-abbas-port-rises-25-2025-04-27/">Bandar Abbas Port Explosion Coverage – Reuters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/groong/status/1915528346320200169">Groong Tweet: EUMA’s censored statement comparison</a></li>
</ul>
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<ul>
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<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/432/thumbnail-432.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/432/thumbnail-432.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17077223-dziunik-aghajanian-armenian-state-genocide-denial-politics-of-silence-pezeshkian-in-baku-bandar-abbas-ep-432-apr-27-2025.mp3" length="42842174" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3567</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Alberto M. Fernandez – Vatican-Baku Partnership &amp; Erosion of Moral Authority | Ep 431, Apr 29, 2025
[EP431]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/431-alberto-fernandez-vatican-azerbaijan-gregorian-university-artsakh-ethnic-cleansing-armenian-genocide-diplomatic-crisis-eastern-christians-us-foreign-policy-trump-administration-iran-middle-east/</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 21:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17070051-alberto-m-fernandez-vatican-baku-partnership-and-erosion-of-moral-authority-ep-431-may-2-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>431</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Alberto M. Fernandez – Vatican-Baku Partnership &amp; Erosion of Moral Authority | Ep 431, Apr 29, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong – Apr 29, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Alberto M. Fernandez](/guest/afernandez)
#### Topics:
* Vatican’s alliance with Azerbaijan
* Whitewashing of Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing
* Global silence on Armenian Genocide
* U.S. policy under Trump and risks to Armenia
Episode 431 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Alberto M. Fernandez](/guest/afernandez)
#### Topics:
* Vatican’s alliance with Azerbaijan
* Whitewashing of Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing
* Global silence on Armenian Genocide
* U.S. policy under Trump and risks to Armenia
Episode 431 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Alberto M. Fernandez](/guest/afernandez)
#### Topics:
* Vatican’s alliance with Azerbaijan
* Whitewashing of Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing
* Global silence on Armenian Genocide
* U.S. policy under Trump and risks to Armenia
Episode 431 | Recorded: April 29, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="show-notes">Show Notes</h1>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we speak with Ambassador Alberto M. Fernandez about the Vatican’s collaboration with Azerbaijan, particularly the recent conference held at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome that attempted to whitewash the ethnic cleansing of Armenians from Artsakh. Fernandez shares his critique of the Vatican’s role in legitimizing authoritarian propaganda, and we also explore the muted international response to Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day, the implications of Armenia’s shifting diplomatic posture, and how Trump’s return to the White House could affect regional dynamics in the South Caucasus and the Middle East.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li>Vatican’s moral erosion through partnership with Azerbaijan</li>
<li>How the Gregorian University’s conference legitimized revisionist propaganda</li>
<li>Reaction from Armenians and Eastern Christian communities</li>
<li>Cardinal Claudio Gugerotti’s troubling role and the Vatican’s credibility gap</li>
<li>Western diplomatic hypocrisy toward Azerbaijan vs. Russia</li>
<li>Armenian government’s retreat from genocide recognition as a diplomatic strategy</li>
<li>Trump’s past statements and current positioning on Armenia and Eastern Christians</li>
<li>Iran, Israel, and the risk of war — regional spillover on Armenia</li>
<li>Structural bias in U.S. State Department policy toward Armenians</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Why did the Gregorian University host a conference echoing Azerbaijani propaganda?</li>
<li>How does “religious diplomacy” serve authoritarian state interests?</li>
<li>What should the next pope do to rebuild trust with Armenians?</li>
<li>Can the Vatican’s moral standing recover from this episode?</li>
<li>Why did Western leaders downplay the 110th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide?</li>
<li>Has Armenia&rsquo;s current leadership weakened its own diplomatic leverage by deprioritizing genocide recognition?</li>
<li>How might the Trump administration approach the Armenia–Azerbaijan–Iran nexus?</li>
<li>Does the State Department’s Near East Bureau have a structural bias against non-Arab minorities?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/gregorian-azerbaijan-conference">Azerbaijani Conference at Vatican University Spurs Armenian Outrage (National Catholic Register)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/05/21/donations-tilt-vatican-in-favor-of-azerbaijan/">Donations Tilt Vatican in Favor of Azerbaijan (Armenian Weekly)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/en-how-the-vatican-helped-legitimize-the-autocracy-in-azerbaijanen/">How the Vatican Helped Legitimize Azerbaijan’s Autocracy (IRPI Media)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://horizonweekly.ca/en/over-350-scholars-condemn-vaticans-complicity-in-azerbaijans-erasure-of-armenian-heritage/">Over 350 Scholars Condemn Vatican Complicity (Horizon Weekly)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.armenianchurch.org/en/news/%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bmother-see-condemns-the-organization-of-the-western-azerbaijan-exhibition-in-warsaw/11800">Mother See Condemns “Western Azerbaijan” Exhibit in Warsaw (Armenian Church)</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
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<ul>
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<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/431/thumbnail-431.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/431/thumbnail-431.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17070051-alberto-m-fernandez-vatican-baku-partnership-and-erosion-of-moral-authority-ep-431-may-2-2025.mp3" length="37336692" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3108</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Vatican Betrays Armenians, Aids Azerbaijani Propaganda (Hadjian &amp; Matiossian) | Ep 430, Apr 29, 2025
[EP430]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/430-hadjian-matiossian-vatican-azerbaijan-propaganda-cultural-erasure-artsakh-history/</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17062525-vatican-betrays-armenians-aids-azerbaijani-propaganda-hadjian-matiossian-ep-430-apr-29-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>430</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Vatican Betrays Armenians, Aids Azerbaijani Propaganda (Hadjian &amp; Matiossian) | Ep 430, Apr 29, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - April 28, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Avedis Hadjian](/guest/ahadjian)
* [Vartan Matiossian](/guest/vmatiossian)
#### Topics:
* Vatican Hosts Fake Azeri Conference
* Azerbaijani Propaganda and Cultural Misappropriation
* Weakness and Silent Complicity of the Armenian State
Episode 430 | Recorded: April 26, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Avedis Hadjian](/guest/ahadjian)
* [Vartan Matiossian](/guest/vmatiossian)
#### Topics:
* Vatican Hosts Fake Azeri Conference
* Azerbaijani Propaganda and Cultural Misappropriation
* Weakness and Silent Complicity of the Armenian State
Episode 430 | Recorded: April 26, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
* [Avedis Hadjian](/guest/ahadjian)
* [Vartan Matiossian](/guest/vmatiossian)
#### Topics:
* Vatican Hosts Fake Azeri Conference
* Azerbaijani Propaganda and Cultural Misappropriation
* Weakness and Silent Complicity of the Armenian State
Episode 430 | Recorded: April 26, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="show-notes">Show Notes</h1>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we discuss the Vatican&rsquo;s controversial collaboration with Azerbaijan to whitewash the erasure of Armenian history.</p>
<p>In the final weeks of Pope Francis&rsquo; life, the Pontifical Gregorian University hosted a conference titled <em>&ldquo;Christianity in Azerbaijan: History and Modernity,&rdquo;</em> backed by Azerbaijan’s regime. The event, with no Armenian participation, advanced a false narrative erasing the Christian Armenian heritage of Artsakh.</p>
<p>We are joined by:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Avedis Hadjian</strong>, journalist and co-author of the letter signed by over 350 scholars condemning the Vatican’s complicity.</li>
<li><strong>Dr. Vartan Matiossian</strong>, historian, Executive Director of the Eastern Prelacy of the Armenian Apostolic Church of New York, and a co-author of the letter.</li>
</ul>
<p>Together, we examine how the Vatican’s actions fit into a larger pattern of corruption, Azerbaijani propaganda, and the troubling silence of the Armenian state.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<h3 id="1-corruption-of-the-church">1. Corruption of the Church</h3>
<ul>
<li>The Vatican’s growing ties with Azerbaijan over the past decade.</li>
<li>Vatican institutions accepting donations and honoring Mehriban Aliyeva.</li>
<li>The Pontifical Gregorian University&rsquo;s event promoting Azerbaijan’s revisionist history.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2-azerbaijani-propaganda-and-cultural-appropriation">2. Azerbaijani Propaganda and Cultural Appropriation</h3>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan’s coordinated campaign to erase Armenian cultural heritage.</li>
<li>The misuse of religious platforms to legitimize false historical claims.</li>
<li>Broader soft power strategies involving Italy and the Vatican.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="3-weakness-or-silent-complicity-of-the-armenian-state">3. Weakness (or Silent Complicity) of the Armenian State</h3>
<ul>
<li>The muted response of the Armenian government to these provocations.</li>
<li>The risks of inaction in defending Armenian historical narratives.</li>
<li>Broader reflections on Armenia’s diplomatic challenges post-2020.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What prompted the open letter signed by over 350 scholars condemning the Vatican’s actions?</li>
<li>How does Azerbaijan use cultural appropriation as a political weapon?</li>
<li>Why are religious institutions, like the Vatican, attractive targets for authoritarian propaganda?</li>
<li>Has the Armenian Apostolic Church or the Armenian state meaningfully responded?</li>
<li>Should certain Vatican-affiliated clergy be declared persona non grata by Armenian churches?</li>
<li>What are the broader implications for Christian communities that look to the Vatican for moral leadership?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/05/21/donations-tilt-vatican-in-favor-of-azerbaijan/">Donations Tilt Vatican in Favor of Azerbaijan (Armenian Weekly)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/en-how-the-vatican-helped-legitimize-the-autocracy-in-azerbaijanen/">How the Vatican Helped Legitimize Azerbaijan’s Autocracy (IRPI Media)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/gregorian-azerbaijan-conference">Gregorian Azerbaijan Conference (National Catholic Register)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/armenian-leaders-pan-vatican-azeri">Armenian Leaders Criticize Vatican Azeri Event (Pillar Catholic)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://horizonweekly.ca/en/over-350-scholars-condemn-vaticans-complicity-in-azerbaijans-erasure-of-armenian-heritage/">Over 350 Scholars Condemn Vatican Complicity (Horizon Weekly)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.armenianchurch.org/en/news/%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bmother-see-condemns-the-organization-of-the-western-azerbaijan-exhibition-in-warsaw/11800">Mother See Condemns “Western Azerbaijan” Exhibit in Warsaw (Armenian Church)</a></li>
</ul>
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<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/430/thumbnail-430.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/430/thumbnail-430.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17062525-vatican-betrays-armenians-aids-azerbaijani-propaganda-hadjian-matiossian-ep-430-apr-29-2025.mp3" length="47764578" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3976</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Iran, EXIM and Azerbaijan, Gyumri, Artsakh Refugees in Armenia | Ep 429, Apr 20, 2025
[EP429]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/429-hrant-mikaelian-iran-exim-bank-azerbaijan-armenia-gyumri-effect-on-civil-contract-hating-artsakh-armenians-pope-francis-vatican/</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 08:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17030834-hrant-mikaelian-iran-exim-and-azerbaijan-gyumri-artsakh-refugees-in-armenia-ep-429-apr-20-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>429</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Iran, EXIM and Azerbaijan, Gyumri, Artsakh Refugees in Armenia | Ep 429, Apr 20, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week In Review - April 20, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
- **US-Iran Talks & Israeli Threats**
- **Trump Administration Support for Azerbaijan**
- **Iran-Azerbaijan Relations & Corridor Demands**
- **Vatican Controversy & Global Anti-Armenian Propaganda**
- **Local Elections in Gyumri and Parakar**
- **Government-Fueled Hate Against Artsakh Refugees**
Episode 429 | Recorded: April 22, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
- **US-Iran Talks & Israeli Threats**
- **Trump Administration Support for Azerbaijan**
- **Iran-Azerbaijan Relations & Corridor Demands**
- **Vatican Controversy & Global Anti-Armenian Propaganda**
- **Local Elections in Gyumri and Parakar**
- **Government-Fueled Hate Against Artsakh Refugees**
Episode 429 | Recorded: April 22, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
- **US-Iran Talks & Israeli Threats**
- **Trump Administration Support for Azerbaijan**
- **Iran-Azerbaijan Relations & Corridor Demands**
- **Vatican Controversy & Global Anti-Armenian Propaganda**
- **Local Elections in Gyumri and Parakar**
- **Government-Fueled Hate Against Artsakh Refugees**
Episode 429 | Recorded: April 22, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>US-Iran Talks &amp; Israeli Threats:</strong><br>
Israel is considering limited strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, even as the U.S. and Iran resume nuclear negotiations in Rome. Russia has emerged as a potential mediator, raising questions about its growing role in regional diplomacy.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Trump Administration Support for Azerbaijan:</strong><br>
The U.S. Export-Import Bank approved a $339M loan to Azerbaijan’s Silk Way Airlines, despite its ties to arms transport and the Aliyev regime—igniting backlash over the contradiction with U.S. human rights commitments.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Iran-Azerbaijan Relations &amp; Corridor Demands:</strong><br>
Iran’s President Pezeshkian will visit Baku for high-level talks, with connectivity through Nakhichevan on the agenda. Azerbaijan continues to pressure Armenia for unrestricted extraterritorial access, despite already having controlled routes via Iran.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Vatican Controversy &amp; Global Anti-Armenian Propaganda:</strong><br>
In the final weeks of Pope Francis’s life, the Vatican hosted a conference backed by Azerbaijan that promoted revisionist narratives erasing Armenian Christian history. Days later, Azerbaijan staged a similar exhibit in Warsaw, furthering its global disinformation campaign.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Local Elections in Gyumri and Parakar:</strong><br>
Armenia’s ruling Civil Contract party lost ground in both cities, with opposition candidates taking mayoral control. The results are seen as a rebuke of the government ahead of possible constitutional and EU-related referenda.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Government-Fueled Hate Against Artsakh Refugees:</strong><br>
Top Armenian officials made inflammatory statements blaming Artsakh refugees for their own displacement. Civil society and media linked to the ruling party amplified the rhetoric, while the state cuts support programs—fueling accusations of a deliberate campaign of hostility.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What impact would an Israeli strike on Iran have on the progress of U.S.-Iran negotiations?</li>
<li>Can Russia’s mediation boost its influence in the South Caucasus, and at what cost to Armenia?</li>
<li>How did Vatican institutions become platforms for Azerbaijani historical revisionism?</li>
<li>Why is the U.S. financing Azerbaijan’s state-linked airline despite its role in arms trafficking?</li>
<li>Do recent local election outcomes signal a broader collapse of support for Civil Contract?</li>
<li>What is the Armenian government trying to achieve by inciting hatred against Artsakh refugees?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-still-eyeing-limited-attack-irans-nuclear-facilities-2025-04-19/">Reuters: Israel Still Eyeing Limited Attack on Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/20/moscow-may-gain-key-role-in-iran-nuclear-deal-as-us-talks-progress">Guardian: Moscow May Gain Role in Iran Nuclear Deal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/05/21/donations-tilt-vatican-in-favor-of-azerbaijan/">Armenian Weekly: Donations Tilt Vatican in Favor of Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/en-how-the-vatican-helped-legitimize-the-autocracy-in-azerbaijanen/">IRPI Media: Vatican Helped Legitimize the Autocracy in Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/gregorian-azerbaijan-conference">National Catholic Register: Azerbaijani Conference at Vatican Spurs Outrage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/armenian-leaders-pan-vatican-azeri">Pillar Catholic: Armenian Leaders Pan Vatican-Azeri Event</a></li>
<li><a href="https://horizonweekly.ca/en/over-350-scholars-condemn-vaticans-complicity-in-azerbaijans-erasure-of-armenian-heritage/">Horizon Weekly: 350 Scholars Condemn Vatican’s Complicity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.armenianchurch.org/en/news/%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bmother-see-condemns-the-organization-of-the-western-azerbaijan-exhibition-in-warsaw/11800">Armenian Church: Mother See Condemns Warsaw Exhibit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/the-aviation-complex-that-transports-weapons-for-azerbaijan">OCCRP: Silk Way Airlines and Arms Transport</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/757077/no-business-as-usual-with-azerbaijan-until-progress-on-peace-with-armenia-says-us/">CivilNet: No Business As Usual with Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/04/20/2202876.html">168.am: Protests Over Hate Speech Against Artsakh Refugees</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/yerevan-wont-defend-artsakh-armenians-rights-because-they-dont-live-there-mirzoyan-says/">Asbarez: Mirzoyan Says Armenia Won’t Defend Artsakh Rights</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/04/18/Artsakh-ombudsman/3129377">Panorama.am: Artsakh Ombudsman Condemns Sukiasyan</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/429/thumbnail-429.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/429/thumbnail-429.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/17030834-hrant-mikaelian-iran-exim-and-azerbaijan-gyumri-artsakh-refugees-in-armenia-ep-429-apr-20-2025.mp3" length="41712299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3473</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Anna Karapetyan - Iran-Armenia Military Exercises, Azerbaijan Border Shootings, Mirzoyan at Antalya Diplomatic Forum, Genocide Denial by the Armenian Government | Ep 428, Apr 13, 2025
[EP428]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/428-anna-karapetyan-iran-armenia-military-exercise-azerbaijan-border-shootings-mirzoyan-in-antalya-genocide-denial/</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 00:10:36 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16987818-anna-karapetyan-iran-armenia-military-exercises-azerbaijan-border-shootings-mirzoyan-at-antalya-diplomatic-forum-genocide-denial-by-the-armenian-government-ep-428-apr-13-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>428</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Karapetyan - Iran-Armenia Military Exercises, Azerbaijan Border Shootings, Mirzoyan at Antalya Diplomatic Forum, Genocide Denial by the Armenian Government | Ep 428, Apr 13, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - April 13, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran-Armenia Military Exercises
* Armenian Villages Terrorized by Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Antalya
* Armenia’s Genocide Denial
Episode 428 | Recorded: April 14, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran-Armenia Military Exercises
* Armenian Villages Terrorized by Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Antalya
* Armenia’s Genocide Denial
Episode 428 | Recorded: April 14, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran-Armenia Military Exercises
* Armenian Villages Terrorized by Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Antalya
* Armenia’s Genocide Denial
Episode 428 | Recorded: April 14, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Iran-Armenia Military Exercises</li>
<li>Azerbaijani Terror Against Armenian Border Villages</li>
<li>Armenia at the Antalya Diplomatic Forum</li>
<li>Genocide Denial by Armenia’s Leadership</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What’s the political significance of Iran-Armenia joint military drills?</li>
<li>How are Azerbaijani provocations along the border impacting Armenian civilians—and why is Yerevan silent?</li>
<li>What was Ararat Mirzoyan’s role at the Antalya Diplomatic Forum, and what message did Armenia send?</li>
<li>Is the Pashinyan government actively denying the Armenian Genocide? And how does the international community respond?</li>
<li>What do Turkey and Azerbaijan gain by demanding constitutional change in Armenia?</li>
<li>Is the continued recognition of the Armenian Genocide abroad a counter to official denial at home?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Aftermath of Gyumri elections: opposition consolidating, but concerns of government retaliation persist.</li>
<li><strong>Anna</strong>: Government forcing new “Citizens Day” holiday on people. Pretty much around the time of the Armenian Genocide.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong>: Pathetic Armenian performance at the Antalya Diplomatic Forum. Is Pashinyan’s “real Armenia” tomorrow’s “western Azerbaijan”?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/ZartonkMedia/status/1911824117000745006">Khnatsakh village center hit by Azerbaijani fire</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/04/13/2199302.html">168.am – Azerbaijani troops told Armenians to withdraw from Tavush</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_XItk8JhfU">Antalya Forum panel: Mirzoyan, Bayramov, and Georgia FM</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33376399.html">Azatutyun coverage – Armenia and constitutional reform</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33378466.html">Azatutyun – Armenia, Turkey to continue normalization talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33382523.html">Azatutyun – Srbuhi Galyan on fast-tracking constitutional change</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-the-continued-denialist-rhetoric-of-armenian-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan">Lemkin Institute condemns Pashinyan’s denialism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.anc.org.au/news/Media-Releases/Three-MPs-Raise-Armenian-Genocide-for-First-Time-in-18-Years-in-Victorian-Parliament">ANC Australia – MPs raise Genocide in Parliament</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sundayguardianlive.com/featured/name-the-horror-time-to-recognise-for-what-it-was-armenian-genocide">Sunday Guardian – Op-ed on Armenian Genocide recognition</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/428/thumbnail-428.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/428/thumbnail-428.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16987818-anna-karapetyan-iran-armenia-military-exercises-azerbaijan-border-shootings-mirzoyan-at-antalya-diplomatic-forum-genocide-denial-by-the-armenian-government-ep-428-apr-13-2025.mp3" length="38887950" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3238</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Warwick Powell - U.S., China, Tariff Wars, and Multipolarity | Ep 427, Apr 8, 2025
[EP427]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/427-warwick-powell-usa-china-tariff-wars-iran-war-multipolarity-belt-road-initiative-instc/</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2025 00:11:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16954922-warwick-powell-u-s-china-tariff-wars-and-multipolarity-ep-427-apr-10-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>427</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Warwick Powell - U.S., China, Tariff Wars, and Multipolarity | Ep 427, Apr 8, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 04/08/2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* U.S. Tariff Wars
* Target: Iran
* The Global South
* The Belt and Road Initiative
Episode 427 | Recorded: April 6, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* Target: Iran
* The Global South
* The Belt and Road Initiative
Episode 427 | Recorded: April 6, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* U.S. Tariff Wars
* Target: Iran
* The Global South
* The Belt and Road Initiative
Episode 427 | Recorded: April 6, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="summary">Summary</h2>
<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we speak with Professor Warwick Powell about the tectonic shifts in global trade, economics, and geopolitics. From Washington&rsquo;s renewed tariff wars to China&rsquo;s expanding influence through BRICS and infrastructure initiatives like the BRI, Powell shares his insights on the emerging multipolar order and the declining dominance of the U.S.-centric financial system.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>U.S. tariff wars and their political and economic underpinnings</li>
<li>China’s evolving role in the global trade architecture</li>
<li>Rising tensions between the U.S. and Iran</li>
<li>The emergence of BRICS as a multipolar economic bloc</li>
<li>Dollar de-weaponization and alternative financial infrastructures (e.g., BRICS Clear)</li>
<li>Belt &amp; Road Initiative vs. India’s INSTC: competition or complementarity?</li>
<li>Strategic navigation for small states like Armenia in a shifting global order</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the real causes of U.S. industrial decline, and are tariffs the right response?</li>
<li>How will the new wave of tariffs affect China, BRICS, and global trade structures?</li>
<li>Are we witnessing the end of globalization or its transformation into a multipolar model?</li>
<li>What are the implications of a potential U.S.-Iran conflict on regional and global alliances?</li>
<li>How effective are BRICS&rsquo; efforts to bypass the U.S. dollar in global trade?</li>
<li>What long-term effects could de-dollarization have on U.S. capital markets?</li>
<li>Are Belt and Road and INSTC competing initiatives, or can they be complementary?</li>
<li>How should countries like Armenia approach these evolving regional infrastructure projects?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/04/02/iran-closes-airspace-and-brings-the-army-to-full-combat-readiness-mehr">Iran closes airspace, full combat readiness (Mehr)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202504/1331388.shtml">Global Times – Iran crisis coverage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-chinese-foreign-ministers-discuss-irans-nuclear-program-korea-russia-2025-04-01/">Reuters – Russia-China dialogue on Iran</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/427/thumbnail-427.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/427/thumbnail-427.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16954922-warwick-powell-u-s-china-tariff-wars-and-multipolarity-ep-427-apr-10-2025.mp3" length="42046877" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3501</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - US-Iran, Gyumri, Armenia MFA Blames Artsakh, Negotiations with Azerbaijan | Ep 426, Apr 6, 2025
[EP426]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/426-benyamin-poghosyan-usa-iran-escalation-aftermath-of-gyumri-and-parakar-elections-armenia-mfa-blames-artsakh-leadership-negotiations-with-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 00:04:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16944104-benyamin-poghosyan-us-iran-gyumri-armenia-mfa-blames-artsakh-negotiations-with-azerbaijan-ep-426-apr-6-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>426</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - US-Iran, Gyumri, Armenia MFA Blames Artsakh, Negotiations with Azerbaijan | Ep 426, Apr 6, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - April 6, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
* US Iran Escalation
* Aftermath of Gyumri and Parakar
* MFA blames Artsakh for Regional Isolation
* Bullets and Peace
Episode 426 | Recorded: April 8, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* MFA blames Artsakh for Regional Isolation
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Episode 426 | Recorded: April 8, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* US Iran Escalation
* Aftermath of Gyumri and Parakar
* MFA blames Artsakh for Regional Isolation
* Bullets and Peace
Episode 426 | Recorded: April 8, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>The rapidly escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran: military deployments, Trump’s ultimatums, and potential outcomes</li>
<li>Analysis of Civil Contract&rsquo;s municipal election losses in Gyumri and Parakar</li>
<li>Armenia&rsquo;s Foreign Ministry statements blaming the former Artsakh leadership for regional isolation</li>
<li>The state of Armenia-Azerbaijan &ldquo;peace&rdquo; negotiations and constitutional changes under duress</li>
<li>Border attacks and Pashinyan&rsquo;s balancing act between international PR and local security failures</li>
<li>Social instability surrounding Artsakh refugees and slashing of housing aid</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Are the Trump administration’s demands to Iran designed to provoke conflict or extract genuine concessions?</li>
<li>What strategic calculations underlie Trump&rsquo;s nuclear ultimatum and military maneuvers in the region?</li>
<li>How likely are Russia or China to intervene or influence the U.S.-Iran standoff?</li>
<li>What are the implications of Civil Contract’s municipal setbacks for 2026 parliamentary elections?</li>
<li>Was the MFA’s statement about Artsakh a factual correction or an attempt to rewrite history?</li>
<li>What does Aliyev’s continued aggression signal, despite Armenia’s acceptance of a “peace” document?</li>
<li>Is Armenia rushing to rewrite its constitution to appease Aliyev or to secure reelection for Pashinyan?</li>
<li>How does the targeting of Artsakh refugees and diminishing aid tie into domestic political strategies?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/04/02/iran-closes-airspace-and-brings-the-army-to-full-combat-readiness-mehr">Iran closes airspace, raises combat readiness</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202504/1331388.shtml">China backs diplomacy, Global Times coverage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/07/politics/trump-us-iran-talks/index.html">Trump: US and Iran in direct talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/araghchi/status/1909381747709546786">Araghchi tweet confirming Iran&rsquo;s stance</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-maximum-pressure-on-iran/">Trump administration fact sheet on Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-chinese-foreign-ministers-discuss-irans-nuclear-program-korea-russia-2025-04-01/">Russia-China foreign ministers on Iran &amp; Korea</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20x7z36d56o">Gyumri-Parakar election results</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.balcanicaucaso.org/eng/Areas/Armenia/Pashinyan-faces-Gyumri-setback-as-opposition-eyes-2026-election-237167">Opposition eyes 2026 elections post-Gyumri</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33376198.html">RFE/RL on Artsakh blame controversy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33376316.html">Constitutional changes &amp; shooting incidents</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33376399.html">Pashinyan on fast-tracking constitutional reform</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/423">Previous conversation with Benyamin Poghosyan – Ep 423</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.commonspace.eu/news/statement-armenia-azerbaijan-political-dialogue-platform">Political Dialogue Statement: Armenia-Azerbaijan</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/426/thumbnail-426.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/426/thumbnail-426.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16944104-benyamin-poghosyan-us-iran-gyumri-armenia-mfa-blames-artsakh-negotiations-with-azerbaijan-ep-426-apr-6-2025.mp3" length="43232231" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3600</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Iran, US, Armenia, Fake Peace, Gyumri &amp; Parakar Municipal Elections | Ep 425, Mar 30, 2025
[EP425]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/425-arthur-khachatryan-iran-usa-armenia-fake-peace-gyumri-parakar-municipal-elections/</link><pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2025 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16901442-arthur-khachatryan-iran-us-armenia-fake-peace-gyumri-parakar-municipal-elections-ep-425-mar-30-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>425</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Iran, US, Armenia, Fake Peace, Gyumri &amp; Parakar Municipal Elections | Ep 425, Mar 30, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - 03/30/2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran Rejects US Offer of Direct Negotiations
* Iran and Armenia Ties
* Gyumri and Parakar Municipal Elections
* Artsakh Refugee Protests in Armenia
Episode 425 | Recorded: March 31, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran Rejects US Offer of Direct Negotiations
* Iran and Armenia Ties
* Gyumri and Parakar Municipal Elections
* Artsakh Refugee Protests in Armenia
Episode 425 | Recorded: March 31, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Iran Rejects US Offer of Direct Negotiations
* Iran and Armenia Ties
* Gyumri and Parakar Municipal Elections
* Artsakh Refugee Protests in Armenia
Episode 425 | Recorded: March 31, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Iran&rsquo;s rejection of U.S. offers for direct nuclear talks and its implications for Armenia.</li>
<li>Strategic implications of Armenia&rsquo;s shift toward the EU, and its potential impact on ties with Iran and regional security.</li>
<li>Local elections in Gyumri and Parakar, and their national political significance.</li>
<li>Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) refugee protests in Yerevan over unmet social and political demands.</li>
<li>Analysis of the so-called “peace process” between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>What are the regional consequences of Iran refusing direct U.S. negotiations but staying open to indirect talks?</li>
<li>Could Armenia realistically pursue a military or political alliance with Iran? What are the trade-offs?</li>
<li>How do the results of the Gyumri and Parakar municipal elections reflect shifts in Armenian political sentiment?</li>
<li>What does the Armenian government&rsquo;s lack of response to Artsakh refugees suggest about its policy priorities?</li>
<li>Is the Pashinyan administration’s proclaimed “peace deal” with Azerbaijan genuine or a political façade?</li>
<li>What would a just and sustainable peace in the South Caucasus actually require?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: The horror and inhumanity being suffered by the Palestinians in the hands of Israel, and to the cheers and encouragement of Western leaders.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: A fair peace can only be achieved with the interests of both sides taken into account. With the current government’s attitude, the only peace will be in the cemetery.
<ul>
<li>Book on Artsakh Negotiations Volume 1 out!</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Politico – <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/30/trump-threatens-bomb-iran-00259786">Trump threatens to bomb Iran</a></li>
<li>RFE/RL – <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33343087.html">Iran’s diplomatic visit to Yerevan</a></li>
<li>X (Ali Tahmizian) – <a href="https://x.com/AliTahmizian/status/1899768799991042265">Commentary on Armenia-Iran relations</a></li>
<li>Panorama – <a href="https://panorama.am/en/news/2025/03/31/Parakar-elections/3127988">Parakar elections results</a></li>
<li>1Lurer – <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2025/03/31/Preliminary-results-of-Gyumri-City-Council-election/1288782">Gyumri election preliminary results</a></li>
<li>Facebook (Hayakve) – <a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/posts/pfbid02RSkp78Sd1b5JRmZH8YeCSy6DVrQzopq7VQD1pXpu6eFpiD4WYGy8QV1NPTPJv7Usl">Gyumri post-election commentary</a></li>
<li>RFE/RL – <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33363285.html">Arrests and political pressure during elections</a></li>
<li>ArmRadio – <a href="https://en.armradio.am/2025/03/31/civil-contract-will-not-have-a-mayor-in-gyumri-martun-grigoryan-says/">Artsakh refugee protests</a></li>
<li>RFE/RL – <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33364015.html">“Peace” deal analysis</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/425/thumbnail-425.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/425/thumbnail-425.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16901442-arthur-khachatryan-iran-us-armenia-fake-peace-gyumri-parakar-municipal-elections-ep-425-mar-30-2025.mp3" length="37231614" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3100</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Illusions of Peace and Geopolitical Games | Ep 424 - Mar 23, 2025
[EP424]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/424-dziunik-aghajanian-middle-east-tensions-iran-strategy-armenia-azerbaijan-peace-talks-russia-eu-pivot-turkey-unrest-pows-gyumri-elections/</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16867525-dziunik-aghajanian-illusions-of-peace-and-geopolitical-games-ep-424-mar-23-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>424</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Illusions of Peace and Geopolitical Games | Ep 424 - Mar 23, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - March 23, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Trump’s Iran ultimatum explored
* Turkey’s protests seen as strategic
* Azerbaijan’s peace deal as smokescreen
* Armenia’s Westward drift analyzed
* Gyumri elections stir controversy
Episode 424 | Recorded: March 25, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Trump’s Iran ultimatum explored
* Turkey’s protests seen as strategic
* Azerbaijan’s peace deal as smokescreen
* Armenia’s Westward drift analyzed
* Gyumri elections stir controversy
Episode 424 | Recorded: March 25, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Trump’s Iran ultimatum explored
* Turkey’s protests seen as strategic
* Azerbaijan’s peace deal as smokescreen
* Armenia’s Westward drift analyzed
* Gyumri elections stir controversy
Episode 424 | Recorded: March 25, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <em>Groong Week in Review</em>, we sit down with former Armenian diplomat <strong>Dziunik Aghajanian</strong> to analyze recent developments in and around Armenia. We discuss escalating tensions in the Middle East, the implications of Trump’s outreach to Iran, Azerbaijan’s stalled peace process with Armenia, and the geopolitical games being played by Turkey and Azerbaijan. We also touch upon Armenia’s delicate balancing act between Russia and the West and explore the role of the Armenian diaspora in advocating for the release of Armenian POWs held by Azerbaijan. Finally, we delve into the upcoming Gyumri municipal elections and their broader implications.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ol>
<li>
<p><strong>Middle East Tensions and Trump’s Iran Strategy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff’s backchannel efforts with Iran.</li>
<li>Khamenei’s reaction to Trump’s proposals.</li>
<li>Implications for Armenia amid shifting U.S.-Iran relations.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Turkey’s Internal Unrest and Geopolitical Maneuvering</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Protests over Imamoglu’s arrest and Erdogan’s possible electoral strategy.</li>
<li>How Turkey’s actions impact the region and Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia-Azerbaijan Peace Process: A Diplomatic Illusion?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan’s preconditions and delays in signing the agreement.</li>
<li>Is Baku using the talks to maintain a facade while preparing for conflict?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia’s Diplomatic Tightrope Between Russia and the West</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s outreach to Lavrov and renewed EU accession push.</li>
<li>Is Armenia hedging its bets or fully pivoting toward the West?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Fate of Armenian POWs and the Diaspora’s Role</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>International calls for the release of Armenian POWs.</li>
<li>What actions can the diaspora take to elevate this issue?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Gyumri Elections: Political Maneuvering and Democratic Risks</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Allegations of manipulation and government interference.</li>
<li>The implications of the March 30 elections for Armenia’s political future.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the real motives behind Trump’s Iran strategy, and how might it affect Armenia?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijan genuinely seeking peace, or is this just a calculated delay tactic?</li>
<li>How is Armenia navigating its complex relationship with Russia while pursuing closer ties with the EU?</li>
<li>Can the Armenian diaspora pressure international actors to take meaningful steps toward securing the release of POWs?</li>
<li>Are the Gyumri municipal elections a microcosm of broader democratic challenges in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During the Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/03/19/trump-letter-iran-nuclear-deal">Axios – Trump’s Iran Letter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250321-iran-s-khamenei-says-us-threats-will-get-them-nowhere">France24 – Khamenei Rejects US Proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/511194/Iran-opposes-any-military-action-to-resolve-disputes-in-South">Tehran Times – Iran on South Caucasus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1214803">Armenpress – Mirzoyan-Lavrov Talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33357617.html">Azatutyun – Armenia’s EU Accession Bill</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.christiantoday.com/news/wcc-calls-for-release-of-armenian-hostages">Christian Today – WCC Demands POW Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1215243">Belgian Parliament Resolution on POWs</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="other-resources">Other Resources</h2>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/424/thumbnail-424.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/424/thumbnail-424.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16867525-dziunik-aghajanian-illusions-of-peace-and-geopolitical-games-ep-424-mar-23-2025.mp3" length="36853232" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3068</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Peace or Capitulation? Armenia's Dilemma &amp; Ukraine Shifts | Ep 423 - Mar 16, 2025
[EP423]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/423-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-peace-treaty-capitulation-ukraine-war-trump-putin-talks-witkoff-baku-israel-iran-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:04:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16812813-benyamin-poghosyan-peace-or-capitulation-armenia-s-dilemma-ukraine-shifts-ep-423-mar-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>423</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Peace or Capitulation? Armenia's Dilemma &amp; Ukraine Shifts | Ep 423 - Mar 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - March 16, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan "Treaty"**: Concessions, secrecy, opposition backlash.
* **Preconditions for Peace**: OSCE Minsk dissolution, constitutional changes.
* **Ukraine War Talks**: Jeddah negotiations, UAV attacks, Trump-Putin call.
* **Witkoff’s Baku Stop**: Mysterious visit raising geopolitical questions.
Episode 423 | Recorded: March 17, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan "Treaty"**: Concessions, secrecy, opposition backlash.
* **Preconditions for Peace**: OSCE Minsk dissolution, constitutional changes.
* **Ukraine War Talks**: Jeddah negotiations, UAV attacks, Trump-Putin call.
* **Witkoff’s Baku Stop**: Mysterious visit raising geopolitical questions.
Episode 423 | Recorded: March 17, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan "Treaty"**: Concessions, secrecy, opposition backlash.
* **Preconditions for Peace**: OSCE Minsk dissolution, constitutional changes.
* **Ukraine War Talks**: Jeddah negotiations, UAV attacks, Trump-Putin call.
* **Witkoff’s Baku Stop**: Mysterious visit raising geopolitical questions.
Episode 423 | Recorded: March 17, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<h3 id="1-armenia-azerbaijan-peace-agreement-concessions-or-capitulation"><strong>1. Armenia-Azerbaijan “Peace” Agreement: Concessions or Capitulation?</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Background</strong>: Since the November 9-10, 2020 ceasefire statement, Azerbaijan has dictated terms to Armenia, often using military force or threats. The latest development is the March 13 announcement of a finalized <strong>peace agreement</strong>, though many in Armenia see it as a <strong>capitulation</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>The Announcement</strong>: Azerbaijani Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov announced on March 13 that the <strong>text of the agreement</strong> was finalized. Armenia confirmed it later, claiming the announcement was supposed to be joint.</li>
<li><strong>Lack of Transparency</strong>: The treaty text remains undisclosed to the public, prompting Armenian opposition groups to label it a <strong>surrender document</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2-azerbaijans-preconditions-and-threats-of-military-force"><strong>2. Azerbaijan’s Preconditions and Threats of Military Force</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Unilateral Demands</strong>: Azerbaijan has attached preconditions before signing the treaty, including:
<ul>
<li><strong>Dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group</strong>, effectively erasing Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) from international negotiations.</li>
<li><strong>Constitutional changes in Armenia</strong>, removing references to the Armenian Genocide and Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Ramping Up Ceasefire Accusations</strong>: Following the treaty announcement, Azerbaijan has escalated claims of <strong>Armenian ceasefire violations</strong>, issuing <strong>three accusations on March 16 and three more on March 17</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>What This Means</strong>: These demands and escalations indicate that <strong>Azerbaijan may not intend to sign the agreement soon</strong>, instead using delays as leverage for further concessions.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="3-the-ukraine-war-and-trump-putin-negotiations"><strong>3. The Ukraine War and Trump-Putin Negotiations</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Jeddah Ceasefire Talks</strong>: Ukraine and Russia held peace negotiations in Jeddah last week.</li>
<li><strong>Largest Ever UAV Attack</strong>: The talks were overshadowed by <strong>Ukraine’s biggest drone attack on Russian cities</strong>, increasing tensions.</li>
<li><strong>Steve Witkoff’s Moscow Visit</strong>: U.S. Special Envoy <strong>Steve Witkoff</strong> met <strong>Putin</strong> following the Jeddah talks.</li>
<li><strong>Ceasefire Proposal</strong>: Putin did not immediately accept a ceasefire but left room for further <strong>negotiations</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>Trump-Putin Call Scheduled for March 18</strong>: A pivotal phone call is set between <strong>Trump and Putin</strong>, reportedly to discuss land divisions and control over key <strong>power plants</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="4-europes-escalation-and-militarization"><strong>4. Europe’s Escalation and Militarization</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>France &amp; UK’s Position</strong>: European rhetoric against Russia is hardening, with talk of rearmament.</li>
<li><strong>Military Build-up</strong>: Germany is considering converting <strong>Volkswagen factories into tank production facilities</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>UK’s Ground Troops Proposal</strong>: The UK has hinted at sending <strong>ground troops to Ukraine</strong>, further raising tensions.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="5-the-curious-witkoff-stopover-in-baku"><strong>5. The Curious Witkoff Stopover in Baku</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Unusual Visit</strong>: On his way back from Moscow, Witkoff made an <strong>unpublicized stop in Baku</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>Speculation on Israel &amp; Iran</strong>:
<ul>
<li><strong>Azerbaijan-Israel ties</strong> are deepening, with reports that <strong>Azerbaijan’s state oil company, SOCAR, has entered a deal for Israeli gas fields</strong>.</li>
<li>Discussions may have included <strong>potential Azerbaijani involvement in a future conflict with Iran</strong>.</li>
<li>Some sources speculate that <strong>Azerbaijan might be pushed to join the Abraham Accords</strong>, normalizing ties with Israel and Saudi Arabia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<h3 id="armenia-azerbaijan-peace-agreement--concessions"><strong>Armenia-Azerbaijan Peace Agreement &amp; Concessions</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Is this a genuine step toward peace, or a forced capitulation?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Why is the agreement text hidden from the Armenian public?</strong></li>
<li><strong>What are the risks of signing an agreement with undisclosed terms?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Has Pashinyan agreed to deliverables that aren’t in the document?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Are Azerbaijan’s preconditions a stalling tactic to delay signing while extracting more concessions?</strong></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ukraine-war--global-geopolitics"><strong>Ukraine War &amp; Global Geopolitics</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>What was the outcome of the Jeddah negotiations?</strong></li>
<li><strong>How does the Ukraine war impact the South Caucasus?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Will Trump’s direct negotiations with Putin lead to a breakthrough?</strong></li>
<li><strong>What does European militarization mean for the future of the conflict?</strong></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="witkoffs-visit--bakus-role-in-global-affairs"><strong>Witkoff’s Visit &amp; Baku’s Role in Global Affairs</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Why would Steve Witkoff visit Baku after Moscow?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Could this be related to Azerbaijan-Israel cooperation?</strong></li>
<li><strong>Is Azerbaijan preparing for involvement in a broader Middle East conflict?</strong></li>
<li><strong>How does Baku’s strategic position influence global diplomacy?</strong></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During The Show</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2025/03/14/opposition-warns-against-capitulation-as-armenia-and-azerbaijan-finalize-text-of-treaty/">Armenian Weekly - Treaty Announcement</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://oc-media.org/what-happened-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-last-week/">OC Media - Ceasefire Accusations</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/azerbaijan-accused-armenia-of-shelling-yerevan-1742132212.html">RBC Ukraine - Azerbaijan Accuses Armenia of Ceasefire Violations</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-says-he-will-talk-with-putin-tuesday-on-ending-ukraine-war-2f4ed5e4/">Wall Street Journal - Trump-Putin Call Announcement</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-765432">Jerusalem Post - Azerbaijan &amp; Israel’s Gas Deal</a></strong></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/423/thumbnail-423.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/423/thumbnail-423.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16812813-benyamin-poghosyan-peace-or-capitulation-armenia-s-dilemma-ukraine-shifts-ep-423-mar-16-2025.mp3" length="34480367" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2870</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Negotiations Expert: Ukraine-U.S. Ceasefire Agreement in Jeddah – Is Russia on Board? | Ep 422, Mar 12, 2025
[EP422]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/422-arthur-martirosyan-ukraine-ceasefire-jeddah-talks-russia-response-negotiations/</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 02:52:31 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16783106-negotiations-expert-ukraine-u-s-ceasefire-agreement-in-jeddah-is-russia-on-board-ep-422-mar-12-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>422</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Negotiations Expert: Ukraine-U.S. Ceasefire Agreement in Jeddah – Is Russia on Board? | Ep 422, Mar 12, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - March 12, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Ceasefire Terms:
* Negotiation Dynamics
* Posturing & International Pressure
* Risks & Challenges
Episode 422 | Recorded: March 12, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ceasefire Terms:
* Negotiation Dynamics
* Posturing & International Pressure
* Risks & Challenges
Episode 422 | Recorded: March 12, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Ceasefire Terms:
* Negotiation Dynamics
* Posturing & International Pressure
* Risks & Challenges
Episode 422 | Recorded: March 12, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we’re talking with negotiations expert Arthur G. Martirosyan about the recently announced Ukraine-U.S. ceasefire proposal from the Jeddah talks. While Kyiv and Washington have reached an agreement, Russia has yet to respond—leaving major questions about the deal’s viability. What does each side stand to gain? What are the risks? And is this a real step toward peace or just another pause in the conflict? Let’s dive in.</p>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Overview of the <strong>Ukraine-U.S. ceasefire proposal</strong> negotiated in Jeddah</li>
<li><strong>Russia’s pending response</strong> and its implications</li>
<li><strong>Negotiation strategies and leverage</strong> at play in the ceasefire deal</li>
<li><strong>Enforcement challenges and risks</strong> if the ceasefire is implemented</li>
<li><strong>International posturing and diplomatic pressure</strong> from the U.S., EU, and Ukraine</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What are the key terms of the <strong>Ukraine-U.S. ceasefire proposal</strong>?</li>
<li>What are the <strong>negotiation strategies</strong> behind the deal, and what leverage does each side hold?</li>
<li><strong>If Russia refuses the proposal, what are its best alternatives (BATNA)?</strong></li>
<li>How does public <strong>posturing</strong> from the U.S., Ukraine, and EU affect Russia’s decision-making?</li>
<li>What are the biggest <strong>risks and challenges</strong> of enforcing this ceasefire?</li>
<li>Can the U.S. <strong>walk away from this deal</strong>, or is it too invested?</li>
<li><strong>Is this a real step toward peace, or just another temporary pause?</strong></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.state.gov/joint-statement-on-the-united-states-ukraine-meeting-in-jeddah/">U.S. State Department Joint Statement on Jeddah Talks</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/03/11/ukraine-statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-following-the-ukraine-us-meeting-in-saudi-arabia/">EU’s response to the ceasefire proposal</a></strong></li>
<li><strong><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us-ukraine-meet-saudi-arabia-after-disastrous-white-house-talks-2025-03-11/">Marco Rubio’s statement on Russia’s responsibility</a></strong></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/422/thumbnail-422.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/422/thumbnail-422.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16783106-negotiations-expert-ukraine-u-s-ceasefire-agreement-in-jeddah-is-russia-on-board-ep-422-mar-12-2025.mp3" length="26686997" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2221</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Abkhazia Polls, Armenian Hostages in Baku, Yerevan Protests | Ep 421, Mar 2, 2025
[EP421]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/421-hrant-mikaelian-armenian-news-artsakh-abkhazia-elections-armenian-pows-yerevan-protests-azerbaijan-armenia-azerbaijan-relations-stalled-peace-talks-opposition-infighting-badra-gunba-adgur-ardzinba-baku-trials/</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16737132-hrant-mikaelian-abkhazia-polls-armenian-hostages-in-baku-yerevan-protests-ep-421-mar-2-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>421</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Abkhazia Polls, Armenian Hostages in Baku, Yerevan Protests | Ep 421, Mar 2, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week In Review - March 2, 2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* **Abkhaz Elections & Regional Implications** – The second round of Abkhazia’s presidential elections, the impact of mass protests, and what Badra Gunba’s victory means for the region.
* **Armenian Hostages in Baku** – Ongoing trials of Armenian POWs and former Artsakh leaders, reports of torture, and international calls for independent medical evaluations.
* **Protests in Yerevan Over POWs** – Civil society and opposition-led demonstrations demanding stronger government action and international intervention.
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations** – Key sticking points in the negotiations, Azerbaijan’s rejection of European border observers, and implications for regional security.
* **Opposition Infighting** – Internal divisions within Armenia’s opposition, their struggles to unify against the government, and how this affects domestic politics.
Episode 421 | Recorded: March 4, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* **Abkhaz Elections & Regional Implications** – The second round of Abkhazia’s presidential elections, the impact of mass protests, and what Badra Gunba’s victory means for the region.
* **Armenian Hostages in Baku** – Ongoing trials of Armenian POWs and former Artsakh leaders, reports of torture, and international calls for independent medical evaluations.
* **Protests in Yerevan Over POWs** – Civil society and opposition-led demonstrations demanding stronger government action and international intervention.
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations** – Key sticking points in the negotiations, Azerbaijan’s rejection of European border observers, and implications for regional security.
* **Opposition Infighting** – Internal divisions within Armenia’s opposition, their struggles to unify against the government, and how this affects domestic politics.
Episode 421 | Recorded: March 4, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* **Abkhaz Elections & Regional Implications** – The second round of Abkhazia’s presidential elections, the impact of mass protests, and what Badra Gunba’s victory means for the region.
* **Armenian Hostages in Baku** – Ongoing trials of Armenian POWs and former Artsakh leaders, reports of torture, and international calls for independent medical evaluations.
* **Protests in Yerevan Over POWs** – Civil society and opposition-led demonstrations demanding stronger government action and international intervention.
* **Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations** – Key sticking points in the negotiations, Azerbaijan’s rejection of European border observers, and implications for regional security.
* **Opposition Infighting** – Internal divisions within Armenia’s opposition, their struggles to unify against the government, and how this affects domestic politics.
Episode 421 | Recorded: March 4, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the latest developments in Abkhazia’s presidential elections, the ongoing plight of Armenian hostages in Baku, and the protests in Yerevan calling for stronger government action. We also cover the stalled Armenia-Azerbaijan negotiations and deepening divisions within Armenia’s opposition.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Abkhaz Elections &amp; Regional Implications</strong> – The impact of mass protests, Badra Gunba’s victory, and its geopolitical consequences.</li>
<li><strong>Armenian Hostages in Baku</strong> – Reports of torture, Ruben Vardanyan’s hunger strike, and shifting Armenian government rhetoric.</li>
<li><strong>Protests in Yerevan Over POWs</strong> – Civil society-led demonstrations demanding stronger action and international intervention.</li>
<li><strong>Azerbaijan Rejects Armenia’s Proposals</strong> – The stalled peace negotiations and whether Ukraine-Russia diplomacy plays a role.</li>
<li><strong>Opposition Infighting</strong> – Escalating tensions among Armenian opposition factions following Robert Kocharyan’s latest remarks.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ol>
<li>What were the key issues at stake in the Abkhaz elections, and what do the results mean for Russia’s influence?</li>
<li>How significant are the protests in Yerevan? Do they reflect a shift in public sentiment or political calculations?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government changing its approach on Armenian hostages in Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What is the right strategy for securing the release of Armenian POWs?</li>
<li>Why did Azerbaijan reject Armenia’s latest railway corridor proposal? Is the broader geopolitical context playing a role?</li>
<li>What is fueling the growing divisions in the Armenian opposition, and what does it mean for 2026 elections?</li>
</ol>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<h3 id="abkhaz-elections">Abkhaz Elections</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.voanews.com/a/abkhazia-s-acting-leader-wins-presidential-election-state-media-say/7994512.html">VOA: Abkhazia’s Acting Leader Wins Presidential Election</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenian-hostages--yerevan-protests">Armenian Hostages &amp; Yerevan Protests</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://jam-news.net/freedom-for-ruben-vardanyan-and-others-protests-in-armenia/">Jam News: Protests in Armenia for Ruben Vardanyan and POWs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2025/02/28/International-community-call/3120130">Panorama: International Call for Medical Examination of Armenian Hostages</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/mfa-azerbaijan-uses-staged-trial-of-armenians-as-instrument-of-political-pressure-on-armenia/">ARKA: Armenian MFA Condemns Azerbaijani Trials as Political Pressure</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/reports-of-beatings-failing-health-prompt-appeal-for-intervention-in-ruben-vardanyans-case/">Asbarez: Beatings and Failing Health in Baku’s Prisons</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-rejects-armenias-proposal">Azerbaijan Rejects Armenia’s Proposal</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1210864">Armenpress: Azerbaijan Rejects Railway Proposal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jam-news.net/nikol-pashinyans-statements-on-arms-control-not-up-for-discussion-azerbaijani-experts-on-armenian-pms-remarks/">Jam News: Pashinyan’s Statements on Arms Control Rejected by Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/02/27/2174940.html">168.am: Analysis of Stalled Armenia-Azerbaijan Talks</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="opposition-infighting">Opposition Infighting</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/armen.ashotyan/posts/pfbid0Wu7o9W6f7utCKvK3DZb8Jak4bdumgKpkb4zSWSsqB8K1E8YJHM8gbBfbr8qyPHDl">Facebook: Armen Ashotyan on Opposition Divisions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/NdOIQTMHh9g">YouTube: Kocharyan’s Press Conference on Opposition Unity</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="sumgait-pogroms-anniversary">Sumgait Pogroms Anniversary</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/on-sumgait-pogroms-anniversary-armenian-foreign-ministry-calls-for-overcoming-enmity-to-prevent-repe/">ARKA: Armenian MFA Statement on Sumgait &amp; Ethnic Cleansing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/yerevan-said-bakus-state-sponsored-pogroms-continued-to-2023/">Asbarez: State-Sponsored Violence from Sumgait to 2023</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/421/thumbnail-421.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/421/thumbnail-421.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16737132-hrant-mikaelian-abkhazia-polls-armenian-hostages-in-baku-yerevan-protests-ep-421-mar-2-2025.mp3" length="39372598" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3278</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Carden, Shakarian - Trump, Foreign Policy, Foreign Aid, US-Armenia and Regions | Ep 420, Mar 3, 2025
[EP420]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/420-james-carden-pietro-shakarian-us-foreign-policy-trump-cabinet-usaid-reform-us-armenia-geopolitics-intelligence-reform-national-security-ukraine-russia-regime-change/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 00:08:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16729857-carden-shakarian-trump-foreign-policy-foreign-aid-us-armenia-and-regions-ep-420-mar-3-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>420</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Carden, Shakarian - Trump, Foreign Policy, Foreign Aid, US-Armenia and Regions | Ep 420, Mar 3, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - March 3, 2025
        
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#### Topics:
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* Transactional Foreign Policy
* Trump’s Cabinet & Policy Shifts 
* US-Armenia Relations
Episode 420 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 420 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* US Foreign Policy Under Trump
* Transactional Foreign Policy
* Trump’s Cabinet & Policy Shifts 
* US-Armenia Relations
Episode 420 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>US Foreign Policy Under Trump</strong> – The Trump administration&rsquo;s approach to reshaping U.S. foreign policy, including potential reforms or dissolution of USAID and the implications for global NGOs, particularly in Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Transactional Foreign Policy</strong> – Trump&rsquo;s strategic, business-style approach to foreign relations, including proposed deals for Gaza, Ukraine, tariffs, and territorial acquisitions such as Greenland and Panama.</li>
<li><strong>Trump’s Cabinet &amp; Policy Shifts</strong> – Analysis of key figures in Trump’s cabinet, such as Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio, and Pete Hegseth, and their expected influence on defense, intelligence, and foreign policy.</li>
<li><strong>US-Armenia Relations</strong> – Examination of the US-Armenia &ldquo;strategic partnership&rdquo; agreement, its lack of a defense component, and its implications amid regional tensions involving Iran, Israel, and Azerbaijan.</li>
<li><strong>Intelligence and National Security</strong> – The role of intelligence agencies under the Trump administration, potential restructuring, and the balance between national security and government overreach.</li>
<li><strong>US-Russia Relations &amp; the Global Order</strong> – How Trump’s engagement with Russia and critiques of the &ldquo;rules-based international order&rdquo; signal a shift towards a multipolar world.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the future of USAID under Trump, and how does its potential dismantling affect international influence?</li>
<li>How does Trump’s transactional foreign policy impact U.S. global standing and alliances?</li>
<li>What are the strategic implications of Trump’s cabinet picks, particularly concerning intelligence and defense policies?</li>
<li>What does the US-Armenia strategic partnership mean for Armenia’s national security and its positioning in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>How does the U.S.-Russia dynamic evolve under Trump, and what does this mean for global power realignments?</li>
<li>What challenges does Armenia face amid growing regional instability, particularly in relation to Iran, Azerbaijan, and Turkey?</li>
<li>How is the intelligence community being reshaped, and what are the consequences for surveillance, privacy, and national security?</li>
<li>What role does Ukraine play in U.S. strategic calculations, and how does Trump’s approach differ from previous administrations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Groong Podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://groong.substack.com/">Groong Substack</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/420/thumbnail-420.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/420/thumbnail-420.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16729857-carden-shakarian-trump-foreign-policy-foreign-aid-us-armenia-and-regions-ep-420-mar-3-2025.mp3" length="49277884" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4103</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Jean-Daniel Ruch - Geopolitics, Justice and the Future World Order | Ep 419, Mar 1, 2025
[EP419]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/419-crimes-hate-tremors-jean-daniel-ruch-diplomacy-geopolitics-war-justice-armenia-artsakh-switzerland-international-law-osce-minsk-group-nagorno-karabakh-icc-war-crimes-middle-east-ukraine-russia-european-union-turkey-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2025 04:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16715974-jean-daniel-ruch-geopolitics-justice-and-the-future-world-order-ep-419-mar-1-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>419</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Jean-Daniel Ruch - Geopolitics, Justice and the Future World Order | Ep 419, Mar 1, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 03/01/2025
        
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#### Topics:
* Jean-Daniel Ruch’s Career & Background
* The Role of Diplomacy in Conflict Resolution
* Western Democracy Promotion & Geopolitical Power Plays
* The War in Ukraine & Failed Peace Efforts
* US & European Geopolitical Strategies
* The International Criminal Court & Selective Justice
* The Artsakh Conflict & Armenian Displacement

Episode 419 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Jean-Daniel Ruch’s Career & Background
* The Role of Diplomacy in Conflict Resolution
* Western Democracy Promotion & Geopolitical Power Plays
* The War in Ukraine & Failed Peace Efforts
* US & European Geopolitical Strategies
* The International Criminal Court & Selective Justice
* The Artsakh Conflict & Armenian Displacement

Episode 419 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Jean-Daniel Ruch’s Career & Background
* The Role of Diplomacy in Conflict Resolution
* Western Democracy Promotion & Geopolitical Power Plays
* The War in Ukraine & Failed Peace Efforts
* US & European Geopolitical Strategies
* The International Criminal Court & Selective Justice
* The Artsakh Conflict & Armenian Displacement

Episode 419 | Recorded: February 27, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we sit down with <strong>Ambassador Jean-Daniel Ruch</strong>, a former Swiss diplomat and author of <em>Crimes, Hate, and Tremors</em>, to discuss <strong>global power shifts, diplomacy, and international justice</strong>. Our conversation explores the <strong>fallout from his resignation, the impact of US hegemony, Western democracy promotion, and the role of international justice in conflicts like Ukraine and Armenia.</strong></p>
<p>🔹 <strong>What led Ruch to write <em>Crimes, Hate, and Tremors</em>?</strong>
🔹 <strong>What do global shifts mean for smaller nations like Armenia and Switzerland?</strong>
🔹 <strong>How do international courts serve geopolitics rather than justice?</strong>
🔹 <strong>What happened behind the scenes of Ruch’s resignation?</strong></p>
<p>This episode provides an <strong>unfiltered look at diplomacy, power struggles, and the challenges of seeking justice on the world stage</strong>.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<h3 id="jean-daniel-ruchs-career--background"><strong>Jean-Daniel Ruch’s Career &amp; Background</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>His extensive diplomatic career spanning <strong>Turkey, Israel, the Balkans, and Switzerland</strong>.</li>
<li>How his experiences led him to write <em>Crimes, Hate, and Tremors</em> after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.</li>
<li>The circumstances of his <strong>resignation</strong> and what it reveals about surveillance and political pressure in diplomacy.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="diplomacy-great-power-politics--international-influence"><strong>Diplomacy, Great Power Politics &amp; International Influence</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>OSCE and the 1999 Istanbul Summit</strong> – The geopolitical significance of <strong>Clinton’s confrontation with Yeltsin over Chechnya</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>Western Democracy Promotion vs. Regime Change</strong> – The thin line between genuine support and external interference.</li>
<li><strong>US Hegemony in the World</strong> – The shift from <strong>multilateral diplomacy to unilateral interventionism</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-war-in-ukraine--western-hegemony"><strong>The War in Ukraine &amp; Western Hegemony</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>Istanbul peace negotiations</strong> and the role of <strong>Western actors in preventing a settlement</strong>.</li>
<li>Why the <strong>EU and UK have been more aggressive in prolonging the war than the US</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="international-justice--its-double-standards"><strong>International Justice &amp; Its Double Standards</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>How <strong>international courts serve great power interests</strong>, selectively enforcing justice.</li>
<li>The <strong>International Criminal Court (ICC)</strong> and its role in prosecuting war crimes while facing <strong>US sanctions</strong>.</li>
<li>The <strong>Goldstone Report on Israeli war crimes</strong>, Samantha Power’s controversial response, and its broader implications.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-artsakh--the-future-of-the-osce-minsk-group"><strong>Armenia, Artsakh &amp; The Future of the OSCE Minsk Group</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>role of the OSCE Minsk Group before 2018</strong> and the <strong>Western stance on Nagorno-Karabakh’s political status</strong>.</li>
<li>The <strong>ethnic cleansing of Artsakh</strong> and the lack of a strong international response.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="international-justice-for-armenia--artsakh"><strong>International Justice for Armenia &amp; Artsakh</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>What legal options remain</strong> for holding Azerbaijan accountable for war crimes?</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s <strong>demand that Armenia withdraw its international court cases</strong>.</li>
<li>Who can <strong>represent stateless people in international courts</strong> when their governments refuse to act?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What inspired you to write <em>Crimes, Hate, and Tremors</em>?</li>
<li>How does <strong>democracy promotion differ from foreign interference</strong>?</li>
<li>Why did the <strong>Istanbul peace negotiations</strong> on Ukraine fail?</li>
<li>How does Western hegemony influence global conflicts?</li>
<li>Why are some war criminals prosecuted while others evade justice?</li>
<li>What legal options remain for <strong>Armenia and Artsakh</strong> to seek accountability?</li>
<li>What were the <strong>real reasons behind your resignation</strong>?</li>
<li>How should <strong>smaller nations position themselves</strong> in an era of shifting global power?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During the Show</strong></h2>
<p>📖 <em>Crimes, Hate, and Tremors</em> – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Hate-Tremors-pursuit-Justice-ebook/dp/B0D6YNP8L7">Amazon Link</a><br>
🌍 <strong>Report of the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict (Goldstone Report)</strong> – <a href="https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/666096?ln=en&amp;v=pdf">UN Digital Library</a><br>
📄 <strong>Diplomat Magazine Interview with Ruch</strong> – <a href="https://diplomatmagazine.eu/2024/11/03/jean-daniel-ruch-crimes-hate-and-tremors/">Article</a><br>
📌 <strong>Middle East Eye Article on Ruch’s Resignation</strong> – <a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-swiss-diplomat-lost-career-smears-private-life">Article</a><br>
📑 <strong>US Sanctions Against ICC</strong> – <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/">White House Document</a></p>
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<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/419/thumbnail-419.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/419/thumbnail-419.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16715974-jean-daniel-ruch-geopolitics-justice-and-the-future-world-order-ep-419-mar-1-2025.mp3" length="61990258" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>5163</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Ukraine, Edgar Ghazaryan, Robert Kocharyan, Yerevan Bus Fares | Ep 418, Feb 23, 2025
[EP418]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/418-arthur-martirosyan-kocharyan-press-conf-ukraine-negotiations-riyadh-edgar-ghazaryan-bullied-yerevan-bus-fares/</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2025 00:20:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16693300-arthur-martirosyan-ukraine-negotiations-in-riyadh-edgar-ghazaryan-harrassed-by-gov-robert-kocharyan-press-conference-yerevan-bus-fares-ep-418-feb-23-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>418</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Ukraine, Edgar Ghazaryan, Robert Kocharyan, Yerevan Bus Fares | Ep 418, Feb 23, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine Negotiations in Riyadh
* Edgar Ghazayan Bullied by the Government
* Robert Kocharyan Press Conference
* Yerevan Bus Fares
Episode 418 | Recorded: February 24, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Robert Kocharyan Press Conference
* Yerevan Bus Fares
Episode 418 | Recorded: February 24, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Ukraine Negotiations in Riyadh
* Edgar Ghazayan Bullied by the Government
* Robert Kocharyan Press Conference
* Yerevan Bus Fares
Episode 418 | Recorded: February 24, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="-armenian-news-network--groong">🇦🇲 Armenian News Network / Groong</h1>
<h2 id="week-in-review--episode-418"><strong>Week in Review – Episode 418</strong></h2>
<p>📅 <strong>Recorded:</strong> February 24, 2025<br>
🎙 <strong>Hosts:</strong> <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/host/hovik">Hovik Manucharyan</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/host/asbed">Asbed Bedrossian</a><br>
🎙 <strong>Guest:</strong> <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/amartirosyan">Arthur G. Martirosyan</a> (International Conflict Specialist, CM Partners)</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="-main-topics-addressed"><strong>📌 Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Ukraine Negotiations in Riyadh</strong> – The evolving geopolitical situation as Trump engages in direct negotiations with Russia while sidelining Ukraine and Europe.</li>
<li><strong>Edgar Ghazaryan Harassed by the Government</strong> – The Armenian government escalates its crackdown on opposition voices with criminal charges against Ghazaryan, including travel restrictions and speech limitations.</li>
<li><strong>Robert Kocharyan’s Press Conference</strong> – Key takeaways from the former Armenian president’s four-hour press conference, including his stance on Artsakh, negotiations with Azerbaijan, and Russia’s role.</li>
<li><strong>Yerevan Bus Fare Controversy</strong> – Public outcry over radical increases in public transportation fares and how opposition figures are leveraging the discontent.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="-key-questions-discussed"><strong>🔍 Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<h3 id="ukraine-negotiations-in-riyadh"><strong>Ukraine Negotiations in Riyadh</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What accounts for the dramatic change in Trump’s rhetoric towards Ukraine?</li>
<li>What are Trump’s negotiating positions regarding Russia, Ukraine, and Europe?</li>
<li>What are Russia’s red lines in the negotiation process?</li>
<li>Why is the EU hesitant to push for peace?</li>
<li>Can Turkey act as a security guarantor for Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="edgar-ghazaryans-case"><strong>Edgar Ghazaryan’s Case</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Why is the Armenian government cracking down on opposition speech now?</li>
<li>What are the legal and political implications of restricting opposition voices?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="robert-kocharyans-political-strategy"><strong>Robert Kocharyan’s Political Strategy</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Is Kocharyan signaling to Russia that he would reverse Armenia’s current negotiation strategy if he were to return to power?</li>
<li>How does Kocharyan’s stance on the November 2020 agreement contrast with the current Armenian government’s position?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="iran-russia-and-the-zangezur-corridor"><strong>Iran, Russia, and the &ldquo;Zangezur Corridor&rdquo;</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What are the fundamental differences between Iran and Russia regarding the corridor?</li>
<li>Could Kocharyan’s policies align Russia and Iran more closely on this issue?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="yerevan-bus-fare-protests"><strong>Yerevan Bus Fare Protests</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Can the discontent over public transportation costs evolve into a larger anti-government movement?</li>
<li>How is the opposition engaging with these protests?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="-referenced-articles--sources"><strong>🔗 Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/414">Groong Podcast Episode 414</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/24/7499776/">Ukraine Negotiations Coverage – Pravda</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-open-act-security-guarantor-ukraine-peace-agreement">Middle East Eye on Turkey’s Role in Ukraine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/23/israel-wont-allow-syria-military-forces-south-of-damascus-netanyahu">Al Jazeera on Israel’s Position in Syria</a></li>
<li><a href="https://panarmenian.net/eng/news/319660">Armenian Government’s Case Against Ghazaryan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.arlis.am/documentview.aspx?docid=153080">Armenian Legislation Reference (Article 490)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33290645.html">Kocharyan’s Press Conference Highlights</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/02/17/2169322.html">Zangezur Corridor Debate – 168.am</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33317884.html">Yerevan Bus Fare Protests – Azatutyun</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<p>📢 <strong>Listen to the full episode:</strong> <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/418">https://podcasts.groong.org/418</a></p>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Arthur:</strong> A pro-Turkish candidate in the <strong>Abkhazian elections</strong> has emerged, and Turkey is mobilizing its diaspora. The lack of Armenian diplomatic engagement on this issue is concerning, as is Armenia&rsquo;s role in protecting Armenians abroad.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Hovik:</strong> <strong>Edgar Ghazaryan’s</strong> satirical show <strong>&ldquo;Ghazaryan vs. Ghazaryan&rdquo;</strong>,  parodies Armenian Public TV interviews and has gained more views than the original content.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/418/thumbnail-418.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/418/thumbnail-418.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16693300-arthur-martirosyan-ukraine-negotiations-in-riyadh-edgar-ghazaryan-harrassed-by-gov-robert-kocharyan-press-conference-yerevan-bus-fares-ep-418-feb-23-2025.mp3" length="54893070" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4571</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Review of the Armenian Economy in 2024 | Ep 417, Feb 22, 2025
[EP417]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/417-hrant-mikaelian-review-of-the-armenian-economy-in-2024/</link><pubDate>Sat, 22 Feb 2025 00:11:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16672614-hrant-mikaelian-mpg-poll-and-a-review-of-the-armenian-economy-in-2024-ep-417-feb-22-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>417</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Review of the Armenian Economy in 2024 | Ep 417, Feb 22, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 02/22/2024
        
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Episode 417 | Recorded: February 12, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Summary</strong><br>
In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em> (Ep‑417), we discuss the latest MPG Poll results, covering public opinion on Armenia’s direction, key domestic issues, EU accession, and electoral choices, followed by an in‑depth review of the 2024 economy and prospects and risks for 2025.</p>
<p><strong>Topics Covered</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>MPG Poll Results</strong><br>
• Poll Methodology: Telephone survey of 1,100 Armenians (3% sampling error)<br>
• Overall sentiment: Is Armenia moving in the right or wrong direction?<br>
• Top issues facing Armenia today (security, economy, governance)<br>
• Reactions to the January 9 draft law on launching Armenia’s EU accession process<br>
• Beliefs about Armenia joining the EU within the next 10 years<br>
• Views on the strategic partnership between the US and Armenia<br>
• Awareness of new income declaration and tax return requirements by May 1, 2025<br>
• The trial of the Artsakh military-political leadership in Baku and government efforts to secure the return of hostages<br>
• Electoral preferences if parliamentary elections were held next Sunday</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Review of the 2024 Economy</strong><br>
• Economic growth: 8% year-over-year in 2024 (down from 9.8% in 2023)<br>
• Industrial output: Up 4.7%<br>
• Gross agricultural production: Up 1.6%<br>
• Construction: Up 14.5%<br>
• Services (excluding trade): Up 10.6%<br>
• Trade turnover: Up 17%<br>
• Exports: Up 53.1% (driven largely by re‑exports)<br>
• Imports: Up 33.8%<br>
• Foreign trade: Up 41.5%<br>
• Consumer price index (CPI): Up 0.3%<br>
• Average monthly salary growth: Up 6.4%<br>
• Electrical energy production: Up 6.5%<br>
• Significant expansion in consumer and mortgage loans (approximately 31% and 26%)<br>
• Analysis of whether these figures are sustainable or driven by temporary factors (such as sanctions‑related re‑exports)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Looking Ahead to 2025</strong><br>
• Projected economic growth of 5.8–6%<br>
• Sector-by‑sector prospects and risks (construction, industry, agriculture, services, energy, trade)<br>
• Concerns over rising public debt versus improved salary growth<br>
• The broader impact of temporary economic factors on future public sentiment and government revenues</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Armenia generally moving in the right or wrong direction based on current poll results?</li>
<li>What are the most pressing issues facing Armenia today—security, economic challenges, or governance?</li>
<li>How is the public reacting to the draft law aimed at initiating Armenia’s EU accession process?</li>
<li>Can Armenia realistically join the EU within the next 10 years?</li>
<li>What is the public’s response to the strategic partnership between the US and Armenia?</li>
<li>Are citizens prepared for the new income declaration and tax return requirements by May 1, 2025?</li>
<li>Is the government doing enough to address the trial of the Artsakh military-political leadership in Baku?</li>
<li>Which political party or bloc would voters support in a potential parliamentary election?</li>
<li>In reviewing the 2024 economy: Are the positive growth figures sustainable, or are they being driven by temporary factors like re‑exports?</li>
<li>Do rising consumer and mortgage loans indicate healthy investment trends or mounting public debt?</li>
<li>Are increased salaries translating into a tangible improvement in public sentiment?</li>
<li>For 2025, which sectors are poised for growth and which may face a slowdown, and what risks or opportunities lie ahead?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links Referenced During the Show</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://gallup.am">Gallup International Armenia (gallup.am)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1211464">Armenpress Economic Report</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.luys.am/img/artpic/small/734572033d27e593e00004-%D5%8F%D4%B1%D5%91-1-12_31.01.2025.pdf">Luys Foundation Analysis</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="slides-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Slides Referenced During The Show</strong></h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-3.webp" alt="Armenia in Right Direction?"  title="Armenia in Right Direction?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 3: Is Armenia headed in the right direction?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-4.webp" alt="Most Important Issues?"  title="Most Important Issues?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 4: What are the most imporant issues facing Armenia today?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-5-6.webp" alt="Armenia Accession to EU?"  title="Armenia Accession to EU?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slides 5 &amp; 6: On the topic of Armenia&rsquo;s Acession to the EU</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-11.webp" alt="Confused about your taxes?"  title="Confused about your taxes?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 11: Do you know how to fill out and submit your tax forms?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-12.webp" alt="Sham trial in Baku and response to it"  title="Sham trial in Baku and response to it" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 12: Is Armenia doing enough vis-à-vis the sham trials of Artskah leaders in Baku?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/MPG-slide-13.webp" alt="Who would you vote for?"  title="Who would you vote for?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 13: Who would you vote for in Parliamentary elections right now?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/417/slides/Economy-slide.webp" alt="2024 Armenian Economic Indicators"  title="2024 Armenian Economic Indicators" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Economy: 2024 Armenian Economic Indicators</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP416]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/416-dziunik-aghajanian-peace-plan-2019-corridor-talk-armenia-domestic-politics-world-politics/</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16648698-dziunik-aghajanian-peace-plan-2019-corridor-talks-armenia-domestic-politics-world-politics-ep-416-feb-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>416</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Peace Plan 2019, Corridor Talks, Armenia Domestic Politics, World Politics | Ep 416, Feb 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Plan, or No Plan?
* Corridor Talk
* Domestic Politics
Episode 416 | Recorded: February 17, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* Plan, or No Plan?
* Corridor Talk
* Domestic Politics
Episode 416 | Recorded: February 17, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Plan, or No Plan?</strong> - Pashinyan’s acknowledgment of the 2019 OSCE MG peace plan and its implications for Armenia’s geopolitical strategy.</li>
<li><strong>Corridor Talk</strong> - Armenia-Azerbaijan transit negotiations, Azerbaijan&rsquo;s expectations, and Armenia&rsquo;s stance on the corridor.</li>
<li><strong>Domestic Politics</strong> - Robert Kocharyan’s press conference, his political future, and potential opposition movements.</li>
<li><strong>World Politics</strong> - US-Russia relations, shifts in NATO strategies, European reactions, and diplomatic consequences.</li>
<li><strong>Middle East Developments</strong> - Trump’s controversial Gaza proposal, renewed sanctions on Iran, and regional realignments.</li>
<li><strong>Russia-Azerbaijan Relations</strong> - Diplomatic and economic tensions, Moscow’s response to Aliyev’s moves, and possible retaliatory measures.</li>
<li><strong>Economic Pressures</strong> - The impact of regional instability on Armenia&rsquo;s economy, trade relations, and foreign investments.</li>
<li><strong>Global Military Realignments</strong> - Shifts in defense policies, emerging military alliances, and strategic positioning.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<h3 id="plan-or-no-plan"><strong>Plan, or No Plan?</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Why did Pashinyan acknowledge the 2019 peace plan now?</li>
<li>How does the 2019 proposal compare to the current situation for Artsakh Armenians?</li>
<li>Why did Pashinyan refuse to continue negotiations under the OSCE framework?</li>
<li>What political ramifications does this shift bring for Armenia and its regional allies?</li>
<li>How does this impact Armenia&rsquo;s negotiating power?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="corridor-talk"><strong>Corridor Talk</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What does the Armenian government’s contradictory stance on the ‘Zangezur corridor’ suggest?</li>
<li>If Azerbaijan is being granted &ldquo;unhindered transit,&rdquo; why is there no peace treaty yet?</li>
<li>How do international stakeholders view the corridor negotiations?</li>
<li>What are the potential consequences for Armenia’s sovereignty?</li>
<li>Can alternative diplomatic solutions be proposed?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="domestic-politics"><strong>Domestic Politics</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What were the key takeaways from Robert Kocharyan’s press conference?</li>
<li>Is this the start of a political comeback for the former president?</li>
<li>How might Russia and Iran signal their support for Armenian opposition forces?</li>
<li>How has public sentiment shifted in response to Kocharyan’s statements?</li>
<li>What does this mean for upcoming parliamentary elections?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="world-politics"><strong>World Politics</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Is Trump pursuing transactional diplomacy or rethinking US-Russia relations?</li>
<li>Could European NATO allies realistically increase their defense budgets?</li>
<li>Is the EU at a crossroads given the geopolitical shifts?</li>
<li>How does the US, Russia, and China dynamic affect global stability?</li>
<li>What are the long-term security consequences of these developments?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="middle-east"><strong>Middle East</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Will Jordan and Egypt support Trump’s Gaza ‘Riviera’ proposal?</li>
<li>What does the return of &ldquo;maximum pressure&rdquo; on Iran mean for regional stability?</li>
<li>How does Turkey&rsquo;s involvement in Syria influence Middle Eastern politics?</li>
<li>What is the likelihood of renewed conflict escalation in the region?</li>
<li>How does Israel&rsquo;s strategic positioning play into these developments?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russia-azerbaijan-relations"><strong>Russia-Azerbaijan Relations</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Is the worsening Moscow-Baku relationship about the AZAL flight crash, or are there deeper geopolitical factors?</li>
<li>How do Azerbaijan&rsquo;s recent political maneuvers affect its standing with Russia?</li>
<li>Could Russia impose economic sanctions or military deterrents against Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What role does Iran play in shifting Russia-Azerbaijan dynamics?</li>
<li>How could these developments impact Armenia&rsquo;s regional position?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During The Show</strong></h2>
<h3 id="us-russia-relations"><strong>US-Russia Relations:</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/rcxt2-JQMTE?t=2380">Hegseth NATO Speech</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOsgfINdKg">JD Vance at Munich Security Conference</a></li>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113991956474899296">Trump-Putin Truth Social Post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113992264519415084">Trump-Zelensky Truth Social Post</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="middle-east--iran"><strong>Middle East &amp; Iran:</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.outlookbusiness.com/economy-and-policy/trump-ends-sanctions-waivers-on-chabahar-port-ahead-of-pm-modis-us-trip-whats-the-impact-on-india">Trump Ends Sanctions Waivers on Chabahar Port</a></li>
<li><a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/16/world/video/marco-rubio-iran-threat-jerusalem-press-conference-digvid">Marco Rubio on Iran at Jerusalem Press Conference</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia--azerbaijan"><strong>Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan:</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33313937.html">Pashinyan’s 2019 Peace Plan Acknowledgment</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/moscow-cracks-down-on-azerbaijani-migrants-after-rift-with-baku/">Russia Tightens Immigration Controls on Azerbaijanis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.intellinews.com/caucasus-blog-is-it-the-end-of-the-honeymoon-between-azerbaijan-and-russia-363926">End of the Russia-Azerbaijan Honeymoon?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.com/articles/iran-armenia-strategic-alliance">Iran-Armenia Relations Analysis</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="internal-politics"><strong>Internal Politics:</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP1M--C32ZU">Robert Kocharyan’s Press Conference</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.politico.com/armenia-political-landscape-2025">Public Sentiment on Armenian Political Landscape</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/416/thumbnail-416.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/416/thumbnail-416.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16648698-dziunik-aghajanian-peace-plan-2019-corridor-talks-armenia-domestic-politics-world-politics-ep-416-feb-16-2025.mp3" length="51349597" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4276</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Glenn Diesen - The Think Tank Racket: Managing the Information War with Russia | Ep 415, Feb 17, 2025
[EP415]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/415-glenn-diesen-the-think-tank-racket-managing-the-information-war-with-russia/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2025 00:11:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16640532-glenn-diesen-s-book-the-think-tank-racket-managing-the-information-war-with-russia-ep-415-feb-17-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>415</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Glenn Diesen - The Think Tank Racket: Managing the Information War with Russia | Ep 415, Feb 17, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Think Tanks: Defining the Problem
* Media Manipulation, NGOs, and Colored Coups
* Reforming the Think Tank Industry
Episode 415 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Think Tanks: Defining the Problem
* Media Manipulation, NGOs, and Colored Coups
* Reforming the Think Tank Industry
Episode 415 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Think Tanks: Defining the Problem
* Media Manipulation, NGOs, and Colored Coups
* Reforming the Think Tank Industry
Episode 415 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>The role of Western think tanks in shaping foreign policy and public discourse</li>
<li>The revolving door between think tanks, media, and government</li>
<li>USAID and its impact on global political movements</li>
<li>Media manipulation and the role of NGOs in “velvet revolutions”</li>
<li>Censorship and the information war on social media</li>
<li>Reforming the think tank industry and ensuring transparency</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What motivated Glenn Diesen to write <em>The Think Tank Racket</em>?</li>
<li>How do think tanks influence policy-making and public opinion?</li>
<li>Who funds think tanks, and what are their objectives?</li>
<li>How do government-supported NGOs shape media narratives?</li>
<li>What role did USAID play in the Euromaidan and other regime changes?</li>
<li>How do think tanks use social media giants to manage disinformation?</li>
<li>What reforms are needed to address the think tank industry&rsquo;s influence?</li>
<li>How can small countries like Armenia resist external influence?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources"><strong>Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Relevant News &amp; Commentary</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://evnreport.com/politics/u-s-ambassador-mills-i-leave-inspired-and-hopeful/">EVN Report interview with US Ambassador Richard Mills on 2018 Armenian “Velvet Revolution”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1887488730224595254">Robert Kennedy Jr. on USAID funding the Euromaidan regime change in Ukraine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1886674473501311144">Glenn Diesen on Twitter: USAID, NGOs, and foreign influence</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1887488730224595254">Glenn Diesen on Twitter: Role of NGOs in information warfare</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Further Reading</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Think-Tank-Racket-Managing-Information/dp/1949762807">Amazon link to <em>The Think Tank Racket</em></a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/415/thumbnail-415.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/415/thumbnail-415.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16640532-glenn-diesen-s-book-the-think-tank-racket-managing-the-information-war-with-russia-ep-415-feb-17-2025.mp3" length="34467357" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2869</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Fyodor Lukyanov - Russia, the US, Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, and the New Global Order | Ep 414, Feb. 16, 2025
[EP414]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/414-fyodor-lukyanov-russia-us-geopolitics-ukraine-war-armenia-policy-brics-nato-multipolarity-eurasia-global-order/</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 00:11:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16632687-fyodor-lukyanov-russia-the-us-ukraine-armenia-georgian-and-the-new-global-order-ep-414-feb-16-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>414</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Fyodor Lukyanov - Russia, the US, Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, and the New Global Order | Ep 414, Feb. 16, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* The Trump-Putin Call
* Russia’s Strategic Choices
* Russo-Armenian Relations
* Russo-Azerbaijani Relations
* Georgia’s Pragmatism
Episode 414 | Recorded: Valentine’s Day, February 14, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* The Trump-Putin Call
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Episode 414 | Recorded: Valentine’s Day, February 14, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* Russo-Armenian Relations
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* Georgia’s Pragmatism
Episode 414 | Recorded: Valentine’s Day, February 14, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>A New Détente? Russia-US relations and evolving global dynamics</strong><br>
Do the recent shifts in US foreign policy, particularly under the Trump administration, indicate a move toward a new détente between Washington and Moscow? Lukyanov analyzed the broader geopolitical landscape, including US domestic politics, NATO’s role, and how different power centers perceive the idea of global stability.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Trump-Putin Call and its implications for Ukraine</strong><br>
During the highly anticipated Trump-Putin phone call key US policy positions on Ukraine were subtly adjusted. Trump’s remarks on Ukraine’s NATO prospects, the feasibility of a negotiated settlement, and whether Russia perceives this as a sincere effort toward peace or merely a political maneuver. Also,  the possibility of sanctions relief and the role of European actors in any future negotiations.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Russia’s Strategic Choices: BRICS, G8, and multipolarity</strong><br>
Russia’s strategic positioning in the global order. Trump has reportedly suggested that Russia should abandon BRICS and return to the G8, raising questions about Moscow’s long-term vision. Why Russia has moved toward a multipolar world vision and why it sees BRICS as a necessary vehicle for reducing Western financial influence, particularly in de-dollarization efforts.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Russo-Armenian Relations and Armenia’s geopolitical shift</strong>
The deteriorating relationship between Armenia and Russia under Nikol Pashinyan’s leadership. Discussion included Armenia’s push toward European integration, its potential exit from the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), and how Moscow perceives these developments. Is  Armenia’s geopolitical realignment sustainable, and how Russia might respond to the changing dynamics in the South Caucasus?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Zangezur Corridor and Azerbaijan’s regional ambitions</strong>
One of the most pressing regional security concerns is Azerbaijan’s claim over Syunik, framed as the &ldquo;Zangezur Corridor.&rdquo; The discussion covered Baku’s military posturing, Turkey’s strategic backing, and Iran’s strong opposition, which it labels as “NATO’s Turan Corridor.” Lukyanov analyzed Russia’s position on the issue, whether Moscow views Syunik as a red line, and how this dispute fits into broader regional power struggles.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Georgia’s Pragmatism and its impact on Russia’s strategy</strong><br>
Georgia has adopted a notably pragmatic approach toward Russia, avoiding direct confrontation while resisting Western pressure. How does this contrast with with Armenia’s approach? What lessons should Yerevan take from Tbilisi’s strategy? And how does Russia view the possibility of renewed ties with Georgia? Lukyanov also provided thoughts on Georgia’s economic and security calculus in the region.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>Is Trump serious about ending the war in Ukraine, or is it just political maneuvering?</li>
<li>What are Russia’s red lines in any peace settlement?</li>
<li>Can the US and Russia reach a new détente?</li>
<li>Will Russia abandon BRICS and rejoin the G8?</li>
<li>How does Moscow view Pashinyan’s EU aspirations?</li>
<li>What is Russia’s position on Azerbaijan’s ambitions over Syunik and the “Zangezur Corridor”?</li>
<li>How does Georgia’s pragmatic approach shape its relations with Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113991956474899296">Trump’s Truth Social Post on Meeting with Putin</a></li>
<li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113992264519415084">Trump’s Truth Social Post on Meeting with Zelensky</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/new-world-order-lukyanov/">Why Global Powers Can’t Agree on a New World Order</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/un-charter-lavrov/">UN Charter and Global Stability</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-foreign-minister-europe-needs-be-involved-ukraine-talks-2025-02-13/">German FM on EU’s Role in Ukraine Talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukraine-trump-putin-russia-peace-talks-b2697436.html">Trump, Putin, and Ukraine Peace Talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.scfr.ir/en/300/30101/146069/conspiracy-of-creating-nato-turani-corridor-with-geopolitical-consequences-against-iran-russia-and-china/">Iran’s View on the &ldquo;NATO-Turan Corridor&rdquo;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-warns-brics-nations-could-face-100-tariffs-2025-02-13/">Trump Warns BRICS Nations of 100% Tariffs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/zangezur-corridor/">The Zangezur Corridor and Its Geopolitical Impact</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP413]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/413-anna-karapetyan-pashinyan-in-dc-trump-sanctions-icc-azerbaijan-diplomacy-worker-strike-at-mining-company/</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:10:36 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16619155-anna-karapetyan-pashinyan-in-dc-trump-sanctions-icc-azerbaijani-diplomacy-workers-strike-at-zcmc-ep-413-feb-9-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in DC
* Trump Sanctions the ICC
* Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action
* Workers Strike at Zangezur Mining Co.
Episode 413 | Recorded: February 11, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in DC
* Trump Sanctions the ICC
* Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action
* Workers Strike at Zangezur Mining Co.
Episode 413 | Recorded: February 11, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Pashinyan in DC
* Trump Sanctions the ICC
* Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action
* Workers Strike at Zangezur Mining Co.
Episode 413 | Recorded: February 11, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="main-topics-addressed"><strong>Main Topics Addressed</strong></h2>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-dc"><strong>Pashinyan in DC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s trip to Washington was more about securing a photo op with U.S. officials than achieving concrete outcomes.</li>
<li>His speech at the Atlantic Council and the meeting with Armenian-Americans in Washington.</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s new discourse about Armenia&rsquo;s future development and relations with the diaspora.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trump-sanctions-the-icc"><strong>Trump Sanctions the ICC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Trump sanctioned the International Criminal Court (ICC), which Armenia had joined in the hopes of prosecuting Aliyev.</li>
<li>Armenia’s willingness to withdraw criminal cases against Azerbaijan upon a peace agreement.</li>
<li>Luis Moreno Ocampo&rsquo;s backlash on Armenia&rsquo;s stance regarding ICC investigations into crimes against Armenians.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijani-diplomacy-in-action"><strong>Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Hikmet Hajiyev’s visit to Tehran, with the focus on the Zangezur Corridor and Iran’s opposition to it.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan expelling Russia&rsquo;s <em>Rossotrudnichestvo</em> and escalating tensions with Russia.</li>
<li>Armenia’s role in navigating tensions between Azerbaijan, Iran, and Russia.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="workers-strike-at-the-zcmc"><strong>Workers Strike at the ZCMC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Workers at Zangezur Copper and Molybdenum Compound (ZCMC) went on strike, and the government took a passive stance.</li>
<li>The geopolitical context of ZCMC’s ownership and its role in Armenia’s economy.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-dc-1"><strong>Pashinyan in DC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>What was the real purpose behind Pashinyan’s trip? Was it about securing a high-level meeting with U.S. officials, or just for optics?</li>
<li>Why was the photo-op with J.D. Vance so important for Pashinyan’s government?</li>
<li>What does Pashinyan mean by a “balanced and balancing” foreign policy? Is it a departure from previous foreign policy strategies?</li>
<li>Did Pashinyan’s government make any significant progress with Turkey and Azerbaijan during his visit?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trump-sanctions-the-icc-1"><strong>Trump Sanctions the ICC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Why did Armenia join the ICC if it knew it would eventually withdraw its cases against Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Was Armenia’s membership to the ICC more about political leverage than legal action?</li>
<li>Can Armenia stop ICC investigations into crimes against Armenians, and what are the long-term consequences of withdrawing cases?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijani-diplomacy-in-action-1"><strong>Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan so insistent on the Zangezur Corridor, despite Iran’s strong opposition?</li>
<li>How can Armenia balance its relations with Azerbaijan, Iran, and Russia given the geopolitical context?</li>
<li>What does Azerbaijan&rsquo;s expulsion of Russia&rsquo;s cultural center and its tightened visa restrictions signify for regional diplomacy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="workers-strike-at-the-zcmc-1"><strong>Workers Strike at the ZCMC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Why has the Armenian government taken such a passive stance towards the workers’ strike? Could there be a political motive?</li>
<li>What does the ZCMC strike mean for Armenia’s economy, especially with its large tax revenue contribution?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During the Show</strong></h2>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-dc-2"><strong>Pashinyan in DC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/156254">Pashinyan’s Visit &amp; IRF Summit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/HovikYerevan/status/1887542072841757012">Agenda Change Reference</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cftjustice.org/warrior-of-the-month-sharmagh-mardi/">Sharmagh Mardi</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trump-sanctions-the-icc-2"><strong>Trump Sanctions the ICC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2p19l24g2o">Trump Sanctions ICC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/international-criminal-court-welcomes-armenia-new-state-party">ICC Welcomes Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.armradio.am/2025/02/06/armenia-cannot-stop-investigation-of-crimes-against-armenians-at-icc-ocampo/">Luis Moreno Ocampo on ICC Cases</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijani-diplomacy-in-action-2"><strong>Azerbaijani Diplomacy in Action</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/so-called-zangezur-corridor-is-detrimental-for-both-iran-and-armenia-tehran-says/">Iran’s Opposition to Zangezur Corridor</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33302830.html">Azerbaijan Expels Russian Cultural Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33301672.html">Azerbaijan Tightens Visa Restrictions for Russians</a></li>
<li><a href="https://news.am/eng/news/865090.html">Tensions Between Russia &amp; Azerbaijan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33305534.html">Aliyev’s Latest Moves</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="workers-strike-at-the-zcmc-2"><strong>Workers Strike at the ZCMC</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33307193.html">Worker Strike at ZCMC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33305534.html">ZCMC Worker Dismissals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33301672.html">Government&rsquo;s Response to Strike</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenian-hostages-and-pows"><strong>Armenian Hostages and POWs</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2025/02/07/2164882.html">Catholicos Aram I’s Letter to Trump on POWs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.armenpress.am/en/article/1211516.html">Armenian Diplomatic Efforts on POWs</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h2>
<h3 id="hovik"><strong>Hovik</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>Gratitude for Catholicos Aram I’s leadership and letter to Trump urging immediate action on Armenian POWs.</li>
<li>The hypocrisy of diaspora Armenians attending Pashinyan’s meetings while he denies genocide and criticizes diaspora institutions.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="anna"><strong>Anna</strong></h3>
<ul>
<li>The lack of real national resistance to Pashinyan’s policies, including his rhetoric on Armenia’s identity and genocide denial.</li>
<li>The increasing acceptance of Pashinyan&rsquo;s agenda within Armenian society despite its contradictions with Armenian history.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/413/thumbnail-413.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/413/thumbnail-413.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16619155-anna-karapetyan-pashinyan-in-dc-trump-sanctions-icc-azerbaijani-diplomacy-workers-strike-at-zcmc-ep-413-feb-9-2025.mp3" length="38445430" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3201</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Archil Sikharulidze - The Estrangement of Georgia and the West | Ep 412, Feb 10, 2025
[EP412]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/412-archil-sikharulidze-the-estrangement-of-georgia-and-the-west/</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 01:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16597373-archil-sikharulidze-the-estrangement-of-georgia-and-the-west-ep-412-feb-10-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>412</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Archil Sikharulidze - The Estrangement of Georgia and the West | Ep 412, Feb 10, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Georgia and the EU
* Georgia and the South Caucasus
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* Georgia and the EU
* Georgia and the South Caucasus
Episode 412 | Recorded: February 9, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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* Georgia and the EU
* Georgia and the South Caucasus
Episode 412 | Recorded: February 9, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-estrangement-of-georgia-and-the-west">The Estrangement of Georgia and the West</h1>
<h2 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>The Impact of USAID’s Shutdown</strong> – The implications of USAID’s temporary funding freeze and its effect on NGOs, media, and political processes in Georgia.</li>
<li><strong>Georgia and the EU</strong> – The deepening rift between Georgia and the European Union, including Georgia’s decision to freeze its EU membership drive and recall representatives from PACE.</li>
<li><strong>Georgia and the South Caucasus</strong> – Georgia’s role in regional diplomacy, including its offer to mediate Armenia-Azerbaijan peace talks and its trilateral cooperation initiative with Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<h3 id="the-impact-of-usaids-shutdown">The Impact of USAID’s Shutdown</h3>
<ul>
<li>What was USAID’s financial role in Georgia, and what effects will its funding freeze have on NGOs and media?</li>
<li>How did USAID’s $40M election support compare to past controversies, such as RussiaGate in the U.S.?</li>
<li>What is the current state of NGOs in Georgia after the elections and the adoption of the “Transparency of Foreign Influence” law?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="georgia-and-the-eu">Georgia and the EU</h3>
<ul>
<li>What are the primary reasons behind Georgia’s estrangement from the EU?</li>
<li>With Georgia-West relations worsening, is there a corresponding improvement in Georgia-Russia relations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="georgia-and-the-south-caucasus">Georgia and the South Caucasus</h3>
<ul>
<li>What is Georgia’s rationale for proposing peace facilitation between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What are the details of Georgia’s trilateral cooperation proposal with Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>How does Georgia’s fallout with the EU affect Armenia’s EU aspirations?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="referenced-articles--sources">Referenced Articles &amp; Sources</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>USAID Funding &amp; Media Impact</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://imi.org.ua/en/monitorings/59-2-of-journalists-predict-us-international-grant-suspension-to-have-catastrophic-impact-imi-survey-i66439">59.2% of journalists predict US international grant suspension to have catastrophic impact – IMI Survey</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Georgian Political Landscape &amp; Protests</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/shpapuashvili/status/1886660527209742561">Georgian Dream Freezes EU Membership Drive &amp; Recalls Representatives from PACE</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-dream-tbilisi-protest-zurabishvili-kavelashvili-russia/33256175.html">Protests in Tbilisi Against Georgian Dream’s Policies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mccaininstitute.org/resources/press-releases/georgian-president-salome-zourabichvili-named-mccain-institute-kissinger-fellow/">Salome Zourabichvili Named McCain Institute Kissinger Fellow</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Regional Developments &amp; Georgia’s Mediation Role</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/region/56738">Georgian Prime Minister’s Visit to Yerevan &amp; South Caucasus Diplomatic Efforts</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
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[EP411]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/411-glenn-diesen-arman-grigoryan-the-incoming-multipolar-world-ukraine-syria-gaza-nato-brics/</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 00:03:30 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16593131-glenn-diesen-arman-grigoryan-the-incoming-multipolar-world-ep-411-feb-9-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>411</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Glenn Diesen &amp; Arman Grigoryan - The Incoming Multipolar World | Ep 411, Feb 9, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* The Ongoing conflicts: Gaza, Syria, Ukraine
* Shifting Global Power and Alliances
* Small Countries in a Multipolar World
Episode 411 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Shifting Global Power and Alliances
* Small Countries in a Multipolar World
Episode 411 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* The Ongoing conflicts: Gaza, Syria, Ukraine
* Shifting Global Power and Alliances
* Small Countries in a Multipolar World
Episode 411 | Recorded: February 6, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-incoming-multipolar-world-and-where-we-stand-today">The Incoming Multipolar World and Where We Stand Today</h1>
<h2 id="the-ongoing-conflicts-gaza-syria-ukraine">The Ongoing conflicts: Gaza, Syria, Ukraine</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>Gaza: Trump’s Shocking Statements on Ethnic Cleansing</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s proposal to “take over” and redevelop Gaza as the “Riviera of the Middle East”</li>
<li>The UN condemns the plan as illegal and warns of ethnic cleansing</li>
<li>Regional implications: Would Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and others accept it?</li>
<li>Does this align with Trump’s “America First” strategy?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Syria: Turkey’s Strategic Moves</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Former wanted terrorist Ahmed al-Sharaa (Abu Mohammad al-Julani) now rules Syria</li>
<li>Turkey signs military alliance with Syria and establishes military bases</li>
<li>Has Turkey successfully consolidated its control, or is it overextending?</li>
<li>Potential consequences for Turkey’s broader regional ambitions, including the South Caucasus</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Ukraine: The War’s Endgame and Global Repercussions</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Trump’s promise to end the war quickly—how realistic is it?</li>
<li>Mixed signals: threats of new sanctions on Russia vs. demand that Ukraine provide rare earth resources as collateral</li>
<li>UK’s unprecedented 100-year strategic deal with Ukraine, including military cooperation</li>
<li>Why is this war seen as the defining moment for a transition to a new world order?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="shifting-global-power-and-alliances">Shifting Global Power and Alliances</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>The West&rsquo;s Declining Influence &amp; The Rise of Multipolarity</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Marco Rubio’s statement: “It’s not normal for the world to simply have a unipolar power.”</li>
<li>The shift away from the US acting as the world’s sole &ldquo;police officer&rdquo;</li>
<li>The significance of Ukraine as the catalyst for a new global order</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>China and Russia: A Strengthening Strategic Relationship</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>NATO’s post-Cold War expansion—did it push Russia toward China?</li>
<li>Could the US have prevented this alliance by integrating Russia earlier?</li>
<li>What does the China-Russia alliance mean for the future of global power?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Multipolarity and Emerging Alliances</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>NATO as a military bloc vs. BRICS as an economic federation—two different models</li>
<li>How BRICS is reshaping global financial systems and reducing reliance on the dollar</li>
<li>Could NATO members (like Turkey) also become BRICS members, and what does that mean geopolitically?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Future of NATO in a Multipolar World</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>If military power is no longer the primary determinant of global influence, how must NATO evolve?</li>
<li>As the US reduces its international military commitments, will European states step up?</li>
<li>Are NATO’s member states truly aligned, or are internal fractures emerging?</li>
<li>How will shifting alliances affect NATO’s relevance in the coming decades?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="small-countries-in-a-multipolar-world">Small Countries in a Multipolar World</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>The Role of Middle Powers &amp; Small States</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In a world divided between competing economic and military blocs, where do middle powers (Turkey, Iran, Indonesia, Brazil, etc.) fit?</li>
<li>What role do smaller nations like Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Lebanon play?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Survival Strategies for Small Countries in a Shifting Global Order</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can small states maintain strategic neutrality in a world where major powers are reconfiguring alliances?</li>
<li>The importance of balancing relationships with the West, Russia, and China</li>
<li>The risks of being drawn into great power conflicts</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Neutrality as a Strategy?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Dr. Pascal Lottaz&rsquo;s perspective: Is neutrality the best path for smaller nations?</li>
<li>Can a country like Armenia realistically remain neutral, or is it inevitably forced to align with one side?</li>
<li>Historical examples of successful neutral states—can Armenia follow a similar model?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<h3 id="shifting-global-power-and-alliances-1">Shifting Global Power and Alliances</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p><strong>China &amp; Russia: A New Axis or Marriage of Convenience?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Has NATO’s post-Cold War expansion pushed Russia and China closer together?</li>
<li>If the US had integrated Russia into Western institutions earlier, would today’s multipolarity look different?</li>
<li>How solid is the China-Russia relationship, and could it evolve into its own geopolitical “pole”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Rise of BRICS and the Future of Global Alliances</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does BRICS challenge Western financial dominance?</li>
<li>Could BRICS replace the US-led global economic system?</li>
<li>Turkey’s ambiguous position: Can a NATO member also join BRICS?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>The Future of NATO in a Multipolar World</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>As BRICS expands, can NATO maintain its role as a dominant military alliance?</li>
<li>Could regional powers realign, shifting the global balance?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="small-countries-in-a-multipolar-world-1">Small Countries in a Multipolar World</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Survival Strategies for Smaller Nations</strong>
<ul>
<li>How can small countries like Armenia avoid being caught between major geopolitical forces?</li>
<li>Will they face increasing pressure to pick sides, and what would the new global divisions look like?</li>
<li>Can true neutrality be an option, or is alignment inevitable?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During the Show</h2>
<ol>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/trump-says-us-will-take-over-and-own-gaza-in-redevelopment-plan">Al Jazeera: Trump Says the US Will &ldquo;Take Over&rdquo; Gaza</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/strictly-prohibited-un-officials-denounce-trumps-gaza-plan-as-unlawful">Al Jazeera: UN Officials Denounce Trump’s Gaza Plan as Unlawful</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-840712">The Jerusalem Post: International Reactions to Gaza Proposals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/marco-rubio/">Marco Rubio on the End of Unipolarity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1887488730224595254">Glenn Diesen’s Tweet on Human Rights NGOs &amp; War Propaganda</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1886674473501311144">Glenn Diesen’s Tweet on USAID and Foreign Influence</a></li>
<li><a href="https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article-abstract/44/4/158/12246/Selective-Wilsonianism-Material-Interests-and-the?redirectedFrom=fulltext">Arman Grigoryan’s Paper: <em>Selective Wilsonianism – Material Interests &amp; Democracy</em></a></li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/411/thumbnail-411.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/411/thumbnail-411.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16593131-glenn-diesen-arman-grigoryan-the-incoming-multipolar-world-ep-411-feb-9-2025.mp3" length="62318540" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>5189</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - MPG Poll, Russia-Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorate, Armenian Strategic Geopolitical Balancing, Azerbaijan and the ‘Zangezur Corridor’ | Ep 410, Feb 2, 2025
[EP410]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/410-benyamin-poghosyan-mpg-poll-russia-azerbaijan-relations-deteriorating-armenia-strategic-geopolitical-balancing-zangezur-corridor/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16559931-mpg-poll-russia-azerbaijan-relations-deteriorate-armenian-strategic-geopolitical-balancing-azerbaijan-and-the-zangezur-corridor.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>410</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - MPG Poll, Russia-Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorate, Armenian Strategic Geopolitical Balancing, Azerbaijan and the ‘Zangezur Corridor’ | Ep 410, Feb 2, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* MPG Poll: Pashinyan’s Rating Tanks
* Russia Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorating
* Armenia’s Strategic Geopolitical Balancing
* Azerbaijan and the “Zangezur Corridor”
Episode 410 | Recorded: February 3, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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* Russia Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorating
* Armenia’s Strategic Geopolitical Balancing
* Azerbaijan and the “Zangezur Corridor”
Episode 410 | Recorded: February 3, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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* MPG Poll: Pashinyan’s Rating Tanks
* Russia Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorating
* Armenia’s Strategic Geopolitical Balancing
* Azerbaijan and the “Zangezur Corridor”
Episode 410 | Recorded: February 3, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>Groong Week in Review</strong>, we speak with <strong>Benyamin Poghosyan</strong> about the latest <strong>MPG poll</strong>, which shows a significant drop in <strong>Pashinyan’s approval ratings</strong> and highlights key concerns among Armenians, such as <strong>security, border issues, and economic instability</strong>. We also examine the <strong>growing tensions between Russia and Azerbaijan</strong>, Aliyev’s increasingly <strong>anti-Russian rhetoric</strong>, and the possible <strong>geopolitical consequences</strong>. The discussion extends to <strong>Armenia’s strategic geopolitical balancing</strong>, Russia’s warnings regarding Armenia’s <strong>EU aspirations</strong>, and whether Armenia can <strong>leverage its position in the North-South trade corridor</strong>. Finally, we assess <strong>Azerbaijan’s push for a &lsquo;Zangezur Corridor&rsquo;</strong>, Armenia’s <strong>counterproposals</strong>, and the potential for <strong>military escalation</strong> in the region.</p>
<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>MPG Poll: Pashinyan’s Rating Tanks</strong> – A detailed discussion on the latest <strong>MPG poll</strong> revealing a significant decline in <strong>Pashinyan’s approval ratings</strong> and Civil Contract’s <strong>political standing</strong>. The poll also highlights key public concerns, including <strong>security, border issues, and economic struggles</strong>. <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1210961">(MPG Poll Report)</a></li>
<li><strong>Russia-Azerbaijan Relations Deteriorating</strong> – Analysis of worsening diplomatic ties following the <strong>Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash</strong>, Aliyev’s <strong>historical accusations</strong> against Russia, and <strong>growing anti-Russian rhetoric</strong> in Azerbaijani media. <a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/02/01/why-aliyev-accused-tsarist-russia-of-resettling-armenians-in-azerbaijan-opinion">(Aliyev’s Accusations Against Russia)</a> <a href="https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-plane-crash-azerbaijan-a5b0ffa3e410df53556b0cd824f32a6f">(Russia House Espionage Allegations)</a></li>
<li><strong>Armenia’s Strategic Geopolitical Balancing</strong> – A discussion on Armenia’s <strong>delicate positioning</strong> between shifting global alliances, including the <strong>impact of EU and US relations</strong>, as well as <strong>Russian warnings</strong> about economic consequences. <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33298809.html">(Russia Warns of Armenia’s ‘Total Impoverishment’ if it Leaves EEU)</a></li>
<li><strong>Azerbaijan and the “Zangezur Corridor”</strong> – Examination of Aliyev’s ongoing <strong>demands for an extraterritorial corridor through Armenia</strong>, Armenia’s <strong>counterproposals</strong>, and the potential for <strong>military escalation</strong>. <a href="https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/2025-annual-geopolitical-forecast">(Stratfor Report: Possible Regional Escalations)</a> <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1208827">(Pashinyan’s January 31st Press Conference on Transit &amp; Corridor Proposals)</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What do the <strong>MPG poll results</strong> indicate about Pashinyan’s ability to govern until the <strong>2026 elections</strong>?</li>
<li>What is driving <strong>Aliyev’s anti-Russian stance</strong>, and how might this affect the region?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s <strong>“balancing” strategy</strong> effective in maintaining stability amidst <strong>external pressures</strong>?</li>
<li>How viable is Azerbaijan’s <strong>demand for a “Zangezur Corridor”</strong>, and what are Armenia’s <strong>strategic alternatives</strong>?</li>
<li>Could Armenia <strong>leverage the North-South trade corridor</strong> to improve its geopolitical position?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> <em>&ldquo;70-year-old Artsakh refugee Gharib Babayan video exposes Azeris in central Yerevan celebrating destruction of Artsakh, and gets arrested for &lsquo;inciting ethnic hatred.&rsquo; Armenia is an occupied country.&rdquo;</em></li>
<li><strong>Benyamin:</strong> <em>&ldquo;Changes in the US precipitating transformation of the post-unipolar world.&rdquo;</em></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During The Show</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1210961">MPG Poll Results &amp; Analysis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/02/01/why-aliyev-accused-tsarist-russia-of-resettling-armenians-in-azerbaijan-opinion">Aliyev’s Accusations Against Russia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-plane-crash-azerbaijan-a5b0ffa3e410df53556b0cd824f32a6f">Russia House Espionage Allegations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33298809.html">Russia Warns of Armenia’s ‘Total Impoverishment’ if it Leaves EEU</a></li>
<li><a href="https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/2025-annual-geopolitical-forecast">Stratfor Report: Possible Regional Escalations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1208827">Pashinyan’s January 31st Press Conference on Transit &amp; Corridor Proposals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/109513/">Russia-Iran-Azerbaijan Transit Agreements</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="slides-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Slides Referenced During The Show</strong></h2>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/410/MPG-Chipolino-slide-3.webp" alt="Armenia in Right Direction?"  title="Armenia in Right Direction?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 3: Is Armenia headed in the right direction?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/410/MPG-Chipolino-slide-4.webp" alt="Armenia Greatest Challenges"  title="Armenia Greatest Challenges" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 4: What are the greatest challenges facing Armenia?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/410/MPG-Chipolino-slide-5.webp" alt="Impression on Joining the EU"  title="Impression on Joining the EU" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 5: What&rsquo;s your view on the law to seek EU membership?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/410/MPG-Chipolino-slide-13.webp" alt="Who would you vote for?"  title="Who would you vote for?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 13: If voting were this Sunday, who&rsquo;d you vote for?&rsquo;</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/410/thumbnail-410.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/410/thumbnail-410.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16559931-mpg-poll-russia-azerbaijan-relations-deteriorate-armenian-strategic-geopolitical-balancing-azerbaijan-and-the-zangezur-corridor.mp3" length="47129403" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3924</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Harut Sassounian - Billionaire Kirk Kerkorian’s Benevolent Engagement with Armenia | Ep 409, Feb 2, 2025
[EP409]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/409-harut-sassounian-kirk-kerkorians-benevolent-engagement-with-armenia/</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 11:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16546430-harut-sassounian-billionaire-kirk-kerkorian-s-benevolent-engagement-with-armenia-ep-409-february-2-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>409</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Harut Sassounian - Billionaire Kirk Kerkorian’s Benevolent Engagement with Armenia | Ep 409, Feb 2, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Who was Kirk Kerkorian?
* How Kerkorian Discovered Armenia
* Investing in Armenia
* End of Investments and Death of Kerkorian
Episode 409 | Recorded: January 21, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Who was Kirk Kerkorian?
* How Kerkorian Discovered Armenia
* Investing in Armenia
* End of Investments and Death of Kerkorian
Episode 409 | Recorded: January 21, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Who was Kirk Kerkorian?
* How Kerkorian Discovered Armenia
* Investing in Armenia
* End of Investments and Death of Kerkorian
Episode 409 | Recorded: January 21, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kirk Kerkorian’s Benevolent Engagement with Armenia</strong></p>
<p>Kirk Kerkorian, the Armenian-American billionaire, was one of the greatest benefactors of Armenia, contributing <strong>hundreds of millions of dollars</strong> to infrastructure and humanitarian projects. In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, we speak with <strong>Harut Sassounian</strong>, publisher of <em>The California Courier</em> and <strong>former Vice Chairman of the Lincy Foundation</strong>, to uncover <strong>why Kerkorian chose to invest in Armenia</strong>, the impact of his donations, and the <strong>real reasons</strong> why he ultimately stopped funding projects. We also address the <strong>rumors of corruption</strong> and explore <strong>how Kerkorian is remembered today</strong>.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<h3 id="who-was-kirk-kerkorian">Who Was Kirk Kerkorian?</h3>
<ul>
<li>What shaped Kerkorian’s identity as a <strong>businessman and philanthropist</strong>?</li>
<li>How did his <strong>Armenian heritage</strong> influence his worldview?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="how-he-discovered-armenia">How He Discovered Armenia</h3>
<ul>
<li>What drove Kerkorian to get involved in Armenia?</li>
<li>What role did the <strong>1988 earthquake</strong> play in shaping his philanthropy?</li>
<li>How did the <strong>US government react</strong> to his donations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="more-details-about-his-armenia-investments">More Details About His Armenia Investments</h3>
<ul>
<li>What <strong>projects did Kerkorian fund in Gyumri</strong>, and how did they impact the city?</li>
<li>What were his <strong>largest contributions in Armenia</strong>?</li>
<li>Why did his <strong>investments diminish during Serzh Sargsyan’s tenure</strong>?</li>
<li>What was his perspective on <strong>corruption</strong>, and how were his donations protected?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="end-of-investments-and-death-of-kerkorian">End of Investments and Death of Kerkorian</h3>
<ul>
<li>Why did Kerkorian contribute so little during <strong>Serzh Sargsyan’s presidency</strong>?</li>
<li>What were the <strong>rumors of corruption</strong>, and who was spreading them?</li>
<li>What was in Kerkorian’s <strong>will</strong>, and why didn’t it explicitly mention Armenia?</li>
<li>How is Kerkorian remembered today?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gambler-Penniless-Kerkorian-Greatest-Capitalist/dp/0062456776"><em>The Gambler</em> – Kirk Kerkorian’s Biography by William Rempel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.168.am/2016/03/02/3138.html">Harut Sassounian’s 2016 Interview Dispelling Corruption Rumors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/">California Courier Articles on Kerkorian’s Philanthropy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/President_Robert_Kocharyan%27s_press_conference_on_the_occasion_of_national_philanthropist_Kirk_Kerkorian%27s_visit_to_Armenia">President Robert Kocharyan’s 1998 Press Conference on Kerkorian’s Visit to Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/united-armenian-fund-ends-humanitarian-shipments-to-armenia/">United Armenian Fund Ends Humanitarian Shipments to Armenia (Dec 2015)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/kerkorians-will-designates-all-his-wealth-to-charity/">Kirk Kerkorian’s Will Designates All His Wealth to Charity (Jan 2016)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/new-biography-portrays-kirk-kerkorian-not-trump-as-the-greatest-deal-maker/">New Biography Portrays Kirk Kerkorian as ‘The Greatest Deal Maker’ (Jan 2018)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://epress.am/en/2011/02/23/why-did-lincy-fund-dissolve-armenian-diasporan-rep-quashes-speculations.html">Why Did Lincy Fund Dissolve? Armenian Diaspora Rep Quashes Speculations (Feb 2011)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/6897">How Lincy Foundation Money Was Managed (Apr 2003)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/comments/pl4lou/letters_between_krik_kerkorian_and_robert/">Fake News About Kerkorian’s Philanthropy (Reddit Discussion)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9nd1YfE_pE">The Armenian Who Took Over Vegas | Kirk Kerkorian Story (YouTube)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mediamax.am/en/column/12227/">Kirk Kerkorian’s National Hero Award and Legacy in Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/409/thumbnail-409.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/409/thumbnail-409.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16546430-harut-sassounian-billionaire-kirk-kerkorian-s-benevolent-engagement-with-armenia-ep-409-february-2-2025.mp3" length="84439790" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>7033</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Mirzoyan in Moscow, Kostanyan in Tehran, Mher Grigoryan on the Border, FIS Annual Report, Silence of the Lambs | Ep 409, Jan 26, 2025
[EP408]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/408-arthur-khachatryan-mirzoyan-in-moscow-kostanyan-in-tehran-borders-fis-annual-report-silence-of-the-lambs/</link><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16535079-arthur-khachatryan-mirzoyan-in-moscow-kostanyan-in-tehran-mher-grigoryan-on-the-border-fis-annual-report-silence-of-the-lambs-ep-408-jan-26-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>408</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Mirzoyan in Moscow, Kostanyan in Tehran, Mher Grigoryan on the Border, FIS Annual Report, Silence of the Lambs | Ep 409, Jan 26, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - 01/26/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Mr. Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP, Hayastan Dashinq/Armenia Alliance
#### Topics:
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Vahan Kostanyan in Tehran
* Mher Grigoryan on the Border (concessions)
* FIS Annual Report 2025
* The Silence of the Lambs
Episode 408 | Recorded: January 29, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Mr. Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP, Hayastan Dashinq/Armenia Alliance
#### Topics:
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Vahan Kostanyan in Tehran
* Mher Grigoryan on the Border (concessions)
* FIS Annual Report 2025
* The Silence of the Lambs
Episode 408 | Recorded: January 29, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
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#### Guest:
* [Mr. Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), MP, Hayastan Dashinq/Armenia Alliance
#### Topics:
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Vahan Kostanyan in Tehran
* Mher Grigoryan on the Border (concessions)
* FIS Annual Report 2025
* The Silence of the Lambs
Episode 408 | Recorded: January 29, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Army Day</strong> – Reflections on Armenia’s military, its legacy, and the significance of service</li>
<li><strong>Mirzoyan in Moscow</strong> – Armenia’s EU accession bid, Russia’s response, and economic implications</li>
<li><strong>Kostanyan in Tehran</strong> – Armenia-Iran relations amid regional instability and Iran’s red lines</li>
<li><strong>Mher Grigoryan on the Border (Concessions)</strong> – Concerns over ongoing border negotiations and potential territorial concessions</li>
<li><strong>FIS Annual Report 2025</strong> – First report from Armenia’s Foreign Intelligence Service, its implications, and internal contradictions</li>
<li><strong>US-Armenia Strategic Partnership</strong> – The significance of the recent agreement and its regional ramifications</li>
<li><strong>Silence of the Lambs</strong> – Sham trials of Artsakh leaders in Baku and the Armenian government’s silence</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How should Armenia commemorate <strong>Army Day</strong>, and why is it important in the current political climate?</li>
<li>What are the <strong>political and economic risks</strong> of Armenia’s EU bid, and how does it affect relations with Russia?</li>
<li>Can Armenia <strong>balance relations with Iran and the EU</strong>, especially given Iran’s concerns about Western presence in the region?</li>
<li>What is the <strong>impact of border negotiations</strong>, and could they lead to further <strong>concessions or resistance</strong> from the Armenian opposition?</li>
<li>What are the <strong>takeaways from the Foreign Intelligence Service&rsquo;s annual report</strong>, and why are there <strong>contradictions</strong> between Armenian security officials?</li>
<li>How impactful is the <strong>US-Armenia Strategic Partnership</strong>, and could it influence <strong>Turkey’s approach</strong> to Armenia?</li>
<li>Why is the Armenian government <strong>silent on the sham trials</strong> of Artsakh leaders in Baku, and what does this imply about Pashinyan’s stance?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/armenian-government-approves-bill-launch-eu-accession-bid-2025-01-09/">Armenian Government Approves Bill to Launch EU Accession Bid</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33279234.html">Mirzoyan’s Visit to Moscow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33283632.html">Reactions to Armenia’s EU Bid</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33277999.html">Analysis on Armenian-Russian Trade Relations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33283764.html">Kostanyan’s Visit to Tehran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33283764.html">Iranian Diplomatic Engagement with Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://president.ir/en/156874">Meeting Between Iranian and Armenian Officials</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/armenia">UK Government Updates Armenia Travel Advisory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33285260.html">Armenian Official Responses to Border Security</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/storage/content/2025/pdf/Annual_Report_ARM.pdf">Foreign Intelligence Service Annual Report (Armenian)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/storage/content/2025/pdf/Annual_Report_ENGLISH.pdf">Foreign Intelligence Service Annual Report (English)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1210337">US-Armenia Strategic Partnership Agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/21343/azerbaijan-armenian-hostages">International Reaction to Sham Trials in Baku</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jurist.org/news/2025/01/armenia-ngos-call-for-international-monitoring-of-trials-of-detainees-in-azerbaijan/">NGOs Call for Monitoring of Armenian Detainee Trials</a></li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/center-for-truth-and-justice-calls-on-baku-allow-international-lawyers-to-observe-trials-of-armenian-captives/">Calls for Legal Monitoring of Armenian Captives in Baku</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sport.news.am/eng/news/155745/henrikh-mkhitaryan-makes-call-with-%E2%80%98freedom-to-ruben-vardanyan-and-%E2%80%98freedom-to-armenian-prisoners-hashtags.html">Henrikh Mkhitaryan’s Social Media Campaign for Armenian Prisoners</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/408/thumbnail-408.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/408/thumbnail-408.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16535079-arthur-khachatryan-mirzoyan-in-moscow-kostanyan-in-tehran-mher-grigoryan-on-the-border-fis-annual-report-silence-of-the-lambs-ep-408-jan-26-2025.mp3" length="35049334" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2918</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - Russian-Iranian Partnership Pact | Ep 407, Jan 27, 2025
[EP407]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/407-pietro-shakarian-russian-iranian-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-agreement-implications-for-armenia-trump-white-house-war-or-peace/</link><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16512967-pietro-shakarian-russian-iranian-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-ep-407-jan-27-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>407</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - Russian-Iranian Partnership Pact | Ep 407, Jan 27, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 01/27/2025
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Russo-Iranian Partnership Treaty
* Implications of 🇷🇺 - 🇮🇷 pact for Armenia
* Trump Back in Office: War or Peace?
Episode 407 | Recorded: January 25, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Russo-Iranian Partnership Treaty
* Implications of 🇷🇺 - 🇮🇷 pact for Armenia
* Trump Back in Office: War or Peace?
Episode 407 | Recorded: January 25, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* Russo-Iranian Partnership Treaty
* Implications of 🇷🇺 - 🇮🇷 pact for Armenia
* Trump Back in Office: War or Peace?
Episode 407 | Recorded: January 25, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we discuss the recently signed Russian-Iranian Comprehensive Strategic Partnership treaty with historian Dr. Pietro Shakarian. The treaty, signed in January 2025, is a significant development in Eurasian geopolitics, encompassing military, economic, and cultural cooperation. We explore its implications for Armenia, the South Caucasus, and the broader region, as well as its intersection with global power dynamics involving the United States, Europe, and Israel.</p>
<h3 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h3>
<ul>
<li>Russian-Iranian Comprehensive Strategic Partnership treaty</li>
<li>Implications of the treaty for Armenia and the South Caucasus</li>
<li>Eurasian geopolitics and the significance of Articles 12 and 13 of the treaty</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s strategic importance and its relationships with Turkey, Israel, and the West</li>
<li>The role of the International North-South Trade Corridor (INSTC) and regional infrastructure</li>
<li>The geopolitical implications of U.S., Russian, and Iranian interactions</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h3>
<ul>
<li>Why was the Russian-Iranian Comprehensive Strategic Partnership treaty needed, and what are its historical underpinnings?</li>
<li>What differentiates the treaty from a formal military alliance?</li>
<li>How does the treaty’s Article 12 define regional peace and security, particularly for the Caspian, Central Asia, Transcaucasia, and the Middle East?</li>
<li>How might this treaty influence the geopolitical orientations of Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What is the strategic significance of the International North-South Trade Corridor, particularly in relation to the Rasht-Astara railway?</li>
<li>How does Azerbaijan’s growing importance to both Russia and Iran affect Armenia and the region?</li>
<li>What is the treaty’s impact on U.S. and Israeli strategic interests in the region?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During the Show</h3>
<ol>
<li><a href="https://usrussiaaccord.org/acura-exclusive-pietro-a-shakarian-the-russo-persian-partnership-pact-significance-and-implications/">The Russo-Persian Partnership Pact: Significance and Implications – Pietro Shakarian</a></li>
<li><a href="https://president.ir/en/156874">Iran President’s Office Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/russias-planned-gas-pipeline-iran-2025-01-20/">Reuters: Russia’s Planned Gas Pipeline to Iran</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/407">Groong Podcast Episode Page</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-war-sanctions-threat-rcna188960">NBC News: Trump on Russia-Ukraine Conflict</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tass.com/politics/1887447">TASS: Kremlin&rsquo;s View on Trump-Putin Relations</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/01/23/trump-meet-putin-discuss-ukraine-peace-deal">Axios: Trump-Putin Ukraine Peace Talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/1/23/why-is-ukraine-struggling-to-mobilise-its-citizens-to-fight">Al Jazeera: Ukraine Struggles to Mobilize Citizens</a></li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/407/thumbnail-407.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/407/thumbnail-407.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16512967-pietro-shakarian-russian-iranian-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-ep-407-jan-27-2025.mp3" length="43834463" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3648</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Trump Inauguration, Iran-Russia, UK-Ukraine, US-Armenia Strategic Partnerships | Ep 406, Jan 19, 2025
[EP406]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/406-hrant-mikaelian-trump-inauguration-russian-iranian-and-uk-ukrainian-and-us-armenian-strategic-partnerships/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 00:06:59 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16478417-hrant-mikaelian-trump-inauguration-iran-russia-uk-ukraine-us-armenia-strategic-partnerships-ep-406-jan-19-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>406</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Trump Inauguration, Iran-Russia, UK-Ukraine, US-Armenia Strategic Partnerships | Ep 406, Jan 19, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - January 19, 2025
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Trump Inauguration
* Russian-Iranian Strategic Partnership
* UK-Ukrainian 100-Year Partnership
* US-Armenian “Strategic Partnership”
Episode 406 | Recorded: January 20, 2025</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Trump Inauguration
* Russian-Iranian Strategic Partnership
* UK-Ukrainian 100-Year Partnership
* US-Armenian “Strategic Partnership”
Episode 406 | Recorded: January 20, 2025</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Trump Inauguration
* Russian-Iranian Strategic Partnership
* UK-Ukrainian 100-Year Partnership
* US-Armenian “Strategic Partnership”
Episode 406 | Recorded: January 20, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="trump-inauguration"><strong>Trump Inauguration</strong></h2>
<p>We recorded this episode on January 20, 2025, during Trump’s inauguration. This marks one of the most anticipated U.S. transitions of power in recent memory. Topics include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Potential nuclear confrontation with Russia.</li>
<li>The possibility of a U.S.-Israeli strike on Iran.</li>
<li>Broader shifts in the global world order.</li>
</ul>
<p>Hrant shares insights on Trump&rsquo;s foreign policy priorities and the implications of his cabinet choices.</p>
<h2 id="a-tale-of-three-partnerships"><strong>A Tale of Three Partnerships</strong></h2>
<h3 id="russian-iranian-strategic-partnership"><strong>Russian-Iranian Strategic Partnership</strong></h3>
<p>On January 17, Russia and Iran signed a 20-year &ldquo;Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership,&rdquo; marking a deepening of relations. The agreement is poised to influence conflicts in Ukraine, Syria, Gaza, and Lebanon.</p>
<h3 id="uk-ukrainian-100-year-partnership"><strong>UK-Ukrainian 100-Year Partnership</strong></h3>
<p>British PM Keir Starmer and Ukrainian President Zelensky signed a century-long agreement on January 16, highlighting defense cooperation and NATO membership advocacy.</p>
<h3 id="us-armenian-strategic-partnership"><strong>US-Armenian Strategic Partnership</strong></h3>
<p>On January 14, Armenia and the U.S. signed a &ldquo;Strategic Partnership&rdquo; agreement, covering economic, defense, and cultural aspects. However, this move risks straining Armenia&rsquo;s ties with Russia and Iran.</p>
<h2 id="explaining-eu-to-russia"><strong>&ldquo;Explaining&rdquo; EU to Russia</strong></h2>
<p>Armenian PM Nikol Pashinyan reportedly called Vladimir Putin to clarify Armenia&rsquo;s alignment with the U.S. and its plans for a European Union referendum. This conversation raises questions about Armenia&rsquo;s delicate balancing act in the region.</p>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key questions discussed:</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Are these agreements symbolic or transformative?</li>
<li>How do they reflect shifting alliances in global geopolitics?</li>
<li>How did Putin receive Pashinyan&rsquo;s call?</li>
<li>How do Armenia’s activities sit with the Russia-Iran treaty which codified the mutual desire to prevent the interference of third parties in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants"><strong>Thoughts from the Participants</strong></h2>
<h3 id="hovik">Hovik:</h3>
<ul>
<li>Memes from Trump’s inauguration, including the infamous Zuckerberg-Panama Canal meme.</li>
<li>Reflection on the sham trials of Artsakh leaders in Baku, emphasizing the collective honor of Armenians.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="hrant">Hrant:</h3>
<ul>
<li>Criticism of Armenian government propagandists targeting Artsakh leadership under trial.</li>
<li>The dire state of Armenia&rsquo;s political landscape and the importance of prioritizing Artsakh in public discourse.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-in-the-episode">Links Referenced in the Episode</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://usrussiaaccord.org/acura-exclusive-pietro-a-shakarian-the-russo-persian-partnership-pact-significance-and-implications/">US-Russia Accord: Russo-Persian Partnership Analysis</a></li>
<li><a href="http://kremlin.ru/supplement/6258">Kremlin Treaty Details</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-starmer-putin-uk-britain-nato-c030b163628583a322f39729160646cc">AP News: UK-Ukraine Partnership Agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/news/one-hundred-year-partnership-agreement-between-the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-and-ukraine#:~:text=ACKNOWLEDGING%20the%20achievements%20of%20the,taking%20into%20consideration%20principles%20and">UK Government: 100-Year Partnership Announcement</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2025/01/14/the/13032">Armenian MFA on US-Armenia Agreement</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>405</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian - New Leadership in Lebanon - New President, New Prime Minister | Ep 405, Jan 21, 2025</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Prime Minister-designate Nawaf Salam
* The Changing Face of the Middle East
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Episode 405 | Recorded: Januaqry 19, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="lebanon-elects-new-leadership">Lebanon Elects New Leadership</h1>
<h2 id="lebanons-political-breakthrough"><strong>Lebanon’s Political Breakthrough:</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>After years of deadlock, Joseph Aoun’s election as president signals potential stability.</li>
<li>The factors leading to this consensus, including regional and domestic pressures from the U.S., Saudi Arabia, and France.</li>
<li>The significance of appointing Nawaf Salam, a reformist diplomat, as Prime Minister-designate despite Hezbollah’s objections.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-implications"><strong>Geopolitical Implications:</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>The November ceasefire agreement and its impact on Israeli and Hezbollah positions.</li>
<li>Regional influences shaping Lebanon’s policies, including Saudi and Iranian agendas.</li>
<li>Potential financial aid packages tied to political and economic reforms.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-communitys-role"><strong>Armenian Community’s Role:</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>How the Armenian community has adapted to Lebanon’s crises.</li>
<li>Relations between the Armenian political parties and Joseph Aoun’s administration.</li>
<li>The community’s cautious optimism about Lebanon’s future.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP404]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/404-tevan-poghosyan-incoming-trump-admin-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-iran-visit-pro-west-signals/</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:01:55 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16449999-tevan-poghosyan-incoming-trump-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-iran-visit-pro-west-signals-ep-404-jan-12-2025.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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* Iran Security Chief Visit
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Episode 404 | Recorded: January 14, 2025</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <strong>Armenian News Network / Groong</strong>, we sit down with <strong>Tevan Poghosyan</strong> to discuss global and regional developments, including the incoming Trump administration&rsquo;s potential impact, the Armenia-Azerbaijan talks, Iran&rsquo;s regional positioning, and Armenia&rsquo;s pro-Western signals amidst Russian warnings. Hosts <strong>Hovik Manucharyan</strong> and <strong>Asbed Bedrossian</strong> lead the discussion.</p>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ol>
<li>
<p><strong>Incoming Trump Administration:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The potential effects of Trump’s foreign policy on Ukraine, Israel, Iran, and global dynamics.</li>
<li>Key relationships with leaders like Putin and Netanyahu.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Armenia-Azerbaijan Talks:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Analysis of Aliyev’s aggressive rhetoric and Armenia’s peace agenda.</li>
<li>Shifting dynamics from negotiations to command and response.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Iranian Security Chief Visit:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Context of Ali Akbar Ahmadian’s visit to Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Iran’s strategies to safeguard its interests in the region.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong>Pro-Western Signals Amid Russian Warnings:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s EU membership bid and strategic partnership agreement with the U.S.</li>
<li>Challenges of balancing CSTO and EAEU memberships with Western aspirations.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>How realistic are Trump’s promises of resolving global conflicts like Ukraine within a day?</li>
<li>Are Aliyev’s threats shifting the narrative from peace talks to submission?</li>
<li>What is Iran’s strategic intent in the South Caucasus amidst regional escalations?</li>
<li>How can Armenia navigate its pro-Western moves while maintaining essential ties with Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7e3qzpn9xo">BBC on Trump-Putin Meeting Plans</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-unlikely-to-attend-trump-inauguration-aide-says/">Times of Israel on Netanyahu&rsquo;s Absence from Trump’s Inauguration</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33268543.html">Azatutyun on Armenia-Azerbaijan Talks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/armenian-government-approves-bill-launch-eu-accession-bid-2025-01-09/">Reuters on Armenia’s EU Accession Bid</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Thousands gather for New Year’s eve at Yerablur, an unforgettable experience.
<ul>
<li>Book “Provoked” by Scott Horton. Read it!</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Artsakh, Artsakh, Artsakh. The nation was not ready and united to deal with the fire it faced, and the same is the case for our compatriots facing damage from fires in Los Angeles.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP403]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/403-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-lies-on-negotiations-17-points-to-an-agreement-2024-review-2025-outlook/</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16366354-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-lies-on-decades-of-negotiations-17-points-to-an-agreement-2024-review-and-2025-outlook-ep-403-dec-29-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>403</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Pashinyan Lies on Decades of Negotiations, 17 Points to an Agreement, 2024 Review and 2025 Outlook | Ep 403 - Dec 29, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* 17 Points to an Agreement
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* 17 Points to an Agreement
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Episode 403 | Recorded: December 31, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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* 17 Points to an Agreement
* 2024 Review and 2025 Outlook
Episode 403 | Recorded: December 31, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the final episode of 2024 for the Armenian News Network, Groong, featuring Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of the Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies. In this Week in Review episode, we delve into a comprehensive discussion of pivotal topics that have defined the past year. These include Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s controversial claims about past negotiations on Artsakh, the evolving dynamics of Armenia-Azerbaijan relations, and the broader implications of these developments for the region and beyond.</p>
<p>As we close out the year, we also reflect on the most significant events of 2024 and consider what lies ahead in 2025. This engaging episode provides expert insights and thought-provoking analysis, offering listeners a detailed understanding of the current geopolitical landscape.</p>
<hr>
<h1 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s claims about decades of negotiations on Artsakh and their historical context</li>
<li>Ilham Aliyev&rsquo;s latest demands, including constitutional changes and their strategic implications</li>
<li>The dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group: motivations and consequences for regional diplomacy</li>
<li>Summary and analysis of the &ldquo;17 Points to an Agreement&rdquo; framework and its unresolved issues</li>
<li>Reflections on the major political, economic, and social stories that shaped 2024</li>
<li>Key predictions for 2025, focusing on the geopolitical future of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Turkey, and the broader South Caucasus region</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h1>
<ol>
<li>Why has Nikol Pashinyan made contentious statements about past negotiations, and what are the broader implications of these assertions for Armenia&rsquo;s domestic and foreign policy?</li>
<li>What do Ilham Aliyev&rsquo;s additional demands indicate about Azerbaijan’s long-term strategy in the region, and how might these demands influence future peace talks?</li>
<li>How do Russia’s statements on dissolving the OSCE Minsk Group reflect its shifting priorities in the South Caucasus, and what does this mean for Armenia&rsquo;s alliances?</li>
<li>What are the unresolved points in the Armenia-Azerbaijan peace agreement framework, and how might they affect the likelihood of a lasting resolution?</li>
<li>How will regional geopolitics, particularly developments in Iran and Ukraine, shape the landscape of the South Caucasus and beyond in 2025?</li>
<li>What lessons can be drawn from the political and economic events of 2024 to better anticipate future challenges?</li>
</ol>
<hr>
<h1 id="2024-review-and-2025-predictions">2024 Review and 2025 Predictions</h1>
<p><em>(Segment begins at 40:53)</em></p>
<h2 id="asbed-bedrossian">Asbed Bedrossian</h2>
<h3 id="2024-predictions--assessment">2024 Predictions — Assessment</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Armenian real estate downturn</strong><br>
Predicted a possible significant downturn. This did <strong>not</strong> occur in 2024, though Asbed noted that underlying risks remain and may materialize in 2025.</li>
<li><strong>Trump election</strong><br>
Initially assessed as 50–50, revised to 75–25 by mid-year. Trump’s election is counted as a <strong>successful prediction</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>Israel–Gaza war regional expansion</strong><br>
Assigned a low probability to regional escalation. This proved <strong>incorrect</strong>, as the conflict expanded to Lebanon, Syria, and direct Iran–Israel exchanges, with mass civilian casualties. Asbed still marked partial credit for identifying escalation risk dynamics.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2025-outlook">2025 Outlook</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Ukraine war</strong><br>
Likely to wind down or slow, possibly entering negotiations, but not fully resolved.</li>
<li><strong>Palestine / Gaza</strong><br>
Expects continued catastrophe, potential ethnic cleansing, and broad international indifference. Frames this as a defining moral issue of 2025.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia</strong><br>
Does not expect regime collapse. Anticipates continued Western financial support via loans, sustaining the current government amid prolonged insecurity and stagnation.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="benyamin-poghosyan">Benyamin Poghosyan</h2>
<h3 id="2024-predictions--assessment-1">2024 Predictions — Assessment</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Armenia–Azerbaijan agreement</strong><br>
Initially gave a medium probability that some agreement or statement would be signed, mainly to help Azerbaijan’s image before COP29. Outcome: <strong>incorrect</strong>. No agreement was signed, and Aliyev rehabilitated his image without concessions.</li>
<li><strong>Ukraine war freeze</strong><br>
Medium probability prediction. Did <strong>not</strong> occur.</li>
<li><strong>Return of Armenians to Artsakh</strong><br>
Low probability prediction. Now assessed as <strong>near zero</strong>, both in hindsight and going forward.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Overall assessment:</strong> Shifted from cautious optimism early in the year to near-total pessimism by year’s end.</p>
<h3 id="2025-outlook-1">2025 Outlook</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Ukraine</strong><br>
The central global variable: either a ceasefire or continued war, both with major geopolitical consequences.</li>
<li><strong>Iran</strong><br>
Sees Iran as the main regional flashpoint, either through external confrontation (Israel or the US) or internal instability and power transition.</li>
<li><strong>South Caucasus / Armenia–Azerbaijan</strong><br>
Does not expect a peace agreement. Predicts Azerbaijan will focus on the timing, scale, and form of escalation against Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="hovik-manucharyan">Hovik Manucharyan</h2>
<h3 id="2024-predictions--assessment-2">2024 Predictions — Assessment</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Meaningless Armenia–Azerbaijan treaty</strong><br>
Expected a symbolic agreement. This did <strong>not</strong> happen, though Hovik noted Aliyev ultimately did not need one.</li>
<li><strong>Enclaves</strong><br>
Predicted territorial losses. Assessed as <strong>accurate</strong>, noting enclaves were effectively handed over.</li>
<li><strong>Pashinyan consolidating power</strong><br>
Predicted increased authoritarian behavior with Western indifference. Marked as <strong>fully correct</strong>.</li>
<li><strong>Opposition effectiveness</strong><br>
Low probability that the opposition would organize effectively. Remains <strong>unfulfilled</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2025-outlook-2">2025 Outlook</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Iran</strong><br>
Aligns with Benyamin’s view. Expects Iran to be the central regional crisis point.</li>
<li><strong>Ukraine</strong><br>
Predicts the war may slow but not end, with conflict displaced into other regions.</li>
<li><strong>Armenia</strong><br>
Sees no positive trajectory without regime change. Views an Azerbaijani attack as a matter of <em>when</em>, not <em>if</em>. Emphasizes morale and internal readiness as Armenia’s only real deterrents.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="overall-takeaways">Overall Takeaways</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>2024</strong><br>
Azerbaijan consolidated gains with minimal cost, Western accountability eroded faster than expected, and pessimistic scenarios materialized more often than optimistic ones.</li>
<li><strong>2025</strong><br>
No peace dividend expected. Ukraine, Iran, and Azerbaijan’s posture toward Armenia dominate forecasts. Risk and instability increase rather than decline.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During the Show</strong></h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/NVDZ---WZ0U">Episode 403 on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/403">Episode 403 Show Notes</a></li>
<li>Related episodes: <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/300">Episode 300</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/347">Episode 347</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="closing-remarks"><strong>Closing Remarks</strong></h1>
<p>This episode concludes a remarkable year for the Groong podcast, marking our 103rd show in 2024. Our discussions aim to deliver objective and nuanced perspectives on critical regional and global issues, making this platform an invaluable resource for diplomats, experts, and engaged audiences alike.</p>
<p>We thank our listeners for their continued support and look forward to more impactful conversations in the year ahead. Happy New Year to all, and here’s to a 2025 filled with insightful dialogue and meaningful connections.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
<ul>
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<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/403/thumbnail-403.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/403/thumbnail-403.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16366354-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-lies-on-decades-of-negotiations-17-points-to-an-agreement-2024-review-and-2025-outlook-ep-403-dec-29-2024.mp3" length="43322226" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3607</itunes:duration></item><item><title>The Political Persecution of Narek Malyan | Ep 402 - Dec 27, 2024
[EP402]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/402-armenian-news-narek-malyan-political-prisoner-human-rights-pretrial-detention/</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16344566-the-political-persecution-of-narek-malyan-ep-402-dec-27-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>402</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Political Persecution of Narek Malyan | Ep 402 - Dec 27, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Dec 27, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Narek Malyan](/guest/nmalyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest, one year in prison
* Pre-trial detention as punishment
* Selective "justice" against opposition members
* The silence of the West
Episode 402 | Recorded: November 7, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Narek Malyan](/guest/nmalyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest, one year in prison
* Pre-trial detention as punishment
* Selective "justice" against opposition members
* The silence of the West
Episode 402 | Recorded: November 7, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Narek Malyan](/guest/nmalyan)
#### Topics:
* Arrest, one year in prison
* Pre-trial detention as punishment
* Selective "justice" against opposition members
* The silence of the West
Episode 402 | Recorded: November 7, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, we speak with Narek Malyan, an author, activist, and former political prisoner. Malyan shares his experiences during a year-long imprisonment, sheds light on the increasing use of pretrial detention as a political weapon in Armenia, and critiques the role of Western embassies in enabling government abuses. This insightful conversation delves into the implications of political repression and the erosion of human rights in Armenia.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li>Political repression in Armenia post-2018</li>
<li>The misuse of pretrial detention as a tool against political dissent</li>
<li>Double standards in international human rights advocacy</li>
<li>Western embassies’ influence on Armenia’s political landscape</li>
<li>Narek Malyan’s personal account of imprisonment and release</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ol>
<li>What are the personal and societal impacts of political persecution in Armenia?</li>
<li>How has pretrial detention been weaponized against government critics?</li>
<li>What role do Western embassies and human rights organizations play in Armenia’s political system?</li>
<li>How can Armenia’s justice system be reformed to prevent abuses of power?</li>
</ol>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During the Show</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcast.groong.org/343">Episode 343</a> - Discussion on pretrial detention in Armenia</li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.groong.org/383">Episode 383</a> - Armenian-language version of this interview</li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Groong Link Tree</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/402/thumbnail-402.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/402/thumbnail-402.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16344566-the-political-persecution-of-narek-malyan-ep-402-dec-27-2024.mp3" length="31248459" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2601</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, Syria, Defense Politics, Civil Contract Strife | Ep 401 - Dec 22, 2024
[EP401]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/401-dziunik-aghajanian-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-fall-of-syria-defense-politics-civil-contract-strife/</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16340945-dziunik-aghajanian-on-us-iran-plans-azerbaijan-s-role-armenia-s-future-ep-401-dec-22-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>401</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, Syria, Defense Politics, Civil Contract Strife | Ep 401 - Dec 22, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - 12/22/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Stalled Talks
* Fall of Syria
* Defense Politics
* Un-Civil Strife
Episode 401 | Recorded: December 24, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Stalled Talks
* Fall of Syria
* Defense Politics
* Un-Civil Strife
Episode 401 | Recorded: December 24, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Stalled Talks
* Fall of Syria
* Defense Politics
* Un-Civil Strife
Episode 401 | Recorded: December 24, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review, we speak with Ambassador Dziunik Aghajanian, a seasoned diplomat and former Armenian ambassador to the Netherlands, Malaysia, and Indonesia. This discussion delves into the most pressing geopolitical and domestic issues currently shaping Armenia&rsquo;s future. Topics include poignant revelations about US plans to encircle Iran, Azerbaijan’s pivotal role in this strategy, and the broader implications for the South Caucasus.</p>
<p>Ambassador Aghajanian shares her unique insights into how these dynamics influence not only Armenia but also the regional balance of power. The conversation explores the historical context, current developments, and future trajectories that are critical for understanding the challenges facing Armenia today. Through her experienced perspective, we examine the intersection of Western interests, Russian influence, and local governance, gaining a deeper understanding of Armenia&rsquo;s precarious position amidst competing global powers.</p>
<p>With critical analysis and nuanced discussion, this episode is essential listening for anyone interested in geopolitics, the South Caucasus, or international relations.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered"><strong>Topics Covered</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Stalled Armenian-Azerbaijani peace talks and Aliyev’s new preconditions, including demands for demilitarization and territorial concessions</li>
<li>The Zangezur Corridor and its far-reaching implications for Armenian sovereignty and regional transportation</li>
<li>The fall of Syria, its geopolitical repercussions, and its effect on Armenia and the wider Middle East</li>
<li>Defense politics in Armenia: proposed military reforms, the reduction of mandatory service time, and concerns about demilitarization</li>
<li>Western influence in Armenia: how global strategies and alignments are shaping the country’s domestic and foreign policies</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Are Armenia and Azerbaijan converging on a peace treaty, or is the process fundamentally stalled? What are the obstacles to progress?</li>
<li>How does the so-called &ldquo;Zangezur Corridor&rdquo; factor into the broader geopolitical strategy of Turkey and Azerbaijan? What are its implications for regional security?</li>
<li>What role does the fall of Syria play in reshaping power dynamics in the Middle East and the South Caucasus? How might this affect Armenia’s strategic options?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s reduction in mandatory military service a prelude to broader demilitarization, and what does this mean for national security?</li>
<li>How are Western policies and strategic interests influencing Armenia&rsquo;s political landscape, and what challenges does this pose for its sovereignty and independence?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="links-referenced-during-the-show"><strong>Links Referenced During the Show</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>Aliyev’s interview detailing preconditions for peace talks: <a href="https://youtu.be/WuXZhdu8IiQ?si=i2HXdGAE96nn-CHG">Watch the interview</a></li>
<li>RAND Corporation’s &ldquo;Extending Russia&rdquo; paper: <a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html">View here</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="other-resources"><strong>Other Resources</strong></h2>
<ul>
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<li><a href="https://spotify.com">Follow us on Spotify</a></li>
<li><a href="https://apple.com/podcasts">Subscribe on Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
<ul>
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<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/401/thumbnail-401.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/401/thumbnail-401.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16340945-dziunik-aghajanian-on-us-iran-plans-azerbaijan-s-role-armenia-s-future-ep-401-dec-22-2024.mp3" length="51250917" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4268</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Matthew Hoh - Imperial US Foreign Policy, and the Role of the Think Tank Industry | Ep 400 - Dec 23, 2024
[EP400]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/400-matthew-hoh-imperial-us-foreign-policy-and-the-role-of-think-tank-industry/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2024 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16323114-matt-hoh-on-u-s-imperialism-wars-and-the-role-of-think-tanks-in-policy-ep-400-dec-22-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>400</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Matthew Hoh - Imperial US Foreign Policy, and the Role of the Think Tank Industry | Ep 400 - Dec 23, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - December 22, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Capt. Matthew Hoh](/guest/mhoh)
#### Topics:
* U.S. Imperialism
* The Role of the Think Tank Industry
Episode 400 | Recorded: December 20, 2024</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Capt. Matthew Hoh](/guest/mhoh)
#### Topics:
* U.S. Imperialism
* The Role of the Think Tank Industry
Episode 400 | Recorded: December 20, 2024</description><googleplay:description>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Capt. Matthew Hoh](/guest/mhoh)
#### Topics:
* U.S. Imperialism
* The Role of the Think Tank Industry
Episode 400 | Recorded: December 20, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, we dive deep into the intricate dynamics of U.S. imperial foreign policy with Capt. Matthew Hoh. A distinguished Marine Corps officer, former diplomat, and outspoken anti-war advocate, Capt. Hoh offers a comprehensive perspective on the motivations, strategies, and consequences of America’s global military engagements. This discussion sheds light on how the U.S. wields its power across the world and the critical role of think tanks in shaping policies that influence global conflicts. By drawing on his personal experiences and professional expertise, Capt. Hoh exposes the often-hidden realities behind the U.S. Empire’s far-reaching actions, offering a thought-provoking analysis of its impact on nations like Afghanistan, Syria, and Ukraine, and raising essential questions about the ethics and future of such policies.</p>
<h1 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h1>
<ul>
<li>The concept of U.S. Imperial Wars and the &ldquo;imperial mindset&rdquo;</li>
<li>How think tanks influence U.S. military policy and decision-making</li>
<li>Detailed case studies: Afghanistan, Syria, and Ukraine as theaters of conflict</li>
<li>The RAND Corporation, its strategies, and its role in the Military-Industrial Complex</li>
<li>The broader implications of U.S. policy on global stability and emerging powers</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ol>
<li>What are the driving forces behind the U.S. Empire, and how do they shape global affairs?</li>
<li>How does the &ldquo;imperial mindset&rdquo; manifest in modern U.S. foreign policy?</li>
<li>Was the official narrative in Afghanistan, particularly about Al Qaeda and the Taliban, accurate, and what were its flaws?</li>
<li>Why does the U.S. align with controversial groups, such as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham in Syria, despite their histories?</li>
<li>How do think tanks and defense industry lobbying drive U.S. military strategies?</li>
<li>How do other geopolitical players like Russia and China compare in terms of imperial ambitions and strategies?</li>
<li>Can the Military-Industrial Complex be reined in, and what role does public awareness play in such efforts?</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="links-referenced-during-the-show">Links Referenced During The Show</h1>
<ol>
<li><a href="https://eisenhowermedianetwork.org/staff/matthew-hoh/">Matthew Hoh’s biography on Eisenhower Media Network</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gp.org/a_morality_of_anger_and_guilt">Matthew Hoh’s article &ldquo;A Morality of Anger and Guilt&rdquo;</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html">RAND Corporation Report: Extending Russia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://quincyinst.org/research/defense-contractor-funded-think-tanks-dominate-ukraine-debate/">Ben Freeman’s Quincy Institute brief on defense-funded think tanks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://a.co/d/4wYLiR5">Glenn Diesen’s book: The Think Tank Racket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.c-span.org/program/qa/matthew-hoh/522496">CSPAN Interview on Think Tanks and U.S. Policy</a></li>
</ol>
<h1 id="other-resources">Other Resources</h1>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Link Tree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/groong">Patreon - Support Groong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/400/thumbnail-400.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/400/thumbnail-400.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16323114-matt-hoh-on-u-s-imperialism-wars-and-the-role-of-think-tanks-in-policy-ep-400-dec-22-2024.mp3" length="41527063" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3457</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arman Grigoryan - Beyond the Fall of Syria, Armenian and Global Geopolitics, | Ep 399 - Dec 21, 2024
[EP399]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/399-arman-grigoryan-beyond-the-fall-of-syria-armenia-and-global-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16320058-arman-grigoryan-on-beyond-the-fall-of-syria-armenia-and-global-politics-ep-399-dec-21-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>399</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arman Grigoryan - Beyond the Fall of Syria, Armenian and Global Geopolitics, | Ep 399 - Dec 21, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - December 21, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* Syria’s Fall and Regional Power Shifts
* Turkey’s Expanding Influence in Syria
* Impact on Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations
* Russia and Iran’s Middle East Strategy
Episode 399 | Recorded: December 19, 2024</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
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* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* Syria’s Fall and Regional Power Shifts
* Turkey’s Expanding Influence in Syria
* Impact on Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations
* Russia and Iran’s Middle East Strategy
Episode 399 | Recorded: December 19, 2024</description><googleplay:description>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Arman Grigoryan](/guest/argrigoryan)
#### Topics:
* Syria’s Fall and Regional Power Shifts
* Turkey’s Expanding Influence in Syria
* Impact on Armenia-Azerbaijan Relations
* Russia and Iran’s Middle East Strategy
Episode 399 | Recorded: December 19, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="beyond-the-fall-of-syria">Beyond the Fall of Syria</h1>
<p>In this episode of the Groong Podcast, Dr. Arman Grigoryan provides an in-depth analysis of Syria’s geopolitical shifts following the fall of Bashar al-Assad’s regime. We explore Turkey’s strategic maneuvers, Russia and Iran’s setbacks, and the implications for Armenia amid regional tensions. This thought-provoking discussion connects the dots between Middle Eastern politics and the South Caucasus, offering insights into the broader impact of these developments on global geopolitics.</p>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<ul>
<li>The fall of Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria and its regional implications.</li>
<li>Turkey’s influence in Syria and its role in shaping the region’s future.</li>
<li>Russia and Iran’s setbacks in Syria and their broader geopolitical strategies.</li>
<li>Proxy conflicts involving the U.S., Turkey, and Kurdish forces.</li>
<li>Armenia’s geopolitical challenges amid shifting regional power dynamics.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s demands and ongoing tensions with Armenia.</li>
<li>Comparisons between Russian disengagements in Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh.</li>
<li>The role of global powers like the U.S. and Israel in the Middle East.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<h3 id="syria">Syria:</h3>
<ul>
<li>What led to the collapse of Assad’s regime, and who are the key players now shaping Syria’s future?</li>
<li>How rational is Turkey’s policy in Syria, and can it control the radical militias now dispersed across the country?</li>
<li>Is the current scenario in Syria leading to a new Afghanistan-like situation?</li>
<li>What strategic gains or losses do Russia and Iran face from their disengagement?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="turkeys-role">Turkey’s Role:</h3>
<ul>
<li>How did Turkey convince Russia and Iran to withdraw their support for Assad?</li>
<li>What might Turkey demand from global and regional players for its role in Syria?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-azerbaijan">Armenia-Azerbaijan:</h3>
<ul>
<li>How do developments in Syria affect Azerbaijan’s strategy toward Armenia?</li>
<li>What steps should Armenia take to counterbalance Azerbaijan’s increasing militarization and demands?</li>
<li>How significant is Iran’s stance on Armenia’s territorial integrity and the Zangezur Corridor?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="global-dynamics">Global Dynamics:</h3>
<ul>
<li>How does Syria’s fall alter the balance of power in the Middle East?</li>
<li>Are proxy wars between the U.S. and Turkey escalating?</li>
<li>What lessons can Armenia learn from Russian disengagements in other regions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-and-resources">Links and Resources</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Link Tree</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.patreon.com/groong">Patreon - Support Groong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/groong">Buy Me a Coffee - Support Groong</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/399/thumbnail-399.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/399/thumbnail-399.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16320058-arman-grigoryan-on-beyond-the-fall-of-syria-armenia-and-global-politics-ep-399-dec-21-2024.mp3" length="54104496" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4506</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Anna Karapetyan - Azerbaijan Preparing for War, Pashinyan's Deceptive Discourse on Negotiations, Armenians Uninformed, Swiss Parliamentary Motion on Artsakh Armenians Right of Return | Ep 398 - Dec 15, 2024
[EP398]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/398-anna-karapetyan-azerbaijan-preparing-for-war-pashinyan-deceptive-discourse-on-negotiations-armenians-uninformed-swiss-parliament-on-nagorno-karabakh/</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2024 06:10:36 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16307934-anna-karapetyan-azerbaijan-preparing-for-war-pashinyan-deceptive-discourse-on-negotiations-swiss-parliamentary-motion-on-artsakh-armenians-right-of-return-ep-398-dec-15-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>398</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Karapetyan - Azerbaijan Preparing for War, Pashinyan's Deceptive Discourse on Negotiations, Armenians Uninformed, Swiss Parliamentary Motion on Artsakh Armenians Right of Return | Ep 398 - Dec 15, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - December 15, 2024
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Is Azerbaijan Preparing for War?
* Pashinyan’s Deceptive Discourse on Talks with Azerbaijan
* Are Armenans Aware of the Dangers facing the Nation?
* Swiss Parliamentary Motion on Artsakh Armenians’ Right of Return
Episode 398 | Recorded: December 17, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Is Azerbaijan Preparing for War?
* Pashinyan’s Deceptive Discourse on Talks with Azerbaijan
* Are Armenans Aware of the Dangers facing the Nation?
* Swiss Parliamentary Motion on Artsakh Armenians’ Right of Return
Episode 398 | Recorded: December 17, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan) Director of the Insight Analytical Center for Applied Policy and Research.
#### Topics:
* Is Azerbaijan Preparing for War?
* Pashinyan’s Deceptive Discourse on Talks with Azerbaijan
* Are Armenans Aware of the Dangers facing the Nation?
* Swiss Parliamentary Motion on Artsakh Armenians’ Right of Return
Episode 398 | Recorded: December 17, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this <em>Week in Review</em> episode, we discuss with Dr. Anna Karapetyan Azerbaijan’s increasing military activity and its implications for Armenia’s security, including arms shipments and UAV operations. We also explore Switzerland’s motion advocating for a peace forum to ensure the safe return of displaced Artsakh Armenians and its significance in addressing ethnic cleansing on an international stage.</p>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered:</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Azerbaijan’s War Preparations</strong>
<ul>
<li>Evidence of increased military activity, including arms shipments and Turkish UAV operations near Armenia.</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s rhetoric regarding &ldquo;Western Azerbaijan&rdquo; and its implications.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Swiss Motion on Artsakh Armenians’ Right of Return</strong>
<ul>
<li>Details of Switzerland’s call for an international peace forum to address the safe return of displaced Artsakh Armenians.</li>
<li>The significance of the motion in addressing ethnic cleansing and its alignment with international decisions.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed:</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the current level of danger Armenia faces given Azerbaijan’s military actions?</li>
<li>Is the Armenian public desensitized to these threats?</li>
<li>What are the chances of Azerbaijan’s engagement in Switzerland’s proposed peace initiative?</li>
<li>How significant is this motion internationally?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/398/thumbnail-398.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/398/thumbnail-398.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16307934-anna-karapetyan-azerbaijan-preparing-for-war-pashinyan-deceptive-discourse-on-negotiations-swiss-parliamentary-motion-on-artsakh-armenians-right-of-return-ep-398-dec-15-2024.mp3" length="20401182" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1697</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh: Gev Iskajyan Reflects on Survival and Tragedy | Ep 397 - Dec 18, 2024
[EP397]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/397-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-ethnic-cleansing-armenian-identity-nagorno-karabakh-tragedy/</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:05:04 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16304117-ethnic-cleansing-of-artsakh-gev-iskajyan-reflects-on-survival-and-tragedy-ep-397-dec-18-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>397</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh: Gev Iskajyan Reflects on Survival and Tragedy | Ep 397 - Dec 18, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - December 18, 2024
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Memories of the Artsakh Blockade
* Ethnic Cleansing
* Trump Returns to the White House
Episode 397 | Recorded: December 18, 2024</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
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#### Topics:
* Memories of the Artsakh Blockade
* Ethnic Cleansing
* Trump Returns to the White House
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#### Topics:
* Memories of the Artsakh Blockade
* Ethnic Cleansing
* Trump Returns to the White House
Episode 397 | Recorded: December 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Conversations on Groong</em>, we welcome <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/giskajyan">Gev Iskajyan</a>, National Grassroots Director of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA). Gev reflects on the devastating blockade of Artsakh, the ethnic cleansing of its Armenian population, and the lasting impact on Armenian sovereignty and identity. With vivid firsthand accounts, Gev recounts the progression of the crisis, the exodus of over 120,000 Armenians, and the broader geopolitical implications.</p>
<p>This episode highlights the resilience of the Armenian people, the humanitarian tragedy that unfolded, and the urgent need for justice and accountability on an international scale.</p>
<hr>
<h2 id="topics-covered">Topics Covered</h2>
<h4 id="1-memories-of-the-artsakh-blockade"><strong>1. Memories of the Artsakh Blockade</strong></h4>
<ul>
<li>The escalation from gas and electricity cutoffs to total isolation.</li>
<li>Public reliance on Russian peacekeepers and the shifting perceptions of their role.</li>
<li>Reflections on the hopelessness as the blockade extended without resolution.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="2-ethnic-cleansing-and-mass-exodus"><strong>2. Ethnic Cleansing and Mass Exodus</strong></h4>
<ul>
<li>The chaos of September 2023: forced displacement, violent attacks, and loss of life.</li>
<li>The gas station explosion that killed over 200 people during the evacuation.</li>
<li>Psychological trauma and logistical challenges in resettling refugees.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="3-geopolitical-implications-and-advocacy"><strong>3. Geopolitical Implications and Advocacy</strong></h4>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan’s strategic goals and the response of global powers.</li>
<li>Luis Moreno Ocampo’s classification of the events as genocide.</li>
<li>Advocacy strategies for the Armenian diaspora in the U.S. and beyond.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="4-humanitarian-crisis"><strong>4. Humanitarian Crisis</strong></h4>
<ul>
<li>Housing, food shortages, and the emotional toll on displaced families.</li>
<li>Community solidarity and the role of NGOs in providing aid.</li>
<li>Stories of survival and resilience amid the chaos.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h2>
<ul>
<li>What were the critical moments that defined the Artsakh blockade?</li>
<li>How did the population of Artsakh perceive Russian peacekeepers during the crisis?</li>
<li>What were the immediate challenges faced by Armenians displaced from their homeland?</li>
<li>Can the events in Artsakh be classified as genocide, and what are the global implications?</li>
<li>What role can the Armenian diaspora play in advocating for justice and accountability?</li>
<li>How can international organizations and governments better respond to similar crises?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h2 id="guest-biography">Guest Biography</h2>
<p><strong>Gev Iskajyan</strong> is a seasoned advocate and activist, currently serving as the National Grassroots Director of ANCA. He previously served as the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of Artsakh, where he spearheaded initiatives to raise global awareness of Artsakh’s challenges and coordinated critical relief efforts.</p>
<p>Gev has held prominent roles with ANCA Western Region and the Armenian Youth Federation, organizing major initiatives like the 2015 ‘March for Justice.’ His commentary has appeared in Time Magazine, CNN, and BBC. Gev holds degrees in Political Science and Philosophy from California State Polytechnic University, Pomona.</p>
<h3 id="links-and-resources"><strong>Links and Resources</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/397/thumbnail-397.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/397/thumbnail-397.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16304117-ethnic-cleansing-of-artsakh-gev-iskajyan-reflects-on-survival-and-tragedy-ep-397-dec-18-2024.mp3" length="29248533" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2435</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Varuzhan Geghamyan on Syria, Armenia, and Turkey-Iran-Russia Tensions | Ep 396 - Dec 16, 2024
[EP396]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/396-varuzhan-geghamyan-syria-middle-east-armenia-south-caucasus-regional-power-dynamics/</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16286383-varuzhan-geghamyan-on-syria-armenia-and-turkey-iran-russia-tensions-ep-396-dec-16-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>396</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Varuzhan Geghamyan on Syria, Armenia, and Turkey-Iran-Russia Tensions | Ep 396 - Dec 16, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Syria and the Middle East
* The South Caucasus
* Turkey, Iran, Russia
Episode 396 | Recorded: December 13, 2024</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Syria and the Middle East
* The South Caucasus
* Turkey, Iran, Russia
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Syria and the Middle East
* The South Caucasus
* Turkey, Iran, Russia
Episode 396 | Recorded: December 13, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="1-syria-and-the-middle-east"><strong>1. Syria and the Middle East</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Syria’s Post-Conflict Path</strong>: Insights into shifting power structures and international negotiations shaping Syria’s trajectory.</li>
<li><strong>Turkey’s Expanding Role</strong>: From Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in Idlib to the Turkish-backed Syrian National Army (SNA), how Ankara asserts its influence.</li>
<li><strong>Proxy Wars in Action</strong>: Examining the clash between U.S.-backed Kurdish forces and Turkey-supported factions, and its impact on regional stability.</li>
<li><strong>Strategic Realignments</strong>: How Turkey’s involvement affects its relationships with Russia and Iran, signaling broader regional shifts.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="2-the-south-caucasus"><strong>2. The South Caucasus</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Syria’s Ripple Effects</strong>: How developments in the Middle East intersect with Armenia-Azerbaijan relations.</li>
<li><strong>Turkey’s Pan-Turanic Ambitions</strong>: Regional ramifications of Ankara’s goals, alongside Azerbaijan’s aggressive approach in negotiations.</li>
<li><strong>Iran’s Strategic Calculations</strong>: Evaluating Tehran’s &ldquo;red lines&rdquo; in Armenia and its stance on the so-called &ldquo;Zangezur corridor.&rdquo;</li>
<li><strong>Security and Diplomacy</strong>: Assessing how Middle Eastern conflicts influence Armenia’s regional standing.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="3-turkey-russia-iran"><strong>3. Turkey, Russia, Iran</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Tensions in Focus</strong>: How divergent interests over Syria strain Turkey, Russia, and Iran’s cooperation.</li>
<li><strong>The 3+3 Platform</strong>: Evaluating the survival of this initiative amid growing discord.</li>
<li><strong>Turkey’s Leverage</strong>: Moscow’s vulnerabilities in Syria and Ukraine provide Ankara with new bargaining power.</li>
<li><strong>Implications for Stability</strong>: Broader lessons for peace and conflict resolution across these intertwined regions.</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="key-questions-discussed"><strong>Key Questions Discussed</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li>What does the current balance of power in the Middle East reveal about shifting alliances?</li>
<li>Can Kurdish groups maintain U.S. support amid changing priorities?</li>
<li>How do the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict and Syria’s developments interconnect?</li>
<li>What strategies will Russia adopt in response to challenges in Ukraine and the Middle East?</li>
<li>Will Turkey-Iran-Russia tensions undermine broader cooperation?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="timestamps"><strong>Timestamps</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=0">00:00</a></strong> Introduction and Episode Overview</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=180">03:00</a></strong> Syria’s Post-War Landscape: Challenges and Opportunities</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=930">15:30</a></strong> Proxy Wars and Kurdish Autonomy: A Geopolitical Tug-of-War</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=1680">28:00</a></strong> The South Caucasus and Its Strategic Significance</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=2400">40:00</a></strong> Regional Power Dynamics: The Turkey-Iran-Russia Nexus</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=3000">50:00</a></strong> Key Takeaways and Reflections</li>
<li><strong><a href="https://youtu.be/zic4d4_QL_k?t=3300">55:00</a></strong> Closing Remarks and Future Outlook</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<h3 id="call-to-action"><strong>Call to Action</strong></h3>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/396/thumbnail-396.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/396/thumbnail-396.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16286383-varuzhan-geghamyan-on-syria-armenia-and-turkey-iran-russia-tensions-ep-396-dec-16-2024.mp3" length="43886057" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3654</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Larry C Johnson - Syria, South Caucasus, and Regional Power Dynamics | Ep 395, Dec 14, 2024
[EP395]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/395-larry-c-johnson-on-syria-south-caucasus-isr-intelligence-surveillance-reconnaissance-2020-war-on-nagorno-karabakh/</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16278205-larry-c-johnson-syria-south-caucasus-and-regional-power-dynamics-ep-395-dec-14-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>395</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Larry C Johnson - Syria, South Caucasus, and Regional Power Dynamics | Ep 395, Dec 14, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 12/14/2024
        
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#### Topics:
* Syria and the Middle East
* The South Caucasus
* Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
* 44-Day War and the ISR Factor
* Fueling Other Wars
Episode 395 | Recorded: December 12, 2024</itunes:summary><description>#### Groong Links:
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#### Topics:
* Syria and the Middle East
* The South Caucasus
* Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
* 44-Day War and the ISR Factor
* Fueling Other Wars
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* The South Caucasus
* Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance
* 44-Day War and the ISR Factor
* Fueling Other Wars
Episode 395 | Recorded: December 12, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="syria-and-the-middle-east">Syria and the Middle East</h2>
<p>So Syria happened… The terrorists are now forming a government in Syria.</p>
<p>Let’s cut to the chase.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did the Russian and Iranian intel services miss this, or do you think there were some backroom deals that maybe predetermined the current outcome?</li>
<li>Russia projects much of its power into the Mediterranean and North Africa through its naval base in Tartus. Reportedly they have reached an agreement with HTS to keep that base in Russian hands. Do you think that’s a sustainable agreement, and can Russia regain a foothold in the eastern Mediterranean if they lose that base?</li>
<li>What was Turkey’s role in this Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and their allies offensive?</li>
<li>How do you expect the situation in Syria to evolve?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-south-caucasus">The South Caucasus</h2>
<p>The South Caucasus remains a critical region where global and regional powers intersect, creating a volatile geopolitical environment. Following Azerbaijan’s attack on Nagorno-Karabakh in 2020, analysts warned of a potential escalation targeting the southern regions of Armenia, particularly the two southern provinces, Syunik and Vayots Dzor, which Turkey and Azerbaijan call their &ldquo;Zangezur corridor.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Azerbaijan and Turkey are adept at using global crises to initiate land grabs, just like they decided to start the 2020 war amidst COVID, and the US presidential elections. And of course Turkey’s involvement in Syria is another prime example of this “carpe diem” modus operandi. We should note that Azerbaijan’s president, Ilham Aliyev has <a href="https://president.az/en/articles/view/67501">joined</a> Erdogan in “congratulating” Syrians for the toppling of Assad.</p>
<p>Now the so-called “Zangezur corridor” holds strategic significance, not only for Azerbaijan and Turkey’s pan-Turanic ambitions but also for Israel, which maintains a close symbiotic relationship with Azerbaijan through arms and energy trade. Israel’s goal is to have military and intelligence assets right on Iran’s borders from every side possible, in this case its northern border.</p>
<ul>
<li>Leaked state department <a href="https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09BAKU20_a.html">memos</a> describe the externally visible part of the Israeli - Azerbaijan relationship as only the tip of the iceberg.</li>
</ul>
<p>Amidst all the developments in Syria, few analysts are paying much attention to what might happen next around Armenia. Only Douglas Macgregor, in a <a href="https://youtu.be/jEcoaMvlHcg?si=0zi8uyqFM26hnvBp">recent podcast with Daniel Davis</a>, brought up that threat.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Could what happened in Syria embolden Turkey and Azerbaijan to push for a territorial grab in Armenia, and create a de-facto corridor and adjacency for themselves?</li>
</ul>
<p>Iran is keenly aware of the pan-Turanic threat and has defined red lines around Armenia’s territorial integrity. Russia meanwhile suggested that its border guards be stationed on the corridor instead as defined in the Nov 9-10 statement which paused the 2020 war. Some analysts explain that Russia is primarily concerned about Ukraine and is not interested in opening a 2nd front. So their aim is to “freeze” the current situation and address the threats from Turkey-Azerbaijan perhaps in the future.</p>
<p>So Armenian watchers are quite concerned right now about what might happen if Turkey &amp; Azerbaijan try for a land grab in Armenia. Will Russia make another decision in favor of “not opening a 2nd front” and will Iran by itself be able to counter such a threat by itself?</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Should Russia be more concerned with a pan-Turanic project?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="intelligence-surveillance-reconnaissance">Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance</h2>
<p>In modern warfare, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) has become a cornerstone for achieving strategic and tactical dominance on the battlefield. As you highlighted in a 2023 <a href="https://sonar21.com/why-russia-is-decimating-the-ukraine-counter-offensive/">article</a> on your website, <a href="http://sonar21.com">sonar21.com</a>, ISR enables real-time situational awareness, facilitates precision strikes, and ensures efficient coordination of forces. In fact, you’ve likened it to the “<a href="https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eye_of_Sauron">Eye of Sauron</a>”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>In today’s high-tech battlefield, how critical is ISR in determining the outcome of a conflict? Can you give examples of recent wars where ISR played a decisive role?</li>
<li>NATO is known for its sophisticated ISR capabilities. Could you elaborate on how NATO integrates ISR into its military operations, and what makes its ISR network stand out compared to other global powers?</li>
<li>Do other world powers, like Russia, China, India, even Israel, have similar ISR capabilities?</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/cy/natohq/topics_111830.htm">NATO&rsquo;s Joint Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (JISR)</a> capabilities are vital for modern military operations, offering situational awareness across land, air, sea, space, and cyber domains. By integrating data from national assets like satellites and drones, NATO provides timely, accurate intelligence while promoting operational efficiency and member state interoperability.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Considering NATO&rsquo;s emphasis on the &ldquo;need to share&rdquo; over the &ldquo;need to know,&rdquo; what are the primary challenges the Alliance faces in achieving seamless ISR data sharing among member nations? Is this sharing done by default?</li>
<li>How does NATO address security concerns and technological constraints to facilitate effective intelligence sharing? Are there appropriate checks and balances and authorizations, to control inappropriate use of NATO resources?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="44-day-war-and-the-isr-factor">44-Day War and the ISR Factor</h2>
<p>Azerbaijan&rsquo;s war on Nagorno-Karabakh in 2020 reshaped the South Caucasus, leading to the ethnic cleansing of 150,000 Armenians. Unlike previous conflicts, analysts argue that Turkey&rsquo;s involvement was pivotal if not outright decisive. Notably, reports suggest that Armenian air defenses suffered significant losses within the first hour of the war through precision strikes, raising questions about Turkey&rsquo;s role and potential use of NATO ISR capabilities.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How plausible is it that Turkey leveraged NATO ISR resources and assets to assist Azerbaijan during the 2020 war on Nagorno-Karabakh?
<ul>
<li>Did they have tacit permission from NATO to proceed or was it solely a Turkish initiative?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How likely is it that Turkey, as a NATO member, could exploit interoperability protocols within the Alliance to gain access to ISR capabilities without explicit approval, potentially justifying their use as part of training or testing exercises? Could NATO&rsquo;s decentralized structure and reliance on trust among members inadvertently enable such actions?
<ul>
<li>Note: because if you recall, Turkey held military exercises with Azerbaijan right before the war, a bunch of F16s were deployed in Azerbaijan, and then they were not brought back to Turkey after the drills. In fact reportedly they patrolled the air space over Azerbaijan right along its border with Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>In your view, what evidence would be necessary to confirm or rule out NATO ISR involvement in Turkey&rsquo;s support for Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="fueling-other-wars">Fueling Other Wars</h2>
<p>Karen Kwiatkowski, who was our guest last week, <a href="https://youtu.be/4lTacGx0yzM">said</a> she believes that the Trump administration will cut financing to Ukraine but she also cautioned that the US deep state, which is much more powerful than Trump, will be able to divert the savings from Ukraine to other wars.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about Kwiatkowski’s concerns?
<ul>
<li>What are some of the other areas around the world, militarily, that are of interest to the US deep state?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>During his first term, Trump tried to pull out US forces out of Syria, which are protecting the US-allied Kurds there, but according to reports the deep state essentially went behind his back and did everything to prevent this from happening. Meanwhile, Turkish forces which are now on the ground in Syria are very much interested in pushing the Kurds out of the region. And in a recent <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/OSlsZq5qooU?si=y_d4PaibqMSNhb2G">interview</a> you said that you don’t think Trump will pull the remaining US forces out of Syria.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you elaborate for our listeners why you think Trump will keep US forces in Syria?</li>
<li>Does this present a risk for military confrontation between Turkish and US forces there?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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* Aliyev’s “New” Demands
* The Fall of Syria
* Georgia’s Post-Election Unrest
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* Aliyev’s “New” Demands
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* Remembering the 1988 Earthquake in Spitak, Armenia
* Aliyev’s “New” Demands
* The Fall of Syria
* Georgia’s Post-Election Unrest
* Civil Contract Disobedience
Episode 394 | Recorded: December 9, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="remembering-the-1988-earthquake-in-spitak-armenia">Remembering the 1988 Earthquake in Spitak, Armenia</h2>
<p>&ldquo;Ils sont tombés, sans trop savoir pourquoi&rdquo; — Charles Aznavour’s poignant lyrics remind us of the tragedy that united Armenians after the devastating Spitak earthquake on December 7, 1988. Last week marked 36 years since the catastrophe that claimed tens of thousands of lives and rallied Armenians worldwide, with Aznavour leading global relief efforts through concerts and the Aznavour Foundation.</p>
<p>Yet the scars of Spitak endure, as the government failed to fully utilize diaspora support, leaving the earthquake zone still not fully rebuilt. Remembering this tragedy should inspire unity today, urging Armenia’s leaders to rally Armenians globally to rebuild and strengthen the nation.</p>
<p>Let’s use this week to reflect on how each of us has a role in rebuilding Armenia.</p>
<h2 id="aliyevs-new-demands">Aliyev&rsquo;s “New” Demands</h2>
<p>The latest in the saga of the so-called “negotiations”&hellip;</p>
<p>Aliyev explicitly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33228084.html">said</a> that Armenia must negotiate with the “Western Azerbaijan” community in order to ensure the “dignified return to their ancestral lands.” Even though Aliyev voiced these demands himself for the first time, it is clear that the Azerbaijani government was preparing for this move a long time ago.</p>
<p>On the Armenian side, the issue has largely been kept outside of the public attention, although there are various <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/kKYMnqRzWzI?si=LcmT82SZBSiz-7D6&amp;t=546">media reports</a> that Philip Reeker has been or had been (in his role as a co-chair) involved in discussions with the Armenian NGO sector on the so-called “return” of Azerbaijanis to Armenia.</p>
<p>Let’s also not forget that recently Pashinyan, in an interview, brought up the topic of “Western Azerbaijan” completely out of the blue, which roused the suspicion of many observers. He drew a parallel between the genuine state-sponsored expansionist efforts by Azerbaijan who spread maps of “Western Azerbaijan” which - for our listeners - is Armenia’s sovereign territory and Armenian historical references to “Western Armenia”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it possible that this issue has been agreed upon or negotiated by Pashinyan with Aliyev and has been deliberately kept away from the minds of the Armenian public?
<ul>
<li>Why is a US official in Armenia discussing this issue with NON-elected groups?</li>
<li>What is the role of these “Civil Society” groups in these talks?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is the role of the US playing in this?</li>
<li>With Pashinyan’s “Western Azerbaijan” statement in his interview, is this an indication that the Armenian government is slowly trying to bring this issue to the forefront?</li>
<li>Is it possible that this point is one of the yet-to-be-agreed point</li>
<li>Can Aliyev use this threat as a pretext for his next invasion of Armenia, in order to “resettle” Azerbaijanis in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>During a meeting of the OSCE FMs in Malta, Secretary of State Blinken proposed to Armenia and Azerbaijan to continue peace talk with US mediation, but Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33228166.html">categorically rejected</a> this offer, because Azerbaijan now regards the US, or at least this administration, to be biased and pro-Armenian.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Azerbaijan rejecting US efforts, or is it biding its time until the Trump administration moves in?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-fall-of-syria">The Fall of Syria</h2>
<p>Last week we discussed the terrorist operation against the Syrian government in the north of Syria. It caught Bashar al-Assad’s government by surprise, and it looked like it also caught Iranian and Russian intel by surprise as well. Everyone expected that the Syrian army would rebound, kick in and fight back.</p>
<p>This week the whole operation ended after Aleppo, Hama, Homs and Damascus fell in the past few days, and Assad and his family took refuge in Moscow. Additionally, it looks like the operation may not have been a surprise for Russia (at least), but possibly an agreed upon “special operation”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What happened in Syria? Why did it fold so quickly?</li>
<li>Why didn’t the Russians or Iranians intervene?</li>
<li>Is it possible that Russia “conceded” Syria, because it’s too busy in Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<p>This overall operation seems to have been planned and tactically guided by Turkey, and assisted by US and Israeli intelligence and guidance. In a sense I can not but see the parallels between this and the 44-day war.</p>
<p>After the fall of Damascus, Israel is now essentially directly on the Iraqi border, which is basically a very porous line in the sand. So it’s much closer to Iran. And of course Israel is also on Azerbaijan’s southern border with Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does the situation in Syria mean for Iran, and for Armenian what does it portend about Iran’s ability to deter Azerbaijan in case it invades Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgias-post-election-unrest">Georgia’s Post-Election Unrest</h2>
<p>Post-election unrest <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/tbilisi-eu-kohakhidze-zurabishvili/33224688.html">continues</a> in Tbilisi. President Salome Zourabichvili continues to lead pro-Western civil society types to demand the annulment of the election results which gave Georgian Dream a parliamentary majority. They have set a presidential election date which is next weekend, December 14.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you compare the protests in the Georgian elections with protests in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>In Armenia, during various protests, authorities used force and stun grenades.</li>
<li>In Georgia, the protests were violent, using fireworks against police and shining lasers in the eyes of the police. And these protests were called “peaceful” by foreign embassies, who condemned “brutality” by the police.</li>
<li>During the “Resistance Movement” protest, there were days when authorities arrested more than 500 people in one day. Yet, silence from foreign embassies.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Will the Georgian government be able to survive this obviously foreign influenced mass protests?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="civil-contract-disobedience">Civil Contract Disobedience</h2>
<p>In November Pashinyan text-fired a number of his friends and colleagues from their government positions. Some were glaringly inappropriate, for example Karen Andresyan, as the head of the Supreme Judicial Court (SJC), should at least theoretically have been independent of the executive branch and immune from demands to resign. But Andreasyan’s subservient resignation proved that there are no checks and balances in the various branches of the Armenian government: executive, legislative, or judicial. On the legislative side, MP Hovik Aghazaryan was the one recipient of the texts who <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33228302.html">refused to comply</a>.</p>
<p>Aghazaryan is no angel, and Pashinyan seems to have plenty of Kompromat on him, and reportedly he has been summoned to the Anti-Corruption Committee (ACC), his mobile devices were confiscated for investigation, and surprise, the data was shared with Pashinyan, and he then shared it with the ruling party leadership. Aghazaryan is now allegedly being <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33229466.html">blackmailed</a> for his refusal to resign.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we seeing cracks appear in the ranks of the Civil Contract ruling party?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hrant</strong>: The Syrian situation is very important for Armenia. Pay attention to it!</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: When Assad was in Armenia in 2009, Serge Sargsyan warned him “My friend, you don’t know the Turks well. But time will tell.” Sargsyan’s quote is taken from <a href="https://newmag.am/am/book/alone-vs-fate">Միայնակ ընդդեմ ճակատագրի</a>, by <a href="https://newmag.am/am/author/samvel-farmanyan">Սամվել Ֆարմանյան</a><!-- raw HTML omitted -->.<!-- raw HTML omitted --></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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* Trump’s “Eastern Approaches”
* The Maidan Massacre and Its Legacy
* Maidanization of Georgia?
* Armenia in the Shadow of Ukraine
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* Trump’s “Eastern Approaches”
* The Maidan Massacre and Its Legacy
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* Armenia in the Shadow of Ukraine
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* Armenia in the Shadow of Ukraine
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<p>Prof. Katchanowski, since this is your first time on our podcast, can you summarize for our listeners your research interests and your past academic work?</p>
<h2 id="the-war-in-ukraine">The War in Ukraine</h2>
<p>We’ll dive into your book in a moment, but first let’s focus on what is happening today on the ground in Ukraine.</p>
<p>The war in Ukraine has been raging for nearly three years now. The advance of the Russian forces, while initially modest, has been accelerating, and they are now moving forward tens of kilometers per day.</p>
<p>You’ve been assembling a count of casualties from the war and <a href="https://x.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1864883515998752812">sharing</a> that on Twitter.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the latest figures, and how do they reflect the human cost of the conflict?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ukrainian-fates-and-lost-opportunities">Ukrainian Fates and Lost Opportunities</h3>
<p>The parties were very close to signing a ceasefire in March 2022, less than 2 weeks into the war. Yet, it is common knowledge that Boris Johnson personally intervened and urged Zelensky not to agree.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was on the table in Istanbul in March 2022 and why did Zelensky withdraw from the agreement?
<ul>
<li>Was that a rational choice at the time?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Given the continuing losses of lives and territory, with the trajectory of the war, why is Zelensky continuing the war?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="personal-reflections">Personal Reflections</h3>
<p>Hovik: I spent many childhood summers in Donetsk and I recall it as a tranquil and beautiful place. You yourself are from Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe how this conflict has personally affected you and your family?</li>
<li>Have you been able to visit Ukraine recently, despite your criticisms of Zelensky&rsquo;s policies?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="trumps-eastern-approaches">Trump’s “Eastern Approaches”</h2>
<p>US President-elect Donald Trump famously pledged to end the war in Ukraine in “24 hours” after becoming president. Yet, we’re seeing that he’s stacking his cabinet with neocon appointments. Trump appointed Keith Kellogg, an 80 year old retired general who has <a href="https://kyivindependent.com/trumps-pick-for-ukraine-envoy-backs-peace-through-strength-security-guarantees/">backed</a> the “peace through strength” narrative, and that if Putin doesn’t agree with Trump, the US will arm Ukraine exponentially more, etc.</p>
<p>Still it is clear that negotiations are already going on. For example we’ve read that Zelensky has floated a “territory for NATO membership” type deal to Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, Prof. Katchanovski, what do you think, could Trump seriously end the war within 24 hours? Is the prospect for a negotiated peace realistic anytime soon, in light of current developments?</li>
<li>How do you assess the most recent actions of the Biden administration in relation to Ukraine, following Trump’s election?</li>
<li>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky flew to Paris today to <a href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/12/07/trump-zelensky-meet-in-paris-as-macron-hosts-three-way-talks_6735534_4.html">meet</a> with Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron.  What do you expect from this visit?  What is Zelensky hoping to gain?</li>
<li>What would constitute a durable ceasefire or negotiated peace deal at this point, in your view?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-maidan-massacre-and-its-legacies">The Maidan Massacre and Its Legacies</h2>
<p>Professor, in your book <a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-67121-0">The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine</a>, (link in show notes) you dive deep into the Maidan movement, starting in November 2013, which was sparked by Ukraine’s abrupt decision to suspend its association agreement with the European Union, favoring closer ties with Russia instead.</p>
<p>What began as peaceful demonstrations escalated into violent confrontations, culminating in the February 2014 Maidan Massacre. This mass killing led to the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych and significantly altered Ukraine&rsquo;s political trajectory.</p>
<p>Your research has been pivotal in analyzing these events, offering insights that challenge mainstream narratives.</p>
<h3 id="context">Context</h3>
<p>The focal point of your book of course is the Maidan massacres in Ukraine, resulting in the deaths of more than a 100 people. But it didn’t happen out of the blue.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Maybe you can walk us through what was happening in the months leading up to the Maidan massacre and the toppling of Yanukovych?</li>
<li>How powerful or significant a force is the “far right” in Ukraine?</li>
<li>In November 2013, in the months before the Maidan in Ukraine, Armenian president Serzh Sargsyan was faced with an “all-or-nothing” choice by the EU with regard to the EU’s Eastern Partnership “Association Agreement.” However, in the end, Sargsyan managed to strike a balance, by pursuing membership in the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union, while also maintaining ties with Brussels.  Ukraine’s Yanukovych was faced with a similar situation, but the outcome, as we know, was dramatically different. Why was this the case?</li>
<li>What was the EU’s “Eastern Partnership”? What factors influenced the EU’s “Eastern policy” toward former Soviet republics like Ukraine and Armenia?  Why wasn’t Russia offered such an agreement?</li>
<li>What kind of a deal was the EU offering Ukraine?  What were the terms?</li>
<li>In your view, was the Maidan movement a coup sponsored by external powers?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="events">Events</h3>
<p>The key events of the Maidan movement include the initial protests in November 2013, the violent clashes in January 2014, and the Maidan Massacre in February 2014. The massacre resulted in the deaths of protesters and police officers, toppling Yanukovych’s government and shifting Ukraine’s political alignment.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What evidence from your research challenges the mainstream narrative of the Maidan Massacre?</li>
<li>Who were the Georgian snipers, and how do their accounts influence the interpretation of the massacre?  What was the role of Mikheil Saakashvili?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="politics-of-publication">Politics of publication</h3>
<p>You initially released the book electronically, available for all to read. The hardcover was published by Palgrave Macmillan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What motivated you to ensure free access to the electronic version of your book?</li>
<li>Did you encounter problems in publishing a book with findings that challenge the mainstream narrative?</li>
<li>What kind of feedback have you received from readers in Ukraine, Russia, and the West?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="maidanization-of-georgia">Maidanization of Georgia?</h2>
<p>Over the past few weeks, we saw mass protests in Georgia. The focus of the unrest is the ruling party Georgian Dream’s relations with the West. In October, the party won a decisive victory in the elections, the results of which are not being recognized by the pro-West opposition.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>On social media, a video has recently surfaced showing representatives of the Georgian opposition handing out cookies in Tbilisi. The image seems all too familiar. Do you believe that the fervor with which the West is pushing the Georgian opposition could lead to a “Maidanization” of the situation in Tbilisi?  What is your assessment?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-in-the-shadow-of-ukraine">Armenia in the Shadow of Ukraine</h2>
<p>Lastly, Armenia under Nikol Pashinyan is currently attempting a geopolitical pivot westward, aligning itself with Western powers, namely the United States and France, while trying to move away from its traditional alliances with Russia and Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>As a political scientist, how do you assess Pashinyan’s attempted pivot?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-67121-0">The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine</a>, Ivan Katchanovski, 2024</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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<h2 id="introducing-karen-kwiatkowski">Introducing Karen Kwiatkowski</h2>
<p>Although this is your first time on our podcast, your reputation certainly precedes you. You’re a widely respected expert on military intelligence and a vocal critic of flawed U.S. foreign policies over the years. As a founding member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), you’ve worked to expose the misuse of intelligence to justify war.</p>
<p>During your distinguished Air Force career, you served as a Pentagon desk officer and worked with the National Security Agency (NSA). But it was your bold critiques—especially your essays exposing political corruption in military intelligence leading up to the 2003 Iraq War—that cemented your place as an important voice in this field.</p>
<p>For those who may not be familiar with your story, can you share a bit about your background? Specifically, how did you come to oppose the false intelligence that was used to justify the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003?</p>
<p>Earlier this year, Kwiatkowski penned a 3-part article series in The American Conservative:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/in-rumsfelds-shop/">In Rumsfeld’s Shop</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/conscientious-objector/">Conscientious Objector</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/open-door-policy/">Open Door Policy</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="birth-of-a-unipolar-world">Birth of a Unipolar World</h2>
<p>The world is witnessing multiple conflicts that are reshaping regional and global dynamics. In Ukraine, a brutal war continues as Russia and the West compete for influence. In the Middle East, the ongoing war in Gaza has brought immense devastation, with over 45,000 Palestinians killed, the majority of them being women and children.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Lebanon has just seen a ceasefire agreement after intense fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, albeit even that ceasefire was violated at least 52 times according to the government of France.</p>
<p>At the same time, in Syria, Turkish-backed forces have attacked major cities in the north, threatening total regional instability.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>First, since you specialize in intelligence, can you tell us what is the role of the United States in shaping Ukraine’s strategy, particularly in terms of <strong>intelligence</strong> and its sharing with Ukrainian forces?</li>
<li>Are these conflicts that we’re witnessing—Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia, Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and other global conflicts—interconnected, and how?</li>
<li>Are we witnessing the painful birth of a new world order? And what will be the role of the US and the US military power in that new world order?</li>
</ul>
<hr>
<h2 id="44-day-war-and-the-intelligence-factor">44-Day War and the Intelligence Factor</h2>
<p>Azerbaijan’s 44-day war in 2020 over Nagorno-Karabakh reshaped the South Caucasus and underscored the impact of foreign involvement in modern conflicts. The war led to the ethnic cleansing of 150,000 Armenians from their homeland in Nagorno-Karabakh.</p>
<p>Some suggest the 2020 war was a Western trap for Russia. Scholar Glenn Diesen on our podcast (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/359">Episode 359</a>) noted Russia’s dilemma: intervening for Armenia risked tensions with Turkey and Azerbaijan, while non-involvement damaged its reputation as Armenia’s ally. A 2019 RAND <a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html">report</a> titled <em>Extending Russia</em> discussed “exploiting tensions in the South Caucasus” to strain Russia’s resources.</p>
<p>Another point that may interest you in that now infamous report talks about the attractiveness of Azerbaijan’s geographic position as a “prime location” for intelligence gathering.</p>
<p>Post-2020, Russia’s influence in Armenia has declined sharply. Armenia’s government partly blames Russia for the loss and has pivoted toward the West, aligning with the outcomes predicted in the RAND report.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>We realize your focus as an expert may not be on Armenia, do you have any thoughts on this? In your opinion, what was the US and Western role here, a simple innocent bystander that was powerless to prevent the war and subsequent ethnic cleansing, an unwilling beneficiary, or potentially worse?</li>
<li>What broader lessons can be drawn about local conflicts being used as tools in global power rivalries? Given your experience in Africa, can you point to similarities with other countries or regions there?</li>
</ul>
<p>The conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh has been going on for 3 decades. During that time, there have been various attempts to test the strength of Karabakh’s defences by Azerbaijan, including a war in 2016. Yet, Azerbaijan was not able to achieve success. Many analysts that we’ve talked to argue that Turkey’s involvement in this war (as opposed to previous cases) was the key determinant of the outcome.</p>
<p>While Turkey didn’t commit a huge amount of troops:</p>
<ul>
<li>Turkey sent Syrian mercenaries to Azerbaijan</li>
<li>There were reports about Turkish special forces taking part</li>
<li>Four or more Turkish generals were incorporated into the Azerbaijani armed forces</li>
<li>The “drone war” was reportedly led by Turkey from AWACS aircraft on Turkish territory</li>
<li>Erdogan took part (along with Aliyev) at a parade in Baku celebrating “their victory”</li>
<li>Erdogan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33055076.html">boasted</a> of that involvement, when he threatened Israel with the fate of Karabakh</li>
</ul>
<p>One aspect of Turkey’s involvement in the 44-day war remains particularly opaque: its role in the initial operational success achieved by Azerbaijan. In the opening moments of the conflict, Azerbaijani forces were able to destroy a significant portion of Armenian air defense systems and other critical targets, a victory widely attributed to their access to advanced intelligence. Many analysts suggest that Turkey’s contributions in terms of ISR—Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance—were as vital as its other forms of support it provided.</p>
<p>Turkey, with the second-largest army in NATO, is a formidable military power in its own right. However, the question arises: were Turkey’s own ISR capabilities sufficient to enable such a decisive initial strike? Or did Turkey leverage its NATO membership to access the alliance’s collective ISR resources under the joint ISR program?</p>
<p>While it’s unlikely NATO would disclose details of its intelligence-sharing practices, the possibility of Turkey utilizing NATO’s assets raises important questions. Could Turkey have accessed NATO’s ISR resources without at least tacit approval from the alliance? And if approval was required, could this imply that NATO, in some capacity, encouraged, facilitated and influenced the outcome of the war against Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>How would an investigative journalist or analyst approach uncovering the extent of Turkey’s ISR contributions during the war?</li>
<li>How do NATO countries manage the sharing of ISR resources, and could Turkey have leveraged NATO’s collective ISR power to support Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>If Turkey utilized NATO’s ISR assets, does that suggest NATO indirectly guided the war effort against Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh?</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 391 | Recorded: December 4, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="syria-cop29-armenia">Syria, COP29, Armenia</h1>
<p>Professor Sachs, you were recently in Armenia and Azerbaijan and we’re eager to hear your experiences. We initially wanted to focus on your visit to Armenia, but world events compel us to take a short detour.</p>
<h2 id="escalation-in-syria">Escalation in Syria</h2>
<p>Just as there seemed to be hope for a respite in Lebanon with a cease fire deal, which by the way is being violated daily by Israel, terrorist groups, some of whom enjoy the support, if not patronage, of Turkey, Israel and the US commenced an attack in Syria, taking control of the Aleppo and some surrounding towns and areas. Thus, a six year fragile peace that was agreed upon by Turkey, Iran, and Russia in <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/30/syrian-war-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-astana-talks">Astana</a> in 2017 was violated, increasing the instability in the region.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the timing of this attack, occurring immediately after the Lebanon ceasefire purely coincidental?
<ul>
<li>What motivated Turkey, Israel and the US to open this new front? Specifically, what do you think motivated Erdogan to join this NATO plan, given his relations with Putin?</li>
<li>How related do you think this escalation is to the general war in Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>It appears that the attack took Russia, Iran and even the Syrian government by surprise. Iranian proxy forces from Iraq are also being committed to help the Syrian regime in a counterattack, supported by the Russian air force. While it is clear that this attack couldn’t have happened without extensive support from the West and sponsorship by Turkey, the <a href="https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-tells-erdogan-of-need-for-speedy-end-to-syria-rebel-offensive-4ca46cd9">readout</a> from a recent phone conversation between Putin and Erdogan stopped short of the Kremlin accusing Turkey and instead underscored the need for cooperation to “normalize” the situation. Iranian <a href="https://en.mfa.ir/portal/newsview/757552">statements</a> about the matter were also more or less diplomatic.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a signal that Russia and Iran are willing to accept this change in the status quo and potentially urge the Syrian government to negotiate and give concessions to Turkey?
<ul>
<li>If so, does this continue a pattern of appeasement of dictators?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>NOTES FROM THE DISCUSSION:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sachs highlighted the historical role of the US and Israel in destabilizing Syria.</li>
<li>Turkey’s participation was influenced by Kurdish concerns and geopolitical aspirations.</li>
<li>Russia, Iran, and Syria were caught off guard but seem reluctant to escalate tensions with Turkey.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="cop29-and-beyond">COP29 and Beyond</h2>
<h3 id="in-azerbaijan">In Azerbaijan</h3>
<p>Professor Sachs, recently you traveled to Azerbaijan to attend COP29 in Baku. Your university, Columbia, was <a href="https://www.climate.columbia.edu/cop29">involved</a> in a number of panels at the conference as well.</p>
<p>Also visiting COP29 were US congressmen including Frank Pallone and Ed Markey. Aliyev outright refused to meet with Congressman Pallone, who in fact had to cut his trip short due to the attacks on him.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How were your interactions with the Azerbaijani government, were there opportunities for you to discuss Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations with any high-level officials?</li>
<li>What were your overall impressions of your visit to Baku?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan is a dictatorship that suppresses free speech; jails or kills opposition members and journalists; ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh from its 150,000 indigenous Armenians just 15 months ago; it is a petro-state mega-polluter. Armenia withdrew its veto on holding COP29 in Baku, with the hopes that it would advance some goodwill and trust in the so-called peace negotiations with Azerbaijan, but that didn’t happen.</p>
<p>Despite token condemnations, world governments and organizations continue to engage with Baku, with European nations relying on Russian gas rerouted through Azeri pipelines and rebranded as “Azerbaijani Gas”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is it that the UN is willing to accept such a place as the venue for its COP conferences?</li>
<li>Is the pattern of appeasing dictators a symptom of the breakdown of the international rule of law, during these times when we seem to be evolving into a new world order? Do we expect rogue behavior to die down in a more balanced, multipolar world?</li>
</ul>
<p>NOTES FROM THE DISCUSSION:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sachs clarified his participation was unrelated to Azerbaijani politics, emphasizing the global nature of UN climate meetings and defended the UN&rsquo;s approach to inclusivity.</li>
<li>Armenia’s withdrawal of its veto for Baku hosting COP29 did not yield significant goodwill from Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="in-armenia">In Armenia</h3>
<p>From Baku you went to Yerevan to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xSrQkZGa_wU">talk to students at the AUA</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the purpose of your brief visit to Armenia?</li>
<li>Besides giving public talks and hopefully doing some sightseeing, were you able to meet any Armenian officials?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia is caught in the proxy war between the West and Russia, and both sides are pushing Armenia into compromises that undermine its national security, to the benefit of their sides. With Nagorno-Karabakh depopulated, the pro-western Armenian government is now interested in breaking out of its traditional alliance with Russia. It is also approaching relations with Iran very cautiously.</p>
<p>Given Armenia’s current geopolitical pivot, in your interviews in Armenian media, you cautioned against pinning hopes on the US.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you elaborate on your message? What would be a mutually beneficial US policy towards Armenia?</li>
<li>How should Armenia navigate the current geopolitical environment?</li>
</ul>
<p>NOTES FROM THE DISCUSSION:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sachs stressed the importance of regional diplomacy, warning against relying on the US for salvation.</li>
<li>Suggested Armenia focus on pragmatic relationships with neighbors and resist unrealistic concessions in negotiations.</li>
<li>Advocated for stronger regional cooperation through initiatives like BRICS and track-two diplomacy.</li>
<li>Sachs critiqued the broader Western strategy of encircling Russia, referencing Zbigniew Brzezinski’s book The Grand Chessboard (1997).</li>
<li>Brzezinski argued that controlling Eurasia was key to maintaining US global dominance and predicted that Russia would have no choice but to submit to Western influence. Sachs highlighted how this theory failed:
<ul>
<li>Brzezinski underestimated Russia’s resilience and willingness to form alliances, particularly with China, to counteract Western encirclement.</li>
<li>The assumption that Russia would quietly accept diminished influence in its traditional spheres of power was flawed, leading instead to increased tensions and confrontational geopolitics, as seen in Ukraine and the South Caucasus.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Previous interviews to Armenian media by Sachs:</p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur Khachikyan: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/xSrQkZGa_wU">https://www.youtube.com/live/xSrQkZGa_wU</a></li>
<li>AUA: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/HMpzu6OVb9o">https://www.youtube.com/live/HMpzu6OVb9o</a></li>
<li>168: <a href="https://youtu.be/TvxjbpqguTs?si=unf1K42rZK9tzvVH">https://youtu.be/TvxjbpqguTs?si=unf1K42rZK9tzvVH</a></li>
<li>Azatutyun: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1UiRIyU_0o">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1UiRIyU_0o</a></li>
<li>Armenian Public TV: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgoBDo-0B-U">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgoBDo-0B-U</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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* Azerbaijan Slams Polish President in Armenia
* Developments in the Middle East
* Post-election Developments in Georgia
* Russian Intel Warnings to Armenia
Episode 390 | Recorded: December 2, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="cop29-post-mortem">COP29 Post-Mortem</h2>
<p>The long-ballyhood PR-stunt that was COP29 in Baku came and went with November.</p>
<p>Last year, following COP28 in Dubai, Armenia chose not to veto Azerbaijan&rsquo;s bid to host COP29, allowing its proposal to be accepted.</p>
<p>Despite some nations not attending the conference, others sending only low-level representatives, and even despite Greta Thunberg <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/greta-thunberg-azerbaijan-cop-climate/33196896.html">contributing</a> to the awareness raising campaign, Azerbaijan claimed that the event was a success.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did Aliyev achieve what he was hoping to get out of COP29?</li>
<li>What did Armenia get for agreeing to let COP29 take place in Baku?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-slams-polish-president">Azerbaijan Slams Polish President</h2>
<p>Two weeks ago outgoing Polish president Andrzej Duda was in Baku at COP29, and this past week he <a href="https://tvpworld.com/83686082/poland-ready-to-help-stabilize-armenia-azerbaijan-relations">visited</a> Yerevan, <a href="https://oc-media.org/polish-president-affirms-plans-to-deepen-ties-with-armenia/">affirmed</a> strong relations between Poland and Armenia, and so on. More importantly, he visited the EU Mission in Armenia on the borders with Yerevan, and Baku took deep offense and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33219344.html">slammed</a> him for provocative, anti-Azerbaijani activities from the leader of a country that has a strategic partnership with them.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the root cause of Azerbaijan’s anger here?</li>
<li>Where do the talks stand, given that Azerbaijan did not concede anything to make it possible for Pashinyan or anyone from his government to attend COP29?</li>
<li>The term of the EUMA expires in February 2025, why hasn’t Armenia extended it?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Armenian-Azerbaijani talks over this so-called “peace agreement” have mostly stalled in the past month or more, waiting to see how COP29 would turn out and also how the US presidential election would shake out. Those are behind us now. There was a lot of talk at one point that Azerbaijan might initiate a new war after COP29.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the current risk of such hostilities?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="developments-in-the-middle-east">Developments in the Middle East</h2>
<p>This past Tuesday Israel and Lebanon reached a<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/middleeast/visual-guide-map-israel-hezbollahs-ceasefire-intl-dg"> ceasefire</a> agreement. Despite dozens of Israeli violations of the agreement, for now it seems to have slowed down the hostilities and bombing of the towns and civilians in Lebanon.</p>
<p>The day after the agreement,<a href="https://www.csis.org/programs/former-programs/warfare-irregular-threats-and-terrorism-program-archives/terrorism-backgrounders/hayat-tahrir"> terrorists</a> supported by Turkey, the so-called “moderate Syrian opposition,” went on a large-scale offensive in Northeastern Syria.</p>
<p>Syria’s weakness draws both Russia and Iran into a new conflict where their interests would clash with Israel and Turkey. We’ve discussed that such efforts could distract Iran from defending its interests in the north, for example Armenia’s sovereignty over Syunik.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can the situation in and around Syria lead to a worsening of Turkish-Russian relations?</li>
<li>Has the potential for war against Iran increased? Some analysts believe the deal with Lebanon allows Israel to focus more on a war on Iran, but Israel alone could not confront Iran without drawing in the United States. So that also brings in the question of what a new Trump administration would do in the region.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="post-election-developments-in-georgia">Post-election Developments in Georgia</h2>
<p>Post-election Georgia is seeing mounting unrest, led by president Salome Zourabichvili who rejects the election results from a month ago, and wants them annulled. In the past week some of the demonstrations bordered on violence, as the new parliament set the date for the next presidential election to December 14, 2024.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see the situation in Georgia developing? Can Zurabishvili prevent Georgian Dream from holding presidential elections, and hold on to her seat?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="unrest-in-abkhazia">Unrest in Abkhazia</h3>
<p>Also in the past two weeks there have been protests in Abkhazia, where political unrest<a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/abkhazia-protests/"> erupted</a> over opposition to a Russian investment agreement allowing property purchases by Russians. Protests intensified and led to the resignation of Abkhaz President Aslan Bzhania on November 19. A snap presidential election is set for February 15, 2025, to restore stability.</p>
<p>Armenia has a strategic interest in seeing the Abkhaz Railway open again, because it is a key route for Armenian trade relations with Russia. Currently that trade is done through the highly un-resilient Stepantsminda-Lars pass.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What scenarios in Georgia, Abkhazia and Russia could lead to this railway reopening for the first time since 2008?</li>
<li>Is there a potential for Turkey and Azerbaijan to co-opt this railway to connect exclusively to the east-west Baku-Tbilisi-Kars rail lines, instead of connecting south towards Armenia as well?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-svr-warnings">Russia SVR Warnings</h2>
<p>Relations between Russia and Armenia don’t show any sign of improvement.</p>
<p>Several developments from last week:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia, once again <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/russia_regrets_armenia_s_absence_at_csto_summit_in_minsk/?sphrase_id=1135308">refused</a> to attend the CSTO summit which took place last week.</li>
<li>The EAEU Summit, which was expected to be held in Yerevan this year (as Armenia is holding the rotating presidency) was <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1206129">moved</a> to Moscow.</li>
<li>Pashinyan told Armenian Public TV that he might support efforts to have a referendum on joining the EU.</li>
<li>And lastly, in the duration of 10 days, the Russian external intelligence service published two documents on Armenia:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://tass.com/politics/1878227">US launches promotion of Armenia’s pro-Western parties</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33191927.html">Russia Claims U.S. Pushes Armenia ‘To Commit National Suicide’</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Over the recent months, some Armenian commentators were predicting that seeing indifference towards Armenia from the west and Russian fortunes in the war in Ukraine increasing, Pashinyan could make overtures towards repairing the strained relations between Armenia and Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see the trajectory in Armenian-Russian relations?</li>
<li>How realistic is the desire of some Armenians to join the EU? Is this truly a serious topic for consideration?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/390/thumbnail-390.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/390/thumbnail-390.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16223539-benyamin-poghosyan-cop29-post-mortem-azerbaijan-slams-polish-president-developments-in-the-middle-east-post-election-georgia-russian-armenian-relations-ep-390-dec-1-2024.mp3" length="43622701" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3632</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Yeghia Tashjian - Israel-Hezbollah Ceasefire in Lebanon and Escalation in Syria | Ep 389 - Dec 2, 2024
[EP389]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/389-yeghia-tashjian-lebanon-israel-cease-fire-syria-escalation-armenian-communities/</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2024 12:00:01 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16211590-yeghia-tashjian-israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-in-lebanon-and-escalation-in-syria-ep-389-dec-2-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
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Episode 389 | Recorded: December 1, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 389 | Recorded: December 1, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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* Escalation in Syria
* Effect on Armenian Communities
Episode 389 | Recorded: December 1, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-in-lebanon">Israel-Hezbollah Ceasefire in Lebanon</h2>
<p>Two months ago Israel started bombing Lebanon, and from there it got much worse with daily bombings of Beirut and other major civilian areas, and finally a damaging invasion into South Lebanon. This past Tuesday’s <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/middleeast/visual-guide-map-israel-hezbollahs-ceasefire-intl-dg">ceasefire</a> agreement between Israel and Hezbollah was welcome news.</p>
<p>Briefly, the <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/389/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-UNSCR-1701.pdf">ceasefire agreement</a> requires Hezbollah to retreat north of the Litani river, approximately 40 km north of the Israeli border; Israel leaves Lebanon; Lebanese armed forces and UN peacekeepers take over in south Lebanon, south of the Litani. Both sides are claiming victory and the chief commander of the IRGC has <a href="https://x.com/MehrnewsCom/status/1862067648495788218">congratulated</a> Hezbollah on their success.</p>
<p>Some details known to us are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hezbollah will agree to move North of the Litani river</li>
<li>Lebanon’s regular army and security forces will be the only military in Southern lebanon</li>
<li>Israel will gradually withdraw to the blue line within 60 days</li>
<li>Return to UNSC Resolution 1701</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who managed this ceasefire, and what’s your assessment of it?</li>
<li>There were conflicting reports whether the cease fire was permanent or temporary? What’s your take?</li>
<li>Hezbollah exists to put pressure on Israel, to come to terms with the Palestinian cause. Will Hezbollah be satisfied remaining north of the Litani in the long term?
<ul>
<li>And how will this be reflected in internal Lebanese politics?</li>
<li>Does Lebanon have the necessary armed forces to keep Hezbollah sticking to the agreement?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>All this is happening as the hawkish Trump administration is weeks away from taking power in the United States. How does the Trump factor play in all of this?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="effect-on-war-in-gaza">Effect on War in Gaza</h2>
<p>While the ceasefire with Hezbollah does not mention Gaza, where over 45,000 Palestinians have been killed, with over 70% of them being women and children, in fact it may be giving Israel more freedom to continue its genocide, since the threat from Hezbollah rocket attacks will apparently be diminished.</p>
<p>The incoming Trump administration has made hawkish pro-Israeli appointments, and we already know its posture from the time of the first Trump administration.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can this ceasefire be seen by Hamas, or the Palestinian people, as an abandonment of their cause?</li>
<li>Where do you expect the war in Gaza to go from here?</li>
<li>Do you have a sense of how Trump’s policies will evolve towards Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and the entire middle east?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="escalation-in-syria">Escalation in Syria</h2>
<p>Just as the cease fire in Lebanon took effect, <a href="https://www.csis.org/programs/former-programs/warfare-irregular-threats-and-terrorism-program-archives/terrorism-backgrounders/hayat-tahrir">terrorists</a> supported by Turkey, the so-called “moderate Syrian opposition,” went on a large-scale offensive in Northeastern Syria. As of this time, there are <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/01/syria-rebels-assad-aleppo-hama/">reports</a> that Aleppo is mostly under the control of the militants, who have taken control of the Aleppo airport and are moving towards Hama.</p>
<p>Aleppo is home to the largest Armenian community in Syria. It was one of the main nodes in the “deportation routes” used during the Armenian Genocide, leading to a huge influx of Armenian survivors, some of whom decided to settle there. We should mention that a decade ago, during the initial waves of the war in Syria, many Armenian towns were depopulated as Armenians fled Syria, many of them ending up in Armenia. And now, it seems like a deja vu.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was the timing of the ceasefire and beginning of these attacks in Syria a mere coincidence?</li>
<li>Can you give us a lay of the conflict right now, and who is attacking whom, and who is allied with whom, in the north of Syria?</li>
<li>What kind of support does Turkey provide to these groups?</li>
<li>Putting this offensive in the context of the larger Russia-West war in Ukraine, is this new front a message to Russia on the part of Turkey, or the West, or NATO?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Iranian envoy has <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/01/syria-rebels-assad-aleppo-hama/#link-QIWNC3J5U5BNZPEHTW3PFUCVRQ">assured</a> Assad that they stand with him in these tough times, while Trump’s former Intel acting chief <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/putin-letting-syrian-rebels-overthrow-assad-ex-trump-intel-chief-1993662">claims</a> that Putin is sacrificing Assad for his bigger picture issues.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think the pro-Assad camp was caught flat-footed by  the terrorist offensive, and how do you see Russia and Iran engaging in Syria?</li>
<li>Will this increase tensions between Russia and Turkey?</li>
<li>What about Trump’s posture towards Iran?</li>
<li>Does Assad have the forces to regain control of the north of Syria?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="lebanese-armenian-community">Lebanese-Armenian Community</h2>
<p>The Armenian community in Lebanon has suffered alongside the rest of the Lebanese people.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the current status of the community?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP388]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/388-archil-sikharulidze-georgia-elections-aftermath-abkhazia/</link><pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:00:00 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16200262-archil-sikharulidze-georgia-elections-aftermath-and-the-situation-in-abkhazia-ep-388-dec-1-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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* Unrest In Abkhazia
Episode 388 | Recorded: November 30, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="georgian-election-aftermath">Georgian Election Aftermath</h1>
<h2 id="constitutional-crisis">Constitutional Crisis?</h2>
<p>To <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-crucial-elections-choice-russia-or-europe/33174003.html">recap</a>, on October 26 Georgia held parliamentary elections, and Georgian Dream won a 54% majority, while the combined opposition parties and alliances that cleared the 5% vote margin to get into parliament, got 37%.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/631310">international reactions</a> to the election were predictable. The West has rallied behind Georgian president Salome Zurabishvili, and called the results fraudulent. Everybody else saw the results as an expression of Georgia’s desire to steer clear of the Russia-West global firestorm raging in Ukraine.</p>
<p>OK, fast forward a month: as Zurabishvili’s term as president comes to an end in mid-December, she is demanding the annulment of the election results and inciting western-funded opposition rallies in Tbilisi which in the past few days are bordering on violence. Most opposition forces have <a href="https://www.cbs19news.com/georgia-parliament-convenes-amid-legitimacy-crisis/article_005f0cc9-93c1-5b23-a9e8-68da2b2207be.html">announced</a> that they will renounce their mandates. One opposition party, Gakharia’s Strong Georgia, however, has <a href="https://1tv.ge/lang/en/news/giorgi-gakharia-on-parliamentary-mandates-we-will-act-on-our-terms/">not joined</a> the boycott.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there now a constitutional crisis in Georgia?</li>
<li>How do you think the situation will develop?</li>
<li>Without the opposition MPs picking up their mandates, does the parliament still have a quorum to function?</li>
</ul>
<p>The plenary session of the parliament to decide on the presidential election was <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-president-candidate-election/33217919.html">held without a decree</a> from president Zurabishvili who as we <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-protest-crackdown-eu-zurabishvili/33221472.html">said</a> claims the election results are invalid. During the first session, the Georgian Dream party in the new parliament <a href="https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c704pyn5ppyo">nominated</a> Mikheil Kavelashvili as its candidate for president and set the date of the upcoming presidential election to December 14. But Zurabishvili’s circles insist that such elections would be illegal until the Georgian Constitutional Court rules on her post-election challenges.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does Kavelashvili’s nomination mean?</li>
<li>Is the upcoming presidential election legal, and can Zurabishvili hold up the election?
<ul>
<li>Has the constitutional court ruled on the constitutionality of the first plenary session?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="reactions-from-the-west">Reactions from the West</h2>
<p>The situation remains fluid. The EU parliament passed a <a href="https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20241121IPR25549/parliament-calls-for-new-elections-in-georgia">resolution</a> calling the elections neither free nor fair and urged EU institutions to limit contacts with the new government until elections are re-run under international supervision. The resolution also called for imposing sanctions against Georgian Dream government members, including Bidzina Ivanishvili, Irakli Kobakhidze, and others.</p>
<p>In response, the Georgian Dream government, just this Thursday, <a href="https://apnews.com/article/georgia-cabinet-election-russia-european-union-kobakhidze-1291827f76eac552a2918b4b584fa5a0">suspended</a> EU membership talks for 4 years, accusing the EU of using the discussions as blackmail.</p>
<p>NOTE: Just now: the US has decided to <a href="https://netgazeti.ge/life/754131/">suspend</a> its strategic partnership with Georgia, saying: &ldquo;We condemn the use of excessive force against Georgians who were protesting treason against the constitution. The EU is a bulwark against the Kremlin. Because of this, we stopped the strategic partnership with Georgia.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the West escalating the situation or is there more nuance that we’re not seeing?</li>
<li>Do you think all of these developments register on incoming US president Donald Trump’s radar?</li>
<li>What do you think will be Trump&rsquo;s foreign policy towards Georgia and the South Caucasus region?
<ul>
<li>Given Trump’s animosity towards China, what could be his posture towards the <a href="https://agenda.ge/en/news/2024/41793#gsc.tab=0">Anaklia port</a> project?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="reactions-from-russia">Reactions From Russia</h2>
<p>You are one of the few Georgian experts who maintains dialogue with various Russian academicians. In fact, recently you were invited to talk at Valdai Club.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is Russia’s posture towards these political developments in Georgia?</li>
<li>Is there a rapprochement between Russia and Georgia, as GD takes over greater control of the government?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="abkhazia">Abkhazia</h2>
<p>In November 2024, political unrest <a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/abkhazia-protests/">erupted</a> in Abkhazia over opposition to a Russian investment agreement allowing property purchases by Russians. Protests intensified after the arrest of five activists, leading to the storming of the parliament building and clashes that injured 14 people. Amid mounting pressure, President Aslan Bzhania resigned on November 19, with Vice President Badra Gunba stepping in as acting president. A snap presidential election is set for February 15, 2025, to restore stability.</p>
<p>We’ve heard numerous explanations about why the current <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/abkhazia-bzhania-sukhumi-protests/33204418.html">political conflict</a> in Abkhazia emerged. One theory is that it was the result of western interference, a sort of a “color revolution” from the west. Others, such as yourself have claimed that the revolt by the opposition in Abkhazia was an independent strain among the Abkhaz, reacting against the potential for property ownership of Russians in Abkhazia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the source of this recent conflict?
<ul>
<li>Can what happened in Abkhazia be viewed independently of the West-Russia conflict?</li>
<li>Was it really a single law on property ownership?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are Abkhazians really independent?
<ul>
<li>With only 5 UN members recognizing them (Russia, Nikaragua, Venezuela, Syria and Nauru) clearly they rely heavily on Russian support nevertheless.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>For Armenia, the question of the Abkhazian rail link to Russia is of extreme importance. Currently, Armenia’s only transportation link with Russia is the mountainous  Stepantsminda-Lars highway which is subject to <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/854292.html">occasional</a> closures.</p>
<p>Therefore, it is in the strategic interests of Armenia to see the Abkhaz railway reopened. And within the context of a potential rapprochement between Russia or Georgia, this period seems to hold potential.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the likelihood that in the foreseeable future, the Abkhaz railway will be reopened?</li>
<li>Who are the main proponents and opponents of this scenario?</li>
<li>Do Turkey and Azerbaijan have a say here?
<ul>
<li>For instance, Arthur Martirosyan was saying that even if it is reopened, it might only be linked to the Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway and not fully south to Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>387</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G. Martirosyan - Government Firings by Text, Another Scandalous Pashinyan Interview, New Escalation in Ukraine | Ep 387 - Nov 24, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
* Supreme Judicial Council Head, MPs resign at Pashinyan’s “Ask”
* Another Pashinyan Interview, More Scandalous Statements
* Speed Cameras, Government Officials Cars
* “Western Azerbaijan” ≠ “Western Armenia”
* EU Mission in Armenia
* New Escalation in Ukraine
Episode 387 | Recorded: November 25, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Another Pashinyan Interview, More Scandalous Statements
* Speed Cameras, Government Officials Cars
* “Western Azerbaijan” ≠ “Western Armenia”
* EU Mission in Armenia
* New Escalation in Ukraine
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#### Topics:
* Supreme Judicial Council Head, MPs resign at Pashinyan’s “Ask”
* Another Pashinyan Interview, More Scandalous Statements
* Speed Cameras, Government Officials Cars
* “Western Azerbaijan” ≠ “Western Armenia”
* EU Mission in Armenia
* New Escalation in Ukraine
Episode 387 | Recorded: November 25, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>November 25 is <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2024/11/25/Monte-Melkonian/3082418">Monte Melkonyan’s birthday</a>. An Armenian National Hero who embodied unwavering courage, intellect, and a selfless dedication to the liberation of Artsakh, inspiring generations with his vision of a free and secure homeland. Despite our dark days, his legacy inspires us, proving that heroes like Monte come from the strength of our people.</p>
<h2 id="supreme-judicial-council-head-mps-resign-at-pashinyans-ask">Supreme Judicial Council Head, MPs resign at Pashinyan’s “Ask”</h2>
<p>We all know about the spate of resignations of many of Pashinyan’s cabinet ministers, members of parliament and the head of the supreme judicial council. In fact, we covered it last week and frankly we weren’t planning to talk about it anymore.</p>
<p>We actually laughed off initial reports that he committed this Sunday firing spree through text messages, thinking this to be too ridiculous to be true. Well, we were wrong! He actually <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tml8qnTt6UY">admitted</a> that he “asked” all these people to resign by text.</p>
<p>Look, senior members of the cabinet are members of the government and Pashinyan can fire them at will. But members of parliament are elected officials. A member of the Supreme Judicial Council is voted on by the parliament, and judges, and is supposed to be independent of the executive branch.</p>
<p>Yet, all of these members of the legislature and a member of the judicial branch resigned at the “asking” of the head of the executive branch.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How can a prime minister “request” other constitutional actors who are not appointed by him to resign and how can they so easily comply?</li>
<li>What does this indicate about the state of Armenia’s democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="another-pashinyan-interview-more-scandalous-statements">Another Pashinyan Interview, More Scandalous Statements</h2>
<p>Pashinyan gave another interview to Armenian Public TV last week and as with so many of his recent appearances, his statements aroused a great deal of controversy, if not outright anger. We should preface this by noting that Armenian Public TV is wholly funded by the Armenian government and is not an independent news outlet.</p>
<p>So, as is the norm, Pashinyan chose a very friendly medium for the interview. In our opinion, all of the questions being posed had prior approval from Pashinyan, or more likely, I’d say the questions or topics were probably provided by Pashinyan’s PR team, and so the interview was more like a spoken FAQ for explanations that Pashinyan wanted to repeat again and again for the public. So we approach the interview with that in mind.</p>
<h3 id="speed-cameras-dedicated-cars">Speed Cameras, Dedicated Cars</h3>
<p>Pashinyan brought into the public agenda two clearly populistic issues:</p>
<ol>
<li>The interviewer out of the blue brought up the question of speed cameras. During the so-called “velvet revolution” Pashinyan and his co-revolutionaries had used the issue of the widely disliked speed cameras to his favor by blocking them with stickers or even <a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/91541">feminine undergarments</a>, and he had promised to get rid of them. Yet after coming to power he changed his mind. But in this interview, Pashinyan suddenly said that he would <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1rG4yk3Xi0">support</a> a constitutional referendum to remove the speed cameras.</li>
<li>Pashinyan also said that he would <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4VXux_PPSM">take the axe</a> to dedicated cars for public officials. He had used this popular issue in 2018, claiming that too many government officials have their own cars, but again after coming to power the number of cars and the price of such cars, including for him and his wife, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33052367.html">has only increased</a>.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why would Pashinyan bring up populistic topics like the speed cameras and cars for public officials right now?</li>
<li>Why would he associate repealing these traffic laws, or simple government policy matters with a constitutional referendum? Is he trying to sugar-coat a referendum which otherwise will be laden with Azerbaijani demands?</li>
<li>Pashinyan has had 6 years to deal with these comparatively simple issues, and he has not done so. Is he using these to lay the ground for the next elections, whether snap or early elections, or the scheduled June 2026 elections?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="western-azerbaijan--western-armenia">“Western Azerbaijan” ≠ “Western Armenia”</h3>
<p>Let’s discuss a few of the other major topics from Pashinyan:</p>
<p>On the topic of Azerbaijan’s expansionist policy of claiming Armenia to be Azerbaijani territory and using the term “Western Azerbaijan” for Armenia, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjnp1ZYkkg">rationalized</a> this by saying that Armenians frequently use the term “Western Armenia”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the usage of the term “Western Armenia” and the use of the term “Western Azerbaijan” by Azerbaijani government officials the same?</li>
<li>Do you think this term comes from Turkish sources, in order to abate Armenian claims to historic Armenian lands?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="constitutional-demands">Constitutional Demands</h3>
<p>On the topic of Azerbaijan’s demands for Armenia to change its constitution, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjnp1ZYkkg">said</a> that Azerbaijan too has territorial demands in its constitution, but Armenia is not raising those issues with Azerbaijan in order to not derail the peace process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>As an expert in negotiations, what is your take on Pashinyan claiming that Azerbaijan’s constitution makes territorial claims against Armenia, and then not raising those issues for the sake of not blocking the negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-mission-in-armenia">EU Mission in Armenia</h3>
<p>On the issue of Azerbaijan demanding that the EU monitors be removed from Armenia, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGH0ofYsHms">confirmed</a> that he’s ready to do so at least on the portions of the border which have been delimited and demarcated.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is it rational for Pashinyan to exclude the EU Monitoring Mission out of the segments that have been allegedly defined, especially since the agreed upon principles assert that the border definitions may simply be superseded by the so-called “peace treaty”?</li>
<li>Many analysts had predicted that the EU monitoring mission presence in Armenia is a foothold for long term EU or Western presence in the region. What are the interests of the EU in this scenario where Pashinyan seems to be OK with not having any monitors so long as the borders are delimited and demarcated?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="further-escalation-in-ukraine">Further Escalation in Ukraine</h2>
<p>The outcome of the war in Ukraine is crucial to Armenia and its region.</p>
<p>Last week, in a move that was apparently previously planned to happen after the US elections, the Biden administration <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/17/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-missiles-russian-targets/index.html">authorized</a> Ukraine to use long range US weapons to strike targets inside the territory of Russia itself. Immediately after news of this authorization, <a href="https://www.rt.com/news/607999-putin-ukraine-conflict-global/">Ukraine fired ATACMS</a> missiles at Russian targets in Kursk.</p>
<p>Russia responded swiftly, firing a completely new weapon in the Russian arsenal, called Oreshnik, at Ukrainian targets in Dnepr. At the same time, <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1205313">Russia updated its nuclear doctrine</a>, lowering the threshold for nuclear weapons use, allowing for a nuclear response to conventional attacks that pose critical threats to the sovereignty or territorial integrity of Russia or its allies, including Belarus.</p>
<p>Trump has signaled intentions to halt the conflict in Ukraine (albeit without providing any details) and Trump allies, including his own son, <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-jr-biden-administration-trying-164024424.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGqjxoi04RFphqf8mekKmlwqfCkmGwb1ES9J3KNEqPN0kpaxujjOqcTaUKRbvv8a9jNMw_dvjRl4AgaR9RLClGHhTWz1SZLGg-FRqTMb10N5xZPS6OauWAlDBY4i6pikLLFR6QZdn-bh3qB9ja83gN7Fgnty_qR9gVE4LOwSE3nu">Donald Trump Jr</a>., have criticized the Biden Administration&rsquo;s authorization, claiming that Biden is trying to instigate “World War 3”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Could this move be an attempt by the outgoing Biden administration to lock-in an escalatory course in relations between the West and Russia, before Trump takes office?</li>
<li>Would Trump be able to change US policy on the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>What about China, can the US split China from Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Jeffrey Sachs in Armenia: “Don’t rely on the US.”</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: How will Georgia, Russia &amp; Abkhazia play out, and Armenia is not paying enough attention.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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[EP386]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/386-tevan-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-cop29-gyumri-politics-police-reform/</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:12:55 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16138507-tevan-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-cop29-in-baku-gyumri-politics-police-reform-ep-386-nov-17-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
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* COP29: Diplomacy and boycotts
* Gyumri's political intrigues
* Mass dismissal of Armenian government members
* Police “reform”
* Legislative Changes In Preparation For Elections
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* COP29: Diplomacy and boycotts
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* Mass dismissal of Armenian government members
* Police “reform”
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* Gyumri's political intrigues
* Mass dismissal of Armenian government members
* Police “reform”
* Legislative Changes In Preparation For Elections
Episode 386 | Recorded: November 17, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-talks">Armenia-Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<h3 id="hateful-attacks-on-declaration-of-independence">Hateful Attacks On Declaration of Independence</h3>
<p>Pashinyan severely <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33202094.html">ramped up</a> his criticism of the Declaration of Independence by saying the document is about Armenia’s non-existence. Recently his hand-picked constitutional court issued the decision that he was hoping would show to Aliyev that the Declaration of Independence doesn’t carry legal force, because it is not part of the text of the constitution. But Aliyev rejected the decision and has continued insisting on his demand that Pashinyan take the constitutional change to a national referendum. We have heard Pashinyan criticize the document before, but <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fYLlTIco5o">this week’s attacks</a> bordered on hate.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you attribute this past week’s attacks on Armenia’s founding documents?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="any-last-minute-deals-at-cop29">Any Last Minute Deals at COP29?</h3>
<p>COP29 is in Baku from November 11 to 22. As usual there have been all types of statements from Pashinyan’s circles, from Alen Simonyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33186907.html">saying</a> he’s against attending, to Mirzoyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1204845">saying</a> that nobody from Armenia has registered to attend, to deputy FM Vahan Kostanyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33197891.html">saying</a> they won’t rule out attendance.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the signal that Pashinyan is waiting for, to run to Baku?</li>
</ul>
<p>Many European leaders have shunned COP29, and international climate activist Greta Thunberg has not only boycotted it, but she has come to Armenia and also loudly blasted COP29 and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there are some interesting people attending. International finance expert Jeffrey Sachs, a high profile UN official <a href="https://www.climate.columbia.edu/cop29">was</a> in Baku, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSrQkZGa_wU">then</a> in Yerevan. A co-chair of the Armenian Caucus in the US House of Representatives, Frank Palone, is there. Pallone has an <a href="https://anca.org/congress/frank-pallone-427-116/">A+ grade</a> by the ANCA for his pro-Armenian politics, yet he’s in Baku, and all the while the ANCA is running a campaign to boycott COP29.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there evidence of Track 2 diplomacy going on, to get Azerbaijan to sign some agreement with Armenia before Biden leaves office?</li>
<li>The US Embassy in Baku (not Yerevan) <a href="https://x.com/USEmbassyBaku/status/1856233792266018839">tweeted</a> that Azerbaijan and Armenia are working together on integrated water management. Why now, when borders are not even delimited yet? And also, why are we learning this from a US embassy (in Baku) tweet and not from our own government?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="internal-developments">Internal Developments</h2>
<h3 id="balasanyan-boondoggle">Balasanyan Boondoggle?</h3>
<p>In 2021, Samvel Balasanyan’s Balasanyan Bloc won the municipal elections in Gyumri. Of course any time a party other than Civil Contract wins any elections, there are legal charges against the winners, illegal imprisonments of the leading candidates, and essentially a ruling party crony is eventually appointed to take over the city.</p>
<p>This time is no different. The Balasanyan Bloc reached a <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2021/10/30/Gyumri-mayor/2590316">power sharing agreement</a> with Civil Contract later in 2021, but in the past year a flurry of <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33170635.html">corruption charges</a> against them led to paralysis and recent <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33170635.html">resignations</a>. Right now we’re in the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33194982.html">phase</a> of seeing who will take over the mayorship and city council in Gyumri.</p>
<p>That’s like the 50,000 foot view.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do the charges against the Balasanyan Bloc have merit?
<ul>
<li>Struggling to figure out if this is a political struggle, or if there is real basis for corruption?</li>
<li>Note also that Gyumri has hardly recovered from the great 1988 earthquake, and the second largest city in Armenia is hardly an economic force on the national map.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is the right outcome for the people of Gyumri?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="night-of-the-long-knives">Night of The Long Knives</h3>
<p>Over the weekend, a number of government members, some deemed to be very close confidants of Nikol Pashinyan and Civil Contract were <a href="https://mamul.am/am/news/307972">sacked</a> by Pashinyan. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikol.pashinyan/posts/pfbid02EUeA5QHURNimGb5GKbB5uw3ddhmcPdjMtW4YKjSBquKgdaF37Y52vTn6VzEqmpi6l">confirmed</a> that he asked them to resign, saying that the “requests are not personal, but systemic”.</p>
<p>Who are they?</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Argishti Kyaramyan</strong>: Chairman of the RA Investigative Committee. Formerly head of the National Security Service. During the 2020 war, he left his post at the NSS and was conducting a “special mission” in Artsakh.</li>
<li><strong>Sasun Khachatryan</strong>: Chairman of the RA Anti-Corruption Committee. His office is responsible for investigating corruption cases. He is known for the scandalous leaks in 2019 where in which he was colluding with Nikol Pashinyan and Artur Vanetsyan to arrest Robert Kocharyan and Yuri Khachaturov.</li>
<li><strong>Vahe Ghazaryan</strong>: Nikol Pashinyan’s former class-mate from Ijevan and head of the Ministry of the Interior, which includes the police forces. Under his watch, there was wide scale repression of opposition activists including the beatings and repression of protesters on June 12.</li>
<li><strong>Gnel Sanosyan</strong>: Minister of Territorial Administration and Infrastructures</li>
<li><strong>Rustam Badasyan</strong>: Head of the state revenue committee.</li>
</ul>
<p>In addition to the members of government, Karen Andreasyan of the Supreme Judicial Council has also <a href="https://www.facebook.com/karen.andreasyan.925/posts/pfbid0fFQo4hkSbH8WfmXskYF3yi4aZtAPjTuUU2YGYtvEnp8hCzusHeuBM6Q79QRqBwyl">tendered</a> his resignation. There are also reports that some members of parliament from Civil Contract may also put down their mandates.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your take on this?
<ul>
<li>Are we seeing cracks in Pashinyan and Civil Contract’s iron rule?</li>
<li>Opposition MPs suggest that this is positioning for new elections.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="legislative-changes-in-preparation-for-elections">Legislative Changes In Preparation For Elections</h3>
<p>There is ongoing evidence that the authorities are <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/849055.html">preparing for elections</a>, and two potential legislative measures spearheaded by Civil Contract are drawing speculation and criticism.</p>
<p>First, there are attempts to change the Armenian constitution, via parliamentary vote, to remove the “stable majority” clause from the constitution. According to the current Armenian constitution, the party or alliance that gets the majority of votes will automatically receive sufficient bonus mandates to give it 54% of the vote.</p>
<p>The council examining constitutional changes <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/sahmanadroutyan-kayoun-metsamasnoutyan-hodvatsits-hrazharvelou-hartsy-merzhvets/33126519.html">voted</a> in favor of a proposal by the Union of Informed Citizens, headed by Daniel Ioanisyan, to remove this “stable majority” clause. However, the council also voted against separating this issue from the general packet of constitutional reforms, which would have allowed it to be expedited and voted on by the National Assembly ahead of the 2026 scheduled elections.</p>
<p>The other, potentially more concerning issue, is a measure by Civil Contract to allow the cancellation of election results if martial law (or state of emergency is declared). This measure has already <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MfTNyhvO2Q">passed</a> in the first reading.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us about this issue with this “stable majority” system, and why pro-government forces are working to remove it now?</li>
<li>How does the proposed law on cancellation of election results in case of state of emergency work? What are the dangers if it is adopted?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="police-reform">Police Reform</h3>
<p>In an <a href="https://armtimes.com/hy/article/300656">interview</a> just yesterday Arpine Sargsyan, deputy minister of internal affairs, said that, as part of the proposed police reforms, the police guard will have among its responsibilities “supporting the security of persons subject to special state protection, the provision of military and emergency legal regimes, as well as anti-terrorist operations.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key changes, and also what are the goals of this “police reform”?</li>
<li>What problems is this government trying to solve?</li>
<li>Is it too far-fetched to think that some of the proposed legislative changes, and some of the police reforms, point to a logic that underscores an effort to secure a win in future elections by a deeply unpopular government?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/386/thumbnail-386.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/386/thumbnail-386.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16138507-tevan-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-cop29-in-baku-gyumri-politics-police-reform-ep-386-nov-17-2024.mp3" length="36329438" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3025</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, 2025 State Budget, Internal Political Developments | Ep 385 - Nov 10, 2024
[EP385]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/385-arthur-khachatryan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-2025-state-budget-domestic-internal-politics/</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16107832-arthur-khachatryan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-2025-state-budget-internal-political-developments-ep-385-nov-10-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>385</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, 2025 State Budget, Internal Political Developments | Ep 385 - Nov 10, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - 11/10/2024
        
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* Draft 2025 State Budget
* Armenian Internal Politics
Episode 385 | Recorded: November 13, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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* Armenian Internal Politics
Episode 385 | Recorded: November 13, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Draft 2025 State Budget
* Armenian Internal Politics
Episode 385 | Recorded: November 13, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia---azerbaijan-peace-treaty">Armenia - Azerbaijan “Peace Treaty”</h2>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-leaks-points-of-disagreement">Azerbaijan Leaks Points of Disagreement</h3>
<p>Farid Shafiyev, head of a think tank funded by the office of the Azerbaijani president, <a href="https://x.com/shafiyev_farid/status/1853426110953848900">revealed</a> the 3 points that have not been agreed upon yet:</p>
<ol>
<li>Change of Armenia’s constitution through referendum</li>
<li>Renounce all legal claims against Azerbaijan in international courts</li>
<li>Withdrawal of EU mission in Armenia</li>
</ol>
<p>In addition, Shafiyev talks about the “demilitarization of Armenia”:</p>
<ul>
<li>“I have also heard some arguments that the peace treaty cannot guarantee any sustainable security, just like the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 failed to guarantee Ukraine&rsquo;s territorial integrity despite the written commitments from signatory parties. Thus, the only guarantee is the situation on the ground - which means that Armenia should be limited in its military capacity - i.e. <strong>demilitarized</strong>.”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Shafiyev is highly connected. How reliable are these claims, and why is Aliyev’s office essentially leaking this information now?</li>
<li>Shafiyev talks about demilitarizing Armenia, because he says that no peace treaty can guarantee security. What is Azerbaijan’s vision and plan to demilitarize Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile, Ararat Mirzoyan is talking about “cautious optimism”, and the Armenian MFA is full of <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33191852.html">vague answers</a> to questions about the points of disagreement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is the MFA not clarifying the Armenian positions, when Azerbaijan is tweeting about the differences publicly?</li>
<li>Is it possible that at the last minute, something will be signed at #COP29, which is in progress now, since yesterday until Nov. 22?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trump-elected-president-of-the-us">Trump Elected President of the US</h3>
<p>Trump will take over as president of the US on January 20th. He has promised to end the Ukraine war, the Israeli wars on Gaza and Lebanon; he has promised to “restore PEACE” between Armenia and Azerbaijan; and he has referred to Artsakh and the ethnic cleansing of its Armenian Christian population.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Would Pashinyan&rsquo;s&rsquo; government have preferred to see Kamala Harris win?</li>
<li>How should Armenia engage Trump?</li>
<li>What should the Armenian American diaspora engage Trump?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="draft-2025-state-budget">Draft 2025 State Budget</h2>
<p>The parliament is discussing the government’s <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/150470">draft 2025 budget</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Summary:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Budget expenditures of $8.93B</li>
<li>Ongoing expenses of $7.05B</li>
<li>Capital expenditures of $1.88B</li>
<li>Budget revenues of $7.37B, of which $7.08B in tax revenues.</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200787">Budget deficit</a> of $1.56B.</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200784">Economic growth</a> of 5.6%</li>
<li>Inflation rate of 3.5%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this budget?</li>
<li>Given that the government has a dismal record of hitting its targets both in expenditures, as well revenues, do these targets look reasonable?
<ul>
<li>Note: as far as tax revenues are concerned, the government thinks it can increase revenues by 25% <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200790">through</a> “improvements in tax administration, fight against shadow economy, as well as other tax policies.”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The government has been including the gold re-export trade in its GDP calculations. Since May this sector has been cut to less than half of its size in February. Was Armenia’s tax base benefiting from this sector?</li>
<li>Given that the economy has been slowing down since the start of 2024, is a 5.6% economic growth rate in 2025 a reasonable expectation?</li>
<li>According to economists, consumer debt has become a concern because most peoples’ wages haven’t kept up with their borrowing, especially mortgage debt. At what point does this issue become alarming?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-national-debt">The National Debt</h3>
<p>On the macro level, the national debt is rising sharply. The government expects a debt-to-GDP of 53.5%, which is a manageable level, but just in the past month we’ve read of at least another $5-600 million in international loans.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is fueling all the borrowing, and is the money going towards expanding the economy, or just operational expenses?</li>
<li>Is the war in Ukraine ending a risk to Armenia’s re-export economy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-defense-budget">The Defense Budget</h3>
<p>A 20% growth in the <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/150476">defense budget</a> is earmarked to “increase resilience” of Armenia’s security. So in 2025 the defense budget will be $1.7B, compared to Azerbaijan’s $5B. (Revised up from $3.9B). (Note: Russia is also <a href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/09/24/russia-to-boost-military-spending-to-40-of-state-budget-in-2025-bloomberg-a86450">boosting</a> defense spending by over 30% to $142B in 2025)</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did the government fulfill last year’s $1.3B defense budget?
<ul>
<li>Are we safer for having spent that budget on defense? What do we have to show for those $1.3 billions?</li>
<li>Last year Armenia and the US held so-called military exercises named Eagle Partners. Many outlets reported that it was mostly crowd control type drills. Is the money being reallocated for transforming the armed forces into a national guard to keep the people pacified and quiet. Remember Eagle Partner, which turned out to be a police and crowd control training exercise, instead of a war drill.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-internal-politics">Armenian Internal Politics</h2>
<h3 id="new-law-for-retired-officers">New Law for Retired Officers</h3>
<p>Parliament recently passed a <a href="https://massispost.com/2024/10/new-law-in-armenia-encourages-retired-officers-to-rejoin-army/">new law</a> encouraging retired low and mid-level officers to rejoin the Army, yet keep their pensions. Before the law those who would rejoin would lose their pensions.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is this law needed now? Is there a manpower shortage in the armed forces, and in which positions?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="new-justice-minister">New Justice Minister</h3>
<p>Minister of justice Grigor Minasyan <a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-justice-minister-resigns-after-photo-surfaces-of-his-deputy-with-kocharyans-daughter/">resigned</a> on October 1. Supposedly the calls for his resignation started because he had appointed a deputy minister of justice who had allegedly been seen with Robert Kocharyan’s daughter in 2019.</p>
<p>After a month of intra-party drama, Civil Contract <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenian_president_appoints_srbuhi_galyan_as_minister_of_justice_/">appointed Srbuhi Galyan</a> as the new minister of justice.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What were the real reasons behind this shuffle?</li>
<li>The struggle to find a new minister of justice was rather long and heated. Highly qualified names, like <a href="https://www.gov.am/en/staff-structure/other/228/">Yeghishe Kirakosyan</a>, were passed over. Who is Srbuhi Galyan, is she capable, qualified, etc?</li>
<li>At one point this issue was threatening to engulf the head of the supreme judicial council, Karen Andreasyan, but that seems to have passed?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="legislative-changes-in-preparation-for-elections">Legislative Changes In Preparation For Elections</h3>
<p>There is evidence that the authorities are <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/849055.html">preparing for elections</a>, two potential legislative measures spearheaded by Civil Contract are drawing speculation and criticism.</p>
<p>There are attempts to change the Armenian constitution, via parliamentary vote, to remove the “stable majority” clause from the constitution. According to the current Armenian constitution, the party or alliance that gets the majority of votes will automatically receive sufficient bonus mandates to give it 54% of the vote. The council examining constitutional changes <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/sahmanadroutyan-kayoun-metsamasnoutyan-hodvatsits-hrazharvelou-hartsy-merzhvets/33126519.html">voted</a> in favor of a proposal by the Union of Informed Citizens, headed by Daniel Ioanisyan, to remove this “stable majority” clause, However, the council also voted against separating this issue from the general packet of constitutional reforms, so that it can be expedited and voted on by the National Assembly ahead of the 2026 scheduled elections.</p>
<p>The other, potentially more concerning issue, is a measure by Civil Contract to allow the cancellation of election results if martial law (or state of emergency is declared). This measure has already <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MfTNyhvO2Q">passed</a> in the first reading.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, can you let us know what the issue with this “stable majority” system is and why are pro-government forces working to remove it?</li>
<li>Can you tell us how the proposed law on cancellation of election results, in case of state of emergency, works? What are the dangers if it is adopted?</li>
</ul>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Armenian government has used state of emergency to prevent elections (constitutional referendum in 2020) before;</li>
<li>The government can find reasons to cancel elections this way. For instance, Azerbaijan can start a shooting on the border and the Armenian government can declare a state of emergency and cancel elections. This can be done either in coordination with Azerbaijan&rsquo;s Aliyev.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/385/thumbnail-385.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/385/thumbnail-385.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16107832-arthur-khachatryan-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-2025-state-budget-internal-political-developments-ep-385-nov-10-2024.mp3" length="3457" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41522872</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Suren Sargsyan - Armenia and Trump’s Election as President Again | Ep 384 - Nov 9, 2024
[EP384]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/384-suren-sargsyan-armenia-and-trump-election-as-president-again/</link><pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16076384-suren-sargsyan-armenia-and-trump-s-election-as-president-again-ep-384-nov-9-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>384</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Suren Sargsyan - Armenia and Trump’s Election as President Again | Ep 384 - Nov 9, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Nov 9, 2024
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topic:
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* Ukraine War, NATO, China
* Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, Iran
Episode 384 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
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* Ukraine War, NATO, China
* Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, Iran
Episode 384 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
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* Ukraine War, NATO, China
* Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, Iran
Episode 384 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenia-and-trumps-election-as-president-again">Armenia and Trump’s Election as President Again</h1>
<p>We want to look at the coming Trump presidency, especially given some of the things he has said about Ukraine, the Middle East, and of course about Armenia, and Artsakh.</p>
<p>Trump will take office on January 20th, so there are around 70-75 days until then.</p>
<p>But first, let’s take a look at the previous few months in the campaign and how the campaign was perceived among Armenians, including those in Armenia.</p>
<h2 id="armenia-armenian-americans-artsakh">Armenia, Armenian Americans, Artsakh</h2>
<p>As we’ve discussed with Harut Sassounian in <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/380-harut-sassounian-armenian-americans-and-the-2024-us-presidential-elections/">Episode 380</a>, this election was somewhat polarizing and emotional. Most voters already knew whom they would vote for, where potential support for Armenia wasn’t at the top of their list of issues. Furthermore, Armenians suffered as a result of policies of both administrations, so there wasn’t a clear choice to endorse. These are the reasons that the ANCA chose to withhold its endorsement for president.</p>
<p>So let’s ask a few questions about the campaign process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the view from the republic: Was it right for the ANCA to withhold endorsement?</li>
<li>Were you able to monitor how the election was covered in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>How did pro-government and opposition media cover the elections?</li>
<li>Are there any surveys that indicate how ordinary people in Armenia perceive both Trump and Harris?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In the final week before his election, Trump made a social media <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113359046804685083">post</a> on his TruthSocial platform, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33171862.html">saying</a> that “120,000 Armenian Christians were horrifically persecuted and forcibly displaced in Artsakh,” and that he “&hellip; will protect persecuted Christians, I will work to stop the violence and ethnic cleansing, and we will restore PEACE between Armenia and Azerbaijan,”</p>
<p>Just when we thought he was done pandering for the Armenian vote, he <a href="https://asbarez.com/trump-calls-catholicos-aram-i-voices-support-for-artsakh-issue-and-regional-peace/">called</a> Aram Vehapar in Antelias, Lebanon and had a discussion with him.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was Trump emphasizing the Christian angle? He talks about persecuted Christian Armenians, he calls up our Christian spiritual leader. Why did he call Aram Vehapar, instead of, for example, calling Makunts in Washington, or the ANCA, or even, more importantly, Karekin Vehapar in Etchmiadzin, or Pashinyan in Yerevan?
<ul>
<li>Was he addressing his evangelical Christian base?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How did the word Artsakh enter Trump’s geopolitical lexicon?</li>
<li>Is Trump differentiating his relations with Armenian Americans, from those with Armenia itself?</li>
<li>How should Armenia engage with Trump?</li>
<li>How should American Armenians engage with Trump?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ukraine-war">Ukraine War</h2>
<p>Trump has said that he will <a href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893">resolve the Ukraine war</a> within a day, and possibly before even taking office. He has threatened to both stop funding Ukraine with billions in military aid like Biden has, or supply them with more if Putin doesn’t stop. He wants a win-win agreement and an end to the war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Well OK, whether he does that in 1 day or 100, what are Trump’s goals in Ukraine? Does he want the conflict to end, or does he want to stop spending billions on that war, or does he want the Europeans to spend more on the war? What are his goals?</li>
<li>Trump has revived his talk about leaving NATO. Is this a real plan, or a negotiation tactic to get Europe to step up and share the cost of the alliance?</li>
<li>If the US plans to continue a war of attrition on Russia, then they will need to remove China from the picture. How does China figure in this conflict and in Trump’s plans for a resolution?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israel-gaza-lebanon">Israel, Gaza, Lebanon</h2>
<p>Trump is all in on Netanyahu, Israel, and the “right to defend” lingo. A greater regional threat looms as Israel has tried to draw Iran into a direct state-to-state confrontation and involve the US militarily as well. But it is said that behind the scenes Trump is pushing Netanyahu to wind down the wars in Gaza and Lebanon.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Once again, what are Trump’s foreign policy goals in the region?</li>
<li>We know Trump is no fan of Iran, and pulled out of the JCPOA during his first presidency. What are his plans in Iran’s direction, and how do Azerbaijan and Armenia figure in US strategy?</li>
<li>A lot has been written about the showdown of the two global economic superpowers, China and the US. Is Trump trying to stamp out all these relatively minor conflicts around the world so that the US can focus its attention and resources on its main adversary of the 21st century?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP383]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/383-%D5%B6%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A5%D5%AF-%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AB-%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B2%D5%A1%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%A1%D5%AE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%A8/</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 15:59:12 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16073518-narek-malyan-ep-383-nov-8-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>383</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Նարեկ Մալյան - Քաղաքական Հալածանքներ և Ընտրովի Արդարադատուտյուն | Ep 383 - Nov 8, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Կռունկ Զրույց
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Կալանավորում, մեկ տարի բանտում (Arrest, one year in prison)
* Նախնական կալանք որպես պատիժ (Pretrial detention as punishment)
* Ընտրովի «արդարադատություն» ընդդիմադիրների նկատմամբ (Selective "justice" towards oppositionists)
* Արեւմուտքի լռությունը (The silence of the West)
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Կալանավորում, մեկ տարի բանտում (Arrest, one year in prison)
* Նախնական կալանք որպես պատիժ (Pretrial detention as punishment)
* Ընտրովի «արդարադատություն» ընդդիմադիրների նկատմամբ (Selective "justice" towards oppositionists)
* Արեւմուտքի լռությունը (The silence of the West)
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
* [Narek Malyan](/guest/nmalyan)
#### Topics:
* Կալանավորում, մեկ տարի բանտում (Arrest, one year in prison)
* Նախնական կալանք որպես պատիժ (Pretrial detention as punishment)
* Ընտրովի «արդարադատություն» ընդդիմադիրների նկատմամբ (Selective "justice" towards oppositionists)
* Արեւմուտքի լռությունը (The silence of the West)
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="նարեկ-մալյանի-քաղաքական-հալածանքները">Նարեկ Մալյանի Քաղաքական Հալածանքները</h1>
<p>Արդեն մոտ երկու ամիս է, ինչ ազատվել ես բանտից։ Ձեր բանտում գտնվելու մի մասը եղել է նախնական կալանքի տակ, իսկ մնացածը ձեր ստացած 1 տարվա պատիժը:</p>
<p><strong>Հարցեր</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Նախ կարո՞ղ եք մեզ ասել, թե ինչպէս եք զգում ազատության մեջ:</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ազատազրկում-և-ազատում">Ազատազրկում և ազատում</h2>
<p>Ինչպես ասացինք, Ձեզ դատում էին երկու տարբեր քրեական գործերով։ Այդ գործերից մեկում (Չաուշեսկուի գործը) դուք արդարացվեցիք, բայց դա չխանգարեց կառավարության դատախազներին բողոքարկել գործը: Մյուս դեպքում դուք մեղավոր եք ճանաչվել և դատապարտվել մեկ տարվա ազատազրկման։</p>
<p><strong>Հարցեր</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Կարո՞ղ եք կիսվել ձեր զգացումները: Ի՞նչ էր անցնում Ձեր մտքով, Ձեր ազատման պահին <a href="https://youtu.be/c_aheRRwbjI?si=CFBABelfU_oP0yno">տեսնելով</a> Ձեր հորը և որդիներին։</li>
<li>Արդյո՞ք Ձեր նկատմամբ կայացված դատավճիռը արդարացի էր։</li>
<li>Ի՞նչ կարող եք ասել մեզ ձեր գործերի մասին: Ձեր մեղադրական դատավճիռը բողոքարկվու՞մ է։</li>
<li>Որքա՞ն ժամանակ և էներգիա էր պահանջվում ձեզանից այս գործերին ներգրավվելու, դատարանից դատարան գնալու և հետո բանտ վերադառնալու համար: Կարո՞ղ եք մի փոքր պատմել ձեր առօրյայի մասին:</li>
<li>Կա՞ որևէ այկ բան, որը մենք չգիտենք Հայաստանում կալանավորների առջև ծառացած խնդիրների մասին, որը կցանկանայիք կիսվել մեր ունկնդիրների հետ:</li>
</ul>
<p>Երբ տեղի ունեցան 2008թ. Մարտի 1-ի դեպքերը, և մի շարք ընդդիմադիրներ բանտարկվեցին, միջազգային իրավապաշտպան կազմակերպությունների ուշադրությունը շատ նկտաելի էր: ԱՄՆ-ի և ԵՄ-ի դեսպանները նույնիսկ ներկա էին դատական նիստերին, և զեկույցներում պարբերաբար նշվում էր «քաղբանտարկյալների» հարցը։</p>
<p><strong>Հարցեր</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ձեր դատավարության և բանտարկության ընթացքում արևմտյան որևէ կազմակերպություն կամ դեսպանություն հետաքրքրություն հայտնե՞լ է ձեր գործով կամ փորձել կապ հաստատել ձեզ հետ: Եթե այո, կարո՞ղ եք մանրամասնել, և ի՞նչ ազդեցություն են ունեցել դրանք ձեր իրավիճակի վրա:</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="նախնական-կալանք-որպես-պատիժ">«Նախնական կալանք» որպես պատիժ</h2>
<p>Այժմ մենք ցանկանում ենք մեր ուշադրությունն ուղղել նախնական կալանքի խնդրի վրա, որով դուք գտնվում էիք անազատության մեջ մինչև դատական վճիռը։ Նախորդ փոդքասթներից մեկում (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/343">Սերիա 343</a>) մենք ընդգծեցինք այն իրականությունը, որ Եվրոպայի Խորհրդում Հայաստանն ունի նախնական կալանքի 2-րդ ամենաբարձր մակարդակը՝ երկրորդ միայն Ալբանիային:</p>
<p><strong>Հարցեր</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Դուք հավատու՞մ եք, որ նախնական կալանքն օգտագործվում է որպես քաղաքական այլախոհության թիրախավորման գործիք:</li>
<li>Ի՞նչ բարեփոխումներ կառաջարկեք այս խնդրի լուծման համար:</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/383/thumbnail-383.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/383/thumbnail-383.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16073518-narek-malyan-ep-383-nov-8-2024.mp3" length="42237050" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3517</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - China, BRICS, New World Order, Armenia in Kazan, Georgian Elections in 2024 | Ep 382 - Nov 4, 2024
[EP382]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/382-benyamin-poghosyan-china-brics-new-world-order-armenia-at-kazan-summit-georgian-elections-2024/</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16046906-benyamin-poghosyan-china-brics-new-world-order-armenia-in-kazan-georgian-elections-in-2024-ep-382-nov-4-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>382</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - China, BRICS, New World Order, Armenia in Kazan, Georgian Elections in 2024 | Ep 382 - Nov 4, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - November 4, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* China, and the New World Order
* BRICS Summit and Multipolarity
* Armenia at BRICS
* Georgian Elections in 2024
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* China, and the New World Order
* BRICS Summit and Multipolarity
* Armenia at BRICS
* Georgian Elections in 2024
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* China, and the New World Order
* BRICS Summit and Multipolarity
* Armenia at BRICS
* Georgian Elections in 2024
Episode 382 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="china-brics-new-world-order-2024-georgian-elections">China, BRICS, New World Order, 2024 Georgian elections</h1>
<p>In recent years there have been a lot of discussions at academic and expert level, and also in political circles, about the transformation of the current world order from the unipolar system, which emerged after the end of the Cold War in 1991, into a more complex multipolar security architecture. China, as well as BRICS, are viewed as driving forces of this transformation.</p>
<h2 id="china-and-the-new-world-order">China and the New World Order</h2>
<p>You recently attended The <a href="https://xiangshanforum.cn/">11th Beijing Xiangshan Forum</a> in China back in September. This event is sponsored by the China Association of MIlitary Science, it has links with the Chinese defense department, and this year it brought together participants from over 90 countries.</p>
<p><a href="https://xiangshanforum.cn/news.html?newcode=Cb3OB4EQ&amp;flag=a">Key topics</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Benyamin’s panel discussion about <a href="https://xiangshanforum.cn/agenda.html?sessions=%E7%AC%AC%E5%8D%81%E4%B8%80%E5%B1%8A%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E9%A6%99%E5%B1%B1%E8%AE%BA%E5%9D%9B&amp;code=Sg562g0Af5gfg06h&amp;titleen=The%2011th%20Beijing%20Xiangshan%20Forum&amp;day=2024-09-12">Narratives and Communication in Modern Wars.</a></li>
<li>US-China Relations</li>
<li>The Global South</li>
<li>International Conflict Resolution</li>
<li>International Arms Control</li>
<li>AI, Emerging Technologies</li>
<li>Multipolarity and the Evolving World Order</li>
<li>SCO+ - Shanghai Cooperation Organization</li>
<li>…And much more.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What were your key takeaways from the Beijing Xiangshan Forum?</li>
<li>How does China view the South Caucasus in its worldview?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since the war in Ukraine, China and Russia have struck up a strong partnership in defense of their common interests against the West.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do China and Russia have identical interests, or are there any differences?</li>
<li>What is the Chinese role and interest in fostering a multi-polar world order?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="brics-and-multipolarity">BRICS and Multipolarity</h2>
<h3 id="brics-summit-in-kazan">BRICS Summit in Kazan</h3>
<p>Top leaders from over 36 countries convened in Kazan, Russia, for the annual BRICS summit. This organization has gained a lot of traction in the past 5-6 years, as it promises an alternative to Western-led governance platforms, whether in politics, finance, or other aspects of international rule.</p>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Summit happened</li>
<li>Was well attended
<ul>
<li>Saudi Arabia didn’t attend at the executive leader level (the FM attended)</li>
<li>Brazil’s Lula didn’t attend because of medical reasons</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Western media did everything to present it as a gathering of “Putin allies” instead of a legitimate meeting of an international organization</li>
<li>Even Turkey’s Erdogan, a NATO member, attended</li>
<li>Aliyev, Pashinyan attended</li>
<li>There is a significant line-up of countries that want to become members</li>
<li>Brazil vetoed Venezuela&rsquo;s membership</li>
<li>Summit resolution doesn’t mention Ukraine at all</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the implication of BRICS recent extension. Currently, BRICS has 9 permanent members, and during the summit in Kazan, an agreement was reached to add 13 countries as partners, among them Turkey. What is the role of BRICS in the emerging multipolar world?</li>
<li>What is the significance of the Brazil veto of Venezuela’s membership?</li>
<li>There seemed to be a meeting between Modi of India and Xi of China. Is a potential rapprochement between India and China in the making?</li>
<li>Could India and/or China veto Turkey’s membership? What about Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>BRICS is rolling out an alternative to the Western controlled SWIFT banking system, and also moving away from dollar-denominated international trade and commerce.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you help us understand the significance of this?
<ul>
<li>Because this is clearly a concern for the US. Trump has stated that if elected, he will impose a 100% tariff on trade with any country that moves away from dollar-denominated international trade.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-at-brics">Armenia at BRICS</h3>
<p>Pashinyan attended the BRICS summit in Kazan and held negotiations with President Aliyev.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do these changes in world order mean for Armenia?</li>
<li>What role could BRICS play for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgia-elections-2024">Georgia Elections 2024</h2>
<p>On October 26, parliamentary elections took place in Georgia, According to official results, the ruling party Georgian Dream got around 54 percent of the votes, while 4 opposition parties overcame the 5 percent threshold. However, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/631791">echoed</a> various Western observers (OSCE ODIHR, representatives of the NATO Parliamentary assembly, PACE, European Parliament) by calling for a full investigation into “breaches of international norms” during the elections.</p>
<p>So that is the line that Georgian president Salome Zourabishvili and the opposition parties are <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-parliamentary-vote-violence-intimidation-russia-west/33175194.html">pushing</a> and also alleging that there has been Russian interference, without providing any supporting evidence. She and umbrella civil society NGO “My Vote” are <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/631251">alleging</a> systematic and massive voter fraud affecting 300,000 votes, and demanding the annulment of the election results.</p>
<p>Four opposition parties cleared the 5% parliamentary threshold, so the Georgian parliament will be composed of what appears to be a healthy five political parties. A government that cleared the 50% threshold but did not achieve supermajority in the parliament, a healthy opposition that can build coalitions to influence the government, and an election process that went, by and large, peacefully.</p>
<p>Regardless, as predicted, Zourabishvili, the opposition, and the NGO industry are rejecting the results.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why were these elections painted as either a choice between Russia and the West, or between war and peace?</li>
<li>What happens now, with the opposition taking a rigid, hardline stance on the outcome of the election? Is there still a potential for violence and even political instability in Georgia, as a result of this standoff between government and opposition?</li>
<li>What are the implications for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/382/thumbnail-382.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/382/thumbnail-382.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16046906-benyamin-poghosyan-china-brics-new-world-order-armenia-in-kazan-georgian-elections-in-2024-ep-382-nov-4-2024.mp3" length="47739813" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3974</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Johnny G. Melikian - Georgia Elections Outcome, Political Landscape, Effect on Armenia | Ep 381 - Nov 3, 2024
[EP381]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/381-johnny-melikian-georgia-elections-2024/</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2024 03:38:02 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16038337-johnny-g-melikian-georgia-elections-outcome-political-landscape-effect-on-armenia-ep-381-nov-3-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
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* Political Landscape
* Effect on Armenia and Beyond
Episode 381 | Recorded: November 3, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 381 | Recorded: November 3, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Georgian Elections Outcome
* Political Landscape
* Effect on Armenia and Beyond
Episode 381 | Recorded: November 3, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="in-the-wake-of-the-georgian-election">In the Wake of the Georgian Election</h1>
<h2 id="election-outcome">Election Outcome</h2>
<p>To sum up the results, the ruling party Georgian Dream got around 54 percent of the votes, while 4 opposition parties overcame the 5 percent threshold. Despite criticism, the OSCE and international observers have essentially accepted the election results and are ready to work with the new government.</p>
<p>Not so with the US (and supported by the <a href="https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/28/eu-calls-for-swift-probe-of-alleged-georgian-election-irregularities">EU</a>). Secretary of State Blinken <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/631791">called</a> for a full investigation into “breaches of international norms” during the elections. In that vein, Georgian president Salome Zourabishvili and the opposition parties are <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-parliamentary-vote-violence-intimidation-russia-west/33175194.html">rejecting</a> the election results, and also alleging that there was Russian interference without providing supporting evidence. She and umbrella civil society NGO “My Vote” are <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/631251">alleging</a> systematic and massive voter fraud affecting over 300,000 votes, and demanding the annulment of the election results.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of the situation on the ground 4 days after the elections?</li>
<li>Have you seen evidence of external interference?
<ul>
<li>If yes: who? What was the outcome?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is there any direct evidence that Russia rigged the elections, that votes were stolen during the elections?</li>
<li>Is there a gap in the attitudes of the US vs the EU, regarding acceptance of these election results?</li>
<li>Is it a good thing or a bad thing that the ruling party fell short of achieving a parliamentary supermajority?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="regional-votes">Regional Votes</h3>
<p>Georgia has 3-4 major cities and 3-4 major regions or provinces. Armenians were especially tuned into the region of Samtskhe-Javakheti, just north of the Armenian border, where over half the population is Armenian. But there are also Adjaria, the Marneuli region with a strong Azeri population, etc. Interestingly, Georgian Dream got an overwhelming majority both in Armenian and Azeri communities.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are the populations in the regions engaged in the political life of Georgia? Why did Armenians vote overwhelmingly for GD?</li>
<li>Some pro-EU Georgian politicians appeared to blame minorities, including Armenians, for the GD victory, such as when Zurabichvili used the term “Armenian carousel”. Is this an isolated event or is anti-Armenian xenophobia or politicization of the Armenian voters a common occurrence in Georgian politics?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgia---armenia-strategic-partnership">Georgia - Armenia Strategic Partnership</h2>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is this strategic partnership about?</li>
<li>Is there a document or treaty signed? Or just a declaration?</li>
<li>Why was defense explicitly excluded from the agreement?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="effect-on-armenia-and-beyond">Effect on Armenia and Beyond</h2>
<p>With Georgia shifting to a more balanced foreign policy, is it time for Armenia also to move away from a black-and-white pro-western policy in the region, to a more balanced approach? While all the other countries do not want to see western presence in the south caucasus, Armenia is the only one introducing them, so - is it time to reconsider?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does this Georgian election outcome affect Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/381/thumbnail-381.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/381/thumbnail-381.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/16038337-johnny-g-melikian-georgia-elections-outcome-political-landscape-effect-on-armenia-ep-381-nov-3-2024.mp3" length="42315743" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3523</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Harut Sassounian - Armenian American and the 2024 US Presidential Elections | Ep 380 - Nov 2, 2024
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Do Minor Candidates Matter for us?
Are We Organized Enough to Influence US Elections?
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Episode 380 | Recorded: November 1, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenian-americans-and-the-2024-us-presidential-elections">Armenian Americans and the 2024 US Presidential Elections</h1>
<p>When it comes to the two major presidential candidates, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, their records are pretty dismal. In fact, some would say that their records have been inimical to Armenia.</p>
<p>During Trump’s term, the United States continued to provide military aid to Azerbaijan. Trump <a href="https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-22-104619">continued</a> to <a href="https://www.gao.gov/assets/720/718806.pdf">waive</a> Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act until the start of the 2020 war. Trump was unable or unwilling to deter Turkey, a NATO member, from directly participating in the 2020 war, which was a decisive factor in Azerbaijan’s criminal war.</p>
<p>In his first year as president, Biden finally <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/04/24/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-armenian-remembrance-day/">recognized</a> the Armenian Genocide but the next day, he proceded to <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/551577-biden-waiving-restriction-blocking-aid-to-azerbaijan-over-armenia/">waive</a> Section 907 again, enabling the US government to continue to provide military aid to Azerbaijan. On the eve of the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in 2023, US officials <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/750248/us-will-not-tolerate-ethnic-cleansing-in-nagorno-karabakh-state-department-official-says/">vowed</a> that they would not tolerate a military attack by Azerbaijan and any attempt to “ethnically cleanse” a severely weakened Artsakh, left to its own devices by the government of Nikol Pashinyan. Artsakh was wiped out in an extremely violent military attack in September 2023 and almost immediately, US and Azerbaijan relations went back to “business as usual”.</p>
<p>Fast forward to the lead-up of the elections that are due to take place in less than a week and both campaigns made statements about Artsakh.</p>
<ul>
<li>On September 21, <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/09/24/forty-days-from-election-kamala-harris-starts-courting-armenian-american-voters/092324_harris_armenianstatement_print/">Harris sent a letter</a> on the occasion of Armenian independence day and affirmed the Armenian Genocide, stated her support for a lasting peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and she expressed support for “the right for Armenians displaced from Nagorno-Karabakh to return return safely to their homes”.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, Trump <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33171862.html">slammed</a> Harris for doing nothing while in office during the ethnic cleansing of Christian Armenians. He said: “<em>When I am President, I will protect persecuted Christians, I will work to stop the violence and ethnic cleansing, and we will restore PEACE between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</em>” He also uttered the term “Artsakh”.</li>
</ul>
<p>In this presidential race, Armenian Americans seem to be not a subject in the discussion, but an object. In fact, we seem to be the punchline of their jokes.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of the Harris and Trump administrations? And how should the Armenian community act in these elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>Note:</p>
<ul>
<li>Harut Sassounian’s article in The California Courier titled “<a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/presidential-candidates-issue-pro-artsakh-statements-you-decide-who-to-vote-for-by-harut-sassounian/">Presidential Candidates Issue pro-Artsakh Statements: You Decide Who to Vote for…</a>”</li>
</ul>
<p>Aram Hamparian, in <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/378">Episode 378</a>, informed us that the ANCA is withholding its <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/10/04/anca-endorses-pro-armenian-congressional-candidates/">recommendation</a> for the presidential candidate.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think about this policy?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are other candidates on the presidential ballot, like the Green Party’s Jill Stein, a perennial presence, sort of like a modern day Ralph Nader. Outraged at US military <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#:~:text=Biden%20signed%20a%20%2495%20billion,in%20humanitarian%20aid%20for%20Gaza">support</a> for Israel, which is currently engaged in genocide in Gaza, the Arab and Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC) has <a href="https://www.jillstein2024.com/ampac_endorses_dr_jill_stein_for_president">endorsed</a> Stein.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Would something like this have worked for Armenian Americans as well?
<ul>
<li>Do these minor candidates matter for us?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are we organized enough to do something like this in future elections where the race provides the opportunity?</li>
<li>What is your sense of the Armenian American vote, this late in the cycle?</li>
<li>Regardless of how Armenians vote, thinking about the wider geopolitical implications, how would a Trump or Harris victory affect Armenia and its region?</li>
<li>What about their different effects on the war on Gaza and now Lebanon as well?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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* European Parliament Resolution
Episode 379 | Recorded: October 29, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="brics-summit">BRICS Summit</h2>
<p>During the BRICS summit held last week in Kazan, Russia, Armenia participated as an observer. While Pashinyan acknowledged the group’s agenda positively, the Armenian Foreign Ministry <a href="https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/106857/">emphasized</a> that Armenia has no plans to become a BRICS member.</p>
<p>A notable <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33171946.html">outcome</a> of Armenia&rsquo;s participation was Pashinyan’s meeting with Ilham Aliyev. In a short statement released afterwards, they instructed their foreign ministers to continue peace deal discussions “in order to finalize and sign it as soon as possible.” Pashinyan at the summit repeated that at least 80-90% of the content of the so-called peace deal is finalized and expressed his readiness to sign an interim document with only the content that is so far agreed upon, but in the past Azerbaijan has repeatedly stood its ground, demanding that complete agreement is reached on all points.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Let’s begin with BRICS, the organization. What is the benefit to Armenia for joining BRICS? And why won’t Armenia join it?</li>
<li>What did Aliyev and Pashinyan talk about?</li>
<li>In September, both Pashinyan and Aliyev had said that 80% of the document is already agreed upon. Now it’s become 80-90%. What new agreements have been reached?</li>
<li>Is it possible that Aliyev will, at the last moment, agree to sign some kind of document that Pashinyan will present as a peace deal, as vacuous that deal may be?
<ul>
<li>If only to affect internal Armenian politics and give Pashinyan a campaign tool. Pashinyan can say: “see I brought peace” and win the next elections.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---azerbaijan">Armenia - Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>A number of developments occurred this past week in the realm of the Armenian Azerbaijani so-called peace process. While almost two weeks ago the US State Department <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33166927.html">appeared to downplay</a> expectations of an imminent deal, this past week Joe Biden’s special envoy Michael Carpenter visited Baku and Yerevan to urge <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33166927.html">Aliyev</a> and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33168394.html">Pashinyan</a> to finalize an agreement.</p>
<p>As we discussed in our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/376-sergei-melkonian-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-elections-in-moldova-georgia-iran-russia-relations-brics-in-kazan-russia/">previous Week In Review</a> (episode 376, with Sergei Melkonian), at the conclusion of the 3+3 meeting in Istanbul, Armenia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33170769.html">rejected</a> a proposal by the “Big 3” to move the peace process to that platform.</p>
<p>Finally, apparently right after the BRICS summit, the Azerbaijani government announced that Aliyev had <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33173279.html">signed</a> the agreement on border demarcation principles. On the Armenian side, this agreement was railroaded by Pashinyan through the government’s rubber stamp machinery, the Armenian Constitutional Court, and the Parliament. And of course, Armenia’s president, also rubber stamped the document, apparently <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/10/25/Armenia-s-President-signed-law-on-ratifying-regulation-of-border-delimitation-commissions/1209691">shortly before</a> Aliyev signed it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s in this demarcation and delimitation principles agreement, and does it give Armenia anything?
<ul>
<li>The agreement basically says that the two countries can agree to anything and move forward on the basis of that agreement.</li>
<li>No maps were specified, there was nothing concrete to hold on to as a principle.</li>
<li>In fact, the Armenian government <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33167032.html">admitted</a> that different maps will be used for different regions of the border, despite previously saying that the Alma Ata declaration specified a distinct border at the time of the dissolution of the USSR.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What was Michael Carpenter’s message to Aliyev and Pashinyan? Has it lit some fire under Aliyev to move towards an agreement?</li>
<li>How can Armenia find value in the 3+3 platform?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="potential-withdrawal-of-eu-monitors">Potential Withdrawal of EU Monitors</h3>
<p>The agreement on the EU Monitoring mission in Armenia was <a href="https://www.eeas.europa.eu/euma/about-european-union-mission-armenia_en?s=410283">signed</a> in February 2023 and is due to expire in 2 years, that is in 2024. The Armenian government had previously justified this mission, armed only with binoculars, as an additional layer of security.</p>
<p>At the same time as there are <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/eu_is_considering_extending_its_monitoring_mission_in_armenia_mirzoyan/">discussions</a> in Armenian political circles on renewing the monitoring agreement, Azerbaijan has increased its rhetoric against the EUMA. Azerbaijani media is replete with negative articles about the mission, claiming that the mission is collecting intelligence on Azerbaijan. And recently, Aliyev himself <a href="https://azertag.az/en/xeber/president_ilham_aliyev_received_credentials_of_incoming_ambassador_of_belgium_to_azerbaijan_video-3227574">complained</a> that the EU mission was prolonged without consulting Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>And in his speech in parliament, the foreign minister of Armenia Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://infocom.am/hy/article/141251">said</a> that as long as there is no signed “peace treaty”, then Armenia continues to have concerns about Azerbaijani actions and therefore a “neutral third party” is justified.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Does Mirzoyan’s statement imply that the EU monitors may leave after an agreement is signed?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="cop29">COP29</h3>
<p>Members of the Armenian government are now discussing the <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1203239">level of participation</a> at Azerbaijan’s COP29 climate change conference. So it’s clear that they intend to attend.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Should Armenia go? What’s in it for Armenia, to go to Baku and legitimize Aliyev’s horrible human rights violations, holding onto Armenian prisoners or war, etc?
<ul>
<li>Is it Pashinyan government’s official policy to legitimize Aliyev’s record of ethnic cleansing? Because <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33168158.html">according to Alen Simonyan</a>, Aliyev had every right to attack Artsakh and depopulate it.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="euro-parliament-resolution">Euro Parliament Resolution</h2>
<p>On October 24 the European parliament <a href="https://jam-news.net/european-parliament-resolution-on-violations-in-azerbaijan/">passed</a> a <a href="https://oeil.secure.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?lang=en&amp;reference=2024/2890(RSP)">resolution</a> addressing the human rights situation in Azerbaijan, as well as its relations with Armenia. The resolution demands Azerbaijan to withdraw from sovereign Armenian territory, and prescribes readiness to apply sanctions if Azerbaijan doesn’t. The resolution also proposes support for Armenia through the European Peace Facility, as well as extending the mission of the EU observers in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can be expected from such resolutions, considering that the executive body of the EU conducts policies completely orthogonal to the spirit of such resolutions?</li>
<li>We know that the Canadian foreign ministry made such announcements. The presidential candidates in the US are talking about it. Even if the Armenian government’s policy is to not strive for the rights and security of the ethnically cleansed population of Artsakh, can interest groups who have a stake in the issue use such announcements and resolutions?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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* Arab-Americans Still Uncommitted
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Episode 378 | Recorded: October 25, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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Episode 378 | Recorded: October 25, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
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* On the Major Presidential Candidates
* Arab-Americans Still Uncommitted
* Where is the Armenian Vote?
Episode 378 | Recorded: October 25, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="the-hamparian-flag">The Hamparian Flag</h2>
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<h2 id="grading-methodology">Grading Methodology</h2>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How does the ANCA assess, or grade, elected politicians on Armenian-American issues?</li>
<li>Are there any candidates who stand out and were essentially no-brainer recommendations for the ANCA?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="presidential-candidates">Presidential Candidates</h2>
<p>When it comes to the two major presidential candidates, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, their records are pretty dismal.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of Harris and Trump?</li>
<li>What’s the ANCA’s guidance on how to vote for president?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are other candidates on the presidential ballot, like the Green Party’s Jill Stein, a perennial presence, sort of like a modern day Ralph Nader.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do these minor candidates matter for us?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past weeks we heard from both Harris and Trump pandering to the Armenian-American vote.</p>
<ul>
<li>On September 21, <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/09/24/forty-days-from-election-kamala-harris-starts-courting-armenian-american-voters/092324_harris_armenianstatement_print/">Harris sent a letter</a> on the occasion of Armenian independence day and affirmed the Armenian Genocide, stated her support for a lasting peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and she wrote: “the right for Armenians displaced from Nagorno-Karabakh to return return safely to their homes”.</li>
<li>Two days ago Trump <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33171862.html">slammed</a> Harris (I think it was on TruthSocial) for doing nothing while in office during the ethnic cleansing of Christian Armenians. He said: “<em>When I am President, I will protect persecuted Christians, I will work to stop the violence and ethnic cleansing, and we will restore PEACE between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</em>”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts? Is there any substance here, or is it all just electioneering and pandering?</li>
</ul>
<p>One aspect of Trump’s statement caught our eyes. He said: “<em>Kamala Harris did NOTHING as 120,000 Armenian Christians were horrifically persecuted and forcibly displaced in Artsakh</em>”. Now that is a very specific assertion, and the term “Artsakh” is almost exclusively used by Armenians, it hardly ever enters the lexicon of American presidents. Interestingly Trump has some advisors and supporters in his close circle, like former presidential candidates Vivek Ramaswamy, Tulsi Gabbard, and Robert Kennedy Jr, all of whom have shown support and friendship to the Armenian community over the years.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did this Trump statement come about? Why is it so specific, and uses “Artsakh” instead of Nagorno-Karabakh?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="arab-american-vote">Arab American Vote</h3>
<p>Earlier this year the Arab-Americans initiated a national “<a href="https://apnews.com/article/uncommitted-biden-trump-war-15f96be36b4d5ac167c7ceda72fe65d1">Uncommitted</a>” movement to tell Biden, and then Harris that their support is not a sure thing, that was in the Democratic primary. I think they’ve been heard loud and clear, but Harris has remained staunchly pro-Israel, and all-in on funding Israel’s war on Gaza despite the killing of over 40,000 Palestinians there. So the Arab-American community is furious and is recommending not to vote for Harris. Some groups are even pushing to use Jill Stein as a protest vote. This has the Dems worried that if Arab Americans stay away from the top of the Democratic ticket, they could lose Michigan, which is a key battleground state this year.</p>
<h3 id="strategy-and-solidarity">Strategy and Solidarity</h3>
<p>Armenians have a few stronghold states; California, Massachusetts, Michigan; there are healthy and active communities in DC, Pennsylvania; growing communities in Nevada, Arizona, Florida.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s preventing Armenian-Americans from coalescing around a national consensus to vote for a candidate, or not vote for a candidate?
<ul>
<li>With your estimated 2 million Armenian-Americans, if a third of them show up to vote that is 6-700K votes, and that matters.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What do we need to do to achieve solidarity, unity around such issues?</li>
</ul>
<p>Notes:</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 377 | Recorded: October 23, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="introduction">Introduction</h1>
<p>Hello, and welcome to this <strong>Conversations on Groong</strong> episode.</p>
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<p>Today we’re talking about the upcoming 2024 Parliamentary elections in Georgia. These elections are set to take place on October 26 in just 3 days. The country is at a crossroads, caught between its modern efforts to join Europe and trying to remain grounded in the geopolitical realities of the region. For the political forces taking part, the stakes have never been higher. We’ll be diving deep into the dynamics of the election campaigns, key players, and the broader context of Georgia’s growing tensions with its Western partners.</p>
<p>To help us unpack all of this, we have with us Sopo Japaridze, who has been closely following and covering these developments. Welcome back, Sopo!</p>
<h1 id="georgian-elections-in-2024">Georgian Elections in 2024</h1>
<p>To set the stage, we should mention that Sopo has been following the 2024 Georgian parliamentary elections closely through her own <a href="https://substack.com/@sopjap">ongoing coverage on her Substack</a>. We’re putting a link to her very interesting Substack page in our show notes, so please go there and click your way through to her work.</p>
<p>In a detailed six-part series, she and her guests have provided valuable insights into the key issues shaping this election, from political party dynamics to foreign influences and public sentiment. Her series, which starts with an overview of the election landscape and progresses through the campaigning strategies and media narratives, is an excellent resource for anyone looking to understand what’s at stake for Georgia. Again you can check out her work on <a href="Substack.com/@sopio">Substack.com/@sopio</a>, starting with her comprehensive election guide in Episode 1.</p>
<p>In our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/categories/georgia/">previous episodes</a> on Groong, we’ve also explored many of these themes, including Georgia’s complex relationship with the West, the role of Russia, and the country’s evolving domestic politics. You can find those under Content -&gt; Categories -&gt; Georgia on our website.</p>
<p>Today, we’ll continue that conversation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Sopo, could you start by giving us a high-level summary of where things stand today, 3 days before Election Day?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="current-election-landscape">Current Election Landscape</h2>
<p>In our previous discussions with our Georgian guests we have discussed election poll results, such as Gobi, Edison Research, etc.</p>
<p>Let’s take a quick look at the polls, which vary significantly based on the pollster, despite being carried out in the same time frame.</p>
<p>Polls considered:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://formulanews.ge/News/118858">Edison Research</a></li>
<li><a href="https://imedinews.ge/ge/archevnebi-2024/358938/gorbis-kvleva-saparlamento-archevnebi-am-kviras-rom-tardebodes-qartuli-otsneba-khmata-602s-miigebda">GORBI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mtavari.tv/news/167858-kartuli-otsneba-61-opozitsia-89-mandati-britanuli">Savanta</a></li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We’ve frequently heard that polls in Georgia are politicized? What’s your take? Do you think any of these polls provide valuable insight into popular sentiment, one way or another? And also, how did they change over time?</li>
<li>Is a high voter turnout expected, and whom does that benefit more?</li>
<li>Which of the major political alliances are most likely to form coalitions with each other? (without going into too much details)</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="campaigning-overview">Campaigning Overview</h3>
<p>Let’s talk about the campaign process a bit.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How have the campaigns unfolded? Can you summarize this for us?</li>
<li>What were the key challenges for candidates and political parties?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="themes-of-the-campaign">Themes of the Campaign</h2>
<p>The key line of political demarcation in this election, or should we say geopolitical demarcation is the level of Georgia’s commitment to the EU/NATO.</p>
<ul>
<li>In Western media, the narrative is framed as “if GD wins, then Russia wins” and Georgia will pivot towards Russia.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, voices grounded in realpolitik have a more nuanced definition. That GD’s policies simply seek good relations with all its neighbors, or more precisely avoid enmity with major powers such as Russia, China and Iran.</li>
</ul>
<p>This has overshadowed many other issues and divisions in Georgian society; for example liberal vs. conservative values, earlier this year we saw attacks on the Georgian Orthodox Church, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key national, and social values that are on the line during these elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>Several days ago, Ivanishvili made a bombshell revelation on Georgian TV. He claimed that a western official had suggested that Georgia open a “second front” against Russia in the current war. We’ve frequently been hearing Ukrainian media as well that Georgia should open a second front.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us the details of how this happened and the significance of this announcement/revelation?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="media-coverage">Media Coverage</h3>
<p>Western media, which supports the opposition, has given heavy emphasis to covering the anti-government protests in Tbilisi, LGBT rights and legislation that affect these communities.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the media supporting the incumbent GD talks about apartment laws, confederation with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and so on.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your take on the talk about Georgian confederation with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, do you think these are red herring issues dangled to tilt the Georgian elections towards Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="comparison-with-moldova">Comparison with Moldova</h2>
<p>Moldova held elections over this past weekend. The OSCE <a href="https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/578845">qualified it</a> a “well managed and competitive” election. <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/21/moldova-eu-membership-referendum-hangs-in-the-balance-early-results-show">So far it looks like</a> a bare majority of 50.39% voted to seek membership in the EU.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does the outcome in Moldova impact on Georgia?</li>
<li>Are there parallels between the Moldovan and Georgian election dynamics?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="election-forecast--what-comes-next">Election Forecast &amp; What Comes Next</h2>
<p>Almost everyone we’ve talked to expects unrest, and potential violence after the election, because they say no matter what happens, the other side is poised to reject the results and take to the streets.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you expect on Election day, and its aftermath? What potential scenarios do you foresee in post-election developments?
<ul>
<li>(I’m sure we’ll touch base in the days or weeks after the results are well known)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="regional-implications">Regional Implications</h3>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What could the election results mean for Armenia, Azerbaijan, and the region as a whole?</li>
<li>How might shifts in Georgia’s political landscape affect its relationships with its neighbors?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<h3 id="33-meeting-in-istanbul">3+3 Meeting In Istanbul</h3>
<p>After Moscow and Tehran, this year it was Istanbul&rsquo;s turn to hold the <a href="https://nournews.ir/en/news/194743/Iran-welcomes-progress-in-Armenia-Azerbaijan-peace-talks">third meeting</a> of the so-called “3+3” platform, which took place this past week. During the summit, Mirzoyan met with Bayramov, as part of the current bilateral format of meetings.</p>
<p>We’re not aware of any results, at least none were reported, but the “Big 3”, Russia, Turkey and Iran <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1202659">proposed</a> to Armenia and Azerbaijan to move their “peace process” negotiations to the 3+3, in order to achieve a regional solution. At this time neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan have responded to the offer.</p>
<p>We’re not sure what else was discussed, but the Armenia-Azerbaijan process seems to have been the most dominant topic for this year’s 3+3 summit.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the prospects for Armenia and Azerbaijan agreeing to move negotiations under the auspices of 3+3? Would such a move be advantageous, or disadvantageous for Armenia?
<ul>
<li>Another Turkish agenda for this meeting seems to have been for Turkey and Azerbaijan to work on softening Iran’s red lines regarding their so-called “Zangezur corridor”. Are there scenarios in which we could see Iran compromising on its border with Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>We know in the past, various superpowers have offered to mediate the process. From the mediator&rsquo;s perspective, why is having the “peace process” under the auspices of the West or Russia or now the 3+3 so important?</li>
<li>What other major topics were on the 3+3 agenda?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh-armenian-repatriation">Artsakh Armenian Repatriation?</h3>
<p>This past week Maria Zakharova, the spokeswoman for the Russian MFA, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33162751.html">stated</a> that there was, and still is an open opportunity for Artsakh’s Armenians to repatriate to their homes. She went on to praise Azerbaijan’s “constructive approach” to allow Armenians to move back to their homes.</p>
<p>Needless to say, absolutely nobody expects Artsakh Armenians to move their families back into killing fields, and risk genocide. Not the Russians, not the Azeris, not the Armenians, or Artsakhtsis, nor anyone in the west.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the politics behind this claim by Zakharova?
<ul>
<li>Is this a red herring topic? Is this a carrot to the Armenian leadership? Or is this a blame-shifting tactic because both countries have a heavy responsibility in the total ethnic cleansing of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Under what political circumstances could, or would Armenians move back to their homes in Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="elections-in-moldova-and-georgia">Elections in Moldova and Georgia</h2>
<p>Moldova was holding parliamentary elections yesterday, October 20, 2024. Georgia will hold them over this coming weekend, on October 26.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the main outcome scenarios?</li>
<li>How do they affect the geopolitics around the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia---iran-relations">Russia - Iran Relations</h2>
<p>The presidents of Iran and Russia met in Turkmenistan 10 days ago. It appears to have been scheduled as a quick touch base ahead of the BRICS summit in Kazan where it is anticipated that a new strategic partnership agreement may be signed. Putin <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-begins-visit-turkmenistan-says-kremlin-2024-10-11/">said</a>: “our assessments of current events in the world are often very close”.</p>
<p>This is happening in the backdrop of a major potential regional escalation. We know that currently Iran is bracing for a “lethal” and “surprising” attack <a href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-lezbollah-war-news-10-09-2024-31a2dff9a2bb49bc3b76f32b1ddee128">promised</a> by Israel. Depending on how big the attack is, there are predictions of a major regional war looming. Which makes the dynamics of the Russia-Iran relations all the more interesting.</p>
<p>On the ground, in the Caucasus, it seems that Russia and Iran have publicly disagreed at least on one aspect, which is the communications between Azerbaijan and Nakhijevan via Armenia, the infamous point #9 of the November 9-10 statement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What areas do Russia and Iran agree on, and more importantly, disagree on?</li>
<li>How do developments in the war in Gaza and Israel affect the relationship between Russia and Iran?
<ul>
<li>Does the potential strategic partnership agreement include a military component?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="likelihood-of-a-major-israeli-attack-on-iran">Likelihood of a Major Israeli Attack on Iran</h3>
<p>After significant blows to Hamas and Hezbollah leadership, the pager attacks, the Haniyeh assassination in Tehran, etc. Israel has been bombing South Lebanon and Beirut. Some analysts say that the assassinations of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders have left Iran weakened and exposed, and Israel has basically dared them into a direct confrontation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does Iran have any red lines in the Middle East, and does it want direct confrontation with Israel?</li>
<li>The bombing of Lebanon represents a major escalation already, do you see the Gaza war expanding further?
<ul>
<li>For example, Israel has been talking about a direct attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, or its energy infrastructure.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is Russia’s perspective on the expanding crisis around Israel?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan provides Israel with 40% of its oil. Despite the ongoing war, Israel continues to heavily arm Azerbaijan. So this is a symbiotic relationship between two rabidly aggressive states.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What expectations of Azerbaijan does Israel have, should its conflict with Iran flare up into a direct war?</li>
<li>What dangers does it pose for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="brics-summit">BRICS Summit</h2>
<p>This week the 16th annual BRICS summit is due to take place in Kazan, Russia. (Starts tomorrow.) There are some new membership applications, among them Azerbaijan’s. Armenia will attend as an observer; Pashinyan and Putin are expected to meet on the sidelines of the summit.</p>
<p>BRICS is not a military alliance, it’s more of a loosely coupled grouping of countries that are concerned about the economic hegemony of the west, the dollar, the weaponization of sanctions, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>First, how would you characterize what BRICS is?</li>
<li>What are the key agenda items on the summit’s radar?</li>
<li>Why is Turkey hedging its bets and has not yet applied for membership?</li>
<li>Should small countries like Armenia and Georgia consider joining BRICS?
<ul>
<li>What would be the advantages or disadvantages?</li>
<li>Should Armenia be worried about Azerbaijan joining BRICS?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Armenian POWs and hostages are still in Azerbaijan. Actively demand their release, tweet with hashtag #COP29
<ul>
<li>Where are Pashinyan &amp; Anna Hakobyan&rsquo;s &ldquo;11,000 deserters and traitors” who lost the 44-day war?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Sergei</strong>: Azerbaijani parliament formed a committee on “Western Azerbaijan”, where is the response?
<ul>
<li>Demand the return of Artsakh Armenians. Our Nation must preserve its long memory and stick to its values and agenda.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions under our Youtube videos, and you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
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* Elections and Potential Political Pivot
* Influences on Georgian Identity
* Georgia-Armenia Relations
Episode 375 | Recorded: October 15, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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* Elections and Potential Political Pivot
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* Georgia-Armenia Relations
Episode 375 | Recorded: October 15, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="political-science-and-politics-in-georgia">Political Science and Politics in Georgia</h1>
<p>Since this is your first time with us, would you tell us about yourself, and the interests that have led you to explore political science, and what drew you to your specific field of research?</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did your academic journey, from studying at RUDN in Moscow to your work at Caucasus International University in Georgia, shape your perspectives on the region’s political landscape?</li>
<li>Can you share what inspired you to focus specifically on the intersection of media studies and regime transformation in the South Caucasus? What are the most pressing challenges in this area today?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-science-in-georgia">Political Science in Georgia</h2>
<p>In your recent <a href="https://www.interanalytics.org/jour/article/view/555/461">paper</a> “Political Science in Georgia: Epistemology and Determinants”, which you co-authored with Dr. Archil Sikharulidze, a guest and friend of our podcast, you discuss the state of Political Science as a field of study in Georgia. You note the heavy influence of Western theories, such as liberalism, neoliberalism, institutional liberalism, etc. and the  role of external actors like the US and the EU, in shaping academia in post-Soviet Georgia, where the absence of a deeply rooted field of study led to an emphasis on democracy promotion and civic education, rather than a critical search for alternative approaches to political studies. You also argue that the fact that  Georgia scholars in this field relied heavily on Western funding may have influenced the situation on the ground.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you provide more details about your paper?</li>
<li>How has political science in Georgia developed, particularly in relation to Western influence? Since you studied Russian soft power, is there Russian influence as well?</li>
</ul>
<p>In your paper, you found that 78.6% of the papers relied on liberal theories.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/375/figure1.webp" alt="alt_text"  title="image_tooltip" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Let’s talk about your methodology, do you believe that your access to the published papers was sufficient and representative of everything that was published?</li>
</ul>
<p>The study lists a large number of universities that were considered in your study.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/375/table1.webp" alt="alt_text"  title="image_tooltip" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Did all of these universities contribute the same amount of papers? Is there a difference between public and private universities?</li>
</ul>
<p>In your paper, you talk about the determinants of the current epistemological approaches as: “the higher education system reform conducted in the aftermath of the Rose Revolution, Civic Education as the foundation of the higher education system, and, finally, the overwhelming influence of Western financial assistance.”</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How does financial dependency on Western grants and scholarships impact academic freedom and the diversity of research topics in Georgia?</li>
<li>Is this an issue on the Georgian government’s radar as a problem to address?</li>
<li>How does the Western influence in Georgian academia impact the national identity of ordinary Georgians?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="politics-and-the-potential-pivot-away-from-the-west">Politics and the Potential Pivot Away from the West</h2>
<p>We recently had a conversation with your colleague Dr. Nikoloz Bitsadze (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/370">Ep. 370</a>, on our Youtube page). The discussion centered on the potential shift in Georgia’s political landscape, including tensions around aligning with Western institutions such as the EU and NATO. In the coming elections in two weeks there is a real possibility that we’ll see Georgia shifting gears, or as the West likes to say, “pivoting away from the West”, or “turning Eastward”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How significant is this potential pivot away from the West, and what are the main drivers behind this shift?
<ul>
<li>How much of Georgia&rsquo;s political direction is influenced by internal party politics versus external pressures from larger geopolitical players such as Russia or the EU?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What role does public opinion play in this shift? Are there changing perceptions among the Georgian population about Western alliances, and how does the media influence these views?</li>
<li>With the 2024 elections only two weeks away, how do you see these dynamics playing out? Could the election results signal a major shift in Georgia’s foreign policy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgia-armenia-relations">Georgia-Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>Modern relations between Georgia and Armenia are by and large cordial but generally not particularly warm. Theoretically our governments would have us believe that relations will be better now that there is a so-called “strategic partnership” that was signed at the start of 2024.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why are relations between the two countries cordial but not warm?
<ul>
<li>The two peoples have lived together for centuries, yet there is very little awareness, or political interaction between the two. So: why?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is needed for Armenians and Georgians, neighbors after all who don’t have a major history of animosity, to achieve solidarity and unity on issues of historic truth?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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        Week in Review - 10/13/2024
        
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#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Escalates Threats
* Russia-Armenia Relations
* Eat Rice, not Wheat, Have some Cold Winters!
* Srbazan Movement Update
* Regional Geopolitics
* Iran-Russia
* Israel-Iran
* Georgian Elections
Episode 374 | Recorded: October 14, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Escalates Threats
* Russia-Armenia Relations
* Eat Rice, not Wheat, Have some Cold Winters!
* Srbazan Movement Update
* Regional Geopolitics
* Iran-Russia
* Israel-Iran
* Georgian Elections
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Escalates Threats
* Russia-Armenia Relations
* Eat Rice, not Wheat, Have some Cold Winters!
* Srbazan Movement Update
* Regional Geopolitics
* Iran-Russia
* Israel-Iran
* Georgian Elections
Episode 374 | Recorded: October 14, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-escalates-threats">Azerbaijan Escalates Threats</h2>
<p>Azerbaijani MOD <a href="https://mod.gov.az/en/news/colonel-general-zakir-hasanov-our-primary-objective-is-to-enhance-military-power-and-combat-capability-as-well-as-train-53112.html">held an official meeting</a>, involving major divisions and leadership of their armed forces. The message communicated through their announcement was “to be ready to take preventive measures against all possible provocations of revanchist forces on the conditional border”.</p>
<p>That Azerbaijan is building up and getting ready for some kind of provocation is beyond doubt. But experts we’ve previously talked to say that Azerbaijan would not go for such a move preceding or during COP29 which is planned to be held in Baku between Nov 11 - 22, due to reputational concerns.</p>
<p>While threats from Azerbaijan may appear to be a regular occurrence, we know that such meetings and announcements have in the past coincided with major periods of escalation. For instance, right before the 44-day war in 2020, and also before the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in September 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the purpose of Azerbaijan’s escalation of tensions?</li>
<li>Is it possible that Azerbaijan may use the time preceding COP29 as a smokescreen to make a land grab?</li>
</ul>
<p>About 10 days ago the constitutional court published a decision that the Declaration of Independence does not amount to law, and therefore did not present a territorial claim on Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan was quick to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33149342.html">rebuff</a> the decision and deemed it unsatisfactory, and renewed its demand for Armenia to change its constitution.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Could this current round of escalation and threats be a reaction to that decision?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan is presenting the demarcation and delimitation plan as Armenia’s “land deed”. Every Armenian government official was saying that with the signing of the Demarcation and Delimitation principles, Azerbaijan would agree to the de-facto borders of the Soviet Armenian republic, repeatedly bringing up Alma Ata.</p>
<p>Yet, while the agreement has not even been ratified yet, Azerbaijan began <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33151274.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&amp;aoh=17285362965757&amp;referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com">downplaying</a> the significance of the Alma Ata declaration. The spokesperson of the Azerbaijani MFA said: “The Alma-Ata Declaration has nothing to do with the question of where the borders of CIS member states lie and which territories belong to which country”</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who is right and who is wrong? And does it really matter if Azerbaijan is explicitly saying that the Alma Ata declaration means nothing in the context of borders?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia---armenia-relations">Russia - Armenia Relations</h2>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-moscow">Pashinyan in Moscow</h3>
<p>Last weekend, on October 7 and 8, Both Pashinyan and Aliyev were in Moscow for the Commonwealth of Independence States (CIS) summit. Both of them <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33151102.html">met</a> with Putin separately.</p>
<p>Official Russian state media shared (and then later removed) unflattering images of Pashinyan, including an image where Aliyev and Lukashenko look like they’re having a serious discussion while Pashinyan was in the background mucking around with his espresso cup, trying hard to get the last drop in his mouth. Another image showed Pashinyan looking down next to the Azerbaijani flag.</p>
<p>Upon his return, Pashinyan’s office announced that Russian border guards would <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33151383.html">withdraw</a> from their duties on the Armenian-Iranian border, and Armenia’s border guard service would assume that responsibility. Additionally, it was mentioned that Armenia would begin to participate in the border guard duties with Russia, along the Armenian-Turkish border.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the Kremlin trying to communicate through its media? How was the coverage of Pashinyan in general?</li>
<li>What else was on the agenda of the Pashinyan-Putin meeting?</li>
<li>What was on the Putin-Aliyev meeting agenda?</li>
</ul>
<p>A trilateral Putin-Pashinyan-Aliyev meeting did not take place, reportedly because Pashinyan declined. And after Pashinyan’s visit to Moscow, various Russian officials made statements relevant to Armenia. For example, Alexei Overchuk stated that Russia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33152459.html">must</a> have a key role in the opening of Armenian-Azerbaijani transportation links; both <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33153847.html">Baku</a> and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33149628.html">Moscow</a> expressed renewed concern about the EU MIssion in Armenia (EUMA).</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the purpose of the Azerbaijani criticism of the EU Mission in Armenia, what are they trying to achieve?
<ul>
<li>Note: The Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, Kerim Veliyev, complained to the Director of the International Military Staff of NATO, Janush Adamchuk in Baku that the presence of the EU observation mission on the territory of Armenia &ldquo;further aggravates the situation&rdquo;.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Has the EUMA been a beneficial presence for Armenia?</li>
<li>It’s pretty clear that, similar to New York and with Blinken a couple of weeks ago, nothing was achieved in Moscow and Putin. Are talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan stalled?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eat-rice-not-wheat-and-have-some-cold-winters">Eat Rice, Not Wheat (and have some cold winters!)</h3>
<p>In a conference organized by the Civil Contract party, titled “Crossroads of Peace”, Armen Grigoryan recently <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EznsD9PKFQ0">revealed</a> some more information on what was discussed at the April 5 meeting in Brussels between Blinken, Von Der Leyen and Pashinyan. Apparently food security was on the table (no pun intended).</p>
<p>In his speech, Grigoryan casually talks about diversifying away from Armenia’s reliance on Russian wheat, by moving to rice instead. This is reminiscent of the <a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/09/supporting-armenias-democracy-and-western-future?lang=en">remark</a> from Dan Baer that Armenia should be prepared to endure some “cold winters”.</p>
<p>Background notes from journalist Sevak Hakobyan’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10234342522603682">post</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia imports 70 percent of wheat</li>
<li>Our self-sufficiency is about 30 percent</li>
<li>Armenia annually received about 70 thousand tons of wheat from Artsakh, which is 12-15 percent of demand, before Pashinyan transferred Artsakh to Azerbaijan</li>
<li>95% of wheat imported to Armenia comes from Russia (about 370,000 tons per year)</li>
<li>Armenia is straining relations with Russia, and from there they warn that you have problems with wheat, do not &ldquo;buzz&rdquo; the one who feeds you</li>
<li>The Minister of Economy of Armenia says that it is unprofitable to grow wheat in Armenia</li>
<li>Secretary of the Security Council Armen Grigoryan states that Armenia may switch from wheat to rice in order to prevent others (meaning Moscow) from targeting our strategic goods.</li>
</ul>
<p>Questions:**</p>
<ul>
<li>How can something so important be talked about so nonchalantly?
<ul>
<li>In the background of the constant alienation of Russia, is there any evidence that Armenia is serious about these moves?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armenia’s dependence on Russia has skyrocketed in recent years! What about other segments of the economy? Is there any sign of diversification or is Armenia sleepwalking into very, very cold winters for the years to come?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h2>
<p>Points:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Srbazan movement restarted its activity</li>
<li>Two protests held so far</li>
<li>Demanded that the prosecution try Pashinyan and other Armenian government members for crimes related to ethnic cleansing of Artsakh</li>
<li>I believe that Dziunik is an active participant (and also part of the diplomatic council, that is the “unofficial” foreign policy support team for the Srbazan)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the movement restarting as expected so far?</li>
</ul>
<p>Mikayel Srbazan <a href="https://youtu.be/qn7pX5UcB_w?si=joQOj6GZtnp7mBuY">said</a> that the reason the movement is faltering is because of the “shadow” of Robert Kocharyan and Serzh Sargsyan</p>
<ul>
<li>Various opposition figures attacked Mikayel Srbazan</li>
<li>Bagrat Srbazan defended Mikayel Srbazan from the attacks, but avoided addressing Mikayel Srbazan’s comments about the former presidents</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about Mikayel Srbazan’s statements? Should Bagrat Srbazan have addressed the claims directly rather than simply defending Mikayel Srbazan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="regional-geopolitics">Regional Geopolitics</h2>
<h3 id="iran---russia-relations">Iran - Russia Relations</h3>
<p>Pezeshkian and Putin met in Turkmenistan on Friday. This seems to have been scheduled at the last minute ahead of the BRICS summit in Kazan where it is anticipated that a new strategic partnership agreement is planned to be signed. Putin <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-begins-visit-turkmenistan-says-kremlin-2024-10-11/">said</a>: “our assessments of current events in the world are often very close”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are areas that Russia and Iran disagree on?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="likelihood-of-a-major-israeli-attack-on-iran">Likelihood of a Major Israeli Attack on Iran</h3>
<p>Points:</p>
<ul>
<li>Phone call between Nethanyahu and Biden leads to cancellation of trip by Gallant.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Could Yom Kippur (holiest of Jewish holidays) have delayed Israel’s plans</li>
<li>How likely is a major attack?</li>
<li>What will be Azerbaijan’s role in this scenario?</li>
<li>What dangers does it pose for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="parliamentary-elections-in-georgia">Parliamentary Elections in Georgia</h3>
<p>We’ve heard and talked a lot about the parliamentary elections in Georgia in two weeks. As the ruling party Georgian Dream has passed laws that the West doesn’t like, and has struck a neutral path in foreign affairs throughout the course of a very turbulent geopolitical world atmosphere in the past 3 years, the West has painted these elections in very dire terms as if they will be the end of democratic Georgia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What happens if Georgian Dream (GD) wins? What happens if it loses?</li>
<li>How realistic are some predictions that Russia might try to pry Georgia away from the West by enticing it into a confederation with South Ossetia and Abkhazia?</li>
<li>Can a possible GD victory affect internal politics in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>By making European aspirations look even more ridiculous?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Dziunik</strong>: The loss of joy among the people in Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Stay active demanding the return of our POWs and hostages in Baku.
<ul>
<li>Civil Contract party meeting attended by a large coterie of foreign-funded NGOs and dignitaries.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP373]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/373-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-escalation-in-middle-east-armenian-constitutional-court-punts-brics-summit/</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15891537-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-escalation-in-the-middle-east-constitutional-court-punts-upcoming-brics-summit-ep-373-oct-6-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>373</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Armenia Azerbaijan, Escalation in the Middle East, Constitutional Court Punts, Upcoming BRICS Summit | Ep 373 - Oct 6, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* Escalation in the Middle East
* Constitutional Court Punts
* Upcoming BRICS Summit
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* Constitutional Court Punts
* Upcoming BRICS Summit
Episode 373 | Recorded: Octoberr 7, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-talks">Armenian Azerbaijani Talks</h2>
<p>Every week there are <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33145289.html">new demands from Aliyev</a> in the process of talks between the countries, and this week was no different. Now additionally he wants apologies for Armenian “war crimes”, and maps of mass graves of Azeris killed during the wars between the countries.</p>
<p>At the EAEU meeting in Yerevan this past week, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33142259.html">told</a> the participants, including Russian deputy PM Mikhail Mishustin, that Armenia never agreed to curb its sovereignty. Meanwhile, FSB chief Aleksandr Bortnikov <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33146457.html">said</a> in Moscow that the West is pushing Armenia to leave the CSTO in order to install NATO in that military vacuum, and that they are “persuading Armenia to drag on the negotiations with Azerbaijan.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How true are those accusations by Bortnikov?
<ul>
<li>To us it seems like Pashinyan has been waving a white flag for four years, and conceding territories, freedoms and dignity. How is Pashinyan “dragging out the negotiations?”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Before this latest round of demands, Aliyev was saying that there was agreement on 80% of the document in discussion. What has changed in the past week or two, that we’ve gone from 80% agreement to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33146655.html">threats of war</a>?
<ul>
<li>Do you think the constant stream of requirements from Aliyev are negotiation ploys to distract from not signing the agreement, or to trade for other points within the agreement and so on?</li>
<li>Do they need an official response from the Armenian side?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>It seems like the Blinken-Mirzoyan-Bayramov <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33136598.html">trilateral meeting</a> in New York was a failure. Where does that leave the talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="escalation-in-the-middle-east">Escalation in the Middle East</h2>
<p>The past month has seen a serious escalation of tensions and war in and around Israel. The war in Gaza continues and Israel has assassinated dozens of Hezbollah leaders around Lebanon through booby-trapped pagers and cell phones, invaded southern Lebanon and is now carpet bombing entire residential neighborhoods in Beirut.</p>
<p>Israel also assassinated Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, while he was a guest of Pezeshkian, in a guesthouse that was run by the Iranian military.</p>
<p>After two months, last week, Iran finally responded with hundreds of missiles lobbed towards Israel, and now Israel is contemplating a direct response on Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How will a potential Israeli attack against Iran change the dynamic between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What influence and leverage does Azerbaijan have on the war in Gaza?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="notes-azerbaijan-sharpens-war-rhetoric">Notes: Azerbaijan sharpens war rhetoric</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://aze.media/ilham-aliyev-i-warn-armenia-stop-playing-dangerous-games/">Ilham Aliyev: “I warn Armenia: stop playing dangerous games.”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://aze.media/ilham-aliyev-i-warn-armenia-stop-playing-dangerous-games/">Amirbeyov: “Armenia must urgently address the obvious territorial claim embedded in its current Constitution regarding a part of Azerbaijan’s sovereign territory,”</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="constitutional-court-punts">Constitutional Court Punts</h2>
<p>Azerbaijan has directly demanded that Armenia conduct a referendum abandoning all references and claims to Nagorno Karabakh, the Armenian Genocide, the Diaspora, etc. They want not just this leadership of Armenia to make the changes, because they know this government will eventually go away, but in their <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/politics/55859/">words</a>, the people of Armenia “should demand a referendum to amend the constitution”.</p>
<p>We mentioned last week that Armenia’s constitutional court <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33136446.html">rubber stamped</a> Pashinyan’s border agreement with Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>As part of that <a href="https://concourt.am/decision/decisions/66f6b9067b29c_sdv-1749.pdf">decision</a> they also decided to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33142396.html">address</a> the constitutional reference to the Declaration of Independence. Of course one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.</p>
<pre><code>* Note: The reason it did so was that “there hasn’t yet been a doctrinal decision” on the matter.
* In a treatise dozens of pages long the constitutional court found that the principles in the Declaration of Independence cannot have any legal repercussion, unless those same principles are underscored in the Constitution itself.
</code></pre>
<p>We should note that this is exactly the part that Azerbaijan wants Pashinyan to change, so it’s not a coincidence that Pashinyan has the entire government working to conform to Aliyev’s demands.</p>
<p>We should also note that the constitutional court has been packed with Pashinyan loyalists in the past 3 years of purging all dissenting judges.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the court’s <a href="https://concourt.am/decision/decisions/66f6b9067b29c_sdv-1749.pdf">statement</a> about the constitutional reference to the declaration of independence? Does it mean that the constitution needs to be changed, or that there is no need to change it?
<ul>
<li>What did the court decide as far as the Demarcation and Delimitation principles agreement goes?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan has said that Azerbaijan’s constitution contains explicit demands on the territory of Armenia. Like most of it. Why isn’t he demanding a reciprocal agreement for constitutional amendments?
<ul>
<li>What happens if Armenia changes its constitution per Aliyev’s demand, and removes alleged claims to Azerbaijan’s territories. <del>Obviously this demand aims to legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh and the dispossession of the Armenians with international legal basis.</del> Then Azerbaijan tears the so-called “peace agreement”, and says “You have no claims, but we do.” Where does that leave Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="upcoming-brics-summit">Upcoming BRICS Summit</h2>
<p>The upcoming BRICS summit, set to take place in Kazan, Russia, later this month, is expected to address several critical global issues, including expanding membership, economic cooperation, and reforming international financial institutions. BRICS, an alliance initially started by Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, has been seeking to increase its influence in the global economy by offering alternatives to Western-dominated institutions like the IMF and World Bank. Many countries have expressed interest to join this new organization. Turkey and Azerbaijan have formally expressed their desire to join. Armenia this year will attend as an observer.</p>
<p>Due to the geopolitical repercussions of the war in Ukraine, this summit has drawn particular attention from the media.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the major issues that are expected to be addressed during the upcoming summit?</li>
<li>Turkey and Azerbaijan have expressed intention to join.
<ul>
<li>Have either of them formally submitted an application?</li>
<li>Is their membership up for voting?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How would their membership in BRICS affect the economy in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: The constitutional court&rsquo;s decision on the declaration of independence undermines the foundations of the republic.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: 1789 &ldquo;Rights of man &amp; Citizen&rdquo; declaration served 5 French republics.
<ul>
<li>Keep pressing for our POWs &amp; hostages to be returned, use #COP29.</li>
<li>YouTube censoring users for their views, including a recent guest of ours, Glenn Diesen.</li>
<li>Groong adding Rumble and Substack as channels of communication and dissemination of Armenian News.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/373/thumbnail-373.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/373/thumbnail-373.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15891537-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-escalation-in-the-middle-east-constitutional-court-punts-upcoming-brics-summit-ep-373-oct-6-2024.mp3" length="45025924" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3749</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Vahram Ter Matevosyan - The Dynamics of Identity and Geopolitics in the South Caucasus | Ep 372 - Oct 5, 2024
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>372</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Vahram Ter Matevosyan - The Dynamics of Identity and Geopolitics in the South Caucasus | Ep 372 - Oct 5, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* On the Nature and Thinking of the Armenian Constitution
* Relations with Russia Through Time
* The Geopolitics Around the South Caucasus
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Episode 372 | Recorded: October 2, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-dynamics-of-identity-and-geopolitics-in-the-south-caucasus">The Dynamics of Identity and Geopolitics in the South Caucasus</h1>
<p>In your recent paper, <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08865655.2023.2200782">From Transcaucasia to the South Caucasus: Structural and Discursive Predicaments in Armenia’s Regional Integration</a> (June 2023), you document the perception of Armenia within the wider geopolitical region over time. Over the past 200 years, the constant is that Armenia has largely perceived its destiny to be linked with Russia. Yet, with the outcome of the 2020 war in Artsakh and other larger geopolitical shifts, this perception is currently in the process of being challenged.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key takeaways from your paper in your own words? What is the goal of the historical analysis? How can it or should it inform policy?</li>
<li>How does Armenian identity today relate to the historical <em>longue durée</em> view?</li>
</ul>
<p>You caution that your type of analysis (long duration/term or long time frame) might miss points of inflection in a short period of time. Because, if we look at it in a time frame of 200 years, it is clear that Russia is our natural ally.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the message that we should be mindful of historic trends rather than being near-sighted about current events?</li>
</ul>
<p>After 2020 and the complete ethnic cleansing of Karabakh&rsquo;s Armenian population just a year ago, Armenian identity has become an object of contention with Turks and Azerbaijanis, leading to various demands, including that Armenia change its constitution to remove any reference to the declaration of independence, which in its turn refers to several points of controversy:</p>
<ol>
<li>The 1988 vote on the unification of Karabakh and Armenia.</li>
<li>References to western Armenia and the Armenian Genocide</li>
<li>Role of Armenia in supporting the Armenian diaspora worldwide</li>
</ol>
<p>These three issues are seen by Turkey and Azerbaijan as a threat. And recently, Nikol Pashinyan has lent credence to those points by <a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyan-calls-patriotism-destructive-claims-it-does-not-envision-a-homeland/">arguing</a> that Armenian patriotism is &ldquo;destructive&rdquo;. In his worldview, the definition of Armenia is pretty strict, encompassing 28K sq km. Worrying about anything outside of these boundaries or even apparently supporting Genocide recognition, has nothing much to do with the state of Armenia and in fact is a source of danger.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, on Sep 19, the anniversary of Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing, Ihlam Aliyev was in Stepanakert, where he toured the depopulated town, opened a university and <a href="https://president.az/en/articles/view/66894">called</a> Armenians effectively settlers and visitors, visitors in a region where they’ve lived for thousands of years.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts on Pashinyan&rsquo;s recent statement that Armenian patriotism is destructive?
<ul>
<li>Is this a sincere, perhaps pragmatic, attempt to save Armenia from decline, or is this part of a broader geopolitical strategy influenced by Turkish actors at a time of great Armenian weakness?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is there a legitimate case for changing Armenia’s constitution in light of ongoing external pressures?
<ul>
<li>Discuss the implications of modifying references to the Armenian Genocide, Western Armenia, and the diaspora.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Can Armenian identity be changed in such a top down manner?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-33-format-a-new-regional-order">The 3+3 Format: A New Regional Order?</h2>
<p>In your paper, you describe the South Caucasus historically as a region that is being pulled from multiple directions, with the exception of a brief period in the 1920s. After the 2020 war and then the Russia-West conflict that erupted in Ukraine, a new 3+3 regional format was proposed for dealing with issues of the region.</p>
<ul>
<li>Who are the proponents of the 3+3 and is it possible for the South Caucasus to form a distinct political region by itself?</li>
<li>Since 2004, Georgia has been inching toward the EU, but we’ve been hearing statements from the Georgian Dream government and Russian officials and analysts that hint at a potential rapprochement between Georgia and Russia. How likely is this scenario and could this lead to a confederation involving Georgia, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia?</li>
<li>How much does the Russian conflict with the West influence the self-perception and political maneuvering of the nations in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<p>Two recently published papers we reference in our discussion:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08865655.2023.2200782">From Transcaucasia to the South Caucasus: Structural and Discursive Predicaments in Armenia’s Regional Integration</a> (June 2023)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14683849.2024.2376659">Armenian interpretations of Kemalism: rethinking diaspora and soviet intellectual debates in the 1920s</a> (July 2023)</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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Episode 371 | Recorded: September 30, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="sep-27-start-of-the-44-day-war">Sep 27: Start of the 44-Day War</h2>
<p>Last week marked the 4th anniversary of the beginning of the 44-Day war which culminated a year ago with the complete ethnic cleansing of Artsakh by Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Some key notes to keep in mind:</p>
<ul>
<li>The people whose mistakes led to the war are still in power. The same people whose mistakes led to the death of 5,000 Armenians, and over 10,000 Armenian families destroyed, or injured, or destituted, remain in power and their continuing mistakes led to over 150,000 Armenians to be forced out of their homes and their lands last year. And this past week they said they will make <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33129689.html">more mistakes</a>. Literally, they said that.</li>
<li>An independent war commission was never convened. If there was any investigation it was only in name and there’s been no real accountability for the damage done to the nation, and the government continues to act in secrecy and behind the backs of the Armenian people.</li>
<li>The same losers of the war continue in power today, negotiating national interests with enemies of Armenia, in exchange for being allowed to stay in power.</li>
<li>In fact, the war continues to this day and every step is either a new voluntary concession by Pashinyan to Azerbaijan, or a new military operation resulting in more land losses; like a coordinated one-two punch.</li>
<li>After Sep 27 2020, we had 2  more wars… In June of 2021 when Azerbaijan captured several areas of the Gegharkunik region. Then in Jermuk in September 2022, when in one day we had more than 200 dead.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were your thoughts on this difficult day in our modern history?</li>
<li>Has the war even ended?</li>
<li>Is Armenia rebuilding its military? Has military balance been restored?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-talks">Armenian Azerbaijani Talks</h2>
<p>The Armenian-Azeri talks continue. There’s a lot of pressure by the US on the sides to agree on a deal which they think would greenlight Turkey’s opening its border and relations with Armenia. So on the occasion of the UN General Assembly last week, country leaders were all in New York.</p>
<h3 id="pashinyan-at-the-unga">Pashinyan at the UNGA</h3>
<p>Pashinyan peddled his brand of impotent pacifism <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33132338.html">at the UNGA</a>, while Aliyev addressed his parliament and said Azerbaijan will continue its military buildup, and rejected Pashinyan’s proposed piecemeal peace deal, and said Pashinyan should not delay resolving the outstanding issues.</p>
<p>Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33133116.html">met</a> with Erdogan in New York. Not at the UN building however. Instead, Pashinyan traveled to the Turkish House skyscraper that houses the Turkish consulate. There are <a href="https://abcmedia.am/en/politics/95460/">reports</a> that cite Turkish experts indicating that Pashinyan may have asked Erdogan to intercede in the negotiations with Aliyev. Instead, the latter reiterated Turkish demands for a corridor through Armenia.</p>
<p>The meeting with Erdogan ended with Pashinyan receiving a book authored by Erdogan, “A Fairer World Is Possible”. Pashinyan was photographed grinning and clutching the book close to his chest.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is Erdogan’s vision for a “fairer world” in the Caucasus?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan at a dead end?</li>
</ul>
<p>NOTE:</p>
<ul>
<li>On October 2, 2020 (in the middle of the war), Pashinyan <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/interviews-and-press-conferences/item/2020/10/02/Nikol-Pashinyan-interview-The-Globe-and-Mail/">said</a> that “&hellip; Turkey has returned to the South Caucasus, in order to continue the Armenian genocide here.” What has changed, or has he forgotten what he said 4 years ago?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="fms-trilateral-with-blinken">FMs Trilateral with Blinken</h3>
<p>A <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33136598.html">trilateral meeting</a> of Armenian and Azerbaijani FMs with Secretary Anthony Blinken yielded no immediate discernible result.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there any progress to the Armenian-Azerbaijani talks?</li>
<li>Does the US have any leverage over Azerbaijan to make any agreements happen?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="no-peace-treaty-before-constitutional-changes">No “Peace Treaty” Before Constitutional Changes</h3>
<p>In response to Pashinyan’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33137668.html">speech</a>, Azerbaijan’s foreign minister Jayhun Bayramov repeated Azerbaijan’s rejection of a partial “peace treaty” and re-confirmed that Armenia must change its constitution. (Another point that is currently not agreed upon, is the so-called Zangezur corridor.)</p>
<p>Pashinyan says that the Armenian constitution does not contain claims on Azerbaijani territory, but their constitution makes claims to Armenian territory. However, he says that he doesn’t think that this is a problem because the “peace agreement supersedes domestic law.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan right?</li>
<li>What happens if Armenia changes its constitution per Aliyev’s demand, and removes alleged claims to Azerbaijan’s territories. Obviously this demand aims to legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh and the dispossession of the Armenians with international legal basis. Afterwards Azerbaijan tears the so-called “peace agreement”, and returns to claim Armenian territories per its constitution. Where does that leave Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="border-deal-ratification-by-constitutional-court">Border Deal Ratification by Constitutional Court</h3>
<p>During this past week Armenia’s constitutional court <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33136446.html">rubber stamped</a> Pashinyan’s border agreement with Azerbaijan. Now it heads to be rubber stamped by the parliament.</p>
<p>Let’s be clear: the so-called agreement of principles of delineating the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan is a bullshit agreement.</p>
<ul>
<li>It claims that the process will be based on the 1991 Alma Ata declaration.
<ul>
<li>That declaration contains no maps. Soviet intra-state maps were not international borders, and are in the possession of the Russian defense ministry. Azerbaijan has refused the use of maps, and Armenia has essentially excluded Russia from the negotiations process.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Azerbaijan has said it will use different maps for different border segments, whichever are more advantageous to them; alternately it may also not use any maps.</li>
<li>The agreement also says that the sides may decide to chuck this agreement and do whatever they want.</li>
</ul>
<p>So you can see that the key principle here is that there are no principles. It’s a snow job, to sell to the Armenian public whatever Aliyev wants from Pashinyan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How could the constitutional court sign off on this?</li>
<li>Obviously the parliament will ratify this, because there’s a ruling party super majority which can not be stopped, even though all the parliamentary opposition groups have said that they will vote against it. What can be done here?</li>
<li>How is the government ramming this through the people? (in the media campaigns, etc)</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h3>
<p>Last weekend Bagrat Srbazan held a gathering to relaunch the Tavush For The Homeland movement he started in April.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your impressions? Does it look like this movement is ready, or ramping up to apply popular pressure on the government to not go forward with further mistakes? (aka: unilateral concessions).</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="parliament-approves-2025-state-budget">Parliament Approves 2025 State Budget</h2>
<p>Last week the parliament <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/150470">approved</a> the government’s draft 2025 budget of about $9 Billion.</p>
<p><strong>Summary:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Budget expenditures of $8.93B</li>
<li>Ongoing expenses of $7.05B</li>
<li>Capital expenditures of $1.88B</li>
<li>Budget revenues of $7.37B, of which $7.08B in tax revenues.</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200787">Budget deficit</a> of $1.56B, amounting to 53.5% of GDP</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200784">Economic growth</a> of 5.6%</li>
<li>Inflation rate of 3.5%</li>
</ul>
<p>A 20% growth in the <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/150476">defense budget</a> is earmarked to “increase resilience” of Armenia’s security. So in 2025 the defense budget will be $1.7B, compared to Azerbaijan’s $3.9B.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this budget?</li>
<li>Given that the government has a dismal record in hitting its targets both in expenditures, as well revenues, do these targets look reasonable?
<ul>
<li>Note: as far as tax revenues are concerned, the government thinks it can increase revenues by 25% <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1200790">through</a> “improvements in tax administration, fight against shadow economy, as well as other tax policies.”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Economic growth is slowing down significantly during 2024. Is a 5.6% 2025 economic growth rate a reasonable expectation?</li>
<li>Are the government’s calculations continuing to include the re-export factor into its GDP? If so, is the National debt-to-GDP (53.5%) at risk, if these reexports evaporate?</li>
</ul>
<p>We recently discussed with economist and former minister of finance Vardan Aramyan, who expressed concern that consumer debt, especially due to home mortgages, is rising at an alarming rate, given that their income is not keeping pace with their debt.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is fueling all the borrowing, is it a government promoted modus vivendi?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-panelists">Thoughts from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hrant</strong>: The Church and its government dilemma</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: On the speech of the Catholicos; also: Stay active against Azerbaijan&rsquo;s greenwashing of ethnic cleansing via #COP29</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/371/thumbnail-371.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/371/thumbnail-371.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15854519-hrant-mikaelian-44-day-war-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-2025-state-budget-ep-371-sep-29-2024.mp3" length="40807130" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3397</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Nikoloz Bitsadze - Georgian Elections in October 2024| Ep 370 - Sep 26, 2024
[EP370]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/370-nikoloz-bitsadze-upcoming-georgian-elections-in-october-2024/</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15823829-nikoloz-bitsadze-georgian-elections-in-october-2024-ep-370-sep-26-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
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* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Is Talk of Civilizational Catastrophe, or Rapprochement with Abkhazia/South Ossetia Election-time Populism?
* Neutrality and Georgian-Armenian Relations
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* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Is Talk of Civilizational Catastrophe, or Rapprochement with Abkhazia/South Ossetia Election-time Populism?
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* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Is Talk of Civilizational Catastrophe, or Rapprochement with Abkhazia/South Ossetia Election-time Populism?
* Neutrality and Georgian-Armenian Relations
Episode 370 | Recorded: September 21, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="georgian-elections-in-2024-amidst-global-currents">Georgian Elections in 2024 Amidst Global Currents</h1>
<h2 id="election-and-politics">Election and Politics</h2>
<p>Georgia&rsquo;s parliamentary elections are set for October 26, and political tensions are rising. The ruling Georgian Dream party has clashed with the West, with the EU pausing Georgia&rsquo;s candidacy for membership, and both the US and EU imposing sanctions on its party leaders. This rift began with the &ldquo;Transparency of Foreign Influence&rdquo; law and other conservative legislative initiatives. Georgia&rsquo;s refusal to support certain anti-Russian measures during the Ukraine war has also strained relations. Georgian Dream appears to have doubled down on its stance, naming Bidzina Ivanishvili, Irakli Kobakhidze, and Irakli Gharibashvili as lead candidates.</p>
<h3 id="unm-to-be-banned">UNM To Be Banned?</h3>
<p>Finally, a month ago Georgian Dream <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1070769791080485&amp;set=a.488868739270596">published a post</a> stating that if they achieve “constitutional majority”, then they will initiate a “legal process” as a result of which Saakashvili’s UNM party and its satellites would be declared unconstitutional, or illegal.</p>
<p>Despite the strong language, recent polls indicate that GD is unlikely to get a constitutional majority.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why does Georgian Dream want to outlaw the UNM, and what legal mechanism would allow this?</li>
<li>How do voters react to GD’s radical statements, and is it likely they’ll achieve a constitutional majority?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="polls">Polls</h3>
<p>A month ago the <a href="https://info.imedi.ge/en/elections/2638/gorbi-poll-shows-if-parliamentary-elections-were-held-this-week-georgian-dream-party-would-receive-593-of-votes">GORBI polls</a> showed support for GD at 59.3, while the leading opposition Unity Alliance (that includes UNM) would get 13.1%.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, a more recent poll from <a href="https://formulanews.ge/News/117210">Edison Research</a>, puts GD at 32.3% while the Unity Alliance would get 20%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your sense of the current popular mood in Georgia?</li>
<li>Is Tbilisi the most important hub for the elections? What about Azeri populated Marneuli, and Armenian populated Javakheti?</li>
<li>How do these polls lean? Is any one of them trustworthy alone, and in an absolute sense?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-geopolitical-context">The Geopolitical Context</h2>
<p>The Georgian elections are being framed as an existential battle, either a chance to pivot to the west or reject the west. If voters endorse Georgian Dream’s approach and conservative policies they could effectively put the country’s EU aspirations on hold indefinitely.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How important are these elections in Georgia, and why?</li>
</ul>
<p>Western politicians are not mincing any words. Earlier this month MPs from Germany traveled to Georgia to support the opposition and gave GD a <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-germany-eu-foreign-agents/33109987.html">stern warning</a> that the “Foreign Agent Law” must be abolished or EU membership will remain blocked.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why has the &ldquo;Foreign Agent Law&rdquo; become such a major issue for the West, and what’s at stake for Georgia, and also for the West?</li>
<li>How true are Western claims that Georgia is aligning with Russian interests, and are Turkey and China players in Georgian politics?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="apologies-to-abkhazia-and-south-ossetia">Apologies to Abkhazia and South Ossetia</h3>
<p>One of the more fascinating stories from last week came from <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/624405">Ivanishvili</a>, who put out the<a href="https://euronewsgeorgia.com/2024/09/17/urtiertpatiebisa-da-sherigebis-temaze-bidzina-ivanishvilis-ganckhadebas-premier-ministri-gamoekhmaura/"> idea of apologizing</a> to the people of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. They put the blame on Mikheil Saakashvili’s government in 2008.</p>
<p>On the other side of the 2008 conflict, Russia has apparently<a href="https://agenda.ge/en/news/2024/40419#gsc.tab=0"> suspended</a> social aid to Abkhazia, this is also interesting.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it out of the realm of possibilities to think that Georgia and Russia may reconcile their differences around Abkhazia and S. Ossetia?</li>
<li>How likely is this, or is this election-time populism, or demagoguery?</li>
<li>Armenia is highly interested in the reopening of the Abkhaz railway. Do you see this railway returning to service, should Russia and Georgia find a solution to the territorial issues?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="potential-for-post-election-turmoil">Potential for Post-Election Turmoil</h3>
<p>Many are predicting a high chance that the next government of Georgia may not be decided at the polling stations because regardless of the results, there is so much polarization that one side or the other might take to the streets.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Will the opposition accept the results, if the CEC announces a GD victory?</li>
<li>Could there be post-election violence and potential for non-electoral regime change?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgian-armenian-relations">Georgian-Armenian Relations</h2>
<p>Modern relations between Georgia and Armenia are by and large cordial but generally not particularly warm.</p>
<p>We know that for Georgia, Turkey is an important ally and neighbor. One of the foreign-policy red lines for Turkey, however, is denial of the genocide it perpetrated against Armenians in 1915. When we were talking with another Georgian colleague, they mentioned that Georgia has to be careful in its foreign policy related to issues such as the 1915 Genocide due to relations with Turkey. For Armenians, the issue of the Armenian Genocide is a “load bearing” truth, a core part of our identity and is accepted by a vast majority of scholars as historical truth.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why aren’t relations between the two countries cordial but not warm?</li>
<li>What is needed for Armenians and Georgians, neighbors after all who don’t have a major history of animosity, to achieve solidarity and unity on issues of historic truth?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/370/thumbnail-370.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/370/thumbnail-370.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15823829-nikoloz-bitsadze-georgian-elections-in-october-2024-ep-370-sep-26-2024.mp3" length="3526" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42355371</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Yeghia Tashjian - Lebanon Under Attack | Ep 369 - Sep 24, 2024
[EP369]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/369-yeghia-tashjian-lebanon-under-attack/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2024 19:19:47 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15810894-yeghia-tashjian-lebanon-under-attack-ep-369-sep-24-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>369</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian - Lebanon Under Attack | Ep 369 - Sep 24, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/23/2024
        
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Israel's end goal
* Likelihood of land invasion
* Will Iran and US intervene
* Popular support for Hezbollah
* Armenian community
Episode 369 | Recorded: September 24, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Israel's end goal
* Likelihood of land invasion
* Will Iran and US intervene
* Popular support for Hezbollah
* Armenian community
Episode 369 | Recorded: September 24, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Israel's end goal
* Likelihood of land invasion
* Will Iran and US intervene
* Popular support for Hezbollah
* Armenian community
Episode 369 | Recorded: September 24, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="lebanon-under-attack">Lebanon Under Attack</h1>
<p>The <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wy8kpy3eo">BBC reports</a> that nearly 500 people have been killed by Israeli air strikes on South Lebanon. Israel claims to be hitting Hezbollah fighters and strongholds, but of course it’s the common citizens who are taking the hits and casualties. This attack comes on the heels of the latest warfare tactic from Israel: exploding pagers and cellular devices, which indicates that supply chains have been hacked into, compromised, to booby trap personal digital devices.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the end goal for Israel?</li>
<li>How serious of an attack is this against Hezbollah’s command and control capabilities?</li>
<li>Today Israel again hit targets in Beirut. What can Lebanon do? Is there even a functional government to decide on a national response strategy, whether that is through the UN, or on the ground, or through regional partnerships, or whatever?</li>
<li>The US is <a href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-lebanon-violence-war-hezbollah-63a15fa390a94acf46ef886cc5fb88db">sending</a> more ships to the region. How likely is US involvement directly in Lebanon if Israel does a land invasion?</li>
<li>Where is France during this conflict?</li>
</ul>
<p>Prior to Oct 7, some groups in Lebanon did not support Hezbollah, while some communities, such as the Sunnis and Maronite Christians disagreed with the Hezbollah agenda.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Hezbollah&rsquo;s support level higher after Oct. 7?</li>
<li>What is the sentiment like in general in Lebanon?</li>
</ul>
<p>Finally let’s touch on the Armenian community in Lebanon.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the Armenian community reacting?</li>
<li>Could the current situation lead to a mass emigration from the community?
<ul>
<li>Where would they go? (Armenia? Europe? US? Other?)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you Yeghia!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a> today, this episode was recorded on September 24, 2024.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/369/thumbnail-369.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/369/thumbnail-369.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15810894-yeghia-tashjian-lebanon-under-attack-ep-369-sep-24-2024.mp3" length="19398375" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1614</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Armenian Independence Day, Strategic Partnerships, Talks with Azerbaijan | Ep 368 - Sep 22, 2024
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Hovik Manucharyan
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* “Strategic Partnerships”
* Armenian Azerbaijani Talks
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#### Topics:
* Armenian Day of Independence: Sep. 21
* “Strategic Partnerships”
* Armenian Azerbaijani Talks
Episode 368 | Recorded: September 23, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="day-of-independence-of-the-third-republic-sep-21">Day of Independence of the Third Republic, Sep. 21</h2>
<p>Last week, Saturday, September 21, was Armenia’s Independence Day. The country turned 33 years old.</p>
<p>Before the 2020 war, it used to be a reminder of the resilience and enduring spirit of the Armenian people, who, throughout centuries of hardship, have preserved their culture, language, and identity. Independence is not just a date on the calendar—it is the foundation of our nationhood, and it gives us a chance to reflect on the past, celebrate our achievements, and strengthen our hope for the future.</p>
<p>After 2020, and especially after the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, we also must acknowledge the solemn reality that accompanies this moment. Just two days before our Independence Day, on September 19th, we marked the first anniversary of the tragic ethnic cleansing in Nagorno-Karabakh, or Artsakh.</p>
<p>In summary, last week was full of contradictory feelings for all of us.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts on the meaning of this date? Why is it important?</li>
</ul>
<p>Other things that happened last week:</p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan was at the so-called “Global Armenian Summit” featuring hand-picked participants from the diaspora who would accept an invitation to participate. During his speech, he <a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyan-calls-patriotism-destructive-claims-it-does-not-envision-a-homeland/">underscored</a> that Armenia’s national patriotism had “destructive” aspects in it. He further blamed external “empires” for instituting this destructive patriotism.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, on the anniversary of Artsakh’s ethnic cleansing, Ihlam Aliyev was in Stepanakert, where he toured the depopulated town, opened a university and <a href="https://president.az/en/articles/view/66894">called</a> Armenians settlers and visitors in the ancient land where they’ve lived for thousands of years.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about the messaging that Pashinyan and Aliyev to their respective people?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="strategic-partnerships">“Strategic Partnerships”</h2>
<h3 id="us---armenia">US - Armenia</h3>
<p>Over the course of 2024 the term “strategic partnership” has been perhaps overused. Armenia has a strategic partnership with Georgia, which nobody has any idea of what it means. And two days ago Biden’s congratulatory letter on the independence day of Armenia’s third republic also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33129728.html">alluded to a strategic partnership</a> between Armenia and the US.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What kind of “strategic partnership” can the US and Armenia have, what is the vision here?</li>
<li>How will this vision or partnership affect Armenia’s membership in the CSTO, but also at this point the EAEU? Putin has essentially said that the two organizations are tied at the hip, you pretty much can’t be in one and not be in the other.</li>
<li>What about the aspects of the US relationship with Azerbaijan? Are they more “strategic” than Armenia&rsquo;s?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="georgia---armenia">Georgia - Armenia</h3>
<p>A week ago Pashinyan was in Tbilisi <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1199988">discussing the strategic partnership</a> that the two countries signed earlier in this year. Back then the agreement explicitly excluded defense partnership, but defense minister Papikyan and his staff have also visited Georgia since then.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Very little is known about this agreement, what kind of “strategic partnership” is desired, and why is defense explicitly excluded?</li>
<li>Who would be the main beneficiaries of this partnership?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia’s elections next month have been painted by the West in very dire terms. They say that a vote for the ruling party Georgian Dream is a pivot towards Russia, and they want to see the opposition Unity Alliance, an umbrella including Saakashvili’s UNM, to win the elections.</p>
<p><strong>Questions;</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s at stake in these elections for Georgia, is it really a pivot to the east or west for them?</li>
<li>Is the US initiative to strengthen its position in Armenia a reaction to the difficulties the West is having with Georgia?</li>
</ul>
<p>There’s been talk of Georgian Dream apologizing to the Abkhazians and the South Ossetians for the wrongs done to them by Georgia in Saakashvili’s days in 2008. But when we’ve asked our Georgian colleagues if such a Russia-Georgia rapprochement is in the cards, and if it could lead to the Abkhaz Railway reopening, we’ve heard that they think the talk of rapprochement is probably election hype and populism, or at the least premature.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your take on this Russia-Georgian rapprochement hints by Georgian Dream?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-talks">Armenian Azerbaijani Talks</h2>
<p>In the past week two senior State Department officials, Joshua Huck and Louis Bono <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33128249.html">visited</a> Yerevan and Baku with the aim to get closer to signing an agreement with Armenia. Azerbaijan reiterated that Armenia’s constitution must be changed, while Armenia repeated its proposal to sign a partial agreement. There’s talk of the two foreign ministers continuing work in the US this coming week during the UNGA meeting in New York.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the urgency on the part of the US, to get this agreement signed?</li>
<li>What are the issues still on the table?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Keep Armenian POWs at the top of the agenda, be active around #COP29</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: The Srbazan movement re-launching, popular pressure is the only thing keeping Pashiyan from full-speed concessions</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP367]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/367-pascal-lottaz-neutrality-studies-armenia-multipolar-world/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15798689-pascal-lottaz-neutrality-studies-armenia-and-the-incoming-multipolar-world-ep-367-sep-23-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>367</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pascal Lottaz - Neutrality Studies, Armenia and the Incoming Multipolar World | Ep 367 - Sep 23, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/23/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pascal Lottaz](/guest/plottaz)
#### Topics:
* What is Neutrality Studies?
* Rise of the Multi-Polar World
Episode 367 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pascal Lottaz](/guest/plottaz)
#### Topics:
* What is Neutrality Studies?
* Rise of the Multi-Polar World
Episode 367 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pascal Lottaz](/guest/plottaz)
#### Topics:
* What is Neutrality Studies?
* Rise of the Multi-Polar World
Episode 367 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="neutrality-in-a-multipolar-world">Neutrality in a Multipolar World</h1>
<h2 id="neutrality-studies">Neutrality Studies</h2>
<p>Since this is your first time with us, would you tell us about yourself, and the interests that have led you to the formal study of the concept of “Neutrality”?</p>
<p>Your university in Japan, University of Kyoto, seems to be one of the few places around the world that has a formal neutrality studies program.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is neutrality and what is the theoretical basis for Neutrality Studies?
<ul>
<li>When was the term introduced or coined?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Let’s relate to an old saying attributed to Edmond Burke, that “the only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is for good men to do nothing”.</p>
<ul>
<li>Simple Googling shows that the quote is misattributed to Burke, but the point remains the same.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are you “neutral” if you sit by and watch your neighbors commit genocide?</li>
<li>How is neutrality different from “independence”?</li>
<li>What are your thoughts on the Non Aligned movement?
<ul>
<li>For many years, as part of the nonaligned movement, Azerbaijan was able to gather diplomatic <a href="https://www.mfa.gov.az/en/category/international-organisations/non-aligned-movement-nam#:~:text=On%20November%2018%2C%202021%2C%20within,President%20of%20the%20Republic%20of">favor</a> from other members of that organization. Can one argue that simply by voting with Azerbaijan, in what ended up today the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, non-aligned states were party to Azerbaijan’s policies?
<ul>
<li>The 2012 ministerial meeting mentioned territorial integrity and non-use of force.</li>
<li>Since that meeting, subsequent resolutions or meetings seem to have focused simply on observing Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity at the detriment of all other well-known principles such as self-determination and non-use of force.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>This is perhaps the equivalent of the “Not my war” stance. But is it really “neutral”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Specifically when it comes to international principles considered to be equal, yet within the context of specific conflicts, they are diametrically opposed. For example: territorial integrity vs. right to self-determination.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where does “neutrality” stand between right and wrong?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="rise-of-multipolar-world">Rise of Multipolar World</h2>
<p>There’s a lot of talk about the rise of the multipolar world, but I haven’t seen a clear definition of what it means.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does a multipolar world mean? What will be the key attributes of a multipolar world? Will there be more neutrality?
<ul>
<li>… more or less peace?</li>
<li>… more liberal or traditional values?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="small-states-a-multipolar-world">Small States A Multipolar World</h3>
<p>Since we’re Armenian, let’s talk a little about Armenia. In a previous discussion, with our guest Glenn Diesen, we asked whether the Nagorno-Karabakh war was a trap set up for Russia, given what was coming in Ukraine. He said that if Russia took sides in the fighting, it would indeed be a trap.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you agree or disagree?</li>
<li>What drove Russia’s policies at the time and what is driving them now?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since then, Pashinyan has taken up the dramatic step of moving Armenia away from Russia’s orbit. Frequently playing on the emotions of the populace, who truly can’t forgive Russia’s inaction in Karabakh and since then.</p>
<p>NOTE: Some would point out that Pashinyan always had anti-Armenian sentiment.</p>
<p>This policy has been cheered by a coterie of western-funded academics. Just today, an item appeared in the National Interest, <a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/armenia-and-us-election-212775">penned</a> by Anna Ohanian and Nerses Kopalyan, with the sub-headline that says it all: <strong><em>“Armenia can offer the United States a foothold in Russia’s backyard.”</em></strong></p>
<p>Just that statement itself seems to offer Armenia to be used as a tool in the fight between Russia and the West. Many of our analysts have said as much when addressing the topic.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the upside of Armenia becoming a US “foothold” against Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="institutions-of-the-multipolar-world">Institutions of the Multipolar World</h3>
<p>The logic of multipolarity seems to dictate less global institutionalism and more local and regional approaches, or bilateral approaches. At least in the case of the UN and other similar organizations, we’re seeing that their role is diminishing to the point of irrelevance.</p>
<p>But at the same time, we’re seeing reorganizations and growth of other organizations, such as BRICS, SCC and the Eurasian Economic Union.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what is the role of BRICS and SCC? Are they geopolitical organizations or geoeconomic in nature?</li>
<li>Any predictions about the upcoming BRICS summit that will take place in Kazan in October?</li>
<li>There’s a lot of talk about a common BRICS currency that might be established. Can you tell us your thoughts about this?
<ul>
<li>Or is it about purely de-dollarization and trading in local currencies?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What institutions are still missing to support the multipolar world?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="supply-chain-security-in-the-multipolar-world">Supply Chain Security in the Multipolar World</h3>
<p>With yesterday’s “pager attack” by Israel, a new rubicon was crossed in our opinion, in terms of what will be permissible for some countries and threats that smaller and less technically sovereign countries will need to consider.</p>
<p>Just briefly, it appears that Israel was able to either at manufacture time or during shipment time, implant explosives into thousands of pagers, allegedly destined for use by Hezbollah in Lebanon. Not just pagers, but it appears that some cell phones, communications radios, and even solar panels were reported to be rigged in a similar manner. There were many deaths and thousands of injuries, including innocent bystanders and even children.</p>
<p>Regardless of one’s stance on the conflict in the Middle East, this attack raises many questions about the security of basic technology and any other goods that countries are not self-reliant on.</p>
<p>We know there are only a handful of countries that can manufacture essential technologies from cell phones to networking equipment.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do regular (medium and small) countries get assured that their networking equipment doesn’t have a backdoor for the NSA or that their cell phones don’t have explosives in them?</li>
<li>Is there a risk to communications networks being segmented as well?
<ul>
<li>We have an example of the Chinese Firewall and an “internet” within China that is local only to that country.</li>
<li>Will Russia eventually set up its own internet?</li>
<li>Is there anyone thinking how these “regional” internets will be interconnected, especially for collaboration?
<ul>
<li>For example, will Russia allow residents in its orbit a more “privileged” access, whether it is for commerce or other types of collaboration?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/367/thumbnail-367.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/367/thumbnail-367.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15798689-pascal-lottaz-neutrality-studies-armenia-and-the-incoming-multipolar-world-ep-367-sep-23-2024.mp3" length="39181519" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3262</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan - Politics and Economy in Armenia, Fall 2024 | Ep 366 - Sep 21, 2024
[EP366]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/366-arthur-khachatryan-politics-and-economy-inarmenia-fall-2024/</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15790585-arthur-khachatryan-politics-and-economy-in-armenia-fall-2024-ep-366-sep-21-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>366</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan - Politics and Economy in Armenia, Fall 2024 | Ep 366 - Sep 21, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/21/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Mr. Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan)
#### Topics:
* The Government’s Track Record
* The State of the Economy
* “Pivot to the West”
* Elections in Georgia
Episode 366 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* The Government’s Track Record
* The State of the Economy
* “Pivot to the West”
* Elections in Georgia
Episode 366 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* The Government’s Track Record
* The State of the Economy
* “Pivot to the West”
* Elections in Georgia
Episode 366 | Recorded: September 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="politics-and-economy-in-armenia-fall-2024">Politics and Economy in Armenia, Fall 2024</h1>
<h2 id="armenian-governments-track-record">Armenian Government’s Track Record</h2>
<p>Let&rsquo;s start by taking a broad look at Pashinyan and the Civil Contract&rsquo;s time in power.</p>
<ul>
<li>The loss in the 44-day war;</li>
<li>an economy that seems to be growing but is mostly due to re-exports;</li>
<li>how they&rsquo;ve handled traditional alliances, their views on the church and education;</li>
<li>the strained relationship between Armenia and the Diaspora;</li>
<li>and of course the so-called “peace negotiations” with Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<p>There seem to be a lot of unanswered questions.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does the ARF view this government’s record in negotiations with Azerbaijan?
<ul>
<li>Where there is a constant lack of transparency and dishonesty with the people of Armenia, and a lack of any red lines when it comes to national security and territorial integrity.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How will the opposition turn the table on the government’s failure to perform?
<ul>
<li>What recommendations do you have to improve these areas over what this government is doing?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-economy">Armenian Economy</h2>
<p>Despite the government’s reported growth of 10.4% and a rate of inflation of 2.8% in the first half of 2024, most people say that they’re not feeling this “good economy” in their lives or in their pockets.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you attribute the disconnect between the reported good economy and the common citizen’s experience?</li>
<li>The economy is showing signs of cooling down. Even the minister of finance predicted that for the full year 2024 the government expects a 6% growth. Why is the economy slowing down?</li>
<li>The refinance rate is at 7.5%, while the Dram has appreciated significantly during 2024. How is this affecting individuals, businesses, as well as the real estate market?</li>
<li>Much has been said about the government’s numbers being based on an artificially inflated GDP figure, due to the inclusion of the “re-export” aspect of the economy. Does the government plan to recognize this issue?
<ul>
<li>Note: affects GDP-to-debt ratio, revenues, taxation, spending, risk assessment (of the economy), ratings, etc…</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Overall remittances into Armenia have decreased by 48%. What do you attribute this to?
<ul>
<li>Notes: MIR payment system blockage; Russia making migrant workers process tougher.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How is the labor market in Armenia? Are there shortages in some industries?</li>
<li>Why has the IT industry slowed down 13% in 2024?
<ul>
<li>Should the IT sector be subsidized anyway?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The government has come under<a href="https://168.am/2024/08/26/2089404.html"> criticism</a> for poor planning of its capital and operational expenditures and also revenues. There are large discrepancies, and the finance minister has tried to<a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198344"> explain</a> them away.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the reason why the government is not hitting its marks in projected revenues and expenditures?</li>
<li>The minister pointed to a “reserve fund”, which this year contained 55 billion Drams. Is this a government emergency fund, what do they use it for?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-pivot-to-the-west">Armenia’s Pivot To the West</h2>
<p>In an environment where the people of the country are not feeling the “economic growth” that the government claims and the prosperity that goes with that, the US in response to Pashinyan’s pivot to the west is telling the people of Armenia “let them eat democracy”. Well, literally the former US ambassador to the OSCE, Dan Baer said that “<a href="https://x.com/JAMnewsCaucasus/status/1834625406630347032">Armenians must be prepared to endure some cold winters</a>.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is Armenia’s pivot to the West going?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="more-usaid-for-armenia">“More” USAID for Armenia</h3>
<p>When Georgia made its pivot to the west in the 2000s, the US, EU and their partners made heavy investments to boost Georgia. The <a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GEO/georgia/foreign-direct-investment#:~:text=Georgia%20foreign%20direct%20investment%20for,a%2059.81%25%20decline%20from%202019.">investments</a> to Georgia could be counted in the billions of US dollars. Yet, despite the Pashinyan regime’s audacious moves to alienate Russia, something that the west has lauded, the actual monetary support seems to be just pocket change.</p>
<p>A week ago USAID announced a <a href="https://oc-media.org/usaid-doubles-aid-package-to-armenia-to-250-million/">doubling of aid to Armenia</a> with another $130 million allocation. The objectives are: improving governance, civil participation in democracy, and improving the sustainable management of natural resources. It also includes support for ‘increasing the competitiveness of certain sectors to reduce reliance on Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Between the politics and the economics of this US Aid, will it make a difference in the lives of the common people?</li>
<li>Where does it end up going?</li>
<li>Are these amounts, $130M, $250M, appropriate amounts to effect the desired shifts in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="peace-process--corridors">Peace Process &amp; Corridors</h3>
<p>Armenia’s so-called “Pivot to the West” is also a major factor in negotiations with Azerbaijan &amp; Turkey. So far, Armenia has replaced Russian border guards that were helping Armenia guard its borders with Azerbaijan post-2020 with EU observers armed with binoculars. Armenia is relying less and less on Russian military technology.</p>
<p>Even point 9 of the November 10 statement which clearly states that Russian border guards shall “control” the transportation link between Azerbaijan and Nakhijevan that is supposed to go through Armenia is being interpreted differently it seems. Pashinyan is actively talking about the use of private companies to provide security on these transport links and is publicly saying that despite what is written in the Nov 10 statement, who says that Russians have to be physically on the ground in order to “control” communication.</p>
<p>Pashinyan supporters say that Russia betrayed Armenia and therefore all these moves are justified. Two “intellectual” Armenian backers of Pashinyan (Anna Ohanian and Nerses Kopalyan) recently</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What would you say to these arguments? Is there a rational mechanism for Armenia to completely shun Russia, while staying afloat?</li>
<li>Are Armenia’s much announced military procurements from France and India sufficient to replace Armenia’s reliance on Russian-produced arms?</li>
<li>If Armenia’s relations with Russia further sour, what could happen to Armenia’s energy security, including supply of gas from Russia or even nuclear fuel? Could Dan Baer’s prophecy happen sooner than we think?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="elections-in-georgia">Elections in Georgia</h2>
<p>On October 26 Georgia will hold parliamentary elections. The ruling party Georgian Dream’s efforts to rid the country’s domestic politics from foreign influence over the past year have led to an acute crisis between Georgia and the EU. The West is <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/salome-zurabishvili-parliamentary-election-october/33094630.html">painting</a> these elections as a pivot to the west or to the east.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s at stake in Georgia and maybe more to the point for us, what’s at stake for Armenia, in these 2024 Georgian parliamentary elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past week some momentous statements have been made in the Georgian political scene. The Georgian Dream <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/624405">leadership</a> has been floating the <a href="https://euronewsgeorgia.com/2024/09/17/urtiertpatiebisa-da-sherigebis-temaze-bidzina-ivanishvilis-ganckhadebas-premier-ministri-gamoekhmaura/">idea of apologizing</a> to the people of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. They put the blame on Mikheil Saakashvili’s government in 2008. Of course Saakashvili’s UNM party is also the main opposition party in the upcoming elections.</p>
<p>Russia has apparently <a href="https://agenda.ge/en/news/2024/40419#gsc.tab=0">suspended</a> social aid to Abkhazia, this is also interesting.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it possible that Georgia and Russia may reconcile their differences around Abkhazia and S. Ossetia?</li>
<li>Given that the railway through Abkhazia has been blocked for decades, does this reconciliation provide Armenia with opportunities? Risks?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/366/thumbnail-366.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/366/thumbnail-366.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15790585-arthur-khachatryan-politics-and-economy-in-armenia-fall-2024-ep-366-sep-21-2024.mp3" length="2729" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32789945</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - September 12-13 Anniv, Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, More USAID, Georgian Parliamentary Elections | Ep 365 - Sep 15, 2024
[EP365]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/365-sergei-melkonian-sept-12-13-anniversary-between-blinken-and-a-hard-place-more-usaid-for-armenia-georgia-parliamentary-elections/</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15779987-sergei-melkonian-sep-12-13-anniv-am-az-talks-more-usaid-georgia-ep-365-sep-15-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>365</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - September 12-13 Anniv, Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, More USAID, Georgian Parliamentary Elections | Ep 365 - Sep 15, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Sep. 15, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* September 12-13 Anniversary
* Between Blinken and a Hard Place
* More USAID for Armenia
* Georgian Parliamentary Elections
Episode 365 | Recorded: Sep. 17, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* September 12-13 Anniversary
* Between Blinken and a Hard Place
* More USAID for Armenia
* Georgian Parliamentary Elections
Episode 365 | Recorded: Sep. 17, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* September 12-13 Anniversary
* Between Blinken and a Hard Place
* More USAID for Armenia
* Georgian Parliamentary Elections
Episode 365 | Recorded: Sep. 17, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="sep-12-13-anniversary">Sep 12-13 Anniversary</h2>
<p>More than 2 years since the Azerbaijani war on Armenia, ending up with occupation of more than 200 sq km (approx. size of Yerevan) in Vayots Dzor and Syunik.</p>
<p>In the aftermath, we have:</p>
<ul>
<li>More than 200 soldiers were killed, some were brutally murdered in what can be described as full fledged war crimes.</li>
<li>In Jermuk, one of Armenia’s most touristic cities, Azeri soldiers are less than 5km from the town.</li>
<li>We’re not aware that Armenia is pursuing any international legal action related to these war crimes.</li>
<li>A full list of names was never released and the anniversary of such a tragedy was not observed at a state level.</li>
<li>And despite demarcation and delimitation ostensibly being presented as a fair mechanism for resolving border issues, Aliyev has said he will never leave those territories and there’s no indication that Armenia under Pashinyan will ever demand these territories.</li>
</ul>
<p>The following day, Pashinyan in parliament said that “we want to sign a paper for which we will be called traitors”. Next month, on Oct. 5, 2022, Pashinyan went to Prague to sign away Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why isn&rsquo;t the Pashinyan regime releasing a complete list of those who gave their lives for the nation?</li>
<li>Did the Prague statement signed by Pashinyan legitimize Aliyev’s blockade and cleansing of Artsakh less than a year later, in September 2023?</li>
<li>Why wasn&rsquo;t reclaiming these occupied areas made a priority, or at least a key point, during the discussions on border demarcation and delimitation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="between-blinken-and-a-hard-place">Between Blinken and a hard place</h2>
<p>There has been some very heated diplomacy since Putin’s visit to Baku 3 weeks ago. After Iran’s harsh criticism aimed at Moscow, secretary of the security council Sergei Shoigu “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33116439.html">clarified</a>” Russia’s position to his Iranian counterpart Ali Akbar Ahmadian in St. Petersbourg, that there’s no change in policy, no changes are planned to borders or sovereignty, but he said they want Armenia to comply with point 9 of the Nov 9, 2020 ceasefire agreement. In fact, after Ahmadian’s visit to St. Petersburg last week, today Shoigu was in Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do we know what is under discussion specifically between Shoigu said to Ahmadian and if Iranian concerns could be alleviated?</li>
<li>Why is Russia so motivated to have control over this corridor through Armenia? What’s in it for Russia?</li>
<li>Why isn’t Russia concerned about points 4 through 8 of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_ceasefire_agreement">trilateral ceasefire agreement</a>?
<ul>
<li>They dropped the ball on keeping Artsakhtsis safe in their homeland. Can’t Armenia say: let’s talk about point 9 as soon as we see 150,000 Artsakhtsis back in their homes with security guarantees; as soon as we see our POWs released from Baku; as soon as Azerbaijan retreats from Armenian territories (that we mentioned at the start of this show); and so on?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Soon after Russia’s clarifications to Iran last week, US state secretary Blinken made an unannounced <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33119285.html">phone call</a> to Pashinyan late on Thursday to discuss the so-called “peace process” (as well as US-Armenia relations). Then on Friday Russian deputy PM Alexei Overchuk <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33119169.html">arrived</a> in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the urgent need for a discussion between Blinken and Pashinyan right before Overchuk’s visit?
<ul>
<li>The discussion also came on the heels of Baku’s rejection of Armenia’s repeated proposal to sign Pashinyan’s proposed agreement; basically an interim agreement, leaving out points not yet agreed upon.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="more-usaid-for-armenia">More USAID for Armenia</h2>
<p>A week ago USAID announced a <a href="https://oc-media.org/usaid-doubles-aid-package-to-armenia-to-250-million/">doubling of aid to Armenia</a> with another $130 million allocation. The objectives are: improving governance, civil participation in democracy, and improving the sustainable management of natural resources. It also includes support for ‘increasing the competitiveness of certain sectors to reduce reliance on Russia.</p>
<p>In an environment where the people of the country are not feeling the “economic growth” that the government claims and the prosperity that goes with that, the US is telling the people of Armenia “let them eat democracy”; and even more succinctly and literally: that “<a href="https://x.com/JAMnewsCaucasus/status/1834625406630347032">Armenians must be prepared to endure some cold winters</a>.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Nobody thinks that Armenia has market alternatives to what it exports to Russia and the rest of the EAEU. So how is this USAID going to help Armenia’s geo-economic and geopolitical situation?</li>
<li>Given what the US ambassador to the OSCE said, what are the US expectations of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgian-elections">Georgian Elections</h2>
<p>On October 26 Georgia will hold parliamentary elections. The ruling party Georgian Dream’s efforts to rid the country’s domestic politics from foreign influence over the past year have led to an acute crisis between Georgia and the EU. The West is <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/salome-zurabishvili-parliamentary-election-october/33094630.html">painting</a> these elections as a pivot to the west or to the east.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s at stake in Georgia and maybe more to the point for us, what’s at stake for Armenia, in these 2024 Georgian parliamentary elections?</li>
<li>Is it crazy to think that Georgia and Russia may reconcile their differences around Abkhazia and S. Ossetia? How likely is this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions under our Youtube videos, and you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/365/thumbnail-365.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/365/thumbnail-365.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15779987-sergei-melkonian-sep-12-13-anniv-am-az-talks-more-usaid-georgia-ep-365-sep-15-2024.mp3" length="43169521" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3595</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Giro Manoyan - The ARF in Armenia’s Politics | Ep 364 - Sep 16, 2024
[EP364]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/364-giro-manoyan-the-arf-in-armenia-politics-opposition-bagrat-srbazan-tavush-movement/</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15764771-giro-manoyan-the-arf-in-armenia-s-politics-ep-364-sep-16-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>364</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Giro Manoyan - The ARF in Armenia’s Politics | Ep 364 - Sep 16, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/16/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Mr. Giro Manoyan](/guest/gmanoyan)
#### Topics:
* Role of the Opposition
* Relations with the Tavush Movement
* Relations with the Diaspora
Episode 364 | Recorded: September 13, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Mr. Giro Manoyan](/guest/gmanoyan)
#### Topics:
* Role of the Opposition
* Relations with the Tavush Movement
* Relations with the Diaspora
Episode 364 | Recorded: September 13, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Mr. Giro Manoyan](/guest/gmanoyan)
#### Topics:
* Role of the Opposition
* Relations with the Tavush Movement
* Relations with the Diaspora
Episode 364 | Recorded: September 13, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-arf-in-armenias-politics">The ARF in Armenia’s Politics</h1>
<h2 id="role-of-the-opposition">Role of the Opposition</h2>
<p>In 2021 the ARF helped form the Hayastan Dashinq, or Armenia Alliance and entered the National Assembly along with Pativ Unem as the 2 main opposition political forces.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the ruling party was able to win a supermajority, passing laws at will, while the opposition has struggled to block measures harmful to Armenia’s national interests. Since the 2021 elections, opposition figures have faced arrests, particularly mayors, the legal system has been purged, and unconstitutional concessions have been made to Azerbaijan. In short, the opposition has been largely ineffective.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you assess the role of the opposition in Armenia, especially the ARF and Hayastan Dashinq?</li>
<li>In hindsight, should the opposition have participated in the 2021 elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>We are a week away from the first anniversary of the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, which resulted in the complete forceful ethnic cleansing of Artsakh. To this day we have dozens of hostages in Baku, including the head of the ARF in Artsakh, Davit Ishkhanyan. Yet, we also hear this criticism that the Armenian opposition, 10 days before September 19 was calmly participating in the sittings of the Armenian National Assembly, discussing mundane agendas. And similarly, 10 days after the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, the opposition was in the national assembly, business as usual.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a fair criticism?</li>
<li>What is necessary for the opposition to become more effective going forward?</li>
<li>What changes can we expect in the fall, towards a more successful parliamentary opposition?</li>
<li>Does the opposition continue to seek a change of the current government?</li>
<li>At what point does the ARF’s participation in the national assembly, as a minor opposition party, become an endorsement of the political system that rubber stamps Pashinyan initiatives, including the potential ratification of a so-called “peace treaty” with Azerbaijan?
<ul>
<li>What benefit is there to stay in the national assembly in this climate?</li>
<li>Previously various ARF representatives have said that ratification of the peace treaty is a red line and the ARF will lay down mandates if it comes to that. Is that position still in force?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Has the Parliament debated whether Pashinyan should attend COP29 in Baku?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="tavush-movement">Tavush Movement</h2>
<p>Since April, Srbazan Bagrat Galstanyan has led a movement, Tavush for the Homeland,  protesting territorial concessions in Tavush, which quickly grew nationwide. Tens of thousands took to the streets, and the government responded with violent force, injuring over 80 people, including journalists. The parliamentary opposition has supported Srbazan, offering logistical help. He has announced that the movement will resume in the fall.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does the ARF support Bagrat Srbazan’s movement? How?</li>
<li>A couple of days ago Bagrat Srbazan said that he <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/149691">met</a> with Robert Kocharyan and Serzh Sargsyan ahead of the Sep 22 town hall. What was discussed?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/364/thumbnail-364.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/364/thumbnail-364.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15764771-giro-manoyan-the-arf-in-armenia-s-politics-ep-364-sep-16-2024.mp3" length="3470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41676958</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>David Darchiashvili - Georgian Elections in October 2024| Ep 363 - Sep 14, 2024
[EP363]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/363-david-darchiashvili-upcoming-georgian-elections-in-october-2024/</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15753197-david-darchiashvili-georgian-elections-in-october-2024-ep-363-sep-14-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>363</itunes:episode><itunes:title>David Darchiashvili - Georgian Elections in October 2024| Ep 363 - Sep 14, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/14/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Election and Politics, and The Geopolitical Context
* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Why is the EU hell bent against the Law on “Foreign Agents”?
* Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Russia Relations
Episode 363 | Recorded: September 11, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Election and Politics, and The Geopolitical Context
* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Why is the EU hell bent against the Law on “Foreign Agents”?
* Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Russia Relations
Episode 363 | Recorded: September 11, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Election and Politics, and The Geopolitical Context
* Who are the Major External Influencers in Georgia’s Politics?
* Why is the EU hell bent against the Law on “Foreign Agents”?
* Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Russia Relations
Episode 363 | Recorded: September 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="election-and-politics">Election and Politics</h2>
<p>Georgia is holding parliamentary elections on October 26, and the internal political rhetoric is heating up.</p>
<p>We know that there is a big rift between the current Georgian Dream ruling party and the West to the point where the EU has paused Georgia’s EU candidacy and has imposed a number of sanctions against the ruling party leadership after the recent law “On Transparency of Foreign Influence”, which the West calls the “Foreign Agent Law” (or even “Putin’s Law”?),  and other legislative changes that were introduced in the country.</p>
<p>Amidst high polling numbers, Georgian Dream has doubled-down on its political and geopolitical positions and officials; just yesterday they announced Bidzina Ivanishvili as their party’s lead candidate, current PM Irakli Kobakhidze as their Number 2, and former PM Irakli Gharibashvili as their Number 3.</p>
<p>Georgia also opted out of some anti-Russian measures throughout the war in Ukraine, causing issues and contention in relations between Georgia and Ukraine.</p>
<h3 id="unm-to-be-banned">UNM To Be Banned?</h3>
<p>Let’s start with a fiery <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1070769791080485&amp;set=a.488868739270596">statement</a> published on the official Georgian Dream Facebook page on August 19, which stated that if GD achieves constitutional majority, then they will initiate a “legal process” as a result of which Saakashvili’s UNM and its satellites would be declared unconstitutional.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does “constitutional majority” mean, what percentage of the vote does GD need to achieve this, and can they?</li>
<li>Why does GD perceive that the UNM should be declared unconstitutional?
<ul>
<li>What is the legal mechanism through which UNM will be declared outside the constitution?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The statement might seem pretty divisive. Is GD concerned about building solidarity?
<ul>
<li>Doesn’t it make sense to be less polarized ahead of elections?</li>
<li>What has been the reaction to this statement?</li>
<li>Do voters demand such strong statements ahead of elections?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Can we say that this is the GD going “all in”? Is there any coming back from this, in terms of restoration of relations with the west?</li>
</ul>
<p>The latest <a href="https://info.imedi.ge/en/elections/2638/gorbi-poll-shows-if-parliamentary-elections-were-held-this-week-georgian-dream-party-would-receive-593-of-votes">GORBI polls</a> show support for GD at 59.3,while the leading opposition party UNM would get 13.1%. Even if all the opposition parties voted in unity, they would theoretically get 40%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How much can we trust these poll numbers?</li>
<li>What major parties are running for leadership, and what ideologies and political views do they represent?</li>
<li>In terms of tactics and strategy, what has been the key to success for GD?
<ul>
<li>Has their rating increased when they’ve taken the opposition head on?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are voters concerned more about internal or external issues?
<ul>
<li>Do they rely heavily on the media?
<ul>
<li>We have been told that almost all media is foreign funded and supports the opposition)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-geopolitical-context">The Geopolitical Context</h2>
<p>The upcoming elections are set to be a defining moment for Georgia&rsquo;s future. Voters will decide whether to turn away from the conservative policies of Georgian Dream, potentially punishing them at the polls, or to endorse their approach, which could effectively put the country’s EU aspirations on hold, at least for now.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Parties and candidates are always saying that the current elections are the most important ever, and the stakes have never been higher, etc. How important are these elections in Georgia, and why?</li>
</ul>
<p>Just last week MPs from Germany traveled to Georgia to support the opposition and gave GD a <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-germany-eu-foreign-agents/33109987.html">stern warning</a> that the “Foreign Agent Law” must be abolished or EU membership will be blocked.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why has this legislative issue become such a major battle ground between the West and Georgia? What is at stake here?
<ul>
<li>Specifically about this law, it’s a lot weaker than laws like FARA in the US, and many other European countries. So it’s a little strange that the EU doesn’t respect a symmetrical relationship with Georgia and its laws.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The West frequently accuses Georgia of serving Russian interests. How true is that?</li>
<li>Is Turkey a player in Georgian politics?</li>
<li>Have relations with China become a greater factor?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="potential-for-post-election-turmoil">Potential for Post-Election Turmoil</h3>
<p>Many are predicting a high chance that the next government of Georgia may not be decided at the polling stations because regardless of the results, there is so much polarization that one side or the other might hit the streets.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Will the opposition accept the results, if the CEC announces a GD victory?</li>
<li>Could there be post-election violence and and potential for non-electoral regime change?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-georgia-azerbaijan-and-russia-relations">Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Russia Relations</h2>
<p>In the negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan is demanding that Armenia change its constitution, theoretically to eliminate territorial demands. Armenia says its constitution has no territorial demands, yet Azerbaijan’s constitution has 45-46,000 sq.km. of demands from Armenia and Georgia. Pashinyan also says that he’s not raising this issue in the negotiations in order to not block it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is Georgia dealing with Azerbaijani territorial claims, border delimitation issues, and are there negotiations to remove such claims?</li>
<li>Some analysts see the upcoming polls in Georgia as pivotal for Armenia as well. Would you agree? Why are these elections in Georgia important for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/363/thumbnail-363.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/363/thumbnail-363.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15753197-david-darchiashvili-georgian-elections-in-october-2024-ep-363-sep-14-2024.mp3" length="2789" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33504146</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Vardan Aramyan - The Armenian Economy in 2024 | Ep 362 - Sep 13, 2024
[EP362]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/362-vardan-aramyan-armenian-economy-in-2024/</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15744950-vardan-aramyan-armenian-economy-in-2024-ep-362-sep-13-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>362</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Vardan Aramyan - The Armenian Economy in 2024 | Ep 362 - Sep 13, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/13/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
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* Remittances
* National Debt
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* Economic Performance
* Remittances
* National Debt
* Economic Outlook
* References
Episode 362 | Recorded: Septemberr 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenias-economy-in-2024">Armenia’s Economy in 2024</h1>
<h2 id="inflation">Inflation</h2>
<p>Let’s start in a place where the news is not so bad at least on paper, and from where most people’s impressions come from about the economy: Inflation.</p>
<p>Armenia was subject to the same global inflationary currents as everyone else after the Covid pandemic, and experienced 10% plus inflation rates until early 2023. For most of 2024 reported inflation has been essentially zero, with the first 7 months <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198349">recording</a> -0.3% inflation. So a slight amount of price deflation at the consumer level. The producer price index is at 2.8%, perhaps showing a modest amount of inflation in the pipeline.</p>
<p>However, when you talk to people on the street, many would disagree that the economy is good, and cite increased prices for food and other basic items.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your read of how Armenia is managing its inflation?</li>
<li>Can you explain why consumers are not feeling the so-called “good economy” in their own pocketbooks and lives?</li>
<li>What are the key factors that affect inflationary and deflationary pressures in the Armenian economy?
<ul>
<li>For example in the US housing shortages can affect housing prices, or wage inflation can lead to prolonged inflationary trends. What factors are major influencers in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="monetary-policy">Monetary Policy</h2>
<p>In July the Armenian Central bank <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1196698">lowered</a> the refinancing rate to 7.75%. Meanwhile, the Dram has appreciated from the start of the year, when it was around 405 to the dollar, to these days at 387 to the dollar. (Around a 4.6% appreciation)</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is a refinancing rate of 7.75% where we need to be for optimal economic growth?
<ul>
<li>Why is there such a big gap between the refinancing rate offered by the central bank to commercial banks and the average interest rate charged by banks? Is this a regulation problem or a risk management problem? (Banks have been super-profitable lately)</li>
<li>Countries such as France, Germany, and Japan have a relatively high amount of regulations that control how much banks can mark up the commercial interest rates. How would you grade Armenia in the amount of regulation it exercises?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What’s fueling the apparent stability and even a not insignificant appreciation of the Dram rate?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="guest-workers-and-remittances">Guest Workers and Remittances</h3>
<p>In April, Armenian banks <a href="https://jam-news.net/armenia-affected-by-sanctions-against-russia/">stopped</a> servicing the Russian “Mir” payment card system. The government also <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198770">reports</a> a significant drop in remittances to Armenia. Money transfers from Russia decreased by 69.4%, while overall remittances decreased by 48%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you attribute this drop in remittances to?</li>
<li>What effect can such a drop have on the Dram rate?</li>
</ul>
<p>Traditionally, a large number of Armenian men go to Russia to earn money each year, and then return in the winter. More recently, Armenia has become a destination for Indian labor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are migration dynamics affecting remittances, wages, and money flow in and out of Armenia?</li>
<li>Are there labor shortages in Armenia? And what do you attribute it to?</li>
<li>What does Armenia need to do in order to reduce its reliance on remittances?
<ul>
<li>I mean it doesn’t seem like it’s something one can rely on; remittances are personal level transmissions, and not taxable financial transactions.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="economic-performance">Economic Performance</h2>
<p>According to the current minister of finance, Vahe Hovannisyan, Armenia <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198545">recorded</a> 10.4% economic growth in the first half of 2024, but he <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198344">expects</a> that the full year 2024 growth will be closer to 6%. If you look at the month over month numbers, the growth rate is already slowing down.</p>
<p>When we look at the ministry’s <a href="https://www.mineconomy.am/media/30059/ARMENIA%27S%20ECONOMIC%20OUTLOOK%202024-6%20ARM%20%281%29.pdf">H1/2024 report</a> on the economy, we see that there is a re-export economy on steroids, primarily raw gold and some precious stones, for which Armenia is basically a flyover or flythrough country.</p>
<p>Outside of this re-export economy, there are a lot of <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198768">weak spots</a> in various sectors: Agriculture, Armenian Brandy, <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198765">tourism</a>, even a 13% <a href="https://bm.ge/en/news/armenias-it-sector-in-crisis-former-economy-minister-on-the-13-decline-over-six-months">slowdown</a> in the IT industry.</p>
<p>We’re including a summary of the numbers in the show notes <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/148979">HERE</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is there an ongoing slowdown to the economy?</li>
<li>What’s the re-export business for us?
<ul>
<li>How is this not being noticed by the “sanctions police”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The government has come under <a href="https://168.am/2024/08/26/2089404.html">criticism</a> for poor planning of its capital and operational expenditures and revenues. There are large discrepancies, and the finance minister has tried to <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198344">explain</a> them away.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the reason why the government is not hitting its marks in projected revenues and expenditures?</li>
<li>The minister pointed to a “reserve fund”, which this year contained 55 billion Drams. Is this a government emergency fund, what is it for?
<ul>
<li>Note: I’m specifically wondering why the government called for international aid during the floods in the north, instead of jumping in with the emergency/reserve fund.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-national-debt">The National Debt</h2>
<p>Armenia’s national debt has recently hit around $12.5B, and stands around 51% of GDP. In March of 2019 the national debt was around $5.5B, although then also it was a little over 50% of GDP.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>50% national debt-to-GDP is not a scary number for a healthy economy. But given the re-export aspect of this economy, is the GDP number being used a reliable indicator for the size of the Armenian economy?</li>
<li>Is Armenia’s national debt too large?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="economic-outlook">Economic Outlook</h2>
<p>The <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/148983">S&amp;P sovereign rating</a> for Armenia remained unchanged at BB-/B.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your outlook for the economy for the balance of 2024?</li>
<li>How would you rate the management of the Armenian economy?</li>
<li>What do you see as the risks to the Armenian economy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198349">Armenia’s economic indicators maintain growth in January-July</a></li>
<li><a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/148983">The sovereign rating of Armenia has been published</a></li>
<li><a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/148979">Առաջին յոթ ամիսներին տնտեսական ակտիվության ցուցանիշը կազմել է 9.6%</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2024/08/26/2089404.html">2024 in the first half of the year, both revenues and expenditures of the state budget were underachieved. &ldquo;LUYS&rdquo; Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198344">Government expects around 6% economic growth in 2024</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198545">Significant economic growth recorded in all sectors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198765">6,1% YoY drop recorded in tourism</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198768">Exports of Armenian goods, excluding gold, drops 4%</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198770">Armenia records decrease in remittances</a></li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198771">Economic activity remains high, says finance minister</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2024/09/05/2093197.html">Հայաստանի տնտեսության լրջագույն խնդիրներն այլևս հնարավոր չէ քողարկել</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2024/09/05/2093075.html">«Կառավարությունը կտրում է այն ճյուղը, որի վրա նստած է»․ մասնագետները՝ տնտեսության աճի տեմպերի թուլացման միտումների մասին</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2024/09/05/2093158.html">ՀՀ իշխանությունների անակնկալ որոշումը․ ինչո՞ւ Թուրքիայի ու Ադրբեջանի հետևից ՀՀ իշխանությունները որոշեցին մասնակցել ԲՐԻԿՍ-ի գագաթնաժողովին</a></li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2024/08/28/2090136.html">Տնտեսության բացասական միտումների պատճառով զարկ են տվել հարկային տեռորի քաղաքականությանը․ տնտեսագետ</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<h2 id="iran-shuts-down-zangezur-corridor-dreams">Iran Shuts Down “Zangezur Corridor Dreams”</h2>
<h3 id="iran-warns-russia-to-back-off">Iran Warns Russia to Back Off</h3>
<p>Following Putin’s visit to Baku a couple of weeks ago, Russia’s <a href="https://asbarez.com/lavrov-accuses-yerevan-of-sabotaging-deal-to-open-transit-routes/">rhetoric</a> became very harsh about Armenia blocking transportation links through Syunik, which Azerbaijan and Turkey call the “Zangezur Corridor”. We also know that there is significant pressure from the West (whether it is the EU or the US) on Armenia and Azerbaijan to open up Armenia to Turkish-Azeri connectivity.</p>
<p>Given Iran&rsquo;s previous stance, it came as no surprise when, last week, Iran <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33108409.html">sent</a> a very clear message to Russia to back off from pressuring Armenia into compromising its sovereignty for a Turkish-Azeri corridor. The Iranian Foreign Minister went to the unusual step of summoning the Russian ambassador.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Russia so motivated to have control over this corridor through Armenia? What’s in it for Russia?
<ul>
<li>Has Russia promised Azerbaijan and Turkey a corridor to keep them as “neutral” as possible through its confrontations with the West?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why does Iran perceive a Russian-controlled corridor or a western managed corridor as part of redrawing boundaries?
<ul>
<li>Aren’t Iran and Russia allies in this case?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The Pashinyan team has been touting this idea that private (undoubtedly “western”) security companies could be involved in some way. But there’s also confusion around this aspect. First there were reports that Pashinyan said that it’d be acceptable to have “<a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1199002">private security companies</a>” “controlling” transportation links through Syunik.</p>
<p>But earlier on Monday, Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1199369">clarified</a> that the private security company would only accompany passengers and cargo on trains and appeared to rule out any form of “control”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the nature of this idea?
<ul>
<li>What level of trust will be given to this company? What does “control” mean anyway?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-talks">Armenia Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<p>Given all this wrangling over Armenia’s south, last week <a href="https://www.azadliq.org/a/ilham-eliyev-sulh-sazisi/33109432.html">Aliyev said</a> that 80% of the so-called “peace agreement” with Armenia is agreed upon. He again repeated that changing the Armenian constitution as a demand is still not fulfilled.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>We’ve talked a lot about the constitution topic. What else is up in the air?</li>
<li>Both countries say that around 13 out of 1000 kilometers of border have been delimited. What is the outlook on the demarcation business?</li>
</ul>
<p>In his press conference on August 31, Pashinyan said that raising the issue of the rights and security of the refugees from Artsakh <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198720">contradicts</a> the national security of Armenia. In response, Artsakh president Samvel Shahramanyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198781">vowed</a> to not jeopardize Armenia’s national security in his quest for a mass repatriation of Artsakhtsis back to their homeland.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was this back and forth between Pashinyan and Shahramanyan all about?</li>
<li>Is Shahramanyan really working on the return, or rights and security of Artsakhtsis with Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="trade">Trade</h2>
<h3 id="iran---armenia-trade">Iran - Armenia Trade</h3>
<p>Amidst all this national insecurity, Armenia and Iran are currently doing over $700 million of trade across their common border. Iran is doubling down on its investments in Armenia and <a href="https://bm.ge/en/news/iran-plans-to-expand-cooperation-with-armenia-by-3-billion">announced plans</a> to invest $3 billion. Reportedly 400 trucks  travel between the two countries daily, so quadrupling that means 1600 trucks a day.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Armenia’s infrastructure capable of sustaining that kind of traffic, and is there work being done to improve the situation?</li>
<li>What is the main focus of Iran’s trade with Armenia? And is that trade WITH Armenia, or THROUGH Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="brics">BRICS</h3>
<p>The day after Putin’s visit to Baku Azerbaijan applied for membership in BRICS. Turkey is also interested and testing the waters with conflicting messages from various high level officials. Georgia has not applied but has struck up a strategic partnership with China and is building a major port on the Black Sea. Iran and Russia are members of BRICS. Armenia has not applied, but is clearly interested.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is BRICS changing the geo-economics of the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Is BRICS a competing organization and market vis-à-vis the EU, or is it a cooperative one? Can countries be members of the EU, as well as BRICS?
<ul>
<li>We’ve already heard that the EU thinks membership in the EAEU is ultimately incompatible with the EU, but perhaps that is for the time when Russia and the West are engaged in a zero-sum crisis in Ukraine.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="accountability-and-the-foreign-intelligence-service">Accountability and the Foreign Intelligence Service</h2>
<p>Armenia’s National Security Service, the NSS, which has sole jurisdiction over state secrets and who gets to see what, is slowly <a href="https://lansinginstitute.org/2024/08/29/armenia-expands-powers-of-foreign-intelligence-service-to-counteract-russian-subversive-activities/">being gutted</a> by Pashinyan and his government. In 2022 it lost its major crime and corruption investigative unit to the so-called “Investigative Committee”, and its unit for protecting high ranking officials to a unit directly reporting to Pashinyan.</p>
<p>Also in 2022, former ombudswoman Kristine Grigoryan was appointed as the head of the newly created Foreign Intelligence Service (FIS). Now Grigoryan and the FIS want to remove the NSS from its oversight of state secrets.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>There is always a core issue to these seemingly bureaucratic and boring organizational shuffles. What is the deal with all these secret service shuffles?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgian-and-azerbaijani-elections">Georgian and Azerbaijani Elections</h2>
<p>On October 26 Georgia will hold parliamentary elections. While Georgian Dream (GD) is leading the polls with 59% of the vote, the rhetoric and political temperature in the country is very high. There are even EU parliamentarians in the country warning the government to take down their “Foreign Agent” law, which they call “Putin’s Law”, and supporting the opposition. Germany has <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-germany-eu-foreign-agents/33109987.html">warned</a> that unless their demands are met Georgia’s EU accession processes will remain frozen. So this election is being <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/salome-zurabishvili-parliamentary-election-october/33094630.html">painted</a> as a pivot to the west or to the east.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s at stake in Georgia and what’s at stake for Armenia, in these October Georgian parliamentary elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan held parliamentary <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-elections-parliament/33102352.html">elections</a> on September 1. They were roundly criticized by the west as being held in a “<a href="https://x.com/ExtSpoxEU/status/1830924004024099084">restrictive political &amp; legal environment, devoid of competition.</a>” Aliyev’s party and people won the day.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why was this so-called “election” even held? As a show, it just showed how undemocratic Azerbaijan is, as a classic petro-dictatorship. As a process, it doesn’t look like anything has changed in the country. So what was the purpose of it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Dziunik</strong>: Everyone should see <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UYAcjnfAg">«Անավարտ մարտը»</a>, a documentary on the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, which I saw on Artsakh&rsquo;s Independence day, Sep. 2.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Do not let Azerbaijan greenwash the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh. Ask your representatives to disclaim, and protest and not attend #COP29. Also, do not believe that moving Armen Ashotyan to house arrest means he is free. Remain vigilant about political prisoners in Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>360</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Suren Hamparian - Armenian American Priorities in the 2024 US Elections | Ep 360 - Sep 6, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Topics:
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* On the Major Presidential Candidates
* On the Vice President Candidates
* On the National Security Apparatus
* Arab-American “Uncommitted” Movement
* And the Armenian Vote goes to…
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* On the Major Presidential Candidates
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#### Topics:
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* On the Major Presidential Candidates
* On the Vice President Candidates
* On the National Security Apparatus
* Arab-American “Uncommitted” Movement
* And the Armenian Vote goes to…
Episode 360 | Recorded: September 4, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenian-american-priorities-in-the-2024-us-elections">Armenian American Priorities in the 2024 US Elections</h1>
<p>The Democratic and Republican national conventions have come and gone with great pomp and circumstance, and we now know the major candidates vying for the presidency of the United States: Donald Trump &amp; JD Vance on the Republican side, vs Kamala Harris and Tim Walz on the Democrat side.</p>
<p>Aram, up until president Biden’s recognition of the Armenian Genocide, and then Congress’s near unanimous affirmation, the top Armenian-American priority in advocating for our causes was recognition of the Genocide.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the issues that are important for the Armenian American community during these 2024 elections?</li>
<li>How large is the Armenian American community estimated at?</li>
<li>In what states are the Armenian American communities politically active and engaged?</li>
<li>In which states are they positioned to make a difference in the outcome of the presidential, or senate or house elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>The ANC of America is one of many influential organizations in the Armenian American community landscape, but there are only a handful of real, grassroots advocacy groups.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the ANCA’s strategy to influence the 2024 elections in the US, to ensure positive outcomes for our community?</li>
<li>Is there cooperation across Armenian organizations for better results through solidarity?</li>
<li>Is there cooperation with other community groups, to achieve greater results together?</li>
<li>Not sure how correct this is but it has been commonly perceived that the Armenian community and the organizations are better connected with the Democrats than the Republicans? Has this been true in the past? If so, has that changed?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia--artsakh">Armenia &amp; Artsakh</h2>
<p>Trump was president from 2017-2021, and Harris has been VP in the white house from 2021 until now. During both administrations Armenia suffered catastrophic losses to Turkey and Azerbaijan, including the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh’s 150,000 Armenian population one year ago this month.</p>
<p>Trump’s administration did nothing to prevent or stop the 44-day war in 2020, despite being fully apprised of the looming war; and the current administration did nothing to prevent the ethnic cleansing and depopulation of Artsakh in 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is ANCA’s assessment and grading for these candidates, Trump and Harris?
<ul>
<li>Do their VPs matter?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Does the ANCA intend to recommend one candidate or another during the 2024 elections?</li>
<li>Why was nothing done to prevent the war by this administration? Was everything already being viewed through the zero sum lens of the conflict with Russia (with implied understanding that the war, regardless of outcome, would not be good for Russia)?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="arab-american-uncommitted-movement">Arab-American Uncommitted Movement</h3>
<p>Since Biden’s all-in support of Israel in its war on Gaza, allocating tens of billions in aid, military and otherwise, while Israel has killed over 40,000 Palestinians, Arab-Americans have started an “<a href="https://apnews.com/article/uncommitted-biden-trump-war-15f96be36b4d5ac167c7ceda72fe65d1">Uncommitted</a>” national movement to tell this administration that their support is not a sure thing, and they need to hear a more thoughtful and balanced US approach to the war in Gaza. One reason why their movement has legs is that Michigan, specifically the area around Dearborn, has a heavy concentration of Arab Americans who vote, and Michigan is a so-called “swing state” in the coming elections.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do Armenians have any similar movements?</li>
<li>What could the major candidates do to woo Armenian votes?
<ul>
<li>References to the “Lawler Bill” <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7288">H.Res.7288</a> and Senator Markey’s <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-resolution/540">S.Res.540</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armenians also have a significant presence in Michigan, would it make sense to join forces with them?
<ul>
<li>In exchange, we could expect the benefit of collaboration when we have causes that can use greater numbers than we have.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/360/thumbnail-360.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/360/thumbnail-360.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15708570-aram-suren-hamparian-armenian-american-priorities-in-the-2024-us-elections-ep-360-sep-5-2024.mp3" length="29642784" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2467</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Glenn Diesen - Russia and The Eurasian World Order | Ep 359 - Sep 4, 2024
[EP359]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/359-glenn-diesen-russia-new-world-order-armenia-multipolarity/</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 12:03:30 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15696595-glenn-diesen-russia-and-the-eurasian-world-order-ep-359-sep-4-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
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#### Topics:
* Norwegian & NATO Support for Ukraine
* “The Ukraine War & the Eurasian World Order”
* Small States and Multipolarity
* Armenia's Position in a Multipolar World
Episode 359 | Recorded: August 30, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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* “The Ukraine War & the Eurasian World Order”
* Small States and Multipolarity
* Armenia's Position in a Multipolar World
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#### Guest:
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* Norwegian & NATO Support for Ukraine
* “The Ukraine War & the Eurasian World Order”
* Small States and Multipolarity
* Armenia's Position in a Multipolar World
Episode 359 | Recorded: August 30, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="russia-and-the-eurasian-world-order">Russia and The Eurasian World Order</h1>
<p>It is the first time that you’re on our podcast. Obviously, in academia, especially in international relations, you’re a well known name. Can you introduce yourself to our audience?</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did you decide to go into a career in academia in international relations? Was it always your first choice?</li>
</ul>
<p>Now let’s talk about the Ukraine war in more detail.</p>
<p>You live in Norway, which is a NATO member and a major supporter of Ukraine in this current war. In 2022 and 2023 combined, Norway <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/foreign-affairs/humanitarian-efforts/neighbour_support/id2908141/">provided</a> over $3B (30.6B NOK) in aid to Ukraine and has pledged to provide significantly more in coming years. This includes military support, such as F16 fighter jets.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is driving Norway’s international policy towards supporting Ukraine?</li>
<li>What is the level of popular support among Norwegians for the current government’s foreign policy towards the war in Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<p>Prof. Diesen, in 2023 you published your book called “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ukraine-War-Eurasian-World-Order/dp/1949762955/ref=sr_1_1">The Ukraine War &amp; the Eurasian World Order</a>”. The book was well received. It currently has a 4.7 rating on Amazon and has received glowing reviews from a number of well-known names, including John Mearsheimer, who said this book is a “ must read for anyone who wants to understand the great shift in the global distribution of power that is taking place before our eyes.&quot;</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe the main thesis of your book for our listeners?</li>
<li>Does having a multipolar world order mandatorily mean more traditional values (as opposed to liberal values) internally?</li>
</ul>
<p>“Ukraine is on its last leg!”, or at least that is what many commentators were saying, BEFORE Ukraine made a brazen attack against Russia on August 6, and actually captured territory in the Kursk oblast in Russia, which it has been able to hold so far.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Ukraine really on its last leg?</li>
<li>What was the logic for the attack on Kursk?</li>
<li>Will Russia retaliate? What is Russia’s next step on the escalation ladder?</li>
</ul>
<p>Reportedly Zelensky will be presenting a “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrlnl2vqe2o">victory plan</a>” to the US. Some call this a “peace plan”, others say it&rsquo;s a shopping list for more military aid backed with a show of victories inside Russia proper.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see this conflict resolving at some point?</li>
<li>What role can the upcoming superpowers, China and India, have in resolving this Russia-West conflict? And how can they help contain it from exploding into an all-out world war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-security-dilemma">Armenia’s Security Dilemma</h2>
<h3 id="small-states">Small States</h3>
<p>When talking about the incoming world order that’s being established, we frequently discuss the orientation of major states: superpowers and regional powers. But given that we’re Armenian and we care about Armenia, let’s talk about the plight of small states</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>You argued that a multi-polar world order could lead to more stability. How does this work for Armenia?</li>
<li>In general will smaller states have more or less sovereignty in a new multi-polar world?</li>
<li>Some have speculated that some smaller states may disappear from the map in the coming world order. What are your thoughts on that?</li>
</ul>
<p>Everywhere you look, there seems to be a tendency for countries to gravitate away from the US hegemonic order. In our South Caucasus neighborhood:</p>
<ul>
<li>Georgia appears to be sidetracking from its “European” integration.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan, which in the past was part of the non-aligned movement, is now applying to join BRICS.</li>
<li>Even Turkey is pursuing a much more independent policy than in the past and there’s also talk of Turkey joining BRICS.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Armenia’s role (or should we say “fate”) in this new multipolar future?</li>
<li>How can one explain the path that Pashinyan is pursuing? Is it a rational policy?
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan team is pushing “Europe”.</li>
<li>Pashinyan team is very much avoiding purchasing weapons from Iran or doing military exercises with Iran, because it would violate US red lines</li>
<li>Given multipolarity, Armenia has 3 major neighbors, Russia, Turkey and Iran. None of them want US influence in the region. Turkey is inimical to Armenia but still a US/NATO partner.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How will conflicts like Armenia and Azerbaijan get resolved in multipolarism?
<ul>
<li>Sure, the role of institutions is less, but is it completely gone?</li>
<li>Wouldn’t this lead to anarchy?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="44-day-war">44 Day War</h3>
<p>After the 44-day war, Armenia lost a lot of agency on the international scene. It seems like instead of sitting at the table, Armenia now is on the menu.</p>
<p>**Questions: **</p>
<ul>
<li>Was Karabakh a trap for Russia and a prelude to the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>How much agency does Armenia have over its own fate?</li>
<li>Did Turkey make use of NATO’s Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR)</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you Dr. Diesen!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a> today, this episode was recorded on August 30, 2024.</p>
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[EP358]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/358-benyamin-poghosyan-declarations-of-armenian-and-nagorno-karabakh-independence-putin-in-baku-azerbaijan-applies-to-brics/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15691812-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-artsakh-pashinyan-press-conf-putin-in-baku-ep-358-sep-1-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>358</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Armenia, Artsakh, Pashinyan Press Conf, Putin in Baku | Ep 358 - Sep 1, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Declarations of Independence
* Declaration of State Sovereignty of Armenia (1990)
* Artsakh Independence Day - September 2 (1991)
* Pashinyan Press Conference
* Negotiations Formats
* Artsakh Rights & Security as Pashinyan’s “National Security” Problem
* Armenian and Azerbaijani Constitutions
* Liberating Occupied Armenian Territories
* Putin in Baku
* Azerbaijan’s Application to BRICS
Episode 358 | Recorded: September 2, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Declarations of Independence
* Declaration of State Sovereignty of Armenia (1990)
* Artsakh Independence Day - September 2 (1991)
* Pashinyan Press Conference
* Negotiations Formats
* Artsakh Rights & Security as Pashinyan’s “National Security” Problem
* Armenian and Azerbaijani Constitutions
* Liberating Occupied Armenian Territories
* Putin in Baku
* Azerbaijan’s Application to BRICS
Episode 358 | Recorded: September 2, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Declarations of Independence
* Declaration of State Sovereignty of Armenia (1990)
* Artsakh Independence Day - September 2 (1991)
* Pashinyan Press Conference
* Negotiations Formats
* Artsakh Rights & Security as Pashinyan’s “National Security” Problem
* Armenian and Azerbaijani Constitutions
* Liberating Occupied Armenian Territories
* Putin in Baku
* Azerbaijan’s Application to BRICS
Episode 358 | Recorded: September 2, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="declarations-of-independence">Declarations of Independence</h2>
<p>The past 10 days were memorable with 2 notable anniversaries:</p>
<ul>
<li>On August 23, 1990 the declaration of state sovereignty was adopted in the Supreme Soviet of the Armenian SSR.</li>
<li>On September 2, 1991 the Republic of Artsakh declared its independence from the Soviet Union.</li>
</ul>
<p>It is interesting to note that the August 23 declaration in Armenia referred to the desire to unify the Armenian SSR, Nagorno Karabakh (NKAO), and the region of Shahumyan. Meanwhile, a year later, the authorities of Artsakh at the time decided to go for full independence, with their declaration.</p>
<p>And here we are, 33 years later from that date with an ethnically cleansed Artsakh and Azerbaijan demanding that Armenia’s own constitution be changed to remove any vestiges or reminders that there ever was something called Karabakh. And of course, we have a regime in Armenia that appears to be yielding to one demand after another. At best, Pashinyan is trying to wiggle away using word play.</p>
<p>This week was no different as in a publicized <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/statements-and-messages/item/2024/08/23/Nikol-Pashinyan-Announcement/">statement</a> on the occasion, Pashinyan tried to make the argument that the entire declaration of independence need not be addressed literally.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the significance of this day, Pashinyan’s statement, and attempts to change the constitution?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-press-conference">Pashinyan Press Conference</h2>
<p>Two days ago on Saturday, August 31, Pashinyan held a <a href="https://en.armradio.am/2024/08/31/live-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyans-press-conference-2/">press conference</a>. Let’s review some of the points from that event.</p>
<h3 id="negotiation-formats">Negotiation Formats</h3>
<p>He <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198723">said</a> that on Friday (the 30th of August) Armenia proposed to Azerbaijan to sign the latest draft of the “peace treaty” as is, with 13 out of 17 points in the agreement fully agreed upon. The rest would be worked on, going forward. He <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198717">offered</a> to meet Aliyev on the border between the two countries to discuss bilaterally.</p>
<p>Of course, Azerbaijan immediately <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33102785.html">rejected</a> this idea, saying that the Pashinyan team had simply deleted the contentious references, including the demand to change Armenia’s constitution. It’s important to note that in these “bilateral negotiations” the sides appear to be simply emailing each other a Microsoft Word document, with “Track Changes” turned on.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think there’s enough trust or goodwill between Armenia and Azerbaijan, or just between Pashinyan and Aliyev, that bilateral negotiations can yield any positive results for Armenia?</li>
<li>Do we know what the 17 points are, and which 13 points have been fully agreed upon?</li>
<li>Is Azerbaijan’s posture simply meant to throw a monkey wrench in the negotiations, and remove any possibility for a peace treaty, however vacuous that treaty will be?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-and-azerbaijan-constitutions">Armenia and Azerbaijan Constitutions</h3>
<p>Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198730">stated</a> that the Armenian constitution does not contain claims on Azeri territory, but Azerbaijan’s constitution does contain significant claims to Armenian, as well as Georgian territories. He pointed out that Azerbaijan lays claim to 45-46,000 square kilometers of additional territories in the South Caucasus, but that he’s not bringing up this issue in the negotiations because it would block the talks.</p>
<p>Supposedly he’s relying on a clause in the agreement that stipulates that domestic law may not be used to block any part of the agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this stipulation in the agreement about domestic laws give you the warm and fuzzies about living securely in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh-pashinyans-national-security-problem">Artsakh Pashinyan’s National Security Problem?</h3>
<p>Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198720">blasted</a> Artsakh officials in Armenia who have demanded that Armenia stand up for their right to return home. He said that their demands go counter to Armenia’s national security, and that the 1996 Lisbon Principles turned the Artsakh problem into an Armenia problem.</p>
<p>He conveniently avoided discussing his washing of his hands of 150,000 Armenians, their homeland, and their rights and security, when he one-sidedly signed the Prague agreement in 2022.</p>
<p>The Lisbon Principles stipulated territorial integrity of Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan, legal status for Artsakh, and rights and security for them. Then came the Madrid Principles which stipulated territorial integrity of Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan, self-determination for Artsakh, and right of return of all IDPs, rights &amp; security, and demilitarization.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With what logic is Pashinyan blaming Artsakh for its own ethnic cleansing, and claiming that their rights and security, which Aliyev had agreed to, run counter to Armenia’s national security?</li>
<li>Pashinyan has reportedly also <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198727">agreed in principle</a> to jointly apply to dissolve the OSCE MG. Does Pashinyan have the right to do this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="liberating-armenian-sovereign-territories">Liberating Armenian Sovereign Territories</h3>
<p>Pashinyan also <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198731">said</a> that Armenia does not seek to restore its sovereignty over the 200 square kilometers of territory currently occupied by Azerbaijan, through military force. He said he believes that this can be done through peaceful negotiations.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you expect that Azerbaijan will peacefully move out of Armenian territory when a so-called “peace treaty” is signed?</li>
<li>Is this territorial restitution part of the 17 points in the document?
<ul>
<li>Note: Aliyev has said he’s not moving his troops back one inch.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="putin-in-azerbaijan">Putin in Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>Two weeks ago Russian president Putin was in Baku on a rare, but lavish <a href="https://www.specialeurasia.com/2024/08/19/putin-visit-baku-caucasus/">two-day state visit</a>. He took with him a large contingent of government officials. He joined Aliyev in his residence for dinner, lots of hugs and photo ops, several agreements were signed to enhance economic, strategic, and political relations, and in particular emphasizing and extending their strategic partnership under the Declaration of Allied Interaction until 2026.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were the main outcomes of Putin’s visit to Baku, and how does the reinforced strategic partnership between Russia and Azerbaijan affect Armenia?</li>
<li>Does the strategic relationship between Russia and Azerbaijan compete with those between Turkey and Azerbaijan? For instance, was Azerbaijan’s recent agreement to defer the “Zangezur Corridor” precondition to a later date a concession to Putin?
<ul>
<li>We know that it was the US that had been touting the “Middle Corridor” recently in which it sees Turkey play a central role. So is the delay in coming to an agreement on it essentially a loss for the US?</li>
<li>If so, what did Putin get in return?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan stated that it is willing to sign an agreement with Armenia with Russia as the mediator. Armenia has all but excluded Russia. The West doesn’t have enough levers to impose an agreement on Azerbaijan, and we’re not sure if bilateral talks are yielding any real results. Rather, it seems like all the substantial differences are being excluded in favor of signing an agreement on principles alone.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where does this leave the talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijans-application-to-brics">Azerbaijan’s Application to BRICS</h3>
<p>The day after Putin’s visit Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/794058/azerbaijan-formally-applies-to-join-russia-and-china-led-economic-bloc-brics/">applied</a> for membership in BRICS. Clearly this was a topic discussed between the countries and Putin approved of the idea. So this would seem to put Azerbaijan in the first step of its membership application.</p>
<p>Armenia, meanwhile, <a href="https://bm.ge/en/news/international-conference-on-armenias-cooperation-with-brics-and-sco-to-be-held-in-yerevan">launched</a> an Armenia-BRICS Business Cooperation Center. This is not formally a stage of membership application.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where does Azerbaijan’s application position the country, within the various world economic alignments, whether the East, the West, the Global South, or otherwise?</li>
<li>What is the Armenia-BRICS initiative about?</li>
<li>How does alignment with BRICS alter the South Caucasus, and also, where is Georgia in relation with BRICS?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Armenia without Artsakh is very vulnerable; All Armenians should think about how to reduce this vulnerability</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Sep. 2 as a symbol of what Armenia and Diaspora united as a Nation can achieve, to keep on our agenda</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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<p>Russian Iranian relations have never been closer than they’ve been since the war in Ukraine began. The Russian, Ottoman and Persian empires have always clashed in the South Caucasus and traded territories between them, but it’s only since the fall of the Soviet Union, and perhaps more specifically since the fall and ethnic cleansing of Artsakh that Russia has recognized how strategic its relations are with Iran, in the modern world.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you characterize Russian-Iranian relations at this stage?</li>
<li>What is the importance of Armenia in the Iran-Russia North-South “axis”?</li>
<li>Is it possible for Azerbaijan to “replace” Armenia in the Iran-Russia North-South “axis”?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="war-with-ukraine">War with Ukraine</h2>
<p>It&rsquo;s been almost a month since Ukraine initiated a surprise invasion of Russia’s Kursk region and captured a number of towns and villages, before Russia started reacting. The 2.5 year old war in Ukraine has turned into a war of attrition, so from a resource and strategic perspective, on the surface this adventure doesn’t seem to make any sense, but from a… “chutzpah” perspective I guess Zelensky is showing Putin that not only is he not about to roll over and surrender, but he has the energy to mount counter offensives.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your take on this “Kursk gambit”? What are the potential upsides and downsides for the sides?</li>
<li>Where do things stand now? How do you expect this to end?</li>
<li>Do you see an end to the war in Ukraine?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="arrest-of-pavel-durov">Arrest of Pavel Durov</h2>
<p>Last week Russian entrepreneur and IT magnate <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Durov">Pavel Durov</a> was arrested in France. Durov is the man behind social media apps like Telegram and VK, and has had run-ins with the Russian government for refusing to turn over customer data. Last week he was arrested in France. The <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pavel-durov-has-nothing-hide-telegram-says-arrested-founder-2024-08-26/">charges</a> are that his Telegram app, which is not moderated or censored, is acting as a conduit for pedophilia and drug trafficking. And even though French president Macron <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1198363">says</a> the arrest is not politically motivated, it’s hard to not think of the Julian Assange case, with Wikileaks.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What did you make of this arrest? Is it part of the Russia-West proxy wars?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="on-the-ground-in-armenia-and-russia">On the ground in Armenia and Russia</h2>
<h3 id="observations-in-armenia">Observations in Armenia</h3>
<p>When we first connected to do a show, you told us that you’d been traveling recently, in Armenia and in Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were you doing in Armenia, where did you visit, can you tell us your impressions from your trip?</li>
</ul>
<p>Read Pietro Shakarian’s recent article titled: <strong><a href="https://usrussiaaccord.org/pietro-a-shakarian-armenia-and-georgia-a-tale-of-two-neighbors/">ACURA Exclusive: Pietro A. Shakarian: Armenia and Georgia: A Tale of Two Neighbors</a></strong>.</p>
<h3 id="observations-in-russia">Observations in Russia</h3>
<p>After a year at the AUA, you’ve been based in St. Petersburg for the past over a year.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you visit around Russia as well, especially areas where you can find Armenian culture and heritage?</li>
<li>Where is Petrozavodsk?</li>
<li>Are there parallels between the Armenian and Russian countrysideS?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 356 | Recorded: Aug 21, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="georgian-elections-in-2024">Georgian Elections in 2024</h1>
<h2 id="georgian-politics-amidst-global-currents">Georgian Politics Amidst Global Currents</h2>
<p>Georgia is holding parliamentary elections in October 2024 and the internal political rhetoric is heating up.</p>
<p>We know that there is a big rift between the current Georgian Dream ruling party and the West to the point where Georgia’s EU candidacy has been paused and a number of sanctions have been imposed against the ruling party leadership after the recent law “On Transparency of Foreign Influence”, more commonly known as the “Foreign Agent Law”,  among other anti-liberal legislative changes introduced in the country.</p>
<p>Amidst high polling numbers, Georgian Dream appears to have doubled-down on its position of independence from the collective west. Georgian Dream has even raised the specter of outlawing the opposition United National Movement (UNM) party.</p>
<h3 id="unm-to-be-banned">UNM To Be Banned?</h3>
<p>Let’s start with this fiery <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1070769791080485&amp;set=a.488868739270596">statement</a> published on the official Georgian Dream Facebook page, which states that if GD achieves constitutional majority, then they will initiate a “legal process” as a result of which the UNM and its satellites will be declared unconstitutional.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can we double-click on this? Why does GD perceive that UNM should be declared unconstitutional?
<ul>
<li>How much are they being funded from the outside?</li>
<li>What is the specific legal mechanism through which UNM will be declared outside the constitution</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The statement might seem pretty divisive. Is GD concerned about building solidarity?
<ul>
<li>Doesn’t it make sense to be less polarized ahead of elections?</li>
<li>What has been the reaction to this statement?</li>
<li>Do voters demand such strong statements ahead of elections?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Can we say that this is the GD going “all in”? Is there any coming back from this, in terms of restoration of relations with the west?
<ul>
<li>Does this mean that the only recourse for the west is to sponsor a revolution?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The latest <a href="https://info.imedi.ge/en/elections/2638/gorbi-poll-shows-if-parliamentary-elections-were-held-this-week-georgian-dream-party-would-receive-593-of-votes">polls</a> show support for GD at 59.3,while the leading opposition party UNM would get 13.1%. Even if all the opposition parties voted in unity, they would theoretically get 40%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the GORBI poll reliable? How much can we trust these numbers?</li>
<li>What major parties are running for leadership, and what ideologies and political views do they represent?</li>
<li>Is 59.3% sufficient for GD to get a constitutional majority?</li>
<li>In terms of tactics and strategy, what has been the key to success for GD?
<ul>
<li>Has their rating increased when they’ve taken the opposition head on?</li>
<li>Are voters concerned more about internal or external issues?</li>
<li>Do they rely heavily on the media?
<ul>
<li>We have been told that almost all media is foreign funded and supports the opposition)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The upcoming parliamentary elections in October are seen as pivotal in determining the future direction of Georgia, whether the country will reject the conservative policies of Georgian Dream and punish the party in the polls or whether the voters will approve of their policies and therefore put Georgia’s EU relations on ice for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Parties and candidates are always saying that the current elections are the most important ever, that the stakes have never been higher, etc. How important are these elections in Georgia, and why?</li>
<li>The West frequently accuses Georgia of serving Russian interests. How true is that?</li>
<li>Is Turkey a player in Georgian politics?</li>
<li>Do you have any predictions? What are the main scenarios that could unfold?</li>
<li>Some analysts see the upcoming polls in Georgia as pivotal for Armenia as well. Would you agree? Why are these elections in Georgia important for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="mikheil-saakashvili-and-his-role-in-2008">Mikheil Saakashvili and His Role in 2008</h3>
<p>One of the topics of the election “debate” is the level of responsibility of Mikheil Saakashvili, the former leader who founded UNM and is currently in jail, in the 2008 war with Georgia. GD has <a href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/georgian-ruling-party-accuses-former-president-saakashvili-of-unleashing-2008-war/3302841#">accused</a> Saakashvili of starting the war and has called for a “legal process” to investigate.</p>
<p>Meanwhile UNM and supporters inside and outside the country have claimed that Saakashvili is a political prisoner. They have also complained and blamed the authorities for his visible frailty.</p>
<p>NOTE:</p>
<ul>
<li>ECHR has <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/may/23/former-georgian-president-had-fair-trial-strasbourg-judges-rule">determined</a> that he is not.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How valid is Saakashvili’s imprisonment and trial in your opinion?</li>
<li>What are the charges against him?</li>
<li>How far along is the trial process?</li>
<li>What are the conditions that he’s being held under?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="attacks-against-georgian-orthodox-church">Attacks Against Georgian Orthodox Church</h2>
<p>Earlier this spring, we read an allegation from the Georgian government (Kobakhidze) which <a href="https://info.imedi.ge/en/politics/1347/georgian-pm-denounces-ngos-for-attacking-orthodox-church">criticizes</a> NGOs that attack the Georgian Orthodox Church.</p>
<p>This is interesting to us because in Armenia currently, the main mantle of the opposition is being carried by a member of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan. The top leadership of the church has stated that the movement is the Archbishop&rsquo;s personal initiative, but at the same time the Catholicos has “blessed” the Archbishop and obviously is accommodative of the process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the exact nature of these attacks that Kobakhidze was criticizing?
<ul>
<li>We haven’t been able to find much published in English.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How do Georgians see the separation of Church and State in their country?
<ul>
<li>How religious are Georgian people in your opinion?</li>
<li>How much influence do religious leaders have in politics?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="book-on-russian-and-georgian-relations">Book on Russian and Georgian relations</h2>
<p>Recently, we followed with interest your <a href="https://vk.ru/video-212783184_456241032">presentation</a> of a new book («История взаимоотношений России и Грузии в X – первой половине XIX вв.»), that is a collaboration between Georgian and Russian scholars on the history of mutual relations between Georgia and Russia. What caught our eye about this presentation was that you mentioned that this book is the first such byproduct of true Russian-Georgian dialogue, “without a Western grant”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us more about this book, what was the impetus for starting it?</li>
<li>How difficult is it to converge on a joint narrative?
<ul>
<li>Would Georgians agree with what is written?</li>
<li>How are differences handled in the book?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Recently, Russia made a big stink because in an Armenian textbook, the authors had written that “Russia annexed Eastern Armenia”. How is the topic treated in Russia? Do you find that term, “annex”, problematic yourself?</li>
<li>Do you think it is possible to have a general enough narrative to create a single book that would cover the relations between Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Russia, Iran, Turkey… all in a single book?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<p>Armenia and Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33029885.html">participated</a> in a NATO summit in Yerevan at the request of Secretary of State Blinken, but they could not reach any new agreements. Since then Assistant Secretary James O’Brien visited Baku, and to all accounts the US is exerting some pressure on Aliyev to sign an agreement, and soon.</p>
<p>A couple of interesting developments occurred this past week:</p>
<ol>
<li>The sides <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33070066.html">confirmed</a> that the “transport links” provision, this is Baku’s so-called “Zangezur corridor” demand, has been removed from the talks.</li>
<li>Armenia has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33079864.html">linked</a> the issue of applying for the dissolution of the OSCE Minsk Group to the signing of a “peace treaty”.</li>
</ol>
<p>We should make it clear that there’s not going to be a genuine Peace Treaty any time soon. Whether it’s called a quote-unquote “peace treaty,” or whatever, Baku has made it clear that they will only sign some agreement around principles and that’s it. Everything else about achieving peace is Pashnyan hype, in fact the Azerbaijani side does not call it a “peace treaty”.</p>
<h3 id="transport-links-removed-from-talks">Transport Links Removed from Talks</h3>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why was the “Zangezur corridor” discussion removed from the talks?
<ul>
<li>Is this a result of US pressure?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why is Baku not interested in signing a real peace treaty?</li>
</ul>
<p>Putin is in Baku for a 2 day visit, yesterday and today.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What were the major results?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan is continuing to demand changes to Armenia’s constitution. Pashinyan’s timetable to meet Aliyev’s demands is 2027, meanwhile Armenian parliamentary elections are scheduled for 2026 and this current ruling party and government may or may not continue in power beyond that.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What sort of promises can be made for 2027 if this current government is not re-elected? Can they make such commitments on behalf of a democratically elected future government?</li>
<li>What scenarios arise under these conditions?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="minsk-group-issue-linked-to-peace-treaty">Minsk Group Issue Linked to Peace Treaty</h3>
<p>Let’s look at the Minsk Group issue. As we said, Aliyev has demanded that both Armenia and Azerbaijan together apply to the OSCE to dissolve the Minsk Group. Armenia has <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/838223.html">said</a> that this can be done in the context of signing a peace treaty. Meanwhile the US also <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1197852">indicated</a> they may be open to the dissolution of the Minsk Group by saying that they’re ready to work with the sides in whatever format.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the significance of dissolving the OSCE Minsk Group, which is the internationally agreed-upon platform for the cause of Artsakh? If Aliyev claims that he has solved the Karabakh issue, then why is this still on his agenda?</li>
<li>Does the Armenian government have the right to surrender the cause of Artsakh?</li>
<li>Do they mean “peace treaty”, or just any agreement in principle?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="western-azerbaijani-tactic">“Western Azerbaijani” Tactic</h3>
<p>Azerbaijan is officially sponsoring and endorsing the concept of “Western Azerbaijan”. They claim to have lists of hundreds of thousands of people ready to go to Armenia. Meanwhile, no effort like that - and we mean systematic cataloging of hundreds of thousands of Armenian refugees from Baku, Sumgait, and other cities outside of Artsakh - appears to be done on the Armenian side.</p>
<p>It seems like Aliyev has concocted and hyped this propaganda about “the return of Azeris to Western Azerbaijan” essentially as a negotiation topic to help him reject the repatriation of Armenians back to Artsakh. When Armenia doesn’t discuss Artsakhtsi’s return to Nagorno Karabakh the issue goes away. But when their repatriation gains in salience, the Western Azerbaijan story gains momentum.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Aliyev pursuing “Western Azerbaijan” as an official state policy? Is it a negotiation tactic or something else?</li>
<li>Why not link the “western Azerbaijani” issue to the repatriation of Azerbaijani Armenians back to their homes in Baku and Sumgait?</li>
<li>Why doesn’t Armenia link the dissolution of the Minsk Group to the repatriation of 150,000 Armenian back to their lands in Artsakh? What is the right negotiation mechanism to get 150,000 Artsakh Armenians back in their homeland?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijani-insight-on-the-talks">Azerbaijani Insight on the Talks</h3>
<p>An <a href="https://168.am/2024/08/15/2085659.html">interview</a> from Tofig Zulfugarov, a former Azerbaijani FM, hinted at some of Azerbaijan’s demands:</p>
<ul>
<li>“Borders should be determined <strong>based on all maps from 1920 until the collapse of the Soviet Union</strong>.</li>
<li>The declaration of Alma Ata is actually perceived by each of the parties in a different way.”</li>
<li>Do not use the wording &ldquo;peace agreement&rdquo;, it is a working name. We are actually dealing with an agreement or declaration of principles.</li>
<li>The components of the peace agreement are still being developed, of course, some &ldquo;tracks&rdquo; are known: at the level of deputy prime ministers.</li>
<li>There is talk of restoring communications, a border demarcation and demarcation commission has been created</li>
<li>Another &ldquo;track&rdquo; is being formed on humanitarian issues, for example, <strong>let&rsquo;s give up on international courts</strong> from mutual claims. This means let&rsquo;s solve these issues together during the negotiation process.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does “all the maps from 1920” mean?</li>
<li>“Let’s give up on International Courts from mutual claims”? When Azerbaijan has no legal leg to stand on in the face of its ethnic cleansing of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="goris-kapan-road-cover-up">Goris-Kapan Road Cover Up</h2>
<p>After nearly 4 years of “strategic silence”, the Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs officially <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33078508.html">confirmed</a> that there was a deal behind the back of the Armenian people to hand over the Goris-Kapan road.</p>
<p>Interesting to note that:</p>
<ul>
<li>Nikol Pashinyan <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/hy/interviews-and-press-conferences/item/2020/12/27/Nikol-Pashinyan-Interview-Petros-Ghazaryan/">said</a> that there was a “verbal” understanding, where he contradicted himself, since there exists a signed document that the government of Armenia has officially confirmed.</li>
<li>Critics claim that this agreement doesn’t mention any legal basis for its existence. It seems to be a completely separate agreement to the Nov 9-10 agreement.</li>
<li>Ara Ayvazyan, the minister of Foreign Affairs at the time <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/ara-ayvazyany-g%D6%85ris-kapan-chanaparahi-ev-shournukhi-depkerits/33052219.html">confirmed</a> to Azatutyun that the agreement was kept secret even from him, the top diplomat of the country!</li>
<li>The <a href="https://www.aniarc.am/2021/02/22/18-december-memorandum-2020-goris-davit-bek-kapan-jakaten/">Russian language agreement specified</a> that the road was going to be open for transportation, with Armenian soldiers on the “Armenian” portions of it, while the Azerbaijani soldiers on the “Azerbaijani” portions of it. The road today is completely closed.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>So why did Pashinyan give this highway to Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Why was it done so non-transparently?</li>
</ul>
<p>A similar issue is festering in the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33077308.html">border discussions</a>. The Armenian government is not being communicative, or transparent, or even honest with the Armenian people. We do not know what written or verbal agreements exist.</p>
<p>This past week Azerbaijan accused Armenia of firing from its positions in Tigranashen and Kajaran, towards Azerbaijani outposts. Armenia denied all of the accusations, but the locations are significant. Tigranashen is one of the so-called “enclaves” demanded by Azerbaijan, while Kajaran is an important location in Syunik.</p>
<p>A similar pattern preceded the handover of Kirants, where Azerbaijan made threats and Pashinyan turned it on his own population: “if we don’t give the villages, then by the end of week there’ll be war”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>With trust in this government so low, what are your expectations from these border discussions?</li>
<li>Do we know the basis for any of the territorial changes? What maps, what legal basis, etc?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Anna</strong>: An objectified Armenia lonely in the region, afraid of processes around it, unable to respond</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Complete lack of government accountability on 2nd anniversary of the Surmalu Blast in Yerevan</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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<p>Kevork, as this is your first time on our show, would you tell us about yourself, your background, and your interests for our listeners?</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did you start podcasting?</li>
<li>What challenges did you encounter when you moved to Germany?
<ul>
<li>What is the atmosphere in Germany on the issues of Palestine and Ukraine?</li>
<li>We’re sometimes seeing alarming videos of police using excessive force against protesters. Doesn’t seem like a very liberal thing to do?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What are your keys to success in podcasting?
<ul>
<li>How much time do you spend preparing for podcasts?</li>
<li>What recommendations would you have for Groong?</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<h2 id="syria">Syria</h2>
<p>NOTE: last minute, but we should ask him to talk about what he knows probably best, the Syrian conflict.</p>
<p>You said after the Iraq war, it was obvious to you…</p>
<p>You said it was a deliberate policy to empty the middle east of native christians. ..</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you give a brief history of how it started? Who started it? Who is pursuing this policy that you’re talking about? How did the Armenian community fare?</li>
<li>Erdogan says he’ll pull out troops based on conditions… What are those conditions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="war-in-gaza-war-in-the-middle-east">War in Gaza, War in the Middle East</h2>
<p>Let’s turn our attention to the Middle East: Israel and Gaza are in a 10 month old conflict that is constantly threatening to expand into a regional conflagration. Hamas started this with an insane attack on October 7, 2023, reportedly killing over 1,100 Israelis.  Since then Netanyahu has escalated this into a full scale war on Gaza, killing around 40,000 Palestinians. They’ve hit hospitals, residential buildings, and in the past week they’ve hit schools, killing scores of children.</p>
<p>Since the assassinations of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran 2 weeks ago, and Hezbollah leader Fuad Shukr in Beirut, the specter of an Iranian response has turned the region into a short-fused powder keg.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of the current situation in the middle east?</li>
</ul>
<p>Iran has vowed “unrestrained response” to avenge the assassinations. But back in April, when it sent waves of drones towards Israel in response to the assassination of an Iranian general in Damascus, that response was so well advertised that it resulted in very low damage. Basically it was a show.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we in the same situation where the regional powers do not want to escalate the conflict and will seek a face-saving “response”? Or do they actually have a greater appetite to expand the war in Gaza into a wider conflict involving perhaps Iran, Turkey, maybe even Russia and the US?</li>
</ul>
<p>Israel has recalled its forces stationed in Georgia and Azerbaijan home asap. Interestingly, none of these countries have ever admitted to the presence of Israeli forces in the Caucasus, but clearly some intel surfaced that led Israel to the implicit admission, for the sake of the safety of its forces.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do we know what threat loomed over Israeli forces in the Caucasus?</li>
<li>What are these forces doing in Georgia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Will this de-facto admission on the part of Israel become a problem for it, and how might Iran counteract this presence?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="bibi-in-dc">Bibi in DC</h3>
<p>Two events caught our attention in the past month. Netanyahu came to the US and addressed our Congress. He <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/25/readout-of-president-joe-bidens-meeting-with-prime-minister-netanyahu-of-israel/">met</a> with president Joe Biden, <a href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-netanyahu-gaza-war-israel-3d7a6b47060fbe51f66d82104ac5e1aa">as well as</a> former president Trump at Mar-a-Lago. He did not meet with Kamala Harris. All of this in the days directly preceding the Israeli assassinations.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved during Netanyahu’s visit to the US?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="palestinians-unity-in-beijing">Palestinians Unity in Beijing</h3>
<p>The other event was a <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/30/china-says-palestinian-rivals-hamas-and-fatah-met-for-talks-in-beijing">meeting</a> of various Palestinian factions in Beijing. It generally flew under most media and public radars, but Hamas and Fatah expressed strong will towards reconciliation, and also China as the mediator was an interesting twist.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the fundamental points of disunity between these Palestinian factions?</li>
<li>What was achieved in Beijing?</li>
<li>Can Palestinians expect a more united government and perhaps ruling elite, to confront the genocide that Netanyahu is carrying out against them?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia">Armenia</h2>
<p>Since we’re an Armenian podcast and you’re an Armenian :) we must ask you some questions, since we know you sometimes comment on this and have guests on your podcast related to Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Were you following the so-called “velvet revolution” in 2018? What did you think about the events at that time and since then?</li>
<li>What are your thoughts on the 44 day war in Artsakh and what were your feelings as events culminated in the ethnic cleansing in Artsakh?</li>
<li>What was the role of Turkey in the war?</li>
<li>Do you see Pashinyan’s moves to appease Turkey (regarding the Armenian Genocide) as an attack on your own identity?</li>
<li>How do you see Armenia’s relations with the Diaspora under Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
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Episode 353 | Recorded: August 12, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="irans-geopolitical-moves">Iran’s Geopolitical Moves</h2>
<h3 id="in-armenia">In Armenia</h3>
<p>Two weeks ago on July 28th Iran inaugurated Masoud Pezheshkian as its new president. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33056549.html">attended</a> the events in Tehran and met with Ayatollah Khamenei, as well as Pezheshkian. The message to Pashinyan was that the change of presidents would not change Iran’s policy towards the Caucasus, and that they remain firmly opposed to any special corridors through Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>As much as this might sound comforting to Armenians that Iran is warning Azerbaijan and Turkey not to touch Armenia, is there also a warning for Pashinyan here?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan “hearing” that warning?</li>
<li>What’s at stake in Armenia for Iran?
<ul>
<li>Are the stakes similar to India’s interests in the Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>This morning Pezheshkian&rsquo;s foreign minister Mohammed Javad Zarif <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/iranian-vice-president-resigns-only-084119806.html">resigned</a>, days after his appointment.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does this mean for its relationship with the West, and negotiations on the JCPOA?</li>
<li>Any affect on its policies towards the Middle East?</li>
<li>How do you see either a Trump or Harris presidency affecting the policies in the region, towards Armenia, and towards Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="in-the-middle-east">In the Middle East</h3>
<p>Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh was also in Tehran to attend president Pezheskian’s inauguration, but he was <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/03/middleeast/iran-haniyeh-death-projectile-vengeance-intl/index.html">assassinated</a> by Israel’s Mossad. At the same time, Israel <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-lebanon.html">claimed</a> to have assassinated a senior Hezbollah commander near Beirut.</p>
<p>Iran has vowed an unrestrained retaliation in the Middle East, and as a result many countries, including Armenia, have warned their citizens to either leave Lebanon immediately, or not travel there until further notice, given the rising tensions and potential of war between Israel and Lebanon.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we on the brink of the war in Gaza exploding into a larger, regional mess?</li>
<li>Is there appetite on the part of the regional powers, like Iran, Israel, and Turkey,  to expand into a larger confrontation?</li>
<li>In April, Iran launched a large drone attack against Israel in retaliation for the killing of an Iranian general in Syria. That attack was widely advertised and came and went without great harm. Is the current situation similar, or is the potential for a wider conflict greater now than 6 months ago?</li>
<li>Discussion on NE syrian Kurdish element</li>
</ul>
<p>Last week Erdogan warned that Turkey could enter Israel, in his words: “just like we did in Artsakh”. Additionally, Turkey joined South Africa’s International Court of Justice (ICJ) case against Israel, in defense of Palestinian rights. But despite all the talk, the countries still maintain diplomatic relations, Azerbaijani oil flows to Israel through Turkey, and just this week a contract for Turkey to supply electricity to Israel was <a href="https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-813999">renewed</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Turkey serious about escalating conflict in the Middle East, or are these Erdogan’s standard populistic shenanigans?</li>
<li>The current situation in Lebanon is tense. Is it mostly in south Lebanon, or do you feel it in Beirut as well?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-talks">Armenia Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<p>Armenia and Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33070066.html">announced</a> this past week that “unblocking regional transport links”, essentially meaning Azeri demands for the so-called Zangezur Corridor have been removed from the draft Armenian-Azeri agreement, in order to make it possible to sign some sort of an agreement. Aliyev’s representative, Elchin Amirbayov, said that by mutual agreement they removed the provision and they’d come back to it at a later stage.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why?
<ul>
<li>Is it possible that Azerbaijan agreed to US pressure or enticement in order to remove obstacles to signing “something” soon, possibly before the elections in the US?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In the same interview Amirbayov said that Armenia changing its constitution remains another contentious issue. Meanwhile, Pashinyan’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32999804.html">timetable</a> for a new constitution “from scratch” is in 2027. Let’s note that Armenia’s parliamentary elections are scheduled in 2026, and there’s no guarantee that the current deeply unpopular government will get re-elected.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Since they agreed to delay the transportation link issue, is it possible that they will come up with a clever way to delay this as well?</li>
<li>Do the “mutual agreements” mentioned by Amirbayov include more verbal agreements by Pashinyan behind everyone’s back, and do they paint the next government of Armenia into a corner, with opaque international promises?</li>
</ul>
<p>Recently US diplomats have been <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33058356.html">very clear in expressing</a> the policy that the US is pursuing in the Caucasus, and that is to break it out of its orbit around Russia. Similarly the EU’s Toivo Klaar <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33066283.html">stated</a> that Armenia and Azerbaijan need to find further political will and make tough compromises for the sake of the expected agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a sense of urgency on the part of the West to get this Caucasus policy to reach a milestone before the war in Ukraine simmers down, and Russia looks at Armenia again?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="stalled-normalization">Stalled “Normalization”</h2>
<p>Also two weeks ago there was a meeting between Serdar Kiliç and Ruben Rubinyan, the two representatives discussing Turkish-Armenian so-called “Normalization” of relations. Turkey reiterated that no steps could be expected until Aliyev greenlights the process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We’ve known this all along, so what was the point, or the value of holding this meeting?</li>
<li>Is the West the key beneficiary of an open border, or let’s say “normalized” relations between Armenia and Turkey?</li>
<li>If there is some form of Normalization, what’s to be expected on issues such as the Armenian Genocide, and also in relations between Armenia and the DIaspora, because Turkey has done everything possible to help Pashinyan destroy those bonds.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Remember Armenian POWs in Baku and demand their release throughout the period of #COP29</li>
<li><strong>Yeghia</strong>: What if #COP29 presents an opportunity to bring back our POWs, would we do it? And: Reflections on the Beirut Blast, four years ago.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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#### Topics:
* Background on Amb. Melikian
* From Revolution to War
* Goris-Kapan Handover
* Armenia's "Pivot" To The West
* Srbazan Movement
* Pan-Armenian Diplomatic Council
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* From Revolution to War
* Goris-Kapan Handover
* Armenia's "Pivot" To The West
* Srbazan Movement
* Pan-Armenian Diplomatic Council
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* From Revolution to War
* Goris-Kapan Handover
* Armenia's "Pivot" To The West
* Srbazan Movement
* Pan-Armenian Diplomatic Council
Episode 352a | Recorded: August 12, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenian-foreign-policy-and-the-srbazan-movement">Armenian Foreign Policy and The Srbazan Movement</h1>
<p>Ambassador Melikian, as this is your first time on our show, please tell us about your background, interests, and research.</p>
<h2 id="from-revolution-to-war">From “Revolution” To War</h2>
<p>With so much history and experience behind you, Ambassador Melikian, we would like to hear about your experience in the Foreign Ministry during one of the most fateful times in recent Armenian history.</p>
<p>Specifically, on <strong>May 23, 2018</strong>, you were appointed as Secretary General at the Armenian Foreign ministry. That is two weeks after Pashinyan was elected as Prime Minister. You left your position at the MFA on <strong>July 19, 2021</strong>, shortly after the resignation of Ara Ayvazyan and 7 months after Pashinyan signed the disastrous Nov 9-10 statement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your experience at the MFA spans decades, however, can you tell us how it came to be that you moved from the Ministry of the Diaspora, where you were at that time, to the MFA? What were your feelings and hopes at the time?</li>
<li>What were your thoughts and emotions during the 44 day war and when Nikol Pashinyan signed the Nov. 9-10 statement?</li>
<li>And what made you stay in your position after Nov 10?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="goris-kapan-handover">Goris-Kapan Handover</h3>
<p>Now we’ll talk more about the demarcation and delimitation process, which is one big sham in my opinion. But I’d like to focus on one episode that happened immediately after the war. Despite the fact that the Nov 9-10 statement spelled out that forces stay where they are, Armenian forces simply pulled back tens of kilometers from Kovsakan (also known as Zangilan). Pashinyan later explained to the public that there were “verbal agreements”.</p>
<p>Why is this important? Because it eventually allowed the Azerbaijani armed forces to easily take over a segment of the Goris-Kapan strategic highway, when Pashinyan later argued that a few villages located on that route actually belong to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Recently, the Foreign Minister during the war, Ara Ayvazyan, revealed that there indeed was a separate secret document signed by the Defence Minister, Vagharshak Harutyunyan, which led to the giveaway of the strategic Goris-Kapan highway. In his <a href="https://asbarez.com/ex-foreign-minister-says-pashinyans-2020-handover-of-goris-kapan-road-to-azerbaijan-was-kept-secret/">interview</a> to Azatutyun, Ayvazyan says that the Foreign Ministry was kept out of this agreement for six months, during his tenure.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>You were at the MFA at the time. Can you confirm Ara Ayvazyan’s statements?</li>
<li>What was the basis for signing that separate agreement, which seems to be completely separate from the Nov 9/10 statement, and why was it kept secret from the Armenian people?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh-conflict-and-the-war">Artsakh Conflict and The War</h3>
<p>Let’s go a little deeper into the Artsakh conflict which culminated in the war. We want to understand what went wrong.</p>
<p>I believe it would be fair to say that there are two main narratives regarding the history of the negotiations and how we ended up where we did:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, some (like proponents of first president Levon Ter-Petrosyan) argue that Armenia should have taken the best deal it could have gotten, which was the 1997 “Step by Step” plan by the OSCE which Levon Ter-Petrosyan endorsed.
<ul>
<li>They argue that Armenia had no chance of countering Azerbaijan’s oil revenue and rapid re-arming.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The second narrative is that Armenia did the best it could and the Artsakh conflict was being more or less managed and only the policies of Pashinyan led to the outcome we had.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you give us your perspective on these two hypotheses, or narratives?</li>
</ul>
<p>Defenders of Pashinyan say that by the time he took power, the negotiations were already in a failed state and that there was little he could do.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you address this argument from Pashinyan?</li>
<li>Could the war have been prevented?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="turkeys-role-in-44-day-war">Turkey’s Role in 44 Day War</h3>
<p>Given Erdogan’s recent boasting - that they will enter Israel just like they did Artsakh -  let’s also talk about how important Turkey was to Azerbaijan’s victory.</p>
<p>There are many ways Turkey was involved:</p>
<ul>
<li>Both of our recent guests whom we asked (Arthur Martirosyan and Arman Grigoryan) were confident that Turkey was responsible for planning.</li>
<li>There were reports that their special forces participated.</li>
<li>There were reports that at least one part of the war was being managed and coordinated from an AWACS plane flying over Turkey.</li>
<li>Turkey actually had several generals stationed in Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Last but not least - I don’t have facts to back this up - Turkey as a NATO member has access to NATO intelligence and imagery, hundreds of satellites. Can someone say that Turkey didn’t take advantage of this technology and pass over the intelligence to Azerbaijan, given that there are some reports that in the first 15 minutes of the war, many of our critical military targets (such as air defense systems) were obliterated?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>In your assessment, how critical was Turkey’s role?</li>
<li>At which point during the history of the conflict did Turkey cross the point at which their participation would be all but a certainty?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pivot-to-the-west">“Pivot” To The West</h2>
<p>One of the main developments responsible for the tectonic shifts in the region was the growing conflict between Russia and the collective West. Today, with the disasters that happened in Georgia and Ukraine clear to all of us, the west is encouraging Pashinyan to reorient Armenia towards the West.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Does a Western orientation provide greater benefits than, for example, associating with the EAEU, Russia, etc? What is Pashinyan’s cost-benefit analysis that is leading him to reorient Armenia towards the West with such zeal?</li>
</ul>
<p>According to Pashinyan, 90% of the content of the so-called “peace treaty” has been agreed upon. In the US a few weeks ago, State Dept officials said that the sides must be ready for “tough compromises” to bring the deal to a close.</p>
<p><br>
<strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>We haven’t seen any compromise. Only one-sided concessions by Armenia. What are US officials thinking about when they continue to press for “tough compromises” from both sides?</li>
<li>Does the US have any leverage to bring Azerbaijan to make compromises?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h2>
<p>Amb. Melikian, the Srbazan movement that started in Tavush and moved to Yerevan generated a lot of social movement. We saw some of the largest crowds on the streets since 2018.</p>
<p>Initially the Srbazan gave various “deadlines” to Pashinyan. First it was 1 hour, then a week. But if success is to be measured by the initial goal, to unseat Pashinyan, then we can say the movement was not successful so far.</p>
<p>After the June 12 crackdown by the Armenian government, the protest movement seems to have taken a step back to re-group. We know that currently most of the government is on vacation. The parliament has adjourned. We see the Srbazan actively working, meeting different groups of people in the regions and Yerevan itself.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What‘s the reason the Srbazan movement has not achieved success yet?</li>
<li>What should we expect in September as the new “political season” opens?</li>
<li>Is it possible that the movement will transform into a political party and participate in the 2026 elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>Encouraged by Bagrat Srbazan, the “Pan-Armenian Diplomatic Council” was founded by you and other Armenian diplomats.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us the purpose of this council? What are some accomplishments or output that we can see today?</li>
</ul>
<p>On May 12, you announced a foreign policy <a href="https://abcmedia.am/khaghakhakanutyun/61000/">plan</a> that was endorsed by the Srbazan.</p>
<p>NOTE: Specific points of the policy are (Google Translate):</p>
<ul>
<li>RA&rsquo;s foreign policy goal is uninterrupted and comprehensive negotiations on stable and lasting peace, with the agenda of all priority issues, with the aim of excluding the possibility of war. The new government of RA, as a new negotiator, should make a sober assessment and get rid of verbal agreements reached behind the people&rsquo;s backs.</li>
<li>Being committed to all international and documented obligations and commitments and guided by the security priorities of RA, we will engage in constructive and mutually beneficial negotiations.</li>
<li>Implement a fundamental change in the foreign policy agenda, excluding anti-Russian, anti-Western, or any foreign policy content shaped by antis, adopting a flexible policy of containment.</li>
<li>To exclude sharp foreign political turns and positions in the conditions of rapid changes and uncertainty in the world order.</li>
<li>It is necessary to realize that international politics is a process where national interests are corrected, but never endangered.</li>
<li>The concept of national interests is not subject to artificial peace, nor to the inevitability of war, on the contrary, it implies a permanent settlement of conflicting interests with all the diplomatic tools, the absence of which exists today and everyone knows.</li>
<li>We must clarify our national interests, balance them in the conditions of new realities, without giving up our fundamental rights, without changing the sources of our identity, and without weakening the foundations of our statehood.</li>
<li>We must restore our strategic relations with allies as quickly as possible, as well as deepen our partnership and cooperation with other power centers.</li>
<li>Pan-Armenianism is a vital necessity to overcome the national crisis. Its new formulation, the only way to achieve it is to consider the consolidation of pan-Armenian potential, internal reconciliation and solidarity, in this case the irreplaceable leadership and active role of the Armenian Apostolic Holy Church, pan-Armenian structures and the legal authorities of the Republic of Artsakh is undeniable.</li>
<li>The Armenian people have a unique opportunity to achieve internal reconciliation, cohesion and unity, which will significantly contribute to the effective implementation of foreign policy</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the main differences with Pashinyan’s policy?</li>
<li>One of the key points you mention is to adopt a flexible policy that is not based on being anti-Russian or anti-US, essentially the policy of complementarity of previous governments. Is it possible to achieve complementarity in today’s geopolitical environment?</li>
</ul>
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Hovik Manucharyan
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Episode 351 | Recorded: August 6, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="us-leadership-changes">US Leadership Changes</h2>
<p>As the field of the major candidates for President of the United States (POTUS) solidifies, we’re now looking at a change of administration in January 2025, as Biden steps down and either Trump, or Kamala Harris steps up.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you talk about the effects of a Trump, or Harris presidency on Armenia and the Caucasus? What would be the key distinguishing policy differences?</li>
<li>Did Trump’s preoccupation with his reelection in 2020 provide Aliyev with an opportunity to attack Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-armenia-relations">Iran Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>On July 28th, the new Iranian president, Masoud Pezheshkian was inaugurated. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33056549.html">attended</a> the events in Tehran and also met with Ayatollah Khamenei, as well as Pezheshkian. Tehran reiterated its red lines regarding corridors through Armenia and encroachments on its territory by Azerbaijan  and Turkey.</p>
<p>The message to Pashinyan was that the change of presidents did not change Iran’s policy about the Caucasus, and they remain firmly opposed to any Azeri land corridors through Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>As much as this might sound like support to Pashinyan, is this a warning to Armenia, as well as to Azerbaijan and Turkey? In what way?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan “hearing” the message?
<ul>
<li>That he should not be making a deal with the West, that compromises its own territorial integrity.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russian-armenian-relations">Russian Armenian Relations</h2>
<p>Earlier this year in Moscow     Putin agreed with Pashinyan that on August 1, Russian customs &amp; border officers would hand over their duties at Zvartnots airport in Yerevan to Armenians. That was this past week, so now <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33058303.html">Armenia has taken over duties at the airport</a>. They even conducted a transfer ceremony and they are now out of Zvartnots.</p>
<p>Russia at the time <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32860300.html">warned</a> Armenia of “irreparable damage” to relations if Armenia continued on this path.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is control of customs and border at Zvartnots so important as to irreparably damage relations between Russia and Armenia, or is another step in the disengagement between the two countries? At what point is the Russian red line crossed?</li>
<li>For now the Russian servicemen have been redeployed to Armenia’s borders. Where do you see this process headed, is this a process of removing all of Russia’s military services out of Armenia?</li>
<li>Armenia’s economy is heavily dependent on Russia. Even the re-export economy is primarily destined for Russia. What “irreparable damage” can be expected from Russia?</li>
<li>What does the Russian withdrawal from the airport mean in the larger scheme of things? Is it a sacrifice that Russia can make easily?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-in-orbit">Armenia in Orbit</h3>
<p>US diplomats have <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33058356.html">very clearly expressed</a> that the US is pursuing a policy of breaking Armenia out of Russia’s orbit, by helping it reduce its economic and energy dependency on Russia.</p>
<p>Yet, around the same time, Armenia <a href="http://www.armbanks.am/en/2024/07/25/156165/">announced</a> a new loan of $200 million from the Eurasian Fund for Stabilization and Development, with an additional $190 million in co-financing from the Armenian government, for construction of a tunnel in Kajaran. The Eurasian Fund for Stabilization and Development is led by various EAEU countries, with Russia at its helm.</p>
<p>At the same time, Armenia’s trade with Russia, UAE and China has skyrocketed, and trade with the USA and Germany has dropped significantly.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>At a time when the US &amp; EU are outwardly pushing Armenia away from Russia, why aren’t they able to compete with the Russian-bankrolled EDB?</li>
<li>How do you explain this incongruence between Armenia’s own actions and words?</li>
<li>How can the West adjust its policy towards Armenia to make it less adversarial, and to the greater benefit of the people in the country?</li>
<li>Do Armenian oligarchs have any say in Armenian policy towards Russia, since the re-export revenues largely line their pockets?</li>
</ul>
<p>In <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/345">Episode 345</a> of our podcast, we discussed the results of a recent poll released in July. The poll revealed significant support (some would say an irrational amount of support) for Armenia joining the EU. This despite all we’ve said so far on Armenia’s economic reliance on Russia. An alternative is to leverage the country’s unique position as a bridge between East and West in order to drive its development and growth.</p>
<p>Or at least that’s how one narrative goes.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How serious is the Armenian government about joining the EU?
<ul>
<li>Surely Armenia’s EU partners, while they talk about helping Armenia “break” from Russia, are seeing all of the increased trade and reliance on Russia. How serious are both sides about Armenia’s EU prospects?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why are so many Armenians blindly rooting for the EU? What needs to be done in order to present this topic objectively by the media and analysts?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-push-for-an-agreement">EU Push for an Agreement</h2>
<p>With weeks left in his role as the EU Representative to South Caucasus, Toivo Klaar <a href="https://jam-news.net/toivo-klaar-on-the-south-caucasus-problems-and-conflicts/">appeared in the news</a> this week saying that Karabakh Armenians should be part of the normalization process between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Meanwhile, as we’ve talked before on this podcast, Azerbaijan is trying to transform the discussion into “all refugees are equal” and refugees from the first war should be allowed to return in parallel with Artsakhtsis. The concept of so-called “Western Azerbaijan” is being pushed officially by Baku.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the role of Toivo Klaar in this conflict over the number of years?</li>
<li>Who has leverage over Azerbaijan to compel them to agree to some international guarantees for Armenians?</li>
<li>Is it possible for Artsakhtsis to return in light of the current reality on the ground? And under what conditions can Armenians return?</li>
<li>How can Armenia avoid the trap of putting an equal sign between Artsakh refugees and refugees from the first war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h2>
<p>The Srbazan movement, which started in Tavush and moved to Yerevan, generated significant social activity, with the largest crowds since 2018. Initially, Srbazan gave Pashinyan deadlines to resign but hasn&rsquo;t succeeded. After the June 12 violent crackdown against peaceful protesters, the movement is regrouping while the government is on vacation and parliament adjourned. Srbazan continues to engage with various groups in the regions and Yerevan.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why hasn’t the movement succeeded so far? Are there any lessons learned advice you can give to the organizers? What is missing from the formula for success?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Join the online movement to point out Azerbaijan’s effort to greenwash its history of ethnic cleansing and abuse of human rights through the #COP29 conference in Baku in November.</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Remember, celebrate and promote Artsakh Independence day on September 2, especially in the Diaspora.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 350 | Recorded: August 1, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="state-of-the-armenian-economy-in-the-first-half-of-2024">State of the Armenian Economy in the First Half of 2024</h1>
<h2 id="economic-stats">Economic Stats</h2>
<p>A week ago the <a href="https://luys.am/">Luys Foundation</a> put out its <a href="https://www.luys.am/img/artpic/small/bcfdc54eed53b47732c504-%D5%8F%D4%B1%D5%91-1-6_2024.pdf">analysis</a> of the Armenian economy for H1 2024, that’s the first half of this year. So our discussion is about stats that are for January through June 2024.</p>
<p>They note that the Armenian economy is slowing down from the first quarter of the year to the second.</p>
<p>Similarly, they point out that the import and export sectors have also slowed down, and if we ignore the import and re-export of gold, an item which is turned into Jewelry in Armenia and re-exported, then there is an actual <strong>drop</strong> in the export and import sectors.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your observations on the condition of the economy, and how do you explain the current trends?</li>
<li>We hear a lot about the booming Armenian export sector. What’s the significance of the precious stones and metals and jewelry sector? Is this a large industry, with a significant labor force? Does it contribute to a large workforce and their well being, or is it mostly a monopoly benefiting a few?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="state-revenues">State Revenues</h2>
<p>The report says that although tax revenues are up 5.2% year over year since 2023, they are falling 9.1% short of projections. Meanwhile VAT and excise revenues were down 5.2 and 9.7%, depressing overall revenues.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Should we worry about the shortfall, or were the projected revenues too rosy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="government-spending">Government Spending</h3>
<p>Government spending is up 17.4%, but is also short of projections, mostly because less has been spent on the operational side, but overspent on the capital side. The report attributes capital spending increases to defense spending. (Frankly I’d love to know more, because I’ll believe it when I see it).</p>
<p>Meanwhile Armenia’s national debt just went over $12B, up almost 10% since last year. It’s right around 50% of GDP.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>With every projection off a little bit, it seems like things are happening to Armenia, rather than the other way around, with Armenia controlling its economic outlook. Plus, there’s a constant reliance on more debt. How worried should we be about this lack of control?</li>
<li>Is there a remedy to reliance on external debt?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="finance-sector">Finance Sector</h2>
<p>On the financial side, it looks like inflation is mostly under control in Armenia, despite a minor uptick in the last couple of months. Two days ago the Central Bank of Armenia (CBA) reduced the refi rate by another quarter; today it stands at 7.75%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the current state of monetary policy?
<ul>
<li>Was the reduction a response to the slowing economy?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The Dram rate has been reasonably stable, maybe a little strong, over the past year. What are the reasons for it, and how is it affecting the Armenian economy?</li>
<li>Consumer and mortgage loans are up almost 20% over 2023. What do you attribute this to, and is this a good thing?
<ul>
<li>Are peoples’ wages keeping up with their debts?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="looking-ahead">Looking ahead</h2>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>If people want to follow how the Armenian economy is doing and where it’s going, what resources are available to them?</li>
<li></li>
<li>What key economic leading indicators are available for Armenia?</li>
<li>What are they showing about where this economy is going towards the end of the year?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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* Turkish Involvement in the 44-Day War
Episode 349 | Recorded: July 31, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenias-geopolitical-pivot">Armenia’s Geopolitical Pivot</h1>
<p>A self-introduction of Prof. Arman Grigoryan, of Lehigh University.</p>
<h2 id="revolutionary-mistakes">Revolutionary Mistakes</h2>
<p>In April of this year you published an extensive research paper titled “<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09636412.2024.2327316">Revolutionary Governments, Recklessness, and War: The Case of the Second Karabakh War</a>”.</p>
<p>In the early stages of the paper you make the point that as he came to power in 2018, Pashinyan held the position that negotiations were a waste of time if the process was not culminating in a status for Artsakh, maybe in exchange for some of its surrounding territories. So his logic put both Aliyev and the OSCE MG in front of a dead-end situation which would lead the war.</p>
<p>You also make a strong case that Pashinyan was fully aware of the military disadvantage of Armenia, vis-à-vis Azerbaijan, who had outspent it in defense capability 5:1 for the previous decade.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Given the case that you make, how does one explain the disastrous path that Pashinyan put Armenia on?</li>
</ul>
<p>You propose two potential hypotheses to try and explain why the Armenian side behaved recklessly in leading to the defeats of 2020 and since.</p>
<ol>
<li>The first is about the intellectual and political ecology in Armenia;</li>
<li>The second has to do with the nature of revolutionary governments.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you discuss your points?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="revolutionary-or-evolutionary">Revolutionary? Or Evolutionary?</h3>
<p>For decades the argument has been made that Pashinyan is a disciple of first president Levon Ter-Petrosyan, and espoused his principles of mutual compromise.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you regard Pashinyan’s 2018 administration as a revolutionary new government, or an evolution of Ter-Petrosyan’s roadmap?</li>
<li>Do you think the protests of March 2008 were a precursor to 2018?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-role-of-strategic-myths">The Role of “Strategic Myths”</h3>
<p>In your paper, you argue that Armenians had developed a set of myths that led them to overestimate their own potential and underestimate the enemy’s potential. Furthermore, this mythology, you argue, created a strong environment that was against compromise.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was there ever a point in time in history that compromise was possible?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="nov-9-statement-corridors-communications">Nov. 9 Statement, Corridors, Communications</h2>
<p>When the war was paused on Nov 9 (and we say paused because in reality it was never stopped, in our opinion), Armenians learned that in addition to retreating from huge swaths of Artsakh territory, Armenia also agreed to give Azerbaijan “unimpeded” access to Azerbaijanis traveling to and from Nakhijevan. This is the infamous point #9 of the November 9/10 <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2020/11/10/Announcement/">statement</a>.</p>
<p>All other points have been violated. Not even all of our POWs have been returned.</p>
<p>Yet, Azerbaijan is adamant about demanding an extraterritorial corridor. And in your article you say that the Pashinyan regime decided to drag its feet on implementation of this statement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why did this corridor talk come up all of a sudden on November 9? And…</li>
<li>Why did the Pashinyan team decide to “drag its feet” on the so-called “corridor” given that Pashinyan had expressed <a href="https://armtimes.com/hy/article/105002">similar</a> ideas as far back as 2001?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="misguided-pivot">Misguided Pivot</h2>
<p>Your recent article titled <a href="https://nationalinterest.org/feature/armenia%E2%80%99s-misguided-%E2%80%9Cpivot-west%E2%80%9D-211914">Armenia’s Misguided “Pivot to the West”</a> was published in the National Interest. We will link to it in our show notes of course.</p>
<p>Summary of article (using ChatGPT):</p>
<ul>
<li>Traditionally, the West treated Armenia as a friendly country but with constraints on how close their relations could be due to Armenia&rsquo;s strategic value and security needs.</li>
<li>The West and Russia cooperated on issues like the Karabakh conflict, and there was no active effort to separate Armenia from Russia.</li>
<li>Attitudes shifted after the Ukraine conflict escalated, leading to high-profile visits from CIA Director, Nancy Pelosi, and British intelligence officials, indicating increased strategic interest in Armenia.</li>
<li>France and the U.S. have openly supported Armenia, with France providing advanced weaponry and the U.S. promoting Armenia&rsquo;s exclusion of Russia from regional projects.</li>
<li>This shift has put Armenia on a collision course with Russia, making it potentially defenseless against Turkey and Azerbaijan and risking severe economic consequences due to dependence on Russia.</li>
<li>The West&rsquo;s ability to protect Armenia from Russia is questionable, with limited support and parallels to the experiences of Georgia and Ukraine.</li>
<li>Armenia’s strategic partnership with the West signals future integration into Western institutions but lacks short-term protection from Russia.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="but-was-it-really-a-pivot">But Was It Really A Pivot?</h3>
<p>A pivot implies a recent and abrupt decision. Pashinyan had <a href="https://armtimes.com/hy/article/105002">ideas</a> about switching the geopolitical pole of Armenia as far back as the late 90s and early 2000s. Many of his team members are bona-fide proteges of George Soros.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Did Pashinyan’s political orientation flip at a certain point in time, or was his plan to pivot to the West all along?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="what-are-the-wests-plans">What Are The West’s Plans?</h3>
<p>In your 2020 <a href="https://direct.mit.edu/isec/article-abstract/44/4/158/12246/Selective-Wilsonianism-Material-Interests-and-the?redirectedFrom=fulltext&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawEWsL1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHeIYAxoJJ5rL6w83tEKEuqSIDUmvaK3mryO6mCy7KF4OrUajfg-WsJ8bEg_aem_57D5-ocGNF4yUjTGkgk-CA">article</a> you classify the west’s policies around the world as “Selective Wilsonianism”. You note that essentially the west is inciting Armenia to go against Russia without any short term protections. And unlike Ukraine, Armenia not only has one large enemy to deal with, but two, one on the west and the other on the east. Let’s not forget Russia as well, who would not leave the region voluntarily and would consider Armenia’s moves as inimical. Iran would also not be excited about a western ally on its border.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are Western planners thinking about as the big picture? How does Armenia fit in the plans of the west?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="turkish-involvement-in-the-war">Turkish Involvement In The War</h2>
<p>One of the reasons for the disastrous outcome of the war for Armenia was Turkey’s involvement. Several days ago, in fact, Erdogan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33055076.html">boasted</a> of that involvement, when he threatened Israel with the fate of Karabakh.</p>
<p>We know that Turkey had a significant role in the war in Artsakh. We know that their special forces participated. There were reports that at least one part of the war was being managed and coordinated from an AWACS plane flying over Turkey. Turkey actually had several generals stationed in Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>In fact, without Turkey’s 1000% support of Azerbaijan, it’s hard to imagine if Azerbaijan could have ever gone to war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Whose vision and instigation was the second war in Artsakh: Erdogan, or Aliyev? And…</li>
<li>In your assessment, how critical was the Turkish involvement in the 44-day war, for ensuring the defeat of Armenia?</li>
<li>Could anything have been done by the Pashinyan regime to prevent Turkey’s entry in the war?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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Episode 348 | Recorded: July 30, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="who-will-be-the-next-leader-in-the-us">Who will be the next leader in the US?</h2>
<p>As the field of the major candidates for President of the United States (POTUS) settles, we’re now looking at a change of administration in January 2025, as Biden steps down and either Trump, or Kamala Harris steps up.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see the presidential race shaping up in the US?</li>
<li>How will a potential Trump presidency affect US policy in the region and Armenia specifically?</li>
<li>What about a Harris presidency?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="us-policy-in-the-caucasus">US Policy in the Caucasus</h3>
<p>Biden’s administration has put a lot of effort and attention, at the secretary of state level, to get an agreement, any agreement, to be signed by Armenia and Azerbaijan. Talking to analysts, the immediate goal seems to be for any agreement to be signed that would get Aliyev to greenlight Turkey to open the border with Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is there a sense of urgency for signing some agreement, is the window of opportunity dwindling? Why?</li>
<li>Would Trump, or Harris, make a difference in how the US pursues its Caucasus policy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-turkish-talks">Armenian-Turkish Talks</h2>
<p>One day after Erdogan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33055076.html">boasted</a> to the world that they will enter Israel just like they did in Artsakh (Karabakh) and Libya, today, July 30th, another round of Turkish-Armenian negotiations was held by Ruben Rubinyan and his colleague Serdar Kilic. This after a 2 year break!</p>
<p>If you remember, Pashinyan-regime officials were presenting the situation as an accomplishment when they “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31925106.html">agreed in principle</a>” to open the border for citizens of third countries back in June 2022.</p>
<p>Armenian chief negotiator Ruben Rubinyan, followed up with <a href="https://iwpr.net/global-voices/armenia-turkey-border-set-reopen-after-three-decades">rosy predictions</a> that the border could be opened “as early as this summer”, referring to summer of 2022.</p>
<p>Yet, nothing happened other than more Azerbaijani encroachments and ethnic cleansing of Artsakh.</p>
<p>And after today’s meeting, as expected, another generic statement was issued, “reconfirming” previous agreements and “reemphasizing” to continue negotiations.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Before going into the topic in detail, a quick detour about negotiation tactics. Why did Ruben Rubinyan paint such a rosy picture in 2022?
<ul>
<li>Was he so out of touch with reality?</li>
<li>If not, is it a special negotiating tactic to announce the opening, knowing full well that nothing will happen without Azerbaijan’s OK? (I’m seriously curious about this)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why meet now when Turks have clearly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33055185.html">repeated</a> that Turkey won’t normalize relations before Armenia essentially capitulates to Aliyev’s conditions?
<ul>
<li>Now, when Azerbaijan’s hand against Turkey and Europe is stronger, what “bones” can Turkey throw Nikol’s way, if any, without a veto from Aliyev?</li>
<li>In the Azerbaijan-Turkey relationship today, as far as Armenia is concerned, is the tail (Azerbaijan) wagging the dog (Turkey)?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is this meeting today happening because of US pressure?
<ul>
<li>What are the main objectives that the US is pursuing in opening the Turkish-Armenian border?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="turkeys-role-in-the-44-day-war">Turkey’s Role in the 44-Day War</h3>
<p>Given Erdogan’s boasting, we wanted to take our listeners back to 2020. When the 44-day war started on the morning of September 27, 2020, it was initiated by the use of massive firepower around the entire line of contact. But more specifically, it was reported that within the first hours of the war, many important Armenian air defense targets were immediately taken out. Some analysts claim that this accurate knowledge of our air defense assets represents a significant intelligence accomplishment.</p>
<p>Facts:</p>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan has 2 satellites.</li>
<li>Turkey has 21 satellites.</li>
<li>But Turkey, as a NATO member, could also potentially have access to 300+ satellites of NATO partners.</li>
</ul>
<p>The reason I am reminding this is to set the stage for my next question.</p>
<p>We know that Turkey had a significant role in the war in Artsakh. We know that their special forces participated. There were reports that at least one part of the war was being managed and coordinated from an AWACS plane flying over Turkey.</p>
<p>Turkey actually had several generals stationed in Azerbaijan. But all of this didn’t stop officials in Baku from denying Turkish military involvement. In a statement on Monday, Monday, they <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1196630">said</a> that Turkey only provided “political support” to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In your assessment, how critical was the Turkish involvement in the 44-day war, for ensuring the defeat of Armenia?</li>
<li>Could anything have been done by the Pashinyan regime to prevent Turkey’s entry in the war?</li>
<li><del>Going back to Erdogan’s verbal fight with Israel, is there any chance that Turkey could militarily get involved in the Gaza war?</del></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="us---armenia-defense-cooperation">US - Armenia Defense Cooperation</h2>
<p>As the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33047848.html">Eagle Partner 2024</a> military exercises ended, there’s been a lot of government propaganda about upgraded defense ties between the US and Armenia, the intentions to raise them to a “strategic” level, and the US intent to station a military advisor in the Armenian ministry of defense.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the value realized by each side, from these exercises? Is Armenia better able to defend itself because of these exercises?
<ul>
<li>For one thing some analysts say that the drills are more about police-style crowd control, than military or national defense.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why does the US want to station a military advisor inside the Armenian MoD?</li>
</ul>
<p>After the exercises, Louis Bono <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33050832.html">stopped by</a> Yerevan to follow up on the Armenia-Azeri discussions in DC on July 10th. There were no reported agreements from that event, except the US made clear that they expect “tough compromises” from both sides to strike up an agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What “tough compromises” are being expected from both Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---azerbaijan-talks">Armenia - Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<h3 id="aliyev-again-threatens-armenia-with-war">Aliyev Again Threatens Armenia With War</h3>
<p>Compounded by the $10 million that the EU allocated for Armenia from the European Peace Facility, the US-Armenian exercises provided an opportunity for Aliyev to again threaten Armenia with war. Azerbaijan perceives the pitiful crowd-control joint exercises between the US and Armenia, as well as the EUR 10M field hospital provided by the EU as a threat and saying it will act in “self defense”.</p>
<p>Azerbaijani diplomats say this with a straight face while talking about Armenia’s $10M field hospital while their army is being armed with billions of dollars worth of the most lethal weaponry.</p>
<p>The threats continued until Monday, when Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azernews.az/nation/229237.html">accused</a> Armenia of flying a quadcopter over its positions in Tovuz. This was immediately <a href="https://x.com/ArmeniaMODTeam/status/1817815129947332861">denied</a> by Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you make of Azerbaijan’s renewed threats of war?</li>
<li>What do you make of Russia’s continued stern warnings, cautioning Armenia from following the “Ukraine scenario”.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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Episode 347 | Recorded: July 22, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="elections-in-the-us-and-georgia">Elections in the US and Georgia</h2>
<p>2024 is a pivotal year of elections worldwide and in our region that might have a drastic effect on the future of Armenia. So we’d like to spend some time discussing these developments.</p>
<h3 id="united-states">United States</h3>
<p>One of the most globally important political races this year is the presidential race in the US. The prospect of a Trump presidency has always been a real possibility, and after the assassination attempt on him on July 13, his ratings appear to be on the rise. Also, last week he became the official Republican nominee during the Republican National Convention (RNC), and Joe Biden ended his campaign to seek re-election and passed the torch to his VP Kamala Harris.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How will a potential Trump presidency affect US policy in the region and Armenia specifically?</li>
<li>How would you assess JD Vance’s announcement as VP candidate?</li>
<li>Why did Armenia’s dingbat in DC - err ambassador, - Makunts, attend the RNC?
<ul>
<li>Is it appropriate, or wise, or whatever…</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="georgia">Georgia</h3>
<p>Georgia is holding parliamentary elections in October 2024. We know that there is a big rift between the current Georgian Dream ruling party and the west to the point where Georgia’s EU candidacy has been paused and a number of sanctions have been imposed against the ruling party leadership after the recent law “On Transparency of Foreign Influence”, among other anti-liberal legislative changes introduced in the country.</p>
<p>Therefore the upcoming parliamentary elections in October are seen as pivotal in determining the future direction of Georgia, whether the country will reject the conservative policies of Georgian Dream and punish the party in the polls or whether the voters will approve of the GD policies and therefore put Georgia’s EU relations on ice for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>Some analysts see the upcoming polls in Georgia as pivotal also for Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How important are the elections in Georgia for Armenia?</li>
<li>The West frequently accuses Georgia of serving Russian interests. Is Turkey a player in Georgian politics?</li>
<li>Do you have any predictions? What are the main scenarios that could unfold?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-parliamentary-elections-on-september-1">Azerbaijan Parliamentary Elections on September 1</h3>
<p>Aliyev announced recently that Azerbaijan will hold parliamentary elections on September 1.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the purpose and reason for these elections?</li>
<li>Could these elections be related to COP29 in Baku in October?
<ul>
<li>And the rumored war on Armenia following COP29?</li>
<li>Today Azerbaijan invited Armenia to attend COP29.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<p>At every negotiation opportunity, we see that Aliyev continues to thumb his nose at The West. Since Thursday, the Armenian and Azerbaijani foreign ministries <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/armenia-azerbaijan-accuse-each-other-rejecting-meeting-uk-summit-2024-07-18/">started blaming each other</a> for the failed meeting between Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan that was supposed to take place on the sidelines of the European Political Community summit at the Blenheim Palace in Oxfordshire, UK.</p>
<p>First, the Azerbaijani side blamed Pashinyan. About an hour later, the Armenian Foreign Ministry made a <a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2024/07/18/spox_comment/12748">statement</a> saying that it was Azerbaijan who had rejected the meeting.</p>
<p>This breakdown seems to be counter to the previous optimistic picture in the negotiations painted by US state department officials last week who described the sides as being very close to some type of agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who was responsible for the failure of the meeting, and what was the reason for it?</li>
<li>Where does this put the current state of Armenian Azerbaijani talks?
<ul>
<li>Whatever happened to the demarcation and delimitation?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="europe">Europe</h3>
<p>Both Scholz and Macron were at this summit. And despite the efforts of European diplomacy to achieve a PR win and to ensure a meeting happens, it fell through.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Does Aliyev holds all the trump cards against the EU as a mediator, when it comes to Armenia-Azerbaijan affairs?</li>
<li>Which EU power has the ability to compel Aliyev to come to the negotiating table, or do anything?</li>
<li>The EU clearly expects to remain engaged because as Toivo Klaar just retired, Magdalena Grono was assigned to the Caucasus. Who is she?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan has shown that:</p>
<ul>
<li>It can conduct ethnic cleansing of Armenians, without consequences</li>
<li>It can ignore 2 rulings of the international courts, without consequences</li>
<li>It can break its political promises to EU regarding negotiations, without consequences</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="united-states-1">United States</h3>
<p>At the NATO summit last week in Washington DC, representatives from the US State Department said that both sides must be ready to make “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33038531.html">tough</a>” compromises, and that the US would “push” the sides to achieve peace.</p>
<p>Despite the talk of compromises, so far we only see single-sided concessions by Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are these “tough” compromises envisioned or expected by the state department?</li>
<li>What leverage does the US have against Azerbaijan to compel them to negotiate in good faith with Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="33-format">3+3 Format</h3>
<p>If the US and the EU are failing as mediators, is it possible that some kind of a regional format may compel Azerbaijan to negotiate in good faith?</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Russia</strong>: If the active war in Ukraine ends, then Russia may have more interest to be involved with Azerbaijan, or in the Caucasus.</li>
<li><strong>Iran</strong>: We know that the only reason Armenia still has Syunik is due to Iran.</li>
</ul>
<p>This week, Iran’s ambassador to Armenia <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2024/07/19/Iranian-envoy/3031042">said</a> that the next meeting of the 3+3 format will be held in Turkey, soon.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenians are very skeptical of any organization that has Turkey in it. However, is it possible that the key to preventing Aliyev from attacking Armenia lies in regional players such as Iran, Russia and even Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="permanent-us-defense-advisor-for-armenia">Permanent US Defense Advisor for Armenia</h2>
<p>Last week deputy US under-secretary of state Uzra Zeya was in Armenia and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33041893.html">announced</a> that the US will station a permanent advisor in the Armenian defense ministry, to elevate the US-Armenian relationship to a strategic level.</p>
<p>Needless to say Russia doesn’t approve of this, the same as they didn’t like the US-Armenian “Eagle Partner 2024” exercises in Armenia. Russia has in the past <a href="https://tass.com/politics/1777073">requested</a> clarification from Armenia as to what these military and defense accords really mean, and Armenia just responds that they are not aimed at any third countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the significance of this permanent posting, and what does a “strategic partnership” mean for Armenia and the US, especially in light of Armenia’s perhaps titular-only membership in the CSTO and alliance with Russia?
<ul>
<li>Is there a precedent for this outside of georgia/ukraine. For instance does Russia have an &ldquo;advisor&rdquo; in the Armenian MOD?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>In 2018, the US <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/armypolice/30197">appointed</a> a defense attache to its Armenian embassy. But what is the role of an “advisor”? What is different here?</li>
<li>Russia as we noted has said that these accords can mean geopolitical troubles for Armenia. What consequences could they be foreseeing, or calculating?</li>
<li>Do you think that Russia’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33043294.html">rejection</a> this past week of Armenian agricultural exports, attributed to “excessive pesticide content”, is actually a political warning?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mid-year-review-of-our-2024-predictions">Mid-year Review of our 2024 Predictions</h2>
<p>As our listeners know for the past couple of years we’ve made end-of-year predictions for the upcoming year. You can refer to our show and <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/300">show notes</a> for <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMxual3xX1U">Episode 300</a> of December 31, 2023, for our 2024 predictions.</p>
<p>So we thought we’d do a quick mid-year review today.</p>
<p><strong>Questions to each participant:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see your predictions coming along?</li>
<li>Given where we are, how would you adjust them, if anything?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Benyamin</strong> modifies his high probability assumption to medium probability.</p>
<ul>
<li>Medium: Some sort of Armenia-Azerbaijan agreement will be signed, but threats on Armenia will continue.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Hovik</strong> also modifies his high probability to medium probability.</p>
<ul>
<li>Medium: Some meaningless Armenia-Azerbaijan “treaty” will be signed.</li>
<li>Also modifies that the Enclaves may not be “captured” by Azerbaijan, since Pashinyan seems to willingly give them away.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Asbed</strong> modifies his medium probability prediction from 50-50 to 75-25.</p>
<ul>
<li>Medium: Trump has a 75% chance of being elected US president again.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: When it comes to promises like “EU membership”, “Visa liberalization”, etc. Let’s be more sober and less emotional in our expectations.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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<p>We plan to ask this question to many of our guests, so we ask you as well. Ever since the assassination attempt on July 13, the prospect of a Trump presidency is now higher.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How will a Trump presidency affect the US policy towards the Caucasus?</li>
<li>Do you have any predictions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="update-on-political-prisoners">Update on Political Prisoners</h2>
<p>We last talked to you over a year and a half ago, during the early days of the Artsakh blockade. A lot of Armenians, especially Diaspora Armenians think of Armenia as a free, open, hospitable country, and it’s not natural for us to think that there are political prisoners in Armenia. People who are in jail simply because they don’t see eye to eye with this current government. Dozens of them.</p>
<p>In the past week there have been updates about some of them.</p>
<h3 id="mamikon-aslanyan">Mamikon Aslanyan</h3>
<p>On Monday, Mamikon Aslanyan, an opposition member who won his re-election bid as Mayor of Vanadzor in the 2021 elections, was released from jail after 2.5 years. He was one of a half dozen opposition election winners who were harrassed and jailed pretty much for winning elections as non Civil Contract party members.</p>
<p>We’re not sure if this is a permanent or temporary release, but for the moment he’s out.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is he released now, after 2 years and 7 months?</li>
<li>Why haven’t these cases come under closer scrutiny from the European Union? Why hasn’t the PACE paid more attention to this anti-democratic posture of the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armen-ashotyan">Armen Ashotyan</h3>
<p>Armen Ashotyan is a leader of the RPA, the Republican Party of Armenia. He’s in that devil’s crack in Armenian law called “pre-trial detention”, which can be dragged on indefinitely. The trial keeps being postponed and Ashotyan lingers on in jail, without bail and without light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are his conditions?</li>
<li>How frequently is he allowed visitation with family?</li>
<li>Are visitation rights with others limited?</li>
<li>Ashotyan was an MP. Why is his case not in front of the parliament every day, and also in the EU parliament and PACE as well?</li>
<li>And finally, why are western diplomats in Armenia, - in fact, ALL diplomats - silent on the issues of all these political prisoners in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>Are the reasons geopolitical? Are they protecting a government that is looking after their national interests, instead of Armenia’s?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pace-report">PACE Report</h2>
<p>Hayk, on June 26, you were in Strasbourg as part of your work in the PACE, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. On that day, the PACE voted unanimously to pass a resolution commending Armenia for its progress with its so-called “democratic commitments”.</p>
<p>We’ll put the link to your speech at the PACE in our show notes.</p>
<p>Hayk’s speech: <a href="https://pace.coe.int/en/verbatim/2024-06-26/pm/en#speech-28928">https://pace.coe.int/en/verbatim/2024-06-26/pm/en#speech-28928</a></p>
<p>We covered the <a href="https://pace.coe.int/pdf/f3e571f3281112b82c0b03440a1c991ce1ce21c624ee175091b291be8b1fb287">PACE report</a> in our “Spotlight on Silence” series, with Rafael Ishkhanyan (Episode 343).</p>
<p>We noted that the report included individual instances of shortcomings but sugar-coated everything heavily, saying that Armenia did a good job despite the challenges it is facing.</p>
<p>They even went as far as to mention that elections are no longer being falsified and that as opposed to the protests of the past, when the bad evil “Nakhkins” were running the country, people are no longer dying during protests “as they did on March 1, 2008”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your response to this assessment…</li>
<li>Did you have a chance to review the report before it was submitted to the PACE session?</li>
<li>In your <a href="https://pace.coe.int/en/verbatim/2024-06-26/pm/en#speech-28928">speech</a> during the deliberations on the resolution, you say that Pashinyan is being given a ”carte blanche for brutality and judicial anarchy”&hellip; Why is the EU and the West giving Pashinyan this carte blanche, in your opinion?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="referendum-on-joining-eu">Referendum on joining EU</h2>
<p>Also in late June, a group of extra-parliamentary political parties held a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uw1qRiDJSc">hearing</a> in a subcommittee of the Armenian National Assembly, pressing on the Civil Contract-led government to hold a referendum on joining the EU.</p>
<p>A week later, Alen Simonyan, on his trip to Latvia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33012322.html">gave more credence</a> to this possibility, but later his spokesperson had to backtrack and said that Simonyan was expressing his own political opinion. Later, Pashinyan also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33017231.html">poured cold water</a> on this idea, effectively saying that “the EU may not be ready to admit Armenia”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the deal with the Civil Contract flip-flop on this EU direction?</li>
<li>Do you think this referendum will happen?
<ul>
<li>If not, why is this topic apparently being stoked by the ruling regime?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="internal-politics">Internal Politics</h2>
<h3 id="is-somebody-going-to-match-his-nasty">Is Somebody Going To Match His Nasty?</h3>
<p>Look, we hear that Azerbaijan is preparing for war in November, after the COP29. The author of that statement is not some low-ranking opposition member. It can be found in an <a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/interviews-articles-and-comments/2024/06/19/mfa_statement/12700">official statement</a> of the Armenian Foreign Ministry.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, in a country that is months away from war - again that is according to the MFA - Pashinyan is <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/society/55277/">taking</a> a month-long vacation.</p>
<p>He’s not only taking a really long vacation, but he’s doing so overseas. He is posting <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nikol.pashinyan_pm/video/7392498057327234311">videos of him riding a bike in Berlin</a>, apparently with no care in the world. He attended a football match in Germany and posted <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nikol.pashinyan_pm/video/7391575420442905863">a video of his face</a> while watching the game, with his wife in the background, and the “Nasty” song. <br>
<br>
MPG reported that according to their latest survey results, Pashinyan’s <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/345">approval rating</a> has risen to 35%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan has been in the media business his entire life. He knows how to manipulate public opinion. What is his messaging with these videos?</li>
<li>Can we say that this is basically Pashinyan’s victory dance over the unconscious opposition and that the Armenian opposition has failed miserably to unseat Pashinyan?</li>
<li>Has there been an honest accounting of the failures of the opposition so far? What are the failures? Why is success so elusive, given the outright catastrophe unfolding in front of us?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h3>
<p>Meanwhile the Bagrat Srbazan’s movement is regrouping or reorganizing… the MPG poll showed that there’s been a big drop in its popularity: over 20%. Our guest on the previous show said the poll shows that Pashinyan has won this round, and so people prefer to back a winner, so that’s where we stand.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of Srbazan’s Tavush Movement, where do you see this going?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes.
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        Week in Review - July 14, 2024
        
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* Parade of US Officials in Armenia
* MPG Poll
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Episode 345 | Recorded: July 16, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="prospect-of-trump-presidency-and-effect-on-the-region">Prospect of Trump Presidency and Effect On The Region</h2>
<p>The entire world is talking about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump that occurred on July 13, 2024 in Butler, Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>There are many questions to ask about this incident, including the apparent failure of the US secret service to adequately protect the former president and current Republican presidential candidate. But for many of those in the region, the question is about what happens next, especially since it seems that the prospect of a Trump presidency is now much higher.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How will a Trump presidency affect the US policy in the region? Do you have any predictions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mirzoyan-at-nato-summit-in-dc">Mirzoyan at NATO Summit in DC</h2>
<p>Mirzoyan and Bayramov were invited to attend the NATO Summit in Washington DC over the weekend of July 8th. It is clear that the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33029885.html">US has been putting a lot of attention</a>, if not outright pressure, on Armenia and Azerbaijan to sign an agreement. Any agreement!</p>
<p>Despite Blinken proclaiming that the sides are <a href="https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-at-the-bilateral-peace-negotiation-closing-session-with-armenian-foreign-minister-ararat-mirzoyan-and-azerbaijani-foreign-minister-jeyhun-bayramov/">close</a> to signing an “historic” agreement, Aliyev has effectively stopped the process with his demand that Armenia change its constitution.</p>
<p>And while Azerbaijan says that this is the main sticking point in the negotiations, it is clear that he’s saying that this is only THE CURRENT sticking point. They’ve explicitly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33034189.html">said</a> changing the Armenian constitution doesn’t mean they will sign anything.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were there any outcomes from Mirzoyan’s trip to Washington DC?</li>
<li>What’s the current state of the talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Is there a sense of urgency on the part of the US to get an agreement signed?</li>
<li>What pressure can the US apply on Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="erdogans-final-sticking-point">Erdogan’s “Final” Sticking Point</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, Erodgan continues to say that there won’t be peace until Armenia essentially gives up Syunik. Turkey and Azerbaijan want an extraterritorial corridor to connect through Armenia. He frequently reminds Pashinyan of this, like for example this week when Turkey simply <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33034048.html">blocked cargo air traffic</a> to Armenia with no warning or reason.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What else can we expect on the road to the final step?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russias-reaction">Russia’s Reaction</h3>
<p>Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia, Galuzin, said: “by deepening cooperation at such a pace with those whose goal is the &ldquo;strategic defeat&rdquo; of Russia, Yerevan risks seriously destabilizing the situation in the South Caucasus to the detriment, including its own security.”</p>
<p>Despite how this downhill spiral in relations between Armenia and Russia started, we are where we are, which is a strategic ally, for whatever reasons, was not able or willing to stop the ethnic cleansing in Artsakh and the continuing pressure on Armenia by its enemies.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does Russia expect when it has made concessions to Turkey and Azerbaijan to the detriment of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="parade-of-us-officials-through-armenia">Parade of US Officials through Armenia</h2>
<p>Over the course of this summer there’s been a flood of US politicians running through Armenia. Last week it was Samantha Power, director of USAID, baking Jingalov Hats with Artsakh refugees in Armenia, and promising <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1195441">$2.4 million</a> towards protecting Armenian citizens’ private data, and <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1195422">$5 million</a> to expand use of AWS in Armenia.</p>
<p>Currently deputy secretary of state <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1195753">Uzra Zeya is in Yerevan</a>, meeting with “civil society leaders”, visiting Tsitsernakabert, and other places.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Ambassador <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1195591">Kvien was in Syunik</a>, celebrating the US day of independence in Kapan. She appears to enjoy Syunik as much as Lynn Tracy, her predecessor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we special, or is the US spending just as much time around Georgia and Azerbaijan as well?</li>
<li>What was the deal with Samantha Power’s visit last week? Why is USAID interested in the protection of Armenian citizens’ private data?</li>
<li>Power <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33029950.html">said</a> that the US is investigating the “exodus” of Armenians from Artsakh to determine whether it was “ethnic cleansing”. What’s the end goal of this investigation, and what outcomes could be expected from it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="new-mpg-poll">New MPG Poll</h2>
<p>Last week, MPG released the latest poll results. The results indicate several changes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan rating increased slightly</li>
<li>Armenians apparently are yearning for the EU</li>
<li>And more…</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-3-is-armenia-moving-in-the-right-direction">Slide 3: Is Armenia Moving in the Right Direction?</h3>
<ul>
<li>Հայաստանն ընդհանուր առմամբ շարժվում է ճի՞շտ, թե՞ սխալ ուղղությամբ (Slide 3)
<ul>
<li>Is Armenia generally moving in the right or wrong direction?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-3.webp" alt="alt_text"  title="image_tooltip" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 3: Is Armenia generally moving in the right or wrong direction?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How has this changed from previous polls?
<ul>
<li>How do you explain all of the above dynamics in the most recent poll?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-5-armenian-policy-on-artsakh">Slide 5: Armenian Policy on Artsakh</h3>
<ul>
<li>Ի՞նչ քաղաքականություն պետք է վարի Հայաստանն Արցախյան հարցում (Slide 5)
<ul>
<li>What policy should Armenia pursue in the Artsakh issue?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-5.webp" alt="Armenia policy on Artsakh"  title="Armenia policy on Artsakh" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 5: What policy should Armenia pursue in the Artsakh issue?</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do these results compare with previous iterations of this question?
<ul>
<li>Nearly 10.2% of people say that we should forget about Artsakh?</li>
<li>And 21.5% say that we should essentially restore control over Artsakh (we’re assuming militarily).</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-12-appetite-for-constitutional-changes">Slide 12: Appetite For Constitutional Changes</h3>
<p>Let’s look at the next question, which asks whether people support changing Armenia’s constitution, as Ilham Aliyev demands.</p>
<p>Nearly 80% of people responded “No”, the constitution should remain unchanged. Compared with another version of this poll in January, this is a huge difference. At that time only 38% of people were categorically against a new constitution, but at that time the poll didn’t mention that this was being demanded by Aliyev.</p>
<ul>
<li>On July 1, President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev stated that the most important condition for concluding a peace treaty with Armenia is the amendment of the Constitution of Armenia. What do you think, should the current constitution of the Republic of Armenia be amended? January: On January 19, Nikol Pashinyan announced that Armenia needs a new Constitution. Do you think it is necessary to make changes or adopt a completely new constitution for RA? (Slide 12)
<ul>
<li>Հուլիսի 1-ին Ադրբեջանի նախագահ Իլհամ Ալիեւը նշել է, որ Հայաստանի հետ խաղաղության պայմանագրի կնքման կարեւորագույն պայմանը Հայաստանի Սահմանադրության փոփոխությունն է: Ի՞նչ եք կարծում, արդյոք Հայաստանի Հանրապետության գործող սահմանադրությունը պետք է փոփոխության ենթարկվի: Հունվար: Հունվարի 19 ին Նիկոլ Փաշինյանը հայտարարեց որ Հայաստանը կարիք ունի նոր Սահմանադրության: Ըստ Ձեզ արդյոք անհրաժեշտ է փոփոխություններ կատարել կամ լիովին նոր սահմանադրություն ընդունել ՀՀ համար</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-12.webp" alt="New Constitution?"  title="New Constitution?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 12:  is it necessary to make changes or adopt a completely new constitution for RA?</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you assess the responses and the difference between now and January?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slides-4-6-and-7-nato-eu-eaeu">Slides 4, 6, and 7: NATO, EU, EAEU</h3>
<p>The poll also touched on the sentiment of the respondents to being in international organizations, both security and economic. For instance, the poll asked respondents about leaving the CSTO as well as joining the EU.</p>
<h4 id="should-armenia-continue-to-join-the-csto-or-should-it-seek-to-join-nato">Should Armenia continue to join the CSTO or should it seek to join NATO?</h4>
<ul>
<li>Ձեր կարծիքով Հայաստանը պետք է շարունակի անդամակցել ՀԱՊԿ-ին, թե՞ պետք է ձգտի միանա ՆԱՏՕ-ին (Slide 4)
<ul>
<li>In your opinion, should Armenia continue to join the CSTO or should it seek to join NATO?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-4.webp" alt="CSTO? NATO?"  title="CSTO? NATO?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 4: Should Armenia continue to join the CSTO or should it seek to join NATO?</p>
<ul>
<li>About 29% say they want to join NATO (rise of 6.5% since February)</li>
<li>Meanwhile, only about 17% say they should remain in CSTO, an 11% fall since February.</li>
<li>Meanwhile about 44% say that Armenia should be neutral, an increase of 4%.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What exactly has caused this dramatic shift downwards toward the CSTO.</li>
<li>How much of it can be attributed to the Pashinyan regime’s active propaganda against Russia, and the CSTO?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="should-ra-join-the-eu">Should RA join the EU?</h4>
<ul>
<li>Ըստ Ձեզ արդյո՞ք ՀՀ-ն պետք է անդամակցի ԵՄ-ին (Slide 6)
<ul>
<li>According to you, should RA join the EU?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-6.webp" alt="Join EU?"  title="Join EU?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 6: Should RA join the EU?</p>
<h4 id="should-ra-leave-the-eaeu-to-join-the-eu">Should RA Leave the EAEU to join the EU?</h4>
<ul>
<li>Եվրոպական միությանը անդամակցելու առաջին նախապայմանը Եվրասիական Տնտեսական Միության ԵԱՏՄ անդամակցությունից Հայաստանի Հանրապետության դուրս գալն է: Ըստ Ձեզ Հայաստանը պե՞տք է դուրս գա Եվրասիական Տնտեսական Միությունից եւ սկսի Եվրոպական միությանը անդամակցելու գործընթացը (Slide 7)
<ul>
<li>The first precondition for joining the European Union is the withdrawal of the Republic of Armenia from the EAEU membership of the Eurasian Economic Union. In your opinion, should Armenia leave the Eurasian Economic Union and start the process of joining the European Union?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-7.webp" alt="Leave EAEU for EU?"  title="Leave EAEU for EU?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 7: Should Armenia leave the EAEU and start the process of joining the EU?</p>
<h3 id="slide-8-assessing-the-srbazantavush-movement">Slide: 8: Assessing the Srbazan/Tavush movement</h3>
<ul>
<li>Ինչպե՞ս եք գնահատում Տավուշի թեմի առաջնորդ Բագրատ արքեպիսկոպոս Գալստանյանի նախաձեռնած “Տավուշը հանուն հայրենիքի” շարժումը (Slide 8)
<ul>
<li>How do you evaluate the &ldquo;Tavush for the Motherland&rdquo; movement initiated by the leader of the Diocese of Tavush, Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-8.webp" alt="Assessing Srbazan Movement"  title="Assessing Srbazan Movement" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 8: How do you evaluate the &ldquo;Tavush for the Motherland&rdquo; movement?</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you assess the drop in popularity of the movement?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-10-evaluate-the-work-of-ra-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan">Slide 10: Evaluate the work of RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan</h3>
<ul>
<li>Գնահատեք ՀՀ վարչապետ Նիկոլ Փաշինյանի աշխատանքը (Slide 10)
<ul>
<li>Evaluate the work of RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/345/mpg-poll/mpg-slide-10.webp" alt="Assessing Pashinyan"  title="Assessing Pashinyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Slide 10: Evaluate the work of RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan</p>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: The farce that is the Armenian judicial system in the hands of Andreasyan and the Supreme Judicial Council</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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Episode 344 | Recorded: July 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="is-armenia-becoming-a-surveillance-state">Is Armenia Becoming a Surveillance State</h1>
<h2 id="draft-law-on-ubiquitous-surveillance">Draft Law on Ubiquitous Surveillance</h2>
<p>Last month a very onerous <a href="http://parliament.am/drafts.php?sel=showdraft&amp;DraftID=14934&amp;Reading=0">surveillance law</a> was proposed by Pashinyan’s government, which flew under most radars except the few in the business of security, privacy and and civil rights protections.</p>
<p>Essentially the law would require all but the smallest of businesses to install hi-res cameras to watch over and around the entrance and exits of their premises, and what’s more: to continuously share the video and audio streams with the government.</p>
<p>Pretty much all businesses that occupy over 50 m<!-- raw HTML omitted -->2<!-- raw HTML omitted --> of space would be affected.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur: Can you give a brief overview of this law for our listeners?</li>
<li>Who is going to pay for all of this surveillance equipment, its installation and maintenance?
<ul>
<li>Note: this is essentially a tax (or fee) on businesses. An unfunded mandate.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Crime and drug trafficking in Armenia has been <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32983511.html">on the rise</a> since 2018, when Pashinyan took over. So his government is fully on board with this law, pretending that this will solve their problems.</p>
<p>The Interior, Defense, and Justice ministries have signed up despite the fact that the Justice ministry’s own Data Protection Agency raised red flags about the proposed law.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the current status of this proposed law?</li>
<li>What are the privacy concerns with this law, and how have privacy experts reacted to it?</li>
<li>Has the government submitted this law to international organizations for a review, and comparison with other similar laws?</li>
<li>Are there examples of other countries where this type of law exists?</li>
<li>Will businesses even be notified if their data is accessed? Or is there a subpoena process for accessing the data?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trust-and-verify">Trust and Verify</h3>
<p>One of the key concerns to address is <strong>trust</strong> in a centralized surveillance system. Who will be reviewing the data feeds, what policies govern the data protection, handling and retention aspects, and how will it be possible to verify the trust that people must put in the government, ANY government. The Armenian government’s <a href="https://csometer.info/updates/armenia-draft-law-access-information-criticised-csos">track record for information access is not good</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are there any regulations in Armenia governing the handling of this type of data?
<ul>
<li>Are the regulations robust?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-us-funded-deal-with-aws">Armenia’s US-funded Deal with AWS</h2>
<p>As if our concern about Armenia increasing its surveillance of its citizens, we were reminded this week about a new concern. During her visit to Armenia this week, Samantha Power, director of the USAID, <a href="https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/speeches/jul-10-2024-administrator-samantha-powers-remarks-government-armenia-and-amazon-web-services-collaboration">announced</a> a US-funded deal for the Armenian government to use Amazon Web Services (AWS) as part of its “digital transformation” efforts.</p>
<p>The announcement sounded more like a press release drafted by a cloud provider than the US government but specifically said that Armenia needs systems <strong><em>“that can withstand cyber attacks, systems that are governed by clear regulatory frameworks that protect human rights and privacy for citizens”.</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do we know any more details about how the Armenian government plans to use this money?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="data-sovereignty">Data Sovereignty</h3>
<p>One of the main aspects of this deal is that Armenia would lose sovereignty over any of the data it stores in AWS, because AWS does not have data centers in Armenia.</p>
<p>There are numerous compliance laws that countries have put forth to govern how cloud providers should store and process their data. These are normally called “Regions” by cloud providers and you as a customer can instruct the cloud provider to store your data in only a specific region. GDPR is a popular EU-wide regulation that, for instance, stipulates that data of EU persons should be stored only in EU regions or in regions that have safe harbor agreements with the EU.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do we know what type of data the Armenian government intends to store in the cloud?</li>
<li>Even if not a privacy issue, is there a data sovereignty issue?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="cyber-security-failures">Cyber Security Failures</h2>
<p>During the 44-day war the government was <a href="https://telecom.arka.am/en/news/telecom/azerbaijani_hackers_get_access_to_video_cameras_in_armenian_homes_stores_and_other_places/">hacked</a> by Azerbaijan, and they still don’t know the full extent of the intrusion. We haven’t seen any follow-through or audit on this either. Among other resources, Armenia’s network of street cameras were <a href="https://jam-news.net/surveillance-cameras-in-armenia/">hacked</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the current state of our national cybersecurity posture?
<ul>
<li>Is it any better than it was in 2020?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Has there been any investigative analysis of the 2020 cyber attacks, with mitigation recommendations?</li>
<li>What ongoing process will people have to ensure that this onerous surveillance system does not fall into enemy hands?
<ul>
<li>And that is, if one can consider the government as a non-enemy.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<h2 id="report-on-police-brutality-on-june-12-rally">Report on Police Brutality on June 12 Rally</h2>
<p>So the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vLjYN1c2lAHeCh1f3Nr1-ruFg3n06TwT/view">ACPR Ad Hoc report on June 12</a> is out. On that day, the Pashinyan regime clearly showed that they’re ready and willing to use disproportionate force to suppress protesters. Up to a hundred people sought medical attention after the police lobbed dozens of stun grenades at the protesters, many of them were severely injured.</p>
<p>Among the injured were several journalists, including Abraham Gasparyan from ABC Media. RSF (Reporters Without Borders) <a href="https://rsf.org/en/protests-armenia-rsf-denounces-deliberate-police-violence-against-reporters">criticized</a> the Armenian police for “deliberately” targeting journalists.</p>
<p>NOTE: It’s important to highlight that the stun grenades that were used are reported to produce noise greater than 170dB, which can instantly cause permanent hearing damage.</p>
<p>Rafael, you were there on the scene that day, monitoring the protests.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what happened that day? How did everything start?</li>
<li>Was the police use of force proportional, or even justified?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="stun-grenades">Stun Grenades</h3>
<p>Your <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vLjYN1c2lAHeCh1f3Nr1-ruFg3n06TwT/view">report</a> shows that some police officers were trying to maintain order, while others were agitating and fighting with protesters.</p>
<p>Then you also describe how, when the first stun grenades were employed, the situation was tense but not violent and it seems that the police initiated the violence.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us more about why the police found it necessary to use stun grenades?</li>
<li>What type were they? How many were deployed?</li>
<li>Was the use justified by policies and regulations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pace-resolution-on-armenia">PACE Resolution on Armenia</h2>
<p>A <a href="https://pace.coe.int/pdf/f3e571f3281112b82c0b03440a1c991ce1ce21c624ee175091b291be8b1fb287?title=Doc.%2015994.pdf">PACE report</a> on Armenia’s honoring of its obligations and commitments was just released.</p>
<p>The report begins with: <strong><em>“The Parliamentary Assembly commends Armenia for its continuous commitment to democratic development in spite of the considerable security challenges it is facing”</em></strong></p>
<p>In an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtfHWwHJTI">interview</a>, Kimmo Kiljunen, one of the co-rapporteurs said that they’re assessing Armenia’s commitments to the EU “positively”, but said that there were a few “internal hiccups”.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the other co-rapporteur, Boriana Åberg, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj_6-BiyvkQ">in her own interview</a>, said that despite the war, the refugees from Artsakh, and challenges around the “peace agreement”, Armenia has been able to reform the electoral system as well as increase the independence of its judiciary. The only concern she could name was that the political climate is polarized, appearing to also lecture the opposition for being too radical.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your overall assessment of the report?</li>
<li>What “internal hiccups” is Kiljunen referring to?</li>
</ul>
<p>Shameful paragraph 4: <strong><em>“The Assembly expresses its relief that clashes (in Sep 2023) with the police forces during these events brought no casualties, in sharp contrast with the 10 deaths that had occurred in March 2008”</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is comparison with March 1 fair?
<ul>
<li>Because it seems like Pashinyan’s government basically wrote some of the report for PACE and handed it to them. Paragraph 4 is the most basic Pashinyan propaganda.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="judicial-independence">Judicial Independence</h3>
<p>In 2023 the Freedom House Armenia <a href="https://freedomhouse.org/country/armenia/freedom-net/2023">report</a> wrote: “<strong>The judiciary lacks independence and is one of the least trusted public institutions in the country.”</strong></p>
<p>The PACE report starts with: [paragraph] <strong><em>“15. The Assembly commends the reforms aimed at safeguarding the independence of the judiciary and notes with satisfaction the openness of the Armenian authorities to a genuine dialogue with the Council of Europe and their continued effort to improve the system of judicial governance in line with European standards”</em></strong></p>
<p>But it also mentions that there’s “widespread perception” that the disciplinary procedures against judges are being abused.</p>
<p>The PACE report goes on to recommend that:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Ethics and Disciplinary Commission of the General Assembly of Judges should be reformed</li>
<li>There should be restrictions for politicians from becoming members of the SJC</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Did the report cover the issues with the Armenian judiciary adequately, in your opinion?
<ul>
<li>NOTE: In the first installment of SoS, we talked about this.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="right-to-peaceful-assembly">Right To Peaceful Assembly</h3>
<p>The PACE report starts with: [paragraph] “101. Respect for the right to protest and response of law enforcement to protests have caused concerns.”</p>
<p>The report then discusses Article 136 of the Armenian Criminal Code, which criminalizes “incentivized participation” in rallies, and which is against  the spirit of European guidelines on Peaceful Assembly.</p>
<p>Interestingly the PACE report refers to Avetik Chalabyan’s case in paragraphs 103 and 104. Chalabyan himself <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/146983">noted</a> this reference, adding that the Armenian Criminal Code was modified to add the unconstitutional Article 136, and added his voice to the ACPR and the Helsinki Committee of Armenia, urging authorities to get a second opinion from the Venice Commission.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts on Article 136? Is it unconstitutional?</li>
<li>If you read between the lines, The PACE report seems to be saying that since Chalabyan’s case, the government has been using Article 136 against the opposition liberally. Is the government applying Article 136 appropriately?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-has-2nd-highest-pretrial-detention-rate">Armenia Has 2nd Highest Pretrial Detention Rate</h2>
<p>Armenia, due to social cohesion, is relatively crime-free. However, Armenia has the #2 highest rate of pretrial detentions (53%) in Council of Europe, which is one of the tools that Pashinyan punishes political opponents.</p>
<p>In other words, more people are in prison in pre-trial detention than those serving actual jail time as part of a criminal verdict.</p>
<p>Top pre-trial detention countries:</p>
<ul>
<li>Albania (55%)</li>
<li><strong>Armenia (53%)</strong></li>
<li>Luxembourg (49%)</li>
<li>Switzerland (46%)</li>
<li>The Netherlands (45%)</li>
<li>Montenegro (42%)</li>
<li>Northern Ireland (UK) (41%)</li>
</ul>
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<p>Data:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://wp.unil.ch/space/space-i/annual-reports/">https://wp.unil.ch/space/space-i/annual-reports/</a></li>
</ul>
<p>When we say political persecution, we keep thinking about the standard cases of political imprisonment.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What can you say about pretrial detention?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="spotlight-on-prisonerscases">Spotlight on Prisoners/Cases</h2>
<h3 id="armen-ashotyan">Armen Ashotyan</h3>
<p>One of Pashinyan’s most prominent political opponents.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.investigative.am/en/news/armen-ashotyan-the-ra-former-minister-chairman-of-the-board-of-trustees-of-the-foundation-of-yerevan-state-medical-university-after-mkhitar-heratsi-arrested-for-violation-of-conditions-of-pretrial-measure-video-photos">Charged</a> in 2022 with abuse of official position and money laundering while holding the position of the Chairman of the Board of Trustees of YSMU named after Mkhitar Heratsi, as well as the Minister of Education and Science. Alleged to have “pushed” Rector Narimanyan to buy apartments from the &ldquo;Tsovasar&rdquo; hotel complex belonging to Ishkhan Saghatelyan&rsquo;s family on behalf of the university. Initially released on bail with signature not to leave the country.</p>
<p>In June 15, 2023, re-arrested for violating the terms of his bail by allegedly attempting to “influence the investigation” by offering the services of his lawyers to the witnesses. Ashotyan’s attorney Tigran Atanesyan denies attempts to influence the preliminary investigation and reports that the apartments purchased on behalf of the medical university are still on the university&rsquo;s balance sheet, and their market value has even increased, which excludes money laundering and other accusations.</p>
<p>None of the intermediaries accused of taking part in this crime are under arrest, only Ashotyan is, highlighting the political nature of this case. Conditions of his detention (strict restriction of contacts/visitation) also indicative of political motivations (compare with fmr. Minister of Economy Vahan Kerobyan suspected of corruption, but received a house arrest).</p>
<p><strong>Detention</strong>: June 15, 2023 - Present (~12+ months so far)</p>
<h3 id="avetik-chalabyan">Avetik Chalabyan</h3>
<p>Avetik Chalabyan has been a prominent opposition politician, and has been a scathing critic of Pashinyan, as well as his proposed constitutional rewrite, education reforms and more. In 2022 he was charged with “motivating students materially” to participate in opposition rallies. In 2023 he co-founded the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hayaqve/?hl=en">Hayaqve</a> legislative initiative. Ultimately a guilty verdict was issued in Dec. 2023, banning Chalabyan from organizing &amp; participating in assemblies for 2.5 years.</p>
<p>Freedom of assembly, as well as other human rights, are constitutional rights that can only be restricted when the following three norms are simultaneously satisfied:</p>
<ol>
<li>to be provided for by law</li>
<li>to be necessary in a democratic society</li>
<li>to pursue a legitimate goal</li>
</ol>
<p>Detentions: May 14, 2022 - July 27, 2022, July 31, 2022 - August 31, 2022 , Released on AMD 15M bail (~4 months total)</p>
<p>Status: Currently under appeal.</p>
<p>Details: <a href="https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Joint_Report_HCA_ACPR_10.01.2024_ARM_REVISED-1.pdf">Joint Report by Helsinki Committee of Armenia and Armenian Center for Political Rights</a></p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Tell us more about Avetik Chalabyan, is he a political prisoner in his own country?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="documents">Documents:</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://pace.coe.int/pdf/f3e571f3281112b82c0b03440a1c991ce1ce21c624ee175091b291be8b1fb287">Report: The honouring of obligations and commitments by Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pace.coe.int/en/news/9538/armenia-while-welcoming-the-electoral-reforms-implemented-pace-regrets-the-excessive-polarisation-of-the-political-climate">Armenia: while welcoming the electoral reforms implemented, PACE regrets the excessive polarisation of the political climate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/default.aspx?pdffile=CDL-AD(2019)017rev-e">OSCE / ODIHR GUIDELINES ON FREEDOM OF PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY</a> (3rd ed) \</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="interviews">Interviews:</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj_6-BiyvkQ">PACE&rsquo;s Boriana Åberg on the honouring of obligations and commitments by Armenia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtfHWwHJTI">PACE&rsquo;s Kimmo Kiljunen on the honouring of obligations and commitments by Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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#### Topics:
* Armenia, Azerbaijan, at NATO Summit
* Border Talks Still in Chaos
* Srbazan in Syunik
* Pashinyan in Syunik
* Srbazan Movement
* Arms, or Alms for Armenia?
* Orban, Aliyev’s Man inside the EU
* Eagle Partner 2024 in Armenia
Episode 342 | Recorded: July 8, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Armenia, Azerbaijan, at NATO Summit
* Border Talks Still in Chaos
* Srbazan in Syunik
* Pashinyan in Syunik
* Srbazan Movement
* Arms, or Alms for Armenia?
* Orban, Aliyev’s Man inside the EU
* Eagle Partner 2024 in Armenia
Episode 342 | Recorded: July 8, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-at-nato-summit">Armenia, Azerbaijan, at NATO Summit</h2>
<p>Last weekend we heard initially from Azeri sources that James O’Brien had <a href="https://asbarez.com/u-s-invites-armenia-azerbaijan-to-nato-summit-in-washington/">extended invitations</a> to Armenia and Azerbaijan to attend the 75th Anniversary NATO summit in Washington DC. Immediately thereafter <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1194717">Armenia confirmed and accepted</a> the offer to attend as a “partner”. There are expectations that Pashinyan and Aliyev will meet on the sidelines of the summit in mid-July, and we know that the US has stated one thousand times that they’re ready to help Armenia and Azerbaijan sign an agreement. I guess any agreement, which could serve as an excuse for Erdogan to take a step towards Armenia.</p>
<p><a href="https://asbarez.com/moscow-slams-nato-for-inviting-armenia-and-azerbaijan-to-summit/">Moscow slammed</a> the invitation and effectively rejected western meddling in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, saying that Russia’s 2020 and 2022 solutions are the best way forward.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>This summit is coming up, what outcomes can be expected from Armenia and Azerbaijan attending?</li>
<li>Moscow’s reaction was to be expected. What consequences could result from attending the NATO summit?</li>
</ul>
<p>Hovik - peace forum - pashinyan pouring cold water on peace agreement?</p>
<p>Moscow talks about the Nov. 2020 agreement still. Almost none of that so-called “agreement” has been implemented by Azerbaijan. Moscow has also failed to keep up its end of the bargain, regardless of who’s to blame for what. So that agreement just seems like a sham document.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What expectations does Moscow still have from it?</li>
</ul>
<p>Andrey Nastasin, a spokesman for the Russian MFA, accused NATO of arming Armenia and helping it rebuild its defense sector, under the guise of “boosting Armenia’s resilience”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this an implicit admission by the Russians that they were complicit in keeping Armenia disarmed and defenseless? And for what purpose?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="border-talks-still-in-chaos">Border Talks Still in Chaos</h2>
<p>On April 19 the Armenian and Azerbaijani border commissions had declared that by July 1 there would be clear regulations with which demarcation and delimitation negotiations would proceed. Based on that statement Pashinyan went ahead and handed over 4 villages in Tavush to the Azeris.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33019118.html">July 1 has come and gone</a>, and there are no regulations in sight, we do not know the basis for any so-called “agreements” for the border commissions, we do not know the maps based on which they conduct discussions, pretty much nothing is known of this so-called “process”, except that Pashinyan is making <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33017378.html">unilateral concessions</a>, and getting nothing for it.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the reason for not meeting the July 1 deadline?</li>
</ul>
<p>There is pressure on Aliyev to sign something, anything, as the US hopes it will unblock the Turkish-Armenian gordian knot. But <a href="https://asbarez.com/aliyevs-new-approaches-to-peace-treaty-seem-like-stall-tactics/">Aliyev made it clear</a> this week that only some agreement on principles may be signed any time soon. He has also thrown in demands for changing the Armenian constitution, recognizing so-called “Khojali genocide”, allowing hundreds of thousands of Azeris to settle in Armenia, including Turkish forces to secure them, and on and on. Every day there’s something new.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are these demands fake demands to put hurdles in the path of a real “peace agreement”, are these negotiation tactics, or are these real concerns?</li>
<li>Pashinyan sold people the idea that his unilateral concessions of Tavush villages will bring a real “peace agreement”. Now Aliyev has clearly contradicted this, how will Pashinyan spin it?</li>
<li>What’s the value, and also the risk, of any “framework” agreement if borders are not defined?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h2>
<h3 id="srbazan-in-syunik">Srbazan in Syunik</h3>
<p>We mentioned Pashinyan’s concession of villages in Tavush to Azerbaijan. That action gave rise to a popular revolt led by Bagrat Srbazan, known as the Srbazan Movement, or Tavush for the Homeland movement. On June 12th the movement led large rallies in Yerevan which elicited a violent and brutal police response. Totally ignored by the western media and diplomatic corps, by the way.</p>
<p>Over the course of the past week Bagrat Srbazan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33017553.html">visited</a> many villages in Syunik, warning of the dangerous precedent that Pashinyan had set in Tavush.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>After June 12, Bagrat Srbazan promised to regroup and restructure the movement, which has set regime change as a key goal. What do they need to do to set up for success?</li>
<li>Was the past week productive towards their goals?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-syunik">Pashinyan in Syunik</h3>
<p>Two weeks ago Pashinyan went to Syunik and also other regions, this past week he was again in Tavush, mainly <a href="https://bm.ge/en/news/armenian-prime-minister-announces-creation-of-new-road-network">socializing</a> his infrastructure policies for new road networks in the country, but also doubling down on his border policies.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the aim of his visit? Did he achieve it?</li>
<li>Do the people of Syunik support Pashinyan’s policies towards signing whatever deal with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>The road networks have needed serious work for years and decades. Is Pashinyan’s focus on this infrastructure purely functional, or political?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="arms-or-alms-for-armenia">Arms, or Alms for Armenia?</h2>
<p>Despite state laws on keeping military acquisitions a secret, we <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2024/06/20/caesar-howitzers-armenia-continues-buildup-of-french-and-indian-arms/">read</a> a lot about French Armenian or Indian Armenian arms deals. Quite a lot!</p>
<p>For example, we read that Armenia will acquire 36 French <a href="https://asbarez.com/france-will-deliver-36-caesars-over-15-months-armenian-official-confirms/">CAESAR</a> Howitzer systems; that Armenia is considering the Indian-Israeli <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1194255">Barak 8 SAM systems</a>; and more.</p>
<p>We don’t hear much about any Russian deals these days, but we do hear Russia complaining about NATO arming Armenia. Azerbaijan also complains vehemently, but they put the blame on France, not NATO.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How significant are these acquisitions, or considerations, for western weaponry for Armenia?</li>
<li>What effect will they have on Armenia’s security in the short term, and also the long term?</li>
<li>Why do we hear so much about such acquisitions, when theoretically these deals should be a state secret? In fact the national assembly recently passed a law to keep such information as state secrets, yet the government is out screaming from rooftops not only what systems they’re acquiring or considering, but also the numbers! Is the messaging and PR more important than the weaponry itself?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="orban-aliyevs-man-inside-the-eu">Orban, Aliyev’s Man inside the EU</h3>
<p>Last week Hungary’s Victor Orban, who is Aliyev’s mole inside the EU, reportedly dropped his veto against providing “military aid” to Armenia. We’re talking about $11 million dollars over 2.5 years, to set up a field hospital and some facilities for a battalion unit.</p>
<p>In the context of defense budgets, this amount is absolutely trivial. But Orban extracted <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33021895.html">concessions</a> from the EU to also finance demining operations in Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>There is much more politics here than there is military aid or context.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this whole topic a red herring? 10 million euros over 2.5 years is not arms, it is alms. Yet on the flip side, does the EU’s funding for demining operations in Artsakh legitimize Azerbaijan’s ethnic cleansing?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eagle-partner-2024-in-armenia">Eagle Partner 2024 in Armenia</h3>
<p>Later this month Armenia will <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33024389.html">host</a> the Eagle Partner 2024 joint military drills with the US. The program trains the peacekeeping forces of the two militaries in their interoperability, and in 2023 about a hundred US, and 200 Armenian troops participated in the exercises.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the US has <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/us-postpone-noble-military-exercise-georgia-foreign-agent/33023622.html">called off</a> the Noble Partner 2024 drills in Georgia, following Georgia’s passing of the so-called “Foreign Agent” bill. The Pentagon said that holding the program in the current atmosphere in Georgia would be inappropriate.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Both Russia and Iran criticized the 2023 event. What is wrong with holding these exercises between Armenia and the US?</li>
<li>Given that the drills in Georgia were canceled over a law that the US objected to, are these “partner” programs mere political sticks and carrots, or do they offer a real military value and advantage?</li>
<li>Do the Armenian and Georgian militaries hold joint drills? Why or why not?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Karen</strong>: Lack of organization and learning from past mistakes in Armenian movements</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Appreciating the Armenian Constitution on July 5, the national holiday</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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[EP341]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/341-elisa-von-joeden-forgey-lemkin-institute-artsakh-genocide-pashinyan-genocide-denial-gaza-and-other-genocides/</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15330673-elisa-von-joeden-forgey-lemkin-institute-genocide-in-artsakh-pashinyan-genocide-denial-gaza-other-ep-341-june-28-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
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#### Topics:
* Background on the Lemkin Institute
* Genocide in Artsakh
* Armenian Government’s Genocide Denial
* Gaza and other Genocides
Episode 341 | Recorded: June 25, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Armenian Government’s Genocide Denial
* Gaza and other Genocides
Episode 341 | Recorded: June 25, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Background on the Lemkin Institute
* Genocide in Artsakh
* Armenian Government’s Genocide Denial
* Gaza and other Genocides
Episode 341 | Recorded: June 25, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="background-on-lemkin-institute">Background on Lemkin Institute</h2>
<p>Your institute is relatively new, and this is your first time on our show.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Would you tell us a little about yourself, and also about the Lemkin Institute and its founding?</li>
<li>What is the current mission of the institute?</li>
<li>What is the process through which the Institute determines, and then declares a situation as a genocide?</li>
<li>How is the Lemkin Institute funded? What are the resources at the institute?</li>
</ul>
<p>On your website we see that the <a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com">Lemkin Institute</a> keeps a wide watch of genocide around the globe, and that it also takes an uncompromising, un-political stance on the issue no matter where it takes place.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In today’s world, this level of independence is commendable and rare unfortunately. What’s the key to success here?</li>
<li>How can people be more involved with the institute?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-genocide">Artsakh Genocide</h2>
<h3 id="how-did-we-get-here">How did we get here?</h3>
<p>Your organization has been outspoken in support of the right of Artsakhtsis to live on their own historic land. The <a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/red-flag-alerts/red-flag-alert-for-genocide---azerbaijan-update-1">very first</a> “Red Flag Alert&rsquo;&rsquo; you raised, back in 2021, was about Artsakh. And those red flag alerts were issued regularly until September, 2023, when after a short but deadly war, Artsakh was forcefully depopulated of all of its indigenous people. The harrowing scenes of the slow procession of cars and people through the Lachin corridor to Armenia was reminiscent of the photographs of forced marches in 1915.</p>
<p>Your Red Flag Alerts were prophetic and unfortunately the global powers today seem ready to accept what happened, at least for now.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did we get here? What can be learned from Artsakh in order to prevent future genocide?</li>
<li>In the past you have <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLEAGDiV9rs">said</a> that what happened in Artsakh was genocide. How strong is the scientific record that what happened in Artsakh was a genocide?</li>
<li>In today’s geopolitical climate, what is realistic and what isn’t? What can be done to preserve the rights of Artsakhtsis to their historic lands.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="see-no-evil">See no evil?</h3>
<p>Shortly before September 2023, the US government seemed to have an uncompromising stance on the threat of violence in Artsakh. The words of Yuri Kim before the ethnic cleansing were encouraging but her silence afterwards were deafening.</p>
<p>Let’s assume some “international community” actually exists.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was there any international role that key players failed in or conveniently chose to ignore?
<ul>
<li>Note I deliberately omitted the word “duty”.</li>
<li>NOTE: In previous interviews, she has <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFRSMlZ9fM">said</a> that “The world could stop genocide if it wanted to” and that “outside actors are so important for setting the state for genocide”.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>After the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, James O’Brien, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32686168.html">said</a> that the US is putting together a “comprehensive, thorough and transparent” record of what transpired. That was back in November of last year, more than 6 months ago.</p>
<p>Then, we saw Azerbaijan sign more contracts with the EU and welcomed a more prominent role for Azerbaijan, the latest example of which could be seen in how they’re accepting the news that Azerbaijan will host COP29.</p>
<p>Less than two weeks ago, O’Brien was in Armenia and indicated that the <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/828734.html">report</a> that they’ve commissioned is still being worked on. And until this report is released, they don’t know if what happened is ethnic cleansing or “immigration”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it really so difficult to uncover what happened?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-governments-genocide-denial">Armenian Government’s Genocide Denial</h2>
<h3 id="pashinyans-language-of-denial">Pashinyan’s Language of Denial</h3>
<p>This year on April 24, Pashinyan during his <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/statements-and-messages/item/2024/04/24/Nikol-Pashinyan-April-24/">address</a> on the occasion of the Armenian Genocide, issued a statement that came under criticism from the Lemkin institute.</p>
<p>One of the key eye-catching aspects of that statement was that he used the term “Meds Yeghern” frequently. In the first paragraph of the statement, he mentions the term Armenian Genocide; but also in parenthesis, he mentions “Meds Yeghern” as a way of introducing a new term. And then he proceeds to exclusively use the latter term.</p>
<p>Meds Yeghern has been used by Pashinyan recently. It is a statement from the days of the Obama administration, when diplomats were trying to identify a euphemism to use for the Armenian Genocide without actually using the word “genocide”.</p>
<p>On May 10, the Lemkin Institute issued a <a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-condemning-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan's-cryptic-engagement-with-genocide-denial">statement</a> titled: “Statement Condemning Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s Cryptic Engagement with Genocide Denial”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did you decide to issue your statement?</li>
<li>Was your statement based on different standards than with other genocides?</li>
<li>What is the issue with using the term “Meds Yeghern” instead of explicitly using the term Genocide, for The Armenian Genocide?</li>
<li>What has been the response to your statement from the Armenian government and its associated circles?
<ul>
<li>Previously you had been featured as a guest on Armenian Public TV. Have they called you to get comments on this statement or invite you on their program for another interview?</li>
<li>Has anyone else from the Armenian government or allied with them tried to reach out to your org?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="greg-sarkissian-criticism-of-the-lemkin-institute">Greg Sarkissian Criticism of the Lemkin Institute</h3>
<p>Greg Sarkissian, head of the Zoryan Institute, has criticized your statement, calling for an apology to Nikol Pashinyan and the “Armenian people”. His <a href="https://zoryaninstitute.org/unjustly-condemning-pm-pashinyan-of-cryptic-engagement-with-genocide-denial-undermines-credibility-of-the-lemkin-institute/">article</a> was published on the Zoryan institute website, but in it Sarkissian clarifies that it is his own personal opinion and not that of the institute.</p>
<p>It is unclear which “Armenian people” he’s talking about, certainly it can be argued that a significant number of Armenian people, especially diasporans, are incensed at Pashinyan’s own statements and the statements coming from his “lieutenants” that belittle the veracity of the Armenian Genocide. Nevertheless, the main argument in Sarkissian’s article is that you omitted the first paragraph from Pashinyan’s April 24 statement, which as we mentioned before uses the term “Armenian Genocide” once, but then continues to emphasize “Meds Yeghern”.</p>
<p>Sarkissian’s article mentions nothing about Pashinyan’s coterie of yes men who have made more questionable statements. For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hovik Aghazaryan, MP from Civil Contract, repeatedly has questioned Armenia’s legal basis for pursuing justice.</li>
<li>Andranik Kocharyan, another prominent MP from Civil Contract, has said that Armenia must have an exact count of genocide victims (including names and addresses) and if we don’t, then this gives basis to debate the veracity of questioning the number of Genocide victims.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you respond to Sarkissian’s criticism?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="gaza-and-other-genocides">Gaza and Other Genocides</h2>
<p>Today, we talked about mostly cases of Armenian interest, such as the Armenian Genocide and the genocide in Artsakh. But the manifestation of genocide worldwide is undeniable.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what other areas of the world are you raising red flags about?</li>
<li>We have some obvious cases such as Gaza, at what point did Gaza turn from a “response” to October 7, to a humanitarian crisis, and now on to a Genocide?</li>
<li>Where else is genocide occuring or there’s a rising risk of genocide?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/lemkin-institute-calls-on-un-to-withdraw-azerbaijan-as-climate-summit-host/">Lemkin Institute Calls on UN to Withdraw Azerbaijan as Climate Summit Host</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/red-flag-alerts/red-flag-alert---armenian-quarter-of-jerusalem">Red Flag Alert - Armenian Quarter of Jerusalem</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-condemning-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan's-cryptic-engagement-with-genocide-denial">Statement Condemning Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s Cryptic Engagement with Genocide Denial</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/active-genocide-alert-1/active-genocide-alert---azerbaijan-in-artsakh-">Active Genocide Alert - Azerbaijan in Artsakh</a> - August 2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/_files/ugd/9bc553_663d60d581a542c4bb7795f36d8af957.pdf">Executive Summary of the Report on the Risk Factors and Indicators of the Crime of Genocide in the Republic of Artsakh</a> - Sep. 5, 2023</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes.
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* Could the Opposition Trigger New Elections?
Episode 340 | Recorded: June 21, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
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* Could the Opposition Trigger New Elections?
Episode 340 | Recorded: June 21, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Unconstitutional “Delimitation” Process
* Could the Opposition Trigger New Elections?
Episode 340 | Recorded: June 21, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="legal--constitutional-issues-in-armenian-politics">Legal &amp; Constitutional Issues in Armenian Politics</h1>
<h2 id="unconstitutional-delimitation-process">Unconstitutional “Delimitation” Process</h2>
<ul>
<li>Kirants residents, in Tavush, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9egxZg6xdU">are being told</a> to quit their claim to their property and other “non-land” rights.</li>
<li>They’re being offered huge sums of money (according to Bagrat Srbazan, they’re being offered <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/830368.html">compensation of $50K for a property that is worth $1K</a>)</li>
<li>Eminent Domain is not being used.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this process legal and constitutional?</li>
<li>Pashinyan administration members say that these lands are not Armenia and there has been a mistake made by the Cadastre. Does this set a precedent where, one day Armenia’s cadastre committee could say that they realized that all those property rights south of Lake Sevan were issued by mistake, due to the Treaty of Alexandropol. Is this a correct analogy with what’s happening to the dispossessed residents of Kirants, in Tavush?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="could-the-opposition-trigger-new-elections">Could the Opposition Trigger New Elections?</h2>
<p>Over the past few months the “idea” has been circulated from certain sectors that the parliamentary opposition should give up their mandates, and thus trigger a constitutional crisis in Armenia, leading to new elections.</p>
<p>Both of the parliamentary opposition alliances have rejected this.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Especially considering that the ruling party has a super-majority in the parliament, does the argument hold water that a “mass resignation” by the opposition would trigger a “constitutional crisis” and lead to new elections?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes.</p>
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[EP339]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/339-dziunik-aghajanian-caesarsystems-purchased-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-pashinyan-talks-to-erdogan-eu-parliamet-shifts-right/</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15312944-dziunik-aghajanian-srbazan-movement-pause-eu-right-shift-renewed-azerbaijan-war-threats-did-pashinyan-get-marching-orders-from-erdogan-ep-339-june-23-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>339</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - Srbazan Movement Pause, EU Right Shift, Renewed Azerbaijan War Threats, Did Pashinyan get Marching Orders from Erdogan | Ep 339 - June 23, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - 06/23/2024
        
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#### Topics:
* Srbazan Movement: Pause & Regroup?
* EU Parliamentary Shift to the Right
* Armenia and EU Membership
* Renewed Azerbaijani Threats of War
* Armenia Reports CAESAR Artillery Acquisition
* Did Pashinyan Get Marching Orders from Erdogan?
Episode 339 | Recorded: June 23, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Topics:
* Srbazan Movement: Pause & Regroup?
* EU Parliamentary Shift to the Right
* Armenia and EU Membership
* Renewed Azerbaijani Threats of War
* Armenia Reports CAESAR Artillery Acquisition
* Did Pashinyan Get Marching Orders from Erdogan?
Episode 339 | Recorded: June 23, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Srbazan Movement: Pause & Regroup?
* EU Parliamentary Shift to the Right
* Armenia and EU Membership
* Renewed Azerbaijani Threats of War
* Armenia Reports CAESAR Artillery Acquisition
* Did Pashinyan Get Marching Orders from Erdogan?
Episode 339 | Recorded: June 23, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="srbazan-movement-pause-and-regroup">Srbazan Movement: Pause and Regroup?</h2>
<p>After the brutal use of police violence on the protesters on June 12 and the quorum-busting move from Civil Contract on June 17, which prevented the opposition from holding a hearing on the topic of demanding Pashinyan’s resignation, the protest movement led by Bagrat Srbazan has announced that it will change tactics and use the tool of rallies and protests sparingly and tactically. Furthermore, the movement will be re-grouped and expanded, according to Srbazan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment of the movement so far?</li>
<li>What are the missing elements of success?</li>
</ul>
<p>On June 12, one of the people associated with Bagrat Srbazan, a hitherto de-facto leader of the movement, <strong>Suren Petrosyan</strong>, was nowhere to be found. The Srbazan later <a href="https://hraparak.am/post/24737c5291bd420e925b8748992b7da3">announced</a> that Petrosyan had been kidnapped. Then, there were conflicting reports that he was not kidnapped, and that he had participated in a “very long” discussion.</p>
<p>A discussion with whom? Why during the peak of the protests? And about what?</p>
<p>These questions were left unanswered by protest leaders and the Srbazan said that Petrosyan was out of the country for personal reasons and when he comes back, he should answer these questions himself. He seemed to remain committed to his initial news about “kidnapping”.</p>
<p>Afterwards, Suren Petrosyan gave an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_PUEPenPtA">interview</a> to <strong>24 News</strong>, which lasted almost 90 minutes and raised more questions than answers.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment of the role Petrosyan has played in the movement so far?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-parliamentary-shift-to-the-right">EU Parliamentary Shift to the Right</h2>
<p>Earlier in June the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/eu-parliament-elections-live-updates-latest-d66061efe90a5b3d1762d3ddfade0491">EU held parliamentary elections</a>, which clearly indicated a significant <a href="https://ecfr.eu/publication/a-sharp-right-turn-a-forecast-for-the-2024-european-parliament-elections/">shift to the right</a>. In France, Emmanuel Macron’s Renaissance party was defeated by a far right party called the National Rally. Macron has called for snap elections, to deal with what amounts to a vote of no confidence in his administration. In Germany chancellor Olaf Scholtz’s Social Democrats sank to 14% support, behind extreme far-right parties in his country. Meanwhile, Victor Orban’s nationalist party in Hungary <a href="https://apnews.com/article/hungarians-vote-orban-war-peace-european-parliament-8b54d0e99166127a4356d3a2d75f0a27">underperformed</a>, yet still managed to win.</p>
<p>We know that Macron has been a steady supporter of Armenia and Pashinyan; and Scholtz has become more involved in the mediation process between Azerbaijan and Armenia. We also know that Orban is a steadfast friend of Erdogan and Aliyev, and scuttles every pro-Armenian initiative inside the EU.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your read of these political-tectonic shifts within the EU?</li>
<li>How does it shift the relationship of the EU towards Russia, Ukraine, and the whole “Eastern Front”?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-and-eu-membership">Armenia and EU Membership</h3>
<p>Last week, a fringe group of one-man political parties, almost all of them loyal to Pashinyan, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33004266.html">held</a> a discussion in a committee of the Armenian National Assembly. The topic was that Armenia should join the EU and the participants were urging the ruling party to organize a referendum, in September, on this topic.</p>
<p>Joining the EU was not in the program of Civil Contract in the last elections. None of these fringe political parties have any seats in the parliament.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do these shifts to the right in Europe mean for Armenia, and the South Caucasus in general?</li>
<li>What are the true motivations for having these discussions now?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="renewed-azerbaijan-threats-of-war">Renewed Azerbaijan Threats of War</h2>
<p>Over the past few weeks, Azerbaijani propaganda has again started spreading news that Armenia is violating the ceasefire regime almost on a daily basis. This is a telltale sign that Azerbaijan is planning its next diversion. The EU Monitoring Mission  responded that there were no observed violations by Armenia in the locations alleged by Azerbaijan. But Armenia’s mellow response to these allegations was to <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azerbaijan-investigate-ceasefire-violation/32994456.html">simply</a> propose joint mechanisms to investigate the violations, for the manieth time.</p>
<p>Then, after the announcement of the purchase of the French CAESAR self-propelled Howitzer systems, Azerbaijan stepped up its aggressive rhetoric. Caliber.az, a site associated with the Azerbaijani defense ministry ran a <a href="https://caliber.az/en/post/249171/">report</a> with the headline: “Third Karabakh War becomes inevitable”</p>
<p>Armenia meanwhile <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32999698.html">dismissed</a> Azerbaijan’s claims and said that the latter was looking for reasons to derail the negotiations and not sign a so-called “peace treaty” in 2024. Furthermore, it accused Azerbaijan of seeking to begin a new war after COP29 in Baku, in November.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>One week Armenia’s officials are reporting that peace is extremely close, another week there’s talk about war. What is the status of the Armenian Azerbaijani talks?</li>
<li>There are expectations that COP29 is a significant date for the signing of some form of an Armenian-Azeri agreement. Can you discuss why that is?</li>
<li>Is there some sort of non-public agreement behind the scenes that they’re not telling the Armenian public about?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="announcement-of-caesar-artillery-acquisition">Announcement of CAESAR Artillery Acquisition</h3>
<p>On Tuesday it was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32997992.html">reported</a> that Armenia will purchase an unspecified number of CAESAR self-propelled howitzer artillery from France. France will also conduct “mountain combat training courses” for Armenian forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How serious of an acquisition are these French systems?</li>
<li>Will Georgia pass through these military acquisitions, when all of its other neighbors (Turkey, Russia, Azerbaijan) have reacted negatively to it?</li>
<li>What will Armenia do about the NATO standard artillery shells, which are in deficit?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="did-pashinyan-get-marching-orders-from-erdogan">Did Pashinyan Get Marching Orders from Erdogan?</h2>
<p>On Tuesday Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32999450.html">talked</a> with Erdogan and discussed “recent developments of the regional and international agenda”. No details were provided, in fact there were no statements from Erodgan’s side at all.</p>
<p>On Friday, Armenia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33003853.html">recognized</a> the state of Palestine, and Turkey was the first country to commend Armenia for doing so.</p>
<p>There were other questionable moves throughout the week, such as:</p>
<ul>
<li>On Wednesday Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32999804.html">initiated</a> the drafting of a new Armenian constitution.
<ul>
<li>Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have threatened that Armenia must change its constitution, and Pashinyan has tried to socialize their demands to the Armenian public.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>On Friday, Pashinyan had a <a href="https://x.com/HovikYerevan/status/1804152878661050420">meeting</a> with the iGorts program, where he said that the Diaspora as an institution should have no formal role in Armenia’s affairs and vice versa.
<ul>
<li>Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have repeatedly painted the Armenian diaspora as their #1 enemy and have asked Pashinyan to break away from the “captivity” of the Diaspora.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are these events related? Is Pashinyan consulting, or coordinating his moves with Turkey? Or is he simply getting his marching orders there?</li>
<li>Does Armenia’s recognition of a state of Palestine at this moment in time provide any diplomatic or other gains?
<ul>
<li>Note: I fully believe such a recognition is the right thing, I’m more interested to understand the timing, and its significance right now.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Israel <a href="https://asbarez.com/armenia-recognizes-palestinian-state/">warned</a> of unspecified “long-term consequences” to relations, following Armenia’s recognition. What could those be?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Dziunik</strong>: Daghestan and sleeping cells inside Russia being activated by the west.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Pashinyan’s damaging message to the youth of Armenia in their schools.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
<p>Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/339/thumbnail-339.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/339/thumbnail-339.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15312944-dziunik-aghajanian-srbazan-movement-pause-eu-right-shift-renewed-azerbaijan-war-threats-did-pashinyan-get-marching-orders-from-erdogan-ep-339-june-23-2024.mp3" length="49201575" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4097</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hagop Djernazian - Update on the Threats to the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem, Armenian-Israeli Relations, Recognizing State of Palestine | Ep 338 - June 23, 2024
[EP338]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/338-hagop-djernazian-threats-to-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem-armenia-israeli-relations-recognize-state-of-palestine/</link><pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 00:00:54 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15299192-hagop-djernazian-update-on-the-threats-to-the-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem-armenian-israeli-relations-recognizing-state-of-palestine-ep-338-june-23-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>338</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hagop Djernazian - Update on the Threats to the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem, Armenian-Israeli Relations, Recognizing State of Palestine | Ep 338 - June 23, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - June 23, 2024
        
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#### Topics:
* Update on the current situation of the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem
* State of the Community’s Case against Xana Gardens Inc.
* Armenia Recognizes the State of Palestine
* Effects of Armenian-Israeli Relations on the Armenian Community
Episode 338 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 23, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
* Update on the current situation of the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem
* State of the Community’s Case against Xana Gardens Inc.
* Armenia Recognizes the State of Palestine
* Effects of Armenian-Israeli Relations on the Armenian Community
Episode 338 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 23, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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* Update on the current situation of the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem
* State of the Community’s Case against Xana Gardens Inc.
* Armenia Recognizes the State of Palestine
* Effects of Armenian-Israeli Relations on the Armenian Community
Episode 338 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 23, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="legal-defense-fund-for-jerusalem-armenians">Legal Defense Fund for Jerusalem Armenians</h1>
<h3 id="please-support-the-legal-defense-fund-for-jerusalem-armenianshttpsgivebuttercomarmenianquarter">Please support the <strong><a href="https://givebutter.com/ArmenianQuarter">Legal Defense Fund for Jerusalem Armenians</a>!</strong></h3>
<p>The international legal team works Pro Bono. But some local lawyers must be paid, and that cost is on the community, and all Armenians around the world.</p>
<h1 id="update-on-the-threats-to-the-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem">Update on the Threats to the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem</h1>
<p>Just to catch up on the issues around the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem, let me point listeners to our Podcast Episodes <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/261">261</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/292">292</a> (links in the show notes) where we discussed the contract with which the Jerusalem Patriarchate reportedly granted a 98-year lease for Goveroo Bardez (Cow’s Garden), a considerable amount of space in the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem. This shady Israeli company has been trying to <a href="https://www.newarab.com/news/armenians-jerusalem-repel-armed-israeli-settlers">illegally land grab</a> a significant chunk of the Armenian Quarters.</p>
<p>Anyway, in May and June you <a href="https://x.com/SavetheArQ/status/1798710742373617747">tweeted</a> some updates to your legal case against Xana Gardens, the company.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/338/Save-the-ArQ-202406.png" alt="Case Update Tweet"  title="Case Update Tweet" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Jerusalem District Court rejects Xana Gardens&rsquo; appeal for an extension.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you give us an update on the current situation of the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem?</li>
<li>Describe your case in Jerusalem district court, to stop Xana Gardens from invading the Goveroo Bardez.</li>
<li>Why did the district court reject Xana Garden’s appeal to grant them more time?</li>
<li>Where do we go from here? What are your expectations?</li>
</ul>
<p>On Friday Armenia officially <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/33003853.html">recognized</a> the State of Palestine. Israel reportedly summoned the Armenian ambassador and warned Armenia of “consequences”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you think relations between Armenia and Israel affect your case or the Armenian Quarter in general?</li>
<li>How do the actions by the Republic of Armenia affect the Armenians of Jerusalem and Israel in general? For example, do you expect any effect on your community due to the recognition of Palestine by Armenia just this past week?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode. As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/338/thumbnail-338.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/338/thumbnail-338.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15299192-hagop-djernazian-update-on-the-threats-to-the-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem-armenian-israeli-relations-recognizing-state-of-palestine-ep-338-june-23-2024.mp3" length="10189375" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>846</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Police Brutality, Violence, and Repressions, Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, Armenia Russia Relations | Ep 337 - June 16, 2024
[EP337]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/337-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-repressions-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-armenia-russia-relations/</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15273576-benyamin-poghosyan-police-violence-and-repressions-armenia-azerbaijan-talks-armenia-russia-relations-ep-337-june-16-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>337</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Police Brutality, Violence, and Repressions, Armenia Azerbaijan Talks, Armenia Russia Relations | Ep 337 - June 16, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - June 16, 2024
        
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* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
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* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
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Episode 337 | Recorded: June 17, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
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#### Topics:
* Police Brutality, Violence & Repressions
* Armenia Azerbaijan Talks
* Armenia Russia Relations
Episode 337 | Recorded: June 17, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="police-violence-and-repressions">Police Violence and Repressions</h2>
<p>June 12 came and went. It was billed as a sort of culminating point and the date when Bagrat Srbazan’s assurances, that he needed 96 hours to remove Pashinyan, expired.</p>
<p>It proved to be a bloody day. On that day, the Pashinyan regime proved that they’re willing to use unprecedented force to suppress the protesters. Up to a hundred people sought medical attention after the police lobbed dozens of stun grenades at the protesters, many of them protesters.</p>
<p>NOTE: It’s important to highlight that the <strong>stun grenades</strong> that were used are <a href="https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/zarya-hand-grenade">reported</a> to produce noise greater than 170dB, which can instantly cause permanent hearing damage.</p>
<p>Today (June 17) there was another protest, on the occasion of the hearing in parliament that Bagrat Srbazan had demanded, in order to send a demand to Pashinyan for resignation. As promised, Civil Contract deputies boycotted the session triggering quorum failure.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What next in the movement?</li>
<li>Any announcements from Bagrat Srbazan yet on continuing the movement?</li>
</ul>
<p>The US Embassy’s response to the beating and injury of protesters on June 12 was to emphasize that protesters should “eschew violence”. Only after that do they also ask the police to refrain from violence, when this was chiefly a problem of disproportionate use of force by the police. According to various accounts, 25-30 stun grenades were fired.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the reason for such a strong show of support?</li>
</ul>
<p>June 12 was not the end of it. Over the weekend, Pashinyan’s government launched a series of repressions. More than a dozen members of the ARF were arrested. After the head of the ride-sharing company GG issued a call to join the protests, the offices of GG were raided and all computers were confiscated.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Add to this the arrest of Artsakh mayors and the practice of arresting active protest participants for at least 72 hours and then letting them go without charges, does this indicate an over-reliance on brute force to suppress protesters? Is this a strategy that can work long-term for Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-talks">Armenia Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<p>After the most recent war of words between Armenian and Azeri authorities about demands to change the Armenian constitution, or apologize for the so-called “Khojali genocide”, and for the two countries to apply together to annul the OSCE Minsk Group together, the State Department’s man to the South Caucasus, James O’Brien, and other <a href="https://armenpress.am/en/article/1193826">high level officials</a> were in Yerevan this past week for high level meetings, as well as for delicious dolma (<a href="https://x.com/DepSecStateMR/status/1802614519652651249">in their own words</a>).</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What were the key reasons for O’Brien’s trip to Yerevan? Why is there so much US attention on Armenia, and why now?</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://www.eurasiareview.com/16062024-azerbaijan-sets-terms-for-usa-eu-and-armenia-in-south-caucasus-geopolitics-oped/">Azeri media talks</a> about the so-called “Zangezur Corridor” as a fait-accompli, and claim that the US and the west are currently pressuring Armenia to open the extraterritorial corridor to meet their interests.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the status of that issue within the Armenian-Azerbaijani talks? And what are the key differences between Aliyev’s “corridor” through Armenia and Pashinyan’s “crossroads of peace”?</li>
<li>What are the interests of the west, in this issue?</li>
<li>Within 2 weeks there will be presidential elections in Iran. Do you foresee any shifts in Iranian policy and their red lines regarding Armenia’s territorial integrity and Azerbaijan’s demands for corridors?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---russia-relations">Armenia - Russia Relations</h2>
<p>Pashinyan continued on his anti-CSTO theme this week. Previously he had alleged, without clarifying any details, that 2 CSTO countries actively helped Azerbaijan before and during the 2020 war.</p>
<p>This week, he continued ranting against the CSTO by highlighting the pro-Azerbaijani role that Belarus has played since before the 44-day war. He vowed that as long as Lukashenko is president, neither he nor any Armenian official will visit Belarus.</p>
<p>The two countries also recalled their respective ambassadors for consultations”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Did Pashinyan just wake up and realize that Belarus has been supplying weapons to Azerbaijan?
<ul>
<li>Is this treatment also going to apply to Israel? Turkey? Hungary? Bulgaria? Slovakia? Italy?</li>
<li>How about THE UNITED STATES, who by the way provided a significant amount of military equipment to Azerbaijan for free (ostensibly to counter Iran)?</li>
<li>What’s really behind this emotional tirade from Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ukraine-summit-in-switzerland">Ukraine Summit in Switzerland</h3>
<p>The Ukraine “Peace Summit” in Switzerland is over. The organizers present it as a success, despite Russia, one of the main warring parties, not being present and rejecting the conference. Ten countries, including some major ones such as India and Brazil <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jun/16/russia-ukraine-war-peace-summit-enters-second-day-as-west-looks-to-put-pressure-on-russia">refused to sign the final declaration</a>. What’s even more interesting is that Armenia is also one of those ten countries!</p>
<p>The full list of abstaining countries: Armenia, Brazil, Slovakia, India, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, South Africa, and the UAE did not sign the final declaration.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did Armenia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32993202.html">attend</a> this summit, and what was the cause for this apparent caution by Pashinyan?</li>
<li>Did this summit bring the world closer to ending the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>At the same time, Putin <a href="https://www.rt.com/russia/599276-putin-names-conditions-peace-talks/">stated his conditions</a> for ending the war in Ukraine. Does that bring us any closer to ending the conflict?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-participants">Thoughts from Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: June 12th police violent attacks against journalists and the media, and again western government silence in the face of it.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Pashinyan’s counter logical, ahistorical “Real Armenia” vs “Historical Armenia” argument.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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#### Topics:
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* Hundreds Of Protesters Arrested
* “Red Berets” Beat Up MP
* Artsakh Mayors Under Arrest
* Podcasters Released But Banned From Podcasting
* Narek Samsonyan
* Vazgen Saghatelyan
#### Guest:
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* “Red Berets” Beat Up MP
* Artsakh Mayors Under Arrest
* Podcasters Released But Banned From Podcasting
* Narek Samsonyan
* Vazgen Saghatelyan
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* “Red Berets” Beat Up MP
* Artsakh Mayors Under Arrest
* Podcasters Released But Banned From Podcasting
* Narek Samsonyan
* Vazgen Saghatelyan
#### Guest:
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Episode 336 | Recorded: June 16, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="types-of-arrest-or-detention-in-armenia">Types of Arrest or Detention in Armenia</h1>
<p>During the recent anti government protests in Armenia hundreds have been arrested, and since we hear many terms used for these arrests, we thought we should talk about the various types of arrests and detentions and their specific uses. For example, since most protesters in Armenia are held for 3 hours, this usually falls under something called <strong>Administrative arrest</strong>. Well, what is that, and what are the types of arrests available to law enforcement agencies in Armenia?</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Apprehension</strong> (բերման ենթարկել), is when someone is taken to the police to fulfill a protocol. This one is only for administrative offenses: minor, no criminal charges involved. This can be for an hour max.</li>
<li><strong>Administrative arrest</strong> (վարչական ձերբակալում). Also for only minor, non-criminal offenses and can last no more than 3 hours. This is the most frequently used form of arrest.</li>
<li><strong>Arrest</strong> (ձերբակալություն), can last up to 72 hours. This is done if there is a suspicion of criminal offenses being involved in the case.</li>
<li><strong>Pre-trial detention</strong> (կալանավորում), is the “highest level” of arrest, which is the case for most political prisoners. Detention is used only if there are certain criminal charges against a person. Its term is up to 2 months and can be renewed as many times as “needed”.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Which is the right term to use to describe the activities of the police against protesters in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="right-of-assembly-violations">Right of Assembly Violations</h1>
<p>The Srbazan Movement started nearly 2 months ago. It started in Tavush and the movement quickly shifted to Yerevan, especially as the regime blocked the ability for people to assemble in Kirants in Tavush.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What violations has your group registered during this 2 month period?</li>
<li>Note: Training of force  question: are they not trained in …</li>
</ul>
<p>When the protests started in Yerevan, we were eyewitnesses to obviously increasing brutality by the police, streamed live. Hundreds of people are arrested daily, accompanied by beatings and imprisonment under questionable allegations. Even members of parliament, who enjoy immunity, were not spared. On Monday, May 27 dozens of “red beret” special police forces surrounded Ashot Simonyan, MP from the ARF and brutally beat him, then arrested him.</p>
<p>On Thursday, May 30, when Bagrat Srbazan with his supporters were in front of the foreign ministry, the police appeared to start a provocation with the protesters and again a brutal beating started. Dozens of people were arrested, including 2 deacons from the Church. According to <a href="https://www.aysor.am/am/news/2024/06/02/%D5%B4%D5%A5%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D5%BD%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%A3/2285958">reports</a>, the police were taunting the Deacon Hrayr, shouting “Hayr Surb” (Holy/Reverend Father) as they beat him. He had to be hospitalized.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How can this behavior by the police be explained?</li>
</ul>
<p>Today, during his daily summary of events, Bagrat Srbazan also mentioned that cars belonging to protesters were being impounded. Prominent lawyer Ruben Melikyan said that the police were trying to find false pretenses, such as recently reported crimes where the vehicle description matched that of the protester’s car, in order to illegally hold the car for a longer period.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Have you noticed this practice as well during your observations of the activities of the police?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="artsakh-mayors-arrested-for-political-views">Artsakh Mayors Arrested for Political Views</h1>
<p>Over the past month <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32965946.html">three mayors</a> of Artsakh towns and cities were arrested soon after they met with Bagrat Srbazan, following which they signaled their support for the protesters in Yerevan and around Armenia, who are demanding Pashinyan’s resignation.</p>
<p>The “Investigative Committee” charged the mayors with misappropriating Artsakh government property, specifically municipal cars, by bringing them into Armenia and registering them to their names, or those of friends or family. The charges were denied by the accused, and dismissed as politically motivated, by the former State Minister of Artsakh, Artak Beglaryan.</p>
<p>Let’s discuss some recent and prominent cases.</p>
<ul>
<li>David Sargsyan - Mayor of Stepanakert</li>
<li>Misha Gyurjyan - Mayor of Martakert</li>
<li>Hayk Shamiryan - Mayor of Askeran</li>
<li>
<ul>
<li>Mayor of Martuni</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The charges are fraud and forgery, misappropriation, and illegal registration of property.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do these charges have any merit?
<ul>
<li>Who do these cars belong to and what jurisdiction does the Armenian government have over them?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>After months, why did these charges suddenly come up right after these politicians came out in support of the anti-government protests?</li>
<li>What selective prosecution or double standards can you point to?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="imnimini-podcast">Imnimini Podcast</h1>
<p>Let’s take the case of some journalists:</p>
<ul>
<li>Narek Samsonyan</li>
<li>Vazgen Saghatelyan</li>
</ul>
<p>Back in March the “Investigative Committee” gave Vazgen Saghatelyan and Narek Samsonyan, the co-hosts of the anti-gov <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AntiFakeam">Imnemnimi podcast</a>, two-month pretrial detention on charges of <strong>hooliganism</strong>. If you <a href="https://oc-media.org/armenia-detains-two-podcast-hosts-for-insulting-pashinyan/">recall</a>, the police stormed Samsonyan’s residence early one morning, Narek was slammed down with his face force-scraping the ground while they treated him very roughly. He did not resist arrest, was not armed, and the guy is a journalist. The arrest and brutality were <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2024/04/19/EFJ-UJA/2991715">condemned</a> by the EFJ, the European Federation of Journalists. Saghatelyan’s arrest was not as violent, so he got lucky…</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>It’s been two months since those arrests, is there an update on their status?</li>
<li>Was there any repercussions due to the EFJ condemnation?</li>
<li>Earlier in May when the case was coming up to the court’s attention, the judge recused himself, delaying the entire proceeding. Why did he recuse himself?</li>
</ul>
<p>When their 2 month detention period was coming up for review, Samsonyan and Saghatelyan were released under the following conditions:</p>
<ul>
<li>That they can no longer host their own podcast, nor appear as guests on their own podcast, for a period of 3 months</li>
<li>Live appearance was allowed.</li>
</ul>
<p>The judge explicitly said that Samsonyan and Saghatelyan were allowed to “go live” and that right is not limited. And both of the podcasters did a “live”, where they recorded themselves solo, but it was posted on the Antifake channel, the same channel that hosts their podcast. However, just yesterday, we <a href="https://www.aravot.am/2024/06/01/1423585/">learned</a> that the prosecutors have filed a new request with the courts alleging that both of the podcasters had violated the terms of their release. In fact, a new emergency hearing has been scheduled on Monday, June 3 about this.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it constitutional in Armenia for a verdict that curtails a citizen’s right to free expression?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="links-and-references">Links and References</h2>
<ul>
<li>Red Berets
<ul>
<li>Anna Mkrtchyan (MP) being harassed by red berets
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/YerevanKnights/status/1797345648666173907">https://x.com/YerevanKnights/status/1797345648666173907</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Haykaz Jomardyan (head of red berets) threatening a journalist
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ZalkW0wsA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ZalkW0wsA</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GLSVeufxY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GLSVeufxY</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMWDWTILd-Q">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMWDWTILd-Q</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>MFA <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ftP8B0s1Q">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ftP8B0s1Q</a></li>
<li>US Embassy with Aram Hovhannisyan <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/hy/2024/05/24/1/1130195">https://www.1lurer.am/hy/2024/05/24/1/1130195</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/667581/armenia-backtracks-on-criminalizing-grave-insults/">https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/667581/armenia-backtracks-on-criminalizing-grave-insults/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/590234/as-armenia-raises-libel-penalties-civil-society-warns-of-chilling-effect/">https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/590234/as-armenia-raises-libel-penalties-civil-society-warns-of-chilling-effect/</a></li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Spotlight on Silence</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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Episode 335 | Recorded: June 10, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="peace-treaty-and-more-aliyev-demands">Peace Treaty and More Aliyev Demands</h2>
<p>In the past week there have been public exchanges between Armenian and Azerbaijani government officials. Aliyev stated that without changing the Armenian constitution there can be no peace. Mirzoyan replied that the best way to proceed would be to sign the “peace treaty” within the next month, we assume June or July. He said that the Armenian constitution was an internal matter, and the treaty included language that would preclude domestic law from breaching one party’s obligations to the other.</p>
<p>We can see that almost 4 years after the 44-day war, Aliyev brings new demands to the table, while Pashinyan’s job remains to essentially socialize the demands with the Armenian public, and execute them without losing power. This week’s demands:</p>
<ul>
<li>Changes in the Constitution - again</li>
<li>Apology for the so-called “Khojali genocide”</li>
<li>And he wanted Armenia and Azerbaijan to apply together to dissolve the OSCE Minsk Group</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Mirzoyan responded strongly to Aliyev’s demand to chuck the Armenian constitution, but did not respond to the OSCE MG demand. This seems like an important omission, what are your thoughts about it?
<ul>
<li>Note: does it mean that there is implicit agreement about the OSCE MG?</li>
<li>What does the OSCE MG represent within the context of international process and law, regarding Artsakh? What would its dissolution mean?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>In this latest round of public back and forth, the so-called “Zangezur corridor” was not raised. Has that issue gone away?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="james-obrien-in-yerevan">James O’Brien in Yerevan</h2>
<p>The State Department’s man to the South Caucasus, James O’Brien, arrives today in Yerevan for two days of meetings with high level officials for “comprehensive discussions” on issues of US support for progress toward a peace agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the use of the Alma Ata Declaration as a basis for the border demarcation process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is James O’Brien in Yerevan at this point in time, and what are his main topics of interest with Pashinyan, Mirzoyan, etc?</li>
<li>Why is there a special reference to the demarcation process and using Alma Ata as its basis?
<ul>
<li>Who has a problem with it? Why?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-russia">Relations With Russia</h2>
<p>In the past week Armenia’s ambassador to Ukraine, Vladimir Karapetyan, and Tigran Ter-Margaryan, head of Nor Nork, a Yerevan district, went to Bucha and made statements, and delivered some humanitarian aid to local hospitals. The Russian MFA was quick to respond to the statements of the Armenian officials, and the following day Moscow sent an <a href="https://news.ru/vlast/zaharova-mid-rf-napravil-notu-protesta-v-mid-armenii-posle-vizita-v-buchu/">official note</a> of protest to the Armenian government.</p>
<p>Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Galuzin <a href="https://www.aravot.am/2024/06/05/1424267/">said</a> that Armenia is refusing to cooperate at the level of MFA and Defense Ministers, and that its thoughtless steps may make it impossible to return to joint work with Russia and other CSTO countries towards the creation of a common defense area.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the Armenian government’s motivations for these latest events, and where does it put the current state of relations between the countries?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s government has appointed Gurgen Arsenyan, a Civil COntract oligarch, as the next ambassador to Russia, but Russia has delayed its approval of his appointment.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Gurgen Arsenyan an appropriate appointment?</li>
<li>Arsenyan is replacing Vagharshak Harutynyan. How should we assess Harutyunyan’s tenure?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement">Srbazan Movement</h2>
<h3 id="rally-on-sunday">Rally on Sunday</h3>
<p>Sunday, yesterday evening, was the most recent of the large gatherings called by Bagrat Srbazan in Yerevan. While the authorities are making every possible effort to distract from the popular movement and the discontent with the government’s policies, the Srbazan movement is continuing to gather steam.</p>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan has stated some of the goals of the movement for when they gain power. First of all: regime change is a goal, and the movement has named him as their PM designate; forming a provisional government of national unity; and holding free elections.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Impressions from the rally?</li>
<li>Are the necessary conditions and atmosphere present for the Srbazan Movement to succeed?</li>
<li>Unlike in 2018, the current government seems mostly acceptable to foreign powers, and none are interested in regime change. Do you agree?</li>
<li>The US and EU governments have flat-out ignored the police brutality towards protesters. How do you explain this attitude from the (self-selected) champions of human rights and democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Active remorse now applies to corruption and other grave crimes, to the benefit of Civil Contract circles.</li>
<li><strong>Anna</strong>: EU parliamentary results seem to indicate that EU policies do not match the will of their people.</li>
</ul>
<p>h</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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Episode 334 | Recorded: June 3, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="heavy-rainstorms-flood-northern-armenia">Heavy Rainstorms Flood Northern Armenia</h2>
<p>During the weekend of May 25-26, a severe rainstorm <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32964179.html">flooded</a> large swaths of the Lori and Tavush regions in the north of Armenia. Roads and highways were flooded and closed; over a dozen bridges were damaged, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32965814.html">stranding</a> thousands of residents. Both national highways that lead to the Georgian border, as well as the railway were also inoperable. The death toll so far is 4 people.</p>
<p>After the storms passed the government declared a number of the villages and towns a disaster zone and allocated around $1 million to recovery efforts, and also called out for citizen volunteers to help, and said it would <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32972574.html">ask for international aid</a> to help with the reconstruction.</p>
<p>The Russian Railway company has already started <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1138492.html">repairing</a> the damaged railways, as reported on May 31. Iran’s acting FM Ali Bagheri Kani offered to help the affected regions recover from the floods.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you assess the government response to the floods?</li>
<li>Why was Georgia able to evacuate its citizens earlier than Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="srbazan-movement-church-and-state">Srbazan Movement; Church and State</h2>
<h3 id="bagrat-srbazan-vs-pashinyan">Bagrat Srbazan vs. Pashinyan</h3>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan continued his protest movement on the streets in Yerevan. This week, the theme of his activities was to demand answers from various ministers over injustices. On Monday, May 27 he was at the Ministry of Internal Affairs and demanded to meet with the minister, Pashinyan’s childhood school friend, Vahe Ghazaryan, in order to demand answers about police behavior towards protesters. On May 30 the protest <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32972298.html">immobilized</a> the main Government building and Republic Square, forcing government members to leave the buildings from back entrances. On May 31st, Bagrat Srbazan’s movement <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32974131.html">surrounded</a> the building of the Armenian <a href="https://168.am/2024/05/31/2052831.html">MFA</a>, demanding answers from Ararat Mirzoyan. The standoff with the police resulted in clashes, with dozens arrested, including deacons of the church.</p>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan also met with Gagik Tsarukyan, reportedly to discuss assistance for the flood victims of the rainstorms in the north.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Most of the opposition in Armenia is united in supporting Bagrat Srbazan. Where does he go from here? The movement has stated that the resignation of the current government is one of their goals. How can they achieve this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyan-vs-church">Pashinyan vs. Church</h3>
<p>In the afternoon of May 28, Pashinyan took revenge on Catholicos Garegin II. When the Catholicos approached the Sardarabad memorial with his entourage, he was met with 3 lines of police, supported by Pashinyan’s security detail, blocking their entrance. The embarrassing incident was <a href="https://168.am/2024/05/28/2051434.html">recorded</a>, and the Catholicos was eventually successful in honoring the memory of Sardarabad, independence, and offering prayers to the nation.</p>
<p>Pashinyan later himself <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32970951.html">chimed in</a> about the incident, saying that his team wanted to make sure in what capacity the Catholicos was planning on being at Sardarabad. Whether he was planning on simply laying flowers and praying, or whether the Catholicos would conduct “disruptive and provocative” actions like Bagrat Srbazan. Pashinyan also accused the Catholicos of directing Bagrat Srbazan’s movement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this development?</li>
<li>Regardless of the disagreements, is it a good idea for Pashinyan to attack the church so openly?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-developments">Geopolitical Developments</h2>
<h3 id="armenia---azerbaijan-peace-treaty">Armenia - Azerbaijan “Peace Treaty”</h3>
<p>Objective facts are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian POWs are still in Baku</li>
<li>Azerbaijan is H traces of Armenians in Artsakh</li>
<li>Azerbaijan will get enclaves inside Armenia, if the logic of 1976 maps is extended</li>
<li>Azerbaijan demands a corridor through Armenia</li>
<li>Azerbaijan says that Armenia must change its constitution</li>
<li>Azerbaijan is sponsoring “Western Azerbaijan” concept</li>
<li>Aliyev has demanded that Armenia recognize and apologize for the so-called “Khojaly Genocide”</li>
<li>We’re not even talking about the “return” of Azerbaijanis to Armenia</li>
</ul>
<p>Yet, Pashinyan this week <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32971103.html">downplayed</a> major differences, saying that “The key principles are agreed upon, we just need to reproduce that in the text of the peace treaty”.</p>
<p>What we know is that Pashinyan has agreed to exclude the demarcation and delimitation as well as the status of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What will a neutered “Peace Treaty” give Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s buzzword is legitimacy. He says that a peace treaty will give Armenia “legitimacy”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is this intangible legitimacy that he’s talking about?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-rights-and-security-of-artsakhtsis">The Rights and Security of Artsakhtsis</h3>
<p>Vardan Oskanian, former FM of Armenia, says that even in this situation there is a solution for the rights of Artsakhtsis. Yet, he doesn’t reveal his cards.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>As a negotiator, what is in the realm of the possible in terms of the rights and security of Artsakhtsis?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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<h2 id="iran-president-and-fm-killed-in-helicopter-crash">Iran President and FM Killed in Helicopter Crash</h2>
<p>On Sunday May 19, Iran’s president Ebrahim Raisi, foreign minister Amir Hussein Abdollahian and 7 other staff members perished in a helicopter crash near Iran’s border with Azerbaijan. They were returning from <a href="https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/05/19/725853/Iranian-president,-Azeri-counterpart-inaugurate-Qiz-Qalasi-border-dam-">inaugurating a dam</a> on the Arax river with Ilham Aliyev.</p>
<p>There was a worldwide outpouring of condolences from the UN and most countries around the world on the deaths of the Iranian leaders.</p>
<p>Reportedly President Raisi was going to <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/145316">visit</a> Armenia on May 19, but that was postponed. Raisi and Abdollahian were leading architects of Iran’s policies and red lines towards Armenia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, as well as Iran’s relations with Russia.</p>
<p>Iran had a clear succession plan, and the acting president and foreign minister were appointed immediately.</p>
<p>On Friday Iran’s military reported in its preliminary <a href="https://www.rt.com/news/598160-irans-unveils-raisi-crash/">investigation</a> into the crash that no foul play was evident in the accident.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>On June 28 Iran will hold presidential elections. Can you discuss Iran’s internal dynamics in this presidential race? Could there be changes to Iran’s policies and red lines regarding Armenia? Can Armenia do anything during the coming month to improve outcomes for itself?</li>
<li>Could there be changes to Iran’s policies towards INSTC, which enables Armenia’s relations with India?</li>
</ul>
<p>Iran’s Supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei is 85, so in addition to the presidential elections, there has been talk about the Supreme Leader’s succession plan, because President Raisi was considered a leading candidate to succeed him.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Khamenei’s succession imminent? Could it lead to a dramatic shift in Iran’s foreign policies, be it towards the Middle East, the South Caucasus, Russia, the West, the JCPOA, etc?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="bagrat-srbazan-leads-mass-protests">Bagrat Srbazan Leads Mass Protests</h2>
<h3 id="huge-crowds-amidst-repressions-and-official-handover-of-land">Huge Crowds Amidst Repressions and Official Handover of Land</h3>
<p>Yesterday (Sunday May 26), Bagrat Srbazan commenced a new <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32964356.html">rally</a> and similar to May 9, tens of thousands gathered. In his address, he took direct aim at Pashinyan and his government, calling for their resignation. The movement has also chosen Bagrat Srbazan as its PM nominee, and he has requested from the Catholicos to freeze his position as a Primate of the Tavush Diocese, in order to take part in this movement. To be clear he still remains a clergy of the Armenian Church, except that he doesn’t hold the primate position.</p>
<p>The movement started civil disobedience and the government is using increasingly heavier tactics to disperse the crowds, arresting hundreds of people. Just today, Monday May 27, they arrested at least 285 people. There are video clips online how the police brutally beat protesters, including members of parliament. Despite parliamentary immunity, one member of parliament, Ashot Simonyan, was also taken into custody.</p>
<p>He was released soon thereafter but the videos of him being surrounded by tens of “red berets” who deliver blows to him mercilessly.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where do you see the movement heading from here? We know that there were some issues, including a potential constitutional problem since he has dual Armenia-Canada citizenship. Do you think that choosing Bagrat Srbazan as PM nominee was the right move?</li>
<li>How should the movement achieve its goals, such as regime change?</li>
<li>In addition to the current government, are there technical or constitutional hurdles that need to be overcome for Bagrat Srbazan to become PM?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="land-handover">Land Handover</h3>
<p>Despite the protests, last week <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32962427.html">Azerbaijan took control</a> of the border areas that Pashinyan conceded unilaterally. Azerbaijan did not return any of the land that was considered Armenian on the very maps that the two sides were referring to.</p>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan’s Tavush for the Homeland movement protested these concessions vigorously throughout May, but were not able to stop the government from proceeding.</p>
<p>On Thursday Pashinyan gave another rambling <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1137917.html">address</a> to the nation, justifying his small vision of our nation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Since the Armenian-Azerbaijani talks basically appear to be step-by-step capitulations to Aliyev’s demands, what comes next after the Tavush giveaways?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="political-prisoners--repression">Political Prisoners &amp; Repression</h3>
<ul>
<li>3 mayors of Artsakh arrested</li>
<li>People close to Bagrat Srbazan arrested</li>
<li>Narek Samsonyan and Vazgen Saghatelyan released on bail but their free speech rights are curtailed
<ul>
<li>They can’t host their podcast</li>
<li>They can’t be guests on their own podcast</li>
<li>They can’t host any other podcast</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-russian-relations">Armenian Russian Relations</h2>
<p>Armenia’s relations with Russia and the CSTO continued their downfall this week. In the past month there’s been a flurry of bilateral summits: Aliyev was in Moscow, then Pashinyan visited Moscow, then Lukashenko was in Baku a week ago, and finally this past Thursday Putin was in Minsk for an unannounced visit.</p>
<p>While in Azerbaijan, Aliyev took Lukashenko to occupied Artsakh where the latter lavished him with praise, and called the 44-day war Azerbaijan’s “war of liberation”. Lukashenko also “revealed” that there is a “plan for the Caucasus” which he has discussed with Putin.</p>
<p>When asked about this on Wednesday, Pashinyan made a <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/824834.html#google_vignette">sensational announcement</a>, that two CSTO countries, which he refused to name, conspired with Azerbaijan against Armenia, in preparation for the 2020 war.</p>
<p>On Friday, Russia <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/foreignpolicy/54860/">recalled</a> its ambassador from Armenia, although it wasn’t clear if it was related to the announcement. \</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Let’s begin with the last news. Why did Russia recall its ambassador?</li>
<li>Security issues were on the Putin-Aliyev summit agenda in Moscow, but not on Pashinyan’s. How are Russia’s security relations with the South Caucasus evolving?</li>
<li>In Moscow, Pashinyan requested that Russian border guards be removed from Armenia, and Putin agreed. Did he ask for removal from ALL borders?</li>
<li>How will this affect Armenia’s security? Can Armenia defend its own borders?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/333/thumbnail-333.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/333/thumbnail-333.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/15153400-sergei-melkonian-on-iran-helicopter-crash-bagrat-srbazan-movement-and-armenian-russian-relations-ep-333-may-26-2024.mp3" length="36807973" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3065</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Archil Sikharulidze - Georgian Law on Foreign Agents | Tavush Movement in Armenia | Parallels in Foreign Influence | Ep 332 - May 26, 2024
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Episode 332 | Recorded: May 25, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="georgian-law-on-foreign-agents">Georgian Law on Foreign Agents</h2>
<p>For the past two months Georgia has been wracked with protests about a so-called bill on “Foreign Agents” which the parliament passed into law last week, and then it was vetoed by president Zourabishvili.</p>
<p>If you follow mainstream media, this law on foreign agents which the west calls a “Russian Law” or “Putin’s Law”, will be catastrophic for Georgia. Interestingly, the US and many other western states have similar laws to protect them against foreign influence. The US for example has FARA, the Foreign Agent Registration Act (which, I think, dates back from before WW2!)</p>
<p>The Georgian parliament has the votes to override the president’s veto, but given the dire warnings from the EU, threatening to end Georgia’s EU membership bid, and the US threatening sanctions and other actions against Georgia, they have to think through their actions carefully.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key sensitivities around this <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/15/georgias-foreign-agents-bill-whats-the-controversy-about-whats-next">law</a>?</li>
<li>Does Georgia need a law on foreign agents? Why?</li>
<li>With <a href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/05/03/georgias-foreign-influence-law-isnt-what-you-think-a85029">thousands</a> of NGOs registered in Georgia, what is your assessment of the effect of foreign-funded NGOs on Georgia’s politics?</li>
<li>Why was the bill brought back now, what is significant about this moment in time?</li>
</ul>
<p>The conflict in Georgia is described as a pro-Gov vs anti-Gov scenario, where the government is described as the pro-Russian side, while the protesters are aligned with The West.</p>
<p>To understand what’s going on, we first need to understand how to characterize Georgia’s current government and ruling party: the Georgian Dream. We should also understand how the opposition is involved, and how they align with the NGOs.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Would you characterize Georgian Dream as a “pro-Russian” party?</li>
<li>How is the Opposition, the UNM, involved in these protests? Is their participation principled, or opportunistic? Or put another way: are they leading the protest wave, or following it?</li>
<li>Is this issue related to coming elections, and how will it affect those elections?</li>
</ul>
<p>Most Armenians don’t think of Georgia as pro-Russian. We actually think that the Georgian government has very adroitly navigated the difficult world geopolitics since the war in Ukraine began, by not antagonizing any of the major powers as much as possible. Unlike Armenia’s government.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Would you agree that Georgia is conducting a very rational foreign policy?</li>
<li>Since Georgia is a candidate for EU membership, and this process is likely to rile up Russia, is it possible that this law on foreign agents was brought up to deliberately slow down, actually further slow down, the EU membership process?</li>
</ul>
<p>Before we finish for today let’s turn our attention to Armenia.</p>
<h2 id="parallels-with-armenia">Parallels with Armenia</h2>
<p>Armenia has been struggling since the 44-day war to regain some modicum of sovereignty. In the past couple of months Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan has led intense anti-government protests to stop Pashinyan from continuing unilateral territorial concessions to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Have you been following the Tavush Movement protests in Armenia? And how do you view the overall struggle between government and opposition?</li>
<li>Do you see any parallels between what’s going on in Georgia and Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Episode 331 | Recorded: May 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="tavush-protests-gain-momentum">Tavush Protests Gain Momentum</h2>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan’s <strong>Tavush for the Homeland</strong> movement has been in Yerevan and escalating acts of civil disobedience for a week now. Tens of thousands are in the streets daily, protesting Pashinyan’s land concessions to Azerbaijan in the Tavush region.</p>
<p>A couple of notable aspects:</p>
<ul>
<li>The pro-gov channels are mum on this, as if nothing is happening in Yerevan or around the country. This is despite the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32948778.html">police cordoning</a> off major areas of downtown Yerevan to keep protesters clear of Pashinyan and his meetings.</li>
<li>The international media is also quiet, although there is some coverage. But if you look at their coverage of protests in Georgia, there is really no comparison..</li>
<li>There is rising police brutality as well as hundreds of arrests. There are <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32947172.html">journalists</a> injured, and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32948578.html">professionals</a> who are being fired for joining the protests. There is no reaction from the west. Again, compare this to their daily coverage with graphic images of Georgians who were injured during protests in Tbilisi.</li>
<li>Bagrat Srbazan has been openly advocating peace and love towards each and every Armenian, including the policemen.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where do you see these protests heading?</li>
<li>As impressive as it is to watch Bagrat Srbazan stay positive and not get angry at Pashinyan, some experts and analysts say that revolutions never take place due to a positive agenda? What do you think about this? Is it possible for Bagrat Srbazan to unseat Pashinyan based on an agenda of reconciliation and solidarity?</li>
<li>Is there an endgame in sight?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are varying opinions on how to successfully achieve regime change. The two main mechanisms are:</p>
<ul>
<li>A vote of no confidence in Parliament</li>
<li>Forcing/pressuring Pashinyan to resign through total protests, the same way Pashinyan came to power in 2018</li>
</ul>
<p>In fact, later in this show we will talk about a recent MPG poll. A question from that poll asked people directly how Pashinyan should be removed. And a majority preferred forcing resignation.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What strategy should they pursue?</li>
</ul>
<p>Today (May 18) Bagrat Srbazan announced a large rally on the following Sunday (May 26). He has promised to reveal their further plans and a detailed program. The following Monday appears to be when things will heat up.</p>
<h3 id="russian-reaction-to-tavush-protests">Russian Reaction to Tavush Protests</h3>
<p>This week, the Russian foreign ministry weighed in on the violations of human rights in Armenian protests. Specifically, Maria Zakharova <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/05/15/West-is-surprising-with-its-stability/1124565">said</a>: <em>“Official representatives of the US and the EU literally attack the Georgian authorities every day regarding their treatment of the protesters, whereas in the context of Armenia, the West is silent.”</em></p>
<p>Hrant, your colleague from <strong>The Armenian project</strong>, <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/eelbakyan">Edgar Elbakyan</a>, reminded us a couple of weeks ago that all politics (for small states) is global. We know the west is supportive of Nikol Pashinyan.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Does the success of the protest movement that wants to remove Nikol Pashinyan depend on sponsorship or legitimacy from world powers, including possibly Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-presses-ahead-with-land-concessions">Pashinyan Presses Ahead with Land Concessions</h2>
<p>Despite the protests, Pashinyan and his ruling circles are <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32949015.html">forging ahead</a> with their plans to give certain Tavush villages to Azerbaijan. The same maps they are using for border delimitation explicitly mark Armenian territories under Azeri control which are not being returned to Armenia in this deal with Azerbaijan and which Pashinyan is conceding unilaterally. This makes the deal unconstitutional, because such a land concession would require a popular referendum.</p>
<p>Kirants village residents continue to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32950207.html">block roads</a> in the region, but it’s clear that the democratic process is completely broken in Armenia. In fact, even the constitutional order is broken.</p>
<p>Just to clarify what is happening: the government of Armenia has recognized these lands and properties as inalienable parts of sovereign Armenia. It has done so by:</p>
<ul>
<li>Recognizing the votes during elections, from citizens registered at those properties</li>
<li>Giving land deeds to citizens, who now find themselves in Azerbaijan</li>
<li>Funding and repairing the strategic N-S highway and recognizing it as critical infrastructure</li>
</ul>
<p>As we just mentioned, under the Armenian constitution any change of hands in property and land must be accomplished through a referendum. Yet, Pashinyan is unilaterally ceding these properties.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What recourse do these citizens have to keep their homes and villages, given that their own government is uprooting them?</li>
<li>Pashinyan says that the border delimitation is based on “the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1137183.html">latest USSR maps</a>” from 1976, which is what the Alma Ata declarations affirm. Does it matter what maps are being used at this point?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="poll-results-on-tavush-protests">Poll Results on Tavush Protests</h2>
<p>The latest poll results from MPG came out just a couple of days ago. Let’s discuss some of the results.</p>
<h3 id="slide-12-if-there-are-parliamentary-elections-next-sunday-which-party-or-alliance-of-parties-will-you-vote-for">Slide 12: If there are parliamentary elections next Sunday, which party or alliance of parties will you vote for?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-12.webp" alt="Who would you vote for?"  title="Who would you vote for?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this the lowest rating of Pashinyan ever?</li>
<li>What needs to be done to move the needle for Bagrat Srbazan’s movement?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-3-how-do-you-assess-bagrat-srbazans-tavush-for-the-homeland-movement">Slide 3: How do you assess Bagrat Srbazan’s <strong>Tavush for the Homeland</strong> Movement?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-3.webp" alt="Assess the Tavush Movement"  title="Assess the Tavush Movement" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan has an overall positive rating of 52.9%. However, a significant portion of respondents (33.5%) responded negatively to this question.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Granted that Bagrat Srbazan’s anti-rating is not as high as Nikol Pashinyan or even opposition leaders such as Robert Kocharyan, how do you explain this result?
<ul>
<li>I ask this in the context that the government has been trying to sling falsified accusations at the Srbazan, for example, that he has 2 sons and he has freed them from mandatory military service.</li>
<li>Is it possible that the propaganda is having an effect in increasing the negative rating of the Srbazan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-4-how-do-you-follow-the-unfolding-events-during-the-tavush-for-the-motherland-movement">Slide 4: How do you follow the Unfolding Events during the &ldquo;Tavush for the Motherland&rdquo; movement?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-4.webp" alt="How do you follow the Tavush Movement"  title="How do you follow the Tavush Movement" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Responses:</p>
<ul>
<li>Social media: 67.6%</li>
<li>Television: 39.3%</li>
<li>Electronic mass-media: 4.8%</li>
<li>Radio: 1.6%</li>
<li>Difficult to respond: 0.2%</li>
<li>Other: 1.6%</li>
<li>I don’t follow the events: 19.7%</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-5-how-have-you-participated-in-the-tavush-for-the-motherland-movement">Slide 5: How have you participated in the &ldquo;Tavush for the Motherland&rdquo; movement?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-5.webp" alt="Have you participated in the movement?"  title="Have you participated in the movement?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>People listed various ways they participated in the movement, from the benign “I am following it on Facebook” to “I closed off streets”. Nearly 72%, however, said that they are not participating.</p>
<h3 id="slide-6-how-do-you-rate-the-behavior-of-the-protesters">Slide 6: How do you rate the behavior of the protesters?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-6.webp" alt="Rate Behavior of Protesters"  title="Rate Behavior of Protesters" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>In summary, 52.1% positive and 37.4% negative. For reference, in 2018, this same pollster asking this same exact question got 98.3% positive.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-2018-slide-6.webp" alt="Same Question in 2018"  title="Same Question in 2018" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What insight, if any, can we draw from these answers? Again, is it right to compare everything to 2018?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-7-how-do-you-evaluate-the-actions-of-the-ra-police-during-the-tavush-for-the-homeland-movement">Slide 7: How do you evaluate the actions of the RA Police during the &ldquo;Tavush for the Homeland&rdquo; movement?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-7.webp" alt="Assess Police Response"  title="Assess Police Response" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>35.8% assess the movement positively, while 46.5% assess it negatively.</p>
<h3 id="slide-8-in-your-opinion-is-it-appropriate-that-the-protesters-are-blocking-roads-and-intersections">Slide 8: In your opinion, is it appropriate that the protesters are blocking roads and intersections?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-8.webp" alt="Should Protesters Block Roads?"  title="Should Protesters Block Roads?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>This is an interesting question. Only 38% responded positively to this question, while 55.7% responded negatively. I think it’s important to recall 2018 again, when 87% of the people responded positively to this same question.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-2018-slide-6.webp" alt="Same Question in 2018"  title="Same Question in 2018" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are people just tired of blocking streets as a way to change government? Is this an appropriate comparison to make?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-9-how-do-you-see-the-method-of-removal-of-nikol-pashinyan">Slide 9: How do you see the method of removal of Nikol Pashinyan?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-9.webp" alt="Method of Removal of Pashinyan"  title="Method of Removal of Pashinyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="slide-10-who-do-you-see-as-the-head-of-the-transitional-government-prime-minister-of-armenia">Slide 10: Who do you see as the head of the Transitional Government/ Prime Minister of Armenia?</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-10.webp" alt="Who should be PM?"  title="Who should be PM?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="slide-11-appreciate-the-work-of-ra-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan">Slide 11: Appreciate the work of RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/331/mpg-srbazan-may24-slide-12.webp" alt="Assess Pashinyan as PM"  title="Assess Pashinyan as PM" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-panelists">Thoughts from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> State Department back to business as usual with Aliyev &amp; Co. See Yuri Kim &amp; Ethnic Cleansing Sept. 2023</li>
<li><strong>Hrant:</strong> Azerbaijan continues to destroy Armenian heritage in Artsakh, Dedicate the next decades to return to Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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Episode 330 | Recorded: May 17, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="introduction-to-sopo">Introduction To Sopo</h2>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Sopo, since it’s your first time on Groong, please tell us more about yourself?</li>
</ul>
<p>You describe yourself as an “old school socialist” and a “unionist”. That is a fascinating profession, as well as self-description.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How did you arrive at such a unique position?</li>
<li>How difficult is it to organize labor in Georgia? Can you give us some examples?</li>
<li>Do you collaborate with counterparts in Armenia or the region for instance? Is there any benefit in sharing knowledge and experience?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ussr-a-common-home-and-history">USSR: A Common Home and History</h2>
<p>Czech author Milan Kundera, in his <strong><em>The Unbearable Lightness of Being,</em></strong> has an interesting sentence which I like to quote frequently. He says: &ldquo;The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Ironically, Kundera was referring to the Soviet domination and influence in his country, where he emphasizes that remembering itself is an act of defiance and a way to remain human.</p>
<p>Of course, when we talk about the Soviet Union, especially if you follow the emphasis of traditional main-line historiography, there’s plenty of negative developments to recall. However, in your podcast, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@reimaginingsovietgeorgia">Reimagining Soviet Georgia</a>, you say that Georgia’s Soviet legacy is not so black and white.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Tell us more. Do you believe that Georgians, and for that matter Armenians, Ukrainians and other former Soviet peoples, have a distorted memory about their common home and history?</li>
<li>What do you remember, when you think about Georgia’s Soviet legacy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="foreign-agent-bill">Foreign Agent Bill</h2>
<p>A year ago in March 2023 the Georgian government introduced a “Foreign Agent” bill in parliament, but a wave of protests forced them to withdraw the bill. Earlier this year the bill was reintroduced, and last week the Georgian Parliament passed it into law. (84/150 votes)</p>
<p>The bill is similar to the US “Foreign Agent Registration Act”, commonly known as FARA. There are similar bills around the EU as well. The Georgian bill mandates that NGOs that receive more than 20% of their funding from foreign sources be registered as organizations “pursuing the interests of a foreign power”. Unlike the US law, the Georgian law doesn’t foresee any criminal punishment, just fines.</p>
<p>It’s hard to cut through all the hype and extreme language around the issue. The government talks about the Maidanization of Georgia; the opponents, which is primarily the west, talks about loss of democracy, Russification, etc. of Georgia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key sensitivities around this <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/15/georgias-foreign-agents-bill-whats-the-controversy-about-whats-next">bill</a>?</li>
<li>Regardless of the polarized hype, is there a necessity for this law?</li>
<li>With <a href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/05/03/georgias-foreign-influence-law-isnt-what-you-think-a85029">thousands</a> of NGOs registered in Georgia, what is your assessment of the effect of foreign-funded NGOs on Georgia’s politics?</li>
<li>Why was the bill brought back now?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-georgian-relations">Armenian-Georgian Relations</h2>
<p>We’ve discussed Armenian Georgian relations with Georgian colleagues earlier this year. Dato Darchiashvili, Archil Sikharuldze. We always like to ask about this: Georgians and Armenians have a huge amount of similarity &amp; affinity with each other. Both are indigenous to the Caucasus area, both are eastern orthodox Christian nations, our elites have intermingled for centuries, and we don’t have a history of enmity.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why are we not better friends and allies and maybe “brother nations”?
<ul>
<li>We are acquaintances, not friends. We are cordial, not warm. Why is this?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why do Georgians consider Russia as their biggest threat?</li>
<li>How do Georgians view Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes.
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Episode 329 | Recorded: May 14, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="bagrat-srbazan-brings-masses-to-the-streets">Bagrat Srbazan Brings Masses To the Streets</h2>
<p>Undoubtedly the biggest story of the past week is the <strong>Tavush for the Homeland</strong> movement led by Bagrat Srbazan. He is the primate of the Tavush DIocese, and started with protests against the government’s unilateral concession of Tavush villages to Azerbaijan. He immediately garnered support from the residents of the villages and the province, and then captured the imagination of the people everywhere in the republic as well as in the diaspora. He has advocated peaceful means in the face of rising police brutality, as the ranks of his supporters have swelled to tens of thousands. Estimates vary, as usual; pro-government sources have estimated a low of 32,000, while other media sources have estimated over 100,000.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why has Bagrat Srbazan been successful when the opposition has failed over the past 4 years?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-great-consolidator">The Great Consolidator</h3>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan has been able to consolidate large swaths of the Armenian political spectrum. He has attracted to his gatherings the likes of Bever, Samvel Babayan, Arman Tatoyan, Vardan Ghukasyan, just to name a few. His supporters include the ARF, both Armenian Catholicoses, and diaspora organizations. The parliamentary opposition, the <strong>Hayastan</strong> and <strong>Pativ Unem</strong> alliances, have also expressed their support for the leader and his movement.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What has brought such a fragmented opposition spectrum together?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="bagrat-srbazan-as-pm">Bagrat Srbazan as PM?</h3>
<p>During the rally on Sunday May 12, Bagrat Srbazan presented <a href="https://www.aravot.am/2024/05/12/1418676/">20 principles</a> to base his movement on consolidation and reconciliation, and for the future Armenian government. There has also been discussions as to who would head such a government, who would be Prime Minister.</p>
<p>But how far can this go? Who will lead Armenia as a PM?</p>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan would of course be the clear choice, and he has said that he would not turn down such a mission if called upon, however there is a problem since he has dual citizenship, and the Armenian constitution (<a href="https://www.president.am/en/constitution-2015/">Article 48.2</a>) stipulates that a candidate for member of parliament must have been a citizen exclusively of Armenia for the previous 4 years.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can Bagrat Srbazan qualify as PM? Is there a path for him to take over as Prime minister?</li>
<li>If not Bagrat Srbazan, then who?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="how-long-will-it-take">How Long Will It Take?</h3>
<p>Bagrat Srbazan gave Pashinyan one hour to resign during his rally, and upon Pashinyan’s refusal he called on the Armenian people and professionals to begin acts of peaceful, civil disobedience. For example he called for teachers to not hold their classes, and students to strike. He has reassured his followers that victory shall eventually be theirs.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>While Bagrat’s timeline has gone from 1 hour to multiple days, how long do you think the process could take?</li>
<li>Is there a risk of fatigue, if the protests drag on?</li>
<li>Whose side is time and momentum on, at present?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are signs that Turks and Azeris are concerned about Pashinyan’s stability. Azerbaijani media even published reports about possible intervention in Armenia to support Pashinyan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are there concerns about Turkish/Azeri military intervention to support Pashinyan from falling?</li>
<li>Are there international, meaning western, or even Russian, concerns about these domestic developments?</li>
</ul>
<p>Question: Let me play the devil’s advocate here: What would you say to those who follow Pashinyan’s propaganda that Bagrat Srbazan wants to bring war or that any change of power will bring war?</p>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-talks-continue">Armenian-Azerbaijani Talks Continue</h2>
<p>While hundreds have been arrested during these protests, the government-controlled media has comprehensively blocked any news coverage of Bagrat Srbazan’s movement from its channels. During this time Pashinyan visited Moscow, while Mirzoyan went to Almaty.</p>
<p>In Moscow Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32938677.html">met</a> with Putin, and in the following days Russia stated that they would <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32939640.html">withdraw</a> their troops from the Armenian-Azerbaijani border positions.</p>
<p>In Almaty Mirzoyan met with Bayramov and no progress was reported, and “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32942214.html">differences remain</a>”. There were some signs of frustration from the west, as the process seems essentially stalled, with “progress” recorded only through unilateral concessions by Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are the talks stalled, as many believe?</li>
<li>Are the protests in Armenia having an effect on these talks?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Protesters would consider fighting for the homeland an honor, not a punishment.</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Bagrat Srbazan&rsquo;s movement is also about Artsakh. Do not forget Artsakh, keep it alive.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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Episode 328 | Recorded: May 5, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">TOPICS THIS WEEK</h1>
<h2 id="armenia-continues-one-sided-demarcation-under-duress">Armenia Continues One-Sided Demarcation Under Duress</h2>
<p>For the past week and a half there’s been a process of installing border posts in Tavush which Pashinyan’s government is calling “border delimitation and demarcation”. Every couple of days government-controlled media were <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1135979.html">counting up</a> the post installations as a show of a great achievement.</p>
<p>Pashinyan propaganda is presenting this as a success in negotiations. Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1136140.html">says</a> that there is some sort of an undisclosed agreement between the two countries. Opposition meanwhile says that a premature, piecemeal delimitation of the segments of the border that would hurt Armenia the most, is a testament to Armenia’s fully succumbing to Azerbaijani demands and strategy, backed by the threat of military force. In fact, Aliyev gloated that it was his idea to start delimitation/demarcation in Tavush.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, many Western countries congratulated Armenia’s decision to give up lands for alleged peace. Congratulations came from all corners of the West, including the United States, the head of the EU itself. Erdogan congratulated Pashinyan. Even Cyprus congratulated this obvious high stakes threat-laden bargain.</p>
<p>Most of the work seems to be already done, and May 15 is the date after which the border will be considered delimited and demarcated.</p>
<p>** Questions:**</p>
<ul>
<li>Can the current process truly be called “border delimitation and demarcation”?</li>
<li>What’s wrong with delimiting based on Alma-Ata?</li>
<li>Why is the government hiding the output of the delimitation/demarcation work done during the 1980s?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan has invaded and currently occupies Armenian territory. They’ve made no reciprocal moves to vacate occupied Armenian territory, and they haven&rsquo;t even made promises that they will.</p>
<p>While Pashinyan claims the process is giving Armenia “legitimacy”, even traditional pro-Pashinyan civic groups have <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32932537.html">started denouncing</a> these unilateral concessions as unconstitutional and dangerous to national security.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is this “legitimacy” that Pashinyan is talking about?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan has lined up its upcoming demands: changes to the Armenian constitution, national symbols, emblems, coats of arms, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why doesn’t the Armenian government respond to Azerbaijani demands to change the constitution, and national symbols?</li>
<li>What is coming next?</li>
</ul>
<p>With absolutely no leg to stand on, Pashinyan has implicitly agreed to Aliyev’s demands to continue talks bilaterally and without mediators.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did Pashinyan eschew any mediation and instead went for direct bilateral negotiations?</li>
<li>Did Russia and/or Iran congratulate the “deal”?</li>
</ul>
<p>We are talking with Ms. Dziunik Aghajanian, formerly of the Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.</p>
<p>Let’s now move to …</p>
<h2 id="bagrat-srbazan-coming-to-yerevan">Bagrat Srbazan Coming to Yerevan</h2>
<p>The unrest in Tavush has spread, there are continuing anti-government demonstrations and civil unrest by the local population, against conceding their homes and villages to the enemy. They hold continuing vigils throughout the province. The government has dispatched increased police to Tavush, and has arrested and beaten dozens of protesters.</p>
<p>A key figure in the protests has been Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan, leader of the diocese of Tavush.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who is Bagrat Srbazan?
<ul>
<li>Ask Dziunik and Hovik can fill in.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Government-controlled media and personalities have tried to portray Bagrat Srpazan’s followers and movements as “pro-Russians”. Is there any truth to this? Who are the political forces supporting Bagrat Srbazan?</li>
<li>Another key propaganda that Pashinyan media is spreading is that there should be strict separation of church and state. Is that a valid argument in times like this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Fr. Bagrat is planning to take the protests to Yerevan. There is widespread understanding that Armenia’s problems can not be fixed in Tavush, because the culprits, meaning the government, is in Yerevan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s Fr. Bagrat’s strategy? Is there a plan for when they get to Yerevan?</li>
<li>Is the parliamentary opposition on board and participating?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="hungary-blocks-eu-support-for-armenia">Hungary Blocks EU Support for Armenia</h2>
<p>After months of deliberations the EU states had finally agreed to provide aid to Armenia to support its resilience, specifically from its European Peace Fund. This fund is used to support cases like Ukraine and Moldova. But Hungary <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32927800.html">blocked</a> the provision of this aid.</p>
<p>Without rehashing a lot of history, let’s remember that after the brutal <strong>ax murder</strong> of Gurgen Mragaryan during a military training conference in Hungary, his murderer Ramil Safarov was convicted and jailed, but 8 years later Hungary released him to Azerbaijan, and Aliyev turned him into a national hero. Armenia broke off ties with Hungary until recently when Pashinyan dishonorably re-established ties.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>After the reestablishment of ties, how could Hungary play such favorites, especially given the positive disposition of the other 27 states of the EU? Is this a failure of Armenian diplomacy?</li>
<li>If Victor Orban continues to be in Aliyev’s pocket, can Armenia expect any real assistance from the EU, which is set up to require unanimous agreement of its 28 states for just about everything?</li>
<li>Is this bureaucracy one of the ways that the EU promises things to countries like Armenia, but later on does not come through?
<ul>
<li>I mean: is this a planned, or built-in, “failure” within the system?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How should Armenia continue relations with Hungary?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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Episode 327 | Recorded: April 26, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="indian-armenian-relations-in-2024">Indian Armenian Relations in 2024</h1>
<p>Over the past few years, the ties between India and Armenia have been steadily gaining momentum. In a significant move underscoring the importance of their bilateral relationship, India has signaled its plan to assign a defense attaché to its embassy in Armenia. This development highlights the deepening engagement between the two nations.</p>
<p>Notably, both of you Benyamin and Rananjay, participated in the RAISINA 2024 conference held in New Delhi two months ago, seemingly commemorating the strides made in their relations.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the major takeaways from this conference?</li>
</ul>
<p>Rananjay, we first talked with you over two years ago, and even back then the community of Indians in Armenia numbered in the tens of thousands, especially Indian students studying in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you give us a quick update on the status of the community in Armenia? Does the community exist because relations and opportunities are ramping up, or are relations ramping because there is a significant Indian community in Armenia?</li>
<li>Besides students, many of the Indian immigrants in Armenia seem to be focusing on low-skill labor such as delivery and construction. What can be done to drive more high-value migration? For instance, engineers, scientists and business men?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="trade">Trade</h2>
<p>India is a rising superpower on the world stage and is aggressively pursuing influence and partnership around the globe. Besides Armenia, India is heavily investing in relations with African and East Asian countries, and even EU countries such as Poland.</p>
<p>With Armenia, India has certain affinities in industries such as trade, technology, defense and energy, as well as in geopolitical outlook. India’s appointment of a defense attache to its Armenian embassy emphasizes these synergies.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Benyamin, can you tell us how India’s North-South Trade Corridor incorporates Armenia in the route, and how it is coming along? What is going well, what is not?</li>
<li>What are the main areas of cooperation between Armenia and India?</li>
<li>From India’s perspective, is Armenia’s membership in the EAEU seen as a positive benefit? Or would it be preferable if Armenia were a member of a western economic group?</li>
</ul>
<p>Today, Russia and Iran are aggressively partnering with Azerbaijan to build a reliable rail connection from Iran to Russia, the Astara-Rasht-Qazvin rail link. There is also already a rail connection between Astara and the black sea, through Georgia. Given the lack of rail in Armenia and the quality of highways, many experts see Armenia only as a backup to the corridor through Azerbaijan. On many maps of the INSTC corridor, the possibility of Armenia is not even shown!</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How important is the Armenian route for India, Iran and other INSTC proponents, if there is a reliable connection via Azerbaijan? And what is being done by Armenia and India to improve this picture? Could India for instance provide financing to accelerate the construction of roads in Armenia?</li>
<li>Is a rail through Armenia even being considered as a future option for North-South trade?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="defense--security">Defense &amp; Security</h2>
<p>Trade relations often are fundamental to the national interests and security of a country. Implementation and security of the  INSTC between India and Europe for example,  defines relations with Iran, and the South Caucasus countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The key challenge in trading with Iran is the constant US and western sanctions on Iran. Can India help Armenia navigate through these relationships without damaging one or the other?</li>
</ul>
<p>Rananjay, you said that India doesn’t view Azerbaijan as an enemy. Speaking in absolute terms, India’s trade with Azerbaijan is larger than with Armenia. Of course, this is not about pure numbers, but we know that Azerbaijan is very motivated to stop any kind of rearming of Armenia and Aliyev has singled out India already.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does Azerbaijan factor in Armenian-Indian defense cooperation?</li>
<li>How vulnerable is India to Azerbaijani demands?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-cooperation">Political Cooperation</h2>
<p>Armenia’s leadership is executing a significant pivot away from Russia in its fundamental political, economic and trade orientation. Armenia is still heavily reliant on Russia for over a third of its economy, nearly half of its exports, defense architecture and military procurement. This “pivot to the west” has been in full swing since the loss in the 2020 war in Artsakh, and has put Armenia’s national security at great risk.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How can India support Armenia, balance its relations with major powers, and reduce the risks to its security?</li>
<li>Are there other areas besides defense where Armenian-Indian relations can be relevant?</li>
<li>Would a shift to the east for Armenia, including membership in BRICS be considered a good move for Armenia?
<ul>
<li>Is such a “pivot to the east” likely, or possible? (with the current government?)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.</p>
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<p>We’re recording this show on April 24, today is the 109th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. Dozens of countries around the world, including the US, Russia, France have fully recognized this atrocity against humanity and Armenians.</p>
<p>Armenian communities in the diaspora commemorate this day around the world, and I’ve already posted on Groong’s Facebook page dozens of events from everywhere, but nowhere is it more impressive and memorable than in Armenia, where in some years a million people march from Yerevan to Tsitsernakabert, the Genocide monument on a hill outside the capital. Each year there is a giant commemorative torch procession, and gathering in Republic square on the eve of April 24. This year was no exception.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Hovik, Edgar, your impressions of the day’s events?</li>
<li>How was this year different?</li>
<li>How did the government leaders commemorate? I read that it was a “closed event”, with tightly selected journalists only allowed to cover the event.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="erdogan--aliyev-commemorate-the-armenian-genocide">Erdogan &amp; Aliyev “Commemorate” the Armenian Genocide</h3>
<p>Turkish president Erdogan was apparently <a href="https://asbarez.com/buoyed-by-pashinyan-erdogan-urges-yerevan-to-abandon-baseless-memories/">encouraged</a> by Pashinyan and his <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32906284.html">cronies</a> recently parroting classic Turkish Genocide denial, and on the occasion of April 24th, he urged Armenia to “abandon baseless memories” and adopt a more “realistic” path to relations with Turkey, citing a “new order” that Turkey and Azerbaijan are establishing in the region.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, given what’s going on in Tavush, Aliyev was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32917627.html">encouraged</a> by Pashinyan’s free handover of Armenian territories to Azerbaijan and demanded more territories, including the so-called “Zangezur corridor”.</p>
<p>He further <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32917483.html">added</a> that Armenia must stop using Mt. Ararat in its symbols and that changing the Armenian constitution is a precondition to signing a so-called “peace treaty”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this the Pashinyan era of peace?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-cedes-tavush-territories">Pashinyan Cedes Tavush Territories</h2>
<p>Earlier this week Pashinyan’s administration began the process of handing Tavush territories to Azerbaijan. The term for these unilateral concessions is “border demarcation and delimitation”, and as a first post was installed on the border, he posted a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1135482.html">photo</a> of it.</p>
<p>Needless to say, Tavush residents are incensed. Their concerns have not been addressed by the government, and after lip service during a couple of so-called “town hall” meetings, they woke up to the government demining frontline areas, and talking about removing Russia border patrols. The people’s deep distrust in Pashinyan’s government and intentions has led to significant unrest in Tavush and around the country.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Describe what’s going on?
<ul>
<li>What exactly is being given away?</li>
<li>Azerbaijanis say they want 4 villages, Pashinyan’s regime says that they’re only giving 2.5 villages. What about the other 1.5 villages?</li>
<li>What about the enclaves?</li>
<li>What are the dates involved?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Hovik, you were in Tavush less than two weeks ago, what are your impressions of the situation in the region?</li>
<li>What problems do we see arising if this handover proceeds as planned?</li>
<li>What are the Russian border troops doing in Tavush and why does Pashinyan want them out now?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-withdrawing-peacekeepers-from-artsakh">Russia Withdrawing Peacekeepers from Artsakh</h2>
<p>A week or so ago we read that Putin and Aliyev had reached agreement on Russian peacekeepers in Artsakh to leave ahead of the projected November 2025 timeline, and reports indicated that the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32916157.html">withdrawal had begun</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this withdrawal significant, and how?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Anna Hakobyan taking her daughter to Tsitsernakabert for propaganda.</li>
<li><strong>Edgar</strong>: Revenge, revanchism and other terms attributed to Armenians</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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<h2 id="political-persecution-in-armenia">Political Persecution in Armenia</h2>
<p>Rafael, six years have passed since the so-called “Velvet Revolution”. Our impression is that most countries, especially western countries that have human rights on their foreign agenda, pay lip service to “Armenia’s democracy.” But is that really the case?</p>
<p>The organization you’re part of, the Helsinki Committee of Armenia recently issued a <a href="https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Ditord-2023arm.pdf">report</a>, called simply: “Human rights in Armenia, 2023”.</p>
<p>In the report, you focus on several areas, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Judicial system</li>
<li>Freedom of peaceful assembly</li>
<li>Torture and violence</li>
<li>Political persecution</li>
<li>Electoral rights</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us about the areas that your report focuses on?</li>
<li>What do you think about the current state of human rights in Armenia, as reflected in your report?</li>
</ul>
<p>Your report goes into detail about political persecution. We often think of persecution as simply political imprisonment. But that is not the case, right?</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us more about the types of political persecution you’ve examined when preparing your report?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-hate-speech-laws">Armenia’s “Hate Speech” Laws</h2>
<p>Articles 329 and 330 (Old Article 226)</p>
<p>Today let’s talk about three cases of political persecution and political imprisonment that are related to each other. What they have in common is articles 329 and 330 of the <a href="https://foi.am/u_files/file/legislation/CRIMINAL%20CODE%20OF%20THE%20REPUBLIC%20OF%20ARMENIA.pdf">modified criminal code</a> of Armenia, which requalify <a href="https://track.unodc.org/uploads/documents/BRI-legal-resources/Armenia/21_-Criminal_Code_of_RA_2003_-_EN.pdf">article 226</a> of the old code.</p>
<p>The criminal code was modified by the Civil Contract parliament in 2021, during the Covid lockdown period. The existing law on incitement of hate speech (for things such as race) was <a href="https://track.unodc.org/uploads/documents/BRI-legal-resources/Armenia/21_-Criminal_Code_of_RA_2003_-_EN.pdf">amended</a> to include additional categories, including “worldview, political or other views”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us more about this law, what’s the purpose of this law to start with? How have the 2021 amendments changed it?</li>
<li>How tough of a prison sentence does the law prescribe?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="cases">Cases</h2>
<h3 id="samvel-vardanyan">Samvel Vardanyan</h3>
<p>So let’s talk about this first case, which is the most recent, involving Samvel Vardanyan.</p>
<ul>
<li>Samvel Vardanyan was arrested for insulting MP Hakob Aslanyan of the Civil Contract party in Armenia.</li>
<li>Initially <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ArmInvestigative/posts/pfbid02eHotnQ1Vxqv1p2bTUW9Nrr51RkEHVjEg9hrJX1FFi29JkYT18wRQ11KrFL51fBx7l">charged</a> with hooliganism, later with inciting political enmity (262.2).</li>
<li>Altercation captured on video, showing insults and physical confrontation.</li>
<li>Vardanyan was allegedly beaten by masked individuals while in custody.</li>
<li>Lawyers claim the attack occurred while Vardanyan was being escorted by police.
<ul>
<li>Note: apparently the policemen left him alone and went off for some private business, then returned, after the assault.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Vardanyan <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/818176.html#google_vignette">subjected</a> to humiliation and sexual harassment during the beating.</li>
<li>Police officers allegedly complicit in the attack, according to Vardanyan&rsquo;s lawyers.</li>
<li>Rights activists condemn the incident, criticize lack of police reforms.</li>
<li>The Ministry of Internal Affairs launches an anti-corruption investigation, but two days later.</li>
<li>The Human Rights Defender&rsquo;s office calls for the Prosecutor&rsquo;s Office to investigate the case, but again, several days later.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about this case?</li>
<li>What selective prosecution or double standards can you point to?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="narek-malyan">Narek Malyan</h3>
<p>**Ceaușescu case **(ԵԴ/1131/01/21):</p>
<ul>
<li>Directed performance of execution of Nicolae Ceaușescu in 2021</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tert.am/en/news/2021/02/27/malyan/3537834">Charged</a> with public justifying violence (politically motivated)</li>
<li>Exonerated by lower courts in 2023</li>
<li>After appeal, lower court verdict was upheld</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Facebook live on Sep 19</strong> (ԵԴ1/1803/01/23):</p>
<ul>
<li>After the events of Sep 19, 2023 (ethnic cleansing of Artsakh, protests in Yerevan) he allegedly made insults against top Civil Contract leaders and insulted their relatives.</li>
<li>Charged with &ldquo;inciting hatred and intolerance&rdquo;.</li>
<li>According to international norms, calls for inciting violence should create conditions of impending danger for violence.</li>
<li>Detention: Arrested on Sep 20, 2023 and in detention since</li>
<li>On Friday, April 12, a court of first instance in Yerevan <a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/yerevan-court-hands-down-jail-term-to-opposition-activist-narek-malyan/">found</a> that Narek Malyan engaged in “public calls for violence”.</li>
<li>Malyan has been in pre-trial detention since last September and he will serve another 5 months and some days behind bars, according to the sentence.</li>
<li>The key evidence used to prosecute him was edited out of context and the original evidence was not presented in court.</li>
<li><strong>More details:</strong> <a href="https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Ditord-2023arm.pdf">https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Ditord-2023arm.pdf</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about this case?</li>
<li>What selective prosecution or double standards can you point to?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armen-grigoryan">Armen Grigoryan</h3>
<ul>
<li>Armen Grigoryan collapsed and died in a Yerevan courtroom during his trial on July 15, 2022.</li>
<li>Grigoryan had been in pre-trial detention since May 2022 on charges of inciting hatred under Article 226 of the Criminal Code.</li>
<li>Grigoryan&rsquo;s lawyer sought dismissal of the case, claiming no reason for his presence in court.</li>
<li>Authorities stated his lawyers didn&rsquo;t inform them of his medical history or request special treatment.</li>
<li>Opposition raised concerns about Grigoryan&rsquo;s detention conditions and accused the government of killing him.</li>
<li>Grigoryan’s alleged derogatory remarks about certain Armenian regions and their inhabitants contributed to his charges.</li>
<li>Critics claim selective application of laws against opposition members.</li>
<li>Grigoryan&rsquo;s detention occurred amid political tensions and resistance movements.</li>
<li>Former head of National Security Service suggested Grigoryan&rsquo;s year-long freedom without crime should have prevented his detention.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about this case?</li>
<li>What selective prosecution or double standards can you point to?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Spotlight on Silence</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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Episode 324 | Recorded: April 16, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-genocide-denial">Armenian Genocide Denial</h2>
<p>Every week Pashinyan seems to push the envelope on the narratives that challenge historical realities and themes related to Armenian identity. This is done in a way that would put George Orwell to shame.</p>
<h3 id="its-the-russians-fault">“It’s the Russians’ Fault”</h3>
<p>First, he opened the week by giving a “lecture” to students, which he records and shares on Tiktok nowadays, where he essentially blames the Russians (or the Soviets) for repatriating to Armenia descendants of the Armenian Genocide. He further blames Russia for stoking the nascent movement to recognize the Armenian genocide in Soviet Armenia. Of course, during the entire time he does this, he doesn’t actually use the term “genocide” a single time.</p>
<h3 id="challenging-the-15-million-number">Challenging The 1.5 Million Number</h3>
<p>After opening the topic, Civil Contract members and their satellites started flooding the media with narratives meant to question the Genocide as part of the overall narrative of “we should stop pretending that we live in the historic Armenian homeland and limit ourselves to recognizing that we live in the republic of Armenia”.</p>
<p>Civil Contract MP Andranik Kocharyan said that Armenia should work on <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32907554.html">establishing a detailed list</a> of all the victims of the Armenian Genocide and record every single name of the 1.5 million victims. This seems like a good idea right? Who wouldn’t want to recognize each and every victim of the Genocide. Let’s forget for a minute that this government to this date refuses to publish the entire list of Armenains who gave their lives in the 44 day war. Andranik Kocharyan continued by saying that if we don’t record the precise name, address and location of each of the 1.5 million victims, then this may <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32906284.html">give credence to the deniers</a>.</p>
<p>Kocharyan’s statement was received favorably by Diaspora Commissioner Zareh Sinanyan, who said: “I really like what Andranik Kocharyan said. this is the beginning of a scientific approach to genocide recognition.” So in one fell swoop, not only do we need to come up with a list of 1.5 million names and addresses, but apparently also, all the research on the Armenian Genocide today, according to Sinanyan, is not a scientific approach.</p>
<p>NOTE: Let’s remind our listeners that the Turkish government has since the 1960s tried to diminish the total number of deaths and victims in the Armenian Genocide, in classic Genocide denial tactic. Let us also remind our listeners that denying the Armenian Genocide is a crime in some countries of the world and our only intention is to highlight the potential cases of such denial and not to celebrate or perpetuate it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the way that this thesis was brought up by Anrdanik Kocharyan and Zareh Sinanyan problematic? What is problematic about it?</li>
<li>What is the goal of the Pashinyan team in flooding the media field with all these narratives?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-talks">Armenia Azerbaijan Talks</h2>
<p>Ten days ago Pashinyan met with Antony Blinken and Ursula von der Leyen, and since then the Armenian government’s anti-Russian stance has continued. This week Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32898468.html">said</a> that he would not attend a meeting of the CIS, continuing the government’s trend to boycott meetings of Russian-led alliances like the CSTO and the EAEU.</p>
<p>In Parliament Pashinyan described the state of negotiations behind closed doors. All we know is that both opposition parties, Hayastan and Pativ Unem, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32898468.html">said</a> afterwards that their fears were confirmed that there are no real negotiations, or border discussions, only efforts to manipulate the Armenian public to accept further capitulations to new Azeri demands.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you summarize the current state of the Armenian Azeri talks?</li>
<li>Is the situation as dire as the parliamentary opposition is saying it is?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="on-the-western-front">On the Western Front</h3>
<p>Since the high-level US-EU-Armenia meeting, US Ambassador Kristina Kvien said in a recent <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32901200.html">interview</a> that the US and Armenia have very active defense and security cooperation. This goes a little beyond the previously <a href="https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/apr-05-2024-us-enhances-support-armenia-us-eu-high-level-meeting">released</a> “boosting Armenia’s resilience” statements after the meeting.</p>
<p>At the same time, the Armenian government has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1134605.html">announced</a> that it will appoint a defense attache to its embassy in London.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are there serious collaborations going on that are not transparent to the people of Armenia, or are these PR statements to boost support for Pashinyan’s government?</li>
<li>Where are these relations headed?</li>
<li>Is there any reason to believe that Armenia’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32879753.html">desire to remove</a> Russia from its border guard duties in Zvartnots airport, and perhaps everywhere else as well, may be related to the desire to import western defense resources into the country?</li>
</ul>
<p>Over the weekend we read in an exclusive expose in the Times, that the UK would like Armenia to <a href="https://tass.com/world/1775215">sign an agreement</a> similar to what they have <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-61782866">signed with Rwanda</a> to accept their illegal migrants. The Times article mentioned that Armenia began the negotiations with the UK last September. We also know that in <a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2023/11/14/js_uk/12328">November</a>, Armenia was visited by a high ranking delegation from the UK in order to begin a “strategic dialogue” with Armenia. The Armenian MFA <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32905939.html">did not deny</a> that this topic has been discussed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the dangers of this type of a deal? Is it a good idea for Armenia to even pretend to be interested?</li>
<li>Why are we hearing about this from leaks in the UK press and not the government in Armenia?</li>
<li>Is it possible that the UK is making defense cooperation, this so-called “strategic dialogue” with Armenia conditional upon accepting a migrant deal, which has been largely rejected by many countries, as well as the ECHR and other courts?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-amidst-conflicts">Iran Amidst Conflicts</h2>
<p>Over the weekend Iran launched a large wave of drones coupled with ballistic missiles against Israel, marking the first time Iran has used its own territory in such an attack. It is important to highlight that Iran said its actions were in response to Israel’s attack on the Iranian consulate in Syria by Israel on April 1, which resulted in deaths of military leadership.</p>
<p>At the same time Iran telegraphed its intention for weeks. Iran gave plenty of notice of this slow moving, “<a href="https://168.am/2024/04/14/2026462.html">massive attack</a>” that took according to CNN 5 hours to journey from Iran to Israel, over Iraqi and Jordanian airspace.</p>
<p>Israel claims that <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/middleeast/iran-israel-attack-drones-analysis-intl/index.html">hardly any damage</a> was done to targets within the country, while Iranian sources claim that despite support from US, British, and Jordanian air defenses, Iranian missiles were able to penetrate highly sensitive military targets in Israel.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How serious was this retaliation by Iran?</li>
<li>What was Iran’s message with this operation? Who was it aimed at?</li>
<li>Do you believe that Israel will retaliate?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-armenian-view">The Armenian View</h3>
<p>Iran <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32898562.html">continues to warn</a> the Armenian government against turning the country into a geopolitical football field for non-regional powers,</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Is Iran too busy with Israel to defend its red lines in the South Caucasus?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How should Armenia react to the potential of escalation in this conflict?</p>
<p>Note: Pashinyan rejected this during his parliamentary appearance and said that for all of the last 30 years Armenia was an object of geopolitical games, and that he was trying to put a stop to it. He mentioned the OSCE MG, with co-chairs France, Russia and the US, as a manifestation of those geopolitical games.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-prisoners">Political prisoners</h2>
<p>In Armenia, the so-called “bastion of democracy”, two political prisoner cases made the news this week.</p>
<h3 id="armen-ashotyan-case">Armen Ashotyan case</h3>
<p>First, Armen Ashotyan’s pre-trial detention was extended by another 3 months last week.</p>
<p>This case has been criticized by international organizations:</p>
<ul>
<li>The IDC-CDI has condemned Ashotyan’s detention, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/IDCCDIInternational/posts/pfbid0AAD377h2gDPsSyuVhkYPcqBYoU4YXUWSQaTGWANLCKVkbqHVQs7XuZ4fq4em3Deyl">calling it</a> “politically motivated”.</li>
<li>The European People’s Party has also spoken out against Ashotyan’s detention, which lacks “substantial evidence” <a href="https://www.epp.eu/files/uploads/2023/11/Political-Prisoners.pdf">in their words</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>Ashotyan maintains his innocence.</p>
<ul>
<li>One hint that this is a politically motivated double-standard is that none of the intermediaries that are accused to have helped Ashotyan are under arrest. Only he is.</li>
<li>Another glaring hint is that the entire parliamentary opposition went to the courtroom to provide personal guarantees in order to release Ashotyan on bail. Yet, “no luck”.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, in a clear example of double standards, most Civil Contract members gave guarantees to Alen Simonyan’s sister in law, who was promptly released on bail.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="narek-malyan-case">Narek Malyan case</h3>
<p>On Friday, a court of first instance in Yerevan <a href="https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/yerevan-court-hands-down-jail-term-to-opposition-activist-narek-malyan/">found</a> that Narek Malyan engaged in “public calls for violence”. Malyan has been in pre-trial detention since last September and he will serve another 5 months and some days behind bars, according to the sentence.</p>
<p>The key evidence used to prosecute him was edited out of context and the original evidence was not presented in court.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ashotyan and Malyan are the most prominent of such cases of opposition members being jailed amidst allegations of political motivations. Do you believe that the Pashinyan regime is prosecuting opposition members in a politically motivated manner?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-participants">Topics from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Western diplomats in Armenia, please attend court trials, and ask why Armenia has political prisoners today? Ust like Svitalsky who used to call Naira Zohrabyan every occasion to ask explicitly about the status of political prisoners.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Artsakh ethnic cleansing was a second genocide, we need to learn from our history in order to move forward.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong>: Continuing government apathy, unaccountability and irresponsibility in the face of mounting <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32903050.html">non-combat deaths and injuries</a> in the Armenian military</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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Episode 323 | Recorded: April 8, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="trilateral-us-eu-armenia-meeting">Trilateral US-EU-Armenia Meeting</h2>
<p>Onn April 5 between the US, the EU and Armenia held a Trilateral meeting. Pashinyan met with Anthony Blinken and Ursula von der Leyen on Friday and <a href="https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/news/joint-eu-us-armenia-high-level-meeting-support-armenias-resilience-2024-04-05_en">agreements</a> were signed for a combined $350 million aid package aimed at the “ resilience of the Armenian economy”.</p>
<p>This meeting was very loudly denounced by both Azerbaijan’s Aliyev, as well as the Russian MFA, despite assurances on the part of the participants that the talks were not aimed, or against Azerbaijan or Russia, Both Blinken and von der Leyen called Aliyev and emphasized that no Armenian security issues were being discussed. But these assurances did not correspond to their perceptions, and after the meeting Aliyev escalated tensions along the Armenian-Azerbaijani border with shootings along the border.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the purpose of this meeting, and what does “Armenia’s resilience” mean?</li>
<li>There are different reads on the aid package. Some analysts think that because the west is using the Turkish-Azeri language of “<a href="https://168.am/2024/04/06/2022348.html">corridor</a>” in pressuring Armenia to agree to opening Syunik to Azerbaijan, that this aid amounts to an institutionalized bribe to the Armenian government to consent. What do you think of this perspective?</li>
<li>Why is Aliyev so pissed off about this meeting, what outcomes is he expecting from it that could be negative for Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Why is Russia so upset at this meeting, as to <a href="https://emeatribune.com/russia-warns-of-negative-consequences-after-230m-armenia-eu-deal/">warn</a> Armenia about the aid package?
<ul>
<li>They hinted that Armenia is following the example of Ukraine, and that the west is deceiving Armenia with aid packages that were “irresponsible and destructive”.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="talks-with-azerbaijan">Talks with Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>Meanwhile the talks with Azerbaijan continue to be stalled. Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32894618.html">stated</a> over the weekend that there are two major sticking points between Armenia and Azerbaijan:</p>
<ol>
<li>Azerbaijan does not recognize Armenia’s sovereignty per the 1991 Alma-Ata declarations.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan is not interested in border delimitation, based on those borders.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What has the Pashinyan regime achieved in 3.5 years of so-called “negotiations” with Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="now-tavush-more-secret-pashinyan-promises">Now Tavush: More Secret Pashinyan Promises</h3>
<p>Somewhere along the line after the 44-day war, the so-called “negotiations” became about Armenian territory, rather than about Artsakh. Even though the November 9, 2020 agreement said that all sides must stay on the line of contact as per November 9, Pashinyan had promised to give up a lot more than he admitted to the people of Armenia. Karvajar, Berdzor, all of Artsakh, a section of the Goris-Kapan road, and now it’s apparent that he may have also promised sections of Tavush.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>On what basis is Pashinyan saying that the four villages in Armenia are Azerbaijani territory, especially when the Azerbaijani side has not agreed on a basis for border discussions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-russia-in-free-fall">Relations with Russia in Free Fall</h2>
<p>A week ago the Armenian government <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32883676.html">banned</a> the Russia-1 TV station in Armenia, for offensive political content. A couple of weeks ago Pashinyan asked the Russian border guards to leave Zvartnots airport, so that date now is set for August 1st. Now there’s escalating talk about the Russian border guards around Armenia and also the base in Gyumri. The Russian MFA has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32883732.html">warned</a> that Russian military presence in Armenia is the only real guarantee of Armenia’s sovereignty, and that relations between the two countries are on the verge of <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32881614.html">collapse</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you summarize the current state of this relationship, and where it’s headed?</li>
<li>Are Russian border guards a hurdle for Armenia in its effort to ramp up military cooperation with western countries, including India?</li>
<li>A couple of weeks ago <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32868991.html">Armenian banks cut off Russian credit cards</a> from their processing system. Why, and what could be the consequences of such a move?
<ul>
<li>What effect will this have on remittances, and also tourism, from Russia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-suppressing-artsakh-leadership">Pashinyan Suppressing Artsakh Leadership</h2>
<p>In the middle of March “hundreds” of Artsakhtsis demonstrated in Yerevan because <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32870589.html">the government has not been allocating necessary aid</a> appropriately, but more specifically, it hasn’t been seeking or pursuing their right of return to their homeland.</p>
<p>Artsakh president Samvel Shahramanyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32883592.html">confirmed</a> that the declaration of dissolution of the Artsakh government had no merit or basis, and that his government continues to exist in exile. Pashinyan was pissed off and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32881240.html">warned</a> that such statements serve Russian interests, and they threaten the security of Armenia.</p>
<p>Artak Beglaryan, a former state minister of Artsakh, correctly stated that Pashinyan is threatening the Artsakh leadership, and no actions against them can be excluded.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>First, let’s not forget that there are 150,000 Artsakh refugees in Armenia, a result of 3.5 years of forced ethnic cleansing by Azerbaijan. What’s their condition in Armenia?</li>
<li>What&rsquo;s going on with the aid?</li>
<li>Why is Pashinyan so adamant on silencing the Artsakh leadership?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: The EU Mission: See no evil, hear no evil, are they just a PR stunt?</li>
<li><strong>Anna</strong>: When Western leaders are silent on Pashinyan&rsquo;s failures in democracy, trust in them erodes.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<h1 id="the-european-union-mission-in-armenia">The European Union Mission in Armenia</h1>
<p>Dr. Ritter, you have a rich career as a law enforcement official and reading your bio, we learned that you have also participated in five international deployments. Since this is your first visit to our podcast, and hopefully not the last, would you mind telling our listeners a little more about your background?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did you choose this career?</li>
<li>How did you come across the opportunity to participate in international deployments?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mission-details">Mission Details</h2>
<p>The EU mission recently <a href="https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/civilian-operations-commander-visits-armenia-1st-euma-anniversary_en?s=410283">celebrated</a> its one year anniversary in Armenia. It was established in February 2023 and has a mandate that lasts 2 years. Having recently announced Full Operational Capacity, the mission has six Forward Operating Bases (FOBs) in Kapan, Goris, Jermuk, Yeghegnadzor, Martuni, and Ijevan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you give us a more detailed summary of the goal of the EU observer mission in Armenia?</li>
<li>Has the EUMA been effective in reaching its goal?</li>
<li>Do you see an end to the mission, or do you expect its mandate to be re-upped?</li>
<li>What does the average operational day of the EUMA look like?</li>
</ul>
<p>The EUMA is deployed inside Armenia, observing the border with Azerbaijan. This means that there is some kind of a de-facto border that is being watched.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the border that the EUMA is observing based on?</li>
<li>Is there an understanding of such a border between Armenia and Azerbaijan? What is that understanding?</li>
<li>What technologies and tools does the EUMA use? Are satellite data and imagery part of the toolkit?
<ul>
<li>Whose data do they use? Do they share it with anyone else?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Since its establishment, there has been some controversy around the operations of the mission, specifically related to reporting structure. It was a surprise to the journalist and analyst community that reports issued by the EUMA may not be public.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what sort of reports the EUMA generates?</li>
<li>How frequently? Who receives them?
<ul>
<li>EU?</li>
<li>Government of Armenia?</li>
<li>Government of Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are the reports available to the public, or the media?
<ul>
<li>Why? Or why not?</li>
<li>Is there a precedent for peacekeeping or monitoring missions with a secret, or at least non-public, structure?
<ul>
<li>For example, the Russian peacekeeping unit in Nagorno Karabakh used to publish daily reports.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The EUMA has limited resources. Basically currently 100 people with plans to grow to 200, in teams of 2, patrolling over 1,000 kilometers of border. So clearly they can’t be everywhere all the time. We have read that the EUMA communicates its planned observations to both the Armenian as well as Azerbaijani sides. The EUMA has never observed any of the incidents that have claimed the lives of Armenian border guards.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why does the Azerbaijani side need to be informed?
<ul>
<li>What information do they pass along to Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>How much lead time do you need to give to Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What information is passed along to the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<p>In February 2023, shortly before opening of the mission, Pashinyan, in a <a href="https://twitter.com/Aeternum7/status/1623329532173250562">speech</a> to the parliament, said that part of the goal of the EUMA is to “make sure that #Armenia and #Russia are not planning to attack #Azerbaijan.&quot; We recall that Azerbaijan tried to convince the EU that they were concerned that this could happen.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would the EUMA “prove” this? And is it part of its duties to do so?</li>
</ul>
<p>Turkey has been largely silent on the presence of western observers in Armenia, but Iran and Russia, and in fact Azerbaijan, have been very explicitly negative on the presence of the EUMA. They believe that regional issues should be resolved by regional players. Iran has also said that they do not trust the western observers because they don’t know what the mission is doing.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you respond to Iran, or how would you tell them that contrary to their assertions that you are a destabilizing force, you are in fact a stabilizing force in the region?</li>
<li>Does the mission observe the Armenian-Iranian border?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan has asked the Russian border guards at Zvartnots airport to leave. He has also frozen activities within the CSTO. It is understood that Pashinyan is pivoting Armenia’s security architecture towards the west.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>If the Russians were to leave Armenia, could the observer mission be transformed into an armed peacekeeping mission?</li>
</ul>
<p>Most recently the mission received diplomatic immunity in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was this requested, and what was the need for such immunity?</li>
<li>Is there precedent for such missions to have diplomatic level immunity?</li>
<li>Can you clarify whether this is blanket immunity (like ambassadors have) or “functional immunity” for acts committed during the performance of the monitoring duties?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="incidents">Incidents</h2>
<p>Let’s talk about a couple of specific incidents that have stayed in the minds of Armenians.</p>
<p>Back in August (15) of 2023, the Armenian MoD reported that the Azeri forces had opened fire on EU observer positions. The EUMA was quick to deny the report and labeled it “Fake News”. Later the mission came around to admit that they were present.</p>
<p>That cover up caused even Armenian citizens to lose some trust in the mission.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did the EUMA feel the need to cover up Azeri responsibility for that act?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="incident-details">Incident Details</h3>
<p>First the Armenian Defense Ministry reported that the EUMA was targeted. The EUMA immediately issued a “Fake News” report:</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/322/MoD-tweet.webp" alt="MoD Tweet"  title="MoD Tweet" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Then a video <a href="https://twitter.com/vermedianetwork/status/1691466730319609856">was released</a> proving they were shot at and the EUMA guys hiding:</p>
<p>They then deleted their tweet and <a href="https://twitter.com/EUmARMENIA/status/1691433631414124545">issued</a> a “Correcting Tweet”</p>
<h3 id="nerkin-hand">Nerkin Hand</h3>
<p>We can talk about the Nerkin Hand <a href="https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan/status/1763311065650037101">incident</a> and the allegations they made against the Russians.
* Clarify if the Russians have blocked them and what the specifics are?
* Why do they need to go into the valley of Nerkin Hand, when it would be better observed from the road? There are geolocated photos of the EUMA <a href="https://twitter.com/Aeternum7/status/1763202051402518757">actually</a> doing monitoring from this position (see location marked as EUMA) in September 2023.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/322/Nerkin-Hand.webp" alt="Nerkin Hand"  title="Nerkin Hand" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/322/observer.webp" alt="EU Observer"  title="EU Observer" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.</p>
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Episode 321 | Recorded: March 26, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="can-the-us-guarantee-armenias-security">Can the US Guarantee Armenia’s Security?</h1>
<h2 id="article-review">Article Review</h2>
<p>Paul, in your article you ask “should the United States even care about what happens in the South Caucasus”? And your first-look response is that no, there’s no strategic value for the US. Then you dig a little deeper and you posit that “an invasion of Armenia by Azerbaijan would run counter to American interests”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain why?</li>
<li>What are America’s strategic interests and objectives in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia has four neighbors: Iran, Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan. As long as Iran and the West are in conflict, no western support can reach Armenia through it. Azerbaijan and Turkey are the actual threats that we’re trying to mitigate, so no western support will reach Armenia through them. And Georgia is deeply reliant on Turkey and Azerbaijan in many aspects, so Armenians do not believe that it can be a reliable corridor for external support in a time of need, such as when a war breaks out.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So if the US truly wants to supply weapons to Armenia that would really matter, and that could potentially be used against Azerbaijan or even Turkey, how would it do this given these geographic limitations?</li>
<li>You note that “The United States should provide Armenia with the capabilities to defend itself, while setting clear expectations about the limits of its commitments.” What are those limits, and what should be the clear expectations?</li>
</ul>
<p>Speaking of clear expectations and limits, after the defeat in the 44-day war, Pashinyan’s government has acted like a shell-shocked entity unable to wield an army, paralyzed by the fear of an Azeri attack. Pashinyan has acted as if allies should be fighting Armenia’s wars. Russians have said they can’t be more Armenian than Armenians; Iran has said they can’t be more Armenian than Armenians.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think the Russians and/or the CSTO failed to set limits and define clear expectations for Pashinyan?
<ul>
<li>Or is Pashinyan being disingenuous and trying to scapegoat them and blame his war losses on someone else?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>You suggest that to complement procurements from France and India, the US should supply Armenia with <a href="https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/manpads#:~:text=Man%2Dportable%20air%20defense%20systems,%2Dfired%20anti%2Daircraft%20missiles.">MANPADS</a> as well as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophy_(countermeasure)">TROPHY countermeasure</a> systems. You further added: “arms exports to Armenia also could include broader counter-drone systems currently in development”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us the principles that went into these specific recommendations? For instance, why MANPADS specifically? Is this something that you assess the Armenian armed forces as lacking, and that they need?</li>
<li>On the topic of French radars and air defense systems, is the quantity that is being procured and supplied of any significance? It seems that the number of batteries supplied can be counted on one hand and this would be the first thing taken down during a wide scale first strike?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since the war, Pashinyan has replaced the entire General staff with his loyalists to prevent a military uprising, and between 2021 and 2023 the armed forces have shown no resilience or fighting capability.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you have a general assessment about the current state of Armenia’s defense forces?
<ul>
<li>Note: it has been 5 years that Pashinyan’s administration keeps touting “military reforms”. Are you aware of any upgrade of the forces?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>One of the natural vulnerabilities of Armenia is that its communication with the external world over land is limited. For instance, the main internet cable Armenia uses goes through Georgian territory and is owned by an Azerbaijani entity. In the case of the war in Ukraine, we have seen the west supply Ukraine with communications equipment, even commercial ones such as Starlink satellite dishes.</p>
<p>** Questions:**</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think that the US can help strengthen the resilience of Armenia’s civilian and even defense communications infrastructure?</li>
<li>In the military domain, are there high-tech communications technologies that can help improve the command &amp; control capacity of Armenia’s armed forces?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="turkish-factor">Turkish Factor</h2>
<p>In your article you say that the US state department could help neutralize the threat from Turkey by helping normalize Turkey-Armenia relations and acting as a mediator in that process.</p>
<p>Yet we know that Turkey has put forth preconditions that Turkish-Armenian normalization hinges on fulfilling Azerbaijani demands. At the same time, we know that Turkey itself has had historic problems related to Armenia supporting international efforts towards the recognition of the Armenian Genocide. And we’re not even mentioning the fact that most analysts whom we talk to believe that the so-called “Zangezur Corridor” project is mainly backed and promoted by Turkey.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think it’s realistic to expect that the US could foster a more positive stance by Turkey towards Armenia presently, when Armenia is at its weakest, given these historic positions and preconditions by Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<p>You note that more countries have taken up the call to support Armenia, such as France and India. You also note that none of these highly publicized military purchases, and also US security assistance, will make an overnight difference in deterring the imminent danger of Azerbaijan, which is aggressively supported by Turkey. There are some assessments that predict that in the next war, this time in Armenia, Turkey could be involved directly instead of through proxy forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How can the US deter such a role by Turkey in a future conflagration? Can it introduce additional rules preventing the use of US-made high tech weapons in an attack against Armenia? And would such rules actually be effective?
<ul>
<li>We have seen Canada impose such rules on its export of drone parts for the Turkish Bayrakdars, but following some NATO/Sweden negotiations, those export bans are being lifted. Also, it may be a simple thing for Turkey to ignore the rules “temporarily”, create new realities on the ground and then apologize for them. Can the US actually stop Turkey from such belligerence?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-factor">Iran Factor</h2>
<p>After the 2020 war, Iran articulated its red lines indicating that it will not tolerate any geopolitical changes in the region and has emphasized the integrity of its border with Armenia. Out of all regional powers that have the required capabilities, analysts claim that Iran is the most incentivized in sustaining Armenia’s territorial integrity.</p>
<p>Analysts claim that Armenia has refused advances from Iran in terms of supplies of drones and other weaponry as well as offers to do joint military exercises because of concerns about Western sanctions.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Do you think that Armenia could be a region where the US and Iran, instead of being adversaries, can potentially cooperate militarily, similar to Syria? Could the US tolerate, for instance, Iranian drones in Armenia as well as joint military exercises?</p>
<p>**Background: **You write that “an invasion also could further destabilize the region and upend critical energy flows that America&rsquo;s NATO allies are increasingly dependent on as they wean themselves off Russian supplies.” In reality, Azerbaijan has barely 5-10% of Russia’s capacity, and most of the oil and gas getting to Europe through the Azeri-Turkish pipelines is essentially rebranded Russian export, since the sanctions were imposed on Russia for the war in Ukraine.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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<p>On Friday night four terrorists attacked a concert hall in Moscow called the Crocus City Hall. At present the death toll <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/4-gunmen-arrested-moscow-concert-attack-death-toll/story?id=108421072">stands at</a> 137, and is expected to rise. The gunmen opened fire on the audience and set the building on fire. Atrocities were also committed.</p>
<p>The Islamic terrorist group ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack, but details remain sketchy. On Saturday, president Putin declared that the four gunmen were apprehended as they fled towards Ukraine, and claimed that an escape “window” was prepared for the gunmen across the border in Ukraine. After questioning the gunmen reportedly confessed to be Tajiks who had transited through Turkey before reaching their destination.</p>
<p>At present there are reports that earlier in March the US had warned Russia of a potential strike, and <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-warns-imminent-moscow-attack-extremists-urges-citizens-avoid-crowds-rcna142401">warned</a> its citizens to avoid crowded areas until further notice.</p>
<p>And also, the media outlet <a href="https://rsf.org/en/independent-russian-tv-channel-dozdh-tv-rain-obtains-journalism-trust-initiative-certification">TV Rain</a> (Дождь - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNgfzTHUaFqKxby9UKwZzwQ">Dozhd</a>), which is operated from exile and declared a “<a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/russia-declares-media-outlet-tv-rain-foreign-agent-2021-08-20/">foreign agent</a>” in Russia, <a href="https://am.sputniknews.ru/20240323/posolstvo-armenii-osudilo-novostnye-syuzhety-telekanala-dozhd-73752240.html">quoted an anonymous eyewitness</a> who claimed that the attackers spoke to each other in Armenian. The TV station later <a href="https://armeniatoday.news/world-ru/726493/">apologized</a> in the wake of the Tajik terrorists’ confessions, which put Turkey squarely in the limelight of Russia’s scrutiny.</p>
<p>So far as we know, there were at least two Armenians among the victims.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where did the Armenian story come from on Dozhd?</li>
<li>The US and Russia continue to maintain a backchannel, to inform each other of potential terror attacks. Is it likely that Russia ignored US intel warnings about this attack?</li>
<li>How could Turkish and Russian intel miss something like this?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-prisoners-grow-in-armenia">Political Prisoners Grow In Armenia</h2>
<h3 id="narek-samsonyan-and-vazgen-saghatelyan">Narek Samsonyan and Vazgen Saghatelyan</h3>
<p>Two podcasters, Narek Samsonyan and Vazgen Saghatelyan were arrested Saturday morning, from their homes, in one of the most brutal ways possible. An entire law enforcement squad, some in civilian clothing while others in uniforms and facemasks, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inK1X9rxL4">smashed</a> Narek Samsonyan to the ground, pushing his face on the asphalt.</p>
<p>Again, both of them were arrested from their homes and they did not appear to resist the arrest. Even some of the Moscow terrorists seem to have received a less violent treatment.</p>
<p>So what was their crime? Terrorism? Murder? Rape? Corruption?</p>
<p>It just so happens that their podcast, which is critical of Pashinyan, is getting extremely popular nowadays. And we have to warn you, they sometimes resort to strong language. What did they call him that triggered Pashinyan? Was it “son of a bitch”?</p>
<p>Later in the day, when the authorities <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ArmInvestigative/posts/pfbid02JZbt5fbx3XxkxQA6TFJqfH2L2QDX8ZCHRGJqw5wM4tQi1EEWKgDtBgenDC2T6NmBl">provided</a> a clarification and “smoking gun evidence”, they apparently referred to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/DbgMXXjii3s?si=JEpV2vVEpgE14zAg">Imnemnimi podcast</a> Episode 83 of March 20, the segment between 00:10 and 00:50 minutes. We weren’t able to find anything in those segments other than calling a spade a spade.</p>
<p>But officially, it seems that the crime is “hooliganism”, apparently conducted via Youtube. So we asked ChatGPT, you know the one that passed the bar exam, what is hooliganism:</p>
<pre><code>_“Hooliganism in post-Soviet countries typically refers to acts of violence, vandalism, or disorderly conduct, often associated with football (soccer) matches or other large public gatherings. These laws are aimed at maintaining public order and safety, combating hooligan behavior that can lead to property damage, injuries, or even fatalities.”_
</code></pre>
<p>Apparently, the prosecutors and defense attorneys were arguing whether Youtube viewers have the agency to simply change the channel or were viewers forced to experience this “public disorder”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How can public order be disturbed (which is the implication for a hooliganism charge) by a Youtube live video?
<ul>
<li>Did they call for violence? Did they commit illegal acts?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Where is the so-called  “civil society”?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="narek-malyan-exonerated-on-one-case-but-still-in-jail-on-another">Narek Malyan exonerated on one case, but still in jail on another</h3>
<p>Narek Malyan, an opposition activist, faces harassment from the government through frivolous prosecutions and pretrial detention.</p>
<p>One of his cases, for which he is in detention now, involves his Facebook posts following the handover of Artsakh after the 1-day war in September 2023.</p>
<p>Another case, the “<a href="https://eng.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/54815/">Ceaușescu case</a>”, saw him <a href="https://www.tert.am/en/news/2021/02/27/malyan/3537834">charged</a> for public calls to violence, because Malyan organized a “futuristic” staging of Nicolae Ceaușescu&rsquo;s execution during protests. Despite being exonerated by first instance courts in 2023, authorities appealed the decision. This week, the court of appeals <a href="https://www.aravot.am/2024/03/20/1406966/">upheld</a> his exoneration.</p>
<p>Despite this, Malyan remains detained on what appears to be another frivolous charge. Diplomatic responses to questions about political prisoners in Armenia often evade clear acknowledgment of such cases.</p>
<p>Western ambassadors normally provide very diplomatic and evasive answers when it comes to political prisoners in Armenia. Famously, when former EU ambassador Andrea Wiktorin was questioned about this, in a conference where the Armenian opposition was prevented from attending, as protesters were chanting outside, Wiktorin proceeded to praise Armenia’s “democracy”.</p>
<p>And apparently we don’t have a single person in Armenia whom the west clearly believes is a political prisoner.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are you familiar with the case of Narek Malyan? Do you believe there are political prisoners in Armenia?</li>
<li>How is Pashinyan getting away with this? Where are the condemnations from Western embassies? Why do you think western embassies are so hesitant to call him out?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="fearmongering-by-pashinyan-and-repercussions">Fearmongering by Pashinyan and Repercussions</h2>
<p>Pashinyan visited Tavush. He took with him this cutout piece of plastic he calls Armenia.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/320/nikol-map.webp" alt="Armenia in Swiss Cheese"  title="Armenia in Swissh Cheese" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

He spoke to the residents of the 4 villages that Azerbaijan wants ceded immediately. Reportedly, they were very tense discussions. Despite the meetings lasting more than 3 hours, the Pashinyan team finally released an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHe-ucjDCtY">edited video</a> of segments from that meeting, only about 40 minutes in length.</p>
<p>Apparently all the emotional and controversial stuff was edited out, but from what we understood of the videos released by his team, he continued to make the case for ceding those villages.</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<ul>
<li>That Armenia will receive a strong “invisible” wall of legitimacy</li>
<li>There will be war “by the end of the week” if we don’t do this.</li>
<li>There were media reports, we don’t have this on video, that he also raised the specter of Turkey attacking Armenia from the East in tandem with Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>If war is allowed to happen, he indicates that the outcome will be known.</li>
</ul>
<p>He also said that everyone would be handsomely compensated.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the risks of Armenia pulling back from the territories that Pashinyan wants to give away? What is the “wall of legitimacy” that he is talking about?</li>
<li>Does Azerbaijan even recognize the territories beyond those 4 villages as Armenian?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="stoltenberg-tour">Stoltenberg Tour</h2>
<p>This past week NATO SecGen Jens <a href="https://www.gmfus.org/news/stoltenberg-south-caucasus">Stoltenberg toured the South Caucasus</a>, probably timed to come on the heels of Putin’s new term in office. First stop was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32866386.html">Azerbaijan</a>, then Georgia, then <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32868701.html">Armenia</a>.</p>
<p>In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223718.htm?selectedLocale=en">Baku</a> Stoltenberg emphasized energy and security cooperation with NATO as key issues, completely ignoring Artsakh or even the recent so-called “elections” where Aliyev got 200% of the vote. In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223793.htm?selectedLocale=en">Tbilisi</a>, Stoltenberg amped up his anti-Russian rhetoric and partnership with NATO. In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223795.htm?selectedLocale=en">Yerevan</a>, still officially a member of CSTO and partner to Russia, it was all about “democracy”, “peace” and how Russia must not win in Ukraine.</p>
<p>In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223718.htm?selectedLocale=en">Baku</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Did not say a word about about human rights</li>
<li>Not a word about ethnic cleansing</li>
<li>Not a word about rights of Artsakhtsis</li>
<li>Not a word about democracy or Aliyev’s fake “re-election”</li>
<li>He discussed “energy security” for NATO allies</li>
<li>He encouraged Azerbaijan to seize the opportunity to reach a lasting peace agreement with Armenia</li>
<li>He welcomed Azerbaijan’s support for Ukraine</li>
<li>He welcomed deeper relations of Azerbaijan with Turkey, and therefore NATO
<ul>
<li>The day after Aliyev goes to Stepanakert and does a “Novruz” bonfire cleaning</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223793.htm?selectedLocale=en">Georgia</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Expressed commitment to assisting with Georgia&rsquo;s path toward “greater democracy”</li>
<li>Noted on NATO’s 2008 declaration that Georgia would one day be a member state.</li>
</ul>
<p>In <a href="https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_223795.htm?selectedLocale=en">Armenia</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Expressed hope for a framework for closer NATO-Armenia cooperation</li>
<li>Praised Armenia for sending humanitarian aid to Ukraine (last year) and welcomed Pashinyan’s solidarity on Ukraine. He also highlighted that Putin must not be allowed to succeed.</li>
<li>Expressed support for Armenia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity</li>
<li>Expressed support for Armenia’s efforts to develop a “more independent foreign policy”, meaning “anti-Russian”</li>
<li>Expressed hope for the swift development of an Individually Tailored Partnership Program for Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was Stoltenberg touring the South Caucasus right after Putin’s re-election?</li>
<li>How did his messages differ from capital to capital?</li>
<li>Combining his various messages from the three capitals, what should we be hearing as his overall message from NATO?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Keep Artsakh in your minds and do not give up on it</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Western diplomats who do not acknowledge and defend political prisoners in Armenia</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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#### Guest:
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Episode 319 | Recorded: March 16, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="tatul-manaseryan-on-economic-topics">Tatul Manaseryan on Economic Topics</h1>
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<p>Dr. Manaseryan, as this is your first time on our show, would you tell us about yourself, so that our listeners may get to know you a little bit?</p>
<h2 id="economic-diversification">Economic Diversification</h2>
<p>Over a third of Armenia’s foreign trade is with Russia, which also imports 44% of Armenia’s exports. All other trade partners pale in comparison.</p>
<p>Former minister of economy Vahe Kerobyan is now facing charges of corruption which he denies. His <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32852035.html">newly appointed replacement</a>, Gevorg Papoyan promised diversification of Armenia’s trading partners, saying that this will be his highest priority.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a realistic goal?</li>
<li>What are Pashinyan’s real objectives here?
<ul>
<li>Note: he has figured out that he can’t accede to EU demands to do a hard “pivot to the west” without damaging his economy, which means he can’t get reelected, so now he thinks he can pivot the economy on a dime?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>—-</p>
<p>The critical border checkpoint at Lars remains prone to frequent closures due to weather or other emergencies. In the past, Armenia had projects to supplement the transit of goods from Armenia to Russia, including a “dry port” and a ferry on the Black Sea. Both projects <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32768933.html">have failed</a>. Kerobyan, in his <a href="https://youtu.be/5j8kTjnMsBQ">interview</a> to ArmComedy said that the ferry project was canceled when Armenia decided to “diversify” its trading partners.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can it really be called diversification when you deprioritize the Russian projects at the same time?</li>
</ul>
<p>—-</p>
<ul>
<li>Who is Gevorg Papoyan? Is the economy in good hands? You talked about “vision”, what do you think should be elements of a successful economic vision?</li>
<li>How long would a successful project of diversification take?</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s “economic pivot to the west” notwithstanding, Russia has a lot of levers to pull. Are there options to Russia, if it decides to be antagonistic? How would you compensate for a 44% drop in exports, and a 35% crash of your economy?</li>
</ul>
<p>Papoyan and Pashinyan talk about new markets in Europe and the Middle East. Specific examples they’ve brought up are Egypt and France.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is their calculus with “new markets” replacing Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eaeu-and-free-trade-with-iran">EAEU and Free Trade with Iran</h3>
<p>Earlier this year, on January 2nd, Iran signed a free trade agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union, the EAEU. Armenia stands to gain greatly from this, as its border with Iran is essentially the only direct land border with the EAEU.</p>
<p>However, the Pashinyan government’s ambition to move closer to the EU may jeopardize its membership in the EAEU. The EU will very likely find Armenia’s membership there incompatible with its own charters, and on the flip side, Russia has hinted that it will not allow Armenia to stay in the EAEU if it quits the CSTO.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the benefits of the EAEU for Armenia?</li>
<li>Can the European Union replace the Eurasian Economic Union in the Armenian economy? At least in the near future?</li>
<li>Just today we learned that Armenia is going to disallow the MIR Payment system. What good can come out of this policy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="systemic-corruption">Systemic Corruption</h2>
<p>We talked about corruption allegations against the previous minister of economy. Actually there are constant reports that the government favors loyalist providers, and often gives tenders without the mandatory bidding process, and to sole bidders. Many of these providers often are relatives or family members of ruling party circles.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of the state of systemic corruption in Armenia and the risk it presents to the economy? What kind of progress has Armenia registered since 2018 in fighting corruption, which was the coming to power mantra of the Pashinyan regime?</li>
</ul>
<p>Quoting transparency international report for 2023: Armenia worse (specifically related to single-bidder contracts).</p>
<h2 id="bank-secrecy-scrapped">Bank Secrecy Scrapped</h2>
<p>Last week, Armenia’s parliament passed <a href="https://armlur.am/1346514/">another law</a> targeted at giving the government more access to citizen’s financial data, something which was covered under bank secrecy. Specifically, the state revenue committee - under the excuse of “more efficient” revenue collection - will get access to banking transactions of citizens.</p>
<p>More specifically, the total of all debits and credits to bank accounts of those individuals who fill out declarations of income (essentially every citizen eventually) - will be reported to the tax authorities. According to reports, this information can later be subject to sharing not only in Armenia but also with tax agencies of foreign governments!!!</p>
<p>We should note that due to changes to the legislation by the Pashinyan regime, law enforcement already has access to this data. Now, the data is being made available more widely, to include tax authorities.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the stated reason for this reform, and does it achieve that?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you Dr. Manaseryan for joining us!</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>318</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Impressions of Canadian Amb. Interview | More Concessions by Pashinyan | EU Resolution for Armenia | Systemic Corruption | Ep 318 - Mar 18, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
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* More Concessions Signaled by Pashinyan
* EU Parliament Resolution on Armenia
* Fish Rots from the Head
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#### Guest:
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#### Topics:
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* More Concessions Signaled by Pashinyan
* EU Parliament Resolution on Armenia
* Fish Rots from the Head
Episode 318 | Recorded: March 18, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Reactions to Interview with Canadian Ambassador
* More Concessions Signaled by Pashinyan
* EU Parliament Resolution on Armenia
* Fish Rots from the Head
Episode 318 | Recorded: March 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="reaction-to-interview-with-canadian-ambassador">Reaction to Interview with Canadian Ambassador</h2>
<p>Hovik, Asbed, and Arthur talk about the Canadian ambassador’s interview with Groong.</p>
<p>Last week we published a lengthy interview with the new Canadian Ambassador to Armenia, Andrew Turner. We checked, and it seems to be the most comprehensive interview with the ambassador to date and goes beyond the traditional formalities. For those who want to listen to the hour-long interview, just look up episode 316 on your Youtube, Spotify, or any other channel where Groong exists.</p>
<p>Asbed, given that the interview is still fresh on our minds, and Arthur appears to have listened to it as well, I wanted to see if we could reflect a little bit on what was communicated. Canada is a major country, part of the G20, and has a significant Armenian diaspora. The orientation of Canada vis-a-vis Armenia is therefore important.</p>
<p>We covered multiple topics:</p>
<ul>
<li>Motivation for the opening of the embassy</li>
<li>EU Monitoring Mission in Armenia (of which Canada is part of, as a non-EU country)</li>
<li>Political Prisoners in Armenia</li>
<li>Canadian Military Supplies to Turkey</li>
</ul>
<p>Discuss the interview.</p>
<h2 id="more-concessions-signaled-by-pashinyan">More Concessions Signaled By Pashinyan</h2>
<p>The government uses a manipulative language saying that no territory that belongs to the Republic of Armenia will be handed over to Azerbaijan. Of course, they don’t mention the second part, that they consider those <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32857315.html">villages</a> Azerbaijani anyway, and those according-to-them “Azerbaijani” villages <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32858961.html">ARE going to be given</a>.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/318/communications.webp" alt="Tavush Region Details"  title="Tavush Region Details" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>One major problem is that when you go from Iran to Georgia the main strategic communications artery that you can use passes right through those villages. In fact, based on Google maps, you “enter” and “exit” Azerbaijan 5 times going through that artery. On top of that, the main part of the Russian gas pipeline goes through those territories Pashinyan intends to hand over.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/318/energy.webp" alt="Energy Distribution"  title="Energy Distribution" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>This looks like the Goris-Kapan fiasco all over again, when Armenia claimed that nothing was handed over. Then officially Pashinyan recognized a few villages along Goris-Kapan as Azeri, using the names like Eyvazli and Chaizami. Then Azerbaijanis put up signs on that road, then one day there was a checkpoint. Then Azerbaijanis started charging customs duty from Iranian trucks while allowing Armenians to pass through with Russian peacekeeper escort. And then one final day, they closed off the road completely.</p>
<p>We also remember what Azerbaijan does to gas once Armenians cede the pipelines to them. See “Lachin corridor”, and “ethnic cleansing”.</p>
<p>According to Shahin Mustafayev, this is all planned to happen BEFORE the actual delimitation process begins. FM Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32863451.html">confirmed</a> that Azerbaijan intends to give up nothing in exchange: none of the Armenian territories that they currently occupy, nor does it plan to agree on the terms for a delimitation process.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>The delimitation and demarcation process can be called one large negotiation. Have you ever seen a negotiation where one of the parties gives so many concessions, before the negotiations even begin?</li>
<li>What dangers does this process carry?</li>
</ul>
<p>Another thing Pashinyan signaled in his press conference last Monday was that if peace is reached, then it is possible that Armenia may withdraw its international legal claims against Azerbaijan, based on reciprocity. The blockade of Artsakh is one of the claims in the ICJ I believe. There are many similar cases.</p>
<p>Some of the cases are on behalf of Artsakhtsis.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the potential of this happening?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-parliament-resolution-on-armenia">EU Parliament Resolution On Armenia</h2>
<p>Last Wednesday, the EU Parliament <a href="https://jam-news.net/european-parliament-resolution-on-armenia/">passed</a> a resolution that hailed Armenia’s “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32860560.html">change of foreign policy</a>”, and praised its effective freezing of participation in the CSTO. It also said that should Armenia desire “candidate status” for EU membership, and if it continues on the path to democratic reforms, the request for candidacy should be considered by the EU. There are <a href="https://mamul.am/am/news/287006">reports</a> that  Pashinyan’s government plans to submit a membership bid before the end of 2024.</p>
<p>Pashinyan was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32861745.html">quick to welcome</a> the EU Resolution.</p>
<p>In light of many countries recently reiterating that neither the US, nor the EU, nor France, will do, or can do, anything to save Armenia in case of an Azeri or Turkish attack, it’s not clear what this non-binding resolution will do for Armenia, besides further pissing off Russia. And they are pissed, they just issued a warning about “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32860300.html">irreparable damage</a>” being done to relations between the countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can the Russian-Armenian relations be fixed at this point?</li>
<li>What can the EU do for Armenia’s security? Can Armenia shoot democracy bullets at Azerbaijan if they attack? Or throw resolutions at them?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="fish-rots-from-the-head">Fish Rots from the Head</h2>
<p>A month ago we discussed the extensive campaign fraud committed by Civil Contract and Tigran Avinyan, during the September 2023 Yerevan municipal elections, which was <a href="https://infocom.am/hy/article/123299">reported by Infocom.am</a>. The <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/02/06/fake-names-on-list-of-donors-to-pashinyans-candidate-for-yerevan-mayor/#:~:text=Pashinyan's%20backers%20resorted%20to%20a,names%2C%20an%20investigation%20has%20revealed.">bombshell allegations</a> about fake political campaign contributions was called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB3WTJyvVjc">unprecedented</a>” by even western watchdogs. And earlier this month Pashinyan’s handpicked prosecutor general, Anna Vardapetyan, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32848825.html">dismissed</a> Infocom’s extensive and investigative report saying that “there was no evidence of financial irregularities.”</p>
<p>Right on the heels of this refusal to investigate and demand accountability, new investigative reports have come to light, this time from <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/767336/special-report-civilnet-finds-irregularities-in-donations-to-armenias-ruling-party/">Civilnet</a>.am and the international Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (<a href="https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/coordinated-cash-donation-data-from-armenias-ruling-party-raises-questions-about-source-of-funds">OCCRP</a>) that <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32854308.html">Civil Contract did in fact extensively violate Armenian laws</a> on elections and campaign funding.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Civil Contract’s questionable campaign tactics have been exposed in Armenian opposition media before. Do you think western-funded agencies just discovered that there is corruption in Armenia?</li>
<li>Why is The West so resistant to holding Pashinyan and entourage accountable for undemocratic, in fact downright autocratic, practices?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Don’t pay attention to videos of Arayik Harutyunyan and Levon Mnatsakanyan from Baku. They are coerced and possibly under torture. Do not share, do not distribute.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong> - 150th Anniversary of Russian writer Nikolai Berdyaev, who helps you understand Russians better.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong> - Russia vs. West is an intercivilizational fight for resources.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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Episode 317 | Recorded: March 16, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="mpg-and-iri-poll-results">MPG and IRI Poll Results</h1>
<h2 id="iri-poll">IRI Poll</h2>
<p>So the International Republican Institute <a href="https://www.iri.org/resources/public-opinion-survey-residents-of-armenia-december-2023/">poll</a>, which was released last week, was actually conducted just before Christmas 2023. It polled over 1,500 residents of Armenia and had a response rate of 28%, with an estimated margin error of plus or minus 2.5%.</p>
<h3 id="and-maybe-the-responses-incorporate-the-good-feelings-and-optimism-of-the-holiday-season-who-knows">And maybe the responses incorporate the good feelings and optimism of the holiday season, who knows.</h3>
<p>If you’d like to see the poll slides that we’re going to discuss, you can follow our show on our Youtube channel, where we will put the slides in our video. We’ll also put them in our world-famous show notes, at podcasts.groong.org.</p>
<h3 id="slide-5-is-armenia-heading-in-the-right-direction-or-the-wrong-direction">Slide 5: Is Armenia heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?</h3>
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<p>Generally it seems like people are polarized over this question, slightly favoring “right direction” over “wrong direction”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about how respondents have assessed this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-8-what-are-the-main-problems-armenia-is-currently-facing">Slide 8: What are the main problems Armenia is currently facing?</h3>
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<p>The top concern looks to be security and borders, with a third of respondents worried about this issue. The economy at 23% is the second biggest concern. But interestingly in an economy that the government claims to be going like gangbusters, people are apparently not really feeling it given that if we add the four economy subtopics in the top 30, it would rank as the top concern at 51%.</p>
<p>By the time we get to the 8th highest concern, which is the quality of schools and education, already less than 10% of respondents listed it as a concern.</p>
<p>More alarmingly, the needs of displaced Artsakh Armenians show in 18th place, with 3%, and the return of Artsakh Armenians to their ancestral lands clocks in at 28th, with a little over 2%.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We were truly surprised as everyone we interact with would probably list Artsakh related topics and the fate of our Artsakhtsi brothers and sisters as a top concern. So can you tell us what factors led to this result in the poll?</li>
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<h3 id="slide-39-how-important-is-it-for-the-armenian-government-to-help-the-armenians-who-have-been-forcibly-displaced-from-nagorno-karabakhartsakh">Slide 39: How important is it for the Armenian government to help the Armenians who have been forcibly displaced from Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh?</h3>
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<p>Again, for a topic that doesn’t seem to be very high on the minds of Armenians, it’s interesting to see an across-the-board of demographics over-70% agreement that it is “very important” for the government to help the people of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Thoughts? Do you see any incongruencies in the poll results?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-armenian-governments-handling-of-the-crisis-related-to-forcibly-displaced-armenians-from-nagorno-karabakhartsakh">How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the Armenian government&rsquo;s handling of the crisis related to forcibly displaced Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh?</h3>
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<p>It seems that most people are satisfied with the government’s handling of the Artsakh refugee crisis.</p>
<p>This is in the face of countless problems, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Many Artsakhsis still hadn’t received their aid, when this poll was conducted?
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<li>Mention slide where they say HOUSING  has been a major issue.</li>
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<li>The Armenian government was putting artificial challenges as condition for receipt of aid, such as declaring they’re not citizens of Armenia</li>
<li>Many Armenians to date are responsible for providing housing and aid out of their pocket to Artsakhtsis.</li>
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<p>All these nuances seem to be lost on the poll respondents.</p>
<p>We can see however that the biggest disaggregation signal comes when we compare the answers of those who said Armenia is going in the right direction vs. those that disagreed.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So can we say that this issue is heavily influenced by geopolitical leanings of the respondents?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-15-which-politician-or-public-person-do-you-trust-the-most-and-the-second-most">Slide 15: Which politician or public person do you trust the most? And the second most</h3>
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<p>Pashinyan tops the list of “most trusted” at 17%. That is hardly “trust”. As usual, the nobody slot wins hands down at 60%, showing a disenfranchised voter base in Armenia.</p>
<h3 id="slide-16-which-political-party-or-alliance-if-any-would-you-vote-for-if-national-parliamentary-elections-were-held-next-sunday">Slide 16: Which political party or alliance, if any, would you vote for if national parliamentary elections were held next Sunday</h3>
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<p>Similar results for the political parties, the list is topped by the current ruling party, but at a mere 17%. We already knew in practice since the Yerevan elections in September 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Hrant, how would you explain this result?
<ul>
<li>These results have been consistently low for over a year.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-19-how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-work-of-the-following-institutions">Slide 19: How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the work of the following institutions?</h3>
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<p>Starting with the Prime Minister’s office, the anti-rating starts to overtake the positive rating, highlighting sharp division among respondents. For the Prime Minister’s office, 40% are satisfied in general, while 38% are dissatisfied. The National Assembly has the highest antirating, with 47% “very dissatisfied” and 21% “dissatisfied”.</p>
<p>This is consistent with the low rankings that the government and the ruling party are getting in the previous slides.</p>
<h3 id="slide-26-how-do-you-feel-about-the-direction-of-each-of-the-following-spheres-during-the-past-six-months">Slide 26: How do you feel about the direction of each of the following spheres during the past six months?</h3>
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<p>We can probably skip this. Large number of disaffected people who think it’s all the same, and together with the marginal yes/no’s it seems like this is a no-op.</p>
<h3 id="slide-36-what-do-you-think-is-the-biggest-success-of-the-government-during-the-last-6-months">Slide 36: What do you think is the biggest success of the government during the last 6 months?</h3>
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<p>The government channels are consistently pushing their “դիվերսիֆիկացում” business these days, so it’s not a surprise that “multi-vector” is listed as a top item. The same goes with the purchase of weapons, with French and Indian purchase stories and micro-details in government channels almost every day.</p>
<p>Yet, while other slides indicate that people think that government aid for Artsakh has been acceptable, here people do not consider it an achievement, at 2%.</p>
<h3 id="slide-37-what-do-you-think-is-the-biggest-failure-of-the-government-during-the-last-6-months">Slide 37: What do you think is the biggest failure of the government during the last 6 months?</h3>
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<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Given the general apathy towards the Artsakh issue in other slides, how do we explain the government’s “biggest failure” showing up in this question?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-38-what-are-things-you-believe-that-nikol-pashinyans-government-must-achieve-in-the-next-6-months-if-any">Slide 38: What are things you believe that Nikol Pashinyan’s government must achieve in the next 6 months, if any?</h3>
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<p>We’ve noted the unusually frequent media articles about military deliveries from the west. Not so much from the Russians, despite statements that the Russians had all but fully delivered on the $400 million order. How? That’s still a state secret it seems.</p>
<p>The uneven treatment of the issue in government media is suspicious.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think of these responses?</li>
<li>Is the government strengthening the armed forces?</li>
</ul>
<p>Again, return of Artsakhtsis not a major concern, listed at 5% BUT ,,, (go to next slide)</p>
<h3 id="slide-43-why-are-you-dissatisfied-please-mention-the-two-most-important-reasons-starting-with-the-most-important-one">Slide 43: Why are you dissatisfied? Please mention the two most important reasons, starting with the most important one.</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-45-how-would-you-evaluate-the-current-state-of-the-relationship-between-armenia-and-">Slide 45: How would you evaluate the current state of the relationship between Armenia and …?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-51-which-of-these-countries-do-you-consider-the-most-important-_span-styletext-decorationunderlinepoliticalspan-_partners-for-armenia">Slide 51: Which of these countries do you consider the most important _<!-- raw HTML omitted -->political<!-- raw HTML omitted --> _partners for Armenia?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-54-which-of-these-countries-do-you-consider-the-most-important-_economic-_partners-for-armenia">Slide 54: Which of these countries do you consider the most important _economic _partners for Armenia?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-55-which-of-these-countries-do-you-consider-the-most-important-_security-_partners-for-armenia">Slide 55: Which of these countries do you consider the most important _security _partners for Armenia?</h3>
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<p>On the count of the responses about France and USA, Rand published an article today, not mincing any words. It <a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/03/the-us-cant-guarantee-armenias-security-despite-azerbaijans.html?">stated</a> right in the headline: “The U.S. Can&rsquo;t Guarantee Armenia&rsquo;s Security, Despite Azerbaijan&rsquo;s Threats, but It Can Help”</p>
<p>The article ends with the following conclusion:</p>
<p><em>“The United States and its European allies cannot be everything Armenia wants and needs from a foreign partner. Yerevan is going to maintain complex economic, social, and strategic relations with its neighbors, including both Russia and Iran, and it would be folly to pressure them to make an all-or-nothing binary choice between a Western alignment or nothing. The West should recognize and accept Armenia&rsquo;s multi-alignment and focus on areas where it is comparatively able and willing to deepen ties and foster stability.”</em></p>
<h3 id="slide-56-which-of-these-countries-poses-the-greatest-_political-_threat-to-armenia">Slide 56: Which of these countries poses the greatest _political _threat to Armenia?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-57-which-of-these-countries-poses-the-greatest-_economic-_threat-to-armenia">Slide 57: Which of these countries poses the greatest _economic _threat to Armenia?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-59-which-specific-media-outlets-do-you-consider-most-trustworthy-for-political-information">Slide 59: Which specific media outlets do you consider most trustworthy for political information?</h3>
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<p>Two thirds of the respondents have listed government channels as their main source of information.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
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<li>What do you make of this? Are they listening to a fully objective range of information?</li>
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<h3 id="slide-60-which-tv-news-program-or-youtube-channel-do-you-view-the-most-for-political-information">Slide 60: Which TV news program or YouTube channel do you view the most for political information?</h3>
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<h3 id="slide-61-how-trustworthy-or-untrustworthy-you-think-each-of-the-following-are-as-a-source-of-information-on-the-security-situation-in-armenia">Slide 61: How trustworthy or untrustworthy you think each of the following are as a source of information on the security situation in Armenia?</h3>
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<h2 id="mpg-poll">MPG Poll</h2>
<p>The MPG poll was conducted at the end of February 2024. It polled 1,100 residents and estimates a plus or minus 3% error margin. MPG Gallup International is an independent polling organization in Armenia.</p>
<p>Note that the questions by the two organizations are not equivalent or full comparable.</p>
<h3 id="slide-3-why-is-the-political-situation-complicated">Slide 3: Why is the political situation complicated?</h3>
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<li>35% say that the Armenian government’s improper policies are responsible.</li>
<li>30% say it is dictated by external powers.</li>
<li>25% say it is due to global conflicts.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We could skip this slide.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-4-does-the-degradation-of-russian-armenian-relations-correspond-to-armenian-strategic-interests">Slide 4: Does the degradation of Russian-Armenian relations correspond to Armenian strategic interests?</h3>
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<li>37% say yes.</li>
<li>58% say no.</li>
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<p>We’ve mentioned this before that all the ruling propaganda, people in Armenia do not believe that leaving the CSTO, and possibly the EAEU, is in Armenia’s national interest. Almost 45% of Armenian exports go to Russia, and 35% of the GDP is generated through Russia. Armenians also know that Russia, nor even the EU, won’t allow Armenia to exit the CSTO and stay in the EAEU. This means that the EAEU free-trade agreement with Iran would also be annulled between Armenia and Iran.</p>
<h3 id="slide-5-should-armenia-continue-participating-in-the-csto-or-try-to-join-nato">Slide 5: Should Armenia continue participating in the CSTO, or try to join NATO?</h3>
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<ul>
<li>22% say NATO</li>
<li>28% say CSTO</li>
<li>44% say Armenia should stay “non-block”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do Armenians have “block fatigue”? Really seems like Armenians are tired of thinking about security all day every day of their lives and just want the problem to go away. But does a “non-block” preference make the problems go away? Does “non-block” make Azerbaijan, or Turkey, go away?</li>
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<h3 id="slide-6-is-the-armenian-government-doing-enough-to-free-the-artsakh-leadership-who-are-in-prison-in-baku">Slide 6: Is the Armenian government doing enough to free the Artsakh leadership who are in prison in Baku?</h3>
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<li>26% say yes</li>
<li>60% say no</li>
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<p>A 60% vote says Armenians want more done, to free the Artsakh leadership.</p>
<h3 id="slide-7-is-there-risk-of-war-in-the-near-future">Slide 7: Is there risk of war in the near future?</h3>
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<li>81% say yes</li>
<li>17% say no</li>
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<h3 id="slide-8-how-are-you-disposed-towards-armenias-active-military-cooperation-with-france">Slide 8: How are you disposed towards Armenia’s active military cooperation with France?</h3>
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<li>82% approve.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s there to not approve?</li>
<li>We could skip this slide.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-9-which-countries-can-armenia-expect-military-political-support-from">Slide 9: Which countries can Armenia expect military-political support from?</h3>
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<li>46% say France. Seems to be the partner due jour this poll around.</li>
<li>23% India</li>
<li>22% say Russia. Given how degraded the relations are, and level of anti-Russian propaganda on government media channels, it’s a surprise that Russia remains the third more trusted military-political ally.</li>
<li>16% say Iran</li>
<li>14% say the USA</li>
<li>5% say China</li>
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<p>The fact that all the presumptive allies change from poll to poll, and their rankings are all over the place, testifies to how much public opinion is manipulated by the most popular media in Armenia, all of which are pro-government channels. The public opinion swings wildly from day to day, and week to week, as these channels pump people full of the government’s preferred agenda.</p>
<p>Russia has lost a lot of luster, but it retains a steady base of loyalists who trust the existing security architecture.</p>
<h3 id="slide-10-was-it-right-that-on-the-36th-anniversary-of-the-artsakh-movement-on-february-20-the-armenian-government-did-nothing-to-commemorate-it">Slide 10: Was it right that on the 36th anniversary of the Artsakh movement, on February 20, the Armenian government did nothing to commemorate it?</h3>
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<ul>
<li>61% say no, it was not right.</li>
<li>30% said yes, it was right to ignore the anniversary of the Karabakh Movement.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="slide-11-is-it-acceptable-for-armenia-to-leave-the-csto-and-eaeu-as-a-price-for-a-visa-free-regime-with-the-eu">Slide 11: Is it acceptable for Armenia to leave the CSTO and EAEU as a “price” for a visa-free regime with the EU?</h3>
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<ul>
<li>43% find it acceptable.</li>
<li>59% said no.</li>
</ul>
<p>Even though a healthy majority of the people said no, it’s still disturbing to see that 43% of the respondents do not know which side their bread is buttered, and think it’s ok to give up its decades-long security system, and half of the Armenian economy, for the transient and rescindable privilege of simplified travel to Europe.</p>
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* Political Prisoners
* Canadian Military Supplies to Turkey
Episode 316 | Recorded: March 15, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="canadian-ambassador-andrew-turner">Canadian Ambassador Andrew Turner</h1>
<p>As this is your first time on our show Mr. Turner, would you tell us a little about your background, your career in Canadian foreign affairs, and your path to Armenia?</p>
<p>Follow-ups:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where is the embassy located now?</li>
<li>Any plans for a more permanent location at this time?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="establishment-of-canadian-embassy">Establishment of Canadian Embassy</h2>
<h3 id="on-september-25-2023-a-week-after-the-total-ethnic-cleansing-of-armenians-started-in-artsakh-nagorno-karabakh-canada-namedhttpswwwcbccanewspoliticsarmenia-canada-ambassador-nagorno-karabakh-16977934-its-first-ambassador-to-armenia">On September 25 2023, a week after the total ethnic cleansing of Armenians started in Artsakh, Nagorno Karabakh, Canada <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/armenia-canada-ambassador-nagorno-karabakh-1.6977934">named</a> its first ambassador to Armenia.</h3>
<h3 id="armenia">Armenia</h3>
<p>There’s a healthy Armenian-Canadian diaspora all over Canada, for example in Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa. They have strong ties to their old countries, like Armenia, and also for those of us whose grandparents survived the Genocide in 1915, and ended up in the Middle East, and who finally emigrated to Canada. I was one of them.</p>
<p>So this diaspora ties Canada to Armenia, and if the intention of the embassy is to cultivate this relationship then we have a lot to be thankful for. And as we mentioned earlier, the embassy opened at a very tough time in the life of the Armenian republic.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what the mission of the embassy in Armenia is, and why Canada decided to open the embassy at this point in time?</li>
<li>What are the main projects and initiatives that you hope to accomplish during your tenure in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>When minister Melanie Joly announced Canada’s plans to open the embassy, the initial press release <a href="https://oc-media.org/canadian-statement-on-new-yerevan-embassy-sparks-russian-ire/">stated</a> that one of the reasons for it was to: <em>“counter Russia’s destabilizing activities”</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe Russia’s activities in Armenia are of a “destabilizing” nature?</li>
</ul>
<p>In his Armenian Independence day <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1120204.html">message</a> on 9/21/23 prime minister Trudeau said priorities included: _“ …advancing Armenia’s democratic development and promoting inclusive economic growth and new opportunities for people in both countries.” _</p>
<pre><code>(Note: “… Together, in forums such as the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, we continue to promote democracy, peace, and security around the world.”)
</code></pre>
<p>Unlike the painful, centuries-old experience of Western states in building peace,  Armenia lives next door to a country that is 25 times its size in population, committed Genocide against Armenians, never recognized or atoned, in fact actively works to deny the Genocide around the world, and in the past few years cabinet level people in Turkey have threatened Armenia by saying they are ready to finish the job they started in 1915. So I hope you can see how our past, our history, colors our perception and present politics.</p>
<p>And we’re not even talking about the eastern front where Azerbaijan is flat out calling  Armenia “western Azerbaijan”.</p>
<pre><code>(Note: People say that you Armenians need to leave the past behind and look forward and prosper; but without recognition from Turkey, the past IS our present, it was never able to fade into history.)
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So advancing democracy is great. But probably Armenia’s greatest need right now is security. How can Canada help?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia’s current security architecture is centered on Russia and the CSTO. Pashinyan evidently wants to pivot this towards the West. At the minimum, Armenian authorities are talking about a “non-block” status.</p>
<p>As Armenia moved from words to actions (such as inviting the Russian border guards out of the Zvartnots airport and effectively boycotting the CSTO), previously passive statements from Western leaders have now turned into overt encouragement and <a href="https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/question/16387/armenia-collective-security-treaty-organization">vows of support </a>against “Russian threats”.</p>
<p>Last week Toivo Klaar, the EU special rep to the South Caucasus, said that the west wants Turkey to be the regional leader. To Armenians this is like appointing the wolf to be the shepherd, guarding the flock: Armenia’s security problems ARE Turkey, and Azerbaijan. Armenians don’t worry about invasions from Iran, or Georgia, or Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can the US and the EU do for Armenia’s security?</li>
<li>Can the West “replace” Russia in providing Armenia with security?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h3>
<p>Artsakh, or Nagorno Karabakh, was ethnically cleansed in September. For Armenians this is a major calamity. The biggest since 1915.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the Canadian government’s position on how the issue of Artsakh should be resolved?</li>
<li>How can Canada help put indigenous Armenians back in their homes and their homeland?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-monitoring-mission">EU Monitoring Mission</h2>
<p>In the wake of Azeri invasions in 2022, Pashinyan invited EU observers to watch Armenia’s borders with Azerbaijan. The size of the mission grew from an initial 50 observers to <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/eu-increase-monitoring-mission-armenia/32726058.html">several hundred observers</a>. In October 2023, Canada announced that it was contributing observers as well. But the number of people contributed by Canada was <a href="https://en.armradio.am/2023/10/26/two-canadian-observers-to-joint-eu-mission-in-armenia/">reported</a> as only “two”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the EU observers doing in Armenia, what is their main objective?</li>
<li>What was the reasoning for Canada to join this mission?</li>
<li>Is this the first time that a non-EU member state has been officially included in an EU monitoring mission? Is it possible that other non-EU states (such as Turkey) may join the mission?</li>
<li>Who is the EUMA protecting Armenia from, who is the enemy?</li>
<li>What are the success metrics established for the Canadian engagement in mission?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="concerns-from-russia-and-iran">Concerns from Russia and Iran?</h3>
<p>Russia and Iran have expressed growing concern towards the EUMA, more like increasingly strident warnings to Pashinyan and his team, that extra-regional forces are not welcome in the South Caucasus, and that issues should be resolved regionally; essentially the so-called “3+3” countries.</p>
<p>We’ve talked with Iranian analysts who say that Tehran suspects such a mission could be used against Iran as well.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think about these warnings from Armenia’s traditional allies?</li>
<li>Can the EUMA give evidentiary assurances to Iran, that the mission is not pointed at them?</li>
<li>What will the EUMA do in case of an Azeri invasion?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-prisoners">Political Prisoners</h2>
<p>Canada is vocal about specific prisoners&rsquo; rights in states such as Iran, Russia, China. But Canada has been silent on the issue of imprisonment and harassment of Pashinyan’s political opponents:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Armen Grigoryan</strong> died in court after repeated refusal by the judicial system to remove his pretrial detention or at least agree to reduced severity of punishment, such as “house arrest”.
<ul>
<li>He was arrested because he apparently called people of a certain region “Turks”. That was deemed as inciting hatred by Pashinyan’s law enforcement bodies.</li>
<li>If you ask me, this appears very similar to Navalny’s death.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Armen Ashotyan</strong>, Vice President of the Republican Party of Armenia, the chief political opponent of Pashinyan, has been jailed for almost a year now, in a corruption case. A case that according to some human rights defenders is baseless.
<ul>
<li>Armen Ashotyan’s pretrial detention conditions are very strict. His visitation rights are very curtailed.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, the former minister of economy, against whom a criminal case was opened recently, was given house arrest.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does Canada recognize there are political prisoners in Armenia?</li>
<li>Is the issue of political prisoners on the Armenian-Canadian agenda?</li>
<li>Is Canada working actively to help free Armenian POWs still in Azerbaijan, since the 44-day war, as well as since September 2023?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="canadian-military-supplies-to-turkey">Canadian Military Supplies to Turkey</h2>
<p>During the 44-day war in Artsakh in 2020, Azerbaijan used Turkish Bayraktar drones, and it was discovered that they use Canadian products for vision and camera parts. Canada blocked those exports. (Thank you for that by the way!)</p>
<p>In late 2023, as Sweden was vying for NATO membership, it was held up by Turkey, reportedly <a href="https://eurasianet.org/canada-deepens-engagement-with-armenia-as-it-ponders-lifting-embargo-on-turkey">in exchange</a> for dropping the various bans on exports to Turkey, among them the Canadian parts.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Mr. Ambassador, can you tell us what factors went into the decision making process in this case?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.
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Episode 315 | Recorded: March 12, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="georgia-armenia-partnership--politics-in-the-south-caucasus">Georgia, Armenia, Partnership &amp; Politics in the South Caucasus</h1>
<p>Archil, since it’s the first time you’re on the show, we’d appreciate learning a little more about your background. Can you tell us your areas of interest?</p>
<h2 id="georgian-nationalism--identity">Georgian Nationalism &amp; Identity</h2>
<p>Archil, when initially we were planning this interview, we asked you for a profile picture and you said to not expect one in a suit. And that sparked a number of interesting tangential discussions about conservatism and nationalism in Georgia.</p>
<p>Many Armenians know Georgians as some of the most conservative and nationalistic among the ex-Soviet countries. This national identity is the driving force that makes Georgians see themselves as distinct from Russia, and associate instead with opponents of Russian centers of influence.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Perhaps we’re being too simplistic, but can you help paint a picture of Georgian nationalism and how it helped form Georgian identity and current political sentiments that help define the country’s policies?</li>
</ul>
<p>Modern relations between Georgia and Armenia are by and large cordial but generally not particularly warm.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>For two nations that are so highly intertwined and for so long in history, why aren’t Armenians and Georgians better friends and allies?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgian-and-armenian-relations-post-2018">Georgian and Armenian Relations Post 2018</h2>
<p>I want to ask you about <a href="https://russiancouncil.ru/en/blogs/archil-sikharulidze/a-reaction-and-a-reasoning-of-georgian-political-establishments-backla/">an article</a> you wrote, published by RIAC about the Georgian reaction to the 2018 regime change in Armenia.</p>
<p>You highlighted the surprise within the Georgian political establishment at the events unfolding in Armenia but also their lack of proactive engagement with the situation. While some elements of the Georgian opposition expressed solidarity with the Armenian movement, overall there was a disconnect between Georgian elites and the developments in Armenia.</p>
<p>To be honest, looking at the issue from the other side, one can say that many Armenians also show little interest in the events that occurred in Georgia, for example in 2003 and since. So the sentiment may be mutual, but it is rather puzzling.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How were the 2018 events in Armenia perceived in Georgia? And also how did you personally view them?</li>
<li>Do you believe that Georgia’s strategic relationships with Azerbaijan and Turkey contributed to this sort of curtain dividing Armenia and Georgia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-accession">EU Accession</h2>
<p>On 14 December 2023, the EU accepted Georgia’s application for candidate status. Yet, one can imagine that Georgia’s journey to EU accession is just beginning.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How complex is the process? What are the major requirements set by the EU? And how long will it take?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia’s (and Ukraine’s) membership candidacy comes in the midst of a brutal war that is now 2 years old with no end in sight. In this context, there is immense pressure from the major warring sides to pull countries in their direction. So far, Georgia has managed to successfully navigate these turbulent diplomatic waters.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>From our previous podcast, our guest said that he doesn’t believe Georgia was so successful. So I guess we should ask… Do you concur?</li>
<li>What do you think has contributed to this diplomatic success?</li>
<li>Unlike Georgia, Armenia’s government has not managed to walk the fine line between the warring sides. Why is that?</li>
</ul>
<p>This past week officials have talked more openly about <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32857045.html">Armenia seeking EU membership</a>. Russia has responded rather bluntly.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Russia’s response and policy towards Georgia’s EU membership?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia’s military is already very much integrated with NATO. And I’m sure many Georgian political forces would support deepening that by official membership. We know that Russia gets extremely irritated when a NATO official praises Armenia for some policy or some other collaboration. We also know Russia’s insistence on having a neutral Ukraine on its borders and this could be cited as one of the main reasons for the war in Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the Russian red lines vis-a-vis Georgia&rsquo;s potential for joining NATO?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---georgia-strategic-partnership">Armenia - Georgia Strategic Partnership</h2>
<p>On January 26, Pashinyan <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/579098#:~:text=The%20Armenian%20delegation%20headed%20by,his%20Georgian%20counterpart%20Irakli%20Garibashvili.">was in Tbilisi</a>, and met with Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Gharibashvili. A strategic partnership agreement was <a href="https://jam-news.net/armenia-georgia-strategic-partnership-step-forward-or-formality/">signed</a> between the two countries that encompasses nearly a dozen spheres, excluding defense. But even after a month, little is known about the contents of the agreement.</p>
<p>Pretty much all Armenians place a high value on improving relations with Georgia but many of us want to know what real benefits this deal will provide. Additionally, different analysts have differing interpretations of this development: some claim that this is a step in the direction of pulling Armenia more towards the west; while others say that this move will benefit the Iran-Armenia-Georgia geopolitical axis and economic North-South corridor, strengthening relations with Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why isn’t there more information about the content of this strategic partnership?</li>
<li>How is this partnership seen by Russia and Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="military-cooperation">Military Cooperation</h3>
<p>During the 44 day war, Georgia actually blocked military supplies from Russia to Armenia. Even during the latest shipment of French “Bastion” APCs (armored personnel carriers), there was news that the shipment was held up in Georgia until Paris twisted Tbilisi’s arms. Meanwhile on a weekly basis we see military supplies from countries like Israel and Turkey pass unfettered through Georgian airspace and territory, on their way to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was defense cooperation left out of the signed strategic partnership?</li>
<li>Georgia has defense cooperation agreements with Azerbaijan. Will those agreements continue to trump Armenian-Georgian cooperation?</li>
<li>Can this upgrade in relations help Armenia achieve a more balanced stance by Georgia as a military and non-military crossroads for itself and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes.
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* Geopolitical U-turn in Armenia?
* Iran Armenia Relations
* Anti-Iranian Propaganda from NGOs
Episode 314 | Recorded: March 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="evolving-geopolitics-in-the-south-caucasus">Evolving Geopolitics in the South Caucasus</h1>
<h2 id="iran-parliamentary-elections">Iran Parliamentary Elections</h2>
<p>On March 1, 2024 Iran held parliamentary elections. The turnout of these elections was 41% which, based on our understanding, indicates that many of the seats in the Majles will go to a 2nd round of voting scheduled in May. Additionally, we understand that many seats were won by conservative candidates.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What should regional, and also global, actors expect from the outcome of these elections?</li>
<li>Is it possible that the leader of Iran might change?</li>
<li>How likely are foreign policy changes based on these elections?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-u-turn-in-armenia">Geopolitical U-Turn in Armenia?</h2>
<p>When the 2018 regime change happened in Armenia, there were many speculations about the future geopolitical direction of the new government, specifically that Armenia was going to make a u-turn to the west.. After the 2020 war and especially after the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in September 2023, it seems Armenia is making steadfast and accelerated steps in a direction away from its security cooperation with the CSTO and Russia, in what Pashinyan’s government calls “security diversification,” but which in reality clearly looks like a divorce.</p>
<p>It is important to highlight that a recent MPG poll found that over 58% of Armenians do not see these moves as corresponding to Armenian security interests, and 37% agree with the government.</p>
<p>All this is being done in the context of constant and increasingly open and aggressive threats from Azerbaijan about attacking Armenia and forcing a corridor through Syunik. In reality, they have their sights on all of Armenia through Aliyev’s “Western Azerbaijan” propaganda.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Russian and Iranian officials define their relations as very close. More recently the relations have been elevated to a strategic alliance since the Ukraine war, when Russia began to rely more heavily on Iran for military cooperation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is Iran viewing Armenia’s potential change of security architecture?</li>
<li>Given Armenia’s geographic neighborhood, is a change of security architecture a realistic goal?</li>
<li>Georgia has recently been granted candidacy for EU membership. Is Georgia’s security orientation also a concern for Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-armenia-relations">Iran-Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>In the context of Armenia’s antagonism with Russia, the role of Iran in Armenia’s future security architecture seems at once both crucial, as well as in question. Armenian officials praise Iran’s role in the “diversification” of Armenia’s foreign policy, but at the same time it seems that the Pashinyan regime is obviously holding back from deeper cooperation. For instance, it has been reported that Armenia has refused Iranian offers to obtain military supplies.</p>
<p>Over the past few months, Armenian and Iranian officials have been engaged in an intense series of high level meetings. In February, Deputy Prime Minister, <a href="https://iran.mfa.am/en/news/2024/02/14/armenian-deputy-prime-minister-mher-grigoryan-visited-the-islamic-republic-of-iran/12580">Mher Grigoryan was in Iran</a>. Last week, Armenia’s Defense Minister, Suren Papikyan, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32850808.html">visited</a> Iran. Deputy Foreign Minister <a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2024/03/09/political_consultations_Arm_Iran/12543">Vahan Kostanyan was also in Tehran</a> just over this past weekend. Iranian officials have also visited Armenia recently, including Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian who <a href="https://en.mfa.ir/portal/newsview/737196/Iran-FM-in-Yerevan-for-talks-with-Armenian-officials">was in Yerevan just this last December 2023</a>.</p>
<p>Publicly, the only consistent message that is being communicated is that Iran is against the influence of foreign forces in the security of the region.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Of course, it&rsquo;s great to meet and collaborate on accelerating mutual foreign policy goals. However, is this the reason that Armenian and Iranian officials are meeting so frequently or are these meetings trying to reconcile differences and potential conflicts?</li>
<li>Why is Iran concerned about an observer mission by the EU in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>Iran has also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121155.html">proposed</a> stationing monitors (to replace the EU monitors) on Armenia’s borders.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is a red line and what is tolerable by Iran?
<ul>
<li>French radars deployed in Armenia?</li>
<li>Indian military supplies to Armenia?</li>
<li>Azerbaijani excursion into Armenia? Invasion of Armenia?
<ul>
<li>Note that Azerbaijan is already 200 sq.km. inside Armenia, at what point does it trigger Iran?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>While deputy FM Kostanyan was in Tehran, both sides <a href="https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2024/03/10/3052595/iran-armenia-ties-benefit-regional-security-amirabdollahian">called</a> for expanded and closer relations. Are these feelgood statements, or is there a concrete plan of action, and agenda behind such statements?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="economic-relations">Economic Relations</h3>
<p>On January 2 of this year, Iran <a href="https://www.intellinews.com/iran-eeu-sign-historic-free-trade-agreement-306057/#:~:text=The%20Iran%2DEurasian%20Economic%20Union,party%2C%20exempt%20from%20tariff%20elimination">signed</a> a historic free trade agreement with the EAEU, with which its sole adjacent border is through Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your perspective on the decline in Armenian-Russian relations, amidst blooming relations between Iran, Russia and the rest of the EAEU countries?</li>
</ul>
<p>As far as economic relations are concerned, Iran and Russia have made strides in their North-South connectivity through Azerbaijan. Iran has said that multiple routes for the North-South economic corridor would be ideal. There have been some advances in connecting to the Black Sea through Armenia and Georgia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you see issues in the progress or realization of the INSTC through Armenia?</li>
<li>Has Iran’s consulate in Kapan, Armenia’s south, started making a difference?</li>
<li>How do you assess the influence of Azerbaijan on Iran’s regional policies, once the North-South economy picks up through it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="anti-iranian-propaganda-by-ngos">Anti-Iranian Propaganda by NGOs</h2>
<p>Over the past 2 weeks, the <strong>Union of Informed Citizens</strong>, one of the most powerful and well-financed foreign-supported <strong>NGO</strong>s in Armenia, has been engaged in anti-Iranian propaganda, including social media postings as well as videos.</p>
<p>This NGO is led by Daniel Ioannisyan, who seems to enjoy the sponsorship of the Pashinyan regime, as the Armenian government has frequently engaged Ioannisyan in various projects, the most prominent being the “rewrite” of the Armenian constitution.</p>
<p>What was the content of these videos?</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L_jzePsgXs">One of the videos</a> claims that Iran is not interested in a strong Armenia.</li>
<li>Meanwhile <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh4H6Djeg70">another one</a> presents Iran as an ally of forces such as Hezbollah.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the timing and content of this anti-Iranian material?</li>
<li>Is a weak Armenia in Iran’s interest?</li>
<li>How do such things affect Armenian-Iranian relations? Or do they?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP313]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/313-dziunik-aghajanian-armenian-news-negotiations-with-azerbaijan-iran-warnings-european-union/</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14673729-dziunik-aghajanian-vazgen-sargsyan-stalled-with-enemies-and-allies-looking-for-new-friends-ep-313-mar-10-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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* Economic Diversification
* Fish Rots from the Head
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* Economic Diversification
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Episode 313 | Recorded: Mar 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="celebrating-a-hero-vazgen-sargsyan">Celebrating A Hero: Vazgen Sargsyan</h2>
<p>This week was the birthday of Vazgen Sargsyan, the first Defense Minister of Armenia who also served as Prime Minister of Armenia until his assassination in 1999.</p>
<p>This was the 65th anniversary of the birth of the national hero, who is credited with building the Armenian army that was later responsible for the glorious victory in the first Artsakh war. He is referred to with the honorary title of “Sparapet”.</p>
<p>It is quite ironic that as prime minister, Pashinyan visits the gravesite of the sparapet every year for PR purposes. It is ironic on many grounds, not the least being that as a young “yellow” journalist, Pashinyan frequently wrote <a href="https://yerevan.today/all/politics/96313/99-tvakanin-pashinyany-anhayt-shrdjanakneri-patverov-arshav-er-sksel-vazgen-sargsyani-dem">smear pieces</a> criticizing Sargsyan.</p>
<p>So if before the 2020 war, the public perception of Pashinyan was that of being one of Vazgen Sargsyan’s biggest detractors, I wonder what is Pashinyan’s status vis-a-vis Sargsyan after 2020 and especially after 2023?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Dziunik, your thoughts?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="stalled-with-enemies">Stalled with Enemies</h2>
<p>Over the course of the past week, Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32852918.html">confirmed</a> that the Armenian-Azerbaijani foreign ministerial meetings in Munich two weeks ago recorded no progress. This means that Armenia’s relations with Turkey are also on pause as Turkish officials have repeatedly stated that any serious progress in Turkish-Armenian so-called “normalization” is dependent on meeting Azerbaijani demands.</p>
<p>So what are the Azerbaijani demands? In his <a href="https://youtu.be/2YI3tH_vRnU">interview</a> with TRT, Ararat Mirzoyan spelled those out:</p>
<ul>
<li>He said that Azerbaijan refuses to recognize territorial integrity of Armenia based on Alma Ata, expressing concern that Azerbaijan has further ambitions against Armenia.</li>
<li>He also said that Azerbaijan wants a third force to be stationed along the “corridors” through Armenia that they’re planning on using.</li>
<li>Also, Mirzoyan said that Azerbaijan demands that Azerbaijanis can criss-cross Armenia to Nakhijevan without any passport, customs, or other related checks.</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile, in the past Armenia has suggested that a non-Armenian company be contracted to do the border control duties. Other Armenian officials have suggested that there could be “simplified procedures” for Azerbaijan, or that other creative technology solutions can be found to alleviate the concerns of Azeris from seeing Armenians on their ride through Armenia.</p>
<p>Mirzoyan, in his TRT interview also stated however, that no one can enter Armenia “without registration”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So trying to put 2 and 2 together, am I right to understand that Armenia is trying to offer Azerbaijan a version of the “corridor” where Azerbaijanis can enter Armenia through some nominal registration system where they don’t ever see an Armenian? How is this supposed to work and what are the risks of such a system?</li>
</ul>
<p>At the same time as Antalya was happening, the border commissions of the two countries also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32852851.html">met</a> apparently without any prior announcement and without any details released afterwards. This is in stark contrast to the previous meeting of Mher Grigoryan and Shahin Mustafayev at the end of January where the announcement of the meeting was made weeks ahead of time.</p>
<p>The only thing known about this meeting is from Shahin Mustafayev from the Azeri side, who immediately after that meeting said they demand <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32850691.html">unilateral concessions</a> of territory even before the delimitation process starts and seemed to indicate that Armenia will concede to these demands.</p>
<p>Azerbaijan has blocked all avenues of progress, such as refusing to agree on maps to base border discussions on, yet saying that progress depends on determining a border, and refusing to return territories of over 31 villages it has occupied on sovereign Armenian territory since the 44-day war, claiming that they are “not occupying any Armenian territory.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan demanding <strong>unilateral concessions</strong> before delimitation has started?</li>
<li>What is the significance of these “villages” for Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Are there indications that Armenian authorities are planning to concede to these demands?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="stalled-with-allies">Stalled with Allies</h2>
<p>Given Armenia’s actions to pivot towards the west, its neighboring allies, Iran and Russia have given Pashinyan’s government increasingly strong warnings.</p>
<p>The Armenian and Iranian <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32850808.html">defense ministers met</a> this past week, and Iran reiterated that extra-regional actors are not welcome in the South Caucasus. In fact, Iran itself has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121155.html">proposed</a> in the past stationing monitors (to replace the EU monitors) on Armenia’s borders.</p>
<p>The Iran factor is very important and so besides Suren Papikyan over the past 2 weeks a large parade of Armenian officials has been in Iran, including:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://iran.mfa.am/en/news/2024/02/14/armenian-deputy-prime-minister-mher-grigoryan-visited-the-islamic-republic-of-iran/12580">Deputy PM Mher Grigoryan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mfa.am/en/press-releases/2024/03/09/political_consultations_Arm_Iran/12543">Deputy Foreign Minister Vahan Kostanyan</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Iranian officials have also been to Yerevan recently. Throughout all these meetings, the messaging has been repeated and consistent: don’t bring in outside forces to the region.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Meeting with your friends frequently is a good thing. But, something tells me that the frequency of Armenian visits to Iran is not entirely about close friendship. Your thoughts Dziunik?</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile, through <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32849177.html">foreign ministerial discussions</a> between Mirzoyan and Lavrov, the Russian MFA has dangled both <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32850446.html">sticks</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1131891.html">carrots</a>, trying to get the Armenian government to stop and think harder.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>To all indications, these warnings are falling on deaf ears. We’re not seeing the Armenian government cooperate appreciably with either Russia or Iran. What’s the outlook in these relations going forward?</li>
</ul>
<p>In Antalya, Lavrov and Bairamov reiterated that the November 2020 trilateral agreement is the appropriate basis for further negotiations.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the state of that agreement?</li>
<li>How should Armenia respond to such an “invitation”?</li>
<li>What can Russia contribute as a mediator between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-is-arming">Azerbaijan is Arming</h2>
<p>When we say that Azerbaijan has blocked all avenues of progress or when we use the word “stalled”, please don’t misinterpret it as a sign that Baku is pushing for or is satisfied with the current status quo. They’re actively arming themselves, as evident with more weapons flights from Bulgaria, Israel, and Turkey. Just last week, Azerbaijan held huge exercises in Nakhijevan.</p>
<h2 id="new-friends">New “Friends”?</h2>
<p>In the <a href="https://youtu.be/2YI3tH_vRnU?si=eiDSDkoJHaZtlvPH">interview with the TRT</a> in Antalya, Mirzoyan said a few other things hinting at a U-turn in Armenia’s foreign policy. He said that Armenia is significantly deepening its relations with the EU and potential membership in the EU is also being discussed. This is against the backdrop of other moves Armenia has made, such as “freezing” its activity in the CSTO, threatening to leave the CSTO, and also inviting the Russians out of the Zvartnots airport, where the Russian border troops perform customs control duties.</p>
<p>In the past, Pashinyan has said that Armenia would develop its relations as closely to the EU as the latter deems possible. There were also unconfirmed reports this week in Armenian <a href="https://mamul.am/am/news/287006">media</a> that Pashinyan has met with the Civil Contract team and informed them that his government will submit an application to join the EU by the end of the year.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Things are moving fast it seems. How likely do you think Armenia&rsquo;s potential request to officially join the EU?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia’s anti-CSTO gesturing apparently received some support this week, from the UK of all places. James Heappey, Minister of State (Ministry of Defence) (Minister for the Armed Forces), <a href="https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/question/16387/armenia-collective-security-treaty-organization">said the following</a> about Armenia’s anti-CSTO moves:</p>
<pre><code>_“The UK recognises this decision as Armenia's sovereign right and will work with Euro-Atlantic allies to support Armenia in the face of Russian threats of retaliation._

_The UK is a signatory of the OSCE arms embargo, and as such any benefits to UK defence industry must occur within the mandated restrictions. We will continue to work closely with Armenia to explore opportunities for closer cooperation.”_
</code></pre>
<p>EU and Western officials in the past have been nuanced in the past about not being able to provide security guarantees to Armenia and have tried not to directly encourage Armenia to leave the CSTO for this purpose.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What has changed? Are western officials now openly encouraging Armenia to leave the CSTO or is Heappey’s statement an anomaly?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
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<p>Arthur last week we were talking with <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/guest/smelkonian">Sergei Melkonian</a> about the Russian-Armenian <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/wZOA2IVtRmE?si=8Cb7dKrKOzCIfKAs">experts dialogue</a> that was held in Yerevan on February 24, where Russian and Armenian experts discussed the state of relations between the two countries. You were also there, so we thought we’d ask you the same as we asked Sergei.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was your overall impression of the dialogue?</li>
</ul>
<p>According to some Russian experts on the panel, Russia is currently conducting a “damage control” policy with regard to Armenia. In other words, a passive policy. At the same time, some of the experts blamed Armenia for the worsening relations.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were you able to detect any introspection by the Russians?</li>
<li>Do any of them accept that some of their own policies contributed to damaging the Armenian-Russian relationship?</li>
</ul>
<p>Sergei mentioned that Russian analysts generally agree that Russia’s decision to not support the Armenian opposition in 2021 was a mistake.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you have more thoughts on that point that you can expand on?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="exit-from-csto">Exit from CSTO?</h2>
<p>Just this past week, in <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32841230.html">highly publicized comments</a> to the Armenian parliament, Pashinyan said that he was ready to pull out of the CSTO, and that the CSTO had become a “security threat” for Armenia. And to France24, he said that Russia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32841177.html">fomented unrest</a> in Armenia after the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in September 2023, hoping to cause a regime change.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the sense of the experts&rsquo; about such comments?</li>
<li>If Armenia were to formally exit the CSTO, what are the immediate dangers facing us?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<p>This past week Mirzoyan met with Bayramov in Berlin. After two days of discussions, apparently <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32842781.html">no results were achieved</a> and “open issues remain”. Azerbaijan is demanding  Armenian legislative and constitutional changes, and at least <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32844212.html">in words</a>, these are preconditions for signing an agreement.</p>
<p>Pashinyan’s government, also at least in words, is rejecting this. Note that they are not saying that they’re not going to make the changes to the Armenian constitution which will meet Aliyev&rsquo;s demands, but they’re saying that their changes are not related to Aliyev’s demands.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where do negotiations with Azerbaijan stand? What are the “open issues”, and why is nothing being achieved?</li>
<li>How high is the risk of war on Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="antalya-diplomatic-forum">Antalya Diplomatic Forum</h2>
<p>From Munich, both foreign ministers flew to Antalya for the annual diplomatic conference. Mirzoyan met with Turkish FM Hakan and reportedly discussed “normalization”.</p>
<p>Turkey has made it clear that “normalization” won’t go forward until Armenian capitulates to Azeri demands. What I read in their statements is that until Armenia hands over Syunik to Azerbaijan and becomes a city-principality centered around Yerevan, nothing’s going to move. Yet Pashinyan’s government goes around in circles promising and “hoping” that progress will soon be made, and Turkey will open a land border with Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>First of all: why? Do the Armenian people believe that an open Turkish border will be a panacea for something?</li>
<li>Whose agenda benefits from an open border with Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<p>In Antalya, Lavrov and Bayramov also met. Guess what they talked about? They highlighted their agreement about the importance of implementing the Nov. 2020 trilateral agreement. Certainly they are talking about point 9.</p>
<p>There has been a systematic failure to implement that agreement from points 1 through 8. If I were the leader of Armenia I’d be responding that we can talk about point 9, right after points 1 through 8 are implemented. And this means putting 144 thousands Artsakhtsis back in their homes, opening the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, repatriating all Armenian POWs back to their families, and more.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s an appropriate response to Russia and Azerbaijan about this trilateral agreement pressure?</li>
</ul>
<p>Earlier you said that Russia sees Turkey as a counter-balance to the west. The following <a href="https://radar.am/en/news/world-2618532138/">statement</a> statement comes from Toivo Klaar, EU Special Representative for the South Caucasus, in Antalya:</p>
<pre><code>In addition to the involvement of the EU, we are also waiting for Turkey and its regional leadership to become involved. &quot;Ankara can have a strong influence in opening communication channels in the region and asserting the role of its dominant power in the region,&quot;
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What should we make of this statement?</li>
<li>Is it reasonable for anyone today to question Turkey’s loyalties to the West and NATO?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="edmon-marukyan-resigns">Edmon Marukyan Resigns</h2>
<p>Since 2022 Edmon Marukyan has been an “ambassador-at-large” for Pashinyan. Most of what we see as output from him are tweets and statements that generally appear to be something Pashinyan wanted to say, but didn’t want it to come from the prime minister’s office. Despite the fact that Marukyan led the opposition <strong>Bright Armenia</strong> party, <strong>Լուսավոր Հայաստան</strong>, most observers do not consider him or the party a true opposition to Pashinyan.</p>
<p>On Friday Marukyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32844042.html">cited</a> “foreign policy differences” as the reason for parting ways with Pashinyan. He has not elaborated on what those differences are.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a serious parting of ways, or could there be a more hidden agenda behind this resignation? For example I read a 168 article which was speculating the possibility of running for office in a presumed “early election”?</li>
<li>Can you guess what these “foreign policy differences” be? There haven’t been any notable changes in the Pashinyan administration’s foreign policy over the past year. Why at this time?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Armenia’s suicidal behavior during Russia/West global crisis</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: How will we pull ourselves out of this morass, who will step up?</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong>: Edmon Marukyan, come on our show and explain your resignation</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/312/thumbnail-312.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/312/thumbnail-312.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14627842-arthur-khachikyan-russian-armenian-experts-dialog-exit-from-csto-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-edmon-marukyan-resigns-ep-312-mar-3-2024.mp3" length="36867156" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3069</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - French Connection | Russian-Armenian Experts Dialog | Negotiations &amp; Risk of War | Ep 311 - Feb 25, 2024
[EP311]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/311-sergei-melkonian-french-armenian-defense-cooperation-misak-manouchian-russian-relations-risk-of-war-with-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14591953-sergei-melkonian-french-connection-russian-armenian-dialog-negotiations-risk-of-war-ep-311-feb-25-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>311</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - French Connection | Russian-Armenian Experts Dialog | Negotiations &amp; Risk of War | Ep 311 - Feb 25, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - February 25, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* French Connection
* Russian-Armenian Dialog
* Negotiations and Risk of War
Episode 311 | Recorded: February 27, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* French Connection
* Russian-Armenian Dialog
* Negotiations and Risk of War
Episode 311 | Recorded: February 27, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* French Connection
* Russian-Armenian Dialog
* Negotiations and Risk of War
Episode 311 | Recorded: February 27, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="french-connection">French Connection</h2>
<h3 id="missak-manouchian">Missak Manouchian</h3>
<p>On February 21, the French government held a historic ceremony where the remains of Missak Manouchian (and his wife Meline) were interred in the Panthéon in Paris. Manouchian was an Armenian genocide survivor who during the second world war joined the French resistance and led a number of daring operations that liquidated more than a 100 Nazis.</p>
<p>This is a pretty big honor. Manouchian is now in the company of the great Frenchmen like Voltaire, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Marie Curie, Alexandre Dumas and others. This event was covered widely in the French press. Pashinyan was invited and attended.</p>
<p>The day before the Manouchian ceremony, France’s defense minister, Sébastien Lecornu, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32832694.html">paid a visit</a> to Armenia.</p>
<p>Lecornu <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32832694.html">confirmed</a> that just the night before, Armenia had received a shipment of French night vision equipment. He also promised that soon they will deliver air defense radar systems and more of the Bastion APCs that Armenia had ordered last year. The French also promised training for the weapons and joint military exercises with Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did the French government decide to re-bury and honor Missak Manouchian now?</li>
<li>How is Russia reacting to these French weapon deliveries?</li>
<li>Is Iran uneasy about these weapons, especially radar systems? Do they worry that these weapons are essentially a “NATO eye” on the border of Iran?</li>
</ul>
<p>There were also <a href="https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/armenie-le-grand-ecart-253311">reports</a> that Pashinyan and Macron inked an intelligence sharing deal between France’s Directorate-General for External Security and Armenia’s newly found External Intelligence Agency.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What&rsquo;s known about this deal, considering Pashinyan appears to be in constant touch with the CIA and MI6?</li>
<li>Are the potential benefits of such a U-turn away from our traditional allies, Russia and Iran worth the benefits we may receive?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="military-supplies-zelensky">Military Supplies, Zelensky</h3>
<p>While in Paris, Pashinyan gave an interview to France 24. We’ll skip the part of the interview where he praises Manouchian, a fighter against the Nazi occupation regime in France. Although we do ask, what would Manouchian do if he found himself in Armenia, today.</p>
<p>Anyway, Pashinyan as always made several controversial statements about geopolitics:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, when asked about the Ukraine conflict, for the 2nd time he reiterated that on the matter of the Ukraine war, Armenia and Russia were not allies.</li>
<li>He went further, by saying that Russia is violating Ukraine’s territorial integrity defined by the 1991 Alma Ata declaration.</li>
<li>And lastly, he said that Armenia has frozen its participation in the CSTO alliance. A claim that was later denied by the CSTO, saying they’ve never received any request from Armenia to freeze its participation.</li>
</ul>
<p>It is widely being reported that Vladimir Zelensky is planning a visit to Armenia in March.~~ ~~Other sources have reported that Zelensky will also visit Azerbaijan. With the exception of the Baltic countries, no post-Soviet country has hosted Zelensky since the beginning of the war, so this is a pretty big deal and will certainly raise the ire of Putin.</p>
<p>On one hand, as we reported last week, the Armenian authorities are not ruling out their intention to arrest Putin. On another hand, they’re inviting Putin’s enemy Zelensky to visit Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What could Pashinyan&rsquo;s goal be in these unnecessary and provocative statements, culminating with the news about Zelensky’s visit?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="expert-discussions-on-russian---armenian-relations">Expert Discussions on Russian - Armenian Relations</h2>
<p>Sergei, on Saturday February 24, there was a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/wZOA2IVtRmE?si=8Cb7dKrKOzCIfKAs">major discussion</a> held between Russian and Armenian experts on the state of relations between the two countries. You and your colleagues from the Armenian project were in attendance.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your overall impression of the dialogue?</li>
</ul>
<p>According to some Russian experts on the panel, Russia is currently conducting a “damage control” policy with regard to Armenia. In other words, a passive policy. At the same time, some of the experts blamed Armenia itself for worsening relations between two countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were you able to detect any introspection by the Russians?</li>
<li>Do any of them accept that some of their policies have contributed to damaging the Armenian-Russian relationship?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="risk-of-new-war">Risk of New War</h2>
<p>This week, Azerbaijan has again increased its fake reports that Armenians have been shooting at them, a common M.O. before Azerbaijan  escalates the situation.</p>
<p>In Munich, Pashinyan said that with Aliyev they were able to re-establish all the previous commitments. Then in interviews with the media he goes to say that Azerbaijan wants to start a new war.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So which is it? Are we headed for peace or new military conflict? And if it’s the latter, how likely is a new war?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/311/thumbnail-311.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/311/thumbnail-311.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14591953-sergei-melkonian-french-connection-russian-armenian-dialog-negotiations-risk-of-war-ep-311-feb-25-2024.mp3" length="30028529" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2500</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Armenia Security in Danger | Munich Security Conference | Relations with Regional Allies | Ep 310 - Feb 18, 2024
[EP310]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/310-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-security-in-danger-munich-security-conference-relations-with-regional-allies/</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14527843-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-security-in-danger-munich-security-conference-relations-with-regional-allies-ep-310-feb-18-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>310</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Armenia Security in Danger | Munich Security Conference | Relations with Regional Allies | Ep 310 - Feb 18, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - February 18, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia’s Security in Danger
* Munich Security Conference
* Relations with Regional Allies
Episode 310 | Recorded: February 18, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia’s Security in Danger
* Munich Security Conference
* Relations with Regional Allies
Episode 310 | Recorded: February 18, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia’s Security in Danger
* Munich Security Conference
* Relations with Regional Allies
Episode 310 | Recorded: February 18, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenias-security-in-danger">Armenia&rsquo;s Security in Danger</h2>
<p>Earlier this week 4 of our soldiers were shot dead on the border near Nerkin Hand, when Azerbaijan opened fire alleging that they were retaliating against Armenians firing at them the previous day. When Azerbaijan made the allegation, Pashinyan and Suren Papikyan responded that they would investigate the possible violation of their rules that Armenian soldiers will not fire on Azerbaijan, and if true, they would prosecute the soldiers. Later they claimed that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1130462.html">Azerbaijan made false claims</a>, but serious damage was already done to Armenia’s credibility. Even EU foreign policy head Borrell gave Azerbaijan a huge boost by <a href="https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/armenia-press-remarks-high-representative-josep-borrell-after-eu-armenia-partnership-council_en">accepting</a> the unproven allegation that Armenians had shot at Azerbaijanis the day before and labeling the incident as “deplorable”, before saying that he thinks Azerbaijan’s bloody murder of 4 Armenians seems to be a  “disproportionate response”.</p>
<p>While this happened in Armenia, Mirzoyan was in Luxemburg, and now he and Pashinyan and Papikyan are in Munich for the annual Munich Security Conference. Alen Simonyan, meanwhile, <a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/164339">was on an official visit</a> to Bulgaria.</p>
<p>And we’re not even going to have time to address the domestic drama of ministers and deputy ministers being fired and jailed, or under house arrest; and opposition leaders held as political prisoners.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How high is the potential for war since Aliyev’s so-called “re-election” as president on February 7?</li>
<li>What is the country’s leadership doing around Europe, when the security situation in Armenia is, even <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32820940.html">according to Pashinyan</a> himself, at a critical juncture?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="munich-security-conference">Munich Security Conference</h2>
<p>In Munich, Pashinyan met with secretary of state <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1130560.html">Anthony Blinken</a>, MI-6 chief <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32823079.html">Richard Moore</a>, the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1130580.html">president</a> of Iraqi Kurdistan, and others. He also met with <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32823790.html">Aliyev</a> in a trilateral format with German chancellor <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azaerbaijan-pashinian-aliyev-meeting-scholz/32823878.html">Olaf Scholtz</a>. Allegedly Azerbaijan has pledged to resolve differences without new violence.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, former president Serge Sargsyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32822868.html">warned</a> that Pashinyan is agreeing to new concessions.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How should we interpret what we’re reading about the outcomes from this conference?</li>
<li>What are the topics of discussion between Pashinyan and Richard Moore? He keeps meeting with US and UK spy chiefs. Are they, as rumors suggest, overseeing the creation of Armenia&rsquo;s new foreign intelligence service?</li>
<li>One of Pashinyan’s <a href="https://www.armenpress.am/eng/news/1130498/">meetings</a> was with the prime minister of Kosovo, during the meeting he referred to his counterpart with the official title “Prime Minister of Kosovo”. Do you think that Armenia may recognize Kosovo’s independence soon? What potential benefits and drawbacks could such a move have?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-regional-allies">Relations with Regional Allies</h2>
<p>Two countries who were not in Munich: Russia and Iran, both of them vital neighbors and allies of Armenia, and both of them have been sounding major alarms of disapproval about Armenia’s current foreign policy direction. Frankly, I don’t think Armenia would exist today if it weren’t for Iran baring its teeth in defending its adjacency to Armenia as its own national security interest.</p>
<h3 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h3>
<p>Russia’s invitations for Armenia to negotiate in Moscow have fallen on deaf ears in Yerevan, while Aliyev has shown no interest in continuing negotiations mediated by the West; at least the US and France. After this week’s Azeri shootings, Russia again  asked both sides to show restraint, but it also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1130269.html">warned</a> Armenia that there are grave dangers awaiting it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were Serdyukov’s warnings about war on Armenia concerns, or a threat?
<ul>
<li>It certainly set off a public <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32822743.html">discussion</a> between a couple of Armenian and Russian parliamentarians.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan says that Armenia is only diversifying its security relations, not turning its back on Russia, as the latter claims. How do you assess this realignment, or diversification, or whatever this process is?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-in-the-icc">Armenia in the ICC</h3>
<p>Pashinyan’s interview to the Telegraph on February 11, was as usual, full of potentially dangerous revelations. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIePWF5ics">again confirmed</a> that Armenia doesn’t view membership in CSTO (or any other international security alliance) to be in Armenia’s strategic interests. This appears to be in line with ideas spread by others, such as Armen Grigoryan of the National Security Council, who say that Armenia should pursue a policy of neutrality.</p>
<p>During that same interview, Pashinyan was repeatedly asked if Armenia would arrest Putin, since Armenia is now a member of the ICC. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo6f2VNMscY">doggedly refused</a> a straight response, instead saying that he can’t interfere with Armenia&rsquo;s judicial &amp; law enforcement systems. This is from a guy who was recorded giving instructions to his National Security Service director to arrest his political opponents.</p>
<p>Another Armenian official, Yeghishe Kirakosyan, who represents Armenia on the international legal stage <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwTX22wR-_k">admitted</a> that some interpretations of international law could indicate that Armenia must arrest Putin if the latter sets foot on Armenian soil. Russians have warned many times that joining the ICC was an unfriendly act and Peskov <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/02/12/Peskov-about-Putin-s-possible-visit-to-Yerevan/1076394">reiterated</a> those claims this week.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Isn’t “guaranteed neutrality” what Azerbaijan and Turkey are demanding from Armenia? How can this stance be seen in-line with Armenia’s strategy?</li>
<li>Armenia’s relationship with Russia has been damaged significantly. How will membership in the ICC compensate for this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="relations-with-iran">Relations with Iran</h3>
<p>Iran has been very clear and vocal in its redlines. Iran has warned Azerbaijan and Turkey that it will not tolerate any border or sovereignty changes to Armenia. They’ve also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32821255.html">warned</a> Armenia that non-Regional actors are not welcome. Specifically the EUMA is a cause for concern to them.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are Armenia’s relations with Iran evolving since the Azeri ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in September 2023?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russia-artsakh-and-azerbaijan">Russia, Artsakh, and Azerbaijan</h3>
<p>Since Armenia dumped Artsakh and degraded its relations with Russia, Russia has realigned its strategy in the South Caucasus to have a tighter partnership with Azerbaijan. Russia is talking with Azerbaijan to arrange a right of return for Armenians of Artsakh back to their land.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a realistic dialog, or just a self-serving effort to keep Russian forces in Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Hoping that Armenian decision makers stop making strategic blunders</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Kerobyan’s arrest and Pashinyan’s fake fight against corruption</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/310/thumbnail-310.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/310/thumbnail-310.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14527843-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-security-in-danger-munich-security-conference-relations-with-regional-allies-ep-310-feb-18-2024.mp3" length="32011305" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2664</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Yerevan Politics | Aliyev “Elections”| Armenia &amp; Georgia | MPG Polls | Ep 309 - Feb 11, 2024
[EP309]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/309-hrant-mikaelian-mpg-poll-results-armenian-constitution-economy-politics-negotiations-with-azerbaijan/</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 00:06:59 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14488476-hrant-mikaelian-yerevan-politics-aliyev-elections-armenia-georgia-mpg-polls-ep-309-feb-11-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>309</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Yerevan Politics | Aliyev “Elections”| Armenia &amp; Georgia | MPG Polls | Ep 309 - Feb 11, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - February 11, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan City Politics
* Aliyev “Elections”
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
* Latest MPG Poll Review
Episode 309 | Recorded: Feb 11, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan City Politics
* Aliyev “Elections”
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
* Latest MPG Poll Review
Episode 309 | Recorded: Feb 11, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan City Politics
* Aliyev “Elections”
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
* Latest MPG Poll Review
Episode 309 | Recorded: Feb 11, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="yerevan-politics">Yerevan Politics</h2>
<h3 id="minority-rule-in-yerevan">Minority Rule in Yerevan</h3>
<p>On Thursday, the Yerevan Avagani (Council of Elders, or City Council) met to discuss the canceling of mandates of several opposition council members. The opposition had planned to boycott the council meeting and prevent a quorum, but two members of the Public Voice party joined the meeting and voted with Civil Contract and the Republic party to overcome quorum and also gave them the needed votes to <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129742.html">oust Hayk Marutyan</a>, a former mayor of Yerevan and leader of the second largest party in the council, as well as two other council members. Yet another two council members, including Zaruhi Postanjyan survived the vote.</p>
<p>There’s been a lot of acrimonious drama in the Yerevan city council since the September 2023 elections, which were also resolved in a similar manner: Civil Contract and the Republic party did not have the votes to appoint a mayor, and Public Voice party, then led by Vardan Ghukasyan, showed up for the vote and gave them quorum. As appreciation for his efforts, Ghukasyan and his cronies were booted from Public Voice in what amounted to a coup within the party.</p>
<p>Vardan Ghukasyan, by the way, is a controversial figure who came to fame through his scandal-ridden and obscenity-laden Facebook persona. He is believed to be outside Armenia and has the title of “honorable” leader of the party, essentially leading the members remotely. Incidentally, after the scandal with “Public Voice”, Ghukasyan started a new party called “DOK” which is an acronym for «Դեմոկրատիա, օրենք և կարգապահություն» (Democracy, Law, and Discipline) and also his street nickname.</p>
<p>Vahan Avagian, one of the Public Voice council people, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32809595.html">admitted</a> that they were summoned to the Investigative Committee on Tuesday, but would not say what happened there.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is going on with the Yerevan Avagani?</li>
<li>What is the deal with Public Voice (Հանրային Ձայն)? Are they a real party, or a shill for Civil Contract?
<ul>
<li>In 2023 they organized as a fresh new opposition party, but after the election in September they helped Civil Contract essentially pull a coup and install Tigran Avinyan with a minority of the votes, and now use the same tactics to oust opposition members who are able to block ruling party decisions.</li>
<li>Background info:
<ul>
<li>Hayots Hayrenik (<a href="https://medium.com/groong/the-vardan-ghukasyan-party-or-how-social-media-may-affect-armenian-elections-b7739e147355">polling 0.5% shortly before the 2021 elections</a>, <a href="https://res.elections.am/images/doc/reg20.06.21v.pdf">ended up winning 1.03% of the final vote</a>)</li>
<li>Public Voice (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/279-dziunik-aghajanian-un-security-council-artsakh-yerevan-elections/">polling 3.6% ahead of 2023 elections</a>, <a href="https://res.elections.am/images/forGenerals/Yerevan/protocol17.09.23v_24-09-2023.pdf">ended up winning 9.7% of the vote</a>)</li>
<li>Latest poll (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/309-hrant-mikaelian-mpg-poll-results-armenian-constitution-economy-politics-negotiations-with-azerbaijan/">3.6% this week</a>)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What’s the story with the party? They removed two of their founding leaders: Vardan Ghukasyan, and Artak Galstyan. On Thursday another one, Anush Ginosyan, left the party but said she’s stay in the city council as an “independent”.</li>
<li>Hayk Marutyan and Mayr Hayastan leader Andranik Tevanyan have been calling to hold fresh Yerevan elections. Do you think this is a realistic expectation under the current circumstances? What options are there to achieve a democratic city council?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="allegations-of-unprecedented-corruption-scheme-by-civil-contract">Allegations of “Unprecedented” Corruption Scheme by Civil Contract</h3>
<p>One of the biggest arguments of the supporters of the Pashinyan regime is that “at least we don’t have the corruption of the old times”. That was always a very subjective argument but recent <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2024/02/06/fake-names-on-list-of-donors-to-pashinyans-candidate-for-yerevan-mayor/#:~:text=Pashinyan's%20backers%20resorted%20to%20a,names%2C%20an%20investigation%20has%20revealed.">bombshell allegations</a> about political campaign contributions has been called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB3WTJyvVjc">unprecedented</a>” by even western watchdogs.</p>
<p>A <a href="https://infocom.am/hy/article/123299">report released by Infocom</a> talks about millions of drams being donated to Civil Contract’s campaign involving Tigran Avinyan, ahead of the 2023 elections in Yerevan. The party in total was able to raise over 1.25 million DOLLARS, this is over around 500 million Drams allegedly from common Yerevan residents.</p>
<p>Civil Contract fought back against requests to release the names of donors and when it finally did, after losing the court battle, Infocom was able to track down many donors, each of whom are reported to have donated millions of Drams, generally the maximum allowed which is 2.5 million Drams. However, when asked directly many of them denied making donations or recalled incidents when they were asked to sign bank slips indicating that they are making a cash donation. Many of the alleged donors lived in the same building or neighborhood or worked at the same company.</p>
<p>Just to sum it up, it appears that certain people convinced their neighbors or coworkers to falsely claim that the cash that was being donated to Civil Contract was being done by them.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment of this revelation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="aliyev-elections">Aliyev “Elections”</h2>
<h3 id="why-now">Why now?</h3>
<p>In Azerbaijan, “presidential elections” were scheduled for October of 2025, but 3 months ago Aliyev decided to hold them a couple of days ago, February 7. Elections are always a farce in Azerbaijan, and this time was no different; it was roundly <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-election-aliyev-landslide-irregularities-karabakh/32810371.html">slammed</a> by observing international agencies. For months now Aliyev has been jailing journalists, opposition members, activists, and even international observers.</p>
<p>As a result, he secured more than 92% of the vote based on so-called “initial results”. Why go to the trouble though… Hasn’t Aliyev been following the news in Yerevan, where you can get only 9% of the votes, not win a majority, and still be able to form a “majority government!”</p>
<p>Look, we all know that elections in Azerbaijan are like choosing your favorite flavor of expired mayonnaise: you can pick between rancid, spoiled, or chunky&hellip; but no matter what, you&rsquo;re still stuck with a nauseating taste! What we’d like to know is why now and what comes next.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the reason that Aliyev chose to hold snap elections now instead of October 2025?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-congratulates">EU Congratulates</h3>
<p>Since his “election” victory, Aliyev was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129906.html">congratulated</a> by the EU’s Charles Michel for a victory that the OSCE slammed as “neither free nor fair”. Let me re-emphasize this: we’re talking about the EUROPEAN Union’s co-president congratulating the so-called election of a dictator, whose election was slammed by the ORGANIZATION OF SECURITY AND COOPERATION OF EUROPE. What could be more hypocritical here?</p>
<p>Michel also said he “hoped” that Aliyev would return to Western sponsored talks with Armenia. Meanwhile Russia has further <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32811083.html">insisted</a> that Armenia must agree to come to talks in Moscow.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>It looks like both the west and Russia are turning up the pressure on Armenia and Azerbaijan to get back to talks, and each side demands that they broker the deal. Why?</li>
</ul>
<p>Incidentally, just as an in-your-face to Armenians, Aliyev and family voted in Stepanakert. What’s tragic about Aliyev is that can’t get over his need to come back to the capital of a country that he just ethnically cleansed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would talks now, after Aliyev’s renewed consolidation of power, be different from talks in the past year?</li>
<li>This past week we have again heard hints from Pashinyan allies that he may organize early elections. How would this change things, both within Armenia and also in the talks with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What does the future hold, how do you see the likelihood of a new war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-georgia-strategic-partnership">Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership</h2>
<p>On January 26 Pashinyan was in Tbilisi and met with Georgian prime minister Irakli Gharibashvili. The two signed a strategic partnership between the two countries, which apparently encompasses a dozen areas, but leaves out defense cooperation. We have not seen this document, and a Georgian expert we just talked to, David Darchiashvili, thinks that perhaps at this point in time it’s a statement of intent and good will, more than a fleshed out agreement.</p>
<p>A couple of simple questions, because we’re going to run out of time.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does this strategic partnership mean for the two countries, and what tangible benefits can be expected from it?</li>
<li>Why was defense left out? Seems like an important component of any strategic partnership.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="new-mpg-poll">New MPG Poll</h2>
<h3 id="methodology">Methodology</h3>
<p>Մեթոդաբանություն</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-1.webp" alt="Methodology"  title="Methodology" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="foreign-policy-vector--military-supplies">Foreign Policy Vector &amp; Military Supplies</h3>
<p>The next two questions we want to focus on are related to the respondent’s perception about Armenia’s foreign policy “integration” vector as well as military partnership. Both questions show a dramatic drop in Russia’s standing.</p>
<h4 id="in-your-opinion-to-which-country-or-countries-should-armenias-integration-vector-be-directed">In your opinion, to which country or countries should Armenia&rsquo;s integration vector be directed?</h4>
<p>Ձեր կարծիքով ո՞ր երկիր, կամ երկրներ պետք է ուղղվի Հայաստանի ինտեգրման վեկտորը</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-3.webp" alt="Integration Vector"  title="Integration Vector" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Responses to this question indicate that Russia, traditionally Armenia’s primary geopolitical partner is listed as #3. The #1 response, 48% of respondents was that Armenia should have equal relations between centers of influence. This is a stark difference from January 2023, when 29% of the people felt this way.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Thoughts about this question?</li>
<li>In one way this sounds nice, sort of like the “complementary” foreign policy under Vartan Oskanian. However, can a small, severely weakened Armenia even afford to think about this?
<ul>
<li>NOTE: Frankly, for instance, Armen Grigoryan (national security council director) is talking about Armenia formally having “neutrality”.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="from-which-countries-can-military-and-political-aid-be-obtained-several-answers">From which countries can military and political aid be obtained? (several answers)</h4>
<p>Ո՞ր երկրներից կարելի է ռազմաքաղաքական օգնություն ստանալ մեր երկրի համար (Մի քանի պատասխան)</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-4.webp" alt="Military Aid"  title="Military Aid" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>In this category, Iran is #4 and Russia is #3 (after France, India, and USA). This is again a marked difference from January 2023 (a year ago), when Russia was #3 and Iran was #1.</p>
<p>Question:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you explain this shift in sentiment?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyans-rating-and-sentiment-about-political-parties">Pashinyan’s Rating and Sentiment About Political Parties</h3>
<p>Key takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s rating has dropped even lower, 29.0% compared to 33.6%.</li>
<li>Growing number of people (50.1%) want early parliamentary elections.</li>
<li>Civil contract support would be 16.1%.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="how-much-do-you-trust-ra-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan">How much do you trust RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan?</h4>
<p>Որքանո՞վ եք վստահում ՀՀ վարչապետ Նիկոլ Փաշինյանին</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-7.webp" alt="Trust in Pashinyan"  title="Trust in Pashinyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="according-to-you-in-order-to-solve-the-internal-political-situation-is-it-necessary-to-hold-extraordinary-parliamentary-elections-in-ra">According to you, in order to solve the internal political situation, is it necessary to hold extraordinary parliamentary elections in RA?</h4>
<p>Ըստ Ձեզ ներքաղաքական իրավիճակի լուծման համար արդյո՞ք ՀՀ-ում անհրաժեշտ են իրականացնել արտահերթ խորհրդարանական ընտրություններ</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-9.webp" alt="Necessity for Elections"  title="Necessity for Elections" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="if-there-are-parliamentary-elections-next-sunday-which-party-or-alliance-will-you-vote-for">If there are Parliamentary elections next Sunday, which party or alliance will you vote for?</h4>
<p>Եթե առաջիկա կիրակի օրը լինեն Խորհրդարանական ընտրությունների, ո՞ր կուսակցության կամ դաշինքի օգտին կքվեարկեք</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/309/yeritsuk-MPG-Gallup-Int-10.webp" alt="Supported Party"  title="Supported Party" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-panelists">Thoughts from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> Hypocrisy of EU slamming and congratulating election of a dictator - Aliyev</li>
<li><strong>Hrant:</strong> Armenia’s constitution can not be changed with a push from Azerbaijan</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP308]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/308-david-darchiashvili-georgia-armenia-strategic-partnership-regional-relations-and-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14463769-david-darchiashvili-georgia-in-political-and-geopolitical-context-ep-308-feb-8-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>308</itunes:episode><itunes:title>David Darchiashvili - Georgia's Search for a Modern National Identity | Strategic Partnership with Armenia | Ep 308, Feb. 8, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 02/08/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Georgia’s search for a modern national identity
* Politics in Context
* EU accession process and outlook
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
Episode 308 | Recorded: February 7, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Georgia’s search for a modern national identity
* Politics in Context
* EU accession process and outlook
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
Episode 308 | Recorded: February 7, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. David Darchiashvili](/guest/ddarchiashvili)
#### Topics:
* Georgia’s search for a modern national identity
* Politics in Context
* EU accession process and outlook
* Armenia-Georgia Strategic Partnership
Episode 308 | Recorded: February 7, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Darchiashvili, as this is your first time on our show, please tell us a little bit about yourself, your interests and your endeavors!</p>
<h2 id="georgian-politics">Georgian Politics</h2>
<p>Over the past two decades, Georgia has weathered storms of political upheaval, economic instability, and even outright conflict. The scars of the 2008 Russo-Georgian War still linger, serving as a stark reminder of the tumultuous times the nation has endured. In the aftermath of the Rose Revolution in 2003, hopes were high for democratic consolidation and economic prosperity. However, the road to progress was marred by internal divisions, external pressures, and regressions in reforms.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>In hindsight, what would you identify as the key factors that contributed to Georgia&rsquo;s struggles during this period?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="domestic-political-context">Domestic Political Context</h3>
<p>There’s a running joke in Armenia that wherever Pashinyan visits, the government resigns. He visited Georgia on January 26 and the following day, Georgia’s prime minister <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-pm-garibashvili-resigns-elections/32796574.html">Gharibashvili resigned</a>. On February 2 Pashinyan visited Kazakhstan and <a href="https://tass.com/world/1741869">on February 5</a> the government of Kazakhstan resigned. Pashinyan&rsquo;s travel itinerary should come with a disclaimer: &lsquo;Warning: may cause sudden vacancies in government positions&hellip; except in Armenia, where apparently such luck takes a vacation!&rsquo;</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who are the major political forces in Georgia and what makes them tick?</li>
<li>What is the political context for Gharibashvili’s resignation?</li>
<li>How are domestic politics evolving in Georgia?</li>
<li>What does <a href="https://www.radiotavisupleba.ge/a/32801015.html">Kobakhidze’s appointment</a> as acting PM mean?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-accession">EU Accession</h3>
<p>On 14 December 2023, the EU accepted Georgia’s application for candidate status. Yet, one can imagine that Georgia’s EU ascension journey is just beginning.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How complex is the process? What are the major requirements set by the EU? And how long will it take?</li>
<li>Georgia was granted candidate status, while starting negotiations with Ukraine &amp; Moldova. Why this differentiation from the EU?</li>
<li>If Georgia becomes a member of the EU, will Armenians require a Schengen visa to enter Georgia, or visit Tbilisi? Do you think the EU has plans for some special arrangements for Armenia to take into account issues like this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia’s (and Ukraine’s) membership candidacy comes in the midst of a brutal war that is now almost 2 years old with no end in sight. In this context, there is immense pressure from major warring sides to pull countries in their direction. So far, Georgia has managed to successfully navigate these turbulent diplomatic waters.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Unlike Armenia, Georgia’s government has managed to walk the fine line between the warring sides. What do you think has contributed to this diplomatic success?</li>
<li>What is Russia’s response and policy towards Georgia’s EU membership?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia’s military is already very much integrated with NATO. And I’m sure many Georgian political forces would support deepening that by official membership. We know that Russia gets extremely irritated when a NATO official praises Armenia for some policy or another. We also know Russia’s insistence on having a neutral Ukraine on its borders and this issue could be cited as one of the main reasons for the war in Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the Russian red lines in terms of Georgia’s potential for joining NATO?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---georgia-strategic-partnership">Armenia - Georgia Strategic Partnership</h2>
<p>On January 26, Pashinyan <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/579098#:~:text=The%20Armenian%20delegation%20headed%20by,his%20Georgian%20counterpart%20Irakli%20Garibashvili.">was in Tbilisi</a>, meeting with Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Gharibashvili. A strategic partnership agreement was <a href="https://jam-news.net/armenia-georgia-strategic-partnership-step-forward-or-formality/">signed</a> between the two countries that encompass nearly a dozen spheres, excluding defense, but not a lot is known about the content of the agreement yet.</p>
<p>Regardless of their political leanings, all Armenians place a high value in the improvement of relations with Georgia but many of us want to know what real benefits this deal will provide. Additionally, different analysts have differing interpretations of this development: some claim that this is a step in the direction of pulling Armenia more towards the west; while others say that this move will benefit the Iran-Armenia-Georgia geopolitical axis and economic North-South corridor, strengthening relations with Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why isn’t the deal publicized?</li>
<li>How should we view this development between Armenia and Georgia, especially as Georgia is making moves towards joining the EU? What specific material benefits can we expect?</li>
<li>How is this partnership seen by Russia and Iran? Especially since Iran is highly interested in the INSTC North-South economic corridor through Armenia and Georgia to the Black Sea.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="military-cooperation">Military Cooperation</h3>
<p>During the 44 day war, we saw that Georgia actually blocked military supplies from Russia to Armenia. Even during the latest shipment of French “Bastion” armored personnel carriers, there was news that the shipment was held up in Georgia until Paris twisted Tbilisi’s arms. Meanwhile on a weekly basis we see military supplies from countries like Israel and Turkey pass unfettered through Georgian airspace and territory.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was defense cooperation left out of the signed strategic partnership?</li>
<li>Georgia has defense cooperation agreements with Azerbaijan. Will those agreements continue to trump Armenian-Georgian cooperation?</li>
<li>Can this upgrade in relations help Armenia achieve a more balanced stance by Georgia as a military and non-military corridor for itself and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>Georgia is concerned about Russian influence and encroachments from the north. Armenia is concerned about Turkish influence on Georgia from the south. Turkey, of course, is the hand of NATO in the South Caucasus.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does Georgia view Turkish influence on Georgia and the South Caucasus in general?</li>
<li>What is Georgia’s strategy towards Turkey? How does it plan to maintain long term peaceful relations with it?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/308/thumbnail-308.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/308/thumbnail-308.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14463769-david-darchiashvili-georgia-in-political-and-geopolitical-context-ep-308-feb-8-2024.mp3" length="3031" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36415633</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Michael Goorjian - Amerikatsi: Michael A. Goorjian's Odyssey | Ep 307, Feb. 6, 2024
[EP307]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/307-michael-goorjian-amerikatsi-armenian-cinema-oscars-shortlist-2024-film-arts/</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14453728-amerikatsi-michael-goorjian-s-odyssey-ep-307-feb-6-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Bedros Afeyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>307</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Michael Goorjian - Amerikatsi: Michael A. Goorjian's Odyssey | Ep 307, Feb. 6, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 02/06/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Michael Goorjian](/guest/mgoorjian)
#### Topics:
* Amerikatsi: Motifs, Aspects and Character of the Film
* Goorjian’s Style, Influences, and Interests
* The Oscar Shortlisting journey
* Bedros & Asbed Afterthoughts on the Conversation
Episode 307 | Recorded: February 5, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Michael Goorjian](/guest/mgoorjian)
#### Topics:
* Amerikatsi: Motifs, Aspects and Character of the Film
* Goorjian’s Style, Influences, and Interests
* The Oscar Shortlisting journey
* Bedros & Asbed Afterthoughts on the Conversation
Episode 307 | Recorded: February 5, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Michael Goorjian](/guest/mgoorjian)
#### Topics:
* Amerikatsi: Motifs, Aspects and Character of the Film
* Goorjian’s Style, Influences, and Interests
* The Oscar Shortlisting journey
* Bedros & Asbed Afterthoughts on the Conversation
Episode 307 | Recorded: February 5, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="topics-of-conversation">Topics of Conversation</h2>
<h4 id="intro-to-show-with-michael-goorjian">Intro to show with Michael Goorjian</h4>
<h4 id="artistic-influences">Artistic influences</h4>
<h4 id="about-the-voyeur-motif">About the voyeur motif</h4>
<h4 id="the-less-armenian-and-more-human-and-universal-aspect">The less Armenian and more human and universal aspect</h4>
<h4 id="russia">Russia</h4>
<h4 id="the-humor-in-the-film">The humor in the film</h4>
<h4 id="the-colors-of-this-film">The colors of this film</h4>
<h4 id="the-music-and-sounds-in-the-film">The music and sounds in the film</h4>
<h4 id="about-hoviks-hat">About Hovik’s hat…</h4>
<h4 id="casting-acting-editing">Casting, acting, editing</h4>
<h4 id="directing-style">Directing style</h4>
<h4 id="which-directors-have-influenced-goorjian">Which directors have influenced Goorjian?</h4>
<h4 id="the-parallels-between-michaels-charlie-and-chaplin">The parallels between Michael’s Charlie and Chaplin</h4>
<h4 id="the-silent-aspect-of-communication">The “silent” aspect of communication</h4>
<h4 id="filming-through-the-prison-window">Filming through the prison window</h4>
<h4 id="the-choice-of-charlies-actively-learning-and-immersing">The Choice of Charlie’s actively learning and immersing</h4>
<h4 id="see-this-movie">See this movie!</h4>
<h4 id="whats-next">What’s next?</h4>
<h4 id="what-do-you-need-to-continue-to-make-films">What do you need to continue to make films?</h4>
<h4 id="what-was-the-oscar-shortlisting-journey-like">What was the Oscar Shortlisting journey like?</h4>
<h4 id="why-the-nomination-will-help-film-making-in-armenia">Why the nomination will help film making in Armenia</h4>
<h4 id="what-do-you-think-of-parajanov">What do you think of Parajanov?</h4>
<h4 id="what-about-atom-egoyan">What about Atom Egoyan?</h4>
<h4 id="how-would-we-come-up-with-an-armenian-superhero---khorovadz-man">How would we come up with an Armenian Superhero - Khorovadz man?</h4>
<h4 id="about-michael-goorjian">About Michael Goorjian</h4>
<h4 id="bedros--asbed-shoot-the-breeze-about-the-conversation">Bedros &amp; Asbed shoot the breeze about the Conversation</h4>
<h4 id="wrap-up-and-about-dr-bedros-afeyan">Wrap up and about Dr. Bedros Afeyan</h4>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/307/thumbnail-307.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/307/thumbnail-307.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14453728-amerikatsi-michael-goorjian-s-odyssey-ep-307-feb-6-2024.mp3" length="4559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54747937</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Varuzhan Geghamyan - Armenian Azerbaijani Talks | Raisi Erdogan meet in Ankara | Politics | Ep 306 - Feb 4, 2024
[EP306]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/306-varuzhan-geghamyan-armenian-azerbaijani-talks-ebrahim-raisi-recep-erdogan-ankara-domestic-politics/</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2024 01:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14447332-varuzhan-geghamyan-diplomatic-flurry-aliyev-constitution-for-armenia-opposition-ep-306-feb-4-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>306</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Varuzhan Geghamyan - Armenian Azerbaijani Talks | Raisi Erdogan meet in Ankara | Politics | Ep 306 - Feb 4, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 02/04/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - Feb 4, 2024
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Diplomatic Flurry
* Raisi in Ankara
* Raisi in Moscow
* Putin in Ankara
* Aliyev’s Constitution for Armenia
* How can the Opposition become a consequential force?
Episode 306 | Recorded: February 3, 2024</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - Feb 4, 2024
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Diplomatic Flurry
* Raisi in Ankara
* Raisi in Moscow
* Putin in Ankara
* Aliyev’s Constitution for Armenia
* How can the Opposition become a consequential force?
Episode 306 | Recorded: February 3, 2024</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - Feb 4, 2024
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
#### Topics:
* Diplomatic Flurry
* Raisi in Ankara
* Raisi in Moscow
* Putin in Ankara
* Aliyev’s Constitution for Armenia
* How can the Opposition become a consequential force?
Episode 306 | Recorded: February 3, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="diplomatic-flurry">Diplomatic Flurry</h2>
<p>Since the 44-Day war, Iran has woken up to the new geopolitical realities, understanding that it can no longer leave the northern vector to a silent alliance with Russia. Iran has increased its diplomatic activity and military readiness, and on the economic front, as of January 1, Iran is a member of BRICS and has a sweeping free trade agreement with the EAEU. And its one border with the EAEU is with Armenia.</p>
<h3 id="raisi-in-ankara">Raisi in Ankara</h3>
<p>On January 24 Iranian president Ebrahim Raisi visited Ankara and held direct talks with Turkish president Erdogan. Press releases of <a href="https://en.irna.ir/news/85365486/Iran-Turkiye-vow-to-boost-mutual-ties-Raisi">Iran</a> and Turkey emphasized that there were10 agreements which the two signed, primarily in the <a href="https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/494133/Iran-Turkey-conclude-10-co-op-documents-during-President-Raisi-s">areas</a> of railways, energy exchange, and establishment of joint commercial and communication zones. A key interest for the two countries is to <a href="https://en.irna.ir/news/85365117/Iran-s-president-returns-after-day-long-official-visit-to-Turkiye">increase bilateral trade</a> to $30 billion, a 500% increase.</p>
<p>In addition to condemning Israeli violence in Gaza and making statements supporting the Palestinian cause, the sides <a href="https://www.arabnews.com/node/2448766">discussed</a> regional security including Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the South Caucasus.</p>
<p>Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amir <a href="https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/480970/Iran-FM-visits-Turkey-for-regional-talks">Abdollahian was in Ankara</a> a week before Raisi, and met with both Turkish FM Mevlut Çavušoglu, as well as Erdogan. Abdollahian referred to the discussions about the South Caucasus as “important regional issues that ultimately correlate with the security of the region” and said “more movements in this area are an important necessity today.”</p>
<p>When Raisi returned home, we again heard strong statements that Iran will not accept any change to International borders, alluding to the so-called Zangezur corridor through Armenia that Turkey and Azerbaijan have their eyes on.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe the geopolitical dance between these two regional powers, Turkey and Iran, regarding both the Middle East, and the South Caucasus? What are their main areas of interest, what are their areas of cooperation, and areas of either disagreement or competition?</li>
<li>How do the negotiations over their relationship about Gaza affect their relationship towards Armenia and the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Raisi has <a href="https://www.times-georgian.com/news/national/irans-raisi-erdogan-pledge-to-contain-gaza-violence/article_9c82ca66-7323-5011-86a8-80c5824893d8.html">said</a> that Iran believes that all states should limit or stop their activities or relations with Israel, to discourage the atrocities in Gaza. Iran says Turkey should do more in this area. Given that Azerbaijan is one of Israel’s key sources of revenue and Turkey is a conduit for Azerbaijani oil &amp; gas to Israel, how does this affect Iran’s relationship with Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="raisi-in-moscow">Raisi in Moscow</h3>
<p>In December 2023, a month before his visit to Ankara, Raisi was <a href="https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/492271/Raisi-arrives-in-Moscow-for-talks-with-Putin">in Moscow</a> for extensive discussions with Putin, who had just returned from a visit to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Most of the publicized topics were around Gaza, Ukraine, and the increasing economic and defense ties which are building up towards a strategic partnership between the two countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is binding Iran and Russia so tightly, since the war in Ukraine exploded?</li>
<li>Are there areas of friction between the two countries at present?</li>
<li>How are Iran and Russia aligned in the South Caucasus?
<ul>
<li>For instance, is Iran ok with Russia’s proposal to control security on the so-called “Zangezur corridor”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="putin-in-ankara">Putin in Ankara</h3>
<p>Russian president <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-putin-visit-nato-member-turkey-feb-12-turkish-official-2024-01-31/">Putin will visit Erdogan</a> in Ankara On February 12. So we can see that the major powers surrounding the South Caucasus are very active diplomatically. Turkey, Iran and Russia are the 3 majors in the so-called 3+3 platform, where the 3 minors are Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia.</p>
<p>It seems like the 3 majors are very interested in the 3+3, while the 3 minors are at best lukewarm towards it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does the 3+3 platform have a future, or is it a dead thing? And what is its goal?</li>
<li>Why are the majors interested in it, and why are the minors rather disinterested?</li>
</ul>
<p>Some of the <a href="https://www.eurasiareview.com/15012024-plenty-on-the-agenda-should-putin-and-erdogan-meet-oped/">agenda</a> topics between Putin and Erdogan are:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Ukraine grain deal, which reportedly tops the agenda.</li>
<li>Russia building nuclear power plants in Turkey.</li>
<li>NATO and Ukraine Navy access to the Black Sea.</li>
<li>Turkey as an energy and airspace communication link for Russia.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the main areas of cooperation and also competition between Turkey and Russia at present? What does Putin hope to achieve in Ankara?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="aliyevs-constitution-for-armenia">Aliyev’s Constitution For Armenia</h2>
<p>2024 is only a month old and it feels like a year in Armenia given the amount of geopolitical intrigue and continued confirmations that Armenia appears to be controlled remotely from Baku.</p>
<p>The year began with Pashinyan getting a makeover in his looks, wearing a silly Lenin cap and going around the country checking the quality of bathrooms in public schools and dismissing governors he found responsible for shortcomings. To many analysts this looked a lot like electioneering, but Pashinyan laughed that off.</p>
<p>Then the clowning around in school bathrooms stopped and was dominated by news from Azerbaijan where at the highest levels, Aliyev rejected one myth after another that Pashinyan has been selling to the Armenian public.</p>
<p>So far, Aliyev has:</p>
<ul>
<li>Rejected mediation by the West in the “peace treaty” negotiations</li>
<li>Rejected Pashinyan’s pleas to recognize Armenia’s territorial integrity with 29,800 sq km of area</li>
<li>Rejected the idea that there should be a security guarantor to a future so-called “peace treaty”</li>
<li>Demanded to receive guarantees that Armenia could never pose a military threat to Azerbaijan in the future</li>
<li>Demanded 8 “villages” that he claims belong to Azerbaijan</li>
<li>Continued demands about the “Z corridor”</li>
<li>Promoted talk about return of Azerbaijanis to “Western Azerbaijan”, which is what he calls Armenia</li>
<li>And most recently, yesterday, he said that Armenia must change its constitution as a condition for peace</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan has stacked the constitutional court in his favor starting in early 2020, and since the 44-Day war, there have been constant rumors that Azerbaijan &amp; Turkey are pressuring Pashinyan to remove references to the Genocide, Western Armenia and Artsakh from the Armenian constitution and Declaration of Independence. Those who publicly talked about this were called conspiracy theorists until this month when <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32801656.html">Pashinyan</a> and many of his mouthpieces came clean about their plans to scrap the current constitution, and write an entirely new one. <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32801517.html">Because Aliyev said so</a>.</p>
<p>Yesterday, in an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nBMg4hOkWQ">interview</a> to Armenian Public Radio, Pashinyan said that there will never be peace if Armenia’s policy is based on the declaration of independence.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Pashinyan’s goal with the Armenian constitution and the recent apparent electioneering? Do you think he’ll aim for a constitutional referendum and maybe even elections at the same time?</li>
<li>Pashinyan destroyed the third republic, so he’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129388.html">talking about creating a fourth republic</a>. Is this the right thing to do, and is he the right person for it?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the same interview, Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129391.html">referred</a> to Armenia’s security architecture and that Armenian needs a new national security strategy and relations with Russia in the sphere of security. Specifically he <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1129395.html">said</a>:</p>
<pre><code>&quot;Previously, 95%-97% of our defense sector relations were with Russia, now it cannot be so ... Now we have to understand what kind of relations we have, for example, with India in this concept.”
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe Pashinyan’s reasoning has any objective basis? Do you believe that the argument that some make, that Russia is busy with a war in Ukraine who has the support of the entire NATO, and therefore legitimately its hands are tied, can be a legitimate justification for Russia’s lack of military support for Armenia, even in terms of arms shipments? Do you believe that is a fair assessment or what we should bet on? And does this mean that Armenia must replace Russia as its primary partner or work to repair the relationship that existed before?</li>
</ul>
<p>We know that the opposition has decried all of these ongoing developments vehemently. But the reality is that there has been no substantive echo from Armenian society in the republic. There is a huge disconnect between the republic and the diaspora, caused by this leadership.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does the opposition become a meaningful, consequential force in Armenia under current circumstances?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-panelists">Thoughts from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Varuzhan:</strong> Not sure that 2024 will not witness more attacks on Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/306/thumbnail-306.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/306/thumbnail-306.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14447332-varuzhan-geghamyan-diplomatic-flurry-aliyev-constitution-for-armenia-opposition-ep-306-feb-4-2024.mp3" length="35175799" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2927</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Anna Karapetyan - Armenian Azerbaijani Talks | Is Armenia Rearming? | Pashinyan and the Constitution | Ep 305 - Jan 28, 2024
[EP305]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/305-anna-karapetyan-armenian-azerbaijani-talks-is-armenia-rearming-pashinyan-constitution/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14404682-anna-karapetyan-is-armenia-finally-rearming-armenia-georgia-strategic-partnership-armenian-azerbaijani-talks-pashinyan-and-the-constitution-ep-305-jan-28-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>305</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Karapetyan - Armenian Azerbaijani Talks | Is Armenia Rearming? | Pashinyan and the Constitution | Ep 305 - Jan 28, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 28, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Is Armenia Rearming itself?
* Pashinyan and the Constitution
Episode 305 | Recorded: January 29, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Is Armenia Rearming itself?
* Pashinyan and the Constitution
Episode 305 | Recorded: January 29, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Is Armenia Rearming itself?
* Pashinyan and the Constitution
Episode 305 | Recorded: January 29, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 28 is Armenian Army day and this year Armenia celebrated the 32nd anniversary of the formation of the Armenian Armed Forces. Despite all of the challenges and setbacks, Armenia’s Army remains the guarantor of Armenia’s statehood and the hope for Armenia’s recovery.</p>
<p>At Groong, we congratulate and say “thank you” to all those who’ve taken part in service for their country and we remember all those who gave their everything for their country.</p>
<h2 id="is-armenia-finally-rearming">Is Armenia Finally Rearming?</h2>
<p>Over the past five years, after multiple disastrous wars, the Armenian army has dropped in rating based on both empirical results as well as by military capacity ranking by organizations like <a href="https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php">Global Firepower</a>. Having sustained heavy losses in the wars, experts and Armenian government officials have underscored the need for Armenia to rapidly replenish its arms and military capabilities, a process that has not gone smoothly so far.</p>
<p>Over the past few months we’ve heard various news of arms procurements by Armenia. France is sending dozens of APC’s, short range air defense systems, and radar systems. India is selling Armenia something on the order of half a billion dollars worth of air defense systems in the last 18 months; Armenia is also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1125259.html">discussing relations</a> with NATO, and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1128656.html">adopting</a> NATO standards for some aspects of its army; and most recently, the long-running feud with Russia about $400 million in arms is now supposedly “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32786908.html">mostly settled</a>” as some arms are finally being delivered.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s all the noise and hoopla around weapons procurements?</li>
<li>Is Armenia really arming itself, or is this all continuous PR by the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<p>So much noise about defense procurements, which by the way the government has just classified as <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1128835.html">state secrets</a>, makes us wonder about what really we should be <em>hearing</em>. Some analysts point out that the French procurements are not highly relevant to Armenia’s needs; that the Indian procurements are not battle tested; and that the Russian procurements have been sitting in warehouses in Russia for 3-5 years due to contractual and political <a href="https://168.am/2024/01/22/1986470.html">mishandlings and incompetence</a> on the part of the Armenian government, although we’re hearing that deliveries have restarted.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Pashinyan suddenly interested in keeping procurements a secret? And more importantly: why now?</li>
</ul>
<p>Military strategists often cite that morale is equally if not more important than armaments or even the size of the opponent’s army.</p>
<p>Some quotes…</p>
<ul>
<li>Dwight D. Eisenhower: &ldquo;Morale is the greatest single factor in successful wars.&rdquo;</li>
<li>Napoleon Bonaparte: &ldquo;The morale is to the physical as three is to one”</li>
<li>Carl von Clausewitz:&ldquo;Courage, above all things, is the first quality of a warrior.&rdquo;</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Pashinyan: “maybe our biggest mistake was in trusting the army”</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is being done by Armenian leadership to improve the morale in the army? Isn’t this as important as acquiring new weapons?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---georgia-strategic-partnership">Armenia - Georgia Strategic Partnership</h2>
<p>This week, Pashinyan <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/579098#:~:text=The%20Armenian%20delegation%20headed%20by,his%20Georgian%20counterpart%20Irakli%20Garibashvili.">was in Tbilisi</a>, meeting with Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Gharibashvili. A strategic partnership agreement was signed between the two countries that encompass nearly a dozen spheres, excluding defense.</p>
<p>Regardless of their political leanings, all Armenians place a high value in the improvement of relations with Georgia but many of us want to know what real benefits this deal will provide. Additionally, different analysts have differing interpretations of this development: some claim that this is a step in the direction of pulling Armenia more towards the west; while others underscore that this move will benefit the Iran-Armenia-Georgia geopolitical axis and economic North-South corridor, strengthening relations with Iran.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How should we view this development between Armenia and Georgia, especially as Georgia is making moves towards joining the EU? What specific material benefits can we expect?</li>
<li>How is this deal seen from the North (Russia)? Maybe Iran also?</li>
</ul>
<p>During the 44 day war, we saw that Georgia actually blocked military supplies from Russia to Armenia. Even during the latest shipment of French “Bastion” armored personnel carriers, there was news that the shipment was held up in Georgia until Paris twisted Tbilisi’s arms. Meanwhile on a weekly basis we see military supplies from countries like Israel and Turkey pass unfettered through Georgian airspace and territory.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Georgia has defense cooperation agreements with Azerbaijan. Will those agreements continue to trump Armenian-Georgian cooperation?</li>
<li>Can this upgrade in relations help Armenia achieve a more balanced use of Georgia as an arms corridor for itself and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="state-of-the-negotiations">State of the negotiations</h3>
<p>The status of the so-called “peace negotiations” between Armenia and Azerbaijan seem to have stalled, and according to Pashinyan, Mirzoyan, etc. the talks have in fact taken <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32788766.html">steps back</a>, as Aliyev, Hajiyev, Bayramov and others have made statements that negate what was said in the talks.</p>
<p>Azerbaijan has played everyone, leveraging Armenia&rsquo;s flirting with the west, to extract what it can from all players. And now, it is forcing Armenia to negotiate bilaterally, which many analysts see as the worst possible option for Armenia.</p>
<p>This past week, after Azerbaijan’s <a href="https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/karabakh-minefield-maps-provided-by-yerevan-inaccurate-baku/news">sudden accusations</a> that Armenian minefield maps aren’t accurate, Armenian officials said they’re working on new <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1128882.html">maps</a> in order to hand them to Azerbaijan; this sort of came out of the blue just in the past week, despite previous statements that Armenia had passed along all minefield maps.</p>
<p>Additionally, Pashinyan said that he’s willing to give Aliyev even more guarantees that Armenia will not be a security threat to Azerbaijan in the future. And as we’ll discuss a little bit later, Pashinyan’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32790031.html">initiative</a> for a new Armenian constitution serves to fulfill  demands from Aliyev; Mirzoyan pretty much came out and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32791763.html">said that</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Anna, how do you assess the current state of the negotiations? Is there a real regression in the situation, or do you think that what we’re hearing from Baku is post-war macho campaign rhetoric for domestic consumption, or were Armenian assurances about “peace” unrealistic in the first place?</li>
<li>Pashinyan says that he wants guarantees from Azerbaijan that there will not be any territorial demands from Armenia, and in exchange he’s willing to give similar guarantees. What guarantees is he talking about?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="mediator-melée">Mediator Melée</h3>
<p>The Russians and the West are essentially locked out of mediation. They’ve all made pretty angry and anxious statements.</p>
<p>The Russians continue to invite Armenia and Azerbaijan to sign a treaty in Moscow, but it is evident that they mostly care about Point 9 of the Nov. 2020 statement, regardless of the failure of points 1 through 8. They want to control Aliyev’s so-called “Zangezur corridor”, even while they say it was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1128350.html">never discussed</a> in the trilateral statement.</p>
<p>Meanwhile in the past few days the PACE has frozen Azerbaijan’s participation for a year, and various EU and NATO officials have been making frequent statements supporting Armenia’s territorial integrity; the right of return for Artsakh Armenians; and Armenian cultural preservation in Artsakh. The Greek president and others are also pushing forward Pashinyan’s “crossroads of peace” repackaging of Aliyev’s “Zangezur corridor.”</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>This is all great, but are all these grand European statements of any real value? Everyone we’ve talked to says that the west has no way of physically assuring the security of Armenia, and the Europeans themselves have said so in stereo. So what’s the value of all of their political support, while 1- they continue doing business with our enemy, and 2- they couldn’t come to our aid if they wanted to? Even the deputy editor of Le Figaro in his recent <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8bIk9f-1Qw">interview</a> gave a frank assessment of this conundrum. How could Armenia rely or gamble its security on their words?</li>
</ul>
<p>Regardless of all the reasons in the world, such as Ukraine, or Prague, or whatever, and Pashinyan can point to the Russians and the Russians can point to Pashinyan, but the bottom line for us is that Artsakh was ethnically cleansed, and this was a crime against humanity.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can we say that Russia also failed us?</li>
<li>Can the relationship be repaired?</li>
<li>Both the EU and the Russians have focused on point 9 of the Nov 2020 statement. Can you summarize how their own interests are dictating their involvement in the Armenian Azerbaijani conflict?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-and-the-constitution">Pashinyan and the Constitution</h2>
<p>One of the major topics over the past two weeks has been Pashinyan’s latest initiative to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32783617.html">scrap</a> the existing Armenian constitution and write a new one. In the past week Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32791763.html">essentially admitted</a> that Azerbaijan is behind Pashinyan’s effort to change the Armenian constitution, just as the opposition had <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32790031.html">accused</a> it of being.</p>
<p>One of the stupidest things that Pashinyan says to justify his demand to change the constitution is that he wants the Armenian constitution to conform to the “new geopolitical realities”. I hope everyone understands that by “new geopolitical realities” Pashinyan means “my horrible defeat in the 44-day war and ethnic cleansing of Artsakh”. So I just want to point out that by rewriting the constitution, Pashinyan is trying to codify and impose his defeatist mentality on all of the Armenian republic.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key points that Aliyev and perhaps Erdogan have told Pashinyan that he needs to change?</li>
<li>Is this a newly surfaced demand or is Pashinyan spoon-feeding Armenians Aliyev’s demands little by little?</li>
<li>What is the current outlook for a referendum outcome on a Pashinyan constitution, if it were to be held today?</li>
</ul>
<p>BACKGROUND NOTES:</p>
<ul>
<li>We know from the 90s that Turkey has demanded changes in Armenia’s constitution as a precondition for establishment of diplomatic relations.</li>
<li>In January 2021, then president Armen Sarkissian <a href="https://www.president.am/en/press-release/item/2021/01/11/President-Armen-Sarkissians-article/">said</a> Armenia must move towards the “Fourth Republic”.</li>
<li>In March 2021, Pashinyan <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/pashinyan_armenia_may_switch_back_to_semi_presidential_form_of_governance/">said</a> Armenia may move to presidential republic (critics claim this was a pretense for changing the constitution)</li>
<li>In April 2021, Aliyev first mentioned that Armenia must change its constitution since it contains territorial claims against Turkey.</li>
<li>In December 2021, Pashinyan held a closed door meeting with the members of the Constitutional court (sans Hrair Tovmasyan and Arevik Petrosyan, who objected to the legality). Weeks later, he created a commission on changing the constitution. A</li>
<li>Mid-year 2022, the commission’s mandate expired. Pashinyan didn’t accept their recommendations. He formed a new commission. Important to note that in all public statements, there was only talk about amending the constitution not forming a new one.</li>
<li>January 2024, Pashinyan says we need a completely new constitution and not amendments.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Fear of war with a loser like Pashinyan at the helm of the country</li>
<li><strong>Anna</strong>: Inspiring kids with Army Day to grow up with a winner’s mentality</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>304</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian - World in Conflict | Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations | 2024 Outlook | Ep. 304 - Jan 21, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 21, 2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* World in Conflict
* Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, Middle East
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Prognosis for 2024
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 304 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* World in Conflict
* Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, Middle East
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Prognosis for 2024
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 304 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* World in Conflict
* Ukraine, Israel-Gaza, Middle East
* Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations
* Prognosis for 2024
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 304 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="world-in-conflict">World in Conflict</h2>
<p>Israel’s war on Palestine in Gaza is raging. We’ve gone over 25,000 dead and over 60,000 injured, which is a human tragedy by any standard of measurement.</p>
<p>All indications are that Israel is preparing to take the war north to Lebanon and involve Iranian-allied Hezbollah forces. Yemen has managed to severely disrupt shipping lanes in the Red sea. Iran struck targets in Iraq, Syria and even bombed alleged terrorist camps in Pakistan. The following day, Pakistan retaliated using the same allegations.</p>
<p>So the prospects for peace look dim.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the risk high that the Israeli war in Gaza will expand into a larger, regional conflagration?</li>
<li>What were the reasons for Iran’s strikes on Iraq, Syria and Pakistan, and what’s the significance of their timing?</li>
<li>Are these strikes strategic in nature, or geopolitical? What message is Iran sending, and to whom?</li>
<li>For a military action from a nation like Iran, the media reverberations in the US were trivial. There was hardly any echo in the mainstream media here, instead of the expected drumbeat of war. Why is that?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past few months western resolve, and funding, for Ukraine has started to weaken. Some attribute this to the year in US elections, the prospects for a new Trump presidency, as well as the Israel-Gaza war which started in October, and has diffused western diplomatic and financial resources away from Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the state of the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>Are there winners and losers in this conflict?</li>
<li>How will Russia emerge from this conflict?</li>
</ul>
<p>Many observers are waiting to see how the war in Ukraine will shake out, because they expect that its outcome will determine the so-called “new world order”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How will this affect its engagement in the South Caucasus, Armenia, and Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="iranian-influence">Iranian Influence</h3>
<p>One of Russia’s main partners in the war in Ukraine has been Iran; it has provided unwavering military and diplomatic support to Russia. Naturally Iran’s raised political and military profile, both in Ukraine and the Middle East, carries over that influence to our region around Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do Iran’s actions in the Middle East affect the Armenian Azerbaijani negotiations?</li>
<li>Do you think that there is a high level of convergence between the national security interests of Armenia and Iran in our region, currently? How can Armenia leverage that synergy to its benefit?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="western-influence">Western Influence</h3>
<p>In the past 10 days we&rsquo;ve had three international diplomats visit Armenia, without visiting Baku. Those individuals were Louis Bono (US co-chair), Toivo Klaar (EU special rep) and Javier Colomina (NATO).</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the reason that these people didn&rsquo;t fly to Baku immediately before or after coming to Armenia, as is customary? And don&rsquo;t tell us it&rsquo;s because of some phony elections in Baku.
<ul>
<li>One option is, “you&rsquo;re not welcome here, there&rsquo;s nothing to discuss”. This matches Aliyev&rsquo;s public rhetoric about Armenia but we don&rsquo;t hear any criticism from these geopolitical centers, instead they keep talking about positive things.</li>
<li>But if Aliyev&rsquo;s behavior is a demarche against these regional powers, then why do they even come to Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is it possible that these diplomats are in Armenia to force Aliyev’s additional conditions against Armenia, and yield even more concessions?</li>
</ul>
<p>In December you wrote an interesting <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2023/12/13/does-the-eu-have-any-strategy-in-the-south-caucasus/">article</a> about whether the EU has a strategy in Armenia.</p>
<p>One of the tenets in the report you quoted struck me as a core bullet point around which a lot of the rest of the report was built. It said: The EU should ensure that “Armenia duly implements the commitments it has undertaken regarding the transport connection from Azerbaijan proper to Nakhichevan.” The report mentions that the EU has an interest in its realization. Another report emphasized that Armenia should not have unrealistic expectations of the EU.</p>
<p>So it sounds like the EU wants something out of Armenia, corridors specifically, and give pretty much nothing material in exchange. Maybe some goodwill political declarations.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What conclusions do you draw from all the foreign policy ruminations in the EU, about Armenia and the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Is there an EU strategy towards Armenia, and if there is one emerging, what would be the fundamental tenets of such a strategy?</li>
<li>Is there any basis for thinking that the November 9 statement, specifically about transport links, is at all valid still, with Artsakh ethnically cleansed, the Lachin corridor erased, Armenian sovereign territories invaded, Armenian POWs still in Baku, etc.?
<ul>
<li>Why would both Russia and the EU be calling for a corridor through Armenia for Turkey and Azerbaijan with no regard to Armenia’s security?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="prognosis-for-2024-and-beyond">Prognosis For 2024 and Beyond</h2>
<h3 id="stratfor-report">Stratfor Report</h3>
<p>There was a Stratfor outlook for developments in the South Caucasus in 2024. Some Armenian media <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/801094.html">summarized</a> it, and here are some key takeaways:</p>
<ul>
<li>Progress in negotiations will continue, but there will be serious risks.</li>
<li>Disagreements on the “corridor” issue will remain.
<ul>
<li>Armenia will use the West’s backing to push back on Azerbaijan</li>
<li>Azerbaijan will continue military buildup on the border and continue with maximalist appetite</li>
<li>Without progress in the first  half of 2024, there will be a serious risk of war in the summer/fall time frame.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armenia’s dependence on Russia will continue.</li>
<li>Russian-Azerbaijani trade will grow.</li>
<li>If there is a war and Azerbaijan forcibly takes Syunik, Turkey and Azerbaijan will threaten to shift foreign policy more towards Russia, China and Iran, in response to western pressure to relinquish that territory.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think of this high-level outlook for 2024?</li>
<li>What are your own expectations in 2024?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-participants">Topics from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Yeghia</strong>: The shame of Pashinyan’s drive to rename “Armenian History” to “History of Armenia”</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Pashinyan changes to Armenia’s constitution fulfilling enemy demands</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/304/thumbnail-304.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/304/thumbnail-304.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14367520-yeghia-tashjian-world-in-conflict-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-2024-outlook-ep-304-jan-21-2024.mp3" length="30640364" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2549</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - An Armenian in St. Petersburg | Russia, Ukraine, Armenia, Artsakh in Geopolitical Context | Ep 303, Jan 22, 2024
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        Conversations on Groong - 01/22/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* An Armenian in St. Petersburg, Russia
* Russian Perceptions and Outlook on the War in Ukraine
* Perceptions of Armenia and Artsakh in Russia
* World Events that might Affect Outcome of the War in Ukraine
* Where do Armenia and Artsakh Figure in a New World Order?
Episode 303 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* An Armenian in St. Petersburg, Russia
* Russian Perceptions and Outlook on the War in Ukraine
* Perceptions of Armenia and Artsakh in Russia
* World Events that might Affect Outcome of the War in Ukraine
* Where do Armenia and Artsakh Figure in a New World Order?
Episode 303 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* An Armenian in St. Petersburg, Russia
* Russian Perceptions and Outlook on the War in Ukraine
* Perceptions of Armenia and Artsakh in Russia
* World Events that might Affect Outcome of the War in Ukraine
* Where do Armenia and Artsakh Figure in a New World Order?
Episode 303 | Recorded: January 22, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="an-armenian-in-st-petersburg">An Armenian in St. Petersburg</h2>
<p>How is life in Saint Petersburg, Russia?</p>
<p>For the past couple of years the mainstream Western press has pushed a narrative that Russia is on the verge of collapse due to the ongoing war in Ukraine. But just in the last 6 months this has started shifting, and there are reports that the US and some EU countries are pushing Ukraine to find a negotiated settlement with Russia.</p>
<p>Since you left Yerevan a year and a half ago, you’ve lived in St. Petersburg.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell our listeners what life is like over there, and if you’ve seen a change since the time since you moved there?</li>
<li>How do you assess the current situation, domestically, in Russia?</li>
<li>Have western sanctions had an impact on life in Russia?</li>
<li>You were there during the “Wagner Opera”. This was the period last summer when Prigozhin’s Wagner Group tried some sort of a putsch against either Putin or the Russian defense ministry. In any case, the Kremlin dealt with it within something like 36 hours. What was that experience like? Was there widespread support for Prigozhin’s “revolt”?</li>
<li>What are the perceptions of Armenia and Artsakh in St. Petersburg?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-developments">Geopolitical Developments</h2>
<h3 id="russia--ukraine">Russia &amp; Ukraine</h3>
<p>This is an event that’s had immense consequences on Armenia’s geopolitical fate; but it’s not just that, this is a worldwide event with global consequences. Most observers are waiting to see how the war in Ukraine will shake out, because they expect that its outcome will determine the so-called “new world order”.</p>
<p>About 6-7 months ago, people like former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson were <a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/">visiting Kiev</a> and making sure that Zelensky would not hold any peace talks aimed at ending or even “freezing” the conflict. Since then, a lot has happened. As we noted earlier, tens of billions of dollars later, western support for the war is on the rocks.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where does the war stand today? Who’s winning, who’s losing, or maybe it’d be more politically correct to ask: are there winners and losers in this war?</li>
<li>What should we keep track of, as this war unfolds? What’s likely to happen next?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="world-currents">World Currents</h3>
<p>In the past year many new world events are developing, some expected and some not. For example, the US elections are upon us, and even though most people would think it’s something for 2024, we’ve been feeling its tremors since the middle of 2023. Meanwhile, the Israel-Gaza war was an unexpected turn of events in October, 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Regarding the US election, first of all how is the election year affecting US support for Ukraine? And perhaps the bigger question is: how will a potential Trump presidency affect this conflict, and more generally maybe all of the world, because it reflects through the prism of a totally different relationship between Russia and the US under Trump.</li>
<li>How is the war in Gaza affecting the war in Ukraine, and perhaps more specifically, western solidarity with Ukraine? It seems to me either the West’s attention, or resources, have been split between these two crises, and now the west doesn’t have the same diplomatic and war bandwidth as before.</li>
</ul>
<p>Just in the past couple of weeks Iran has flexed its muscle and escalated its political profile in the Middle East by striking at the US consulate in Iraq, and Sunni militants in Pakistan. Iran and Russia have grown nearly to the point of strategic partnership since the war in Ukraine, and with Iran entering BRICS as of January 1, its economic integration with the non-western world becomes a prominent plus for it.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of Iran’s emerging influence, both regionally and on the world stage?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="back-to-armenia-and-the-south-caucasus">Back to Armenia and the South Caucasus</h2>
<p>Let’s tie all these things we’ve been talking about back to how they affect Armenia and its outlook. For example, the war in Ukraine; the war in Gaza and its possible expansion to the entire Middle East; the US elections; the various global trade corridors, like the Northern corridor, the Middle corridor, INSTC, the Belt and Road, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where do Armenia and Artsakh factor into all this?
<ul>
<li>Earlier, you were telling us that the recent crises in the region actually revealed that Armenia was much more geopolitically significant than many commentators previously assumed. What do you mean by this?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is Russia’s position towards the region, given all of the developments we’ve been discussing?
<ul>
<li>What is your reading on the situation from St. Petersburg?</li>
<li>What are Russian analysts saying?</li>
<li>How will Russia’s stance evolve, as the war in Ukraine eventually resolves?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s government seems to have put most of its eggs in the West’s basket. Is this a wise move? Is it wise to pick sides at all?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>! We hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP302]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/302-karen-vrtanesyan-illusion-of-normalcypolitical-prisoners-judicial-harassment-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-military-capacity-what-next/</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14314192-karen-vrtanesyan-illusion-of-normalcy-political-prisoners-judicial-harassment-negotiations-military-capacity-what-next-ep-302-january-14-2024.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>302</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Karen Vrtanesyan - Illusion of Normalcy | Political Prisoners &amp; Judicial Harassment | Negotiations | Military Capacity | What Next | Ep 302 - January 14, 2024</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 01/14/2024
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
* “Forced Illusion of Normalcy”
* Political Prisoners and Judicial Harassment
* Negotiations and “Peace Treaty”
* Armenia’s Military Capacity
* What Need to be Done?
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 302 | Recorded: January 14, 2024</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
* “Forced Illusion of Normalcy”
* Political Prisoners and Judicial Harassment
* Negotiations and “Peace Treaty”
* Armenia’s Military Capacity
* What Need to be Done?
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 302 | Recorded: January 14, 2024</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
* “Forced Illusion of Normalcy”
* Political Prisoners and Judicial Harassment
* Negotiations and “Peace Treaty”
* Armenia’s Military Capacity
* What Need to be Done?
* Thoughts from the Participants
Episode 302 | Recorded: January 14, 2024</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="forced-illusion-of-normalcy">“Forced Illusion of Normalcy”</h2>
<p>Traditionally, New Year&rsquo;s Eve is one of the most popular holidays in Armenia (and the former Soviet Union). The vast majority of people ring in the new year at home with family and friends.</p>
<p>This year, on December 31, Hovik and Karen and many others were on the streets of Yerevan, and not on Republic Square with the big Christmas tree and a countdown clock and big crowds.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the purpose of the event and why was it important?</li>
<li>What was the outcome and reaction? How did people come away from it?</li>
<li>What narratives are sponsored and propagated by government-run media?</li>
<li>What do we want people to remain aware of?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-prisoners-and-judicial-harassment">Political Prisoners and Judicial Harassment</h2>
<p>Over the past month, there have been several prominent court cases that Western Ambassadors and analysts have no idea about.</p>
<ul>
<li>Avetik Chalabyan’s <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2023/12/13/opposition-activist-charges/2939270">sentence</a>
<ul>
<li>First time in history (apparently) where individual is being deprived of political activity</li>
<li>Before Chalabyan’s verdict, we remember that he was detained for months based on fears that he would interfere with his own case. This is a default modus operandi, it seems, for most suspects who happen to pose a political threat to Nikol Pashinyan</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armen Ashotyan’s trial and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32767431.html">detention</a>
<ul>
<li>He has now been in custody for more than 6 months and his detention was extended by another 3 months.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Karen, you are active in talking about political prisoners and cases of judicial harassment in Armenia. Your friends have recently <a href="https://step1.am/blog/2023/12/13/8306/">started</a> the <strong>Armenian Center for Political Rights</strong> and have already issued a <a href="https://armhels.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Joint_Report_HCA_ACPR_10.01.2024_ARM.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3mDviEX9CqEEAs1QFf9Q6I-YYvVTtxY7Qt1YOPxMzVjFP9U3CVCoIMOGE">statement</a> about Avetik Chalabyan’s verdict.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a problem with political prisoners and judicial harassment in Armenia?</li>
<li>How serious is it when various international orgs are still giving Armenia high grades in democracy &amp; freedom?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="negotiations--peace-treaty">Negotiations &amp; “Peace Treaty”</h2>
<p>This week, Armen Grigoryan had an <a href="https://www.1tv.am/en/video/Interview-with-Armen-Grigoryan/220209">interview</a> on H1. Here are some of the important points points he made; he said:</p>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan has been retreating from verbal agreements, in the drafts of the so-called “peace plan”. This appears to be <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1127976.html">affirmed</a> by Pashinyan in the news.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan refuses “mirrored” withdrawal</li>
<li>“Russia has not yet given an answer why Artsakh was depopulated.”</li>
</ul>
<p>Aliyev had a big pre-election press conference earlier in the week, mentioning several key points (we’re paraphrasing):</p>
<ul>
<li>If Armenia doesn&rsquo;t open a corridor (without security &amp; customs checks for Azerbaijanis) then Armenia will forever remain a “dead end”</li>
<li>Aliyev rejected Armen Grigoryan’s opinion, saying that “we don&rsquo;t need no stinking guarantors for peace treaty”</li>
<li>Aliyev said that if international organizations want to help in border delimitation they&rsquo;re welcome to do so, but it won’t be binding. Essentially he’s saying thanks but no thanks.</li>
<li>Jermuk was theirs and they don’t intend to pull back forces from the region</li>
<li>Threatened to arrest Artsakh leaders in Yerevan.</li>
</ul>
<p>Aliyev held another press conference on Saturday, where he openly claimed Yerevan as an Azerbaijani territory, saying that it was unjustly taken away from Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With Azerbaijan increasing its maximalist rhetoric, we still hear hopes of a “peace treaty” being signed from leaders in Armenia. In reality, how big is the gap between the maximal demands of Azerbaijan and the actual needs of the sides?</li>
<li>Even if a piece of paper with the words “peace” on it is signed between Aliyev and Pashinyan, will it mean anything? Both Pashinyan and Aliyev have said that war could break out the day after signing the treaty, so what’s the point of all this meaningless process? Especially since as we enumerated, none of the points that are important to Armenia will even be in it.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-military-capacity">Armenia’s Military Capacity</h2>
<p>Most military analysts we talk to agree with the old Roman adage “Si vis pacem, para bellum”. In other words, to prepare for peace, we need to prepare for war. So the only guarantee for peace is a high level of military preparedness.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can the theory that only military strength leads to peace be wrong?
<ul>
<li>In other words, it seems Pashinyan’s theory is that we must be demonstrably weak, in order to have peace.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is Armenia doing its best to prepare for war?</li>
<li>Year after year we’ve heard about “military reforms”, yet the Armenian army is nowhere to be found, where there’s a conflict to defend Armenia. What’s your view of these so-called “reforms”?</li>
<li>What is Armenia’s military capacity today?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="rearming-the-military">Rearming the Military</h3>
<p>Let’s go into more details… During 2023 Armenia appears to have made some weapon procurements from countries that are not traditional sources of arms. Pashinyan’s team claims this hits two birds: diversification of military procurement, and reversing the negative effects of the war in Ukraine, which allegedly limited Russian fulfillment of Armenia’s pre-paid weaponry contracts with $400 million.</p>
<p>Armenia has <a href="https://www.eurasiantimes.com/france-joins-india-to-arm-armenia-against-azerbaijan/">reportedly</a> ordered Pinaka and <a href="https://www.eurasiantimes.com/akash-missiles-armenia-emerges-prime-contender/">Akash</a> missiles from India, as well as their anti-drone radar systems. We don’t really know what has been delivered, except that Azerbaijan’s complaints and warnings about arming Armenia through Iran were complemented with radar images, so we assume some weaponry has entered Armenia,</p>
<p>Later in 2023 France shifted strategy and joined India in <a href="https://www.barrons.com/news/france-announces-sale-of-defensive-weapons-to-armenia-890aa2bb">providing Armenia</a> with “defensive weaponry”. France is providing Armenia with Ground Master 200 air defense radar systems complemented with Mistral missiles, as well as the <a href="https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_november_2023_global_security_army_industry/france_secretly_deliver_at_least_22_bastion_4x4_apcs_to_armenia.html#google_vignette">Bastion</a> Armored Personnel Carriers (APCs), and <a href="https://www.ouest-france.fr/europe/armenie/des-vehicules-de-transport-de-troupes-bastion-livres-a-larmenie-8121f358-81f9-11ee-a407-397218b61e71">more</a>.</p>
<h2 id="what-needs-to-be-done">What Needs To Be Done?</h2>
<p>A number of things have been tried by the opposition in Armenia over the past 3 years to change Armenia’s foreign policy, defense and negotiations posture, but they have failed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why does the opposition keep failing?</li>
<li>What is the solution in your opinion?</li>
<li>How does your idea of “rational nationalism” fit into the picture of a solution?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-participants">Topics from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Karen</strong>: Ruling party attacks against the church and Catholicos of all Armenians.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Non-combat deaths in the army</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>301</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan - Crossroads of Peace | Iran | Russia | French Weapons | Artsakh | Ep 301 - January 7, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 01/07/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Public TV Cancels Catholicos New Year’s Address
* Governor Hunting Season
* “Zangezur corridor” redux; “Peace treaty”
* Thoughts from the Participants
* Podcasts, labels, and language of division
Episode 301 | Recorded: January 8, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Public TV Cancels Catholicos New Year’s Address
* Governor Hunting Season
* “Zangezur corridor” redux; “Peace treaty”
* Thoughts from the Participants
* Podcasts, labels, and language of division
Episode 301 | Recorded: January 8, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Public TV Cancels Catholicos New Year’s Address
* Governor Hunting Season
* “Zangezur corridor” redux; “Peace treaty”
* Thoughts from the Participants
* Podcasts, labels, and language of division
Episode 301 | Recorded: January 8, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="state-tv-cancels-catholicos-new-years-address">State TV Cancels Catholicos New Year’s Address</h2>
<p>For the past few decades the tradition has been that the Catholicos of All Armenians addresses the nation on New Year’s eve, followed by addresses by the top leader of the nation: either the president or the prime minister.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32756257.html">Reportedly</a>, at the last minute Public TV tried to switch the time of the catholicos’ address to an earlier slot, to be shown during the evening news, but Etchmiadzin refused it. As a result, the address of the catholicos was not aired on December 31st, 2023.</p>
<p>Many observers and analysts believe that this negative attitude by Public TV, which is run by Nikol Pashinyan cronies, is due to Pashinyan’s contentious and confrontational relationship and posture towards the Armenian church.</p>
<p>Along with many Armenian and diasporan institutions since the disastrous 44-day war, the church has also joined calls asking for Pashinyan to resign and give way to the formation of a new government of unity.</p>
<p>BACKGROUND: (just to name a few of the points of friction…)</p>
<ul>
<li>During the 2018 coup, there was a similar effort by the revolutionaries to do a coup in the church, the movement was called: Նոր հայաստան, նոր հայրապետ. During those days, the Catholicos was even physically assaulted by this group. One of the organizers of this group, Karen Petrosyan, during the peak days of the movement in July 2018, <a href="https://www.1in.am/2389668.html">was appointed</a> as the director of the State Engineering University of Armenia, Gyumri branch.</li>
<li>In 2019, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/989524/">claiming</a> that some clergy are conspiring against him, warned that those clergy  “will be brought down to their knees both literally and figuratively”.</li>
<li>In 2021, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.aravot.am/2023/04/21/1336615/">said</a> &ldquo;If the church&rsquo;s relationship with the government is not good, then the church&rsquo;s relationship with God is not good&rdquo;</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s education ministers have pushed the topic of the History of Armenian Church out of the primary education curriculum, first promising that it would be covered in combination with Armenian history, but the church complains that even that promise has been broken.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s relationship with the Armenian church has been shaky since 2018. What brought on this escalation at the turn of this year?</li>
<li>What can the church do, in the face of an aggressive and adversarial government?</li>
<li>Where do you see this relationship heading in 2024?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="governor-hunting-season">Governor Hunting Season</h2>
<p>In the past few weeks, various Armenian regional officials, for example Marz governors have been apparently fired and replaced: Aram Khachatryan, governor of <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1127324.html">Lori</a>; Eduard Hovannisyan, governor of <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1127430.html">Armavir</a>; Ararat Grigoryan, governor of <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1125736.html">Vayots Dzor</a> and the reinstatement of ruling party loyalist <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1125696.html">deputy governors</a>; as well as various cabinet ministers shuffling between appointments. The sackings happen after Pashinyan’s public visits to those regions, where he inspects upgraded infrastructure; for example, at remodeled schools on camera he found some deficiencies in the work, such as a coat hook in a locker room, which fell off after Pashinyan visibly applied force to it; in another instance, Pashinyan argued that the basketball gym was not built to official standards of basketball. Pashinyan is apparently a basketball expert too!</p>
<p>Analysts believe we may be seeing early indications that Civil Contract is planning early elections in Armenia. There have been more frequent Civil Contract leadership meetings chaired by Pashinyan himself. Also, on this show we have discussed that Ilham Aliyev has pushed for early presidential elections in Azerbaijan. His so-called “re-election” will happen next month, February 2024, instead of October of 2025.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we seeing a ruling party push for early national elections in Armenia? Why?</li>
<li>Are these elections related with Aliyev’s early elections in Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>How are these related to the Armenia-Azerbaijani negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="zangezur-corridor--peace-treaty-redux">“Zangezur corridor” &amp; “Peace treaty” Redux</h2>
<p>After the 44-day war and for two years we heard both Turkey and Azerbaijan loudly argue for a so-called “Zangezur corridor”, their spin on point 9 of the Nov 10, 2020 statement, which specifies that Russian border guards should secure the “economic and transport links in the region”, specifically through Armenia that connect Azerbaijan proper with Nakhijevan. Pashinyan has argued that Erdogan and Aliyev want an “extra-territorial” corridor, but then again, he signed under a declaration which apparently gives responsibility for “control” over transit routes to a third country.</p>
<p>Sometime after spring of 2023, Baku and Ankara changed their tune, <a href="https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=78546&amp;lang=3">saying</a> that the “Zangezur corridor” is no longer interesting to them since they have a “Plan B” which goes through Iran. They proceeded to sign paperwork with Iran and ceremoniously started construction of a rail link through Northern Iran.</p>
<p>Then, in October of 2023, during testimony in congress the State Department’s James O’Brien <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32687150.html">said</a> that a transit corridor through Armenia by force or with involvement of Iran will evoke a strong reaction. This was at the same testimony where he said that the US is ceasing official high-level visits with Azerbaijan and said “no business as usual” duo to the ethnic cleansing in Artsakh, only to <a href="https://www.state.gov/assistant-secretary-obriens-meetings-in-baku/">fly to Baku</a> himself two weeks later.</p>
<p>Now, as 2024 rolled in, Baku officials are again <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32762834.html">demanding</a> a “corridor” through Armenia and using  the term “Zangezur corridor”. Aliyev himself towards the end of 2022 had said that Azerbaijani citizens should not be inspected by Armenian customs or security officials.</p>
<p>Over the weekend Turkey again, through its Defense Minister Guler, <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/800643.html">said</a> that it is imperative to sign a so-called “peace treaty” with Azerbaijan. We all know that Turkey has been holding the establishment of relations between Turkey and Armenia hostage to the Armenian-Azerbaijani treaty. During the same press-conference, Guler said that Turkey’s military cooperation with Azerbaijan will only increase.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can we assume that  when Azerbaijan uses the term “corridor”, they’re really talking about an extra-territorial link through Armenia? Why is Azerbaijan talking corridors through Armenia again?
<ul>
<li>Is this round of “Zangezur corridors” motivated by long-running Turkish dreams as you say, or a consequence of US backlash against Iranian involvement in regional unblocking and detente?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="opposition-gets-access-to-treaty-document">Opposition Gets Access to Treaty Document</h3>
<p>Three Armenian opposition members were allowed to see drafts of the so-called “peace treaty” that is in the process of negotiation. Confidentiality is an important condition for such access, so the opposition members aren’t able to specify any details, however, they did issue a dire warning, <a href="https://news.am/eng/reviews/34137.html">saying</a> that getting familiarized with the document “only proved its danger and confirmed all fears.”</p>
<p>According to Hayastan Alliance MP Ishkhan Saghatelyan the treaty in question has nothing to do with peace, and will consolidate Azeri gains. In fact he says that Azerbaijan will not leave Armenian territory; there is nothing about Armenia’s 29,800 km.sq.; Artsakh and Armenian prisoners will remain in jail in Baku; border demarcation and delimitation is left to an undetermined future process.</p>
<p>We also know that Aliyev has alluded to <a href="https://youtu.be/JyN_DkXSGGI?si=Mn9tqMTuIV-5Gmfc">guarantees</a> that Armenia will never again be a military threat to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a capitulation document? Are fears expressed by the opposition, and a large segment of both republic and diasporan Armenians, justified that this is a disastrous treaty to sign?</li>
<li>Why is Pashinyan so adamant to sign it if it is so frightening?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<p><strong>Hovik</strong>: If you haven’t discovered them yet, check out the following two Artsakhtsi-run podcasts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@podcut88">փոդքաթ / podcut</a>: Hosted by two journalists from Artsakh, in Artsakh dialect. This podcast was started recently, after the ethnic cleansing in Artsakh.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@inadu.podcast">Inadu / Ինադու</a>: Hosted by two young ladies (Nina and Shogher) from Artsakh, in literary Armenian dialect. The podcast was started in Artsakh during the blockade and documents the ordeals of the blockade, then the abrupt war, and displacement.</li>
</ul>
<p>A controversy arose when on the Inadu podcast, the hosts in <a href="https://youtu.be/BJIVNlH_YaM?si=7YP8q8V8bbqnhdBM">episode 11</a> were trying to relay how to talk to Artsakhtsis to minimize their trauma. Unfortunately, they made some statements that reverberated negatively. Specifically, they said not to use the term “Karabakh clan” and went on to say that most Artsakhtsis had nothing to do with the “Karabakh clan” and were also victims. This immediately transformed the discussion into a political one and specifically using the ugly terminology “K clan” which was devised to foster anti-Artsakhtsi hate.</p>
<p>Narek Samsonyan and Vazgen Saghatelyan from the “Imnemnimi” podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbnRJye99Pc">reacted</a> to this, but in my opinion the “accent” (excuse my pun) was put on the wrong thing, bringing up purported evidence that one of the hosts is related to a government member from the days of Serzh Sargsyan and Robert Kocharyan and thus were also part of the “clan”.</p>
<p>In reality, the answer is simple. Those who coined the term “Karabakh clan” meant to spread hate against Artsakhtsis and therefore any use of the term should be rejected. The hosts of Inadu should not have used that term.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/301/thumbnail-301.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/301/thumbnail-301.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14277451-tevan-poghosyan-canceling-the-catholicos-governor-shuffle-zangezur-corridor-peace-treaty-redux-ep-301-jan-7-2024.mp3" length="39081724" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3254</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Shahramanyan Annuls Artsakh Dissolution | Insecurity without Borders | Pashinyan in St. Petersburgh | Year-end Predictions | Ep 300, Dec 31, 2023
[EP300]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/300-benyamin-poghosyan-shahramanyan-annuls-artsakh-dissolution-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-pashinyan-saint-petersburgh/</link><pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14223732-benyamin-poghosyan-shahramanyan-annuls-artsakh-dissolution-insecurity-without-borders-pashinyan-in-st-petersburgh-year-end-predictions-ep-300-dec-31-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>300</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Shahramanyan Annuls Artsakh Dissolution | Insecurity without Borders | Pashinyan in St. Petersburgh | Year-end Predictions | Ep 300, Dec 31, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - December 31, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh President Annuls Dissolution of Republic
* Insecurity without Borders
* Pashinyan in St. Petersburg
* Year-end 2023 Predictions Review
* Predictions for 2024
Episode 300 | Recorded: December 31, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh President Annuls Dissolution of Republic
* Insecurity without Borders
* Pashinyan in St. Petersburg
* Year-end 2023 Predictions Review
* Predictions for 2024
Episode 300 | Recorded: December 31, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh President Annuls Dissolution of Republic
* Insecurity without Borders
* Pashinyan in St. Petersburg
* Year-end 2023 Predictions Review
* Predictions for 2024
Episode 300 | Recorded: December 31, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="artsakh-president-annuls-dissolution-of-republic">Artsakh President Annuls Dissolution of Republic</h2>
<p>Three months after Azerbaijan’s invasion of Artsakh Republic and eviction of its remaining 100,000 population, president-in-exile Samvel Shahramanyan has allegedly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32743402.html">annulled his declaration</a> of dissolving the republic on January 1, 2024, which he had made under duress, to save more civilians from brutal torture and murder.</p>
<p>There are a number of serious caveats to this story:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, the original document claiming to be that of dissolution of Artsakh has never been officially published, Shahramanyan made the declaration in the middle of a brutal invasion and with hundreds of Armenians being killed.</li>
<li>Even if this document was indeed what it is purported to be, legal analysts claim that it is invalid, since besides being made under duress, the executive branch cannot legally make a decision to dissolve all other branches of government and terminate a country like it’s a defunct business.</li>
<li>The news about the annulment comes from his adviser, Vladimir Grigoryan and not Shahramanyan himself. The following day, Grigoryan issued a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/vladimirgrigoryan/posts/pfbid0eMngTDwm8DbnnsosAYTecNkpy7EhsEQudY8fm7mKaPurocshPrPG1SbES3Bts3Aql">statement</a> indicating that what he said previously was his own personal opinion, and by the way, he is no longer Shahramanyan’s adviser. Many speculate that this was a result of the strong backlash from Civil Contract reps, which we’ll talk about below.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where does this leave the legal status of Artsakh?</li>
<li>What is the significance of the debate around the dissolution and the authenticity of these unpublished documents?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan and his government have washed their hands of Artsakh ever since their defeat in the 44-day war. The man who once said “Artsakh is Armenia Եւ Վերջ” now wants you to believe that the case of Artsakh was doomed from the start.</p>
<p>However, news of Shahramanyan’s annulment puts a spoke in Civil Contract’s dreams of closing the “Artsakh Chapter” out of their agenda, so last weekend they <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32746544.html">lashed out and slammed</a> Shahramanyan, calling him a “displaced person” no different than his 150,000 compatriots, and that he and his Artsakh government pose a threat to Armenia, and that none of their actions on Armenian territory can have legal force.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is the Civil Contract so freaked out about Shahramanyan’s statement, and why are they dead set against the survival and functionality of components of the state of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan cronies have all used the same terminology, that the remnants of the state of Artsakh pose a grave danger to Armenia’s national security.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this comes straight from Aliyev, that if Pashinyan doesn’t dismantle the state of Artsakh in Armenia, then Azerbaijan will attack?</li>
<li>What options does Armenia’s government have?</li>
<li>The Armenian opposition supports Shahramanyan, what can they do, how can they help?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="insecurity-without-borders">Insecurity without Borders</h2>
<p>Last week Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32740251.html">responded</a> to Armenia’s negotiating positions. First they stated that they would negotiate in Washington if Biden waives Section 907, which prevents US military support for Azerbaijan. Aliyev’s advisor Hikmet Hajiyev has also made it very clear that a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32746669.html">signed treaty is no guarantee for peace</a>. He also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32740661.html">proposed</a> that border discussions should not gate a “peace treaty”.</p>
<p>Azerbaijan has come under pressure to come back to negotiations, so this proposal is a clear effort to deflect that pressure by pretending that they’re willing to negotiate, while removing Armenia’s legitimate concerns off the agenda. And of course, Pashinyan’s government <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32743532.html">signaled yes</a>, they’re open to it!</p>
<p>Analysts say that throughout the evolution of the negotiations post 2020, the Armenian side was vying for three key points to be included in any signed document:</p>
<ul>
<li>Status of Artsakh (which later got downgraded to “rights and security of Armenian residents of Karabakh”).</li>
<li>Clear delimitation based on Soviet maps (which started from the 1926 maps, which did not have any enclaves to the 1975 maps featuring Azerbaijani enclaves whose legitimacy is contested)</li>
<li>Opening of transportation routes, which Pashinyan claimed would be a challenge to Armenia’s sovereignty and thus wanted to remove Russia as a security guarantor of the road.</li>
</ul>
<p>Aliyev cynically says that he solved the problem of Artsakh. World powers seem to be willing to accept this and are working hard to push the sides to sign. Pashinyan himself seems to have accepted this since he’s continuing negotiations.</p>
<p>Now, it appears that Azerbaijan wants to take out any specificity about borders.</p>
<p>Many analysts are not certain how Armenia is going to go against Russia by undoing its signature on the Nov 10 statement, expecting that Russia will in the end control the roads connecting Azerbaijan with Nakhijevan.</p>
<p>So it seems that the three points which Armenia was hoping for will either be considered as obsolete or will be postponed, leading to a signature of a vague document.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of this last round of so-called “negotiations”?</li>
</ul>
<p>Prior to this round, even Pashinyan cronies had stated that border delimitation was a crucial goal towards security. Now they’re confusing the Armenian people by talking from both sides of their mouth. Alen Simonyan is saying it’s OK to not talk about the border, while Ararat Mirzoyan is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32749732.html">saying</a> that the border discussions are important for the treaty.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is it that they’re saying, or signaling to Azerbaijan? How is it ok to negotiate for peace without borders, or recognition of Armenia’s sovereignty?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russian-peacekeepers">Russian Peacekeepers</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, Russia is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32741962.html">still “peacekeeping” in Artsakh</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are Russia’s objectives in Artsakh, without any Armenians to watch over?</li>
<li>The EU, the US, France, and Russia have all stated that September did not close the chapter on Artsakh. Is there a convergence of vision for a future status of Artsakh: with or without independence, autonomy, or even Armenians?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-in-st-petersburg">Pashinyan in St. Petersburg</h2>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32746785.html">Pashinyan’s was in St. Petersburg</a> last week, where he attended a summit of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) leaders. One major achievement was a sweeping free-trade agreement between the EAEU and Iran (a preliminary agreement was already in effect since 2019). Also, Armenia will assume the presidency of the EAEU in 2024.</p>
<p>In the past six months or more, Armenia has pretty much boycotted Russian-led post-soviet alliances: the CSTO, the CIS, the EAEU. And while Pashinyan’s government has been slamming Russian-led alliances, Armenia’s economic dependence on Russia is deep. A third of Armenia’s economy, and half of all exports, depend on Russia. So when Russia raised technical difficulties at the Lars border checkpoint, Pashinyan knew that this was an invitation he could not refuse, to go to St. Petersburg.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does it make any sense for Armenia’s leadership to diverge the country’s security alignment away from its economic wellbeing and dependence, especially considering the currently antagonistic relationship between the West and Russia?
<ul>
<li>To this end, there is some <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32735702.html">realization</a> in the government that they can’t kick Russia out without a more diversified economy, but that would take years, if not decades.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="review--outlook">Review &amp; Outlook</h1>
<h2 id="2023">2023</h2>
<p>As this is the last show of 2023, let’s review like we did a year ago for our January 1, 2023 show; that was <a href="https://youtu.be/19k2RprKUCI">Episode 197</a>.</p>
<p>In that show we looked back over 2022, and we each made one high, one medium, and one low probability prediction for 2023.</p>
<h4 id="asbed">Asbed</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: Political resolution to war in Ukraine: ❎</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: Kremlin power struggle that would cost defense minister and other military types their jobs. ❎
<ul>
<li>Note: there <strong>was</strong> a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_rebellion">putsch attempt</a> in June of 2023 by the <strong>Wagner Group</strong>, but it was unsuccessful. ✅</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: In the case of a Kremlin power shuffle, Putin might lose power. ❎
<ul>
<li>Note: Putin dealt with the Wagner putsch within 36 hours, and the group was disbanded, while Prigozhin and his leadership team went to Belarus. Two months later they were <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-officially-confirms-wagner-leader-yevgeny-prigozhin-died-in-plane-crash">killed</a> in a plane “accident”.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="benyamin">Benyamin</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: There will be escalations of violence and threats by Azerbaijan. ✅</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: The war in Ukraine will continue. No change in Artsakh Status. ✅❎</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: Armenia will not capitulate. There won’t be a putsch against Putin. There won’t be a Ukraine-Russia peace treaty. ✅❎✅</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="hovik">Hovik</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: There will be escalations of violence and threats by Azerbaijan. ✅</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: Pashinyan’s motorcade will grow in 2023. ✅</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: Pashinyan will be tried for treason. ❎</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="2024">2024</h2>
<p>Make three predictions for 2024, one that you think is high probability of happening, a medium, and low probability.</p>
<h4 id="asbed-1">Asbed</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: The Armenian real estate market may experience a significant downturn.</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: Trump may get elected US president again.</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: The Israel-Gaza war may expand to engulf other regional powers.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="benyamin-1">Benyamin</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: Some sort of Armenia-Azerbaijan agreement will be signed, but threats on Armenia will continue.</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: Conflict in Ukraine will be frozen. Maybe a ceasefire level agreement.</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: Some Armenians may return to Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="hovik-1">Hovik</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>High</strong>: Some meaningless Armenia-Azerbaijan “treaty” will be signed. Enclaves may be captured by Azerbaijan.</li>
<li><strong>Medium</strong>: Pashinyan will take more dictatorial steps to cling to power. The West will turn a blind eye.</li>
<li><strong>Low</strong>: The Armenian opposition will figure out how to struggle more effectively.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p><strong>HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE</strong>, we hope that 2024 is a better year for Armenians around the world than 2023 was, and we look forward to continuing our podcasts and our stimulating interactions with you, our listeners around the world.</p>
<p>That&rsquo;s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a>, we hope you found it helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms.
Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>299</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Negotiations | Point Zero | Western Interests | Israel Gaza Conflict | Ep 299 - Dec 17, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Dec 17, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Negotiations
* Strategy, Prisoner Exchange, “Point Zero”
* The West’s Interests
* Israel-Gaza Conflict
Episode 299 | Recorded: December 18, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Negotiations
* Strategy, Prisoner Exchange, “Point Zero”
* The West’s Interests
* Israel-Gaza Conflict
Episode 299 | Recorded: December 18, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Negotiations
* Strategy, Prisoner Exchange, “Point Zero”
* The West’s Interests
* Israel-Gaza Conflict
Episode 299 | Recorded: December 18, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="negotiations">Negotiations</h2>
<p>The past couple of weeks we’ve seen developments in Armenia’s interactions with Azerbaijan, Russia, the US, Turkey or the EU.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>Between Armenia and Russia, there’s a full on war of words, and even some actual actions afoot. For example the customs issues at the Lars checkpoint; the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32732616.html">claims and counter-claims</a> about Russian TV violations of intergovernmental agreements for retransmission in Armenia; the threats of <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32732393.html">exiting the CSTO</a> and the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32732185.html">warnings from Russia</a> about it; etc.</li>
<li>With Azerbaijan, there was the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32729227.html">exchange of prisoners</a>; Armenia’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32730578.html">call</a> to return to negotiations in the west; to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32732542.html">pull back</a> armed forces from the borders; and for the millionth time reaffirming its commitment to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32730843.html">opening transportation links</a> for Turkish-Azeri use. All of which seem to have fallen on deaf ears.</li>
<li>On the EU front, they’re expanding their monitoring mission in Armenia, but Charles Michel has suddenly become <a href="https://groong.org/news/msg138353.html">unable to say</a> “Nagorno-Karabakh”, he just Artsakh “that region of Azerbaijan”.</li>
<li>Meanwhile the US and Turkey play good cop bad cop with Armenia. Turkey pushes Armenia to open the “Zangezur corridor”, while the US tries to make sure Russia and Iran don’t control whatever Turkish corridor connects the Turanic world, and puts it in terms of protecting Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<p>Should we look at these from the perspective of crisis management and negotiation tactics?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a strategy to Armenia’s overall approach to negotiations?</li>
<li>Is there an unstated Pashinyan doctrine that governs the government’s approach?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="prisoner-exchange">Prisoner Exchange</h3>
<p>Arthur, the last time you were on our show (<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/281">see Episode 281</a>) we asked you about how Armenia should negotiate with Azerbaijan when the latter is holding on to tens if not hundreds of Armenian prisoners (or hostages to be more precise). You responded that this was akin to negotiating with the devil and provided a stern warning that by accepting to negotiate while the prisoners are still in Baku and being used against us, is tantamount to accepting the “devil’s” terms. You said that Armenia should cease negotiations until the issue of the prisoners is settled by the mediators.</p>
<p>Armenia implemented a so-called “prisoner swap” with Azerbaijan where Armenia released two Azerbaijani criminals who infiltrated Armenia and one of whom murdered an Armenian civilian, in <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2023/12/07/Announcement/">exchange</a> for 32 Armenian soldiers, most of whom seem to be from the Khtsaberd incident.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about what happened so far?</li>
<li>Your advice in the past was that the mediators should work to secure the release of prisoners, but it seems that everyone (including Armenia) is accepting that keeping some hostages is fine during these negotiations. How is it possible for Azerbaijan to keep POWs for this long (3 years) - and it has acquired new ones along the way too - while being treated by the international community as a legitimate negotiating party?</li>
</ul>
<p>The means through which the two Azerbaijani criminals were released also leaves a lot of questions to be asked, especially since Akhundov’s sentence (the one that murdered the Armenian security guard) was extended just last week to a life sentence. According to a <a href="https://hraparak.am/post/67e503604272a876fed8f5d17daba2e1">Hraparak article</a>, there are three 3 ways that criminals like this could be released:</p>
<ul>
<li>International convention where a criminal who is a foreign citizen can be released to the country they&rsquo;re a citizen of in order to serve their sentence there. Hard to believe that Azerbaijan will make Akhundov serve even 1 day, we already saw pictures of him getting a hero&rsquo;s welcome at home.</li>
<li>Court releases the individual conditionally.</li>
<li>On the prime minister’s recommendation, the president issues a pardon.</li>
</ul>
<p>While the government is silent, the Hraparak article surmises that the latter (a pardon) is the most likely scenario considering the first two would require a lot of paperwork and judicial hearings.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, after the news of the release, the family of the murdered security guard spoke up that the Armenian government hasn’t sought their approval for this move and criticized the exchange of criminals for legitimate prisoners as unjust.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How important is it to communicate this issue properly with the public? How important is it to seek the approval of the victim’s family?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="point-zero">“Point Zero”</h3>
<p>The exchange of prisoners was presented with great fanfare in government-controlled media, and as a great success in the west. Even Turkey, Russia, Iran and others joined the US and dozens of EU countries in congratulating it. Pashinyan took it a step further and dubbed the exchange in <a href="https://www.azernews.az/nation/218895.html">his own words</a> as the new “point zero” in negotiations.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We were at ground zero in 2018, we’re still at zero now. But really, what does it mean to have a so-called “point zero” in negotiations? Does it mean you ignore everything that came before?</li>
</ul>
<p>Following Pashinyan’s announcement, Ararat Mirzoyan on December 13 said that Armenia and Azerbaijan were in talks to <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/yerevan_and_baku_discuss_possibility_of_mirror_withdrawal_of_troops_from_border_areas_foreign_minist/">withdraw </a>from the border in a mirrored fashion. Despite this positive announcement and for all the talk about “point zero”, Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32732542.html">rejected</a> withdrawing their forces until a final agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Azerbaijan invested in discussions for peace? Why would they reject a step that could only bring an environment of mutual trust?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-wests-interests">The West’s Interests</h2>
<p>We’ve frequently covered the tensions between the West and Russia in the Caucasus.</p>
<p>This week, there was a new article in The Foreign Policy In Focus titled <a href="https://fpif.org/in-the-caucasus-the-u-s-priority-is-fossil-fuels-not-armenians/">“IN THE CAUCASUS, THE U.S. PRIORITY IS FOSSIL FUELS, NOT ARMENIANS”</a>.</p>
<pre><code>_“As we go from the medium to the longer term, there’s going to have to be some effort made to help integrate these folks into Armenian life,” AID official Alexander Sokolowski [told](https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hearing/the-future-of-nagorno-karabakh/) Congress in November. “Many of them dream of going back to Nagorno-Karabakh, but for right now, they’re oriented towards making a life in Armenia.”_
</code></pre>
<p>It is easy to simplify these east vs west arguments into an absurd binary where one is good while the other is bad. But at the risk of crossing that line, we wanted to ask you:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think of the ideas expressed in this article?</li>
<li>Are fossil fuels and energy the only interests the west has in the Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israel-gaza-conflict">Israel-Gaza Conflict</h2>
<p>Last time we spoke, October 1, most of the world thought that the possibility of additional conflicts was remote. Yet only a week later we saw a brazen attack by Hamas on October 7 followed by a punitive Israeli offensive into Gaza, which is still raging on.</p>
<p>Despite ramping worldwide backlash against Israel’s disproportionate response, Biden’s administration continues steadfast support for Israel, even though behind the scenes it has given Netanyahu warning to stop targeting civilians. Regardless, the US is providing military support to Israel as well, sending tens of thousands of missiles to help it “defend” itself against Gaza.</p>
<p>There is waning support in the west to keep bankrolling the war in Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the west distracted by the war in Gaza, or do they realize that they’re not going to spend Russia into the ground, given that China is behind it, or some other reason why the west is now publicly discussing lower levels of funding and support for Ukraine?</li>
<li>What are some of the outcomes from the Israel-Gaza war that could affect Armenia and the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Georgia and the EU candidacy.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Will Georgia in the EU help or Harm Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP298]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/298-aghasi-yenokian-ruling-party-power-grabs-early-elections-judiciary-concerns-new-book/</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14146140-aghasi-yenokian-ruling-party-power-grabs-early-elections-judiciary-concerns-ep-298-dec-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>298</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aghasi Yenokian - Ruling Party Power Grabs | Early Elections | Judiciary Concerns | Ալտերնատիվ պատմություն Հայոց | Ep 298, Dec. 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 12/14/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Ruling Party Power Grabs
* Why is Civil Contract so Adamant on Total Municipal Control
* Political Prisoners
* Early/Snap Elections?
* Armenia’s Controlled Judiciary
* About Yenokian’s new book: Ալտերնատիվ պատմություն Հայոց
Episode 298 | Recorded: December 13, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Ruling Party Power Grabs
* Why is Civil Contract so Adamant on Total Municipal Control
* Political Prisoners
* Early/Snap Elections?
* Armenia’s Controlled Judiciary
* About Yenokian’s new book: Ալտերնատիվ պատմություն Հայոց
Episode 298 | Recorded: December 13, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Ruling Party Power Grabs
* Why is Civil Contract so Adamant on Total Municipal Control
* Political Prisoners
* Early/Snap Elections?
* Armenia’s Controlled Judiciary
* About Yenokian’s new book: Ալտերնատիվ պատմություն Հայոց
Episode 298 | Recorded: December 13, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="ruling-party-power-grabs">Ruling Party Power Grabs</h1>
<h2 id="alaverdi">Alaverdi</h2>
<p>Back in 2021 Aprelu Yerkir was able to garner enough votes in the elections to install Arkadi Tamazyan as the mayor of the region, which includes <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32715584.html">Alaverdi</a> and a dozen or so townships. In order to succeed, Aprelu Yerkir struck an alliance with Levon Ter-Petrosyan’s Armenian National Congress (ANC, or HAK) to gain a one seat majority in the city council. This was a serious setback for Pashinyan, and Civil Contract.</p>
<p>In July one Aprelu Yerkir councilman (Simon Zakharov) defected to Civil Contract and caused a loss of quorum in the city council. Long story short, Pashinyan’s party was able to use this defection to replace Tamazyan with Civil Contract’s Davit Ghumashyan.</p>
<p>In Armenia’s third largest city, Vanadzor, Mamikon Aslanyan was <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2021/12/16/Mamikon-Aslanyan-lawyers/2614441">jailed</a> on charges of corruption after being elected mayor and defeating Civil Contract in 2021. Two years later he’s still in jail, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32460951.html">replaced</a> by a Civil Contract member, whom Pashinyan was empowered to appoint through a parliamentary bill in April 2022.</p>
<h2 id="gyumri">Gyumri</h2>
<p>There have been other instances around the country since 2021 including in <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31556995.html">Goris</a>, Meghri, Akhurian, Agarak, where post-election results have been co-opted towards ruling party control.</p>
<p>In October 2021 there were municipal elections in Gyumri. In a humongous surprise, the Balasanyan alliance, which <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/136835">got first place</a> but not majority, decided to enter a power-sharing deal not with the Republican Party, nor the Zartonk party, nor Aprelu Yerkir (all of which can be seen as oppositional). Instead, Balasanyan went into a power-sharing deal with Civil Contract, against whom it was campaigning.</p>
<p>Well, now, about 2 years later, Civil Contract announced last week that they will be <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32718827.html">annulling</a> that power sharing deal. It <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32726001.html">remains to be seen</a> what the result of this action will be, but many speculate that Civil Contract will continue to use pressure to trigger a vote of no confidence. Mayor Balasanyan has so far <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32729392.html">refused</a> to step down.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is going on in this country?</li>
<li>Why isn’t the opposition focusing on municipal elections?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="earlysnap-elections">Early/Snap Elections</h2>
<p>While the Civil Contract party officially denies it, there are persistent rumors that Pashinyan is planning to trigger early elections in Armenia. Some analysts point to the intensity of Civil Contract meetings around the country as one piece of evidence of preparations for elections. This is the reason, some say, that Pashinyan is also trying to take absolute control over local municipalities.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan preparing for early snap elections? Why? What does he gain from this?</li>
<li>We learned over the past weekend that Aliyev is also pushing for snap elections in February, 2024, a year and a half ahead of schedule. What do you think about “trend” in the South Caucasus, and what do you think it is related to?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenias-controlled-judiciary">Armenia’s Controlled Judiciary</h2>
<p>Over the past 5 years the ruling party has replaced all but a handful of the 350+ judges in the country. They’ve replaced the judges on the Constitutional Court, and they have taken complete control of the Supreme Judicial Council.</p>
<p>Also, Armenia is known to have dozens of political prisoners. Opposition members and elected officials are languishing in jails while their cases crawl through a court system that is heavily partisan and manipulated.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>While Tamazian and Aprelu Yerkir are saying that they plan to appeal the Alaverdi City Council decisions, is there any expectation that they can win in court when the Armenian judicial system is completely subservient to Civil Contract?</li>
<li>What options are available to the opposition in Armenia for fair outcomes in a failing democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="yenokians-new-book">Yenokian’s New Book</h2>
<p>As Yenokian’s new book <a href="https://zangakbookstore.am/alternativ-patmutyun-hayots">Ալտերնատիվ պատմություն Հայոց</a>
is now available, Hovik asks Aghasi to talk about it.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
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[EP297]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/297-sergei-melkonian-no-peace-negotiations-aliyev-azerbaijan-snap-elections-russia-armenia-ukraine-war/</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14145085-sergei-melkonian-no-peace-treaty-snap-elections-in-az-russia-armenia-russia-ukraine-ep-297-dec-10-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>297</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - 'No Peace' Negotiations | Aliyev Snap Elections | Russia Armenia Relations | Ukraine War | Ep 297, Dec 10, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - December 10, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* “No Peace” Treaty Negotiations
* Turkish-Azeri goal: Demilitarized Armenia (aka Batumi Treaty 2.0)
* Humiliating Swap of Azeri Criminals for Armenian Hostages
* Aliyev Calls for Snap Elections
* Russia-Armenian Relations
* Russia-Ukraine War
Episode 297 | Recorded: December 10, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* “No Peace” Treaty Negotiations
* Turkish-Azeri goal: Demilitarized Armenia (aka Batumi Treaty 2.0)
* Humiliating Swap of Azeri Criminals for Armenian Hostages
* Aliyev Calls for Snap Elections
* Russia-Armenian Relations
* Russia-Ukraine War
Episode 297 | Recorded: December 10, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* “No Peace” Treaty Negotiations
* Turkish-Azeri goal: Demilitarized Armenia (aka Batumi Treaty 2.0)
* Humiliating Swap of Azeri Criminals for Armenian Hostages
* Aliyev Calls for Snap Elections
* Russia-Armenian Relations
* Russia-Ukraine War
Episode 297 | Recorded: December 10, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="no-peace-treaty-negotiations">“No Peace” Treaty Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="rollercoaster-continues">Rollercoaster Continues</h3>
<p>The so-called “peace negotiations” between Armenia and Azerbaijan resemble a rollercoaster. While Pashinyan and his government are begging for peace, Aliyev frequently goes from praising Pashinyan to making threats against Armenia. And so it was this week, when we were pretty sure that Aliyev had dumped the western platform for negotiations and we saw cancellations of high-level visits between the US and Azerbaijan and warnings from the US.</p>
<p>Then, ~~like nothing happened, ~~Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs James O’Brien <a href="https://eurasianet.org/us-diplomat-visits-azerbaijan-as-bilateral-tensions-subside">visited</a> Aliyev, and suddenly things appear to be on the mend.</p>
<p>Well, at least what happened next was that Aliyev and Pashinyan issued a rosy <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/press-release/item/2023/12/07/Announcement/">joint press release</a> with the following key points:</p>
<ul>
<li>Baku will release 32 POWs and hostages while Armenia will release the only 2 criminals it is known to keep.</li>
<li>The Foreign ministers will meet in Washington DC.</li>
<li>Armenia will support Baku’s bid to host COP-29 next year, and drop its own candidacy. On December 11, Azerbaijan was selected as the site of next year’s COP-29 meeting.</li>
<li>Azerbaijan will support Armenia’s candidacy for Eastern European Group COP Bureau membership.</li>
</ul>
<p>There was no discussion of the military-political leadership of Artsakh who are being held by Aliyev. If anything we <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32718877.html">read</a> from Pashinyan that he has no plan or strategy for dealing with issues regarding Artsakh.</p>
<p>Western countries, Iran, and even Turkey, tripped over each other to congratulate the sides (one of which committed a genocide just 2 months ago) and welcome the “breakthrough” development in talks.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your overall assessment of what happened here?</li>
<li>What did Armenia concede this time, and why?</li>
</ul>
<p>The sides made sure to mention that this deal to release Armenian hostages was reached <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1125828.html">bilaterally</a>, however, their release seemed to suspiciously coincide with O’Brien’s visit.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was discussed between the US and Azerbaijan? Who caved, and for what?</li>
<li>Did the “Zangezur Corridor” or the bypass through Iran come up?</li>
</ul>
<p>The US had previously warned that relations won’t be the same until Baku is on the “peace” path. There have also been so-called “threats”, that Washington is compiling a record of what happened in Artsakh, presumably referring to the complete ethnic cleansing in September 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So, is Aliyev back on Washington’s “Peace path”?</li>
<li>Is the US actually applying any pressure on Azerbaijan, and in what direction?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="turkish-azeri-goal-a-demilitarized-armenia-or-treaty-of-batumi-20">Turkish-Azeri Goal: A Demilitarized Armenia (or Treaty of Batumi 2.0)</h3>
<p>Throughout these negotiations at gunpoint, analysts on our podcast have been almost unanimous that a peace deal on paper will not actually mean anything if Azerbaijan is not negotiating in good faith.</p>
<p>On Wednesday Aliyev, in his speech at the ADA, made some verbal addenda and clarifications to the Azeri position on “peace”. He <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32717009.html">highlighted</a> that just because an Armenian-Azeri treaty is signed, it doesn’t mean that actual peace will take place. So there may be a treaty, but Aliyev is not committed to peace.</p>
<p>Specifically, he pointed out that Azerbaijan must have guarantees - perhaps outside the scope of the treaty - that Armenia will never again pose a threat to Azerbaijan. He complained about France and India providing arms to Armenia and said those actions are a “provocation” and once the level of arms becomes a threat, Azerbaijan will be forced to act.</p>
<p>The following day, Erdogan, on his way back from a visit to Greece also announced that Armenia must not be armed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are Azerbaijan, and by logical extension Turkey, honest partners in the negotiations with Armenia for peace?</li>
<li>How do the Turkish sides envision an Armenia that will forever be “peaceful” for them?</li>
<li>Is there a relationship between these demands to demilitarize Armenia and the fact that the Pashinyan government has invested so little in the Armenian armed forces, while spending more and more in police forces?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="a-humiliating-swap-of-criminals-for-hostages">A Humiliating Swap of Criminals for Hostages</h3>
<p>Regarding the prisoner exchange, Azerbaijan is known to hold much more than the 32 prisoners that were announced, with the prime example being the military-political leadership of Artsakh, including Ruben Vardanyan, Bako Sahakyan, Arkady Ghukasyan, Gen. Levon Mnatsakanyan, Gen. Davit Manukyan, and more, whom Azerbaijan clarified won’t be released.</p>
<p>In reality the number of hostages that Azerbaijan officially acknowledges holding is more than 50, while Armenian human rights activists say that they have proof of many more Armenians who were at one time in Azerbaijani custody and that the latter is withholding information about them.</p>
<p>The deal that was struck is that Azerbaijan will free 32 of the POWs it is holding. Armenia will free 2 Azeri brutal criminals, who infiltrated Armenia in 2022, and killed a peaceful, Armenian citizen! These guys are probably Azeri intelligence officers, spies, but they are not prisoners of war, there was no war when they sneaked into Armenia and killed Armenians. Genuine Ramil Safarovs.</p>
<p>Let’s remember that in November 2020, Pashinyan shipped to Baku another pair of criminals who had sneaked into Artsakh in 2014, and killed a teenage boy. Again, probably Azeri defense intelligence workers, spies, and valuable assets for Azerbaijan, but in no way “prisoners of war”. These intelligence assets were cheaply sent back to Azerbaijan by Pashinyan for no return. Aliyev did not return Armenian POWs in 2020 as per the November agreement he signed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>With the leadership of Artsakh still being hostage and apparently no remaining prisoners in Armenia to trade, what will be the fate of the military-political Artsakh in Azeri hands?</li>
<li>The Nov 10 statement talks about the exchange of POWs. Based on internationally recognized human rights principles, which require releasing hostages immediately after hostilities are over. Just last week, Pashinyan talked about the principle of “all for all” exchange. So what happened to that? Why are we in a situation where everyone is willing to turn a blind eye towards this?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the middle of these negotiations, Ilham <a href="https://www.azadliq.org/a/prezident-seckisi-olacaq/32719647.html">Aliyev has called for early presidential elections</a> to be held in just two months, on February 7, 2024, instead of the originally planned October 2025. Most analysts and observers are not aware of reasons for holding such snap elections.</p>
<p>Interestingly, just last week we were talking with Benyamin Poghosyan, and he noted that Azeri society will not remain in a state of post-war euphoria for very long, and Aliyev needs to come up with new schemes to keep his society in a nationalistic fervor and keep himself in power.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you attribute Aliyev’s rush to get “re-elected” now?
<ul>
<li>By the way, let’s note here that Aliyev is neither elected nor a president. He’s a dictator, but everyone appeases him due to the energy resources in Azerbaijan, so they call him a president.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia---armenia-relations">Russia - Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>Russia was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32722278.html">one of the last</a> to “congratulate” the sides on the prisoner swap deal.</p>
<p>The Russian-Armenian relationship remains a major concern for us as it seems that the Pashinyan administration is talking about “allied relations” with Russia but walking in a completely different direction. At stake is Armenia’s membership in the CSTO, the EAEU, the CIS, Russia’s military base in Armenia, favorable energy prices (gas, nuclear fuel), 50% of Armenia’s exports, and a third of the economy, just to name a few of the issues.</p>
<p>The genie is out of the bottle. Russian and Armenian officials take pot shots at each other routinely. Even at the level of analysts and experts, the atmosphere is now very pessimistic. Stanislav Tarasov, generally a pro-Armenian analyst recently said that “Armenia is at a dead-end, without any partners”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Sergei, you just came back from Russia, tell us what you heard? (Is Russia happy?)</li>
<li>Armenian leaders’ apparently reckless policies notwithstanding, is Russia going to watch while this slow-motion trainwreck happens?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="war-in-ukraine">War in Ukraine</h2>
<p>After nearly two years of gruesome fighting, hundreds of thousands of casualties, the war in Ukraine seems to be reaching the inevitable conclusion. The last-chance counteroffensive by Ukraine is now a resounding failure. Russia will have the initiative next and even the western press are now <a href="https://archive.ph/4YgHj">openly talking</a> about a Ukrainian defeat. Certainly western military aid for Ukraine is starting to slow down; this past week Republicans in the US Congress blocked over $61 Billion in aid for Ukraine, and even though we think that’s more related to in-House partisan bickering than about Ukraine, the slowing down of aid is clearly evident.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The new world order will depend heavily on how the war in Ukraine is resolved. What’s your assessment of this war?</li>
<li>How do you see the South Caucasus being affected by the outcome?</li>
<li>Regardless of the outcome, is there any chance that relations with Russia will improve? Europe will still need to buy Russian gas through Azerbaijan; Russia will still put great value on its link with India and The East through Azerbaijan and Iran. So can we expect more of the same policies detrimental to Armenia, even if the hot conflict is over?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: December 10, day of establishing Artsakh Statehood, in 1991.</li>
<li><strong>Sergei</strong>: Do not overestimate Azerbaijan, everything is possible.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP296]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/296-benyamin-poghosyan-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-diplomacy-with-the-west-relations-with-russia/</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/14083093-benyamin-poghosyan-status-of-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-armenian-diplomacy-in-the-west-relations-with-russia-ep-296-dec-3-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
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        Armenian News Network Groong - December 3, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Armenian Diplomacy in the West
* Relations with Russia
Episode 296 | Recorded: December 3, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Armenian Diplomacy in the West
* Relations with Russia
Episode 296 | Recorded: December 3, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Armenian Diplomacy in the West
* Relations with Russia
Episode 296 | Recorded: December 3, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<p>In the past two weeks since our last Week-in-Review show, the state of Armenian Azerbaijani negotiations appears to shift on a daily basis.</p>
<p>At this point it’s clear that Aliyev thinks he’s gotten the maximum out of western mediation so he’s now trying to shift the negotiations either to a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32694023.html">direct format</a> with Armenia, or one mediated through some regional player.</p>
<p>This past week Armenia forwarded its latest draft proposal in the talks, and indicated it is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32695001.html">willing</a> to continue negotiating with Azerbaijan, and deputy Prime Ministers Mher Grigoryan and Shahin Mustafaev <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32708691.html">met</a> “on the border” (Kazakh and Ijevan districts) for discussions on border delimitation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does the latest Armenian draft proposal contain, and where do the negotiations stand currently?</li>
<li>How does last week&rsquo;s border meeting fit in the vacuum of negotiations that we’ve seen since Granada?</li>
<li>Is the issue of so-called “enclaves” salient still?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="mediator-shuffle">Mediator Shuffle</h3>
<p>Azerbaijan has now excluded both <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32690889.html">France</a> and the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32687503.html">US</a> from acting as mediators. There have been more direct <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32689088.html">remarks</a> from EU and US diplomats that point to Azerbaijan as the party that’s stalling, or not keeping up its end of the bargain, while Azerbaijan continues to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32693298.html">ignore</a> their <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32692355.html">advances</a>. At a glance it would seem that this puts Azerbaijan in Russia’s camp.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is Azerbaijan’s current strategy? Is Aliyev actually interested in signing an agreement that Pashinyan would call a “peace deal”?</li>
<li>There have been some <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32686168.html">veiled threats</a> on the part of the west (the US at least), for example with the US saying that they’re “developing a record” of what happened in Artsakh. At the same time the US warned Azerbaijan about agreeing to a railway through Iran that Azerbaijan and Turkey are calling “Plan B” for their Zangezur corridor. What do you make of this? Is this a diplomatic way of telling Aliyev that the US knows that he committed genocide in Artsakh, or is this pressure building on Azerbaijan to come back to the negotiations and agree to some kind of a deal with Armenia, as discussed in the west? Is the West’s influence on Azerbaijan waning?</li>
<li>What is Russia’s and Iran’s stance about all of this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="crossroads-of-risk">Crossroads of Risk</h3>
<p>Azerbaijan has signed some agreements with Iran to connect through its territory with Nakhichevan, and Aliyev has said he has no further interest in his so-called “Zangezur corridor”. But Turkey continues to demand that Armenia open a Zangezur corridor.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Pashinyan’s team is telling everyone who’ll listen about his so-called “Crossroads of Peace” plan. It’s basically 2-4 roads crossing Armenia and connecting Azerbaijan with Turkey. Pashinyan has also complained that the plan is stalled because Aliyev is not interested in it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan socializing and legitimizing Aliyev’s “corridor” through Armenia, to the people of Armenia. Is this a new and original idea, or is it old wine in a new bottle?</li>
<li>Can we believe that Aliyev is not interested in this corridor, or is this a bluff that puts the next move in Pashinyan’s court?</li>
<li>Turkey’s attention is currently focused on Gaza and Israel, with Erdogan at least in words backing the Palestinians and definitely not making friends with the US and irritating NATO. Is this the case, and how is it affecting its involvement in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>Pashinyan keeps warning that the risk of military aggression by Azerbaijan remains high. What is the likelihood, or risk, at present?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-diplomacy-in-the-west">Armenian Diplomacy in the West</h2>
<p>Over the past week Ararat Mirzoyan was in Skopje, North Macedonia, for an OSCE meeting. He met with Anthony Blinken, Lavrov, Josep Borrell, and many FMs from the EU countries. He did not meet with Azerbaijan’s Jeyhun Bayramov, who was also attending.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Armen Grigoryan is currently in Washington DC.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What did Mirzoyan achieve in Skopje, and what is Grigoryan&rsquo;s mission or goals in DC?</li>
<li>Is there an emerging strategy to Armenia’s diplomacy, and if so what is it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h2>
<p>The relations between Armenia and Russia remain icy. Pashinyan, Armen Grigoryan, and Alen Simonyan have recently skipped CSTO meetings, but there’s a combined CIS and EAEU summit coming up in St. Petersburg in December and Russia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32706875.html">says</a> they expect Pashinyan will attend.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32706811.html">customs problems in Lars</a> are Russia’s way of telling Pashinyan that he better attend? And why do they want him to attend?</li>
<li>Armenia’s economy is deeply dependent on Russia, and if relations tank further then Pashinyan is putting Armenia at risk of some serious economic retaliation. Are we aware of anything that the west has committed to, to mitigate such a catastrophic outcome?</li>
<li>Is there any pathway to improving relations with Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Armenian sattelite Hayasat-1 Launched</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: More thoughts on the Armenian Satellite.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        ANN Groong Week in Review - November 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Latest MPG Poll Result Analysis
* Armenian Economy and 2024 Budget
Episode 295 | Recorded: Nov 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Latest MPG Poll Result Analysis
* Armenian Economy and 2024 Budget
Episode 295 | Recorded: Nov 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Latest MPG Poll Result Analysis
* Armenian Economy and 2024 Budget
Episode 295 | Recorded: Nov 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="pashinyans-vector-roulette">Pashinyan’s Vector Roulette</h1>
<p>&ldquo;What’s our vector, Victor?&rdquo;</p>
<h2 id="the-western-vector">The Western Vector</h2>
<p>First, let’s begin with Armenia-West relations.</p>
<p>Armenia’s Foreign Policy seems like it’s all about attending conferences in the west and hosting European MP’s to tell them about Pashinyan’s Crossroads of Peace. and avoiding important ministerial and summit meetings on the Russian side. Armenian authorities made serious efforts to find any conference in the West that they could attend, so that they’d have an excuse not to attend a CSTO event.</p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan attends “Paris Peace Forum”
<ul>
<li>The only foreign head of state that attended</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armen Grigoryan attends a conference called “The Strategic Future of Armenia” in Brussels
<ul>
<li>Repeats once again that Armenia is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32683128.html">ready</a> to come to Brussels to sign peace treaty with Azerbaijan</li>
<li>Let’s not forget Armen Grigorian in Malta for a Zelensky conference to discuss his plan for the war against Russia. (a couple of weeks ago.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Etc.</li>
</ul>
<p>Following Azerbaijan’s abrupt and dismissive boycott of western mediation in Granada then Brussels, the EU has amped up its language against Azerbaijan. Joseph Borell said that in the case of violation of territorial integrity of Armenia, the EU will review its relationship with Azerbaijan. A little stronger language than guaranteeing ahead of time that they won’t do anything. Germany’s foreign minister Baerbock visited Armenia, and in the past few days the council of foreign ministers of the EU showed <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32683155.html">strong support</a> for Armenia. The EU announced:</p>
<ul>
<li>Increase of monitoring mission (EUMA)</li>
<li>More opportunities for military aid funding</li>
<li>And most important for Armenians: focus on discussions on visa liberalization</li>
</ul>
<p>At the same time, the foreign ministers of the G7 also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32676558.html">expressed</a> “grave concern” and support for Armenia’s territorial integrity.</p>
<p>There was also news that some French weapons shipments are already arriving in Georgia, destined to Armenia. Primarily we read this in Azerbaijani media.</p>
<p>If it wasn’t for the fact that just a few months ago, over 100,000 Armenians from Artsakh were ethnically cleansed, <em>while not a single package of sanctions was applied to Azerbaijan</em>, the news that the EU might help Armenia’s security would be almost believable.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>The EU Monitoring mission was here for half a year now. Maybe they weren’t stationed in Stepanakert but surely they did see 100’s of thousands of people cross the Lachin checkpoint. Did they even acknowledge that what happened was ethnic cleansing? What will increasing the size of this monitoring force do?</li>
<li>How serious is the EU’s commitment to Armenia? In the past EU officials have explicitly stated that they can’t physically protect Armenia. To the best of our knowledge, is there any change in that stance?</li>
<li>How serious is the French supply of weapons to Armenia as a replacement for Russian weapons supplies? How serious is France’s desire to act as a strategic partner for Armenia, and replacing Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-russian-vector">The Russian Vector</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, the Russian vector in Armenian politics remains just as strained as ever. This week Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32683987.html">informed</a> Lukashenko that he would not be attending the CSTO summit. Lukashenko <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/136274">called on</a> Pashinyan to not take rash steps.</p>
<p>Russia has been removing military equipment from Artsakh with the pretext of rotating equipment through repair, and so on. There is a lot of talk about Russian peacekeeping forces downgrading their presence permanently.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Russia closing a chapter on Artsakh?  Do they consider the conflict finished and done?</li>
</ul>
<p>Russia is still talking about controlling a corridor through Armenia. At this point it seems like it’s their last hope to keep a presence in the South Caucasus, so they’re uniquely focused on Point 9 of the November 2020 ceasefire agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>While nobody has rescinded their signature from the agreement, is that document valid still? There is no Lachin corridor, Armenian POWs have not been returned, there are no Armenians in Artsakh, the Nov. 9, 2020 line of contact has been completely disregarded and Azerbaijan has invaded Armenian territory. So points 1 through 8 of the agreement have been completely breached, trashed. What talk can there be of point 9?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan’s Crossroads of Peace, the so-called “Խաղաղության խաչմերուկ”, basically his plan to socialize Point 9 domestically?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="latest-mpg-poll-results">Latest MPG Poll Results</h1>
<p>We should note that these poll results may seem very paradoxal at first glance.</p>
<p>Whether you disagree with the sentiments expressed in this poll, it is important to try to analyze and understand these results and take informed action based on this data.</p>
<h2 id="armenians-rosy-present-and-future">Armenians “Rosy” Present and Future</h2>
<p>Multiple questions in this poll were asked about Armenians’ opinions about the quality of their life today and their hope for the future.</p>
<p>While it can’t be compared with the euphoric atmosphere of 2019, when more than 50% of respondents were satisfied with their lives, this metric of satisfaction with the present hasn’t taken any significant drop from April 2023 results. Similarly, the number of people who think they’ll be better off in the future has risen from 41.7% in 2021 to 49.1% currently.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>The margin of error for this poll is +/-3.5%, but even accounting for that, the current situation is not having any effect on the optimism of Armenians. So first question… How much trust can we place in the objectivity of this pollster?</li>
<li>Are Armenians living in a virtual fantasy world? How is it possible to keep them so optimistic?</li>
<li>How big of an effect are government-controlled media having on the sentiment of the public?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyans-approval-rating">Pashinyan’s Approval Rating</h2>
<p>On the question of “How much do you trust Nikol Pashinyan”:</p>
<ul>
<li>20.4% - very much</li>
<li>13.2% - somewhat</li>
<li>18.6% - somewhat no</li>
<li>35.5% - completely distrust</li>
<li>12.3% - difficult to answer</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s “anti-rating” still seems to be high: 35.5 + 18.6 = **54.1%. **But Pashinyan’s favorable rating has gone up apparently to 20.4 + 13.2 = <strong>33.6%</strong></p>
<p>In <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/262-erdogan-cabinet-azerbaijan-postpones--economy-pashinyan-rating/">May 2023</a>, these numbers were:</p>
<ul>
<li>Favorable: 5.4% + 13.4% = <strong>18.8%</strong></li>
<li>Unfavorable: 24.2% + 47.1% = <strong>71.3%</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>54.1% disapproval is still very high, but Pashinyan’s rating seems to be on an upward trajectory. What factors would you attribute this to?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="most-say-we-should-struggle-for-artsakh">Most Say We Should Struggle For Artsakh</h3>
<p>Despite Armenians’ apparent satisfaction with their lives and relative rosy outlook for the future, when asked about Artsakh, the respondents time and time again give answers that make more sense.</p>
<p>Given the aftermath of the genocide in Artsakh:</p>
<ul>
<li>46.6% say that Armenia should struggle for the independence of Artsakh, securing the return of Artsakh Armenians  to their homeland</li>
<li>40% said that Armenia should integrate Artsakh Armenians in Armenia and ensure their social and other rights are protected</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your thoughts on this question?</li>
<li>Is Armenia doing enough to secure the rights of Artsakhtsis who wish to be integrated into life in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-prisoners">Political Prisoners</h2>
<p>More than half of the respondents said that they believe Armenia has political prisoners.</p>
<p>Specifically:</p>
<ul>
<li>Yes: 52%</li>
<li>No: 23%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 25%</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can this belief that you can go to jail for your beliefs affect how people respond in polls?</li>
<li>Why doesn’t this concern about fundamental freedoms affect the optimism of the people?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="full-results">Full Results</h2>
<h4 id="methodology">Methodology</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-1.webp" alt="Methodology"  title="Methology" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="in-general-are-you-satisfied-with-your-life">In General Are You Satisfied With Your Life?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-2.webp" alt="Satsifaction"  title="Satsifaction" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="how-would-you-evaluate-your-familys-current-materialeconomic-security">How Would You Evaluate Your Family’s Current Material/Economic Security</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-3.webp" alt="Material Economic Security"  title="Material Economic Security" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="in-your-opinion-will-youyour-family-live-better-off-or-worse-after-one-year">In your opinion, will you/your family live better off or worse after one year?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-4.webp" alt="Better off next year?"  title="Better off next year?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="how-do-you-rate-the-activities-of-the-following-institutions">How do you rate the activities of the following institutions?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-5.webp" alt="Institutions"  title="Institutions" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="towards-which-country-or-countries-do-you-think-armenias-integration-vector-should-be-directed">Towards which country or countries do you think Armenia&rsquo;s integration vector should be directed?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-6.webp" alt="Integration Vector"  title="Integration Vector" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

<strong>Multiple answers allowed.</strong></p>
<h4 id="from-which-countries-can-our-country-obtain-military-and-political-help">From which countries can our country obtain military and political help?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-7.webp" alt="Military Help"  title="Military Help" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

<strong>Multiple answers allowed</strong></p>
<h4 id="according-to-you-does-armenia-currently-have-political-prisoners-if-so-name-one">According To You Does Armenia Currently Have Political Prisoners? If so, name one.</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-8.webp" alt="Political Prisoners"  title="Political Prisoners" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="due-to-the-armed-attack-of-azerbaijan-on-september-19-artsakh-was-completely-depopulated-and-more-than-100000-people-were-forcibly-displaced-and-migrated-to-armenia-how-do-you-think-the-republic-of-armenia-should-behave">Due to the armed attack of Azerbaijan on September 19, Artsakh was completely depopulated and more than 100,000 people were forcibly displaced and migrated to Armenia. How do you think the Republic of Armenia should behave?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-9.webp" alt="How to help Artsakh"  title="How to help Artsakh" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="how-much-do-you-trust-ra-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan">How much do you trust RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-10.webp" alt="Trust in Pashinyan"  title="Trust in Pashinyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="according-to-you-in-order-to-solve-the-internal-political-situation-is-it-necessary-to-hold-extraordinary-parliamentary-elections-in-ra">According to you, in order to solve the internal political situation, is it necessary to hold extraordinary parliamentary elections in RA?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-11.webp" alt="Extraordinary Elections"  title="Extraordinary Elections" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>If there were Parliamentary elections next Sunday, which party or bloc would you vote for?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/295/MPG-Gallup-Nov-2023-12.webp" alt="Preferred Party or Bloc"  title="Preferred Party or Bloc" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h1 id="armenian-budget-and-economy">Armenian Budget and Economy</h1>
<p>In the past month, the parliament <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123724.html">passed</a> a national budget for 2024. Key aspects:</p>
<ul>
<li>2,566 billion drams in tax revenues</li>
<li>2,321 billion in expenditures</li>
<li>700 billion in capital expenditures</li>
<li>3.2 billion budget deficit in 2024</li>
<li>The national debt will stand at 5318 billion drams  ($13.3B) = 50.7% GDP</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/136018">Notably</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>755 billion will go to the social sector</li>
<li>555 billion is earmarked for <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123719.html">defense</a>, with a 41% increase in the capital expenditures going to defense</li>
<li>120 billion is capital expenditure earmarked for <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123197.html">roads &amp; infrastructure</a>.</li>
<li>Around 54 billion is <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123109.html">earmarked</a> to support Artsakh refugees. Notably, there is no support for Artsakh as a state. That is not part of the values reflected in this budget</li>
</ul>
<p>Finally, while the economy is hyped to expand somewhere between %<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123180.html">5.5</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123118.html">7</a>%, the Armenian <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32670204.html">industrial</a> and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32557484.html">mining</a> outputs are shrinking. Only re-exporters are <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32523099.html">reportedly</a> doing great, which means that the deep reliance on Russia, and especially the war in Ukraine, remains solidly in place in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>On the surface, the budget numbers look interesting, but the economic information doesn’t seem to support it. Can you help us make sense of it? Is this a good, or realistic budget?</li>
<li>What is your outlook for the Armenian economy in 2024, and why?</li>
</ul>
<p>The reliance on Russia is also a cause for concern, particularly because it seems like Pashinyan is biting the hand that’s feeding his economy. If Russia were to respond economically, for example, tweak the remittances to Armenia; or disrupt the gas supply; or block the re-export vector; or whatever, it would absolutely cripple the Armenian economy and everyday life. Even the latte-snorting expats in central Yerevan might start feeling a pinch!</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>There are some indications that the real-estate market is cooling, as some Russian, Ukrainian migrants who came after the war in Ukraine started, may be leaving. What are your thoughts about this sector of the economy?</li>
<li>Given how heavily the Armenian economy has benefited and expanded and relies on the war in Ukraine, it’s not out of place to ask: What is your view on the state of that conflict? Is there an end in sight? How should Armenia navigate it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Does awareness that there are political prisoners in Armenia, who are in jail simply for their opinions and speech, affect the non-response bias of the polls?
<ul>
<li>A word about Armenia’s political prisoners and judicial harassment.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Hrant</strong>: Political Prisoners and their rising numbers in Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/295/thumbnail-295.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/295/thumbnail-295.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13982167-hrant-mikaelian-armenian-foreign-policy-vectors-mpg-poll-results-economy-and-2024-budget-ep-295-nov-12-2023.mp3" length="49896401" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4155</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Aram Orbelyan - The Confused Status of Artskah Refugees in Armenia and Consequences| Ep 294 - Nov 14, 2023
[EP294]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/294-aram-orbelyan-confused-status-of-artsakh-refugees-in-armenia-consequences/</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:12:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13973128-aram-orbelyan-the-confused-status-of-artsakh-refugees-in-armenia-and-consequences-ep-294-nov-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>294</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Orbelyan - The Confused Status of Artskah Refugees in Armenia and Consequences| Ep 294 - Nov 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 11/14/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What are the different status options?
* Armenian Passport and Citizenship
* What is Authority Code 070, how is it being treated?
* What Hurdles are Artsakhtsis facing in Armenia and Why?
* What is the Armenian Government’s Posture on all this?
* Aliyev’s Deadline and What Armenian Should do about it
* Does the Rome Statute Help?
Episode 294 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What are the different status options?
* Armenian Passport and Citizenship
* What is Authority Code 070, how is it being treated?
* What Hurdles are Artsakhtsis facing in Armenia and Why?
* What is the Armenian Government’s Posture on all this?
* Aliyev’s Deadline and What Armenian Should do about it
* Does the Rome Statute Help?
Episode 294 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What are the different status options?
* Armenian Passport and Citizenship
* What is Authority Code 070, how is it being treated?
* What Hurdles are Artsakhtsis facing in Armenia and Why?
* What is the Armenian Government’s Posture on all this?
* Aliyev’s Deadline and What Armenian Should do about it
* Does the Rome Statute Help?
Episode 294 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="special-protected-status-for-artsakh-refugees">“Special Protected Status for Artsakh Refugees”</h1>
<p>Recently, the Armenian government announced that it would give a “Special Protected” status to refugees from Artsakh. The government says that this is equivalent to a status of a refugee and Artsakhtsis are not considered citizens of Armenia. Those wishing to be recognized as citizens of Armenia and enjoy benefits such as pensions and other government support must apply for citizenship.</p>
<p>This decision has bewildered many refugees from Artsakh who hold blue passports, just like other Armenian citizens, in which it is written that the holder of this passport is a citizen of the Republic of Armenia. The only difference for Artsakh residents is that the authority field in the passport has the code 070.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the differences between these statuses? What is the motivation for recognizing citizens of Artsakh as refugees, instead of citizens of Armenia or Internally DIsplaced People (IDP)?</li>
<li>If Artsakhtsis want to adopt Armenian citizenship, a form has been circulated online which shows that they have to sign a declaration that they’re not a citizen of any other country. What dangers does this form carry?</li>
<li>How did the Armenian government regulate issues such as voting and state service for Armenian citizens who lived in Artsakh?</li>
<li>What happens to the rights of Artsakh citizens, such as right to property, or right of return, if they accept Armenian citizenship?
<ul>
<li>There have been reports in Azerbaijani media that Aliyev has given a deadline after which the property of Artsakhtsis who have not returned will be transferred to the government of Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Will the ratification of the Rome Statute help?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/294/thumbnail-294.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/294/thumbnail-294.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13973128-aram-orbelyan-the-confused-status-of-artsakh-refugees-in-armenia-and-consequences-ep-294-nov-14-2023.mp3" length="1460" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17551583</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aram Orbelyan - The 1991 Alma-Ata Declaration | Ep 293 - Nov 14, 2023
[EP293]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/293-aram-orbelyan-1991-alma-ata-declaration/</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13968065-aram-orbelyan-the-1991-alma-ata-declaration-what-did-armenia-sign-ep-293-november-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>293</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Orbelyan - The 1991 Alma-Ata Declaration | Ep 293 - Nov 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 11/14/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What is the 1991 Alma Ata Declaration?
* What is the CIS Based on?
* About Borders, Treaties, and Declarations
* Armenia’s explicit reservation affecting Artsakh in the Treaty
* Why would Pashinyan ignore the Reservations?
* Territorial Integrity and Use of Force
* What Autonomy was LTP Envisioning?
* Where does 2023 Leave the Cause of Artsakh?
* How should Armenia Pursue it on the International Scene?
Episode 293 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What is the 1991 Alma Ata Declaration?
* What is the CIS Based on?
* About Borders, Treaties, and Declarations
* Armenia’s explicit reservation affecting Artsakh in the Treaty
* Why would Pashinyan ignore the Reservations?
* Territorial Integrity and Use of Force
* What Autonomy was LTP Envisioning?
* Where does 2023 Leave the Cause of Artsakh?
* How should Armenia Pursue it on the International Scene?
Episode 293 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* What is the 1991 Alma Ata Declaration?
* What is the CIS Based on?
* About Borders, Treaties, and Declarations
* Armenia’s explicit reservation affecting Artsakh in the Treaty
* Why would Pashinyan ignore the Reservations?
* Territorial Integrity and Use of Force
* What Autonomy was LTP Envisioning?
* Where does 2023 Leave the Cause of Artsakh?
* How should Armenia Pursue it on the International Scene?
Episode 293 | Recorded: November 13, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-1991-alma-ata-declaration">The 1991 Alma Ata Declaration</h1>
<h2 id="armenia-and-the-1991-alma-ata-protocols">Armenia and the 1991 Alma-Ata Protocols</h2>
<p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma-Ata_Protocol">1991 Alma-Ata</a> <a href="https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/?pdf=CDL(1994)054-e">protocols</a> were the founding documents for the Commonwealth of Independent States, the CIS, and were signed on December 21, 1991. The founding of the CIS then led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union on December 26.</p>
<p>A key argument (or excuse) that Pashinyan throws around as part of his “I didn’t do it” defense in losing Artsakh, is that by signing the 1991 Alma-Ata protocols, Armenia had already recognized Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>There has been a lot of confusion over what has been signed, what hasn’t been signed, what has been ratified, and what has been signed but not ratified by both Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you help us understand what first president Levon Ter-Petrosyan signed on behalf of Armenia in Alma-Ata? And also: what did the legislatures of Armenia and Azerbaijan ratify, and when?</li>
<li>What is considered the legal founding date of the Republic of Armenia? Is it in line with the CIS treat(ies) or is it a different date? Is the difference between these dates relevant to the cause of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p>It has been said that Armenia signed the CIS treaty “with reservations&rsquo;&rsquo;, which included the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) in its agreement. We’ve read that these reservations <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/725757.html">have not been found</a>,</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where are these reservations? Were these remarks made implicitly, or explicitly about the NKAO?</li>
<li>Why would Pashinyan ignore these reservations?</li>
<li>How relevant is the declaration and the subsequent CIS treaties for the adjudication of the Artsakh conflict? Why did Pashinyan agree to use it as a basis?</li>
<li>Ter-Petrosyan <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/special-file/49779/">said</a> at the time that “the autonomies of the Russian Federation would be the kind that would completely satisfy NKAO people”. Was he talking about autonomy inside Azerbaijan, or about an independent or autonomous state member of the CIS?</li>
</ul>
<p>In its 33 years of de facto independence, self-determination and self-government, no state recognized Artsakh as an independent state.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Looking back, should Armenia have recognized Artsakh as a state at some point during the past 3 decades?</li>
<li>Since the complete dispossession of Artsakh in September 2023, where does it leave the cause for an independent Artsakh? How should Armenia pursue it on the international scene?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://www.luys.am/img/artpic/small/e7847e4c093e53db538a%D4%B1%D5%AC%D5%B4%D5%A1%D4%B1%D5%A9%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B0%D5%BC%D5%B9%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%A3%D5%AB%D6%80%D5%A8.pdf">Luys Foundation review</a> of the case - which Aram referred to. (in Armenian)</li>
<li><a href="https://168.am/2023/10/10/1942600.html">Ալմա Աթայի հռչակագիրը և Արցախի տարածքային պատկանելիության հարցը</a> (Declaration of Alma Ata and the issue of territorial belonging to Artsakh)</li>
<li><a href="https://arlis.am">Arlis.am</a> about Armenian reservations, which Aram referred to.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/293/thumbnail-293.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/293/thumbnail-293.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13968065-aram-orbelyan-the-1991-alma-ata-declaration-what-did-armenia-sign-ep-293-november-14-2023.mp3" length="2701" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32446977</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Setrag Balian &amp; Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Patriarchate and Armenian Quarters under Threat by Israeli Investors and Armed Settlers | Ep. 292 - Nov 9, 2023
[EP292]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/292-setrag-balian-hagop-djernazian-jerusalem-patriarchate-armenian-quarters-under-threat-xana-gardens-israeli-settlers/</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2023 00:00:54 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13943449-setrag-balian-hagop-djernazian-jerusalem-patriarchate-and-armenian-quarters-under-threat-by-israeli-investor-and-armed-settlers.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>292</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Setrag Balian &amp; Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Patriarchate and Armenian Quarters under Threat by Israeli Investors and Armed Settlers | Ep. 292 - Nov 9, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - November 9, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Setrag Balian & Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Patriarchate and Armenian Quarters under Threat by Israeli Investors and Armed Settlers
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Setrag Balian](/guest/sbalian)
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Violent Events following Patriarch’s Letter of Cancellation of Lease Agreement on November 1
* Further Issues on November 9
* Are the Lease Agreement and its Cancellation Legal?
* What do Israeli Settlers have to do with the Lease Deal?
* What Next?
Episode 292 | Recorded on Wednesday, November 9 2023</itunes:summary><description>Setrag Balian & Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Patriarchate and Armenian Quarters under Threat by Israeli Investors and Armed Settlers
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Setrag Balian](/guest/sbalian)
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Violent Events following Patriarch’s Letter of Cancellation of Lease Agreement on November 1
* Further Issues on November 9
* Are the Lease Agreement and its Cancellation Legal?
* What do Israeli Settlers have to do with the Lease Deal?
* What Next?
Episode 292 | Recorded on Wednesday, November 9 2023</description><googleplay:description>Setrag Balian & Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Patriarchate and Armenian Quarters under Threat by Israeli Investors and Armed Settlers
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Setrag Balian](/guest/sbalian)
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Violent Events following Patriarch’s Letter of Cancellation of Lease Agreement on November 1
* Further Issues on November 9
* Are the Lease Agreement and its Cancellation Legal?
* What do Israeli Settlers have to do with the Lease Deal?
* What Next?
Episode 292 | Recorded on Wednesday, November 9 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hagop</strong> and <strong>Setrag</strong> are organizers of the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550949422912&amp;mibextid">Save the ArQ</a> movement, set up for the defense of the Armenian Quarters of Jerusalem.</p>
<h2 id="background-a-troubled-lease">Background: A Troubled Lease</h2>
<p>In our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/261">Podcast Episode 261</a> we discussed the contract with which the Jerusalem Patriarchate reportedly granted a 98-year lease for Goveroo Bardez (Cow’s Garden), a considerable amount of space in the Armenian Quarters in Jerusalem, to an Israeli company that is allegedly going to build a hotel there. The company is Xana Gardens Ltd.</p>
<h1 id="armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem-under-threat">Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem under Threat</h1>
<p>Last week Patriarch Manoogian <a href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2023/11/02/armenian-patriarchate-in-jerusalem/">publicly rescinded the lease agreement</a>. He published the Patriarchate’s letter to Xana Gardens that the lease deal was no longer going forward. The next day, Danny Rothman, the owner of Xana Gardens Ltd, the leasing company, showed up with over a dozen armed Israeli settlers, and bulldozers. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=122136095606031647&amp;set=pob.638425135">Events peaked</a> on November 5.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hagop and Setrag, I understand both of you were on site and prevented these people from demolishing Goverou Bardez. Tell us what  happened.</li>
<li>At this moment, it seems like the settlers have left the scene. Can you tell us how the Armenian community is feeling in the aftermath of the threats?
<ul>
<li>Note: the Xana owners and settlers threatened the Armenians that “they would get them all, one by one.”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are people feeling safe?</li>
<li>Is there support from the Israeli police or other security agencies?</li>
</ul>
<p>There were initially some reports that nobody had seen the Patriarch’s letter to Xana Gardens. But many media outlets printed it, The letter is dated November 1, 2023.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>As far as I can tell, the letter was an important step in the life of the lease, but it’s going to be up to Israeli courts to decide the legality of it. Have you consulted your lawyers, and what is the take on the validity of this lease agreement, and the cancellation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="maps-of-the-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem">Maps of the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem</h2>
<p>The following map was provided by Hagop Djernazian.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-1.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem "  title="Map of Jerusalem " class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem</p>
<p>We provide additional maps in our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/261">Podcast Episode 261</a> show notes.</p>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<p>Here are articles from Groong on this topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.newarab.com/news/armenians-jerusalem-repel-armed-israeli-settlers">Armed Israeli settlers attempt to seize Armenian Patriarchate property in Jerusalem&rsquo;s Armenian Quarter</a> - 11/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/palestine-israel/2023/11/08/jerusalem-armenians-in-bitter-fight-to-save-their-land-amid-focus-on-gaza-war/">Jerusalem Armenians in bitter fight to save their land amid focus on Gaza war</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qh26OKb6CI">Jerusalem&rsquo;s Armenians claim Gaza war is shielding a land grab</a> - 11/06/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://en.armradio.am/2023/11/06/a-group-of-israeilis-enter-armenian-quarter-in-jerusalem-claim-ownership/">A group of Israeli extremists enter Armenian Gardens in Jerusalem, claim ownership</a> - 11/06/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/investor-storms-jerusalem-patriarchate-garden-in-defiance-of-real-estate-deal-cancelation/">Investor Storms Jerusalem Patriarchate Garden in Defiance of Real Estate Deal Cancelation</a> - 11/06/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1123604.html">Investor ignores Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem’s cancellation of land deal and starts demolition works</a> - 11/06/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/jerusalem-patriarchate-vows-to-protect-armenian-churchs-interests/">Jerusalem Patriarchate Vows to Protect Armenian Church’s Interests</a> - 05/12/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-109/News/Jordan-Palestine-no-longer-recognize-Armenian-Patriarch-Nourhan-Manougian-28607">Jordan, Palestine no longer recognize Armenian Patriarch Nourhan Manougian</a> - 05/13/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2023/05/24/goverou-bardez-saving-the-oldest-armenian-diaspora-in-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2guMYJdzUMZlqSOGs4mpv3XPzlb7ElDQK3pflCBXd6vEgOn8nUfTOXf4c">Goverou Bardez: Saving the Oldest Armenian Diaspora in the World</a> - 05/24/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.newarab.com/analysis/how-secret-land-sales-threaten-jerusalems-armenian-quarter">Selling Jerusalem: How secret land deals threaten the Armenian Quarter</a> - 05/31/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.shantnews.am/news/view/1313032.html">A Jewish investor is planning to build an elite residential neighborhood in the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem, which will change the demographic picture of the neighborhood</a> - 06/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBizgjKVYwk">Իրավաբանական պատվիրակություն կմեկնի Երուսաղեմ՝ եկեղեցապատկան հողերի մութ գործարքը բացահայտելու համար</a> - 06/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.weeklyblitz.net/opinion/a-contentious-agreement-an-enigmatic-lease-contract-imperils-the-armenian-community-in-jerusalem/">A contentious agreement … An “enigmatic lease contract” imperils the Armenian community in Jerusalem</a> - 06/08/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-jerusalems-old-city-armenian-community-members-fear-eviction-over-land-deal/">In Jerusalem’s Old City, Armenian community members fear eviction over land deal</a> - 06/08/2023</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
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[EP291]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/291-tevan-poghosyan-armenia-crossroads-of-peace-three-plus-three-iran-russia-defense-with-france-artsakh-refugees-shahramanyan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 00:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13892268-tevan-poghosyan-crossroads-of-peace-iran-russia-french-weapons-artsakh-ep-291-october-29-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>291</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan - Crossroads of Peace | Iran | Russia | French Weapons | Artsakh | Ep 291 - October 29, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 10/29/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Crossroads of Peace
* 3+3=5 in Tehran
* Relations with Russia
* Defense Deal with France
* Artsakh Status
Episode 291 | Recorded: October 31, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Crossroads of Peace
* 3+3=5 in Tehran
* Relations with Russia
* Defense Deal with France
* Artsakh Status
Episode 291 | Recorded: October 31, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Crossroads of Peace
* 3+3=5 in Tehran
* Relations with Russia
* Defense Deal with France
* Artsakh Status
Episode 291 | Recorded: October 31, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="crossroads-of-peace">Crossroads of Peace</h2>
<p>This past week Pashinyan attended the Silk Road Forum conference in Tiflis where he unveiled his new plan he calls <a href="https://georgiaonline.ge/economy/56252/armenian-pm-nikol-pashinyan-attends-silk-road-forum/#google_vignette">Crossroads of Peace</a>. While Pashinyan presented, Azerbaijan was represented only at the deputy prime minister level. The plan is based on four principles:</p>
<ol>
<li>Sovereignty over own infrastructure</li>
<li>Border control &amp; security</li>
<li>Dual use infrastructure</li>
<li>Equal access and simplified procedures</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s new with this plan?</li>
<li>Is this just a sugar-coating of the “Zangezur corridor”? A case of Pashinyan socializing Aliyev’s demands?</li>
</ul>
<p>First let’s note how it doesn’t include any hint of Artsakh at all, it’s like it never existed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia doesn’t have a N-S rail link. Whose agenda is served by this project?</li>
<li>Is there an alternative to this configuration of roads that would be more beneficial for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/291/Crossroads-of-Peace-GovAM-20231026.JPG" alt="Crossroads of Peace"  title="Crossroads of Peace" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Fig. 1: Map of the “Crossroads of Peace” <a href="https://twitter.com/armgov/status/1717462377883468082">provided</a> by Government of Armenia</p>
<p>We <a href="https://goachronicle.com/armenia-can-restore-gas-pipelines-from-azerbaijan-deputy-minister/">read</a> this week that the Armenian authorities are already looking past whatever peace they plan to sign, and start buying gas from Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>If there is a need or a lack of gas supply to Armenia, there is a standing and operating gas pipeline with Iran. Why isn’t Armenia talking about gas supplies from Iran?</li>
<li>Is Armenia concerned about losing its supply of Russian gas?</li>
<li>What would be the cost basis of gas from Iran, and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran">Iran</h2>
<p>If you remember, the 3+3 format was pushed by Iran, Russia and Turkey as a means to keep important geopolitical decision making in the region. The first meeting was held in December 2021 in Moscow, so nearly 2 years later, it seems that regional forces are trying to rekindle the project and thus a meeting was held this week in Tehran.</p>
<p>This time, as in the first time, Georgia refused to participate. Yet the remaining players keep calling it “3+3” and pretending Georgia is in it. We’re not aware of any declarations made, and in fact the only thing memorable from this meeting is a photo that shows the group walking and talking. Lavrov and Abdollahian in the back, clearly engaged in a conversation. Similarly, Fidan and Bairamov also engaged in a conversation. The only one out of place seemed to be Ararat Mirzoyan, walking all alone and looking disgruntled. But maybe there’s more to it than meets the eye?</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the 3+3 platform viable?</li>
<li>When this project was initially launched, at the end of 2020, many Armenians were apprehensive of the attempt to push out outside forces from the region. But taking into account the reality that exists today, the war in Ukraine that will affect the region forever, the apparent unwillingness of the West to project power into the region, is it in the interest of Armenia to participate in it? Perhaps to allow Iran to counteract the influence of Azerbaijan and Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h2>
<p>The relations between Russia and Armenia continue to deteriorate. This week each country summoned the other’s ambassador to file complaints about their country.</p>
<p>Pashinyan appears to be rejecting Russia’s offer to mediate so-called “peace treaty” negotiations, and implying that Armenia doesn’t need maps from the Russian general staff. Instead, he suggests that maps exist both in Armenia and Azerbaijan that can help the process.</p>
<p>Meanwhile it’s evident that Aliyev has no further interest in continuing negotiations mediated by the West. He’s more interested in a direct negotiation or maybe mediated by Georgia, who is in a much weaker position than Azerbaijan and so it’s not clear what benefit they can provide as a mediator.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How low can things go?</li>
<li>Where do you see the future of negotiations going?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="french-weapons">French Weapons</h2>
<p>This week, Armenia and France <a href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/10/23/france-announces-sale-of-defensive-weapons-to-armenia_6197013_4.html">signed</a> a MOU on the supply of French weapons to Armenia. The deal includes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Short range air defense systems (SHORAD) of &ldquo;Mistral-type&rdquo;</li>
<li>Three Ground Master 200 (GM200) radar systems from the French defense group Thales</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How realistic is the logistics of this? What country will the weapons be supplied through?
<ul>
<li>Georgia closed its air/land to be used for military supplies to Armenia during the 44 day war. What’s the risk of that happening if war begins again?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How strategic is this investment? So far the quantities seem to be modest.</li>
<li>Armenia and Russia have a joint air defense system (as part of CSTO). How can a western-made system integrate with this?</li>
<li>Will Iran be OK with Western-made radar systems on its border with Armenia?</li>
<li>So overall, how would you rate this? Thumbs up/down?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="status--of-artsakhtsis-in-armenia">Status  of Artsakhtsis in Armenia</h3>
<p>The government of Armenia introduced regulations this week to give those who left Artsakh refugees a “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1122869.html">temporary protected</a>” status:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does this mean? How is it different from refugee status?</li>
<li>Are Artsakhtsis Armenian citizens?</li>
<li>Which one is better, citizen of Armenia or refugee?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="shahramanyan-interview">Shahramanyan Interview</h3>
<p>After a lengthy period of media silence, Artsakh’s last president, Samvel Shahramanyan gave an <a href="https://asbarez.com/artsakh-president-hopes-displaced-residents-will-repatriate/">interview</a> to Artsakh Public TV.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were your overall impressions of his interview?</li>
</ul>
<p>When asked whether he had any hope of guarantees or support, he said that he became confident that they were left alone at the beginning of the attack.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What led the Artsakh authorities to have any doubts about this?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: October 27, 24 years later.</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Do not give up hope.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP290]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/290-levon-zourabian-armenian-national-congress-democracy-and-armenia-negotiations-with-azerbaijan-artsakh-global-conflicts/</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13864887-levon-zourabian-armenian-national-congress-democracy-and-armenia-negotiations-with-azerbaijan-artsakh-global-conflicts-ep-290-oct-29-2023.mp</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>290</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Levon Zourabian - Armenian National Congress | Democracy and Armenia | Negotiations with Azerbaijan | Artsakh | Global Conflicts | Ep 290 - Oct 29, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/29/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian National Congress (ANC)
* Democracy and Armenia
* Azerbaijan-Armenia Negotiations
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 290 | Recorded: October 27, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian National Congress (ANC)
* Democracy and Armenia
* Azerbaijan-Armenia Negotiations
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 290 | Recorded: October 27, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Levon Zourabian](/guest/lzourabian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian National Congress (ANC)
* Democracy and Armenia
* Azerbaijan-Armenia Negotiations
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 290 | Recorded: October 27, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-national-congress">Armenian National Congress</h2>
<p>Mr Zourabian, You are the Vice President of the Armenian National Congress (ANC) <em>Հայ Ազգային Կոնգրես (ՀԱԿ)</em> party.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does the ANC stand for today? What are its philosophies, ideologies and goals?</li>
</ul>
<p>As a young journalist Nikol Pashinyan was allied with the Armenian National Movement (HHSh) circles. As a beginning politician, Pashinyan was a member of the ANC alliance in parliament. Despite parting ways with your political force and forming the “Yelk Alliance,” Pashinyan always had a reputation as a “disciple” of Levon Ter-Petrosyan. Ter-Petrosyan was seen as Pahsinyan’s ideological mentor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did the ANC endorse Pashinyan in 2018, and if so, with what expectations?</li>
<li>At what point did the ANC stop being on board with Pashinyan’s policies and direction?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="democracy-and-armenia">Democracy and Armenia</h2>
<p>Since the government system changed to a parliamentary style, the Armenian citizen no longer elects many of its representatives, from mayors to prime ministers, and so on. And since 2019, the country has been a single party supermajority ruled country. While this supermajority remains in power, there is no way to get anything done that the ruling party doesn’t want, and the opposition can’t stop anything that the ruling party puts in motion.</p>
<p>Opposition groups say that there are over 3 dozen political prisoners in Armenia today. After the 2021 elections, many non-ruling party election winners were harassed, slapped with alleged corruption lawsuits, jailed, or forced into power-sharing compromises, and so on. Yet Pashinyan continues to use the term “democracy” as a symbol of his rule. In his recent 44-minute speech in Strasburg, he mentioned the term democracy 22 times.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In your view, is Armenia today a democratic state?</li>
<li>How would you assess Pashinyan’s term in office since 2018?
<ul>
<li>How is it that Pashinyan has failed at almost everything during his term, including catastrophic war losses, yet remains at the head of the government?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Ter-Petrosyan’s argument for not getting involved in the calls for regime change (post-2020) seems to have been that our fate is settled. We should work with Nikol to force him to do the right thing.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a correct interpretation of LTP’s position?</li>
<li>With hindsight, would you say that we could’ve had a better off with anyone else than Nikol in power? In other words, was LTP’s abstinence from regime change a mistake?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan---armenia-negotiations">Azerbaijan - Armenia Negotiations</h2>
<p>With the depopulation of Artsakh and the forced dispossession of its people, the agreement of Nov. 2020 is all but obsolete. Aliyev has not honored any of his commitments in that agreement; for example, Armenian POWs remain in Baku; the Azeri forces have invaded far beyond the Nov 10 line of contact; Azerbaijan did not keep the Lachin corridor open, etc.; and now there is no Armenian population left to protect for the Russians, and the Russians did not protect the line of contact; we can say that because there were constant shootings and atrocities causing fatalities among Armenian civilians and defense forces since the Statement of November 2020.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there any reason why Armenia should remain a signatory to this agreement?</li>
</ul>
<p>Many unexplainable things have happened since the agreement was signed: the surrender of Lachin &amp; Karvajar regions, the unilateral handing over of mine maps; the unilateral surrender of the Goris-Kapan highway, the complete non-reaction to the invasions of Armenia-proper in May 2021, September 2021, September 2022, and on and on.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were there unrecorded, verbal agreements by Pashinyan that were not publicly disclosed?</li>
<li>Given the current situation, do you think we’re on the brink of another war, in Armenia this time?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<p>We’re all aware of the loss of Artsakh last month, and the dispossession of its people from their homeland of millenia. Over 101,000 people were forcibly evicted in two week’s time at the end of September 2023. And over 45,000 people had already fled after the 44-day war in 2020.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In a recent <a href="https://youtu.be/ToGmuqSgmRA?si=eTzcBnIbK-WRbTtm">interview</a> to news.am, you called Nikol Pashinyan the chief party responsible for the depopulation and loss of Artsakh. Can you elaborate on that?</li>
<li>What are the next steps for the Artsakh leadership?
<ul>
<li>President Samvel Shahramanyan, speaker of parliament Davit Ishkanyan and others, and over 100 thousand refugees are in difficult conditions in Armenia right now.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Should they seek their right of return? Compensation?</li>
<li>Why does Pashinyan refuse to meet with them and formulate next steps together?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-orientation">Geopolitical Orientation</h2>
<p>Ever since Pashinyan came to power, there has been speculation that his policy has been to move Armenia from the Russian sphere of influence. At times, it became really confusing to understand where Armenia was going in its relationship with Russia.</p>
<p>After the war, and especially after the various Azerbaijani invasions into Armenia proper, Pashinyan’s public criticism of Russian policy became more strident. Most recently, in an interview with Armenian Public TV, he stated that Armenia is not trying to change its geopolitical vector. Yet the following day in Strasbourg, at the PACE assembly he criticized Russia for leaving Armenia alone against its enemies. Yesterday in an interview with the WSJ, he <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/armenia-sees-no-advantage-keeping-russian-military-bases-pm-quoted-2023-10-25/">said</a> that he doesn’t see an advantage for Russian bases to remain in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Pashinyan’s ultimate policy as it relates to external geopolitical orientation?</li>
<li>How realistic is the idea that the West can replace Russia as a strategic ally of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="global-conflicts">Global Conflicts</h2>
<h3 id="israel---palestine">Israel - Palestine</h3>
<p>Earlier this month Hamas instigated a fresh round of violence in Israel, which responded disproportionately and now there are thousands dead and injured. More importantly, this conflict is another proxy war in the installation of the incoming world order, which evolves from a post-soviet unipolar world, to a post post-soviet multipolar status.</p>
<p>This conflict has repercussions all the way back to the South Caucasus, because our various neighbors have different relationships with Israel and the Palestinians. Azerbaijan is an ally of Israel, Iran is an enemy of Israel and a staunch supporter of Palestinian rights, and Turkey is a two-faced player of all sides.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What dangers and opportunities do you see for Armenia in this conflict?</li>
<li>How should Armenia navigate through it?</li>
<li>What tools do we have in FP that we are not using?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="war-in-ukraine">War in Ukraine</h3>
<p>While Israel-Hamas is the latest flare-up, the greater and longer-term issues in the global geopolitical rearrangement is still playing out in Ukraine, which is the battleground for a Russia vs. NATO war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your analysis of this war in Ukraine? What is your outlook?</li>
<li>What scenarios arise if Russia &ldquo;wins&rdquo;? Can Russia lose?</li>
<li>What dangers and opportunities do you see for Armenia in this conflict?</li>
<li>How should Armenia navigate through it?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
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[EP289]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/289-aghasi-yenokian-armenian-news-media-azatutyun-fake-news-press-freedom-artsakh-global-conflicts/</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13862598-aghasi-yenokyan-armenian-news-media-azatutyun-fake-news-press-freedom-armenia-artsakh-global-conflicts-ep-289-oct-28-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>289</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aghasi Yenokyan - Armenian News &amp; Media | Azatutyun | Fake News | Press Freedom | Armenia | Artsakh | Global Conflicts | Ep 289 - Oct 28, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/28/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian News & Media Space
    * RFE/RL Azatutyun in the Armenian Media Space
* Fake News
* Freedom of Press
* Politics and Geopolitics of Armenia
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 289 | Recorded: October 26, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian News & Media Space
    * RFE/RL Azatutyun in the Armenian Media Space
* Fake News
* Freedom of Press
* Politics and Geopolitics of Armenia
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 289 | Recorded: October 26, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Aghasi Yenokyan](/guest/ayenokyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian News & Media Space
    * RFE/RL Azatutyun in the Armenian Media Space
* Fake News
* Freedom of Press
* Politics and Geopolitics of Armenia
* Artsakh
* Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine
Episode 289 | Recorded: October 26, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-news--media">Armenian News &amp; Media</h2>
<h3 id="rferl-azatutyun-radio">RFE/RL Azatutyun Radio</h3>
<p>Mr. Yenokyan, you were the head of RFE/RL in Yerevan from 2008 to 2013. During those years, you saw a period of significant political and social transformation. For the first time, you had a generation of adults that was born in an independent Armenia. It was also a time of relative prosperity (compared to the dark and cold days of the 1990s. We also saw a transfer of power between Kocharyan and Sargsyan as well as the events of March 1, 2008.</p>
<p>At present, Azatutyun is the second most popular news and media outlet in the Armenian news space. While it’s not officially part of the US government, it is funded by it and it’s essentially the Voice of America.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe its role in the Armenian information space?</li>
<li>We know that president Sargsyan’s administration <a href="https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08YEREVAN813_a.html">did not love</a> your appointment as the bureau chief, why was that, and how was your relationship with the government of Armenia, during your tenure?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="media-independence">Media Independence</h3>
<p>The USAID has from time to time allocated significant sums for the “support of Armenian Media”. A recent allocation in 2023 was for $17.5 million. That was basically the size of the entire advertising revenue for the industry back in 2016.
NOTE: Based on <a href="https://www.osf.am/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ARMENIAN-MEDIA-ADVERTISING-MARKET_ENG-_2_.pdf?">your own past analysis</a>, in 2016, the entire advertising market size for the first 5 months was about USD 8.3M (so roughly $20M for one year).</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are such sums allocated or spent in support of Armenian media? Where does the money go?
<ul>
<li>How has the Armenian media market size changed over the past 7 years?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Do such funding allocations truly hit their target? Is Armenian news &amp; media measurably better after such allocations?</li>
<li>Do such allocations manipulate the media? How?</li>
</ul>
<p>At a first glance some tendencies, such as predominantly foreign funded media, have not changed. We have Azatutyun, Factor TV, Civilnet, and others who enjoy a more stable source of cash than locally funded media.</p>
<p>But here’s a real life situation: Foreign funded journalists get a much higher salary. They also get to travel to foreign countries for work and other benefits. Thus, they are much more incentivized to represent the viewpoints of their sponsors better than lowered cal journalists.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What effect does this disparity of funding between foreign and local media have on media independence and quality in Armenia, both perceived and actual?</li>
<li>How would you assess the state of the media in Armenia today?</li>
<li>Since you currently live in the US, have you had a chance to compare media independence in the US with Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="fake-news-in-armenia">Fake News in Armenia</h3>
<p>Nowadays, Armenia has a relatively new phenomenon to deal with. <strong>Overtly fake news</strong>, without any attempt to hide behind a legitimate news company.</p>
<p>You have <a href="https://mediaadvocate.am/en/2019/04/05/the-authorities-express-their-wish-to-establish-monopoly-in-the-field-of-fakes-and-dissemination-of-misinformation-aghasi-yenokyan/">spoken</a> about fake news in the past. But in the past few years it’s gotten infinitely worse, and with the technology that is coming online, the world we’re leaving to our next generation is likely to be an order of magnitude more confusing.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts on low-quality outlets like Perfect TV and a throng of mostly fake news media sites bombarding the Armenian public?
<ul>
<li>What purpose are they serving?</li>
<li>How are they funded, and by whom?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="freedom-of-press">Freedom of Press</h3>
<p>There are constant government attempts on freedom of press and journalism in Armenia. Sometimes there are bills in the parliament, sometimes they become law, or they cause a lot of consternation and then go away. The most notorious example is probably when the Pashinyan government criminalized “insults”, and then decriminalized it again. Yet, Armenia’s international media freedom rankings didn’t suffer much. At the same time, Pashinyan has <a href="https://youtu.be/l1mzdS21FlI?si=h9uVFED79MoLpuBw">said</a> in the past:</p>
<pre><code>_“I want to emphasize once again that in the history of the Third Republic, the press has never been freer than today”._
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you assess the current state of press freedom in Armenia? Is Pashinyan’s statement correct?</li>
<li>How would you describe the attitude of the Pashinyan government towards the media?</li>
<li>Do you believe that various “freedom” indices, such as ones put out by Freedom House, are primarily guided by legitimate interests and therefore portray an accurate picture of the reality, or are they gamed and manipulated based on geopolitical interests?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia">Armenia</h2>
<h4 id="2018-regime-change">2018 Regime Change</h4>
<p>We’re all aware of the changes that Pashinyan brought to Armenia in 2018.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Were you supportive of the so-called “velvet revolution”, and what were your expectations?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="democracy">Democracy</h4>
<p>In 2018 you had <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenian_analyst_says_reforms_will_make_government_in_yerevan_revise_its_membership_in_russia_led_bl/">predicted</a> that Pashinyan first had to address a large number of domestic issues, and after that he would initiate a change in foreign policy direction:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In some ways, you were right. But have the changes proceeded according to your expectations?</li>
<li>Do we have a democratic state today?
<ul>
<li>How is it that Pashinyan still remains at the head of the government after multiple horrible war losses and foreign policy failures?</li>
<li>Do you expect any changes in government in Armenia any time soon?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is democracy even possible in a region where the major players are autocracies or dictatorships?</li>
<li>What are your thoughts about the level of sophistication and media literacy of the Armenian public?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<p>We’re all aware of the loss of Artsakh last month, and the dispossession of the people of Artsakh from their homeland of millenia. Over 101,000 people were forcibly evicted in two week’s time at the end of September 2023.</p>
<p>Given the current situation in Armenia with the leadership of Artsakh, for example president Samvel Shahramanyan, speaker of parliament Davit Ishkanyan and others, and over 100 thousand refugees in difficult conditions:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the best next steps for the Artsakh leadership?</li>
<li>Should they seek their right of return? Compensation?</li>
<li>Why doesn’t Pashinyan meet with them to figure out next steps together?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="global-conflicts---israel-ukraine">Global Conflicts - Israel, Ukraine</h2>
<p>Earlier this month a very significant crisis flared up in Israel, thousands are dead and injured without an end in sight at present. A greater and more immediate conflict is still playing out in Ukraine, which is a battleground for a war between Russia and NATO.</p>
<p>Importantly, both of these conflicts have repercussions all the way back to the South Caucasus and Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What dangers and opportunities do you see for Armenia in these crises?</li>
<li>How should Armenia navigate through them?</li>
<li>What tools do we have in FP that we are not using?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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[EP288]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/288-yeghia-tashjian-artsakh-ethnic-cleansing-aftermath-israeli-palestinian-crisis-armenia/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2023 00:15:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13826842-yeghia-tashjian-aftermath-of-artsakh-ethnic-cleansing-israeli-palestinian-crisis-ripples-effects-to-the-south-caucasus-ep-288-oct-22-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>288</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian - Aftermath of the Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh | Israeli-Palestinian Crisis &amp; Ripples | Ep. 288 - Oct 22, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Oct 22, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Aftermath of the Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh
* Shahramanyan meets Protesters
* “Rights & Security”
    * Government-in-Exile
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Ripple Effects to the South Caucasus
* Effects in the Middle East
* Lebanon & the Armenian Community


Episode 288 | Recorded: October 22, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Aftermath of the Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh
* Shahramanyan meets Protesters
* “Rights & Security”
    * Government-in-Exile
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Ripple Effects to the South Caucasus
* Effects in the Middle East
* Lebanon & the Armenian Community


Episode 288 | Recorded: October 22, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Aftermath of the Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh
* Shahramanyan meets Protesters
* “Rights & Security”
    * Government-in-Exile
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Ripple Effects to the South Caucasus
* Effects in the Middle East
* Lebanon & the Armenian Community


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<h2 id="aftermath-of-the-ethnic-cleansing-of-artsakh">Aftermath of the Ethnic Cleansing of Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="shahramanyan-meets-protesters">Shahramanyan Meets Protesters</h3>
<p>During this past week the president of Artsakh, Samvel Shahramanyan, met with a large group of protesters in a <a href="https://168.am/2023/10/20/1946839.html">public meeting</a> to address the rising frustration of not only his refugee people in Armenia, but also Armenian citizens. People have a lot of questions, ranging from the social status of over 101,000 people who fled from Artsakh to Armenia, to their right of return, and concerns about the political future of the Artsakh Republic.</p>
<p>There are a lot of questions on why a certain group of Artsakhtsis are demanding this from the former government of Artsakh whose funds have been frozen by Yerevan, but that’s besides the point for now.</p>
<p>Shahramanyan did not give a lot of answers, just promised that he would answer them publicly in the near future. One key <a href="https://168.am/2023/10/20/1946811.html">statement</a> that he made caught our eye: he said:</p>
<pre><code>_&quot;I have a lot to tell you, but what I have to say contains great dangers for the future fate of both Armenia and Artsakh. We are all in a very difficult situation, we are in an extremely difficult situation.”_
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What dangers is Sahramanyan referring to? This is apparently a danger that continues to exist, and from the context of his response, it endangers not only Artsakh, but also all of Armenia. What is he talking about?</li>
<li>Is the Armenian government, Pashinyan on down, stonewalling Artsakh’s leadership? It appears that Pashinyan has not been willing to meet with Shahramanyan, do you think this is part of the stipulation from Azerbaijan, that any legitimization of the state of Artsakh might be construed as a provocation, or even an act of war against Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>There were questions about the legality of Sharamanyan signing the dissolution of the state of Artsakh, although he replied that the Artsakh republic IS NOT dissolved. As far as we know, the documents that he signed, we must assume <strong>under extreme duress</strong>, have not been seen publicly.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Samvel Babayan, who was the head of the <strong>United Fatherland</strong> party of Artsakh, and a lot of other things, is <a href="https://168.am/2023/10/20/1947172.html">furious at the dissolution</a> and wants heads to roll. He’d like to know what was signed, if it was signed under duress or threat, and to convene the Artsakh parliament and court to decide the legality of the act, and take action before January 1, the reported date of the dissolution of the state.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What did Shahramanyan sign?</li>
<li>Could whatever he signed under threat of force, be legal in any international form?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="rights-and-security">“Rights and Security”</h3>
<p>World governments say that Artsakhtsis’ right of return must be guaranteed. Carey Cavanaugh, former US co-chair for the OSCE Minsk Group, recently <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/783978.html">said</a> that the Artsakh conflict will not be over even if the entire population flees to Armenia. We’ve also heard both from Russia and the US saying that this conflict is not over. Not to mention every analyst whom we’ve talked with since the depopulation of Artsakh, in September.</p>
<p>So while Aliyev was <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-aliyev-flag-karabakh/32638296.html">raising the Azeri flag in Stepanakert</a> last weekend and telling everyone that he has resolved the Artsakh conflict, we’re trying to understand how the major powers don’t see this conflict as resolved.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain these conflicting perspectives?</li>
<li>Does Armenia’s perspective matter at all?</li>
<li>Are statements from EU leaders (among others) that the rights of Artsakhtsis to return must be guaranteed, just by themselves, sufficient? No threat of sanctions. No acknowledgment of ethnic cleansing. Just blanket statements.</li>
<li>Do you see Artsakhtsis returning to their homeland in Artsakh? Under what circumstances?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="government-in-exile">Government-in-Exile</h3>
<p>There is talk that Artsakh should form a government in exile. There are various aspects to this. Some argue that a full government in exile with all its institutions should be created, while others argue for a minimalist structure.</p>
<p>At the same time, there seems to be a struggle for control over the voice of Artsakhtsis in exile, with one camp represented by Samvel Babayan, and backed by Nikol Pashinyan allies, who claims he’s leading his own negotiations with Baku; the other camp is supported by the Armenian opposition, which congratulated Shahramanyan’s election as president.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What legal steps (if any) should Artsakh leaders take?</li>
<li>Would Armenian authorities allow an Artsakh government-in-exile in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>There are already <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/Ewc3TishBQc?si=5m-vB4u5AFlFo9Z6">calls</a> by Pashinyan-allied personalities for Armenian authorities to prevent the formation of a government in exile since it may give pretense for further Azerbaijani aggression.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israeli-palestinian-conflict">Israeli-Palestinian Conflict</h2>
<p>Let’s turn our attention to the crisis in Israel and Gaza, because this has implications all the way to the South Caucasus. You wrote about this in an <a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2023/10/18/how-the-military-escalation-in-gaza-could-impact-the-south-caucasus/">insightful article</a> in the Armenian Weekly, Hairenik.</p>
<h3 id="raging-conflict">Raging Conflict</h3>
<p>The Palestinian cause has been a pivotal issue since the second world war and a source of intractable problems both regionally in the Middle East, as well as globally. In many ways, we Armenians see a lot of parallels in their cause with ours. But in the past few years the Palestinian Cause had all but disappeared from the agenda of the Middle East, and it wasn’t until October 7 that it all spilled out in great violence and brutality. Thousands of civilians have died, and the sides are deeply entrenched in war and dehumanization rhetoric, and it just feels like we’re on the verge of a terrible ethnic cleansing in Gaza.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the causes for this recent ignition of all-out violence? What triggered this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="projected-maps-of-international-trade-corridors">Projected Maps of International Trade Corridors</h3>
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Fig: 1: Map of International North-South Trade Corridor (INSTC), Source: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/upxk8z/indias_international_northsouth_transport/">Reddit/r/MapPorn</a></p>
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Fig: 3: Map of China’s Belt and Road Initiative, Source: <a href="https://www.clingendael.org/publication/new-map-belt-and-road-initiative">Clingendael</a></p>
<h3 id="rippling-back-to-the-south-caucasus">Rippling back to the South Caucasus</h3>
<p>All the major South Caucasus powers, Russia, Iran and Turkey have issued warnings to Netanyahu to not invade or ethnically cleanse Gaza. Meanwhile, Israel is Azerbaijan’s key military partner, providing it with sophisticated weaponry that is used against Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Iran’s FM went to Syria and Lebanon last week, as the conflict spread. What were Iran’s main objectives for his visit?</li>
<li>Turkey has serious military ties with Israel, so when Erdogan makes pro-Palestinian statements, to me they sound hollow and mostly theatre for Arab consumption. What are Turkey’s objectives in this crisis?</li>
<li>What  are Russia’s key concerns in this crisis? In your article, you note Russia’s interests in controlling East-West as well as North-South trade corridors, and funny enough - they pass through Armenia, more specifically Syunik, or Azerbaijan’s so-called “Zangezur Corridor”. Can you explain this convergence of interests?</li>
<li>What are the dangers, and maybe even the opportunities, that a prolonged Israel-Gaza conflict presents for Armenia?</li>
<li>Why is Georgia able to look after its interests and navigate global balance, and not Armenia?</li>
<li>The South Caucasus seems to be heating up still. How can Armenia leverage the global situation to reach a balance?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="effects-in-the-middle-east">Effects in the Middle East</h3>
<p>In the past few years various Arab countries have been negotiating and signing bilateral agreements with Israel, without even the mention of the Palestinian cause. For example, the Abraham accord agreements by the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and more importantly the current so-called “Normalization” negotiations between Saudi Arabia and-Israel.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do these various agreements that marginalize the Palestinian cause provide a context for the current crisis?</li>
<li>A few months ago Saudi Arabia also signaled a surprise thaw with Iran, mediated by China. How does that agreement shift the balance of power in the middle east?</li>
</ul>
<p>Some observers say that Hamas has already achieved many objectives: the Palestinian cause is back on every Arab country’s agenda for the Middle East again; Saudi Arabia has paused negotiations with Israel; and the Israeli aura of invincibility has been deeply tarnished.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this provide any grounds for the Palestinian side to seek an end to the crisis?</li>
<li>The Netanyahu government’s rhetoric has been very extreme, using the kind of language that precedes genocides. So they are in, very deep. Are they interested in seeking a way out of this crisis? At least a face-saving way?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lebanon-and-the-armenian-community">Lebanon and the Armenian Community</h3>
<p>The Israeli-Gaza conflict has already spread to the border of Israel and Lebanon, as well as Syria. There are reported Israeli air raids on Damascus and Aleppo, and also into South Lebanon.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the crisis affecting you, and the Armenian community regionally at present?</li>
<li>What are Lebanon’s plans to confront an expanding crisis on its border?
<ul>
<li>Is the Lebanese Army capable of defending the border and protecting their citizens?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Grotesque Pashinyan address at the PACE.</li>
<li><strong>Yeghia</strong>: “<strong>All She Knows</strong>” book signing at AUB.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>287</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ehsan Movahedian - Iran in the New World Order | Relations with the Middle East, Armenia, Azerbaijan and more | Ep 287 - Oct 21, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/21/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* Iran in an Evolving World Order
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Azerbaijani-Iranian Relations
* Vision for a Better Future
Episode 287 | Recorded: October 20, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* Iran in an Evolving World Order
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Azerbaijani-Iranian Relations
* Vision for a Better Future
Episode 287 | Recorded: October 20, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Dr. Ehsan Movahedian](/guest/emovahedian)
#### Topics:
* Iran in an Evolving World Order
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Azerbaijani-Iranian Relations
* Vision for a Better Future
Episode 287 | Recorded: October 20, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="global-multipolarity-shifts">Global Multipolarity Shifts</h2>
<p>Many experts are calling the current period of turmoil and upheaval in the world, to be the ending of the post-Soviet era, and the world reordering from a unipolar one, back to a multipolar order, especially with the emergence of China and India and their increasingly assertive and dominant presence on the world stage.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are the regional and global geopolitical shifts changing Iran’s relations with the world, as well as its region?</li>
</ul>
<p>A few months ago there was the surprise revelation of a thaw in Saudi-Iranian relations, under Chinese auspices. This caught most of the West by surprise.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Should we view this shift within the context of Iran’s global realignments? How does Iran see its strategy evolving in the Middle East and also towards Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israeli-palestinian-conflict">Israeli-Palestinian Conflict</h2>
<p>Probably the biggest foreign policy headache for Iran right now is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.</p>
<p>For decades Iran has championed the rights of the Palestinians to become a state, and be represented in the United Nations. But in the past few years the Palestinian Cause had all but disappeared from the agenda of the Middle East.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were the causes for this recent ignition of the all-out hostilities in Israel? It seems like it caught even the intelligence community by surprise and exploded out of nowhere.</li>
<li>Iran’s FM went to Syria and Lebanon last week, as the conflict spread. What were Iran’s main objectives for his visit?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past few years various Arab countries have been negotiating and signing bilateral agreements with Israel, without even the mention of the Palestinian cause. Prime ongoing example being the US-promoted Saudi Arabian-Israeli so-called “Normalization”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does the current conflict affect these negotiations or agreements?</li>
<li>Is Iran supportive of such agreements?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-iranian-relations">Armenian Iranian Relations</h2>
<h3 id="irans-reaction-to-44-day-war-outcome">Iran’s Reaction to 44-Day War Outcome</h3>
<p>The Armenian defeat in the 44-day war in Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh) in 2020 seems to have shifted Iran’s foreign policy towards the South Caucasus from a long term, passive mode, to an increasingly active state of affairs. Prior to 2020, for almost 3 decades, Iran had enjoyed a quiet and peaceful border with Armenia and Artsakh.</p>
<p>Such peace is fundamentally based on trust.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the source of trust between Iran, Armenia, and Artsakh?</li>
<li>Was Iran unprepared for an Armenian defeat in 2020? Was such an outcome not planned for in Iran’s scenarios of regional crises?</li>
<li>How do the consequences of the 44-day war matter for Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="position-on-artsakh">Position on Artsakh</h3>
<p>As we know of course, three years after the 44-day war, Aliyev’s and Pashinyan’s policies have led to the catastrophic ethnic cleansing of Artsakh from its indigenous Armenian population.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you summarize, or characterize, Iran’s policy towards Artsakh, from the times when there was a de facto government there, through the war in 2020?</li>
<li>How concerned is Iran that Israel is leveraging its alliance with Azerbaijan, to install itself right on its borders?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-pivot-to-the-west">Armenia’s Pivot to The West?</h3>
<p>The current policy of the Armenian government appears to be shifting away from a partnership with Russia towards a deeper integration with the EU and the West. Most recently in Strasbourg, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/foreign-visits/item/2023/10/16/Nikol-Pashinyan-visiting-Strasbourg./">said</a>: “The Republic of Armenia is ready to be closer to the European Union, as much as the European Union considers it possible.” <br>
<br>
Armenia has also invited European observers to monitor the border with Azerbaijan, claiming this as an important part of its efforts to secure peace with Azerbaijan. Russia views the Armenian government’s so-called “peace agenda” with suspicion. Iran has also previously issued statements that only regional countries should be involved in solving regional geopolitical problems?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How does Iran perceive Armenia’s potential pivot to the west, as perhaps manifested through the presence of EU monitors in Armenia?</li>
<li>Iran has made multiple proposals to Armenia, to jointly secure its Syunik region. Armenia doesn’t seem to be taking the extended hand. How is this received in Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="irans-red-lines">Iran’s Red Lines</h3>
<p>Azerbaijan and Turkey have repeatedly indicated that they want to change the borders in the South Caucasus, by force, if necessary, to their advantage. While Russia has made some statements that it disagrees with border changes and says the right things about Armenia’s sovereign territory, everyone knows that it has been Iran’s very powerful and repeated messaging, that encroaching on Armenia’s borders will cross Iran’s “Red Lines”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the key Iranian national interests in the South Caucasus in general?</li>
<li>What do Iran’s “Red Lines” mean? Does it mean Iran will engage militarily? Under what circumstances?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="soft-power">Soft Power</h3>
<p>Just this past February, Iran stated that it’s <a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/197654/Iran-targets-3-b-trade-with-Armenia-TPOI-head">targeting</a> bilateral trade with Armenia at the level of $3 billion per year. It went up sharply in 2022, but it’s still under half a billion a year.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>It’s been over 30 years since Armenia’s independence and Armenia as part of the EAEU represents a large market for Iranian products. Why aren’t the two neighbors trading in the many billions already? What are the stoppers?</li>
<li>What can be done to increase economic ties between Iran and Armenia? What major hurdles should be removed?</li>
<li>What about other communications, such as the electricity grid, energy pipelines?</li>
<li>In the early 2000s Russia sought to narrow the diameter of the gas pipeline between Iran and Armenia out of concern that this could then be exported to Europe and compete with Russia. Do such concerns remain current among Russian policymakers?</li>
</ul>
<p>Especially after the war in Ukraine, Russia is very much interested in communication lines that avoid the Black Sea. For some Russian policy makers, the Ashtara-Rasht-Qazvin railway project (part of the International North–South Transport Corridor) is of strategic importance. Iran also seems to be very cooperative with Russia on INSTC and other regional projects. However, all the primary communication routes for these regional projects seem to bypass Armenia. For instance, it seems there is little financial incentive or geopolitical interest to fund new rail corridors that would connect Iran to Russia and Europe, avoiding Turkey or Azerbaijan, and specifically going through Armenia and Georgia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Has Iran reconciled with the current reality that to connect with Russia it must go through Baku, especially when it comes to rail, or is it purely economically driven?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijani-iranian-relations">Azerbaijani Iranian Relations</h2>
<p>Despite all superficial statements by both Iran and Azerbaijan, there is deep distrust between the two countries.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the fundamental causes for this distrust?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are millions of ethnic Azeris in the north of Iran. Provocatively, Ilham Aliyev has started calling these lands South Azerbaijan, and the people South Azerbaijanis.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where is this headed?</li>
<li>How do ethnic Azerbaijanis in Iran feel towards independent Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="vision-for-a-better-future">Vision for a Better Future</h2>
<p>Given its resources, Iran should be a major and wealthy power. But ever since the revolution in 1979, Iran has lived under one regime of “western sanctions” or another.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>From Iran’s perspective, what are the reasons for this, and what is Iran’s strategy for exiting this lifestyle of western sanctions?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/287/thumbnail-287.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/287/thumbnail-287.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13818662-ehsan-movahedian-iran-in-the-new-world-order-relations-with-the-middle-east-armenia-azerbaijan-and-more-ep-287-oct-21-2023.mp3" length="44889470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3737</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - At the Brink of a New War? | Armenia Russia Relations | Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs Moscow | Yerevan Mayor | Ep 286, Oct 15, 2023
[EP286]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/286-benyamin-poghosyan-new-war-relations-with-russia-artsakh-conflict-negotiation-platforms/</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13800000-benyamin-poghosyan-at-the-brink-of-a-new-war-armenia-russia-relations-platform-shuffle-brussels-vs-moscow-yerevan-mayor-ep-286-oct-15-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>286</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - At the Brink of a New War? | Armenia Russia Relations | Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs Moscow | Yerevan Mayor | Ep 286, Oct 15, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - October 15, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* At the Brink of a New War?
* Relations with Russia
* Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs. Moscow
* Update on Yerevan Mayor
Episode 286 | Recorded: October 17, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* At the Brink of a New War?
* Relations with Russia
* Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs. Moscow
* Update on Yerevan Mayor
Episode 286 | Recorded: October 17, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* At the Brink of a New War?
* Relations with Russia
* Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs. Moscow
* Update on Yerevan Mayor
Episode 286 | Recorded: October 17, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="at-the-brink-of-new-war">At The Brink of New War?</h2>
<p>There is a variety of troubling news, mostly in western sources, of an impending new war being planned by Azerbaijan. A risk that we cannot exclude and must consider.</p>
<p>The major news pieces confirming this are:</p>
<ul>
<li>On Monday, October 9, Armenia’s ambassador to the EU, Tigran Balayan, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32629979.html">warned</a> of an “imminent” attack by Azerbaijan unless the collective west takes action</li>
<li>The on Friday (October 13), Politico.eu, citing two people familiar with the matter, informed that Blinken had <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/13/blinken-warned-lawmakers-azerbaijan-may-invade-armenia-in-coming-weeks-00121500">warned</a> a group of lawmakers that Azerbaijan may attack Armenia in the coming weeks in order to physically take the so-called “Zangezur corridor”
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32639245.html">Azatutyun</a>,  <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121999.html">Armenpress</a> and <a href="https://168.am/2023/10/15/1944676.html">168.am</a> carried the State Department’s denial of this news. Initially the State Department gave a very <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121967/">political response</a> to the query, but Politico stood by its reporting.</li>
<li>When the Iranian Foreign Ministry was asked about the Politico report, they <a href="https://alphanews.am/en/azerbaijan-must-answer-this-question-irans-foreign-ministry-on-azerbaijans-possible-attack-on-armenia/">responded</a>: “‘Azerbaijan must answer this question”</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Just today, Oct 17, in a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkGn_5P_mU&amp;t=951s">speech</a> in the European Parliament, Pashinyan made references to undisclosed “experts” that Azerbaijan does not recognize the territorial integrity of Armenia, which according to him consists of 29.8K sq. km., in order to prepare the grounds for military aggression.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How likely is such a scenario, and with what objectives?</li>
<li>How likely is support from Russia or Iran to come to Armenia?</li>
<li>If anything the West has explicitly told Armenia they would not physically defend t, so what hopes do we have from the West? When has the “collective west” intervened?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h2>
<p>This week, Vahagn Khachaturyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121976.html">signed</a> the ratification of the Rome Statute, something Russia repeatedly warned they would view as an extremely unfriendly gesture.  <br>
Armenia as we said also snubbed Russia and the CSTO by not attending the CSTO meetings in Bishkek. This follows months of consistent anti-Russian activity including a visit by Pashinyan’s wife to Ukraine (and the town of Bucha), Nikol Pashinyan himself visited Ukraine and met with Zelensky, he even met with Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya an opposition leader in Belarus who challenges Lukashenko’s role as winner of elections.</p>
<p>Putin on the other hand has been very circumspect and conciliatory in his words towards Armenia. Both at the Valdai Club, and also in Bishkek, Putin at least in words said that he understands that Armenia is coping with large humanitarian problems right now. He also once again repeated that he doesn’t believe Pashinyan came to power in order to hand away Artsakh.</p>
<p>Of course, in those same events Putin also repeated that the principal determinant of the fate of Artsakh was Pashinyan’s own recognition. Also, most other leaders of Russia and Russian media criticize Pashinyan as an untrustworthy ally who is trying to leave Russia’s orbit.</p>
<p>Earlier last week, Pashinyan lowered his anti-Russian rhetoric and said Armenia is neither leaving the CSTO, nor asking Russia to pull out of Armenia. But today, in the European Parliament, he again blamed the Russia-led CSTO for leaving Armenia “all alone” after Azerbaijan attacked Armenia several times after the 2020 war. He also accused Russia of trying to interfere in Armenia’s internal affairs in the 2021 parliamentary elections by trying to replace him and install a “puppet government”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the dynamics driving this relationship and this dialog?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="platform-shuffle-brussels-vs-moscow">Platform Shuffle: Brussels vs Moscow</h2>
<p>Competition is heating up again between Brussels and Moscow regarding which venue will be the location of the so-called &ldquo;peace treaty&rdquo;.</p>
<p>In Grenada, Pashinyan signed a <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/10/05/statement-by-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan-of-armenia-president-michel-of-the-european-council-president-macron-of-france-and-chancellor-scholz-of-germany/">statement</a> recognizing Artsakh as Azerbaijan, while Aliyev refused to attend. Even this unilateral gesture by Pashinyan, which was demanded by Aliyev, was not enough for the latter who mocked Pashinyan, Charles Michel, Olaf Scholz, and Emmanuel Macron for holding a meeting where they discussed Azerbaijan without him.</p>
<p>After Grenada, Russia offered to mediate at all levels; foreign ministerial, as well as the executive, in Bishkek last week. Pashinyan did not attend, nor did he join remotely. His foreign minister did not attend either.</p>
<p>Aliyev exploited this masterfully by <a href="https://twitter.com/404Intel/status/1713887698207854990">asking</a> why Armenia is rejecting mediation of Russia which is closer to both Azerbaijan and Armenia, while traveling great distances to seek mediation of Europe and declaring that Armenia does not want peace. Obviously, this is very cynical coming from someone who just finished a tour of ghost towns in occupied Artsakh, while walking on Artsakh flags in military uniform, but that’s beside the point.</p>
<p>Aliyev further <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-aliyev-armenia-talks-georgia-karabakh/32628325.html">said</a> that as an alternative to negotiations in a format mediated by Russia, they would be willing to negotiate with Armenia directly in Georgia.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Armenian officials again pinned hopes on an upcoming meeting in Brussels at the end of October, the status of which has not yet been confirmed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan, in Aliyev’s absence in Grenada, had a golden opportunity to get some pro-Armenian statements from EU leaders. Yet there was no mention that what happened in Artsakh was ethnic cleansing.
<ul>
<li>Why? How would you evaluate the statement signed in Grenada?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan said that if Aliyev recognizes Armenia’s territory of 29.8K sq km, then they will have agreement on 70% of the “peace treaty” under negotiation”. What are other major points of contention?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="update-on-yerevan-elections">Update on Yerevan Elections</h2>
<p>A week ago, Tigran Avinyan was elected as mayor of Yerevan. His party garnered 32% of the vote, which in itself was the result of a 28% voter turnout. Yet, somehow last week the Yervean city council elected Avinyan as mayor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you summarize how this happened? I thought Avinyan did not have the votes to get elected?</li>
<li>Where does this leave Marutyan, and Tevanyan, as the opposition groups?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Aliyev in Stepanakert was a terrible day. But remember that we survived 1915, and keep your chin up.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Yes, but… for Artsakhtsis it was terrible and it means nothing to them that it wasn’t as bad as The Genocide.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/286/thumbnail-286.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/286/thumbnail-286.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13800000-benyamin-poghosyan-at-the-brink-of-a-new-war-armenia-russia-relations-platform-shuffle-brussels-vs-moscow-yerevan-mayor-ep-286-oct-15-2023.mp3" length="42524278" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3541</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Aram Orbelyan - Genocide &amp; Consequences | Refugees | Legal Status | Artsakh Government in Exile | Ep 285 - Oct 13, 2023
[EP285]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/285-aram-orbelyan-genocide-karabakh-pows-leader-refugees-legal-status-1991-alma-ata-declaration/</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13772663-aram-orbelyan-genocide-consequences-artsakh-leadership-government-in-exile-ep-285-october-13-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>285</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Orbelyan - Genocide &amp; Consequences | Refugees | Legal Status | Artsakh Government in Exile | Ep 285 - Oct 13, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/13/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* Genocide & Consequences
* Legal Status of Former Artsakh Leadership
* Artsakh Government in Exile
Episode 285 | Recorded: October 11, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* Genocide & Consequences
* Legal Status of Former Artsakh Leadership
* Artsakh Government in Exile
Episode 285 | Recorded: October 11, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan)
#### Topics:
* Genocide & Consequences
* Legal Status of Former Artsakh Leadership
* Artsakh Government in Exile
Episode 285 | Recorded: October 11, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="genocide--consequences">Genocide &amp; Consequences</h2>
<p>By all accounts, what transpired in Artsakh at the end of September 2023 is a genocide, and in fact we Armenians would put this in the context of over 130 years of massacres and genocides and dispossessions of our people from our lands.</p>
<p>The founding and lead ICC prosecutor, Luis Moreno Ocampo, <a href="https://luismorenoocampo.com/lmo_en/report-armenia/">spoke</a> on this issue, Genocide Watch <a href="https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/genocide-and-forced-deportation-nagorno-karabakh">spoke</a> on it, and the Lemkin Institute flat out <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1120877.html">blamed the US of bothsidism</a> and hypocrisy in not preventing the Genocide in Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can be the legal consequences of these internationally important assertions?</li>
<li>Can Armenia sue Azerbaijan, Turkey, the US, Russia, or the EU for reparations on this current disaster in Artsakh?</li>
<li>What does having a legal case mean in a world where might makes right?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="legal-status-of-former-artsakh-presidents">Legal Status of Former Artsakh Presidents</h2>
<p>Armenia has tens or hundreds of POWs, depending on which reports one considers. Some of the most recent POWs are the former Artsakh leaders, and Azerbaijan has domestic charges against them, such as terrorism, etc.</p>
<p>There are reports that all former Artsakh presidents were together when they were arrested by Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What internationally legal basis does Azerbaijan have for any domestic charges against the leaders of a state, even an unrecognized state, when this state was never de jure part of Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Should these leaders be treated as POWs? What difference would it make if they are?</li>
<li>Most importantly, what can Armenia do to secure their safe return asap? Does the Armenian government have the political interest or will, to put forward the effort?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="legal-status-of-artsakh-refugees">Legal Status of Artsakh Refugees</h2>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What legal status should the Artsakhtsis have in Armenia?
<ul>
<li>IDP or refugee? What’s the difference?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-government-in-exile">Artsakh Government in Exile</h2>
<p>On Sep. 28 Artsakh president Samvel Shahramanyan signed a letter of dissolution of the state and defense forces of the Republic of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was Shahramanyan’s letter to dissolve Artsakh legal? Can a president or elected official even do this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Currently Shahramanyan by all accounts is in Armenia. Most of the members of the parliament of Artsakh are in Armenia, while for example the speaker of the parliament Davit Ishkanyan, former state minister Ruben Vardanyan and others are in custody in Baku.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can a government in exile be formed with existing elected members and president?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/285/thumbnail-285.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/285/thumbnail-285.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13772663-aram-orbelyan-genocide-consequences-artsakh-leadership-government-in-exile-ep-285-october-13-2023.mp3" length="43559653" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3627</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Sergei Melkonian - Israel-Palestine | Future of Artsakhtsis | Armenia Azerbaijani Negotiations | Ep 284, Oct 8, 2023
[EP284]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/284-sergei-melkonian-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-russian-iranian-perspectives/</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13748999-sergei-melkonian-israel-palestine-future-of-artsakhtsis-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-ep-284-oct-8-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>284</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Israel-Palestine | Future of Artsakhtsis | Armenia Azerbaijani Negotiations | Ep 284, Oct 8, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - October 8, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Flares Up
* The Future of Artsakh and Artsakhtsis
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
Episode 284 | Recorded: October 9, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Flares Up
* The Future of Artsakh and Artsakhtsis
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
Episode 284 | Recorded: October 9, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Flares Up
* The Future of Artsakh and Artsakhtsis
* Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
Episode 284 | Recorded: October 9, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="israeli-palestinian-conflict-flares-up">Israeli Palestinian Conflict Flares Up</h2>
<p>On Saturday, Hamas and Israel clashed on the border of the Gaza strip. At the time of our recording, over 800 Israelis are reportedly dead, with over 2000 injured. The Palestinians report over 350 dead and over 2300 injured. It was a very uncharacteristic war, where Palestinian guerillas achieved unexpected results in their offensives, although Israel is now striking back and recovering some of the lost positions and villages.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What brought on this round of violence? Who started it and why?</li>
<li>What dangers might this conflict bring to our region? How big is the possibility of escalation into a larger regional war involving Iran?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are Israeli reports that they’ve apprehended Turkish supplies and logistics targeted to the Palestinians. Meanwhile the Azeris are pro-Israel.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are the Turks, and by that we mean both Turkey and Azerbaijan, playing this issue?</li>
<li>How should Armenia react to these affairs?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-future-of-artsakh--artsakhtsis">The Future of Artsakh &amp; Artsakhtsis</h2>
<p>Since the depopulation of Artsakh, when 100,000 Armenians were forcibly removed from their indigenous homeland, we’ve been asking our analyst this same question.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the Artsakh conflict over?</li>
<li>What is the future of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p>The government of Artsakh was disbanded by president Samvel Shahramanyan, on Sep. 28.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Should Artsakh reconstitute as a government-in-exile?</li>
<li>Would Armenia host such a government?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past 2 weeks over 100,000 Artsakh refugees flooded into Armenia. This is on top of the additional 40-plus thousands who were already in Armenia since the war in 2020.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What options do these refugees have? Can they ever return to their homeland? And should they even, at the cost of living under Azerbaijani rule, as an oppressed minority?</li>
<li>What is Armenia’s perspective on these refugees? Are they being viewed purely through a humanitarian lens, or also a political lens?
<ul>
<li>Are they being classified as refugees, or IDPs?</li>
<li>Does the current government want them in Armenia, or not in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<p>The Grenada meeting last week was in some ways disappointing and in other ways, even more disappointing. First, Azerbaijani president Aliyev did not show up. He wanted Turkish president Erdogan to attend his summit with Pashinyan, but European leaders rejected it, so neither Aliyev nor Erdogan showed up in Spain. Second, Aliyev’s absence did not prevent Pashinyan from signing something that he had said only verbally so far; he signed under a written statement formalizing his recognition of Azerbaijan’s sovereignty, specifying the 86,600 sq km of land area.</p>
<p>Immediately after the signing, Azerbaijani <a href="https://twitter.com/NasimiAghayev/status/1710735177213763796">diplomats</a> and media began circulating older demands that Armenia is in control of “8 villages” (referring to enclaves) which should be relinquished immediately.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did Pashinyan sign a written statement when Aliyev was not even present?</li>
<li>Does Aliyev’s “boycott” mean that the risk of war is higher (because we know that Aliyev is not satisfied</li>
</ul>
<p>Earlier you mentioned the topic of enclaves.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are enclaves also included?</li>
<li>Can you tell us the details on this enclave issue? What are these enclaves, where are they, and what is their significance?
<ul>
<li>Note: even today, Armenian cartography expert Ruben Galichian has asserted that there is no legal or historical basis for the Azeri enclave demands on Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>If the enclaves are officially recognized as Azerbaijan, doesn’t this give Aliyev more pretext for another war?
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan likely to compromise on the issue of enclaves?
<ul>
<li>Note: It seems he has in at least one interview said that yes, the enclaves are part of the 86.6k sq km, but also added that Artsvashen is part of Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>There are signs that Aliyev may be looking to move the negotiations platform away from Europe. On Sunday, Aliyev <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-aliyev-armenia-talks-georgia-karabakh/32628325.html">said</a> that he would start talks in Georgia immediately, with Armenia. Additionally, today Russia has also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121507.html">offered to organize</a> a meeting of the three foreign ministers in Bishkek, and possibly <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121514.html">in collaboration</a> with the US and the EU, saying that  the Armenian Azerbaijani conflict is <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121510.html">not resolved</a> yet.</p>
<p>Russian experts are also predicting that Aliyev will try to move negotiations back to Russia, or somewhere away from the West.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Aliyev trying to dump the Western platforms, and move negotiations back to Russia, or Georgia, or the 3+3?</li>
<li>Should Pashinyan accept moving the negotiations back to Russia or Georgia?</li>
<li>What  are the pros and cons of such shuffling of the platforms at this point in time?</li>
</ul>
<p>With the concern that Pashinyan has agreed to give away the enclaves, which will be a chokehold on Armenia’s major communication arteries, it seems that the only “red line” left for Armenia would be its sovereignty over Syunik despite the demand from Turkey and Azerbaijan of multiple passageways through Armenia’s south, or what they call the “Zangezur corridor”. Armenia has repeatedly stated that it would retain sovereignty over any such road and has accused Turkey and Azerbaijan of claiming an ex-territorial corridor. Iran has stated firmly that Armenia’s borders and any geopolitical changes are a red line for them. The nuance here is that in point 9 of the Nov 2020 statement it states: “control over transport communication shall be exercised by the Border Guard Service bodies of the FSS of Russia”, so in a sense people are arguing that Armenia already ceded sovereignty.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With all the remaining points of the Nov 9/10 statement being apparently moot, does it make sense for Armenia to even stay as a signatory of that statement? Could Armenia withdraw from the statement?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past few days, Iran stepped up its diplomatic activities around reducing tensions in the south of Armenia, to prevent an outbreak of violence or possibly even war. Reportedly Iran and Azerbaijan have agreed to a railroad through Iran to connect Azerbaijan and Nakhijevan, which Turks have said is an alternative to the railroad through Meghri (part of the “Zangezur corridor”). Additionally, Azerbaijan and Iran have announced joint military exercises. Their diplomatic row over the attack on the Azerbaijani consulate in Tabriz also seems to be on the mend.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you expand on the geopolitics around this road? What are Iran’s goals, and how is it achieving them?</li>
<li>Does this mean that Turkey and Azerbaijan will give up on Syunik?</li>
<li>It was a common talking point that Armenia was refraining from military cooperation with Iran because of potential western prohibitions. How can Azerbaijan get away with getting arms from the US for use against Iran, while at the same time cooperating militarily with Iran on training exercises?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: The effect of Artsakh’s  demise on our kids</li>
<li><strong>Sergei</strong>: Make Artsakh Refugees at home in Armenia, and do not give up hope.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/284/thumbnail-284.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/284/thumbnail-284.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13748999-sergei-melkonian-israel-palestine-future-of-artsakhtsis-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-ep-284-oct-8-2023.mp3" length="42649456" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3551</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Is the Armenian Azerbaijani Conflict Over? | Ep 283, Oct 5, 2023
[EP283]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/283-benyaminpoghosyan-is-the-armenian-azerbaijani-conflict-over-granada-geopolitics-war-unfolding/</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13726144-benyamin-poghosyan-is-the-armenian-azerbaijani-conflict-over-ep-283-oct-5-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>283</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Is the Armenian Azerbaijani Conflict Over? | Ep 283, Oct 5, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/05/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Outstanding Causes of the Conflict
* Why did Aliyev Bail out of Granada?
* Could Azerbaijan Attack Armenia?
* How Might Events Unfold?
Episode 283 | Recorded: October 5, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Outstanding Causes of the Conflict
* Why did Aliyev Bail out of Granada?
* Could Azerbaijan Attack Armenia?
* How Might Events Unfold?
Episode 283 | Recorded: October 5, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Outstanding Causes of the Conflict
* Why did Aliyev Bail out of Granada?
* Could Azerbaijan Attack Armenia?
* How Might Events Unfold?
Episode 283 | Recorded: October 5, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="outstanding-causes-of-the-armenian-azerbaijani-conflict">Outstanding Causes of the Armenian Azerbaijani Conflict</h2>
<p>The 2020 defeat in the second war in Artsakh culminated last week in the complete surrendering of Artsakh to Azerbaijan, by Pashinyan’s government. But is the conflict over? In this <strong>Conversations on Groong</strong> episode, we’ll take a look at the aftermath of the <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/nagorno-karabakh-enclave-emptied-entire-armenian-population-flees/story?id=103655356">great exodus of Armenians from their indigenous lands in Artsakh</a>, and what Armenia is facing geopolitically at this juncture.</p>
<p>Even though we’ve been seeing the demise of the Artsakh Republic coming, ever since the defeat in the 44-day war in 2020, I guess most Armenians both in the republic, as well as the diaspora, had held out hope that it would not come to pass. You and many experts we talk to weekly on our show have been warning of this disastrous outcome for three years now.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="why-did-aliyev-bail-out-of-granada">Why Did Aliyev Bail Out of Granada?</h2>
<p>Just yesterday, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1121173.html">Aliyev declined</a> the long-scheduled summit with Pashinyan in Granada, Spain. He reportedly requested that Turkish president Erdogan be present at the summit, as well as the French, German, and EU leaders. They refused, and so Aliyev bailed out. Clearly he’s unhappy, and he didn’t like the picture in Granada, and this doesn’t portend well for the so-called “peace treaty” that Pashinyan and his circle keep pushing and idolizing.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does this mean for the state of the negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-and-russia-held-secret-talks-days-before-nagorno-karabakh-crisis/">Reportedly</a> the US, Russia and the EU met “secretly” in Istanbul to discuss “the standoff on Nagorno Karabakh”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did these current enemies meet on this topic?</li>
<li>Who initiated the meeting?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="how-might-events-unfold">How Might Events Unfold?</h2>
<p>Each of the major geopolitical players have their interests in the region.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are those interests?</li>
<li>Could Azerbaijan attack Armenia?</li>
<li>How Might Events Unfold?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/283/thumbnail-283.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/283/thumbnail-283.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13726144-benyamin-poghosyan-is-the-armenian-azerbaijani-conflict-over-ep-283-oct-5-2023.mp3" length="1269" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>15259278</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - The Game of Alternatives | Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively | Ep 282, Oct 3, 2023
[EP282]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/282-arthur-martirosyan-game-of-alternatives-is-armenia-negotiating-effectively/</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13714109-arthur-g-martirosyan-the-game-of-alternatives-is-armenia-negotiating-effectively-ep-282-oct-4-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>282</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - The Game of Alternatives | Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively | Ep 282, Oct 3, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/04/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* The Game of Alternatives
* How does it apply to Negotiations?
* Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively?
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* The Game of Alternatives
* How does it apply to Negotiations?
* Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively?
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* The Game of Alternatives
* How does it apply to Negotiations?
* Is Armenia Negotiating Effectively?
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="overview">Overview</h2>
<p>Today, October 3, 2023, the Civil Contract controlled Armenian National Assembly ratified the Rome Statute, the treaty that is the foundation for the International Criminal Court (ICC). This move is just one in a series of curious recent moves by the Armenian government that has angered Russia, considered a strategic ally to Armenia - perhaps for not too long after this.</p>
<p>We have regularly covered the attempts by the Pashinyan regime to change the strategic foreign policy vector of Armenia, from one of a Russian satellite towards a Western-oriented one in a time when Russia is engaged in an existential war with the US and the West.</p>
<p>Today, we’d like to discuss with the calculations that Armenia&rsquo;s authorities are relying upon in their provocatively aggressive, some would say “suicidal”, positioning.</p>
<h2 id="the-game-of-alternatives">The Game of Alternatives</h2>
<p>Arthur, in your previous interviews with us and other media, you frequently refer to the concept of the &lsquo;alternative game&rsquo;.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe in more detail what you mean by this and how it applies to decision making processes?</li>
</ul>
<p>–</p>
<p>Pashinyan claims that Russia has betrayed Armenia multiple times, citing the “inability or unwillingness” of Russia to intervene during previous cases of Azerbaijani attacks on Armenia proper. Pashinyan has furthermore criticized Russian peacekeepers in Artsakh whom he blames for allowing Azerbaijan to encroach upon Armenian-held lands, culminating in the ethnic cleansing of Artsakh in a matter of weeks. Pashinyan claimed that these incidents led Armenia towards the path of seeking alternative security guarantors, and claims that it was also why Armenia ratified the Rome Statute, just today as a matter of fact.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you apply the “alternatives game” process behind those decisions?</li>
<li>Can you look at this problem from Aliyev’s perspective and rationalize why he feels he can act as belligerently as he does, and that the risk is low for anyone to react meaningfully to him.</li>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan constantly able to engage in military brinkmanship and act aggressively, frequently successfully?</li>
</ul>
<p>In our view Pashinyan is making a large number of wrong choices for Armenia. Of course he&rsquo;s the one who has access to the most amount of information based on which he makes his choices. You, and I, and Hovik, do not have access to a lot of national security information that he does.</p>
<p>Let&rsquo;s assume that Pashinyan is a rational actor, and he&rsquo;s making rational choices.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What would be the premises from which he&rsquo;s making his decisions for them to be rational, in the sense that we consider them as protecting Armenian national interests?</li>
<li>What promises would have been made to him to form a basis for relying on the US and the EU, as a security alternative to Russia, for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/282/thumbnail-282.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/282/thumbnail-282.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13714109-arthur-g-martirosyan-the-game-of-alternatives-is-armenia-negotiating-effectively-ep-282-oct-4-2023.mp3" length="2147" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25802822</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches | What 'Peace Treaty' in Granada? | Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage
[EP281]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/281-arthur-martirosyan-artsakh-surrenders-armenia-granada-peace-treaty-karabakh-leaders-hostage/</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13705386-arthur-g-martirosyan-artsakh-surrenders-armenia-watches-what-peace-treaty-in-granada-arrested-artsakh-leaders-held-hostage.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>281</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches | What 'Peace Treaty' in Granada? | Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Oct 1, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches
* What "Peace Treaty" in Granada?
* Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches
* What "Peace Treaty" in Granada?
* Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Surrenders, Armenia Watches
* What "Peace Treaty" in Granada?
* Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage
Episode 281 | Recorded: October 1, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="artsakh-surrenders-as-armenia-watches">Artsakh Surrenders As Armenia Watches</h2>
<p>We have warned our listeners for three years now that Armenia under Pashinyan is headed down a disastrous roadmap and path of surrendering Artsakh, not protecting the ancestral lands of the indigenous Armenians of Artsakh, and leading to their depopulation.</p>
<p>Pashinyan’s talk of the “rights and security” of Artsakhtsis is now clear to everyone: it was bullshit, he hasn’t raised a finger to defend them. The EU’s talk of “rights and security” was bullshit, we haven’t heard or seen anything from the hypocrite Charles Michel, and the same from the US.</p>
<p>So far, the the west’s “lowering the bar on Artsakh” has meant that they wanted to allow Azerbaijan to commit and get away with Genocide.</p>
<p>In the past week, over 100,000 Armenians have forcibly left their homeland of thousands of years. Anywhere else in this world this is called genocide, but because major power interests dictate otherwise, the world is silent,</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Your thoughts?</li>
<li>Is the Artsakh conflict over? Is Artsakh as we know it since the fall of the Soviet Union finished?</li>
</ul>
<p>Abandoned by everyone, first and foremost by Pashinyan’s Armenia, Artsakh president Samvel Shahramanyan met with Azeri authorities and signed the dissolution of Artsakh as a republic and the disbanding of Artsakh’s government and defense forces.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Many experts say that officials do not have the right to take down decisions that were made by the people, by elections and referendums. So is Shahramanyan’s dissolution technically valid, or is it just that the Azeris have the power right now, and it’s either what they say, or you die?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since December 2022, Artsakhtsis endured 9 months of a blockade, followed by an intense 2-day war, only to quickly bury their dead and evacuate their homeland. Families had to leave knowing that their loved ones are still missing or unaccounted for from the latest fighting. Samvel Shahramanyan and a small team have <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ArtsakhInformation/posts/pfbid02H9GXKjXQ3cAmqZ5rXVz7KsTrUzVEK3kXTE3aVCtocZT1jSSZGprnzFgzCPxuJJXMl">stayed behind</a>, to continue the search for missing bodies.</p>
<p>Hindsight is 20-20, but many Artsakhtsis are questioning the decision to resist the blockade for 9 months, then to lose so many lives, only to completely capitulate and be expelled from their homes.</p>
<p>We know there were reports that the West was urging Stepanakert to negotiate on so-called “reintegration” back in July., and clearly the authorities in Artsakh couldn’t expect help from Yerevan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How did the Artsakh authorities intend to hold back the Azeris? What made them decide to reject Baku’s initial demands, as painful and humiliating as they were? Should Artsakh’s leadership have accepted to go to Yevlakh in July?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="what-peace-treaty-in-granada">What “Peace Treaty” in Granada?</h2>
<p>As Artsakhtsis are looking for shelter in refugee camps, and the blood has still not dried on the ground in Artsakh, Armenian officials such as Alen Simonyan are apparently very <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/783039.html">optimistic</a> that a so-called “peace treaty” is close. There are rumors that it could be signed as early as October 5, when Aliyev and Pashinyan meet in Grenada.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What would be the parameters of such a peace treaty?
<ul>
<li>Corridors?</li>
<li>Return of Azeris to Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is it in Armenia’s interests to rush to sign this treaty? If not, does Armenia have a way to not sign it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="arrested-artsakh-leaders-held-hostage">Arrested Artsakh Leaders Held Hostage</h2>
<p>The exodus from Artsakh was accompanied by detention of key Armenian leaders.</p>
<ul>
<li>Ruben Vardanyan was arrested as he was trying to cross the Hakari bridge checkpoint.</li>
<li>Major General Davit Manukyan, First Deputy Commander of the Artsakh Defense Army (and brother of Armenian MP Gegham Manukyan) was also arrested.</li>
<li>Lt. General Levon Mnatsakanyan, former Commander of the Artsakh Defense Army was also arrested.</li>
<li>Davit Babayan, former foreign minister of Artsakh and later advisor to president Arayik Harutyunyan, turned himself in, arguing that not doing so would cause damage to people around him.</li>
</ul>
<p>There are reports that Azerbaijan has compiled a list of hundreds of statesmen and military leaders, seeking their arrest. So it’s quite possible that the number of detainees may increase.</p>
<p>Add to this all the existing POWs and civilians held by Baku since 2020.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur, what can be done to get our men back? Is there a difference between Ruben Vardanyan for instance vs. a general vs. a regular rank and file soldier?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/281/thumbnail-281.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/281/thumbnail-281.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13705386-arthur-g-martirosyan-artsakh-surrenders-armenia-watches-what-peace-treaty-in-granada-arrested-artsakh-leaders-held-hostage.mp3" length="38191627" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3179</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh - Genocide in Progress | Ep 280 - Sep 24, 2023
[EP280]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/280-hrant-mikaelian-azerbaijan-attacks-artsakh-genocide-in-progress/</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 00:06:59 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13662577-hrant-mikaelian-azerbaijan-attacks-artsakh-genocide-in-progress-ep-280-sep-24-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>280</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh - Genocide in Progress | Ep 280 - Sep 24, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - September 24, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh
* Genocide in Progress
Episode 280 | Recorded: Sep 25, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh
* Genocide in Progress
Episode 280 | Recorded: Sep 25, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh
* Genocide in Progress
Episode 280 | Recorded: Sep 25, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijan-attacks-artsakh">Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="a-valiant-battle-an-unavoidable-capitulation">A Valiant Battle, An Unavoidable Capitulation</h3>
<p>Azerbaijan attacked and invaded Artsakh on September 19th, starting around 1pm. Our guests have consistently highlighted the goal of the Aliyev regime to depopulate Artsakh through soft means, such as gerrymandering and investing financial resources around Artsakh. But it seems like Aliyev was in a hurry. For weeks now most analysts and observers had warned that Azerbaijan was preparing for a military aggression, so there it was.</p>
<p>The narrative that Erdogan presented was that Aliyev and Pashinyan were deeply concerned with the new presidential election in Artsakh and so Azerbaijan went on the offensive.</p>
<p>The situation is extremely dire:</p>
<ul>
<li>On September 20, after about 24 hours of intensive warfare, the authorities in Artsakh capitulated.</li>
<li>They were forced to go to Yevlakh on September 21, Armenian Independence day, to sign away the sovereignty of Artsakh. The points of negotiation forced by Azeris through military means are:
<ul>
<li>Disarming and disbanding of the Artsakh Defense Army</li>
<li>Disbanding all other elements of Artsakh statehood</li>
<li>“Re-integration” into Azerbaijan without any status</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>First, let’s note that Artsakh was never part of an independent Azerbaijan and so there is no RE-integration. Aliyev doesn’t consider it a positive for his image, or even a doable thing to massacre 120,000 people in Artsakh, so they’re forcing discussions on dissolving and assimilating the Armenians inside Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>All indications are that Artsakh Defense Forces soldiers fought valiantly to the end. Being outnumbered and out-gunned, the present outcome was an inevitability, barring outside intervention. Yet, none came, not even from Armenia. The casualty count <a href="https://twitter.com/VaheBalabanian/status/1704604552018759825">estimate</a> from the Artsakh ombudsman’s office, which hasn’t changed since the first days, is 200 dead, with 400 wounded. But since Azerbaijan managed to slice through Artsakh in multiple points, cutting communication between Stepanakert and the regions, that number is bound to increase once the scale of the losses from the cut off regions becomes known. Unofficial sources report close to 500 servicemen dead, with 600 missing.</p>
<p>There are dozens of civilian deaths, including reports of atrocities as is customary for Azerbaijani military operations. There are unconfirmed reports of grotesque atrocities against civilians, which the media can’t confirm because it&rsquo;s nearly impossible to communicate with the regions of Artsakh. Azerbaijan itself is reportedly not allowing any access to areas that it has conquered and there are unconfirmed reports of a “clean-up” operation, where potential evidence of atrocities may be removed.</p>
<p>After days of tough deliberations, the authorities in Artsakh informed the populace of their decision to allow for evacuation of those citizens that desire to do so, with priority given to those who have lost their homes and can’t live in Artsakh. In reality, this means all 120K citizens of Artsakh will leave.</p>
<p>Let’s not mince words, <strong>this is Ethnic Cleansing, this is Genocide</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this the end of Artsakh?</li>
<li>Who is responsible for losing Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="as-the-world-watches">As the World Watches</h3>
<p>The most humiliating aspect of this bloodbath and ethnic cleansing was the fact that Armenia stood on the side, repeatedly announcing that it has nothing to do with the Artsakh military and it has no plans to intervene in order to save the lives of Armenians.</p>
<p>The international community also stood by and watched.</p>
<p>Some more condemnations were heard.</p>
<ul>
<li>The US State Department, which previously announced that it would not tolerate any military attacks against people of Artsakh, issued bland statements of concern and mild condemnation. On Sep 22, at the UN General Assembly meeting, Biden posed for pictures with Bayramov smiling ear to ear.</li>
<li>The EU also issued mild statements of condemnation, but there are reports that Hungary vetoed a resolution with stronger teeth. However, lest you be confused that the EU would do anything to jeopardize its positions in Azerbaijan, on September 22, 2 days after the bloodbath, the EU inked a new deal with Baku to increase gas supplies.</li>
<li>Russia reportedly lost at least 5-7 peacekeepers, who also were targeted by Azerbaijan, including the deputy commander of the entire mission. Yet, Putin and Aliyev held a telephone call, the latter apologized, and things seem back to normal. The Russian peacekeepers seem to be fulfilling a strictly humanitarian role, such as delivering supplies to civilians, evacuating the wounded to Armenia, and so on. Meanwhile the Russian media continues to put the blame for what’s going on in Artsakh squarely on Pashinyan’s shoulders, claiming that Russia’s leverage is limited due to Pashinyan’s recognition of Artsakh as Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-unsc-theatre-show">The UNSC Theatre Show</h3>
<p>Pashinyan and cronies spent the whole time on the phone with European leaders updating them on the situation. The UNSC held a meeting to discuss the situation, and the Pashinyan administration was deeply embarrassed with foreign minister Mirzoyan’s address begging for UN mandated presence to secure the rights and safety of Artsakhtsis and prevent genocide, was negated by Azerbaijani foreign minister Bayramov quoting Pashinyan saying that he believes Artskhtsis will be treated well! Mirzoyan was seen on video furiously exiting the UNSC hall.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is it possible for this Armenian government to be so deeply disorganized, incompetent and embarrass the whole nation in front of the whole world?</li>
<li>Are Pashinyan and Mirzoyan not on the same page? Could there be divisions within the ruling party?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="can-anything-be-salvaged">Can Anything Be Salvaged?</h3>
<p>Since the authorities and the defense forces in Artsakh were forced to lay down their arms, initial concerns centered around how to defend the population. But many Artsakhtsis can’t imagine living under Turkish or Azeri rule as so-called “Azerbaijani Armenians”, given our history for the last century. <em>After all, who today remembers the 300,000 strong community of Armenians of Baku and Sumgait?</em></p>
<p>The exodus has already begun, and perhaps now the primary concern is how to manage such a mass tragedy. And we’ve read conflicting things about how this is viewed by various actors in the conflict:</p>
<p>What do the main actors say, and what do they think?</p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan says that Armenia is ready to accept Artsakh refugees, but word is that he’s deeply concerned that such an influx of Artsakhtsis in Armenia would destabilize the political situation against him.</li>
<li>Aliyev says Artsakhtsis can stay as Azerbaijani citizens, but he’s doing everything possible to make them flee. Like mutilating the bodies of killed Artsakh soldiers, drawing up lists of the men whom he will prosecute as criminals and traitors, and much more. There’s no end to the human tragedy he’s inflicting.</li>
<li>Russia can’t or won’t raise a finger to defend Artsakhtsis, but would rather see them remain in place, so that they have a reason to stay in the region. But Artsakh is at present very low on Russia’s priorities, compared to Ukraine, so their actions are not where their words are.</li>
<li>The US and the EU hope to not see an outright massacre, but couldn’t care less about anything else, whether Artsakh is Armenian or Azeri, or Martian. The EU wants a clear path for Caspian energy to flow to Europe, and the US wants Russia out of the area, in order to pursue greater global goals.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What options do Artsakhtsis have?</li>
<li>What do we know about the agreements reached in Yevlakh? Is there any protection or cover for those fleeing to Armenia?</li>
<li>What accommodations will there be for 120,000 refugees in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyans-statement-about-independence">Pashinyan’s Statement about “Independence”</h3>
<p>On Sep 24, as the mass exodus of Artsakh Armenians picked up steam, Pashinyan felt it necessary to make a <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/statements-and-messages/item/2023/09/24/Nikol-Pashinyan-messages/">public address</a>. The speech appeared intended to talk about Armenia’s sovereignty and independence and Pashinyan felt necessary to include a great deal about Armenia’s relations with Russia here.</p>
<p>Pashinyan Confirmed that Armenia decided to pass the Rome Statute when according to Pashinyan it became apparent that Armenia’s security partnership is not meeting its needs. He went further to blame the Russian peacekeepers for what is going on in Artsakh.</p>
<p>The Russian foreign ministry today (September 25) with a <a href="https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1906229">strong rebuke</a> saying that it was only due to personal intervention of Putin that the 2020 war was stopped where it was. The Russian statement also stated that Armenian leadership is trying to sever “centuries-old” ties between Russians and Armenians, at the instigation of the West.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment about Pashinyan’s recent statement and the Russian response?</li>
<li>How would you analyze the shift towards the “preservation of sovereignty or statehood” message? It seems overnight, the government propaganda has shifted from accusing the Armenian opposition of supporting the corrupt “formers” to accusations that the opposition is supporting the degradation of Armenia’s statehood.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="a-new-protest-movement">A New Protest Movement</h3>
<p>In the aftermath of what transpired, a new protest movement erupted, led by students form Artsakh. In 5 days, the protest has swelled to include individuals who include</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hovik, you’ve been at the protests. What is your sense of what’s happening?</li>
<li>Hrant, is this protest movement really different from previous attempts by the opposition to force Pashinyan’s resignation? Are the protesters showing any evidence of a new approach?</li>
<li>There are reports of numerous arrests and evidence of an iron fist policy by Pashinyan against protesters. Is there any echo from international bodies?
<ul>
<li>Has this policy been put to action?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How is this different from 2021? How should it be different?</li>
</ul>
<p>The protesters announced the formation of a new National Committee, that includes Vazgen Manukyan, Hayk Mamijanyan, Avetik Chalabyan, Ishkhan Saghatelyan, etc…</p>
<p>In reality, this seems to be a reformulation of the Homeland Salvation Movement idea.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP279]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/279-dziunik-aghajanian-un-security-council-artsakh-yerevan-elections/</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13587691-dziunik-aghajanian-un-security-council-artsakh-yerevan-elections-ep-279-sep-13-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>279</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian: UN Security Council | Artsakh | Yerevan Elections | Ep 279 - Sep 13, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 09/13/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Topics:
* Armenia's Diplomacy at the UN
* Artsakh Elections / Blockade
* Yerevan Elections
#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)</itunes:summary><description>
#### Topics:
* Armenia's Diplomacy at the UN
* Artsakh Elections / Blockade
* Yerevan Elections
#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)</description><googleplay:description>
#### Topics:
* Armenia's Diplomacy at the UN
* Artsakh Elections / Blockade
* Yerevan Elections
#### Guest:
* [Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenias-diplomacy-at-the-un">Armenia’s Diplomacy at the UN</h2>
<h3 id="unsc-meeting-on-august-16">UNSC Meeting On August 16</h3>
<p>On August 16, at the request of Armenia, the UN Security Council held a hearing on the blockade in Artsakh. Various countries spoke out, some surpassing expectations and delivering pro-Armenian speeches and others (especially Brazil) delivering very disappointing speeches. However, perhaps more importantly, no resolutions were introduced, no speeches were made by the president of the security council, and so far, almost a month later, there has been no follow-through.</p>
<p>In the past, you’ve held various important roles at the MFA including heading the international organization division there, so we’re excited at the opportunity here to ask you about these developments directly:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>First, how would you evaluate the results of the UNSC meeting?</li>
<li>A day earlier, Vartan Oskanian in one of his <a href="youtu.be/ZHY0X54p8kc">video recordings</a> warned about potential negative repercussions from a resolution, namely that there would be attempts to include statements in there that recognize Azerbaijani sovereignty over Artsakh. Do you believe in the current international geopolitical climate, it will be easy to avoid some booby traps?</li>
</ul>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/un-new-york/eu-statement-un-security-council-armenia-pr-letter-13-september-2022_en?s=63">agenda</a> for the meeting said that the meeting was based on the Sep 13, 2022 letter to the UNSC, which as we all know is about the Azerbaijani attack on Armenia proper, not about Artsakh and definitely not about the blockade. Why?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="rumors-of-french-resolution">Rumors of French Resolution</h3>
<p>A week later, on August 24, Le Figaro <a href="https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/dans-le-haut-karabakh-la-france-au-secours-des-armeniens-20230824">reported</a> that France was getting ready to propose a new resolution at the security council. Meanwhile, around the same time, there were allegations, denied by US diplomats, that it was the US that was trying to derail any potential resolution against Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Those rumors about a potential French resolution were more than 10 days ago, while the crisis in Artsakh is deepening by the day.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you have any updates on if/when France plans to submit a resolution?</li>
<li>What is your assessment of these behind-the-scenes games and allegations?</li>
<li>Do you see any scenario where the UNSC in the current political climate could come up with a resolution that has teeth and is not a double-edged sword for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<p>Samvel Shahramanyan is now president of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about the changes? What do they mean?</li>
<li>Should there be parity between Aghdam/Akna and Lachin/Berdzor?</li>
<li>How far can that trust in the new government take them and how long will that trust last, if the Artsakh regime is openly being betrayed by Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="yerevan-mayoral-elections-2023">Yerevan Mayoral Elections 2023</h2>
<p>This coming Sunday, September 17, is the date of the Yerevan Mayoral, or more technically speaking, Yerevan Council of Elders (Avakanou) elections. An MPG poll this past weekend <a href="https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan/status/1699800824854020275">yielded</a> the following results:</p>
<ol>
<li>Civil Contract (Tigran Avinyan) 16.3%</li>
<li>National Progress (Hayk Marutyan) 11.8%</li>
<li>Mayr Hayastan (Andranik Tevanyan) 5.1%</li>
<li>Aprelu Yerkir (Mane Tandilyan) 3.8%</li>
<li>Public Voice (Artak Galstyan) 3.6%</li>
</ol>
<p>About 22.8% said that they are undecided while 20% said they refuse to disclose.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are you actively participating in the campaign?</li>
<li>What are your present thoughts about these elections? First of all, do you think we’re having free and fair campaigning and will the results be free and fair?</li>
<li>There is an important contingent, 23% of polled respondents who are undecided. What’s your read of this group? How can Mayr Hayastan pull these people into its camp?</li>
<li>Tevanyan is a distant third in the polls. Do you think his campaign is touching on the right topics that voters in Yerevan want to hear?</li>
</ul>
<p>Andranik Tevanyan has made it clear, and has made the primary topic of his campaign, the removal of the current ruling party, and Pashinyan, from office.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think that 5% support is an indication of success? How is Mayr Hayastan adjusting its strategy, in order to win the election?</li>
<li>Will the results of this election become grounds for the ruling party to continue its politics of abandoning Artsakh, by claiming that their policies were affirmed by their win?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
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[EP278]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/278-benyamin-poghosyan-developments-in-artsakh-geopolitics-in-south-caucasus/</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13582536-benyamin-poghosyan-developments-in-artsakh-geopolitics-in-the-south-caucasus-ep-278-sep-10-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>278</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Developments in Artsakh | Geopolitics in the South Caucasus | Ep 278 - Sep 10, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - September 10, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Developments in Artsakh
* Geopolitics in the South Caucasus
Episode 278 | Recorded: September 10, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Developments in Artsakh
* Geopolitics in the South Caucasus
Episode 278 | Recorded: September 10, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Developments in Artsakh
* Geopolitics in the South Caucasus
Episode 278 | Recorded: September 10, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="developments-in-artsakh">Developments in Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="election-of-new-president">Election of New President</h3>
<p>Over the weekend the parliament in Artsakh <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32585399.html">elected</a> a new president to replace Arayik Harutyunyan, who resigned a week earlier. Samvel Shahramanyan is an ally of former president Bako Sahakyan and has led the Artsakh Security Council during Harutyunyan’s presidency.</p>
<p>Shahramanyan stated that Artsakh must get status, and be connected via the Berdzor/Lachin corridor to Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is to be expected from Shahramanyan’s presidency?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="shahramanyans-potential">Shahramanyan’s Potential</h3>
<p>Overall, the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32574666.html">EU</a>, the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32584208.html">US</a>, and the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1119143.html">Russians</a>, have essentially endorsed Azerbaijan’s proposal, that aid begin to flow through the Aghdam/Akna road, and then a day later the Lachin Corridor be opened.</p>
<p>More importantly, concerning the elections, the EU found itself in “interesting company” like Azerbaijan, Turkey, the organization of Turkic States, the UK, Ukraine, and others who explicitly condemned the elections or at a minimum stated that they don’t recognize the results.</p>
<p>Also important to note is that what Azerbaijan perceives as “opening” of the Berdzor/Lachin corridor is a return to the state previous to June 15, when Azerbaijani border guards were manning a checkpoint on the Hakari bridge. Meanwhile, the checkpoint itself is effectively a blockade. It is being used to kidnap Armenians and present challenges to delivery of aid and movement of people, with the aim of making life untenable, and force Armenians to flee Artsakh.</p>
<p>On Sunday, there was news that the Armenian side had accepted a plan to allow a single Russian truck via Aghdam/Akna, but that apparently fell through in the end because the Azerbaijani side didn’t honor its part of the deal.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What caused Azerbaijan to back out of an apparent previous agreement to send a Russian aid truck through Akna? Are you aware of Azerbaijan’s explicit goals and conditions?</li>
<li>What cards do Shahramanyan and Ishkhanyan hold with regard to the potential talks with Baku and the rest of the world?</li>
<li>Can you provide some more details?</li>
</ul>
<p>As an aside to the Artsakh new presidential election process, we should note that all forces except Samvel Babayan’s “United Fatherland” party supported Sahramanyan’s election, although Babayan congratulated Shahramanyan the following day. Babayan supports opening Aghdam for aid to Artsakh, and has led his own <a href="https://www.turan.az/ext/news/2023/7/free/politics_news/en/6044.htm">negotiations</a> with the Azerbaijani side and has argued in the past that Artsakh should offer cooperation with Aliyev to remove Russian peacekeepers, as a negotiation card.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain the Babayan factor in Artsakh politics and geopolitics?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitics-in-the-south-caucasus">Geopolitics in the South Caucasus</h2>
<h3 id="shifting-eu-policy-on-artsakh">Shifting EU Policy on Artsakh?</h3>
<p>Let’s drill down a bit on the EU policy towards Artsakh and Armenia over the past few years.</p>
<p>With the exception of France, the EU seems to have a very specific goal on Artsakh, which was expressed by Pashinyan in his April 2022 <a href="https://infocom.am/en/Article/80568">speech</a>, where he said that the international community is asking Armenia to lower the bar just a little bit. The impression set at the time (at least for some) was that for this minor compromise, the international community would then strongly back Armenia and enact guarantees for the security of Artsakh.</p>
<p>Around those times, the principle of “self determination”, a widely recognized international principle, fell out of use from the announcements and speeches of EU policymakers. One time, Olaf Sholz mistakenly used it during a conference with Pashinyan, but the official record was quickly corrected, further indicating the systematic nature of the erasure of self-determination from the political agenda.</p>
<p>Pashinyan went to Brussels to explicitly verbally recognize Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan an act that many say contravenes the Armenian constitution and legislation. Yet, on the issue of rights and security, we’re seeing a further deterioration.</p>
<p>Even the EU Monitoring Mission, that is deployed solely in Armenia, doesn’t seem to have done much. First, Pashinyan announced that the EU is there to keep tabs on Russia and Armenians to assure them that we’re not the aggressors in border incidents. We then witnessed the EU monitoring mission being absent and not able to record incidents such as the one in Sotq earlier this year. Even during those incidents where the EU mission was clearly present, it doesn’t make any public statements about them, only saying that it&rsquo;s only responsibility is to inform EU policy makers. When the EU monitors themselves were targeted by Azerbaijan, the EU mission went so far as to publicly deny that fact and only admit it when video of the incident leaked.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain the current position of the EU on Artsakh?
<ul>
<li>When the discussions about “lowering the bar” surfaced, in April 2022, you <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/133-april-24-armenian-genocide-day-aliyev-and-pashinyan-in-brussels-pashinyan-in-moscow-ep-133-apr-24-2022/">said</a> that the EU supports Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan with Armenians having “some autonomy” (either out of stupidity or feigning naivete and believing this is really possible). Do you believe that even this position, namely granting “some autonomy”, has changed over time to be even more pro-Azeri?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia---russia-relations">Armenia - Russia Relations</h3>
<p>Last week, we covered the continuing deterioration of the Armenian-Russian relationship. And this week, things continued to head downhill.</p>
<p>Pashinyan held a lengthy interview with the Italian La Republicca, where among many other eye-opening statements he relayed that Armenia’s reliance on Russia as a security guarantor was a strategic mistake.</p>
<p>The next day Armenia announced that it would be participating in military exercises with the US called Eagle Partner 2023. Now, from a military exercise point of view these don’t seem to be very large, just a few hundred people participating, using only small arms. Russia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32582735.html">heavily criticized</a> the holding of these military drills, especially in combination with not participating in CSTO exercises.</p>
<p>Then, later in the week, Armenia announced that it would be sending aid to Ukraine. But more than that, Pashinyan’s wife Anna Hakobyan was selected to deliver the aid and participate in a conference. The visit included photo ops with Hakobyan shaking Zelensky’s hand.</p>
<p>Then, things got even worse when there was a verbal remote spat between speaker of Armenian parliament Alen Simonyan and press secretary of the Russian MFA Maria Zakharova. Zakharova used a pretty insulting joke to describe Armenian leadership’s blaming of security problems on Russia. Simonyan in turn said he doesn’t respond to mere “secretaries”, or something to that effect.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do these small, perhaps seemingly unrelated steps, portend the shifting direction of Armenian geopolitical orientation?</li>
<li>Why would secretary Blinken issue a warning to not use force to resolve issues around Artsakh?</li>
<li>Who would be the winners/losers in a scenario where Azerbaijan attacks and takes over Artsakh by force - not necessarily by killing 120,000 people, but certainly by war and death on both sides?</li>
<li>Could Aliyev and Pashinyan be colluding to remove Russia from the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="is-another-war-brewing">Is Another War Brewing?</h3>
<p>Over the past 3-4 days, there has been an enormous amount of images and video published by Azerbaijani social media users. Various analysts, including the one we trust, NK Observer on twitter, are predicting a high level of likelihood for a renewed war, potentially much larger than the 44 day war and this time the war will be in Armenia.</p>
<p>The Pashinyan regime warned that Azerbaijan is accumulating forces around Artsakh. Artsakh officials are also confirming that Azerbaijan intends to attack.</p>
<p>And over the weekend US Secretary of State Blinken warned against the use of force around Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How likely do you see a new major war, with Russian peacekeepers in Artsakh and EU Monitors on the border of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: New Artsakh leadership a ray of hope to avert catastrophe</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: On the precipice of a new war</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/278/thumbnail-278.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/278/thumbnail-278.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13582536-benyamin-poghosyan-developments-in-artsakh-geopolitics-in-the-south-caucasus-ep-278-sep-10-2023.mp3" length="38485615" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2368</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachikyan - Yerevan Elections | Artsakh Domestic Developments | Negotiations and Geopolitics | Ep 277 - Sep 3, 2023
[EP277]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/277-arthur-khachikyan-yerevan-elections-artsakh-president-resigns-geopolitical-developments/</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13522431-arthur-khachikyan-yerevan-elections-artsakh-geopolitics-ep-277-sep-3-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>277</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachikyan - Yerevan Elections | Artsakh Domestic Developments | Negotiations and Geopolitics | Ep 277 - Sep 3, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Sep 3, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Artsakh Domestic Developments
* Developments in Geopolitics and Negotiations
Episode 277 | Recorded: Sep 3, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Artsakh Domestic Developments
* Developments in Geopolitics and Negotiations
Episode 277 | Recorded: Sep 3, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Artsakh Domestic Developments
* Developments in Geopolitics and Negotiations
Episode 277 | Recorded: Sep 3, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="yerevan-mayoral-elections">Yerevan Mayoral Elections</h2>
<p>On our podcast <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/257">episode 258</a> on May 28, we covered the founding of a new movement called “Mayr Hayastan” (Mother Armenia), spearheaded by Andranik Tevanyan. Many well-known and respected names backed the movement, including yourself.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why did you decide to support the movement?</li>
</ul>
<p>The parliamentary opposition finally decided to <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32565101.html">support</a> former MP Adranik Tevanyan’s run for Yerevan mayor. Tevanyan left the Hayastan Dashinq (Alliance) and formed his own party, or coalition, Mayr Hayastan (Mother Armenia) to run in the elections, because neither Hayastan Dashinq nor Pativ Unem had decided to run or support any candidates at the time.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is Tevanyan doing?</li>
<li>What is Tevanyan’s campaign strategy?</li>
</ul>
<p>Tevanyan has said that a win in Yerevan will set the stage for removing the current government from power. Polls indicate that for most people these elections are about their day-to-day municipal concerns, like garbage collection, transportation issues, metro, water, elevators, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Should Tevanyan not be out there trying to convince voters that he’s the most qualified candidate, concerned with their issues and committed to finding their solutions?</li>
<li>Is it not a concern that by making this municipal campaign about removing the ruling government, then if the ruling party wins, Pashinyan will be able to boast that by the opposition’s own admission, his policies of handing Artsakh to Azerbaijan have been effectively validated by this referendum?</li>
</ul>
<p>Other major candidates running for mayor are the ruling party’s Tigran Avinyan, former Yerevan mayor Hayk Marutyan, and Abrelu Yerkir’s Mane Tandilyan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about these candidates?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mpg-survey-on-yerevan-elections">MPG Survey on Yerevan Elections</h2>
<p>Here we reproduce the survey which we referenced in our discussion:</p>
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</p>
<h2 id="artsakh-domestic-developments">Artsakh Domestic Developments</h2>
<p>First of all, let’s wish everyone a happy Artsakh Independence Day today, Sep 2, 2023.</p>
<p>There have been a lot of developments and internal <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/776496.html">issues</a> in and around Artsakh in the past week and so we’d be remiss if we didn’t touch on them at least a little bit.</p>
<p>Most obviously Arayik Harutyunyan, the president of Artsakh, submitted his <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32572783.html">resignation</a> yesterday. As one of his last acts, he dismissed state minister Gurgen Nersesyan, whom he had appointed, and replaced him with Samvel Shahramanyan, who had been the chair of the Artsakh security council.</p>
<ul>
<li>The resignation had been a long time coming, as the rumors were all over the place for most of 2023. Most recently Ruben Vardanyan put out a video that accused Harutyunyan of reneging on his promises to resign, and it seems like that precipitated events.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>According to Artsakh law, the parliament has 3 days to accept or ratify his resignation. Is there a possibility for surprise, since Arayik’s party controls a significant number of votes in the Artsakh national assembly?</li>
<li>What can we expect from all these changes, assuming Arayik’s resignation is approved by parliament?</li>
<li>Who was interested in this change of leadership in Artsakh, and who was opposed to it?</li>
<li>Samvel Shahramanyan is said to be an old friend and trusted person of former Artskah president Bako Sahakyan. What can we expect from a Sharamanyan administration, coupled with ARF’s Davit Ishkhanyan as the speak of the parliament?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="geopolitical-developments">Geopolitical Developments</h2>
<h3 id="new-escalations-new-fronts">New Escalations, New Fronts?</h3>
<p>This week Azerbaijan resorted to another deadly escalation on the border with Armenia, resulting in the deaths of 3 Armenian servicemen and 2 injuries (one critical). This just goes to highlight that Aliyev and Erdogan don’t seem to be content in stopping or stabilizing the situation.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the reason for escalations? Do you see this as an attempt to spark a wider battle, potentially opening the much talked about “new fronts” against Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="charles-michel-statement--aghdam">Charles Michel Statement &amp; Aghdam</h3>
<p>On the day after the fighting in Sotq, Charles Michel made a <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/09/01/statement-by-the-spokesperson-of-charles-michel-president-of-the-european-council-regarding-armenia-and-azerbaijan/#:~:text=The%20rights%20and%20security%20of,to%20strengthen%20confidence%20and%20trust.">statement</a>. Was it to condemn Azerbaijan for instigating one of the deadliest instances of fighting? Nope. Was it to present the reports about the incident from the EU Monitoring Missions who’s supposed to be monitoring Armenia’s borders? Nope. Was it even to express some “deep concern” about the human lives being destroyed by dictators the EU is doing business with? Nope.</p>
<p>Instead, Charles Michel talked about the deteriorating situation in Artsakh and the need to make “courageous compromises” <strong><!-- raw HTML omitted -->in light of the escalation<!-- raw HTML omitted --></strong> on the border.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur, your favorite pet peeve.. What do Armenians want from Europe?</li>
<li>How would you analyze this statement from Michel?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-vs-russia">Armenia vs. Russia</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, this week, Armenia and Russia continued their downhill spiral in relations. The week started with Armenian and Russian Foreign Ministries squaring off. Later in the week, it seems Armenia is going ahead with ratifying the Rome Statute.</p>
<p>Pashinyan, in an <a href="https://168.am/2023/09/02/1922479.html">interview</a> to Italian La Repubblica, basically said the oft-repeated statement that: “Russia, itself is leaving the region due to the steps taken or not taken by it.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Russia leaving?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="erdogan-putin-meeting">Erdogan-Putin meeting</h3>
<p>OK, coming back to the global conflict, Erdogan and Putin are due to meet soon.</p>
<p>Obviously the Ukrainian grain deal will occupy the top of the list but apparently, South Caucasus is on the agenda as well.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What to expect from the meeting?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: How many Snoop Doggs is a drone worth?</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Armenian apathy towards their own fate.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/277/thumbnail-277.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/277/thumbnail-277.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13522431-arthur-khachikyan-yerevan-elections-artsakh-geopolitics-ep-277-sep-3-2023.mp3" length="28444981" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2368</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Day 264 - Ep 276, September 2, 2023
[EP276]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/276-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-day-264-20230901/</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13514914-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-day-264-september-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>276</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Day 264 - Ep 276, September 2, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - September 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Day 264 - Ep 276, September 1, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - September 1, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Arayik Harutyunyan resignation
* Samvel Shahramanyan state minister
* Kirill Kulakov new commander of Russian PKs
* September 2 - 32nd anniversary
Episode 276 | Recorded: September 1, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Day 264 - Ep 276, September 1, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - September 1, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Arayik Harutyunyan resignation
* Samvel Shahramanyan state minister
* Kirill Kulakov new commander of Russian PKs
* September 2 - 32nd anniversary
Episode 276 | Recorded: September 1, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Day 264 - Ep 276, September 1, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - September 1, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Arayik Harutyunyan resignation
* Samvel Shahramanyan state minister
* Kirill Kulakov new commander of Russian PKs
* September 2 - 32nd anniversary
Episode 276 | Recorded: September 1, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/276/thumbnail-276.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/276/thumbnail-276.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13514914-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-day-264-september-2-2023.mp3" length="14493246" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>276</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tevan Poghosyan - UNSC Meeting on Karabakh | Artsakh Internal Developments | Yerevan Elections | Ep 275 - August 20, 2023
[EP275]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/275-tevan-poghosyan-unsc-meeting-artsakh-karabakh-internal-developments-yerevan-elections/</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13460295-tevan-poghosyan-unsc-meeting-on-karabakh-artsakh-internal-developments-yerevan-elections-ep-275-august-20-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>275</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan - UNSC Meeting on Karabakh | Artsakh Internal Developments | Yerevan Elections | Ep 275 - August 20, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 08/20/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* UNSC Meeting on Artsakh
* Artsakh Internal Developments
* Yerevan Elections
Episode 275 | Recorded: August 22, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* UNSC Meeting on Artsakh
* Artsakh Internal Developments
* Yerevan Elections
Episode 275 | Recorded: August 22, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* UNSC Meeting on Artsakh
* Artsakh Internal Developments
* Yerevan Elections
Episode 275 | Recorded: August 22, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="un-security-council-meeting">UN Security Council Meeting</h2>
<p>There are still many unanswered questions regarding the UNSC meeting this past week, where the Artsakh issue was discussed.</p>
<p>The UNSC <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32548591.html">discussed</a> the situation in Artsakh, and there were many statements of support for reopening the Lachin-Berdzor corridor and demands that Azerbaijan should lift the blockade on Artsakh from UNSC members. None of that has happened, and Azerbaijan didn’t even bother to send its foreign minister to the meeting.</p>
<p>However, the US invited Turkey to attend the meeting, and of course Turkey gave full support to the Azeri stance.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why would the US invite Turkey to the UNSC meeting, when technically the issue discussed had nothing to do with them?</li>
<li>Why didn’t Armenia, or another Security Council member invite Iran, a neighbor as related to this conflict as Turkey is, to the meeting?</li>
<li>No UNSC binding resolutions were either requested, or came forth from the UNSC meeting. Some say that the weakness of the outcome can be seen as a green light for Azerbaijan to continue or intensify its belligerent position towards Armenia. Do you agree? If so, in hindsight, was it a good idea to call this meeting in the first place?</li>
</ul>
<p>Some countries expressed surprising positions. For instance, Brazil used the term “Khankendi”. Pro-western analysts praised the US position as “good” and decried Russia’s position which again seemed to suggest to use the Aghdam road. France, as expected, had the most pro-Armenian speech.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did Armenia do a good job in preparing for this meeting?</li>
</ul>
<p>On the heels of this meeting, Armenia immediately <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32549025.html">announced</a> that the next round of negotiations with Azerbaijan will be held in September. Interestingly, according to our regular guest Sergei Melkonian, <a href="https://168.am/2023/08/21/1916350.html">Armenia has asked Iran</a> to not get in the way of Pashinyan’s “peace agenda”. Everyone knows that Iran has a clearly defined redline about changing its border with Armenia: that is a no go.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is Armenia’s government trying to accomplish?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-internal-developments">Artsakh Internal Developments</h2>
<p>There are signs of internal trouble in Artsakh, of a potential coup attempt in Artsakh. It all initially was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32557687.html">externalized</a> by Ruben Vardanyan through a video address on Saturday.</p>
<ul>
<li>Ruben Vardanyan <a href="https://youtu.be/8_eds3kwmnc">video</a></li>
<li>Arshavir Gharamyan facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ArshavirGharamyanSureni/posts/pfbid02BvqshzYTXitSk8xpLnRVqFcTt5N9F4dvGjME9suohKx6mszsjxVokV1FA83nZ84tl">post</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhcxPn-HjXQ">Announcement</a> by leader of militia</li>
</ul>
<p>Since the start of 2023 Arayik Harutyunyan has disseminated rumors of his resignation as president of Artsakh. In the months following Ruben Vardanyan’s forced resignation as state minister of Artsakh, Harutyunyan even spearheaded a constitutional amendment to allow the Artsakh Parliament to elect, or <em>select</em>, a president under conditions of martial law. But he has not resigned yet.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do we know about this incident?</li>
<li>Is Arayik Harutyunyan trying to cling to power, or is he being forced to stay on as president by powers that need him to continue the current process with Azerbaijan?
<ul>
<li>Who are those powers, and what outcomes are they pursuing?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>The militia that raided and threatened politicians in Stepanakert has also claimed that Arayik Harutyunyan is not guilty of losing the 44-day war, but rather that guilt falls upon former presidents Bako Sahakyan and Arkady Ghukasyan. This is completely in line with the current Armenian regime’s whitewashing of its history to blame former administrations for its own failures.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What would you say have been Arayik Harutyunyan’s responsibilities during his tenure?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="august-23">August 23</h3>
<p>Tomorrow is the 32nd anniversary of the declaration of independence of Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the current leadership of Armenia guiding the country vis-a-vis the points set forth in the declaration?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="yerevan-elections">Yerevan Elections</h2>
<p>The Yerevan mayoral elections will be held on September 17. Campaigning will start tomorrow, August 23. There hasn’t been much said and done about the upcoming campaigns in the past week, and last week we talked about the major participants a little bit.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the latest developments in the race for city council, and therefore mayor?</li>
<li>What can we expect from these elections, are they likely to be “free and fair”, given the heavy meddling by Pashinyan’s Civil Contract, and its history of dirty campaigning since 2020?</li>
<li>The election results will likely be seen as a referendum on Pashinyan himself, due to the size of the Yerevan electorate. A third of the country’s voter base is in the capital. What should the opposition do, to ensure that the people who vote for a city leader who can pick up their trash and ensure transportation safety, and other municipal concerns, are not seen as approving of Pashinyan’s policies of giving Artsakh, and Armenian sovereign territory to Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: August 23, Sep 2nd, Artsakh independence.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: The essence and beauty of the Armenian Declaration of Independence, August 23.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Developments around Artsakh
* Kidnapping of People at Checkpoints
* Cases of Starvation, Miscarriages
* UNSC Discussion of Artsakh 
* Lack of a Resolution and Follow-Through
* Armenia’s Diplomatic Failures
* New Artsakh parliament speaker David Ishkhanyan
* Internet Stoppage, Food, Gas, Electricity Shortages
* Continuing Azeri Aggression, troop movements and Buildup
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Armenian News Network Groong - August 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Developments around Artsakh
* Kidnapping of People at Checkpoints
* Cases of Starvation, Miscarriages
* UNSC Discussion of Artsakh 
* Lack of a Resolution and Follow-Through
* Armenia’s Diplomatic Failures
* New Artsakh parliament speaker David Ishkhanyan
* Internet Stoppage, Food, Gas, Electricity Shortages
* Continuing Azeri Aggression, troop movements and Buildup
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Armenian News Network Groong - August 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Developments around Artsakh
* Kidnapping of People at Checkpoints
* Cases of Starvation, Miscarriages
* UNSC Discussion of Artsakh 
* Lack of a Resolution and Follow-Through
* Armenia’s Diplomatic Failures
* New Artsakh parliament speaker David Ishkhanyan
* Internet Stoppage, Food, Gas, Electricity Shortages
* Continuing Azeri Aggression, troop movements and Buildup
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<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        ANN Groong Week in Review - August 13, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Situation in Artsakh
* Yerevan Elections Heating Up
* July MPG Survey Outtakes
* August MPG Survey Outtakes
* Baku Poll
* Thoughts on the Economy
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#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Situation in Artsakh
* Yerevan Elections Heating Up
* July MPG Survey Outtakes
* August MPG Survey Outtakes
* Baku Poll
* Thoughts on the Economy
Episode 273 | Recorded: August 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Situation in Artsakh
* Yerevan Elections Heating Up
* July MPG Survey Outtakes
* August MPG Survey Outtakes
* Baku Poll
* Thoughts on the Economy
Episode 273 | Recorded: August 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="situation-in-artsakh">Situation in Artsakh</h2>
<p>Let’s put this bluntly. A <a href="https://panarmenian.net/m/eng/news/309022">poll in Azerbaijan</a> shows that 67% of Azeris believe that the Artsakh situation will be resolved by the killing of Artsakh Armenians or their displacement. It’s no surprise therefore that over 94% of Armenians polled in July say that Artsakh can not be left as part of Azerbaijan! We will talk more about the polls later in our show.</p>
<h3 id="former-icc-judge-says-its-genocide">Former ICC Judge Says It’s Genocide</h3>
<p>Last week a founding ICC prosecutor, Luis Moreno Ocampo, issued an <a href="https://luismorenoocampo.com/lmo_en/report-armenia/?fbclid=IwAR0shvGGkLtLLmHFwJOrXWHxNbYSrNSo7LbTR9OKx0uNkyhR61kXAHjVbs4">expert opinion</a> in response to Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1116476.html">request </a>and concluded that the Azerbaijani blockade of Nagorno-Karabakh does in fact constitute Genocide.</p>
<p>Of course Azerbaijan has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32542409.html">rejected</a> the opinion, with non-sequitur arguments. Still, over the weekend Armenia requested an emergency meeting of the UNSC, to address the catastrophic situation in Artsakh, where there are now <a href="https://twitter.com/ArtsakhOmbuds/status/1691472374393163776">reports</a> of people dying from starvation.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think such a legal stance can support Artsakh’s bid for self-determination even at this current stage?</li>
<li>Can Ocampo’s expert opinion lead to the UNSC to form a unified position around the issue of Artsakh?</li>
<li>What can we expect from the UNSC, which is itself a somewhat dysfunctional body at this moment, because of the war in Ukraine.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-continue">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, Armenia Azerbaijan negotiations continue. <a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6150020">According to Kommersant</a>, we learned that one <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32544064.html">option proposed by Lavrov</a> was to open the Aghdam road first, followed by the Lachin Berdzor corridor 24 hours later. Reportedly that was rejected by Artsakh , because it would only legitimize the blockade</p>
<p>Moscow had also reportedly proposed for Baku and Stepanakert to hold their direct dialogue in <a href="https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1899422/">Yevlakh</a>, a city in Azerbaijan. Needless to say, Artsakh rejected that idea as well due to security concerns as well as the insistence of Azerbaijan to have “integration” as the topic.</p>
<p>Over the past few days Turkey has started pressuring Armenia and Armenians to agree to Azerbaijan’s terms, by agreeing to supply Artsakh through Aghdam. This would amount to force-subjugating Artsakh’s food and energy supply to Azerbaijan’s whims, at the same time cutting it completely off from Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan registering some modicum of diplomatic success with his truck convoy stuck at the border? Is this why Turkey is speaking up in support of Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="yerevan-elections">Yerevan Elections</h2>
<p>As Artsakh starves, the appetite for control of Yerevan is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32546807.html">simmering</a>. The Yerevan mayoral elections will be held on September 17. Campaigning will start on August 23 and the deadline to submit for candidacy was 2 days ago, this past Sunday.</p>
<h3 id="july-mpg-poll---բադրիջանի-հաջորդ-կանգառը">July MPG Poll - Բադրիջանի հաջորդ կանգառը</h3>
<p>As our guest last week, Sergei Melkonian, mentioned, the July MPG poll indicates a further slide in public confidence in Pashinyan’s party and Artsakh policies.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/mpg-question6.webp" alt="mpg-6"  title="mpg-6" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>MPG Q.6: Is it acceptable to leave Artsakh as a national minority in Azerbaijan?</p>
<p>Question 6 shows over 94% of Armenians polled do not agree with policies to leave Artsakh in Azerbaijan. The public is diametrically opposed to Pashinyan’s policy of willingness to recognize Artsakh as a part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this not a referendum on Pashinyan’s Artsakh and other security policies?</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/mpg-question7.webp" alt="mpg-7"  title="mpg-7" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>MPG Q.7: If parliamentary elections were to be held this Sunday, which political force would you vote for?</p>
<p>Question 7 shows that Civil Contract remains the top vote getting political force in the country, but with a mere 13% of the vote! Two thirds of the population is disconnected from the current political discourse.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your read on this huge voter bloc that is either disenchanted, doesn’t care, or is disgusted with the political climate in the country?</li>
<li>How will such a large, disaffected bloc affect the Yerevan elections?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="august-mpg-poll-on-yerevan-elections">August MPG Poll on Yerevan Elections</h3>
<p>A new poll was released by MPG/Gallup Intl last week on Yerevan elections.</p>
<h4 id="what-is-the-most-important-problem-facing-yerevan">What is the most important problem facing Yerevan?</h4>
<p><strong>Top 10 responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Trash collection 33.4% in Aug 2023 (25.1% in 2022)</li>
<li>Public transport problems 29.0% (37.1%)</li>
<li>Environmental issues/Ecology 17.9% (10.9%)</li>
<li>Inflation 13.0% (13.3%)</li>
<li>Bad condition of roads, traffic jams 10.5% (3.9%)</li>
<li>Unemployment 6.8% (11.1%)</li>
<li>Poor state of the education system 6.6% (5.9%)</li>
<li>Construction of new buildings instead of emergency buildings 5.8% (4.5%)</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/August-2023-MPG-Gallup-Int-Arm-1.webp" alt="Yerevan problems"  title="Yerevan problems" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="is-the-position-of-mayor-of-yerevan-for-you-a-political-position-or-administrativemanagerial">Is the position of Mayor of Yerevan for you a political position or administrative/managerial?</h4>
<ul>
<li>Երեւանի կառավարիչ է / Manager of Yerevan 48.5% - July’23 (58.3% - Apr’23)</li>
<li>Քաղաքական պաշտոն է / Political position 41.5% (37.2%)</li>
<li>Դժվարանում եմ պատասխանել / Difficulty to response 10.0% (4.6%)</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/August-2023-MPG-Gallup-Int-Arm-2.webp" alt="Political or Managerial?"  title="Political or Managerial?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="will-the-elections-to-the-council-of-elders-of-yerevan-on-september-17-will-be-fair-according-to-you">Will the elections to the Council of Elders of Yerevan on September 17 will be fair, according to you</h4>
<ul>
<li>Միանշանակ այո / Definitely yes 16.1%</li>
<li>Ավելի շուտ այո / Somewhat yes 28.9%</li>
<li>Ավելի շուտ ոչ / Somewhat no 19.5%</li>
<li>Միանշանակ ոչ / Definitely no 32.1%</li>
<li>Դժվարանում եմ պատասխանել / Difficult to respond 3.3%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/August-2023-MPG-Gallup-Int-Arm-3.webp" alt="Election Fairness"  title="Election Fairness" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="which-party-do-you-plan-to-vote-for-in-the-2023-september-17-elections-for-yerevan-council-of-elders-top-10">Which party do you plan to vote for in the 2023 September 17 elections for Yerevan Council of Elders (top 10)</h4>
<ul>
<li>Քաղաքացիական պայմանագիր / Տիգրան Ավինյան / Civil Contract (Tigran Avinyan)  9.3%</li>
<li>Հայկ Մարության / Hayk Marutyan  3.7%</li>
<li>Հայաստան Դաշինք / Armenia Alliance  2.8%</li>
<li>Հայաստանի Եվրոպական կուսակցություն / European Party of Armenia  2.2%</li>
<li>Ապրելու երկիր / Մանե Թանդիլյան / Aprelu Yerkir / Mane Tandilyan  2.2%</li>
<li>Լուսավոր Հայաստան /Դավիթ Խաժակյան / Bright Armenia / David Khajakyan  2.0%</li>
<li>Հանրային Ձայն կուսակցություն /Արտակ Գալստյան / Public Voice party / Artak Galstyan  1.4%</li>
<li>Հայաստանի Հանրապետական կուսակցություն / Republican Party of Armenia  1.2%</li>
<li>Հաղթանակ կուսակցություն /Վիկտոր Մնացականյան / Victory Party / Victor Mnatsakanyan  1.1%</li>
<li>Հանրապետություն կուսակցություն /Արտակ Զեյնալյան/ Republic Party / Artak Zeynalyan  0.9%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/August-2023-MPG-Gallup-Int-Arm-4.webp" alt="Yerevan Election Candidates"  title="Yerevan Election Candidates" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="election-developments">Election Developments</h3>
<p>So now a week before the start of campaigns, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcAbQLT8to">around 14 political forces</a> are vying for the mayorship of Yerevan.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hayk Marutyan</strong> has announced officially that he’ll run in Yerevan elections. He’s a former mayor with the Civil Contract party, but he fell out with Pashinyan who canned him.
<ul>
<li>He <a href="https://npp.am/?p=1266">will lead</a> the ticket of the “National Progress Party”, which was formed shortly after the 2018 regime change</li>
<li>The members of NPP are known for their previous participation in Dem Enq, Electric Yerevan, Menk Enk Ter@ Mer Yerkri, Sasna Tsrer rebellion and other opposition movements</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Andranik Tevanyan</strong> has also announced that the Mother Armenia movement will participate in Yerevan elections
<ul>
<li>Tevanyan has recently resigned his position as an MP from Hayastan Dashink, to focus on the election.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Tigran Avinyan</strong>, Civil Contract, who started his campaign at the site of the Surmalu explosion (one year anniversary this week), is the guy that Pashinyan is trying to push as mayor.</li>
<li><strong>Artak Zeynalian</strong> from the Republic Party which is led by Aram Z. Sargsyan, a pro-Nikol force.</li>
<li><strong>Victor Mnatsakanyan</strong>, who was head of the Kentron district in Yerevan during Pashinyan’s rule, will lead the Victory party team.</li>
<li><strong>Mane Tandilyan</strong>, Aprelu Yerkir.
<ul>
<li>She left Bright Armenia for “health” reasons and resurfaced as president of Aprelu Yerkir, which they don’t hide is affiliated with Ruben Vardanyan.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Davit Khazhakyan</strong>, Bright Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Nelly Harutyunyan</strong>, Uzhn Hayrenyants.
<ul>
<li>Backed by oligarch Tigran Arzakantsyan.</li>
<li>Previously they had announced that Arzakantsyan’s wife, Natalia would be running</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Arthur Vanetsyan</strong> from Hayreniq Party</li>
<li><strong>For Social Justice party</strong> also has expressed interest</li>
</ul>
<p>The Parliamentary opposition probably won’t have a unified candidate. Andranik Tevanyan is probably the closest to an opposition figure in the running, but neither Hayastan Dashinq, nor Pativ Unem have indicated their support for Tevanyan at this point.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are you optimistic that this election will be free and fair?
<ul>
<li>Since 2018, opposition figures who have been successfully elected have mostly ended up in jail, while Civil Contract and Pashinyan have campaigned around the country with very heavy security detail (in the thousands), hammers in hand and claiming to smash the heads of opposition candidates.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>A third of the country’s registered voters are in Yerevan. Are these elections going to be viewed as a referendum on Pashinyan?
<ul>
<li>Will this election that is nearly 100% about municipal and domestic issues, - trash collection, street vendor regulations, food safety, traffic safety, policing, etc., - reflect positively upon Pashinyan’s failed Artsakh and foreign policies, if Tigran Avinyan and Civil Contract are elected or forced on people again?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-baku-lets-genocide-em-poll">The Baku “Let’s Genocide Em” Poll</h2>
<p>Let’s talk about a telephone <a href="https://t.me/faeasfokus/678?single">poll</a> conducted in Baku recently by FAEAS Focus.</p>
<h3 id="do-you-believe-in-peace-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan">Do you believe in peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan?</h3>
<p><strong>Responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Yes</strong>: 13.2%</li>
<li><strong>No</strong>: 71.7%</li>
<li><strong>Difficult to Answer</strong>: 15.1%</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="can-the-situation-in-karabakh-be-called-a-blockade">Can the situation in Karabakh be called a blockade?</h3>
<p><strong>Responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Yes</strong>: 61.7%</li>
<li><strong>No</strong>: 29.4%</li>
<li><strong>Difficult to Answer</strong>: 8.9%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/baku-1.webp" alt="baku-1"  title="baku-1" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="what-will-be-the-fate-of-karabakh">What will be the fate of Karabakh?</h3>
<p><strong>Responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Residents will voluntarily integrate into Azerbaijani community: 18.2%</li>
<li>It’s residents will leave to Armenia: 32.3%</li>
<li>Karabakh will be conquered by military power: 26.3%</li>
<li>Karabakh will preserve its independence: 4.7%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/baku-2.webp" alt="baku-2"  title="baku-2" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="what-do-you-believe-will-be-the-true-outcome-if-the-task-comes-to-integration">What do you believe will be the true outcome, if the task comes to integration?</h3>
<p><strong>Responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We will kill Armenians in Karabakh: 42.2%</li>
<li>We will depopulate Armenians from Karabakh: 24%</li>
<li>We will help Armenians integrate into our society: 18%</li>
<li>We will live side-by-side with Armenians: 16.3%</li>
<li>None of the above: 5.7%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/baku-3.webp" alt="baku-3"  title="baku-3" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="who-helps-azerbaijan-the-most-in-the-struggle-for-karabakh">Who helps Azerbaijan the most in the struggle for Karabakh?</h3>
<p><strong>Responses:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Erdogan: 92.6%</li>
<li>Charles Michel: 76.1%</li>
<li>Biden: 72.3%</li>
<li>Netanyahu: 70%</li>
<li>Pashinyan: 67.4%</li>
<li>Zelensky: 57.7%</li>
<li>Putin: 48.5%</li>
<li>Macron: 24.8%</li>
<li>Garibashvili: 12.5%</li>
<li>Raisi: 10.7%</li>
</ul>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/273/baku-4.webp" alt="baku-4"  title="baku-4" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How legitimate is the pollster?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="economy">Economy</h2>
<ul>
<li>What are your impressions from the current cooling down we’re seeing in the economic growth numbers?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Surmalu - one year later</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/273/thumbnail-273.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/273/thumbnail-273.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13418493-hrant-mikaelian-situation-in-artsakh-yerevan-elections-heating-up-polls-in-yerevan-and-baku-ep-273-aug-13-2023.mp3" length="36658512" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3052</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Yeghia Tashjian - Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations | Azerbaijani Propaganda in Shushi | Situation In Artsakh | Ep 271 - July 30, 2023
[EP271]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/271-yeghia-tashjian-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-azerbaijani-propaganda-situation-in-artsakh/</link><pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:15:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13329433-yeghia-tashjian-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-propaganda-in-shushi-situation-in-artsakh-ep-271-july-30-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>271</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian - Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations | Azerbaijani Propaganda in Shushi | Situation In Artsakh | Ep 271 - July 30, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - July 30, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Azerbaijani Propaganda in Shushi
* Situation in Artsakh
Episode 271 | Recorded: July 31, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Azerbaijani Propaganda in Shushi
* Situation in Artsakh
Episode 271 | Recorded: July 31, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Azerbaijani Propaganda in Shushi
* Situation in Artsakh
Episode 271 | Recorded: July 31, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations</h2>
<p>The major news on the negotiations front last week was the meeting between Ararat Mirzoyan and Jeyhun Bairamov that took place under the auspices of mediation by the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.</p>
<h3 id="russian-priorities">Russian Priorities</h3>
<p>Summarizing the developments, over the course of July the total blockade and isolation of Artsakh has continued, and there is now talk about <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32512262.html">famine</a> and a pretty dire situation.</p>
<p>All the major (and also not so major) international players have called on Azerbaijan to open the Lachin/Berdzor corridor: the US, the EU, Russia, France, the UK, Austria and so on. To no avail, of course, because Azerbaijan doesn’t need to listen to these calls when, from the other side of their mouths, they tell Azerbaijan that there will be no consequences or repercussions to its actions.</p>
<p>One thing struck me though, was a <a href="https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1897041/">Russian MFA statement</a> from July 15 that Pashinyan’s recognition of Artsakh as a part of Azerbaijan has “radically changed” the conditions under which the November 2020 trilateral agreement was signed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is being negotiated, and what is important to Moscow, especially given this week’s news?</li>
<li>Is this a radical statement on the part of Russia? Can you help us understand how the Russian MFA is analyzing the existing situation, and unfolding scenarios moving forward?</li>
<li>How does the war in Ukraine figure in the Russian calculations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russian-peacekeepers-post-2025">Russian Peacekeepers Post 2025</h3>
<p>In the past weeks, there have been statements from Aliyev and <a href="https://asbarez.com/erdogan-says-russian-forces-must-leave-karabakh-in-2025/">Erdogan</a> that Russian peacekeepers should leave Artsakh in 2025. There was a quick rebuttal from Moscow basically saying that the matter was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32512025.html">not up to Turkey</a> to decide.</p>
<p>Obviously there is pressure on Russia to exit Artsakh, Armenia, and the South Caucasus. This seems to be the goal of the western-mediated talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Russia responded to Erdogan’s comment swiftly. Have they become irate with Erdogan because of the stance he took in the NATO meeting in Vilnius? Erdogan said he supported admitting Ukraine in NATO, he’s sending MLRS and drone systems to Ukraine to fight against Russia, etc. There are even <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-turkey-grain-export-deal-zelenskiy/32514379.html">reports</a> that Turkey is working with Ukraine behind Russia’s back to export grain. What was the cause of Russia’s unusually strong reaction?</li>
<li>What makes sense for Russia in Artsakh and Armenia? What are the short and long term Russian foreign policy objectives in the region, and how can they best defend them, given Armenia’s current foreign policy? Can Russia find any way to stay in Artsakh post 2025 if the peacekeeping mandate is not extended?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="brussels--moscow-meetings">Brussels &amp; Moscow Meetings</h3>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32511905.html">Reportedly</a> in Brussels on July 15 there was not a lot of progress, at least none that was announced publicly. The main issues being border demarcation, Lachin Berdzor corridor, so-called “rights &amp; security” for Artsakh, Zangezur corridor, etc.</p>
<p>It seems that with the Pashinyan regime’s approval or at best silence, major international powers are increasingly adopting Azerbaijani talking points and that includes Russia. For instance, in his statement afterwards, Michel noted the option of using Aghdam in parallel to Berdzor which Azerbaijan is blockading. Also, his omission of “international mechanisms” for Baku-Stepanakert dialogue, omitting the word “corridor” in discussing Lachin Bedrzor corridor, and effectively endorsing Aliyev’s recommendation to supply Artsakh with so-called “aid” through Aghdam (bypassing Armenia) all point to the EU increasingly pushing Azerbaijan’s agenda on Armenia and Artsakh, and accepting Azerbaijan’s policy of coercive diplomacy.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, while Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32491959.html">keeps reiterating</a> his commitment to peace with Azerbaijan, because <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1115961.html">he said</a> without a peace agreement there will be a new war, Aliyev <a href="https://asbarez.com/aliyev-says-150000-will-be-settled-in-occupied-artsakh-threatens-armenia/">says</a> he plans to settle 150,000 Azeris in Artsakh, so maybe in a few days we’ll see Michel push that on Artsakh as well.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s with Pashinyan’s frequent, repeated commitments to his “era of peace”? What is he communicating with these repeated statements, and to whom?</li>
<li>Was anything achieved in the Brussels summit?</li>
</ul>
<p>Last Monday, Mirzoyan and Bayramov <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32518909.html">met</a> in Moscow. No tangible progress was announced in discussions of the “rights &amp; security of minorities in Azerbaijan and Armenia&rsquo;&rsquo;. This seems to be putting an equal sign between the rights of refugees in Artsakh (such as from Hadrut and Shushi) which are explicitly mentioned in the Nov. 9-10 statement and rights of refugees from the 1990s.</p>
<p>This statement led to rumors that Pashinyan’s government is discussing the settling of Azeris in Armenia by the tens of thousands. The ANCA has also in the past rung alarm bells that USAID is <a href="https://twitter.com/ANCA_DC/status/1630979830496755746">ready to support</a> Aliyev’s campaign to settle Armenia with Azerbaijanis.</p>
<p>Armenian officials <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32522966.html">denied</a> these rumors, and a deputy FM also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32524311.html">stated</a> that Azerbaijan may be throwing up hurdles in the negotiations, because they have designs on Armenian territory, and they don’t want to accept the 1991 borders.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the prospects for Armenia and Artsakh through these ongoing negotiations?</li>
<li>At this point in time what does Russia have to offer, or hope to achieve through these Moscow meetings?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijani-propaganda-and-lobbying">Azerbaijani Propaganda and Lobbying</h2>
<p>As the critical situation in Artsakh becomes even more dire, this weekend Aliyev seems to have pulled off another feat in international propaganda. He was able to invite a group of 250 journalists representing nearly 50 media outlets to Shushi for a so-called “media forum”.</p>
<p>Some attendees reported that all their expenses were covered. While many of the attendees were bloggers or social media influencers, the meeting unfortunately did include some big name organizations, legitimizing the oppression going on just a few kms away from them.</p>
<p>Pro-Azerbaijani Russian journalist Igor Korotchenko was there too and <a href="https://twitter.com/i_korotchenko/status/1683042651711451136">received</a> special applause and thanks from Aliyev.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was coverage of the event picked up by Russian media?</li>
<li>We’ve frequently talked about the fact that Aliyev is able to buy the favors of Russian media and think tanks. How serious is this problem? And what is the trajectory? What is the solution?</li>
<li>The Russian Armenian community has traditionally been reasonably influential, but most recently the Azeris appear to have gained significant advantage and are using it to advance their political interests. Is this a function of the Armenian community becoming more inert? Or the Azeris becoming more activated? Or is it a function of the geopolitics of the South Caucasus leading the local politics in Moscow?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="situation-in-artsakh">Situation in Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="humanitarian-aid-convoy">Humanitarian Aid Convoy</h3>
<p>As the situation in Artsakh deteriorates, this week a special committee that was created by Pashinyan for the purpose of aiding Artsakh back in December was revived. The committee, chaired by a deputy PM, announced that a humanitarian aid convoy carrying 400 tons of aid would be sent to Artsakh.</p>
<p>Ceremoniously, the convoy of trucks was publicized starting their route near the center of Yerevan. There was a large PR effort associated with the cargo, announcing the cargo passing through various waypoints as it traveled to Kornidzor. Special Ambassador at large Edmon Marukyan and Deputy Foreign Minister Vahan Kostanyan were at hand and the latter escorted staff of foreign embassies stationed in Yerevan to the Kornidzor area.</p>
<p>The only problem is that the cargo stopped right on the border near Kornidzor and hasn’t moved an inch for five days. The Azerbaijanis announced that the truck convoy would be seen as a provocation. Even the embassies appeared to know something was up and sent only deputy-level officials. Not a single head of mission appears to have been part of the group. The US, for instance, sent the head of USAID in Armenia as part of the delegation.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What was Yerevan’s goal in organizing this media and PR stunt about sending aid, if it appears that it hadn’t received agreement ahead of time that the aid would be allowed to go through?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="a-checkpoint-for-kidnappings-and-abductions">A Checkpoint For Kidnappings and Abductions</h3>
<p>Not only has Azerbaijan been persistently blocking any supplies via Kornidzor to Artsakh, but on Saturday, they abducted an 68 year old elderly Armenian under false pretenses of participating in crimes during the first war. What is even more egregious is that the individual, Vagif Khachaturyan, was part of a group of people in need of complex medical care, being escorted by ICRC.</p>
<p>Critic of the government Edgar Ghazaryan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WvCRaMIyb8">says</a> that this means nobody who fought in any of the wars, even those that were drafted and even women who may have served government posts in Artsakh would be immune. This would essentially be true even if people decided to use Aghdam for passing through.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where is this all heading? Is there  a way out of this situation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="hayaqve">HayaQve</h2>
<p>This week, the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32487373.html">citizen’s initiative</a> Hayaqve, has reached a critical goal, weeks ahead of the deadline:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/posts/pfbid0r4E8Xyt2L1unSaYoGBK3gUoMEWQRW66Q1VCRRXmvxohAJng7gxrwroWPE9y5UFDZl">As of July 29</a>, 54,800 citizens signed the petition:</p>
<ul>
<li>24,660 in Yerevan</li>
<li>29,380 in regions</li>
<li>760 electronically</li>
</ul>
<p>The petition is still open for joining, in order to ensure there is enough buffer to account invalid signatures.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you vote on this initiative if you&rsquo;re a citizen living abroad&rsquo;? How?
<ul>
<li>See <a href="https://armenia.eregulations.org/procedure/36?l=en">Armenian e-regulations</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Find out more at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hayaqve.am/">https://hayaqve.am/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/">https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Last respects to Lt. Col Ara Mkhitaryan</li>
<li><strong>Yeghia</strong>: Lebanon’s Central Bank Head Gone</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/271/thumbnail-271.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/271/thumbnail-271.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13329433-yeghia-tashjian-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-propaganda-in-shushi-situation-in-artsakh-ep-271-july-30-2023.mp3" length="39328935" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3273</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 270, July 19, 2023
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Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>270</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 270, July 19, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - July 19, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 270, July 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Continuing Azeri Aggression
* Daily shootings, mortar fire
* Constant shooting at farmers in the fields
* Level of hardship
* Level of determination
* Azerbaijan claims Armenians can use road through Aghdam
* Chales Michel welcomes this!?!?!?!?
* “National Movement” Launched on July 14, 2023
* What is the message to the world, and goals?
* HayaQve [(.am)](https://hayaqve.am/)
Episode 270 | Recorded: July 19, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 270, July 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Continuing Azeri Aggression
* Daily shootings, mortar fire
* Constant shooting at farmers in the fields
* Level of hardship
* Level of determination
* Azerbaijan claims Armenians can use road through Aghdam
* Chales Michel welcomes this!?!?!?!?
* “National Movement” Launched on July 14, 2023
* What is the message to the world, and goals?
* HayaQve [(.am)](https://hayaqve.am/)
Episode 270 | Recorded: July 19, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 270, July 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Continuing Azeri Aggression
* Daily shootings, mortar fire
* Constant shooting at farmers in the fields
* Level of hardship
* Level of determination
* Azerbaijan claims Armenians can use road through Aghdam
* Chales Michel welcomes this!?!?!?!?
* “National Movement” Launched on July 14, 2023
* What is the message to the world, and goals?
* HayaQve [(.am)](https://hayaqve.am/)
Episode 270 | Recorded: July 19, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/270/thumbnail-270.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/270/thumbnail-270.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13256685-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-july-19-2023.mp3" length="12805717" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1063</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian - Latest on Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations | Economic State in Armenia | September Yerevan Mayoral Elections | Estimating the War Dead | Hayaqve [.am]
[EP269]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/269-hrant-mikaelian-armenia-azerbaijan-washington-negotiations-economy-yervan-mayor-elections-war-dead-hayaqve/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 18:06:59 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13243555-hrant-mikaelian-latest-on-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-economic-state-in-armenia-september-yerevan-mayoral-elections-estimating-the-war-dead-hayaqve-am.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>269</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Latest on Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations | Economic State in Armenia | September Yerevan Mayoral Elections | Estimating the War Dead | Hayaqve [.am]</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - July 16, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Latest on Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Economic State in Armenia
* September Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Estimating the War Dead
* Hayaqve [.am]
Episode 269 | Recorded: July 17, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Latest on Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Economic State in Armenia
* September Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Estimating the War Dead
* Hayaqve [.am]
Episode 269 | Recorded: July 17, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Latest on Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Economic State in Armenia
* September Yerevan Mayoral Elections
* Estimating the War Dead
* Hayaqve [.am]
Episode 269 | Recorded: July 17, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="artsakh-and-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Artsakh and Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="surprise-brussels-meeting-humiliating-announcement-by-charles-michel">Surprise Brussels Meeting; “Humiliating” Announcement by Charles Michel</h3>
<p>Earlier this week, several days after Aliyev unexpectedly praised Pashinyan, saying that he’s happy with everything that Pashinyan has publicly declared and now he just needs to put all that on paper, we got a surprise announcement that Aliyev and Pashinyan would meet in Brussels on July 15, almost a week earlier than planned earlier. This is all while Artsakh remains completely blockaded.</p>
<p>After the meeting, Charles Michel, president of the European Council and the moderator of the meeting between Pashinyan and Aliyev, made <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkNosyZRBo">an announcement</a> saying that the negotiations were “very efficient”.</p>
<p>Background:</p>
<ul>
<li>Michel repeated the “recognized” territory of each side: 29800 and 86600.</li>
<li>Michel welcomed Aliyev’s offer to send “aid” to Artsakh through Aghdam and said that both Aghdam and Lachin/Kashatagh should be used for supplies to Artsakh.</li>
<li>Michel referred to both the Aghdam route and Lachin route as roads (whereas in the past Lachin was referred to as a corridor)</li>
<li>Talks about exchange of prisoners who have “accidentally appeared on the other side”</li>
<li>The Artsakh side remains un-represented in the negotiations and in fact in a complete blockade.</li>
<li>There was no mention of the ICC decisions about the blockade!</li>
</ul>
<p>In the end, Michel invited Aliyev and Pashinyan to a discussion again at the end of the summer. In the meantime, there may be a 5-way meeting that will be joined by Germany’s Olaf Sholz and France’s Emmanuel Macron.</p>
<p>The reaction from Artsakh didn’t take long. Davit Babayan, advisor to Arayik Harutyunyan, called the announcement from Michel as “humiliating”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your take on this latest round of negotiations?</li>
<li>Is accepting the use of Aghdam to supply Artsakh a trap?
<ul>
<li>Would the EU welcome such a situation if for instance Moscow completely surrounded Ukraine and prevented the west from supplying Ukraine?</li>
<li>Does referring to Lachin as a road indicate Michel’s view of the status of the Lachin corridor and therefore a legitimization of the Azerbaijani checkpoint?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="stepanakert-announces-national-movement">Stepanakert Announces “National Movement”</h3>
<p>Meanwhile, Stepanakert is fighting! Despite the brutal complete blockade instituted by the Azerbaijani regime, a new national movement was announced. It kicked off with a huge rally in Stepanakert, as tens of thousands of people flooded the renaissance square in Stepanakert on Friday in response to the call from Artsakh authorities.</p>
<p>The speeches and actions of the protest seemed to be aimed at all international players who have a stake in Artsakh, including the Red Cross, the Russian Peacekeepers, the Armenian government, the Armenian people collectively including the diaspora and of course other major international players. The protesters then set up tents in the Renaissance square and geared up for being there long-term.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the goal of this protest?</li>
</ul>
<p>While the protest on Friday was attended widely, even by opposition members in Artsakh, it was apparent that the main driving force for it were political forces associated with Arayik Harutyunyan, whose party is the ruling force in Artsakh. The protest also was welcomed by Ruben Vardanyan. In fact, Vardanyan issued a public statement that most directly <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pyoCtM7UEU">accused</a> Armenia’s government, and specifically Nikol Pashinyan for the current situation.</p>
<p>Opposition forces were not visible prominently and some have criticized the rally because there was not enough direct criticism of Pashinyan and Armenia’s policies that have made public statements unequivocally recognizing Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan. Other elements of the opposition criticized that the protest was effectively anti-Russian in nature.</p>
<p>It should be noted that a day before the protest, hero of Artsakh, General Vitaly Balasanyan, who has been constantly vilified in Azerbaijani propaganda, was arrested along with his son by the authorities in Artsakh. He was released today, Monday.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What might be behind the arrest of Balasanyan, and is the timing a coincidence?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-travels-of-armen-grigoryan">The Travels of Armen Grigoryan</h3>
<p>It has been 10 days since Armen Grigoryan has been in Washington DC for &ldquo;intense <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32493702.html">negotiations</a>”. This is a week after Ararat Mirzoyan was there and met with the same officials.</p>
<p>Grigoryan’s formal statements about the meetings say “challenges in the region and the wider region” and “closer U.S.-Armenian cooperation on energy, economy and democracy” were discussed. Jake Sullivan’s office has not commented on the meetings.</p>
<p>Background:
<em>Unconfirmed <a href="https://t.me/smotrkavkaz/115">Russian telegram</a> channels report that Washington and Baku have the following “demands” of Armenia:</em></p>
<ol>
<li><em>Sign a peace treaty before the end of 2023, in Washington DC.</em></li>
<li><em>Armenia accepts 65,000 Azeri refugees in Syunik province.</em></li>
<li><em>Baku will open “some departments” in Syunik to solve security problems for Azerbaijanis who move there.</em></li>
<li><em>Armenia will remove the Russian base in Gyumri by 2026, and replace it with NATO training under the Eastern Partnership program.</em></li>
<li><em>Armenia will give Azerbaijan the enclaves that existed during the USSR.</em></li>
<li><em>Armenia opens the “Zangezur corridor” with international customs organizations.</em></li>
<li><em>Nagorno-Karabakh is given up.</em></li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>But aside from these formal boilerplate statements, what can we deduce is really happening in Armenian-American relations? What is Armen Grigoryan discussing in DC?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="meanwhile-in-moscow">Meanwhile in Moscow</h3>
<p>Zakharova issued a <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/744715/russia-urges-armenia-and-azerbaijan-to-swiftly-pursue-peace-treaty/">statement</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>About Armenia’s recognition: “We respect the sovereign decision of the leadership of Armenia, but <strong><!-- raw HTML omitted -->it has radically altered the fundamental conditions<!-- raw HTML omitted --></strong> under which the leaders of Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia signed the November 9, 2020 statement. <strong><!-- raw HTML omitted -->It has also changed the situation for the Russian peacekeeping troops<!-- raw HTML omitted --></strong> stationed in the region.”</li>
<li>“We believe that under these conditions, the responsibility for the fate of the Armenian population of Karabakh should not be placed on third countries. The preparation of a peace treaty between Baku and Yerevan should begin immediately, based on the agreements reached earlier,” the statement reads.</li>
<li>“We are ready to organize a tripartite meeting of foreign ministers in Moscow in the near future,”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Russia saying that it can’t guarantee the security of Artsakh because Armenia recognized it as a part of Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>At the same time, Aliyev over the weekend in Brussels <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-criticizes-russia-brussels-talks-armenia/32505723.html">sharply criticized</a> Russia for not keeping to the Nov. 9 agreement, and allowing Armenians to send arms to Artsakh.</p>
<p>First, this is either fake news or political jousting. But it seems like both Azerbaijan and Russia are preparing some sort of a status change in Artsakh, as regards to the Russian peacekeepers.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How can Moscow retain a peacekeeping force in Artsakh, post 2025?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="economic-state-in-armenia">Economic State in Armenia</h2>
<p>On July 5th, Pashinyan gave a Constitution Day <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1114746.html">address</a>. In it he mentions the health system, pensions, jobs, etc.  He said:</p>
<pre><code>According to the Constitution of our country, Armenia is a social state.

Since 2018, the minimum pension has more than doubled, the average pension has increased by 22 percent, and the basic pension has increased by 50 percent. Since 2018, 170,000 jobs have been created in Armenia, the salary fund has more than doubled, the average monthly salary has increased by about 57 percent, the minimum salary has increased by more than 36 percent, and the number of health services provided to citizens by state order has doubled.
</code></pre>
<p>He said Armenia is a social state, and Pashinyan says “health services provided to citizens by state order has doubled.” Yet, recent <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32492304.html">reports</a> indicate that maybe the government is not adequately funding these social services.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your experience with the system, and is there a systemic underfunding of health services to citizens?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pensions">Pensions</h3>
<p>Pashinyan says that pensions have more than doubled, average pension has increased 22% and basic pension has increased 50% - and everything is measured against 2018. The latest <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32484109.html">pension raises</a> took effect a couple of weeks ago on July 1.</p>
<p>Not everyone shares this optimism. Our calculations show that just in monetary terms, the total inflation from 2018-2022 has been about 23%. That doesn’t include increases in cost of living. For instance, former Prime Minister Hrant Bagratyan, says that almost all of the growth can be attributed to inflation and cost of living changes.</p>
<p>For reference, the average pension is now 50,000 drams per month. The average salary is 256,000 drams, and the so-called “consumer basket” is 80,000 drams.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are pensioners better off in 2023 than in 2018, what’s the real social story?
<ul>
<li>Have the pensions even been able to keep up with inflation and cost of living changes?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are pensioners living below subsistence level, is there under-nutrition, or poverty in the country?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="jobs">Jobs</h3>
<p>Pashinyan says since 2018 170,000 jobs have been created, average monthly salaries are 57% higher, and minimum salaries are 36% higher.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do those numbers speak of a widely prosperous society in Armenia today? First of all is that 170K number real, and what kind of jobs are we talking about?</li>
<li>Are people truly feeling the prosperity of 57% higher average salaries? Are they feeling richer, and theoretically happier, than in 2018?</li>
<li>Armenia’s <a href="https://www.statista.com/statistics/440668/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-armenia/">GDP has nearly doubled</a> since 2018. Is this prosperity fairly distributed across a wide number of industries, demographics and locations?</li>
<li>Is the minimum salary (75K) a living wage? Have the poverty levels gone down in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Pashinyan government has consistently favored the IT sector, and disregarded the agricultural sector. This year the IT sector was the beneficiary of extensive tax credits, while Armenian farms have been hung out to dry.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain what the government rationale is, with this strategy? Is the vision that Armenian society will work as technologists in Yerevan highrises and eat cheap food imported from Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-economic-indicators">Armenia Economic Indicators</h3>
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Source: <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/armenia/indicators">https://tradingeconomics.com/armenia/indicators</a></p>
<p>For reference, the <a href="https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2023/06/12/pr23205-armenia-imf-exec-board-completes-1st-rev-under-stand-by-arrangement">IMF has assessed</a> the outlook for Armenia’s economic growth positively. <a href="https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/armenia/overview#3">Same</a> with the World Bank.</p>
<p>USAID <a href="https://idea.usaid.gov/cd/armenia">stats</a> on the Armenian economy.</p>
<h2 id="september-yerevan-mayoral-elections">September Yerevan Mayoral Elections</h2>
<p>In two month’s time, Yerevan will be voting to elect a new mayor. These are indirect elections, people vote for political parties, the parties nominate to form the new city council, and the city council appoints a new mayor.</p>
<p>If you ask me, it’s a travesty that people don’t get to vote and elect who they want for president, or prime minister, or mayor, but that’s what it is.</p>
<p>Anyway, last week we discussed where the parties and their candidates stand per the latest MPG poll results. We’ll put the slide in the show notes, but to summarize the poll:</p>
<ul>
<li>Civil Contract candidate Tigran Avinyan is leading the field with 10.1%</li>
<li>Former Civil Contract, and maybe Civil Contract-adjacent Hayk Marutyan has 8.2%.</li>
<li>Hayastan Dashinq’s Levon Kocharyan has 5.3%</li>
<li>All others are under 5%</li>
<li>Nearly 60% are undecided or uninvolved!</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this 60% represent apathy amongst the people, or is it an opportunity for some candidate or another to strike just the right chord with voters?</li>
<li>Hayk Marutyan is <a href="https://www.aysor.am/am/news/2023/06/28/%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6/2112397">may be partnering</a> with David Sanasaryan’s also Civil Contract-adjacent “Sovereign Armenia” party. There are also Mané Tandilyan’s “Aprelu Yerkir” and Edmon Marukyan’s “Lousavor Hayastan” (Bright Armenia) in the mix. How likely is an alliance of all these velvet-adjacent parties?</li>
<li>Is this race wide open, or will “administrative resources” come in at some point and steal the vote?</li>
</ul>
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<strong>Q9: Which party would you vote for in the September Yerevan city council elections?</strong></p>
<h2 id="estimating-the-war-dead">Estimating the War Dead</h2>
<p>It has been nearly 3 years since the signing of the November 9-10 statement that ceased the hostilities in the 44-day war of 2020. The Armenian government has not officially released the specific names of the dead from the war. In fact, we don’t even know the exact identity of the deaths from the mini-war of September 2022.</p>
<p>In the absence of official information, various estimates have been made by academics and analysts. The most recent <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11113-023-09790-2">study</a>, published this week by <a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0966-5837">Ariel Karlinsky</a> from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem &amp; <a href="https://www.orsolatorrisi.com/">Orsola Torrisi</a> from the New York University Abu Dhabi (NYUAD) campus, and the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), uses an interesting methodology, focusing on excess deaths reported by Armenia, Azerbaijan and Artsakh.</p>
<p>According to the results of the study, the number of excess deaths of 18-49 year old males in three countries are approximately <a href="https://twitter.com/ArielKarlinsky/status/1679059041450876929?t=ZMHiFAU0-zeGqUXeNpt3HA&amp;s=19">as follows</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia: 2,800</li>
<li>Azerbaijan: 3,400</li>
<li>Artsakh: 310</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is the Armenian government not releasing the full data?</li>
<li>How far off are the numbers from this study?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="hayaqve">HayaQve</h2>
<p>We continue to remind that if you’re a citizen of Armenia and eligible to vote, then there is a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32487373.html">citizen’s initiative</a> that is worth your attention and signature. It’s called HayaQve.</p>
<p>According to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRN59Vdsk5I">organizers</a>, in two weeks, the movement has been able to get 25,000 signatures.</p>
<p>Find out more at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hayaqve.am/">https://hayaqve.am/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/">https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hrant</strong>: Armavir and other archaeological sites left dilapidated</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Armen Grigoryan’s death in court; Taguhi Tovmasyan dismissed</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong>: Thinking Vardevar, not thinking Artsakh</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Episode 268 | Recorded: July 10, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations</h2>
<p>There was hardly any progress reported by any of the sides two weeks ago in DC. Since then we’ve learned that a month ago in June, Artsakh authorities <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32492198.html">rejected</a> a US invitation to hold Baku-Stepanakert dialog in Washington.</p>
<p>The US agenda for this so-called dialog was evident in ambassador Kristina Kvien’s comments on Armenian Public TV, that Artsakhtsis could live under Azeri rule. Stepanakert <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32492079.html">criticized</a> her for “appeasing the oppressor” and “predetermining the outcome” of the talks. Kvien tried to explain her words, but a lot of damage has been done to her political capital.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Given the current circumstances, what are the available options to the authorities in Stepanakert?</li>
<li>Why did <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32490550.html">Pashinyan call Putin</a> on Constitution Day, July 5, reportedly upon Artsakh president Arayik Hauryunyan’s request? What did they talk about?</li>
</ul>
<p>If a mediator shows even 10% of the pro-Armenianism that the US has recently shown in pro-Azerbaijani one-sidism, Azerbaijan would have walked out of the negotiations. Witness here how much ruckus they are making about France being pro-Armenian, even as France explicitly says that they will not come to Armenia’s military aid in case of Azeri attacks!</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>The US welcomed Aliyev’s threat-laden speech that included the possibility of amnesty if we beg hard enough.</li>
<li>EU’s Toivo Klaar applauded temporary provision of gas that was meant to taunt Artsakh Armenias and hurried to use the term Khankendi (in parallel with Stepanakert). Then he offered regrets as the Azeris shut off the gas again hours later.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is it that the Pashinyan regime continues to negotiate with mediators who are reportedly pressuring them into concessions that degrade Armenian national security and interests?</li>
</ul>
<p>As noted, Azerbaijan does not accept France as a mediator at this point because they consider them “too pro-Armenian”. French FM Catherine Colonna has recently made <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32493862.html">strong statements</a> that any peace accord must contain “firm security guarantees” ensured by “international mechanisms”, but they have also been clear that they can not help militarily.</p>
<p>France is not the only Western power that is not able to help Armenia in military matters. This week, Alen Simonyan announced that Armenia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32489142.html">was denied</a> military aid from a special fund available for boosting EU partners’ defense capacity.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can we unequivocally say that the collective West, for example members of NATO and members of EU won’t be providing Armenia military aid anytime soon, especially as this war in Ukraine continues?</li>
<li>Why is there so little appetite in the west to support Armenians? Is it due to the US’s zero-sum game vs. Russia in the Caucasus?</li>
<li>Is it wise for Armenians, especially those in the Western-funded NGO circles, to present the west as a potential replacement for Russian weapons?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="us-and-armenian-nsc-chairs-meet">US and Armenian NSC chairs Meet</h2>
<p>This past week, following the summit between Ararat Mirzoyan and Jeyhun Bayramov, the US and Armenian NSC chairs, Jake Sullivan and Armen Grigoryan, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32493702.html">met in Washington</a>. Reportedly they discussed “the security situation and challenges in the region and the wider region,” as well as “bilateral relations”. Probably by “wider region” they mean the Ukraine theater, and we also know that James O’Brien, the US official coordinating sanctions on Russia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32482473.html">was in Armenia</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you unpack this for us? What did the NSC chairs talk about? Mirzoyan was there just a week before and met Sullivan. Why so many back-to-back meetings?
<ul>
<li>There was even a comment I read that the Armenian government thinks that relations with the US are reaching a strategic level. To say the least, that seemed a bit odd, maybe deluded, to us.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan announced that the text of the so-called “peace agreement” is not ready for signing. Would the gaps in the peace agreement be something that is discussed at the NSC level? Or do you believe the visit was related more to US-Armenia bilateral relations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="poll-on-perceptions-of-current-affairs">Poll on Perceptions of Current Affairs</h2>
<p>MPG recently polled the Armenian public on a number of issues in current affairs, on the occasion of the half-year mark of the #ArtsakhBlockade. We’ll focus on a few of the questions and results. Check the show notes for the slides and results.</p>
<h3 id="who-is-to-blame-for-the-artsakh-blockade">Who is to Blame for the Artsakh Blockade?</h3>
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<strong>Q1: Who is responsible for the current conditions created due to the 200-day old Artsakh Blockade?</strong></p>
<p>On the questions about who is responsible for the current conditions of the Artsakh Blockade, it seems like people have started to take a “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me” attitude. Six months ago people put greater blame on Azerbaijan, Russia, Turkey and others for the terrible situation in Artsakh, but polls now show a rising perception among the Armenian people that the Armenian government itself is responsible for not doing anything to alleviate the situation after 200 days.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this indicate rising discontent among the people towards Pashinyan’s ruling party? In other polls we’ve seen some of the lowest approval ratings for his Civil Contract party.</li>
<li>So far the Armenian government mostly appeals to other governments, world organizations, and NGOs, and complains about Azeri violations, and it has also filed successful suits at the ICJ. What do people expect the Armenian government to do?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="potential-for-azerbaijani-military-action">Potential for Azerbaijani Military Action</h3>
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<strong>Q4: How likely is an Azerbaijani military aggression against Armenia in coming months?</strong></p>
<p>77% of respondents think that the potential for an Azeri attack in the coming months is high. Yet, as we’ve discussed in many shows, Armenian soldiers either in Armenia or Artsakh die in border shootings almost every week, and Armenia has not done anything about it since the 2020 war to stop or punish such aggressions;  there is no evidence that Armenia is rearming and replenishing its armed forces; there is no evidence that it is making any alliances that can help defend it, in fact the current ruling party has fully alienated its strategic allies and neighbors, Russia and Iran. Meanwhile, the west has explicitly stated that they will not help militarily, in case of Azerbaijani or Turkish attacks.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Poll results indicate that the population has sobered up to the geopolitical realities. What are your thoughts on these results?</li>
<li>How is it that people continue to tolerate the current regime leaving them wide open and insecure, between enemy countries?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="who-will-help-in-case-of-war">Who Will Help in case of War?</h3>
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<strong>Q5: In case of military aggression, which countries could we expect military assistance from?</strong></p>
<p>Regarding who can be expected to help Armenia in case of an Azeri attack, here too the geopolitical climate has settled into people’s consciousness. Six months ago people were still saying things like France, Russia, Iran, America. All of those numbers have dropped precipitously, to 30-40% or less, of the previous levels. Now the largest group of respondents say: nobody will come to our rescue.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>This is some serious sobering up. We’re sometimes accusing the Armenian people of sleepwalking through the political times, or in a deep slumber since the 2020 war, or whatever. But they’re clearly aware of what is going on, and their views have shifted accordingly. Where can these perceptions lead us?</li>
<li>Do you think these shifts can affect future elections?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="changing-armenian-symbols">Changing Armenian Symbols</h3>
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<strong>Q2: Is there a need to change Armenia’s symbols and coat of Arms?</strong></p>
<p>Over the past couple of months Pashinyan has talked about changing some of Armenia’s core symbols. For example, he has dissed our affection and yearning for mount Ararat and said we should care more for mount Aragats; he has proposed changing Armenia’s coat of arms, and so on. As if Pashinyan has no other problems to solve!</p>
<p>The poll clearly indicates a crushing popular disapproval of such ideas.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>It’s hard to not ask: who, or what is the driver behind such idiotic ideas by Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyans-war-testimony">Pashinyan’s War Testimony</h3>
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  <img src="/img/episode/268/mpg-question-3.webp" alt="Trust in Pashinyan testimony"  title="Trust in Pashinyan testimony" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

<strong>Q3: How much do you trust Pashinyan’s recent war testimony in Parliament?</strong></p>
<p>We thought the recent testimony in Parliament by Pashinyan was a well-rehearsed, staged show to propose a narrative that assigned blame for the terrible losses in the 44-day war on everyone except himself. And when we say “parliament”, we mean essentially the ruling Civil Contract party here, because the opposition did not participate.</p>
<p>Apparently we’re not alone, a two-thirds majority of the people responded that they do not trust Pashinyan’s stories.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Could these poll results be considered tantamount to a referendum on Pashinyan’s performance during and since the war?</li>
</ul>
<p>These hearings were prepared and heard by the ruling party, including of course the chairman of the committee on defense and security, Andranik Kocharyan. There is not even a pretense of independence of a war commission. This is the ruling party investigating the ruling party.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can there be any expectations of truth from such a commission?</li>
<li>Is there any hope that the Armenian people will eventually get a true war commission to investigate and report on how Armenia got embroiled in the 44-day war, and suffered the outcome that it did?
<ul>
<li>Note: we discussed a call by Armenian intelligentsia for an <a href="https://armeniacommission.org/">independent war commission</a> two years ago, but as far as we know, no nothing has happened.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="yerevan-city-council-elections-2023">Yerevan City Council Elections 2023</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/268/mpg-question-9.webp" alt="Yerevan mayoral elections"  title="Yerevan mayoral elections" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

<strong>Q9: Which party would you vote for in the September Yerevan city council elections?</strong></p>
<p>The ruling party, with all of its administrative resources in full application, is barely getting 10% for its candidate Tigran Avinyan. He’s barely eking out Hayk Marutyan, who was kicked out of his position and the ruling party by Pashinyan 2 years ago.</p>
<p>The real winner here is apathy:</p>
<ol>
<li>16% - Nobody</li>
<li>13% - Will not participate</li>
<li>30% - Undecided</li>
</ol>
<p>That’s 59% of respondents who are not committed to a known candidate.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>On the surface It seems like the race is wide open. Is it?</li>
<li>What message will these elections send to external observers?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="haya-qve">Haya-Qve</h2>
<p>We are now in the second or third week of the Haya-Qve petition process meant to criminalize the recognition of Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan and the minimization of the Armenian Genocide. So far, about 15K signatures have been collected and the organizers must collect 35K more for the first phase, which is to request that the parliament introduce and vote on this measure. If the parliament refuses, then more 300K more signatures are needed to force a referendum.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Benyamin, what is your opinion about this effort? Should people be worried about this government narrative that if they sign the petition, then war will start?</li>
</ul>
<p>—</p>
<p>This is a reminder that if you’re a citizen of Armenia and eligible to vote, then please go and sign this <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32487373.html">citizen’s initiative</a>. Find out more at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hayaqve.am/">https://hayaqve.am/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/">https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Hayaqve and government media intimidation and fear mongering</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong>: Armenians increasingly perceived as a people with no redlines</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/268/thumbnail-268.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/268/thumbnail-268.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13199552-benyamin-poghosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-us-armenian-nsc-advisors-meet-new-mpg-poll-hayaqve-ep-268-july-9-2023.mp3" length="43575445" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3628</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023
[EP267]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/267-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230707/</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13183124-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-july-7-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>267</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh - Gegham Stepanyan
* Zakharova Confirms Conditions, Calls on Azerbaijan to Drop Blockade
* Hakari video fiasco - Pashinyan propaganda?
* Azeri preconditions to Baku-Stepanakert talks
* ANCA supported NDAA resolutions in US Congress
Episode 267 | Recorded: July 7, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh - Gegham Stepanyan
* Zakharova Confirms Conditions, Calls on Azerbaijan to Drop Blockade
* Hakari video fiasco - Pashinyan propaganda?
* Azeri preconditions to Baku-Stepanakert talks
* ANCA supported NDAA resolutions in US Congress
Episode 267 | Recorded: July 7, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 267, July 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - July 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh - Gegham Stepanyan
* Zakharova Confirms Conditions, Calls on Azerbaijan to Drop Blockade
* Hakari video fiasco - Pashinyan propaganda?
* Azeri preconditions to Baku-Stepanakert talks
* ANCA supported NDAA resolutions in US Congress
Episode 267 | Recorded: July 7, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="catastrophic-situation-in-artsakh">Catastrophic Situation in Artsakh</h2>
<p>Artsakh HR Ombudsman Gegham Stepanyan says that the situation has become “catastrophic”.</p>
<ul>
<li>Stores running out of supplies (including cigarettes)</li>
<li>“Since June 15, we’ve had 0 tons of humanitarian goods”</li>
<li>“Only ICRC is able to transport a small number of medical patients and bring in limited medical supplies”</li>
<li>“Threat of starvation is higher now” than any other time during the 6 month blockade.</li>
<li>Starvation may come in 10 days</li>
</ul>
<p>Maria Zakharova <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1114829.html">said</a> “The humanitarian situation in [Nagorno-Karabakh] is deteriorating. Regrettably we have to note that due to the suspension of supplies the population could be left without food, other essential products and medication.” She called on Azerbaijan to lift the blockade.
<br>
US Ambassador to Armenia Kristina Kvien says the US “believes and hopes” that people in Artsakh can live in Azerbaijan with their security and rights observed. Stepanakert did not take her comments quietly and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32490708.html">responded</a> to her that Artsakh remains on a course to self-determination.</p>
<h2 id="discussion-on-hakari-video-fiasco">Discussion on Hakari Video Fiasco</h2>
<p>Why do Unedited, and Pashinyan-released and edited versions of the videos showing the Hakari bridge shootings yield different conclusions?</p>
<h2 id="azeri-preconditions-for-baku-stepanakert-talks">Azeri Preconditions for Baku-Stepanakert Talks</h2>
<p>Reports that Artsakh rejected an offer to have a Western mediated discussion between Baku and Stepanakert.</p>
<p>Aliyev is demanding demilitarization of Artsakh</p>
<ul>
<li>Arayik Harutyunyan said that Azerbaijan is putting a precondition of demilitarization before negotiations can begin.</li>
<li>Another precondition is that negotiations will be about integration. Only.</li>
<li>Azeri public TV are threatening operation “Revenge-3” (or is it Retribution-3)</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="anca-supported-ndaa-in-congress">ANCA Supported NDAA in Congress</h2>
<p><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2023/07/01/anca-backs-ndaa-amendments-to-save-artsakh-and-sanction-azerbaijan/">NDAA</a> in Congress - 13 different provisions introduced by US congressmen, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Funding for artsakh</li>
<li>Reporting on situation on a monthly basis</li>
<li>Punitive measures against Baku</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/267/thumbnail-267.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/267/thumbnail-267.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13183124-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-july-7-2023.mp3" length="10772377" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>894</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue | Self-Determination for Artsakh | Hayaqve [.am]
[EP266]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/266-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-continue-artsakh-nagorno-karabakh-self-determination-hayaqve/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13162482-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-in-washington-dc-ep-255-july-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>266</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan - Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue | Self-Determination for Artsakh | Hayaqve [.am]</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - July 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Negotiations in DC: chances of progress
* Vartan Oskanian on negotiations
* Rights and Security
* Self-Determination for Artsakh
* Border Demarcation
* No Unblocking or Guarantees
* [Hayaqve.am](https://hayaqve.am)
* Rants
Episode 266 | Recorded: July 4, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Negotiations in DC: chances of progress
* Vartan Oskanian on negotiations
* Rights and Security
* Self-Determination for Artsakh
* Border Demarcation
* No Unblocking or Guarantees
* [Hayaqve.am](https://hayaqve.am)
* Rants
Episode 266 | Recorded: July 4, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Negotiations in DC: chances of progress
* Vartan Oskanian on negotiations
* Rights and Security
* Self-Determination for Artsakh
* Border Demarcation
* No Unblocking or Guarantees
* [Hayaqve.am](https://hayaqve.am)
* Rants
Episode 266 | Recorded: July 4, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-continue-in-dc">Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue in DC</h2>
<p>In the past month, Azerbaijan has fired on Armenian and Artsakh border positions and villages almost daily, and in the past couple of weeks they installed <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113990.html">concrete barriers</a> on their so-called checkpoint on the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, to block all connection between the two Armenian states. Additionally, Azerbaijan’s shootings killed 4 Artsakh servicemen a week ago.</p>
<p>As usual, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32469536.html">Russia</a> and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32472764.html">the west</a> made some toothless statements and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32472394.html">urged</a> Azerbaijan to reopen the corridor, and as usual Azerbaijan simply ignored them.</p>
<p>Authorities in Artsakh <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32480649.html">urged</a> Armenia to stop negotiations with Azerbaijan as long as Baku keeps resorting to violence.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32482245.html">Despite all this</a>, the foreign ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan were <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32482705.html">again in Washington</a> DC this past week for talks mediated in the State Department by secretary of state Anthony Blinken. At the end of the negotiating session, Blinken announced “some progress”, around several more articles of a document that will be called “Peace and Normalization of Relations”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>From a negotiations theory perspective, would it be a good idea for Armenia to heed the call of Artsakh authorities and stop negotiations?
<ul>
<li>If it is important for Washington and other international powers to push forward these agreements, can’t they persuade Azerbaijan to stop killing Armenians, which seems to especially be timed around international meetings?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Azerbaijan’s provocations are essentially terroristic in nature, geared to spread fear, and support its diplomacy of force in the negotiations with Armenia. So despite Armenia continuing the talks, is there any chance for progress, let alone success in the current climate?</li>
</ul>
<p>Former foreign minister <a href="https://168.am/2023/07/04/1895898.html">Vardan Oskanian</a> <a href="https://168.am/2023/07/04/1895913.html">said</a> today that if only Pashinyan would leave diplomacy to expert diplomats, 3 months would be enough to achieve a significantly positive outcome. He said that in order to do this, the logic and narrative of the negotiations must change. \</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe this is possible?</li>
<li>How would you change the logic and narrative of negotiations, starting from the status quo we have today?</li>
</ul>
<p>There are are four major agenda items where the current disagreements reportedly lie:</p>
<ol>
<li>Rights and Security of Artsakh people</li>
<li>Border demarcation details (maps, etc)</li>
<li>Unblocking of communications and transportation in the region</li>
<li>And - who will guarantee that the sides will stick to the deal?</li>
</ol>
<h3 id="rights--security">Rights &amp; Security</h3>
<p>Let’s dive a little deeper into this “rights and security” talk which the Pashinyan regime has put its hopes on.</p>
<p>Empirically, the Soviet years have shown that any existence of Armenians that is subordinate to Baku, no matter how autonomous, has been destructive and ended up in ethnic cleansing of Armenians. We can point to Nakhichevan, which was depopulated of its indigenous Armenian residents during the Soviet regime, and Artsakh itself, which went from an over 90% demographic in the 1920s, to 74% in 1988, when the struggle for self-determination and independence began.</p>
<p>Now, the leadership of Azerbaijan - one that has undergone 30 years of government-sponsored anti-Armenian hate indoctrination - has explicitly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32472713.html">rejected</a> the idea of providing rights and security guarantees to the Armenians of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>When the Pashinyan regime officials repeat the phrase “rights and security”, what do they envision? Can such guarantees even be realized without international presence? Where does Azerbaijan’s direct rejection of “rights &amp; security”, the main thesis of the Pashinyan so-called “era of peace” platform, leave Armenia’s diplomacy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="border-demarcation">Border Demarcation</h3>
<p>Apparently Armenia is not simply OK with using the 1975 Soviet maps as a basis for border demarcations, they actually want to use these maps. Meanwhile, Azerbaijan has so far rejected this, saying that with other countries Azerbaijan has demarcated borders “on the basis of analyses and examination of legally binding documents, rather than any specially chosen maps.”</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does this mean? What does Azerbaijan want, is it basically trying to lock in the current line of contact as the official interstate border, meaning that its current occupation of sovereign territory inside Armenia would become de jure Azeri territory?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="no-unblocking-or-guarantees-discussions">No Unblocking or Guarantees Discussions</h3>
<p>There were no statements or comments made about the third and fourth items, “unblocking” and “guarantees”, so it appears that negotiations in DC sort of petered out.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you expect we’ll see as outcomes from DC?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s government has claimed that one of their main achievements is in returning Karabakh to the negotiating table. Not only do we not see Stepanakert around the negotiations anywhere, but Yerevan is roundly ignoring Stepanakert’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32480649.html">call</a> to stop negotiations.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you see any possibility for Stepanakert’s calls for the OSCE MG to come together, to provide a platform for Baku-Stepanakert dialogue?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="what-choices-does-artsakh-have">What Choices Does Artsakh Have?</h3>
<p>It has been 19 days since the complete closing of the so-called “checkpoint” to even humanitarian supplies.</p>
<p>Reportedly Stepanakert last month <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32487616.html">rejected</a> US-mediated Baku-Stepanakert discussions because the US was pushing Azerbaijan’s “integration” agenda forward. Stepanakert wanted to discuss lifting the blockade and other humanitarian issues.</p>
<p>Pashinyan’s policy that he recognizes Artsakh as Azerbaijan has led to other international actors standing up to support capitulation and abandon the cause of Artsakh:</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>US Ambassador to Armenia, Kvien, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMg8VDPACj0">said</a>, with a straight face, that the US “believes and hopes” that Armenians of Artsakh can live in Azerbaijan with their rights and security guaranteed.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, Josep Borell, the EU Foreign affairs chief, <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2023/06/14/Borrell-Pashinyan/2851421">said</a>: “For the first time, and this may be relevant, Armenia has recognized Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan”</li>
</ul>
<p>Artsakh is totally surrounded and strangled with apparently even Armenian leaders slowly normalizing its abandonment. The mandate of Russian peacekeepers expires in 2 years and Azerbaijan is sending clear signals that it will not agree with a renewal of the mission for another 5 years.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With the facts that we have above, what choices does Artsakh have?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="haya-qve">Haya-Qve</h2>
<p>This is a reminder that if you’re a citizen of Armenia and eligible to vote, then please go and sign this <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32487373.html">citizen’s initiative</a>.</p>
<p>Find out more at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hayaqve.am/">https://hayaqve.am/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/">https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Ukraine’s <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/emaciated-saakashvili-reiterates-innocence-trial-video-link/32487438.html">demand</a> for Georgia to return Saakashvili, and Georgia’s strength to stand for its own national interests.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Civil Contract’s “active remorse” contortions.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/266/thumbnail-266.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/266/thumbnail-266.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13162482-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-in-washington-dc-ep-255-july-2-2023.mp3" length="48146715" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4009</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Anna Abrahamian: The Wagner Group Insurrection in Russia, June 2023
[EP265]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/265-anna-abrahamian-wagner-group-insurrection-in-russia-june-2023/</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2023 00:15:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13157698-anna-abrahamian-the-wagner-group-insurrection-in-russia-june-2023-ep-265-july-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>265</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Abrahamian: The Wagner Group Insurrection in Russia, June 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - July 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian)
#### Topics:
* The Wagner Group
* Special Ops in Russia
* Over at The Ministry of Defense
* A White Russian
* On The Western Front
* Are We Done Yet?
* Parallels with 2016 in Armenia?
* PMCs in Armenia?
Episode 265 | Recorded: June 30, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian)
#### Topics:
* The Wagner Group
* Special Ops in Russia
* Over at The Ministry of Defense
* A White Russian
* On The Western Front
* Are We Done Yet?
* Parallels with 2016 in Armenia?
* PMCs in Armenia?
Episode 265 | Recorded: June 30, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian)
#### Topics:
* The Wagner Group
* Special Ops in Russia
* Over at The Ministry of Defense
* A White Russian
* On The Western Front
* Are We Done Yet?
* Parallels with 2016 in Armenia?
* PMCs in Armenia?
Episode 265 | Recorded: June 30, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wagners-russian-opera">Wagner’s Russian Opera</h1>
<h2 id="the-wagner-group">The Wagner Group</h2>
<p>One of the most riveting events this past weekend was the unexpected bout that Russia had with domestic instability. Tensions between a close, perhaps now former, ally of president Putin, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and the military leadership of Russia boiled to an all out conflict, which Putin called a “mutiny” and “treason”.</p>
<p>Prigozhin is one of the public faces behind a private army called the Wagner Group, which has been instrumental not only in the current war in Ukraine, but also acts as a de-facto, yet unofficial military arm of Russian foreign politics in far away places like Africa, Middle East, etc.</p>
<p>Within 24-48 hours Putin had dealt with the conflict, which is pretty amazing by itself.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the origins of the Wagner Group?</li>
<li>Who is Yevgeny Prigozhin, and is he in charge of Wagner?
<ul>
<li>We’ve heard of other names connected with Wagner, including Lt. Col. Dmitry Utkin, Col. Konstantin Pikalov, Col. Andrei Troshev, Col. Gen. Mikhail Mizintsev but those names aren’t normally mentioned in press.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How does the Kremlin use the Wagner Group?</li>
<li>How is it funded?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="special-ops-in-russia">Special Ops in Russia</h2>
<p>The Wagner Group became engaged in the war in Ukraine fairly early on, and was most famously instrumental in conquering the city of Bakhmut, albeit paying a high price in terms of lost manpower. However, there’s been growing tension between Prigozhin and the Russian defense ministry. Prigozhin has accused the defense leadership of incompetence, bungling the war, and lying to the “Russian people”, which we figured he meant as lying to Putin, to cover it up. Additionally, he has routinely accused the defense ministry for not supplying the Wagner Group with necessary arms to carry out their mission, and essentially throwing his forces to the wolves, defenseless.</p>
<p>The events culminated with Prigozhin announcing a March on Moscow on June 23, in which Prigozhin claimed that tens of thousands of Wagner troops took part in. There were reports of fighting with the regular army and apparently there were deaths on both sides as well as evidence of downed equipment such as helicopters.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe what happened in Russia almost two weeks ago?</li>
<li>Reports vary widely from source to source.</li>
<li>How far did The Wagner Group go, or did they intend to go? What was their intent?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="over-at-the-ministry-of-defense">Over at the Ministry of Defense</h2>
<p>Defense minister Sergei Shoigu and the Chief of the Generals Staff Valery Gerasimov appear to be allies. Gerasimov replaced General Sergei Surovikin, who then assumed command of the operations in Ukraine. Only in the past day, Surovikin has been <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/06/29/1185088717/russia-general-detained-ukraine-commander">detained</a>. There are reports that Surovikin had advance knowledge of the Wagner insurrection.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who are the different camps in the Russian military leadership?</li>
<li>Are Shoigu and Gerasimov on the same page as Putin? Who does Putin talk to, or rely on, regarding the war in Ukraine?</li>
<li>Is Surovikin’s detention the start of perhaps more purges in the defense ministry leadership ranks?</li>
<li>Does Putin trust his military leadership, after these Wagner events?</li>
<li>Prigozhin is reported to be an ally of Aleksey Dyumin, the governor of Tula oblast who has the military rank of general and has experience leading the Russian special forces, and is credited with the operation to annex Crimea. What is Dumin’s role in all of this?</li>
<li>Some claim that this entire operation was a psyop, do you believe that? How so, or not so?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="a-white-russian">A White Russian</h2>
<p>Reportedly, Belarus president Alexander Lukashenko, who personally knows Prigozhin, had a lot to do with brokering the deal between him and Putin. Across the various sources we’ve seen, Prigozhin never directly accused or mentioned Putin himself, so it appears that he was careful to not burn certain bridges there.</p>
<p>As part of the deal, Prigozhin went to Belarus. The Wagner Group fighters were essentially amnestied and to be absorbed in the Russian defense forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Did the two sides need a face-saving option to back down?</li>
<li>Can you discuss Lukashenko’s role here, and how he provided value to both sides?</li>
<li>With Prigozhin moving to Belarus, does the Wagner Group essentially move to Russia?
<ul>
<li>Some have speculated it is being relocated to attack Ukraine from the North.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="on-the-western-front">On The Western Front</h2>
<p>The west was careful to not comment while events in Russia were unfolding, but since the apparent end of events and the striking of the deal, mostly the west has tried to portray Putin as isolated and weakened. On the other hand, some also say that despite everything Putin is still the preferred leader in Russia to hold the reins of the world’s largest nuclear arsenal, because if not him, then who?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Some have suggested that Prigozhin may have been bought out by the west. Do you see any traces of western involvement in these events?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="are-we-done-yet">Are We Done Yet?</h2>
<p>With Prigozhin’s departure for Belarus and the dissolution of the Wagner Group mercenary army, it seems that for now this act of Wagner’s Russian Opera may be over.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is it really?</li>
<li>Where have the Wagner events left Putin? Is he weakened, or strengthened?</li>
<li>Are Russia’s, and Putin’s, domestic troubles at an end?</li>
<li>What can we expect from here on?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="comparison-with-2016-in-armenia">Comparison with 2016 in Armenia?</h2>
<p>Earlier you said that “everyone benefited from this”, including Putin.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Isn’t this appeasement? One of the things that Serzh Sargsyan is criticized for is Was this Putin’s “Sasna Tsrer” moment?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="use-of-pmcs-in-armenia">Use of PMCs in Armenia?</h2>
<p>You mentioned that the use of private military contractors (PMC) is now the norm so to say. Some call them mercenaries. You mentioned that the US popularized their use. France has its “foreign legion”. Turkey makes use of Syrian fighters. Even the United Nations makes use of PMCs.</p>
<p>Yet, the line between PMCs and “mercenaries” is thin. And there is an international convention called the UN “Mercenary Convention” which prohibits the use of mercenaries.</p>
<p>And Armenia has signed and ratified this convention right during the 44 day war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this mean that Armenia has signed away the ability to use PMCs in the future?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>264</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan - Barriers on Hakari | Erdogan in Azerbaijan | Lukashenko at CSTO | Wagner Defused | Pashinyan Testimony | Hayaqve | Ep 264 - June 25, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 06/25/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Concrete Barriers On Hakari Bridge
* Erdogan visit to Azerbaijan
* Lukashenko at the CSTO
* Putin Defuses Wagnerian Opera
* Pashinyan 44-Day War Testimony in Parliament
* HayaQve [.am]
Episode 264 | Recorded: June 27, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Concrete Barriers On Hakari Bridge
* Erdogan visit to Azerbaijan
* Lukashenko at the CSTO
* Putin Defuses Wagnerian Opera
* Pashinyan 44-Day War Testimony in Parliament
* HayaQve [.am]
Episode 264 | Recorded: June 27, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Concrete Barriers On Hakari Bridge
* Erdogan visit to Azerbaijan
* Lukashenko at the CSTO
* Putin Defuses Wagnerian Opera
* Pashinyan 44-Day War Testimony in Parliament
* HayaQve [.am]
Episode 264 | Recorded: June 27, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="concrete-barricades-on-kashatagh-corridor">Concrete Barricades on Kashatagh Corridor</h2>
<p>The Kashatagh/Lachin corridor, the only way to send supplies between Armenia and Artsakh, was sealed tight by Azerbaijan after an incident on the Hakari bridge on June 15. For more than 12 days now, Artsakh remains completely isolated, even Russian peacekeepers in Artsakh can’t bring in supplies. Over the last few days, we received reports that now some food is being flown in on Russian helicopters, but it is clear that this can&rsquo;t be at the June 15 levels, let alone December 11, 2022 levels.</p>
<h3 id="why">Why?</h3>
<p>How did the existing dire situation become even more critical?</p>
<p>One June 15, Armenia shot at Azerbaijanis trying to plant a flag on the side of the Hakari bridge that is closest to Armenia. The Armenian MFA later explained that demarcation and delimitation was not done and appeared to claim that the spot the Azerbaijanis were trying to plant the flag was disputed or Armenian.</p>
<p>Azerbaijan used this as a pretext to completely close the corridor, even for Russian peacekeepers and the Red Cross. To make their point, the Azerbaijani regime installed concrete barriers on the bridge. To this day, it seems that even the restricted pre-June 15 level of supplies and traffic – which consisted mostly of humanitarian aid delivered by Red Cross and the peacekeepers as well as the evacuation and repatriation of seriously sick people – has not been restored. Two days ago, a 1 year old with serious health issues was flown to Armenia by Russian peacekeeper helicopters.</p>
<p>Pashinyan says he accepts 1975 maps. Those 1975 maps that we’ve looked at show that segment of the Hakari river, and therefore any bridge on it, would be in Armenia. Essentially the 1975 maps are the latest maps that are officially delimited and demarcated between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was fighting for that portion of the bridge worth the outcome, its several meters of bridge?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="international-inaction-or-even-worse">International Inaction Or Even Worse?</h3>
<p>We often complain about international inaction on Artsakh, but is it possible that there could be even a worse reaction? Recently, towards the end of May, Aliyev demanded that Armenians of Artsakh must come to Baku and surrender, ask for forgiveness and start talks on how to “re-integrate”. Only then will “the sultan of Baku&rsquo;&rsquo; consider amnesty for them. The US State Department ignored all the rest of the speech, filled with threats from beginning to end, and only focused on the “amnesty” part, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32437133.html">welcoming</a> Aliyev’s so-called “amnesty offer”.</p>
<p>Why is this important? Because it is being widely reported that the US, which previously appeared to be uninterested in injecting itself into the discussions on the status of Artsakh, is now seeking a mediator role between Baku and Stepanakert. This wasn’t received well by Russia where the foreign ministry spokeswoman, <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/06/21/Washington-is-trying-to-force-mediation-on-Baku-and-Stepanakert-Zakharova/950329">Maria Zakharova</a>, stated that the US is trying to force itself into the “discussions” process with Baku. Russian media carried reports that the US was threatening Armenians of Artsakh with military action from Baku should they not accept this offer.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the US agenda?</li>
<li>Does the US want to mediate between Baku and Stepanakert?</li>
<li>Can it even take on such a role? Would the US be willing for instance to replace the Russian peacekeepers.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="erdogan-visit-to-azerbaijan">Erdogan Visit to Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>Two weeks ago newly elected Turkish president Erdogan paid the first visit of his third term in office to Azerbaijan. In a sense the message he sent to Armenia is that Turk business as usual will continue, and get tougher. For example he mentioned that Turkey will establish a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113232.html">consulate in Shushi</a>; this is not the most accessible or centrally located site in Azerbaijan, but it’s a total “in your face” to Armenia.</p>
<p>Erdogan also shuffled his entire cabinet after his election. His Intel chief, Hakan Fidan, is now his foreign minister; and his former presidential spox Ibrahim Kalin is now his Intel chief, Both accompanied him to Azerbaijan. Fidan is an ethnic Kurd, and his doctoral thesis had to do with the “Armenian question”. These are people who have had a certain lifelong “passion” dealing with Armenians and Turkey’s obsession with Genocide denial.</p>
<p>With all this in recent background, Ruben Rubinian, special rep to the Turkish-Armenian “normalization” process, again <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1114133.html">talked</a> about Armenia completing work on the Margara bridge, and his hopes to open the Turkish-Armenian border.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the realistic expectations from this so-called “Normalization” process? Is the government deluded in thinking there’s something in it for Armenia in this process with Turkey?</li>
<li>What will be Erdogan’s major, international priorities, given the current world geopolitical landscape of the war in Ukraine, his strained relations with the US, and the line he’s walking between the west and Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="lukashenko-at-the-csto">Lukashenko At the CSTO</h2>
<p>Last week there was a meeting of foreign ministers of the CSTO in Minsk. Belarus president Alexander Lukashenko <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32468032.html">addressed</a> the FMs, and in one comment he noted that the gripes against the CSTO by member countries such as Armenia and Tajikistan are justified.</p>
<p>The history of CSTO-Armenia relations of the past year has been full of acrimony on the part of Armenia and a lot of nothing on the part of the CSTO. As Lukashenko is a close ally of Putin, the comment was a bit of a surprise.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Has the press overanalyzed a passing comment by Lukashenko, or are there hints of a shifting strategy on the part of Russia (mostly) and Belarus?</li>
<li>How should Armenia respond to this?</li>
<li>Does Russia have enough resources and attention span at present to deal with Armenia’s problems in the South Caucasus?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="putin-defuses-wagnerian-opera">Putin Defuses Wagnerian Opera</h2>
<p>By far the most riveting international development in the past few days has been the attempted mutiny by former Putin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin’s “Wagner Group” private army. The west has been salivating for a coup by Prigozhin, as he accused Russia’s defense leadership of inertia and incompetence and bungling the war in Ukraine.</p>
<p>Anyway, within 24-48 hours Putin managed to defuse the entire affair. Probably significant <a href="https://www.dw.com/en/how-wagner-group-mutiny-became-belarusian-presidents-pr-triumph/a-66029479">credit goes to</a> Belarus president Lukashenko, who managed a deal with Prigozhin to avert a very serious domestic instability in Russia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was your read of these events in Russia?</li>
<li>Is it over?</li>
<li>How can such instability in Russia affect Armenia and the South Caucasus in general?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-gives-44-day-war-testimony-in-parliament">Pashinyan Gives 44-Day War Testimony in Parliament</h2>
<p>Last week, Pashinyan was in parliament and gave testimony on the 44-day war to a select, all-Civil Contract war commission. It sounded like a well-rehearsed deposition that his lawyers had gone through, for a well-fitted narrative that pointed fingers at the military, and allies, for all failures in the war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can an all-ruling party war commission yield truthful findings on a war it lost?</li>
<li>Why isn’t the Opposition participating in these proceedings?</li>
<li>Has parliamentary supermajority undermined Armenia’s democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="haya-qve">Haya-Qve</h2>
<p>Learn more:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hayaqve.am/">https://hayaqve.am/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/">https://www.facebook.com/hayaqve/</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Given that Nikol Pashinyan has absolute supermajority in the Armenian parliament through his ruling Civil Contract party, any opposition effort in the past to make legislative changes has been met with a concrete wall formed by Civil Contract parliamentarians voting in unison to the last member.</p>
<p>Now a group of citizens led by some well-known names, such as <strong>Avetik Chalabyan</strong> from the <strong>Hamakhmbum</strong> movement, are introducing a citizen-initiated effort to amend the Armenian law, through referendum if necessary. The effort will criminalize recognition of Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan and denial or diminishing the significance of the Armenian Genocide.</p>
<p>The process is as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>Upon collection of 50,000 signatures, the measure will go to the Armenian parliamentary agenda, however, Civil Contract can simply veto the measure.</li>
<li>If the measure is not successful, an additional 300,000 signatures must be collected, after which the issue will go to referendum.</li>
</ul>
<p>The process is currently in the 50K signature phase and the movement has <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2023/06/26/HayaKve-signature-collection/2857647">complained</a> that while the CEC (led by a Pashinyan loyalist) has approved the measure, various municipalities are obstructing the effort by refusing to provide facilities for signature collection.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is it important to sign?</li>
<li>Who can sign?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Why did Pashinyan gov decide to shoot at the Hakari bridge?</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong>: Artsakh blockaded for 197 days, a shame on our nation</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/264/thumbnail-264.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/264/thumbnail-264.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13127073-tevan-poghosyan-barriers-on-hakari-erdogan-in-azerbaijan-lukashenko-at-csto-wagner-defused-pashinyan-testimony-hayaqve.mp3" length="46923841" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3907</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 263, June 15, 2023
[EP263]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/263-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230615/</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13048698-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-june-15-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>263</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 263, June 15, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - June 15, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 263, June 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Blocks Lachin/Berdzor Corridor after Shootings near Hakari bridge
* Has Artsakh “returned to the negotiation table”?
* International actions viewed from Stepanakert
* Noting the half-year mark of the blockade
* Artsakh Ombuds Report summary
Episode 263 | Recorded: June 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 263, June 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Blocks Lachin/Berdzor Corridor after Shootings near Hakari bridge
* Has Artsakh “returned to the negotiation table”?
* International actions viewed from Stepanakert
* Noting the half-year mark of the blockade
* Artsakh Ombuds Report summary
Episode 263 | Recorded: June 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 263, June 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Blocks Lachin/Berdzor Corridor after Shootings near Hakari bridge
* Has Artsakh “returned to the negotiation table”?
* International actions viewed from Stepanakert
* Noting the half-year mark of the blockade
* Artsakh Ombuds Report summary
Episode 263 | Recorded: June 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijan-blocks-corridor-checkpoint-after-shootings">Azerbaijan Blocks Corridor Checkpoint after Shootings</h2>
<p>Today Azerbaijan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113331.html">banned</a> all humanitarian passenger and cargo through the Lachin Corridor, following shootings near the Hakari bridge that injured soldiers on both sides.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the status?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="has-artsakh-returned-to-the-negotiation-table">Has Artsakh “returned to the negotiation table”?</h2>
<p>Pashinyan’s government is touting its Artsakh policy, that they have returned Artsakh to the negotiations table.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there any evidence in Stepanakert that Nagorno Karabakh is at the table?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="international-actions-viewed-from-stepanakert">International actions viewed from Stepanakert</h2>
<p>The European parliament held a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113068.html">discussion</a> about the blockade. In the US, Rep. Adam Schiff <a href="https://asbarez.com/schiff-urges-biden-to-defend-democracy-and-human-rights-in-armenia-and-artsakh/">wrote</a> to Biden, urging him to act quickly to help Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the view from Stepanakert of such activities, let’s say including the ICJ ruling back in February, ordering Azerbaijan to cease and desist from the blockade?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="noting-the-half-year-mark-of-the-blockade">Noting the half-year mark of the blockade</h2>
<p>This week was the half year mark since Azerbaijan cruelly blockaded Artsakh from the outside world.</p>
<p>This week  the Artsakh ombudsman’s office published its <a href="https://artsakhombuds.am/en/document/1028">updated report</a> of human rights violations against Artsakh citizens, including data from the blockade so far. Some of the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113078.html">main points</a> include, and this is just a very high level summary, you can check the links in our show notes to find the actual data:</p>
<ul>
<li>Vastly reduced movement of passengers and goods between Artsakh and Armenia; and when we say “vastly” we’re talking about an over 99% reduction here, not a reduction of a few percentage points.</li>
<li>Vastly diminished economic activity</li>
<li>Vastly increased joblessness and job loss.
<ul>
<li>Job loss is estimated at over 11,000 jobs, and we’re talking here about a country of about 150,000 reduced now to 120,000. Assuming a 50% labor size of 60,000 people, this means that approximately 1 person in 6 lost their job and livelihood.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>No gas for 4 months straight.</li>
<li>No electricity from outside for over 5 months straight.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the experience of daily life?</li>
<li>How is the common Artsakh citizen surviving this calamity day in and day out?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP262]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/262-erdogan-cabinet-azerbaijan-postpones--economy-pashinyan-rating/</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:06:59 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13033385-erdogan-cabinet-azerbaijan-postpones-economy-pashinyan-rating-ep-262-june-11-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>262</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Erdogan Cabinet | Azerbaijan Postpones Meeting | Economic Developments | MPG Poll on Pashinyan Rating</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - June 11, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Erdogan Reshuffles Cabinet, First Visit to Baku
* Latest Developments in Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations, Baku Postpones
* Economic Developments, More Subsidies to IT Sector
* MPG Poll: Pashinyan's Rating is Falling
Episode 252 | Recorded: June 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Erdogan Reshuffles Cabinet, First Visit to Baku
* Latest Developments in Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations, Baku Postpones
* Economic Developments, More Subsidies to IT Sector
* MPG Poll: Pashinyan's Rating is Falling
Episode 252 | Recorded: June 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Erdogan Reshuffles Cabinet, First Visit to Baku
* Latest Developments in Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations, Baku Postpones
* Economic Developments, More Subsidies to IT Sector
* MPG Poll: Pashinyan's Rating is Falling
Episode 252 | Recorded: June 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="turkish-cabinet-appointments">Turkish Cabinet Appointments</h1>
<p>The elections in Turkey are over. We’re looking to do a deeper dive into this topic with a turkologist, but Hrant, since it&rsquo;s fresh on our mind…</p>
<p>Erdogan’s first visit will be to Azerbaijan btw.</p>
<ul>
<li>Turkey
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/columns/hakan-fidan-the-chief-diplomat-of-turkiye">Hakan Fidan</a>, former MIT chief, appointed FM
<ul>
<li>Used the Ottoman <a href="https://twitter.com/amberinzaman/status/1665639453598142464/history">term</a> for foreign ministry in his speech Harciye versus Dışişleri</li>
<li>Is being groomed as replacement for Erdogan</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Ibrahim Kalin, former Erdogan spox, appointed intel chief
<ul>
<li>I believe his thesis was on relations with Armenia</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you think Turkish policy will shift during Erdogan’s third term?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-contd">Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Cont’d</h1>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-postpones-washington-meetings">Azerbaijan Postpones Washington Meetings</h3>
<p>This week was marked with continuing tensions on the border and shootings in Artsakh. Azerbaijan postponed a scheduled meeting of the foreign ministers in Washington DC, which was due to take place today, June 12th. Instead Azerbaijani FM Jeyhun Bayramov presented new <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/764078.html">reasons</a> why Azerbaijan is not signing a peace agreement with Armenia:</p>
<ol>
<li>Alleged Armenian military presence in Nagorno Karabakh;</li>
<li>Armenia “hindering” talks between Baku and Stepanakert;</li>
<li>Armenia “smearing” Azerbaijan internationally.</li>
</ol>
<p>Pashinyan aide Arsen Torosyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32448944.html">brushed aside</a> these excuses. The US ambassador to the OSCE, Michael Carpenter, also <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/764194.html">responded</a> to Bayramov, saying that the US believes that peace can only be achieved through dialog and mutual understanding. He also mentioned that Nagorno Karabakh should be provided with gas and electricity, although he didn’t say who should provide this, and also said that free movement of good and people should resume “including through the Lachin corridor”.</p>
<p>There are also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1113052.html">reports</a> today that Azerbaijan may have postponed the meeting at the request of incoming Turkish foreign minister Hakan Fidan. This week Erdogan will visit Azerbaijan, and it is expected that the two countries will realign their coordinated strategies against Armenia, as Erodgan’s third term as president begins.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think are the reasons for Azerbaijan postponing the meeting in Washington?</li>
<li>What can we guess as being the current hurdles in the negotiations, from Bayramov’s excuses?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="border-negotiations">Border Negotiations</h2>
<p>Last week we discussed how Pashinyan was signaling to Azerbaijan that the 1975 Soviet maps are an acceptable basis for border negotiations. We were surprised because these maps are not at all advantageous for Armenia, so we were wondering what Azerbaijan’s position was. Azerbaijan <a href="https://mfa.gov.az/en/news/no30423">rejected</a> this.</p>
<p>It turns out that the Azeri <a href="https://twitter.com/ultra_ehsan/status/1666064560283869184">press</a> is discussing the treaty of Batumi or Alexandropol, or even worse, the ridiculous claims of Baku in 1920 which lay claim to Southern Armenia and even 50% of lake Sevan.</p>
<p>As we know, during these past 3 years, Azerbaijan and Turkey have also officially welcomed irredentist movements like West Azerbaijan, Zangezur - Goycha Republic, etc… to be set up.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Clearly there’s no agreement on “maps”. Are border negotiations stalled?</li>
</ul>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>We know that Azerbaijan’s declaration of independence mentions that it is descendant of the 1918 “Azerbaijan Democratic Republic” and not USSR</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="economic-developments">Economic Developments</h1>
<h2 id="government-subsidies-for-it">Government Subsidies for IT</h2>
<p>The Armenian government has decided to <a href="https://hetq.am/hy/article/157004">reduce</a> the taxes for the IT sector from 20% to just 5%.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a sound policy?</li>
<li>Who is benefiting from this tax policy?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="western-sanctions-on-russia-affecting-armenia">Western Sanctions on Russia Affecting Armenia</h2>
<p>As we know, Russia has been heavily sanctioned by the west since the war in Ukraine. Armenia has remained largely unscathed by these sanctions until recently. The US <a href="https://civil.ge/archives/547163">called out</a> a number of countries for evading sanctions; mentioned were: Turkey, Kazakhstan, Georgia, the United Arab Emirates, and Armenia. Not mentioned: Azerbaijan, which is diverting Russian oil products and gas to Europe! We’re not talking a few millions here, like for Armenia, but rather billions with a B, in the case of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>This is the type of selective and arbitrary favoritism which undermines the west’s credibility with Armenians.</p>
<p>Anyway, so far two Armenian companies have been affected, The government has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32449231.html">tightened control</a> on re-exporting of dozens of types of electronics products to Russia. And this week, Armenian banks began to <a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6028993">block transactions</a> with certain Russian companies that import material from Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How serious is the US pressure, especially (in absence of pressure on Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What effect will this have on Russia-Armenia trade?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="new-anpp-discussions">New ANPP Discussions</h2>
<p>One topic that may have been discussed in Sochi, when Pashinyan met with Russian PM Mikhail Mishustin, was the Russian proposals for building a new Nuclear Power Plant for Armenia (ANPP). Russia is proposing a 1200 MW reactor, while the US has proposed <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32450621.html">modular-reactors for Armenia</a>, on the scale of 465 MW.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>One of the major considerations in deciding what type of NPP to acquire is the economic one. Can Armenia find a big enough distribution market? for the electricity it might generate?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="new-mpg-poll">New MPG Poll</h1>
<p>Results of a new poll were released by MPG.</p>
<p>Conducted between 27.05.2023-31.05.2023.</p>
<p>Sample size: 1100</p>
<p>Margin: +- 3%</p>
<p>As a summary, this poll again indicates a deep divide between the policy of the Nikol Pashinyan regime and sentiments of the Armenian public.</p>
<p>But let’s dive into the details, maybe not everything is so apparent.</p>
<h3 id="policies-on-status-of-artsakh">Policies on Status of Artsakh</h3>
<p>The first two questions tease out the public sentiment towards the policy of the Pashinyan regime on the status of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Question1</strong>: Nikol Pashinyan declared he recognizes Azerbaijan/s 86600 sq km., how would you react to this:</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question01.webp" alt="Policies on Status of Artsakh"  title="Policies on Status of Artsakh" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Very positive: 3.8%</li>
<li>Somewhat positive: 5.4%</li>
<li>Somewhat negative: 18.5%</li>
<li>Very negative: 63.4%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 8.9%</li>
<li><strong>Summary</strong>: 9.2% Positive, 72.3% Negative</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question2</strong>: On Artsakh’s status in Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question02.webp" alt="On Artsakh’s status in Azerbaijan"  title="On Artsakh’s status in Azerbaijan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Նիկոլ Փաշինյանի հայտարարությունից հետո պարզ դարձավ, որ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի որեւէ կարգավիճակ բացառվում է Ադրբեջանի կազմում: Առավելագույնը կարելի է խոսել Ադրբեջանում բնակվող հայերի իրավունքների եւ անվտանգության մասին: Ըստ Ձեզ հնարավո՞ր է Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի հայության գոյատեւումը Ադրբեջանի կազմում որպես ազգային փոքրամասնություն</li>
<li>English: After Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s statement, it became clear that any status of Nagorno Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan is excluded. At most, one can talk about the rights and security of Armenians living in Azerbaijan. In your opinion, is it possible for the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh to survive as a national minority in Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Definitely possible: 2.8%</li>
<li>Somewhat possible: 5.6%</li>
<li>Somewhat impossible: 8.7</li>
<li>Definitely impossible: 77.7</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 5.1</li>
<li><strong>Summary</strong>: 8.4% Possible, 86.4% Impossible</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>So with nearly 90% of Armenians saying that it is impossible for Artsakh to be part of Azerbaijan, how is this regime planning on implementing its policy which has been expressed unequivocally by Pashinyan, Simonyan, and others?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="confidence-in-government">Confidence in Government</h2>
<p><strong>Question 6</strong>: Need for elections</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question06.webp" alt="Need for elections"  title="Need for elections" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Հաշվի առնելով Հայաստանի Հանրապետության ներքաղաքական եւ արտաքին մարտահրավերները, արդյո՞ք անհրաժեշտ է իրականացնել արտահերթ խորհրդարանական ընտրություններ եւ ձեւավորել նոր կառավարություն</li>
<li>English: Considering the internal political and external challenges of the Republic of Armenia, is it necessary to hold early parliamentary elections and form a new government?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Very necessary: 41.0%</li>
<li>Somewhat necessary: 18.9%</li>
<li>Somewhat unnecessary: 12.2%</li>
<li>Completely unnecessary: 19.5%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 8.5%</li>
<li><strong>Summary</strong>: Necessary: 59.9%, Unnecessary: 31.7%</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 12</strong>: Rating of the Prime Minister</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question12.webp" alt="Rating of the Prime Minister"  title="Rating of the Prime Minister" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Գնահատեք ՀՀ վարչապետ Նիկոլ Փաշինյանի գործելաոճը</li>
<li>English: Evaluate the working style of RA Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Completely positive: 5.4% (2021: 9.5%, 2019: 29.9%, 2018: 45.4%)</li>
<li>Somewhat positive: 13.4% (2021: 28.6%, 2019: 54.3%, 2018: 46.2%)</li>
<li>Somewhat negative: 24.2% (2021: 14.9%, 2019: 8.2%, 2018: 3.9%)</li>
<li>Completely negative: 47.1% (2021: 31.3%, 2019: 5.1%, 2018: 2.4%)</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 10.0% (2021: 15.8%, 2019: 2.4%, 2018: 2.1%)</li>
<li><strong>Summary</strong>: Positive: 18.8%, Negative: 71.3%</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="east-vs-west">East vs. West</h2>
<p><strong>Question 3</strong>: EU Mission</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question03.webp" alt="EU Mission"  title="EU Mission" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Ինչպե՞ս եք գնահատում ԵՄ դիտորդական առաքելության առկայությունը ՀՀ-ում</li>
<li>English: How do you assess the presence of the EU observation mission in Armenia?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Very positive: 14.8% (down from 36.8 in Jan’ 23)</li>
<li>Somewhat positive: 29.4% (31.6)</li>
<li>Somewhat negative: 18.5% (13.7)</li>
<li>Very negative: 29.9% (14.0)</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 7.5% (3.8)</li>
<li><strong>Summary</strong>: Positive: 44.2% (68.4%), Negative: 48.4% (27.7%)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 5</strong>: Pashinyan’s relations with external powers</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question05.webp" alt="Pashinyan’s relations with external powers"  title="Pashinyan’s relations with external powers" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Հետեւյալ դատողություններից ո՞րի հետ եք Դուք համաձայն</li>
<li>English: Which of the following statements do you agree with?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Nikol Pashinyan is trying to maintain balance politics with the West and Russia 32.8%</li>
<li>Nikol Pashinyan is trying to integrate Armenia European, Western and NATO frameworks 20.5%</li>
<li>Nikol Pashinyan aims to bring Armenia closer to Azerbaijan and Turkey 14.7%</li>
<li>Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s actions are directed outward to push Russia&rsquo;s presence out of Armenia 12.9%</li>
<li>Difficult to Answer 19.0%</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>We see a significant drop in trust in EU monitors, but also a significant number of people, 32.8%, still think that Pashinyan is trying to balance relations between West and Russia? Only 12.9% of people think that Pashinyan’s actions are intended to push Russia out of the region. Are these two answers contradicting each other?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="others-questions">Others Questions</h2>
<p><strong>Question 4</strong>: Gayane Hakobyan</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question04.webp" alt="Gayane Hakobyan"  title="Gayane Hakobyan" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Մայիսի 17-ին միջադեպ գրանցվեց զոհված զինծառայող Ժորա Մարտիրոսյանի մոր՝ Գայանե Հակոբյանի եւ Նիկոլ Փաշինյանի որդու միջեւ: Արդյունքում տիկին Գայանեն կալանավորվել է 1 ամսով: Ըստ Ձեզ, որքանո՞վ է այդ որոշում արդարացի</li>
<li>English: On May 17, an incident was registered between Gayane Hakobyan, the mother of the fallen soldier Zhora Martirosyan, and Nikol Pashinyan&rsquo;s son. As a result, Ms. Gayane was detained for 1 month. In your opinion, how fair is that decision?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Completely justified: 8.7</li>
<li>Somewhat justified: 9.2</li>
<li>More or less unjustified: 18.5</li>
<li>Completely unjustified: 54.0</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 9.6</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 7</strong>: Nemesis sculpture</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question07.webp" alt="Nemesis Sculpture"  title="Nemesis Sculpture" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Թուրքիան իր դժգոհությունը հայտնեց Երեւանում Նեմեսիսի արձանի տեղադրման կապակցությամբ եւ որպես առաջին քայլ սահմանափակեց հայկական ինքնաթիռների թռիչքը իր տարածքի վրայով: Ի՞նչ եք կարծում, պետք է արդյոք ՀՀ կամ քաղաքային իշխանությունները տուրք տան Թուրքիայի ճնշումներին եւ ապամոնտաժեն Նեմեսիսի հերոսներին նվիրված հուշարձանը</li>
<li>English: Turkey expressed its dissatisfaction with the installation of the Nemesis statue in Yerevan and as a first step restricted the flight of Armenian planes over its territory. What do you think, should RA or the city authorities pay tribute to Turkey&rsquo;s pressure <del>oppression</del> and dismantle the monument dedicated to the heroes of Nemesis?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Definitely no: 82.5%</li>
<li>Somewhat no: 8.7%</li>
<li>Somewhat yes: 3.5%</li>
<li>Definitely yes: 2.6%</li>
<li>Difficult to answer: 3.5%</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 8</strong>: Participation in “revolution”</p>
<p>![Participation in &ldquo;revoluion&rdquo;](/img/episode/262/mpg-question08.webp &ldquo;Particpation in &lsquo;revolution&rsquo;&rdquo;</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Ասացեք խնդրեմ, մասնակցե՞լ եք արդյոք 2018թ.-ի հեղափոխությանը</li>
<li>English: Tell me, please, did you participate in the revolution of 2018?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Yes: 37.4% (down from 91% in 2018)</li>
<li>No: 62.6% (up from 9% in 2018)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 9</strong>: What kind of participation in revolution</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/262/mpg-question09.webp" alt="What kind of participation in revolution?"  title="What kind of participation in revolution?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Ի՞նչ կերպ եք մասնակցել հեղափոխությանը (Մի քանի պատասխան)</li>
<li>English: How did you participate in the revolution (Multiple answers)</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>I participated in rallies in Yerevan  46.5%</li>
<li>I followed/am following on Facebook 42.1%</li>
<li>I participated in rallies in my city…  32.8%</li>
<li>I closed roads and intersections  28.2%</li>
<li>I went on strike  13.6%</li>
<li>I honked in the car horn 12.4%</li>
<li>I went on strike  12.2%</li>
<li>I participated in the action of ladles  4.4%</li>
<li>I watched in on TV 2.9%</li>
<li>Other: 1.0%</li>
<li>I find it difficult to answer 0.2%</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question 11</strong>: Expectations from Velvet Revolution</p>
<p>![Expectations from &ldquo;Velvet Revolution&rdquo;](/img/episode/262/mpg-question05.webp &ldquo;Expectations from ;Velvet Revolution&rsquo;&rdquo;]</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian: Թավշյա հեղափոխությունից անցել է 5 տարի: Այս ընթացքում որքանո՞վ արդարացան անձամբ Ձեր սպասումները</li>
<li>English: 5 years have passed since the Velvet Revolution. To what extent were your expectations met during this period?</li>
<li>Answers:
<ul>
<li>Completely met: 3.8% (2021: 3.2%, 2019: 6.6%, 2018: 14.4%)</li>
<li>Somewhat met: 21.5% (2021: 33.7%, 2019: 61.4%, 2018: 64.2%)</li>
<li>Somewhat unmet: 18.0% (2021: 10.2%, 2019: 11.4%, 2018: 7.6%)</li>
<li>Completely unmet: 52.1% (2021: 46.0%, 2019: 18.3%, 2018: 10.9%)</li>
<li>Difficult to Answer: 4.6% (2021: 7.0%, 2019: 2..3%, 2018: 3.0%)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP261]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/261-hagop-djernazian-jerusalem-armenian-patriarchate-land-lease-angers-community/</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:16:54 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/13016491-hagop-djernazian-questionable-99-year-land-lease-by-the-armenian-patriarchate-in-jerusalem-ep-261-june-11-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Katia Peltekian,
Asbed Bedrossian,
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>261</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Armenian Patriarchate Land Lease Angers Worldwide Community | Ep. 261 - June 11, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - June 11, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Armenian Patriarchate Land Lease Angers Worldwide Community
#### Guest:
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Armenians in Jerusalem
* Escalating violence on Armenians
* Intro to the Armenian Patriarchate
* On the contract of the 99-year lease and its consequences
* About the community protest movement
* What if the contract goes forward?
Episode 261 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 11 2023</itunes:summary><description>Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Armenian Patriarchate Land Lease Angers Worldwide Community
#### Guest:
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Armenians in Jerusalem
* Escalating violence on Armenians
* Intro to the Armenian Patriarchate
* On the contract of the 99-year lease and its consequences
* About the community protest movement
* What if the contract goes forward?
Episode 261 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 11 2023</description><googleplay:description>Hagop Djernazian - Jerusalem Armenian Patriarchate Land Lease Angers Worldwide Community
#### Guest:
* [Hagop Djernazian](/guest/hdjernazian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Armenians in Jerusalem
* Escalating violence on Armenians
* Intro to the Armenian Patriarchate
* On the contract of the 99-year lease and its consequences
* About the community protest movement
* What if the contract goes forward?
Episode 261 | Recorded on Wednesday, June 11 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="intro-to-armenians-in-jerusalem">Intro to Armenians in Jerusalem</h2>
<p>Hagop, many of us do not know the actual history of the Armenian presence in Jerusalem and about the Armenian quarter, can you give us a brief history of how the Armenian quarter came to be?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the Armenian population in Jerusalem?</li>
<li>What exactly is the GOVEROO BARDEZ? How big is it?</li>
</ul>
<p>We’ve read reports of the occasional spitting on Armenian priests, and this year we’ve also witnessed attacks on the Armenian church and on an Armenian business.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How are the relations between the Armenians and Israelis?</li>
<li>Why are these hate crimes increasing in frequency in Jerusalem?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="intro-to-the-armenian-patriarchate-of-jerusalem">Intro to the Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem</h2>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the Patriarch of Jerusalem appointed or elected? What is the process?</li>
<li>Is the Patriarchate of Jerusalem autonomous of Etchmiadzin, or Antelias?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="a-troubled-lease">A Troubled Lease</h2>
<p>So now we come to the contract with which the Patriarchate has reportedly granted a 99-year lease for Goveroo Bardez, to an Israeli company that is allegedly going to build a hotel there.</p>
<p>Two years ago, right after COVID, rumors spread that a deal was signed, and the Palestinian Moslem-Christian coalition (?) met with the Armenian community to condemn the land sale.</p>
<p>The Armenians are also concerned that the contract includes more than the Goveroo Bardez.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Have you seen the contract?</li>
<li>What do we know about the contract in question? What was signed, or what was promised to whom, and by whom?</li>
</ul>
<p>The news then died down until a few weeks ago, when more information went around that the Israeli company was actually planning to build luxury condos and not a hotel, on the land.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What happened between these two events?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Patriarch has started backpedaling, and is claiming that he was not aware of what the contract entailed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about this specific aspect of the controversy? What has been the involvement of the patriarch in this deal?</li>
<li>What does it mean that the King of Jordan and the President of the Palestinian authorities have withdrawn their recognition of the Patriarch?</li>
<li>What about Echmiadzin? Has the leadership in Echmiadzin voiced their opinion on what is transpiring?</li>
</ul>
<p>Regardless of legal proceedings and the technicalities of the contract, it is evident that there is a large deficit of trust by not only the Armenian community in the Holy Land, but many other groups as well.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a situation that would call for the Patriarch to resign?</li>
<li>Why hasn’t the Patriarch been asked to resign?</li>
<li>Is there a process of impeaching a patriarch?</li>
</ul>
<p>Now the Armenians of Jerusalem have been demonstrating every week.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How did the movement start?</li>
<li>Who is organizing  these demonstrations?</li>
<li>What can you tell us about the current movement?</li>
<li>What do you hope to achieve?</li>
<li>Can the contract be revoked, and do you have lawyers helping you with legal matters?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="maps-of-jerusalem">Maps of Jerusalem</h2>
<p>The following maps were provided by Hagop Djernazian. Thanks to Hagop!</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-1.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem 1"  title="Map of Jerusalem 1" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem 1</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-2.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem 2"  title="Map of Jerusalem 2" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem 2</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-with-Legend-3.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem 3, with Legend"  title="Map of Jerusalem 3 with Legend" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem 3, with Legend</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-4.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem 4"  title="Map of Jerusalem 4" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem 4</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/261/Map-of-Jerusalem-5.jpg" alt="Map of Jerusalem 5"  title="Map of Jerusalem 5" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Map of Jerusalem 5</p>
<h2 id="references">References</h2>
<p>Here are articles we’ve posted on Groong in the past few weeks on this topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://asbarez.com/jerusalem-patriarchate-vows-to-protect-armenian-churchs-interests/">Jerusalem Patriarchate Vows to Protect Armenian Church’s Interests</a> - 05/12/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://globeecho.com/news/middle-east/jordan-and-palestine-freeze-recognition-of-the-armenian-patriarch/">Jordan and Palestine freeze recognition of the Armenian Patriarch</a> - 05/12/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/135758">Palestine, Jordan suspends recognition of Armenian Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem</a> - 05/12/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-109/News/Jordan-Palestine-no-longer-recognize-Armenian-Patriarch-Nourhan-Manougian-28607">Jordan, Palestine no longer recognize Armenian Patriarch Nourhan Manougian</a> - 05/13/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-742872">Purported land sale in Armenian Quarter will damage Christian presence in Jerusalem</a> - 05/14/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.1in.am/3274329.html">«Երուսաղեմի հայ համայնքը կոնկրետ քայլեր է պահանջում կաթողիկոսից». «Կովերի պարտեզի» շուրջ կրքերը չեն հանդարտվում</a> - 05/24/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://armenianweekly.com/2023/05/24/goverou-bardez-saving-the-oldest-armenian-diaspora-in-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR2guMYJdzUMZlqSOGs4mpv3XPzlb7ElDQK3pflCBXd6vEgOn8nUfTOXf4c">Goverou Bardez: Saving the Oldest Armenian Diaspora in the World</a> - 05/24/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.newarab.com/analysis/how-secret-land-sales-threaten-jerusalems-armenian-quarter">Selling Jerusalem: How secret land deals threaten the Armenian Quarter</a> - 05/31/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://themedialine.org/top-stories/exclusive-priest-says-he-became-scapegoat-for-controversial-armenian-land-deal/">Exclusive: Priest Says He Became ‘Scapegoat’ for Controversial Armenian Land Deal</a> - 06/01/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.jpost.com/christianworld/article-745205">Accused priest says he became ‘scapegoat’ for controversial Armenian land deal</a> - 06/04/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.shantnews.am/news/view/1313032.html">A Jewish investor is planning to build an elite residential neighborhood in the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem, which will change the demographic picture of the neighborhood</a> - 06/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-06-07/ty-article/politics-and-real-estate-endanger-shrinking-armenian-community-in-jerusalems-old-city/00000188-94bd-df21-a1b8-b7bd2ad20000">Politics and Real Estate Endanger Shrinking Armenian Community in Jerusalem&rsquo;s Old City</a> - 06/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBizgjKVYwk">Իրավաբանական պատվիրակություն կմեկնի Երուսաղեմ՝ եկեղեցապատկան հողերի մութ գործարքը բացահայտելու համար</a> - 06/07/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.weeklyblitz.net/opinion/a-contentious-agreement-an-enigmatic-lease-contract-imperils-the-armenian-community-in-jerusalem/">A contentious agreement … An “enigmatic lease contract” imperils the Armenian community in Jerusalem</a> - 06/08/2023</li>
<li><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-jerusalems-old-city-armenian-community-members-fear-eviction-over-land-deal/">In Jerusalem’s Old City, Armenian community members fear eviction over land deal</a> - 06/08/2023</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>260</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sergei Melkonian - Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue in Chisinau/Kishinev and Moscow | Pashinyan Attends Erdogan Inauguration | Israeli President in Azerbaijan | Ep 260 - June 4, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - June 4, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* You say Chisinau, I say Kishinev
* Deputy PMs Meet in Moscow
* Israeli President Visits Azerbaijan
* Pashinyan Attends Erdogan’s Inauguration
* Armenia-Russia Relations
Episode 260 | Recorded: June 5, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* You say Chisinau, I say Kishinev
* Deputy PMs Meet in Moscow
* Israeli President Visits Azerbaijan
* Pashinyan Attends Erdogan’s Inauguration
* Armenia-Russia Relations
Episode 260 | Recorded: June 5, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Sergei Melkonian](/guest/smelkonian)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* You say Chisinau, I say Kishinev
* Deputy PMs Meet in Moscow
* Israeli President Visits Azerbaijan
* Pashinyan Attends Erdogan’s Inauguration
* Armenia-Russia Relations
Episode 260 | Recorded: June 5, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="you-say-chisinau-i-say-kishinev">You say Chisinau, I say Kishinev</h2>
<p>May was a very busy month in the continuing Armenian-Azerbaijani so-called “peace” negotiations, and the saga continues so far in June. This past week started with a meeting on June 1st with a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1112356.html">5-way summit</a> between Pashinyan, Aliyev, and Chancellor Olaf Scholtz of Germany, and presidents Macron and Michel of France and the EU.</p>
<p>The main topics on the table were:</p>
<ol>
<li>Unblocking of regional transport and economic infrastructures</li>
<li>Border delimitation and security between the two countries</li>
<li>Normalization of relations between the two countries</li>
<li>Rights and security of the people of Nagorno Karabakh</li>
<li>POWs, missing persons and “other humanitarian” issues</li>
</ol>
<p>Pres. Michel said afterwards that the meeting was a good prep for another upcoming meeting on July 21.</p>
<p>A few days before this meeting, Armenia’s security council chair, Armen Grigoryan, and Aliyev’s foreign policy advisor Hikmet Hajiyev <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1112156.html">met in Bratislava</a> during a conference, and held a panel together. The only thing we heard from that meeting was Grigoryan saying that Azerbaijan should refrain from maximalist positions.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What did you gather from the meetings in Bratislava and Chisinau, what was achieved?</li>
</ul>
<p>Upon returning from Chisinau, the Pashinyan government has started talking about a number of issues. One point is about using the 1975 maps for border delimitation. Another point is about handing over Armenian territories which Azerbaijan is claiming as their “enclaves” in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Notes:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan denies that they have agreed to using 1975 maps and Aliyev has multiple times stated that delimitation must be done unconditionally under Azerbaijani terms.</li>
<li>Also, Aliyev has never uttered the 29.8K sq km, despite Pashinyan repeatedly mentioning this land area in every speech.</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan is presenting these issues as if they present no problems for Armenia, and trying to normalize them in order to prepare the minds of his listeners.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/260/Galichian-Soviet-1926-map-of-Armenia-SSR.jpg" alt="Ruben Galichian, 1926 Soviet map"  title="Ruben Galichian, 1926 Soviet map" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>According to Ruben Galichian, this 1926 map should be used for border delimitation. The map shows Artsakh directly connected with Armenia and there are no “so-called” enclaves.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The Russians have said that they hold all the maps of record, especially the rare maps from the early days of the USSR. Why is Pashinyan discussing maps with Aliyev in Brussels as opposed to under the auspices of Moscow?</li>
<li>Can you give us an overview of the pros and cons of using the 1975 maps? We have interviewed Ruben Galichian in the past and according to him, in 1920 when the USSR was first constituted, there weren’t any enclaves and Armenia had a direct border with Artsakh. Even maps in 1926 showed this clearly. Should Armenia be insisting on using the more historically correct 1926 maps? Isn’t agreeing to later maps yet another concession to Azerbaijan’s maximalist demands?</li>
</ul>
<p>There is an interesting tidbit that came out of Chisinau. Ukraine president <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-meets-azerbaijani-president-aliyev-210519080.html">Zelensky met with Aliyev</a>, and thanked him for all the economic aid for reconstruction. Meanwhile, news broke out at the same time that <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32441973.html">Russia was taking note</a> of a comment that Pashinyan had made a month ago in Prague, when he had said that “in the war in Ukraine, Armenia is not Russia’s ally”. That comment on its own is a little out of context, _so check the full article in our show notes, _but the timing is striking in that it highlights positive achievements by Azerbaijan, and negative ones for Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this something, or is it nothing? Are we reading too much in the news? What do you make of these news items?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="deputy-pms-meet-in-moscow">Deputy PMs meet in Moscow</h2>
<p>After some delays, the Deputy PMs of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia met on June 2. <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/azeri-armenian-talks-unblock-transport-links-making-progress-russia-2023-06-02/">According to Russia’s Overchuk</a>, sides have achieved further “<a href="https://tass.com/politics/1627159">common understanding</a>” on how to restore the Yeraskh-Julfa-Meghri-Horadiz railroad. This falls in the first item mentioned above, “unblocking of regional transport and economic infrastructures”, and linking Azerbaijan and Nakhijevan is probably the only thing pressing on Aliyev’s mind anyway.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved at this meeting? Can the deputy PMs achieve progress, while the summit people are not achieving further “common understanding”? Or are the leaders not telling the public what’s being discussed and agreed to?</li>
</ul>
<p>One of the main sticking points has been Armenia’s control and sovereignty over any transit through Armenian territory. In fact Alen Simonyan, uncharacteristically for a government rep, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1112313.html">declared</a> that there would be no corridor, which we assume was about Aliyev’s so-called “Zangezur corridor”, and that Armenia will not sign any agreement that gives it less than 29,800 sq.km. of territory.</p>
<p>On the other hand, he said that dialogue between Baku and Stepanakert is also “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1112312.html">highly important</a>”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Have Armenia and Azerbaijan come to some sort of understanding that we don’t know of, about customs control as it regards transit connecting Azerbaijan to Nakhijevan?
<ul>
<li>Note: the Nov. 2020 trilateral ceasefire agreement says the Russian FSB will oversee transit, while Armenia most recently on western platforms has discussed a Swiss company taking on this role.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>While rail transit was discussed, roads and other communications were not reported to be on the table. What does this indicate about the balance of interests being prioritized at these meetings?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Baku-Stepanakert dialogue did not make it into Armenia’s “red lines”, it was just “also highly important”. It’s very, very unlikely that Aliyev will ever agree to an equal or horizontal dialog with Stepanakert, specially when just last week he <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32433043.html">threatened</a> them to dissolve their government and all state symbols, and surrender, or risk military aggression. Let’s also note that <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32437133.html">the US praised Aliyev’s</a> offer for so-called “amnesty” for Artsakh Republic leaders.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this mean that the Baku-Stepanakert dialogue is a negotiable point for Armenia? For example once dialogue “starts”, Armenia will be satisfied and sign agreements, without demanding a positive outcome?</li>
<li>Given that the west has explicitly said it can not provide Armenia and Armenians with any security guarantees, does Pashinyan’s strategy have any possibility for a positive outcome?</li>
<li>According to <a href="https://twitter.com/NKobserver">NKObserver</a>, a well-informed Twitter account on Artsakh, after over a week of <a href="https://twitter.com/NKobserver/status/1665569653316354048">fake Azeri claims</a> of Armenian ceasefire breaches on the Artsakh line of contact, we should beware greater Azeri aggression. How do you assess the potential for violence against Artsakh at this point in time?</li>
<li>Can the Nov. 2020 statement be considered null and void, considering pretty much all the signatories are in breach of the agreement they signed? Is there anything to adhere to, technically speaking?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israeli-president-visits-azerbaijan">Israeli President Visits Azerbaijan</h2>
<p>Israeli president Isaac Herzog <a href="https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-744936">visited</a> Azerbaijan this past week. Earlier this year Azerbaijan opened an embassy in Tel Aviv, and although there is a lot of pretense around economic and energy ties, the big deal is about defense and Iran.</p>
<p>Herzog again reiterated Israel’s long-standing claims that Iran is the biggest threat in the region, while Azerbaijan has <a href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/azerbaijan-advises-against-travel-to-iran-after-student-reported-missing/2913310">warned</a> its citizens not to travel to Iran, because of the attacks on its consulate in Tabriz earlier this year.</p>
<p>So both countries seem to be committed to keeping Iran as their regional bogeyman, and are overtly or covertly working to internationally isolate it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the core of the relationship between Azerbaijan and Israel?</li>
<li>In one of our previous episodes, our guest Arthur Martirosyan said that Israel currently prefers to stoke separatist sentiment in Iran in hopes of weakening the country from the inside and won’t prefer active military conflict. What’s your assessment for the potential of active warfare between Iran and Israel?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyan-attends-erdogan-inauguration">Pashinyan Attends Erdogan Inauguration</h2>
<p>Over the past weekend Erdogan was <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/RQavUFuStlo?feature=share">inaugurated </a>for a third term as president of Turkey. On May 28, he was elected with 52% of the vote, tipped in his favor by ultranationalist party leader Sinan Ogan.</p>
<p>Pashinyan attended, and was treated as a second class leader, sitting behind Azerbaijan’s president Aliyev on the first row. The first row was reserved for country leaders, and Erdogan shook all of their hands.</p>
<p>For reference, Georgia sent PM Garibashvili, Russia sent Duma speaker Volodin, and the US attended at the level of its Ambassador to Turkey.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Should Armenia have sent a more symbolic person such as Vahagn Khachatryan? What was the point of Pashinyan attending?</li>
<li>Were there other, less public meetings between Pashinyan and other top Turkish leaders?</li>
<li>Given Erdogan’s win thanks to Turkish ultranationalists, what can we expect from Turkey during Erdogan’s third term, in relation with Armenia? With Russia?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Notes:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Erdogan thanks Aliyev for being one of the first “congratulations” (Aliyev beat Pashinyan by an hour)</li>
<li>The term “one nation, two states” was used commonly in public messaging.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-russia-relations">Armenia-Russia Relations</h2>
<p>Sergei, one of your areas of focus is Armenia-Russia relations. You visit Russia frequently for academic conferences and have even hosted Russian analysts and academics here in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of the state of Armenia-Russia relations?</li>
<li>The mainstream Armenian political conception is that if Russia leaves Armenia, then not only will Armenia become a vilayet, but Pan-Turkism will present a critical threat to Russia itself.
<ul>
<li>In a recent round-table organized in Armenia, one of the Russian commentators said that the idea of a pan-Turkist threat to Russia’s south is overrated. They said something to the effect that Russia would like to stay in Armenia, but if it had to leave Armenia, it wouldn’t be so critical, especially from the point of view of the pan-turkism threat.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Sergei</strong>: Wine festival in Yerevan, in such dire times for Armenia.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Gayane Hakopyan will remain incarcerated.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/260/thumbnail-260.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/260/thumbnail-260.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12986880-sergei-melkonian-chisinau-kishinev-moscow-israeli-president-in-azerbaijan-pashinyan-at-erdogan-inauguration-armenia-russia-relations-ep-260-june-4-2023.mp3" length="35320482" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2941</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 259, June 2, 2023
[EP259]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/259-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230602/</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12970002-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-june-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>259</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 259, June 2, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - June 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 259, June 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Current Living and Humanitarian Conditions
* Morale after Pashinyan’s Recognition of Artsakh in Azerbaijan
* How is Artsakh Responding to Aliyev’s Amnesty Threats?
* Moral of the Artsakhtsi Population
* About Artsakh Men Being Denied Transit through Azeri Checkpoints
* Have the Russian Peacekeepers Changed Under Lentsov?
* All Parties are in Breach of the November 2020 Trilateral Ceasefire Agreement
Episode 259 | Recorded: June 2, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 259, June 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Current Living and Humanitarian Conditions
* Morale after Pashinyan’s Recognition of Artsakh in Azerbaijan
* How is Artsakh Responding to Aliyev’s Amnesty Threats?
* Moral of the Artsakhtsi Population
* About Artsakh Men Being Denied Transit through Azeri Checkpoints
* Have the Russian Peacekeepers Changed Under Lentsov?
* All Parties are in Breach of the November 2020 Trilateral Ceasefire Agreement
Episode 259 | Recorded: June 2, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 259, June 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - June 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Current Living and Humanitarian Conditions
* Morale after Pashinyan’s Recognition of Artsakh in Azerbaijan
* How is Artsakh Responding to Aliyev’s Amnesty Threats?
* Moral of the Artsakhtsi Population
* About Artsakh Men Being Denied Transit through Azeri Checkpoints
* Have the Russian Peacekeepers Changed Under Lentsov?
* All Parties are in Breach of the November 2020 Trilateral Ceasefire Agreement
Episode 259 | Recorded: June 2, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/259/thumbnail-259.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/259/thumbnail-259.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12970002-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-june-2-2023.mp3" length="11069243" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>918</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia | Ep. 258 - June 1, 2023
[EP258]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/258-dziunik-aghajanian-armenian-diplomacy-foreign-policy-pashinyan-agenda-mother-armenia/</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:16:54 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12959374-dziunik-aghajanian-on-armenian-diplomacy-foreign-policy-pashinyan-agenda-and-mother-armenia-ep-258-june-1-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>258</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia | Ep. 258 - June 1, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - June 1, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Ms Aghajanian
* Career path, Mentors, Influencers
* Parting ways with the MFA
* How did Armenia Resist Turkish Pressure prior to 2018
* Impressions of 2018 events
* On Pashinyan’s Policies to Surrender Artsakh
* Letter Planning the Surrender
* Messaging Aliyev to begin Instigations
* Changing Security Doctrine
* The Myth of Western Security Guarantees
* Pashinyan’s Fiction re Alma Ata and Madrid Principles
* On Armenia’s National Interests
* On Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Can Armenia get Closer to Iran?
* Can “Normalization” with Turkey work?
* Mother Armenia / Մայր Հայաստան Movement Announced
Episode 258 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 31 2023</itunes:summary><description>Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Ms Aghajanian
* Career path, Mentors, Influencers
* Parting ways with the MFA
* How did Armenia Resist Turkish Pressure prior to 2018
* Impressions of 2018 events
* On Pashinyan’s Policies to Surrender Artsakh
* Letter Planning the Surrender
* Messaging Aliyev to begin Instigations
* Changing Security Doctrine
* The Myth of Western Security Guarantees
* Pashinyan’s Fiction re Alma Ata and Madrid Principles
* On Armenia’s National Interests
* On Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Can Armenia get Closer to Iran?
* Can “Normalization” with Turkey work?
* Mother Armenia / Մայր Հայաստան Movement Announced
Episode 258 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 31 2023</description><googleplay:description>Dziunik Aghajanian - on Armenian Diplomacy, Foreign Policy, the Pashinyan Agenda, and Mother Armenia
#### Guest:
* [Amb. Dziunik Aghajanian](/guest/dzaghajanian)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Ms Aghajanian
* Career path, Mentors, Influencers
* Parting ways with the MFA
* How did Armenia Resist Turkish Pressure prior to 2018
* Impressions of 2018 events
* On Pashinyan’s Policies to Surrender Artsakh
* Letter Planning the Surrender
* Messaging Aliyev to begin Instigations
* Changing Security Doctrine
* The Myth of Western Security Guarantees
* Pashinyan’s Fiction re Alma Ata and Madrid Principles
* On Armenia’s National Interests
* On Armenian Foreign Policy Vectors
* Can Armenia get Closer to Iran?
* Can “Normalization” with Turkey work?
* Mother Armenia / Մայր Հայաստան Movement Announced
Episode 258 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 31 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="diplomatic-career">Diplomatic Career</h2>
<p>Can you tell us a little about how you entered the career of a diplomat and where your career has taken you?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In over 30 years with the MFA, who were the most influential mentors and diplomats for you, and who impressed you the most?</li>
<li>Genocide Policy: Zareh Sinanian.</li>
<li>In July 2021, we heard that you were <a href="https://armlur.am/1122340/">recalled</a> from your ambassadorship to Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore.  Why did you leave the MFA? Was it voluntary or were you relieved?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="velvet-2018">Velvet 2018</h2>
<p>Let’s look back to May of 2018, when Nikol Pashinyan was sworn in as Prime Minister of Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were your impressions of Pashinyan’s movement at the time?</li>
<li>What about 6 months later, or 12 months later?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="lead-up-during-and-after-the-44-day-war">Lead Up, During, and After the 44 Day War</h2>
<h3 id="antebellum">Antebellum</h3>
<p>2020 is obviously marked by the 44-day war. The infamous statement by Hitler comes to mind, in 1939, he is quoted as: “When diplomacy ends, war begins.”</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were some of the major factors that led to the start of the war in 2020? How did Armenian diplomacy fail?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since his defeat in the 44-day way, Pashinyan has at times claimed that Armenia agreed to handing Artsakh to Azerbaijan with the signing of the Alma Ata declaration in 1991. He has also claimed the same about Armenia agreeing to hand over Artsakh by signing the Madrid Principles.</p>
<p>Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian has vehemently rebutted Pashinyan’s assertions, and has said also that he offered to Pashinyan and his administration to discuss and explain the details of the negotiations, but Pashinyan rejected everything prior to 2018 and said that he would start from his own starting point.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about Pashinyan’s claims about Alma-Ata, Madrid, and prior administrations having agreed to hand Artsakh over to Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="during-the-44-day-war">During The 44-Day War</h3>
<p>Of course, the 44 day war was a pivotal moment for all of us, but please tell us how you experienced it from the inside, as an ambassador in Southeast Asia?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>When exactly did you learn that the war had started?</li>
<li>Was the war expected by the government?</li>
<li>How would you evaluate the performance of the MFA during the war?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="postwar">Postwar</h3>
<p>As the war ended, Armenian society was in shock &amp; disbelief. On the night of the signing of the November 2020 trilateral ceasefire statement, people stormed the government building and parliament. For a week, neither Pashinyan nor his Civil Contract parliamentarians could be found.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What did it look like from within the MFA?</li>
</ul>
<p>At one point, when foreign minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan resigned, four of his deputy FMs also resigned en masse. At this time there were a lot of concerns that the ministry no longer had qualified or trained diplomats and staff to carry on its mission.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did Mnatsakanyan resign? How would you evaluate his performance?</li>
<li>Were the concerns about the ministry’s ability to carry on justified?</li>
<li>Where does one’s responsibility as a diplomat end and that of a citizen begin?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="east-vs-west">East vs. West</h2>
<p>We are now apparently in the midst of a “great game” for control and influence over Armenia, and the South Caucasus. Immediately after the war, the Pashinyan government made it very difficult to evaluate the direction of Armenia’s geopolitical vector. One day it was praise of Russia and strong pro-Russian sentiments, other days we saw overtures towards the west.</p>
<p>In geopolitics they say that countries don’t have friends, they have interests, or national interests.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are Armenia’s fundamental interests?</li>
<li>Serge Sargsyan’s administration had a policy of complementarity, that of balancing our relations with our eastern and western partners. Should Armenia look East? West? Should it look both ways? Or should it look elsewhere?</li>
<li>Can Armenia get closer to Iran without facing sanctions? Should it care?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="relations-with-turkey">Relations with Turkey</h2>
<p>We brushed on the topic of Genocide earlier in the show. We should note that …</p>
<p>For over 100 years, the west has made many promises to Armenia which they have mostly not kept. In general, the west can not exert influence in the South Caucasus, except through Turkey, and we know that those relations are blocked.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about unblocking relations with Turkey? Do you think that the Turkish-Armenian so-called “normalization” process, as pursued by the Pashinyan government, will be beneficial for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mother-armenia-movement">Mother Armenia Movement</h2>
<p>On May 28th, you and a number of other citizens <a href="https://youtu.be/18ab11-HktA">joined forces</a> to announce the founding on a <a href="https://groong.org/news/msg126101.html">new movement</a> called Mother Armenia - Մայր Հայաստան.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the movement’s political goals?</li>
<li>The movement is advertised as above the political spectrum.</li>
<li>Have you received any support from existing opposition parties?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/258/thumbnail-258.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/258/thumbnail-258.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12959374-dziunik-aghajanian-on-armenian-diplomacy-foreign-policy-pashinyan-agenda-and-mother-armenia-ep-258-june-1-2023.mp3" length="50462432" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4202</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachikyan - May 28 | Mother Armenia Movement | Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes | Erdogan Reelected | Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO? | Ep 257 - May 28, 2023
[EP257]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/257-arthur-khachikyan-may-28-mother-armenia-azerbaijan-threatens-pashinyan-concedes-erdogan-reelected-goodbye-csto-hello-nato/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12951479-mother-armenia-aliyev-threatens-again-erdogan-reelected-csto-nato-ep-257-may-28-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>257</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachikyan - May 28 | Mother Armenia Movement | Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes | Erdogan Reelected | Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO? | Ep 257 - May 28, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - May 28, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia celebrates May 28
* A new political movement, Mother Armenia, was announced.
* Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes
* Erdogan Reelected President in Turkey
* Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO?
Episode 257 | Recorded: May 30, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia celebrates May 28
* A new political movement, Mother Armenia, was announced.
* Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes
* Erdogan Reelected President in Turkey
* Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO?
Episode 257 | Recorded: May 30, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia celebrates May 28
* A new political movement, Mother Armenia, was announced.
* Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes
* Erdogan Reelected President in Turkey
* Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO?
Episode 257 | Recorded: May 30, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="mother-armenia-mayr-hayastan-movement">Mother Armenia (Mayr Hayastan) Movement</h2>
<p>Arthur, two days ago, on May 28th, we saw you you and a number of other activists <a href="https://youtu.be/18ab11-HktA">join forces</a> to announce the founding on a <a href="https://groong.org/news/msg126101.html">new movement</a> called Mother Armenia - Մայր Հայաստան.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your role in the group and can you give us a brief intro of the organization?</li>
<li>The declaration of your movement occurred on the symbolic date of May 28. What does this date mean to you?</li>
<li>What are the political goals of Mayr Hayastan?</li>
<li>The movement is advertised as above the political spectrum. Have you received any support from existing opposition parties?</li>
<li>How is it different from the Homeland Salvation movement?</li>
<li>There are a number of other movements, such as the Miasin, Hamakhmbum, etc… Do we need so many movements? What will you do that others haven’t?</li>
<li>What will be some of your activities? Will it be in the form of street protests like other movements have attempted? If so, what will guarantee your success?</li>
<li>There’s this perception that those demanding Nikol’s resignation are working against a ticking time bomb. Once a deal is signed, no matter who comes, wouldn’t it be hard to undo all of the damage?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="aliyev-threatens-pashinyan-concedes">Aliyev Threatens, Pashinyan Concedes</h2>
<p>Early in May Aliyev demanded that Pashinyan must say “Artsakh is Azerbaijan”.</p>
<p>After a couple of weeks of dancing around the verbiage, to make sure that the Armenian people were asleep at the wheel, as he said things like 86,600 sq.km, or that 86,600 included Artsakh, Pashinyan last week basically said that Artsakh is Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>He also threw in a number of territories in Armenia which Aliyev has been demanding as “enclaves” belonging to Azerbaijan. Some news reports indicate that the Pashinyan government <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1112031.html">has already agreed</a> to this, but they’re not telling the Armenian people officially.</p>
<h3 id="response-from-the-armenian-world">Response from the Armenian World</h3>
<p>Except for the ruling Civil Contract circles, every Armenian organization condemned Pashinyan’s recognition in response to Aliyev. There were reactions from former presidents, the former presidents of Artsakh, <a href="https://asbarez.com/etchmiadzin-cilicia-catholicosates-reject-artsakh-as-part-of-azerbaijan/">both Catholicoses</a>, the parliamentary opposition, as well as many non-parliamentary parties, and movements.</p>
<p>The Parliamentary opposition stated that they have 5-6 months to stop Pashinyan before he signs Artsakh away, and that they’re working on new plans. They expect that Artsakh will essentially be purged of its Armenian population once Pashinyan signs.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How can the visceral worldwide Armenian reaction to Pashinyan’s capitulant response to Aliyev be harnessed to bring about change to the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<p>Reactions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Third president Serge Sargsyan <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/news/700865/%D5%BD%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AA-%D5%BD%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A3%D5%BD%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B6-%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B1%D5%A1%D5%A3%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A5%D5%AC-%D5%A7-%D5%A1%D6%80%D6%81%D5%A1%D5%AD%D5%AB-%D5%A1%D5%AA-%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A8/">statement</a>
<ul>
<li>Says it&rsquo;s confusing (if not insulting) to hear the demands from Artsakh given everything he has done.</li>
<li>He says he has always, especially in the last 5 years, said that “Artsakh has not and will never be part of independent Azerbaijan”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Second president Robert Kocharyan <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/761421.html">statement</a>
<ul>
<li>Strong reaction against Artsakh parliament majority (Arayiks party).</li>
<li>Says it&rsquo;s insulting to hear demanding statements from him when the Armenia Alliance (“Hayastan Dashink”) has been at the forefront of protests, especially calls out that Arayik was supporting Nikol in 2021.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Artsakh former presidents’ <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32424162.html">statement</a>
<ul>
<li>From Arkady Ghukasyan (2nd) and Bako Sahakyan (3rd)</li>
<li>Artsakh will not accept any status inside Azerbaijan</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Catholicos Garegin II <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32422676.html">reaction</a>, continues to think <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2023/04/20/Catholicos-Karekin/2824254">Pashinyan should resign</a>.</li>
<li>Catholicos Aram I <a href="https://horizonweekly.ca/am/%D5%B4%D5%A5%D5%B6%D6%84-%D5%A1%D6%80%D6%81%D5%A1%D5%AD%D5%AB-%D5%AF%D5%B8%D5%B2%D6%84%D5%AB%D5%B6-%D5%A5%D5%B6%D6%84-%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B4-%D5%A1-%D5%BE%D5%A5%D5%B0%D5%A1%D6%83%D5%A1/">statement</a></li>
<li>Arayik Harutyuyan <a href="https://iravaban.net/427101.html">statement</a>
<ul>
<li>Bans rallies (except those that are about self-determination of Artsakh)</li>
<li>Terminates discussions around elections and calls for his resignation
<ul>
<li>Reiterates that he will resign at an opportune time and will not seek reelection</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Bans criticism of this or that external player who is critical for Artsakh
<ul>
<li>Is this targeted at growing anti-Russian sentiments, the parliament criticizing Nikol, or or Ruben Vardanyan criticizing Nikol</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Raffi Hovhannisyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSCtFnvAt8">gives</a> press conference on Friday
<ul>
<li>Says Pashinyan must be stopped now</li>
<li>There needs to be a struggle</li>
<li>Pashinyan also will give “Zangezur” corridor</li>
<li>We are at the precipice of the “Last republic”</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyan-logic">Pashinyan “Logic”</h3>
<p>In the parliament on Wednesday, Pashinyan made further idiotic statements. He said:</p>
<pre><code>“For thousands of years, we haven’t had a deed (cadastre paper) to our house” … “At any point, there are 4-5 countries that can come and tell us to get out”
</code></pre>
<p>The Civil Contract party last year <a href="http://www.parliament.am/drafts.php?sel=showdraft&amp;DraftID=12996&amp;Reading=0">wanted to pass a law</a> that would criminalize casting doubt on the territorial integrity of Armenia, yet Pashinyan’s statements have not yet come to the attention of Armenian law.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why does Pashinyan think that Turks must validate our existence on our own homelands, in the form of a so-called “deed” to our sovereign country?</li>
<li>Is Pashinyan challenging Armenia’s legitimacy to exist?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="moscow-meeting">Moscow Meeting</h3>
<p>On Wednesday, Aliyev and Pashinyan flew to Moscow. We all saw the scenes. An unpleasant back-and-forth between Pashinyan and Aliyev, with Pashinyan in his broken Russian trying to argue with the refined Russian of Aliyev.</p>
<p>At the EAEU summit, Aliyev called Artsakhtsis “citizens of Azerbaijan” and said that Pashinyan has recognized Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan. There was no reaction from Pashinyan.</p>
<p>The only reaction from NP was about the “Zangezur” corridor remarks. He said that the November 2020 trilateral ceasefire agreement only mentioned one corridor, the Lachin corridor.</p>
<p>Putin held bilateral meetings with Pashinyan and Aliyev, then a trilateral meeting between the three happened, lasting only 20 minutes. Kommersant had <a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6001439?from=glavnoe_2">reported</a> that two new documents were to be signed. A new trilateral statement, and another one about unblocking transport routes.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.civilnet.am/en/news/701210/latest-armenia-azerbaijan-peace-talks-end-in-moscow-without-progress/">Nothing</a> was signed!</p>
<p>Regardless, Putin said that the meeting was positive. Deputy prime ministers will meet in a week to solve unresolved issues.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved at the Moscow trilateral summit?</li>
<li>What’s there to discuss in another week, June 1?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="aliyev-ultimatums">Aliyev Ultimatums</h3>
<p>After the summit in Moscow, Aliyev’s rhetoric against Artsakh increased. Last Friday, Aliyev <a href="https://mamul.am/am/news/267398">says</a> there won’t be a third invitation to Baku for Artsakh reps. He was referring to the previous 2 demands for Armenians to go to Baku for talks about “integration”.</p>
<p>This got even more troubling this week, when on Monday, Aliyev issued the most public <a href="https://jam-news.net/aliyev-on-the-fate-of-karabakh-armenians/">threat</a> against both Armenia and Artsakh.</p>
<p>Among other things, Aliyev said:</p>
<ul>
<li>Everyone now accepts our position</li>
<li>Arayik Harutyunyan must surrender</li>
<li>Artsakh government must be dissolved</li>
<li>All symbols of state must be destroyed</li>
<li>Only then will he consider amnesty</li>
<li>Said that Armenian villages are visible from Berdzor (or “Lachin” as he said it)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate this threat? Is Aliyev exaggerating that all powers worldwide accept Azerbaijan’s viewpoint?</li>
<li>One scenario is that there would be major fighting between Azerbaijan and Armenians of Artsakh and another would be the need to simply evacuate our brothers and sisters (as difficult it is to think about this scenario). How serious is this danger to Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="erdogan-reelected">Erdogan Reelected</h2>
<p>On May 28, as expected, Erdoğan won the presidential elections with just over 52% of the vote, to Kiliçdaroglu’s just under 48%. Nationalist party leader Sinan Ogan’s endorsement appears to have provided the <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/23/turkish-nationalist-candidates-support-for-erdogan-spells-peril-for-opposition.html">needed boost</a> for Erdogan to overcome his opponent.</p>
<p>During the campaign, especially in Round 2, the Armenia-Azerbaijan issue became an issue when both sides tried to out-do each other as to who could be more pro-Azerbaijani and anti-Armenian. Their foreign minister Çavusoglu stated that “there will be a Zangezur corridor”, while Kılıçdaroğlu, who in Phase 1 said he didn’t want a corridor through Zangezur now reversed course. So now everyone wants to pave over Syunik and build their panturanic highway.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can Armenia expect under a new Erdogan term?</li>
<li>Should we expect the Turkish-Armenian “normalization” charade to continue? Will it be on the back-burner, or prioritized?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="goodbye-csto-hello-nato">Goodbye CSTO, Hello NATO?</h2>
<p>During the week defense minister Suren Papikyan “opted out” of the CSTO meeting. Instead he sent a low-level <a href="https://groong.org/news/msg125899.html">official</a>. According to ruling party sources, he did not attend for <a href="https://tass.com/world/1622937">technical reasons</a>, not having to do anything with politics.</p>
<p>Russian defense minister Shoigu <a href="https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=76507&amp;lang=3">stated </a>that Armenia’s participation is important. Meanwhile, Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1111458.html">would not rule out</a> Armenia leaving the CSTO.</p>
<p>We also had a flurry of visitors from NATO countries. Some senior NATO reps visited Armenia:</p>
<ul>
<li>US defense official visits Armenia</li>
<li>NATO official visits Armenia
<ul>
<li>Title: “Deputy Assistant Secretary General for Political Affairs and Security Policy and NATO Secretary General’s Special Representative for the Caucasus and Central Asia”</li>
<li>Meets Aragats Mirzoyan and Nikol Pashinyan</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Leo Docherty, UK Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Europe met with FM Mirzoyan in Yerevan, and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1111438.html">announced</a> the start of a “strategic dialogue” between Armenia and NATO starting in june.</li>
<li>Luis Bono visits Armenia on Friday</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the likelihood of an Armenian exit from the CSTO?</li>
<li>This all hints to a potential upgrade of relations between Armenia and NATO. What is the likelihood of some form of partnership or outright accession into NATO?</li>
<li>What could the west, the US and the EU, be promising Pashinyan, that he’s willing to gamble the existence of the state of Armenia on it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Armenians must wake up from this surreal torpor.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: Why Artsakh is very important for Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP256]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/256-tevan-poghosyan-negotiations-carousel-meghri-railway-rasht-astara-instc-kornidzor-rally/</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12902163-tevan-poghosyan-negotiations-meghri-rasht-astara-kornidzor-artsakh-ep-256-may-21-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>256</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Negotiations Carousel | Meghri Railway | Rasht-Astara Railway | Kornidzor Rally | Artsakh Politics | Ep 256 - May 21, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 05/21/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Accelerated Negotiations
* Negotiations Carousel
* Meghri Railway
* Russia Finances Rasht-Astara
* Rallies in Artsakh and Kornidzor
* Artsakh Domestic Politics
Episode 256 | Recorded: May 22, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Accelerated Negotiations
* Negotiations Carousel
* Meghri Railway
* Russia Finances Rasht-Astara
* Rallies in Artsakh and Kornidzor
* Artsakh Domestic Politics
Episode 256 | Recorded: May 22, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Accelerated Negotiations
* Negotiations Carousel
* Meghri Railway
* Russia Finances Rasht-Astara
* Rallies in Artsakh and Kornidzor
* Artsakh Domestic Politics
Episode 256 | Recorded: May 22, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="accelerated-negotiations">Accelerated Negotiations</h2>
<p>After several weeks of accelerated negotiations in various capitals of the world (some at war with each other), Nikol Pashinyan finally said what Aliyev wanted him to say.</p>
<p>Pashinyan said that he recognizes Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>After re-affirming that Azerbaijan is conducting a policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide in Artaskh, he said with a straight face that Armenia is moving closer to signing a so-called “peace deal” that hands away Artsakh and the so-called enclaves. Pashinyan said it was unlikely that the document would be signed next week in Moscow but did not exclude that it could be signed in Kishinev on June 1 or in Belgium in July.</p>
<h3 id="negotiations-carousel">Negotiations Carousel</h3>
<p>In the past month there has been a flurry of activities in the arena of Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations. To recap, less than a month ago we read that there would be a foreign ministerial meeting in Moscow, but within a couple of days of those announcements, Ararat Mirzoyan and Jeyhun Bayramov were in Washington DC, meeting bilaterally, and trilaterally with Secretary Anthony Blinken.</p>
<p>The week following that, Pashinyan and Aliyev met in Brussels, and Charles Michel announced that the leaders had announced mutual recognition of each others’ countries in their internationally recognized square footage.</p>
<p>This past weekend Mirzoyan and Bayramov were in Moscow, this time meeting under the auspices of Sergey Lavrov. And now a Pashinyan-Aliyev summit in Moscow is announced on May 25.</p>
<p>There are even <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UJofSQ403s">more meetings</a>, some as early as June 1, in Kishinev, and then Brussels later in the summer, then Granada in the fall.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are we getting for all this platform-hopping?</li>
<li>To many observers the “86,600 sq.km.” language has been code for Pashinyan telling Aliyev “Artsakh is Azerbaijan”. Is there any room for doubt now that Pashinyan has effectively sold Artsakh down the river, by recognizing Azerbaijan’s 86,600 sq.km. territorial space?</li>
<li>Where do we go from here?</li>
</ul>
<p>There appear to be some serious gaps between the Russian and Western platforms trying to broker this so-called “peace” in the South Caucasus.</p>
<p>Lavrov previously <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUnjPTzzw-A">said</a> in an interview that the west is trying to wrest Armenia away from Russia. While Mirzoyan was in Moscow last week, Lavrov stipulated that Russia has paramount <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/126868">interests</a> in the South Caucasus and said he’s “certain” that Russia’s allies understand that.</p>
<p>Today, Pashinyan, while denying Lavrov’s assertion, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1111458/">stated </a>that leaving CSTO is not out of the Armenian agenda and that CSTO membership has been a liability in Armenia’s procurement of weapons.</p>
<p>We have discussed that the interest of the West in the so-called peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan is primarily to displace Russia from the South Caucasus. Russia is at war with the West, so it seems there’s a competition between who will be the mediator in South Caucasus.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the intensification of the process of negotiations, where we’re seeing absolutely zero concessions on the part of Azerbaijan, in Armenia’s interests?</li>
<li>How should we read these diplomatic messages from Lavrov? Was he just acknowledging a fact or are his words to be interpreted as a warning?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="meghri-railway">Meghri Railway</h3>
<p>One of the topics mentioned out of Brussels was that there was some <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1110913.html">progress in unblocking transportation</a> as they say “in the region”. In reality, the unblocking is only about linking Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan. We did not hear Aliyev directly say the “C” corridor” word after Brussels, so it seems like this point eluded media and political scrutiny for now while Ararat Mirzoyan claimed this to be an achievement.</p>
<p>Since this railway issue progress was achieved in Brussels, it’s unlikely that it would preserve the Russian FSB as an overseer of the transit process, as stipulated in the November 2020 trilateral ceasefire agreement. In fact, in the past Pashinyan has talked about mutually agreeable international organizations that could take care of customs functions on the corridor. Vahan Kerobyan <a href="http://arka.am/en/news/business/armenian_minister_explains_how_customs_structures_will_work_in_case_regional_communications_are_unbl/">explained</a> in more detail that the company in question is a Swiss company called SGS, which has previously filled a similar role in Abkhazia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What benefit will there be from this railway? Is Armenia paying hundreds of millions of dollars in order to connect Azerbaijan with Nakhijevan, without getting much in return or is there some substantial benefit that Armenia can get?</li>
<li>Despite explicitly not mentioning the word “corridor”, does the involvement of a  Swiss company to perform customs functions rule out the possibility of “corridor logic”?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="rasht---astara-railway">Rasht - Astara Railway</h3>
<p>A major geopolitical deal was <a href="https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/russia-and-iran-sign-rail-deal-for-corridor-intended-to-rival-suez-canal/article66861420.ece">signed</a> this week between Russia and Iran. Russia will <a href="https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/05/iran-russia-ink-16-billion-rail-deal-rival-suez-canal">provide</a> $1.6 billion financing to build a 160 km railway inside Iran connecting Rasht on the Caspian Sea and the Iranian city of Astara, which is on the border of Azerbaijan. This will be the last missing link to create a contiguous railway from India to Russia, through Iran and Azerbaijan. This railway is one of the components of the International North–South Transport Corridor (INSTC).</p>
<p>Vladimir Putin painted this as a major achievement because it would create a transport corridor that would allow for goods to be shipped from Asia to Russia and potentially Europe on land, avoiding the Suez canal. It would also be a potentially major boost to Russia as it comes under more Western sanctions. It would also be a boost to Iran who is also continuously isolated by the west.</p>
<p>It seems that the Rasht-Astara railway is being built bilaterally by Russia and Iran in an attempt to not involve the other major player in the project, Azerbaijan, which would be used as a conduit for the traffic due to potential for Western sanctions. However, Azerbaijan will build the last missing piece by building a short rail link connecting the Iranian city of Astara with the eponymous city in Azerbaijan, right across the border.</p>
<p>Armenia is also part of the INSTC, but there are only plans to build roads. However, several circumstances have slowed down the multi-billion dollar project to build adequate roads in Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see this development in the context of Russia vs. West geopolitics?</li>
<li>Is this a major geopolitical blow that will further isolate Armenia?</li>
<li>What are the causes for Armenia’s slow construction of the North-South road?</li>
<li>Does Armenia have a way out of this regional isolation?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="rallies-in-kornidzor-and-artsakh">Rallies in Kornidzor and Artsakh</h3>
<p>On Saturday the 20th, over 5,000 people <a href="https://168.am/2023/05/20/1876151.html">marched</a> near the Armenian border near the Kornidzor bridge, to demand that the Armenian government and people wake up, and fight for its country, and remove border checkpoints between two Armenian states: Armenia and Artsakh. A similar march was conducted by opposition parties in Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hovik, you were at the rally on Saturday, can you give us a first hand report from that event?</li>
<li>Tevan, what are your thoughts on how the Armenian nation and the Armenian public can take measures against the betrayal of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-political-intrigue">Artsakh Political Intrigue</h2>
<p>There are political developments in Artsakh that raise concern among analysts. Meanwhile over 30 Armenian parties, alliances and organizations <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/126782?/">signed a declaration</a> that any agreement signed by the Armenian government that recognizes Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan is illegal and no one, including Pashinyan, is unacceptable, and that Armenia has no right to speak for Artsakh.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, since Samvel Babayan returned to Artsakh, he has been actively holding meetings with supporters and publicly demanding that Arayik Harutyunyan appoint him as state minister. On Monday, Babayan held a rally in Stepanakert issuing similar demands; where only a few hundred people showed up; higher estimates put the count of attendees at about a thousand people.</p>
<p>Despite the weak turnout, however, speaker of the Artsakh parliament, Arthur Tovmasyan, in response to Babayan’s demands, <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/126807">called</a> on president Arayik Harutyunyan, to either resign or call for a referendum of confidence on himself, and asked to set up a state defense commission including Rouben Vardanyan and Samvel Babayan.</p>
<p>Samvel Babayan accepted Tovmasyan’s call, saying he’d agree to rule Artsakh as part of a “State Defense Commission”. Rouben Vardanyan on the other hand politely declined, saying it is not the time.</p>
<p>Also, Rouben Vardanyan, after stepping down from being state minister, has <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/126808">created</a> a new platform to continue struggling for Artsakh, called the Front for the Security and Development of Nagorno Karabakh. This platform involves all political parties in Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Hows should we analysis of the various movements in the politics of Artsakh Republic, as well as the various protests and rallies? Is it really the time for infighting?</li>
<li>Why would Artsakh speaker Arthur Tovmasyan demand Arayik Harutyunyan’s resignation at this moment in time? What prompted this? And how realistic is the potential for Arayik’s resignation.</li>
<li>What would a State Defense Commission do?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/256/thumbnail-256.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/256/thumbnail-256.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12902163-tevan-poghosyan-negotiations-meghri-rasht-astara-kornidzor-artsakh-ep-256-may-21-2023.mp3" length="40182552" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3346</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel in Brussels | Turkish Presidential Elections | Court vs. News &amp; Media | Ep 255 - May 14, 2023
[EP255]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/255-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-aliyev-michel-meet-in-brussels-courts-vs-armenian-media-168-davit-sargsyan/</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 00:15:00 -0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12857094-benyamin-poghosyan-pashinyan-aliyev-michel-in-brussels-turkish-presidential-elections-ep-255-may-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>255</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel in Brussels | Turkish Presidential Elections | Court vs. News &amp; Media | Ep 255 - May 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - May 14, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel Meet in Brussels
* Azerbaijan Attacks Sotk
* Turkish Presidential Elections
Episode 255 | Recorded: May 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel Meet in Brussels
* Azerbaijan Attacks Sotk
* Turkish Presidential Elections
Episode 255 | Recorded: May 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Pashinyan, Aliyev, Michel Meet in Brussels
* Azerbaijan Attacks Sotk
* Turkish Presidential Elections
Episode 255 | Recorded: May 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="in-brussels-pashinyan-recognizes-artsakh-as-azerbaijan">In Brussels Pashinyan Recognizes Artsakh as Azerbaijan?</h2>
<p>This week we saw more fighting in Armenia resulting in six wounded and a death, shortly before an unfazed Pashinyan attended the summit in Brussels with Aliyev and Charles Michel and apparently declared recognition of an Azerbaijan with 86,600 sq kms, which many analysts say includes Artsakh.</p>
<p>Former foreign minister Vardan Oskanian reacted by <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/news/700066/%D6%83%D5%A1%D5%B7%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AB-%D5%B1%D5%A5%D5%BC%D6%84%D5%A8-%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%BF%D6%84-%D5%A7-%D5%A2%D5%BC%D5%B6%D5%A5%D5%AC-%D5%B0%D5%A5%D5%B6%D6%81-%D5%B0%D5%AB%D5%B4%D5%A1-%D5%B0%D5%A5%D5%BF%D5%B8-%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B7-%D5%AF%D5%AC%D5%AB%D5%B6%D5%AB%E2%80%A4-%D5%BE%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A4%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D6%85%D5%BD%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6/">saying</a> that Pashinyan&rsquo;s &ldquo;hand must be restrained now, it will be too late tomorrow&rdquo;. Meanwhile, former foreign minister of Artsakh David Babayan <a href="https://www.aysor.am/am/news/2023/05/15/%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6/2094215">called</a> the announcement out of Brussels as disgusting, putrid, and criminal.</p>
<h3 id="fighting-several-days-before">Fighting Several Days Before</h3>
<p>Days before the awaited meeting in Brussels a two-day battle began in Gegharkunik. Sotk, Norabak, Verin Shorzha were attacked with high-caliber weapons, including mortar and artillery. The Armenian side had 4 wounded on the first day and two wounded on the second day. Unfortunately on day 2 we also had a death.</p>
<p>Pashinyan <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/155930">said</a> that Azerbaijan’s attack is an attempt <strong><em>“to nullify the progress that was recorded during the negotiations that took place in Washington on May 1-4.”</em></strong></p>
<p>He also indicated that his plans to go to Brussels had not changed.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the cause?
<ul>
<li>Was it about the gold mine?</li>
<li>Was it to affect negotiations?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Again, where are the EU observers?
<ul>
<li>EU observers <a href="https://youtu.be/ysmtiYrkocY">decided</a> to start driving to the location 8 hours later.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="charles-michel-announcement">Charles Michel Announcement</h3>
<p>After the summit, Michel <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/05/14/press-remarks-by-president-charles-michel-following-the-trilateral-meeting-with-president-aliyev-of-azerbaijan-and-prime-minister-pashinyan-of-armenia/">said</a> that the sides were closer than ever. One of the key points was the mutual recognition of “territorial integrity of Armenia (29,800 km2) and Azerbaijan (86,600 km2).”</p>
<p>Until now, those wishing to give Pashinyan the benefit of the doubt, said that Pashinyan is playing 4D chess and by avoiding explicit mention of Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan, he was leaving some wiggle room for interpretation of the final status of Artsakh. And we heard Aliyev a few weeks ago say that Pashinyan must explicitly say that “Artsakh is Azerbaijan”.</p>
<p>Well, isn’t specifying the exact surface area of Azerbaijan, essentially saying that Artsakh is Azerbaijan?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the implications of this statement for the status of Artsakh, for the so-called enclaves?</li>
</ul>
<p>Michel&rsquo;s announcement also included the withdrawal of forces on both sides.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this Pashinyan&rsquo;s mirrored withdrawal idea? Azerbaijanis are already in Armenia. Where is Armenia going to withdraw to?</li>
<li>Do you believe that signing a so-called “peace treaty” is close?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="elections-in-turkey">Elections in Turkey</h2>
<p>Yesterday was May 14, the big presidential election day in Turkey. There is a real potential for change in Turkey, as the political opposition, mostly united behind CHP leader Kemal Kiliçdaroglu, has mounted a credible alternative to incumbent president, AKP’s Reçep Erdogan, after decades of his single-party rule by a strong executive. This election is also watched internationally because of Turkey’s expansionist agenda under Erdogan and the warm personal relationship between Erdogan and Putin, which has translated to some benefit for Russia during the war on Ukraine, specifically in evading some western sanctions.</p>
<p>Some issues concerning the South Caucasus and Armenia have been mentioned in this campaign, though probably not as one of the top 10 issues. For instance, Kilicdaroglu said that his vision for connecting Turkey with China does not include a corridor that would go through Syunik, Artsakh, and Azerbaijan. Instead, he talked about a corridor through Iran. Cavusoglu was quick to respond to the Kilicdaroglu campaign, saying: &ldquo;There will be a Zangezur corridor.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Azerbaijan, which has seen great support from Turkey during Erdogan’s rule, also spoke out. Foreign minister Bayramov said: &ldquo;Without Azerbaijan, there can&rsquo;t be a Turkish road. The Turkish world <a href="https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan/status/1656002218187685889">will be united</a> through Zangezur corridor&rdquo;</p>
<p>At the <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/14/follow-the-vote-turkey-election-results-2023">time</a> of our recording this show, it appears that Erdogan has mustered 49.5% of the vote to Kiliçdaroglu’s 44.9%, and as the winner needs to take over 50% of the vote, it’s very likely that a runoff election will be scheduled on May 28, between the two leaders,</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Outside of campaign announcements, how big of an impact on Turkey’s foreign policy would a Kilicdaroglu victory have?
<ul>
<li>The West is heavily invested in its war against Russia in Ukraine. Would a change of presidency in Turkey greatly affect the war in Ukraine? Does the West have a preference as to who wins this election?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What difference would it make for Armenia, whether there’s a Kiliçdaroglu administration, or a continuing Erdogan administration?</li>
<li>Is there a potential for domestic unrest in Turkey due to the electoral outcome? What should Armenia, and probably all others anticipate, or prepare for?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP254]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/254-ruben-melikyan-tigran-avinyan-sues-freezes-assets-168-zham-davit-sargsyan-20230513/</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2023 00:16:54 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12843233-ruben-melikyan-armenian-court-freezes-assets-of-journalist-and-news-media-outlet-ep-254-may-13-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>254</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ruben Melikyan - Yerevan Court Freezes Assets of 168.am and Journalist Davit Sargsyan on Tigran Avinyan's Demand | Ep 254 - May 13, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - May 13, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Yerevan Court Freezes Assets of 168.am and Journalist Davit Sargsyan on Tigran Avinyan's Demand
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
#### Guest:
* [Ruben Melikyan](/guest/rmelikyan)
#### Topics:
Episode 254 | Recorded on Thursday, May 13 2023</itunes:summary><description>Yerevan Court Freezes Assets of 168.am and Journalist Davit Sargsyan on Tigran Avinyan's Demand
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
#### Guest:
* [Ruben Melikyan](/guest/rmelikyan)
#### Topics:
Episode 254 | Recorded on Thursday, May 13 2023</description><googleplay:description>Yerevan Court Freezes Assets of 168.am and Journalist Davit Sargsyan on Tigran Avinyan's Demand
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
#### Guest:
* [Ruben Melikyan](/guest/rmelikyan)
#### Topics:
Episode 254 | Recorded on Thursday, May 13 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="avinyan-suit-freezes-assets-of-newspaper--journalist">Avinyan Suit Freezes Assets of Newspaper &amp; Journalist</h2>
<p>In Tigran Avinyan’s civil <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32409384.html">court case</a> against <a href="https://168.am/">168.am</a> and journalist <a href="https://www.facebook.com/davit.sargsyan">Davit Sargsyan</a>, the  judge has decided to freeze $46,000 of the defendants’ assets, an <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32409312.html">unprecedented</a> development according to journalist unions.</p>
<p>Avinyan alleges that the media outlet slandered him by publishing a <a href="https://youtu.be/696vWAmCtjk">video</a> that says that he is one of a number of the newly enriched, in Pashinyan’s close circle of ruling party cronies.</p>
<p>In this segment we’re not so much interested in the allegations either in the video or in the suit, but as a media outlet ourselves we’re interested and concerned about the effect of such legal action, and the resulting court response on the media in Armenia.</p>
<p>We’re joined by <a href="https://twitter.com/RubenMelikyan">Ruben Melikyan</a>, who was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman, and prior to that he was rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law”. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/path.of.law.am/">Իրավական ուղի</a> NGO.</p>
<p>The case is still ongoing, a verdict has not been issued.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is it normal for a court to come down with harsh punitive measures like this before a verdict is issued?</li>
<li>The court action was in response to Tigran Avinyan’s demand. Is it normal for a court to accede to such demands from a plaintiff, before a verdict is issued?
<ul>
<li>Background: Others have noted the absence of a demand to take down the content or issue an apology from the Avinyan legal team, saying that this indicates the motivation of the plaintiff. What do you think about that?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Do you suspect administrative pressure is being applied on the court to act in this manner?</li>
<li>Is this action by the court illegal, or unconstitutional? Does it encroach on the rights of the defendants - 168 Zham and/or Davit Sargsyan?</li>
<li>What is the effect of these actions by the court, and also of a plaintiff who is the deputy, or rather, the acting mayor and a member of the ruling party, to be applying such pressure on a news and media outlet in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="external-influence-on-armenian-media">External Influence on Armenian Media</h3>
<p>This regime has been criticized by opponents going as back as the initial days of the so-called revolution in 2018, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Surrounding of courthouses in 2019</li>
<li>Criminalization of insults</li>
</ul>
<p>After all this, international NGOs have only slightly degraded Armenia’s ranking in the world corruption index. Critics say the West and the NGOs are still treating this government with kid gloves. Pashinyan, in his turn, has blamed the media for causing the downgrade through negative reporting.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, as recently as last week, <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/758389.html">USAID allocated</a> over $17 million in support of Armenian media.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the role of the international organizations, the civil rights watchdogs, the NGO community at large in Armenia in enabling this kind of behavior?</li>
<li>Why does USAID think that Armenian media need 17 million dollars in support? Do we know what this support looks like? Note: According to <a href="https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/1654435742712573952">some measures</a>, this is more than double the amount of advertising revenue the industry generates in a year.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="background-notes">Background Notes</h3>
<p>Putting pressure on the judiciary or enacting anti-free speech legislation is out of the tool set of authoritarian leaders - but apparently not for newly minted color revolutionaries.</p>
<p>For instance, in 2019, still riding high on post-2018 euphoria, Pashinyan <a href="https://mirrorspectator.com/2019/05/21/pashinyan-tells-supporters-to-block-courts-asks-judges-to-resign/">ordered</a> his followers to surround courthouses because he didn’t like the verdict of one of the courts. These actions got very little resonance from democracy watchdogs and the NGO community.</p>
<p>We remember the harsh measures passed under the auspices of anti-covid measures, again without much international criticism.</p>
<p>After the war in 2020, the Pashinyan regime actually <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31386137.html">criminalized</a> insults. But only against government officials. They had to silently undo this later - due to some muted international criticism, but there were never any threats of sanctions or rapid downgrades on democratic indices that is more common to see in case of regimes that aren’t as favored by the globalist circles.</p>
<p>Since the 2021 elections, the regime has increased fines on the media for so-called defamatory material, and Armenian media that have tried to publish corruption reports on the government have been <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32321196.html">hacked</a>, with no follow-through on the part of law-enforcement to find out who did it.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/254/thumbnail-254.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/254/thumbnail-254.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12843233-ruben-melikyan-armenian-court-freezes-assets-of-journalist-and-news-media-outlet-ep-254-may-13-2023.mp3" length="11317362" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>940</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 253, May 11, 2023
[EP253]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/253-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230511/</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12833598-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-may-11-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>253</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 253, May 11, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - May 11, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 253, May 11, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mayil 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* May 11 Azeri attacks on Sotk, Armenia
* Azerbaijan blocking ICRC convoys
* [Sarsang](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32401755.html) reservoir depleting
* Rumors of a second pseudo-eco activist effort
* [Lentsov](https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20230504/general-lentsov-obsudil-s-gasanovym-deyatelnost-mirotvortsev-v-nagornom-karabakhe-59156218.html) in Baku - what results?
* Artsakh Ombuds & FM activities
* Matthew Bryza bemoans Armenian Opp & diaspora
    * US Senate FR committee [calls](https://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/05/11/Sanctions-for-senior-Azerbaijani-officials-must-be-on-table-U-S-Senate-Foreign-Relations-Committee/928055) for sanctions
* May 9 in Artsakh
* Armenians, Artsakh and the victory in WW2
Episode 253 | Recorded: May 11, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 253, May 11, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mayil 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* May 11 Azeri attacks on Sotk, Armenia
* Azerbaijan blocking ICRC convoys
* [Sarsang](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32401755.html) reservoir depleting
* Rumors of a second pseudo-eco activist effort
* [Lentsov](https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20230504/general-lentsov-obsudil-s-gasanovym-deyatelnost-mirotvortsev-v-nagornom-karabakhe-59156218.html) in Baku - what results?
* Artsakh Ombuds & FM activities
* Matthew Bryza bemoans Armenian Opp & diaspora
    * US Senate FR committee [calls](https://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/05/11/Sanctions-for-senior-Azerbaijani-officials-must-be-on-table-U-S-Senate-Foreign-Relations-Committee/928055) for sanctions
* May 9 in Artsakh
* Armenians, Artsakh and the victory in WW2
Episode 253 | Recorded: May 11, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 253, May 11, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mayil 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* May 11 Azeri attacks on Sotk, Armenia
* Azerbaijan blocking ICRC convoys
* [Sarsang](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32401755.html) reservoir depleting
* Rumors of a second pseudo-eco activist effort
* [Lentsov](https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20230504/general-lentsov-obsudil-s-gasanovym-deyatelnost-mirotvortsev-v-nagornom-karabakhe-59156218.html) in Baku - what results?
* Artsakh Ombuds & FM activities
* Matthew Bryza bemoans Armenian Opp & diaspora
    * US Senate FR committee [calls](https://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/05/11/Sanctions-for-senior-Azerbaijani-officials-must-be-on-table-U-S-Senate-Foreign-Relations-Committee/928055) for sanctions
* May 9 in Artsakh
* Armenians, Artsakh and the victory in WW2
Episode 253 | Recorded: May 11, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="sarsang-reservoir-depleting">Sarsang Reservoir Depleting</h1>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/253/Sarsang-from-Azatutyun-20230508.webp" alt="Sarsang Reservoir from Jan 2023 to April 2023"  title="Sarsang Reservoir from Jan 2023 to April 2023" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

From <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32401755.html">Azatutyun.am</a></p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP252]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/252-hrant-mikaelian-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-iri-poll-armenia-census-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2023 00:01:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12820577-may-9-the-triple-holiday-mirzoyan-bairamov-in-washington-dc-latest-iri-armenia-polls-results-armenian-census-2022-ep-252-may-7-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>252</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian - Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations | IRI Poll | Armenia Census 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - May 7, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Latest IRI Armenia Poll Results
* Armenian Census 2022 - Preliminary Results
Episode 252 | Recorded: May 9, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Latest IRI Armenia Poll Results
* Armenian Census 2022 - Preliminary Results
Episode 252 | Recorded: May 9, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Latest IRI Armenia Poll Results
* Armenian Census 2022 - Preliminary Results
Episode 252 | Recorded: May 9, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="may-9-the-triple-holiday">May 9: The “Triple Holiday”</h2>
<p>Today is May 9, which in Armenia is a major holiday called the triple-holiday, combining Victory Day (the allied victory in WWII), the establishment of the self-defense forces of Artsakh (1992), and the day of liberation of Shushi (also in 1992). Obviously, in past times it was a much more joyous occasion.</p>
<p>We know there were events both in Armenia and Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does it mean to have the May 9 holiday in the situation that Armenia is in today? Is it really a celebration or more of a commemoration?</li>
<li>What are the differences in the ways that Artsakh and Armenia observe this holiday now?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-continue">Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue</h2>
<p>Undoubtedly the big story of this past week was the lightning-fast coordinated meeting of the foreign ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan in DC, under the auspices of the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. The results vary depending on who you ask.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, yesterday a summit was announced in Brussels between Aliyev, Pashinyan and EU co-president Charles Michel. And today, Pashinyan was in Moscow.</p>
<h3 id="mirzoyan-bayramov-washington-dc">Mirzoyan, Bayramov, Washington DC</h3>
<p>The DC meeting materialized on calendars very suddenly, after Armenia had confirmed a meeting of the foreign ministers in Moscow. It happened so fast that everyone and probably including the Russian MFA were momentarily confused as to who’s meeting whom and where. Next thing we know Ararat Mirzoyan was meeting Jeyhun Bayramov in DC for 3+ days, which yielded uncertain results.</p>
<p>At the end Blinken assessed the progress made as “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32397029.html">significant</a>”, while Pashinyan was less enthusiastic, assessing the distance in terms of reaching agreement between the two sides as <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32397763.html">990 meters to the previous 1,000</a>.</p>
<p>Apparently the major areas of differences are about the international security mechanisms for Artsakh, and also about Azerbaijan’s willingness to recognize Armenian sovereignty on Pashinyan’s “29,800” sq.km. And by the way, these differences were confirmed just yesterday by national security chair Armen Grigoryan, who <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1110515.html">said</a> that there was no progress on those issues.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Given what we’ve read, it seems like Pashinyan’s assessment of the progress achieved was rather modest. What are your thoughts?</li>
<li>One of the themes of the talks was the “rights and security of the Karabakh people”, as Blinken put it. Does this mean that all three sides are dealing with the issue of the Artsakhtsis as a minority inside Azerbaijan? Also, what are your thoughts about a statement by Blinken, which was later edited out, mentioning ethnic minorities in the region in general.</li>
<li>Given that Pashinyan has said that Stepanakert should talk to Baku directly, what right or mandate does he have to negotiate the rights and security of Artsakhtsis?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-prague">Pashinyan in Prague</h3>
<p>Pashinyan commented on the Washington talks during his state visit to Prague. He also spoke at the Prague Center for Transatlantic Relations.</p>
<p>An audience member <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32397227.html">asked</a> Pashinyan why Armenia was not applying the principle of “Remedial Secession”. Pashinyan completely failed to answer the question and simply babbled on his “commitment to negotiations” despite Baku’s “intentions of ethnic cleansing”. He pretty much made the point for the questioner that Remedial Secession should be exercised.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a viable option for Artsakh, and why doesn’t Armenia support it?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan took the opportunity of a question to further bash Russia and the CSTO as having failed in their obligations to Armenia. Then he said he will be in Moscow and yesterday, Monday, he was in fact in Moscow.</p>
<p>At the same time, the EU <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/05/08/press-statement-on-armenia-and-azerbaijan/">issued a press-release</a> announcing a meeting in Brussels on May 14 between Pashinyan, Aliyev, and Charles Michel together with President Emmanuel Macron of France and Chancellor Olaf Scholz of Germany. So things are moving fast.</p>
<p>Today we also read that there may be yet <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1110523.html">another trilateral summit</a> between Pashinyan and Aliyev in Moscow, after the Brussels summit. This time with Putin.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What about Brussels, this coming Sunday?</li>
<li>What expectations should there be from Pashinyan’s trip to Moscow?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="latest-iri-poll-results">Latest IRI Poll Results</h2>
<p>In April James DeWitt, the director of the Armenian branch of the International Republican Institute (IRI), <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/124781">was in Yerevan</a>, probably to inform the Armenian authorities that their <a href="https://www.iri.org/news/iri-armenia-poll-shows-concerns-over-national-security-sharp-divisions-on-russia-improving-relations-with-turkey/">latest poll results</a> would be out shortly, and well the results didn’t look good for them.</p>
<p>See also: <a href="https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/blogs/83781/posts/58621">Опрос IRI в Армении: большинство недовольно текущей ситуацией</a> by Hrant Mikaelian</p>
<h3 id="post-2018-euphoria--direction-of-country">Post-2018 Euphoria / Direction of Country</h3>
<h4 id="post-revolutionary-euphoria">Post-Revolutionary Euphoria</h4>
<p>Hrant, you <a href="https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/blogs/83781/posts/58621">performed</a> a comparative analysis of post-revolutionary “euphoria” using data from this poll, looking at data from Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Tunisia and Armenia. What can you tell us about the similarities and differences in euphoria in these countries?</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/hmikaelian_05-06-3.webp" alt="Post Revolutionary Euphoria"  title="Post Revolutionary Euphoria" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Your analysis shows an awfully similar trajectory among the countries you compared. What can be deduced?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="slide-7-_generally-speaking-do-you-think-that-armenia-is-heading-in-the-right-direction-or-the-wrong-direction_">Slide 7: <em>Generally speaking, do you think that Armenia is heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?</em></h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_07.webp" alt="Is Armenia heading in the right direction or the wrong direction"  title="Is Armenia heading in the right direction or the wrong direction" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Nearly 52% (the majority of the country) of the respondents say that the country is going in the wrong direction (compared with 14% in 2018). Is this a dangerous statistic for the Pashinyan regime and does this statistic pose a threat to internal stability?</li>
<li>You also looked at these numbers in detail based on the disaggregation group. What did you learn from that analysis?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="trust-in-institutions">Trust In Institutions</h3>
<h4 id="slide-21-how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-work-of-the-following-institutions">Slide 21: How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the work of the following institutions?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_21.webp" alt="Satisfaction with Institutions"  title="Satisfaction with Institutions" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Only church and police get more than 50% approval ratings. All others do not pass.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your overall observation of these results?</li>
<li>What is the likelihood of the church taking the mantle of the struggle for Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="slide-25-how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-work-of-the-armed-forces">Slide 25: How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the work of the Armed forces?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_25.webp" alt="Satisfaction with Armed Forces"  title="Satisfaction with Armed Forces" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>The drop in the rating of the Army seems to be continuing to plummet. In 2019, the army had a 91% approval rating and was the #1 institution. Today, it has a 40% approval rating and a 59% antirating.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a direct relationship between trust in the armed forces and people’s trust in their own security? What are the dangers of such a drop in perception?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="slide-22-how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-work-of-the-police">Slide 22: How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the work of the Police?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_22.webp" alt="Satisfaction with the Police"  title="Satisfaction with the Police" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Huge jump in negative view of the police in public perception. Yet the government raves about it. How come?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="greatest-achievements-and-failures">Greatest Achievements and Failures</h3>
<h4 id="slide-41-what-do-you-think-is-the-biggest-success-of-the-government-during-the-last-6-months">Slide 41: What do you think is the biggest success of the government during the last 6 months?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_41.webp" alt="Biggest Success"  title="Biggest Success" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-42-what-do-you-think-is-the-biggest-failure-of-the-government-during-the-last-6-months">Slide 42: What do you think is the biggest failure of the government during the last 6 months?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_42.webp" alt="Biggest Failure"  title="Biggest Failure" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>To the question: What are the greatest achievements of this government, three quarters of the respondents could not say what they would be. 42% said “none”, 21% said “hard to say”, and 10% said “other”. Those who mentioned achievements listed things like “diplomatic ties”, “road improvements”, etc. and all items were in the single figures.</p>
<p>Meanwhile to the question of what the greatest failures of this government were, 55% of the respondents listed items concerning national security in one form or another, for example, the closure of the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, the failure of the cause of Artsakh, border security, territorial losses, uncertain state of the armed forces, losses in the army, and foreign policy. 6% of respondents said there were no failures by the government, and 21% said it was hard to say.</p>
<p>Additionally, respondents listed these same failures as line items that need to be improved in the coming 6 months.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Respondents seem to be clear in saying that this government has completely failed in its constitutional mission to protect the country and its citizens. How will this message be heard by Pashinyan and his cohort?</li>
<li>Could there be consequences in 6-12 months, if the government hasn’t addressed these issues as indicated in Question/slide 43? For example, could failure translate to certain consequences in the Yerevan mayoral elections?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="perceptions-of-fight-against-corruption">Perceptions of Fight Against Corruption</h3>
<h4 id="slide-34-how-do-you-feel-about-the-direction-of-the-fight-against-corruption-during-the-past-six-months">Slide 34: How do you feel about the direction of the fight against corruption during the past six months?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_34.webp" alt="Fight against Corruption"  title="Fight against Corruption" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-48-what-government-led-anti-corruption-reforms-do-you-know">Slide 48: What government led anti-corruption reforms do you know?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_48.webp" alt="What Anti-corruption Reforms do you know"  title="What Anti-corruption Reforms do you know" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Slides 34 &amp; 48: The ruling party&rsquo;s flagship cause is anti-corruption. Pashinyan came to power in 2018 promising a complete eradication of corruption. Last year in fact he claimed that “systemic corruption” no longer existed in Armenia: This poll indicates that 79% believe either there is no progress, or can’t say what progress there is. All progress areas are in single-figures.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How come?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="perceptions-of-the-economy">Perceptions of the Economy</h3>
<h4 id="slide-39-how-do-you-feel-about-the-direction-of-the-economy-during-the-past-six-months">Slide 39: How do you feel about the direction of the economy during the past six months?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_39.webp" alt="Perception of the Economy"  title="Perception of the Economy" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>According to the government there was a near 14% growth in the economy last year, yet people feel the economy is doing worse now.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hrant in the past we have noted this on our show, how the economic growth is not translating down to a more favorable life for the majority of the people. What do you attribute this to?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>NOTE: WE DID NOT GET TO THE SLIDES BELOW IN THE SHOW DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, SKIP TO THE “CENSUS” SECTION.</strong></p>
<h4 id="slide-24-how-satisfied-or-dissatisfied-are-you-with-the-work-of-the-prime-ministers-office">Slide 24: How satisfied or dissatisfied are you with the work of the Prime Minister’s Office?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_24.webp" alt="Satisfaction with PM Office"  title="Satisfaction with PM Office" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Pashinyan approval tanks from 82% to 38%, disapproval goes 17→ 61% while civil contract polls at a max of 21% in slides 18 &amp; 19.</p>
<h3 id="political-parties--public-figures">Political Parties &amp; Public Figures</h3>
<p>The questions about political parties and political figures show a continuing decline in the ratings of all major players across the board, specifically considering Nikol Pashinyan and his Civil Contract party, as well as the parliamentary opposition.</p>
<h4 id="slide-17-which-politician-or-public-person-do-you-trust-the-most-and-the-second-most">Slide 17: Which politician or public person do you trust the most? And the second most?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_17_Poll_Slide_17.webp" alt="Who do you trust most"  title="Who do you trust most" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-18-which-political-party-or-alliance-if-any-you-would-vote-for-if-national-parliamentary-elections-were-held-next-sunday">Slide 18: Which political party or alliance, if any, you would vote for if national parliamentary elections were held next Sunday?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_18.webp" alt="What Political Party or Alliance"  title="What Political Party or Alliance" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s rating is down ?????</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="slide-19-which-political-party-or-alliance-if-any-you-would-vote-for-if-national-parliamentary-elections-were-held-next-sunday-22">Slide 19: Which political party or alliance, if any, you would vote for if national parliamentary elections were held next Sunday?* 2/2</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_19.webp" alt="What Party Would you Vote For"  title="What Party Would you Vote For" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-20-which-political-party-or-alliance-if-any-you-would-vote-for-if-national-parliamentary-elections-were-held-next-sunday">Slide 20: Which political party or alliance, if any, you would vote for if national parliamentary elections were held next Sunday?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_20.webp" alt="What Party Would you Vote For"  title="What Party Would you Vote For" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="the-pollster-and-the-poll">The Pollster and The Poll</h3>
<h4 id="slide-50-how-would-you-evaluate-the-current-state-of-the-relationship-between-armenia-and-">Slide 50: How would you evaluate the current state of the relationship between Armenia and …?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_50.webp" alt="Assessing Foreign Rleationships"  title="Assessing Foreign Rleationships" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h4 id="slide-60-how-would-you-evaluate-the-current-state-of-the-relationship-between-armenia-and-turkey">Slide 60: How would you evaluate the current state of the relationship between Armenia and Turkey?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/252/IRI_Poll_Slide_60.webp" alt="Assessing Relations with Turkey"  title="Assessing Relations with Turkey" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Hrant, the headline of the IRI Poll read as: “IRI Armenia Poll Shows Concerns over National Security, Sharp Divisions on Russia, Improving Relations with Turkey”</p>
<p>The first two points in their headline seem to be intuitive. But the third point, that relations with Turkey are improving, seems to be a bit in contrast with what is going on today. But the poll results apparently indicate that 23% believe that the current state of the relationship between Armenia and Turkey is “good”, which is an increase from December 2021.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What accounts for improvement in people’s perception of Turkey?</li>
<li>Is the jump from 5% to 23% something to write home about, when in the same survey</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="results-of-the-armenian-census">Results of the Armenian Census</h2>
<p>The Armenian Census Bureau <a href="https://armstat.am/am/?nid=157&amp;id=904">released</a> its preliminary numbers on April 23. On October 13, 2022, the permanent population is estimated to be 2.929 million people. The current residents amounted to 2.639 million.</p>
<p>The trend over a quarter century still looks down. The numbers were 3.2 &amp; 3.0 million in 2001, and 3.0 &amp; 2.9 in 2011.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are people continuing to vote with their feet? Is a lack of confidence in the future of the country what is driving people out?</li>
</ul>
<p>Here is the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100066530836548">Armenian Census 2022</a> page on Facebook.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/758389.html">USAID funding</a> for Armenian Media. (Note: the <a href="https://www.osf.am/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ARMENIAN-MEDIA-ADVERTISING-MARKET_ENG-_2_.pdf">overall advertising budget</a> for all major TV stations in Armenia).</li>
<li><strong>Hrant</strong>: External funding influencing Armenia’s foreign policy</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        Armenian News Network Groong - Apr 30, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
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* Update on Armenian-Azeri Negotiations
* Drug Use Epidemic in Armenia
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#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Officially Blocks Berdzor/Lachin Corridor
* Update on Armenian-Azeri Negotiations
* Drug Use Epidemic in Armenia
Episode 251 | Recorded: May 1, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Officially Blocks Berdzor/Lachin Corridor
* Update on Armenian-Azeri Negotiations
* Drug Use Epidemic in Armenia
Episode 251 | Recorded: May 1, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="berdzor-corridor-officially-blocked">Berdzor Corridor Officially Blocked</h2>
<p>Since losing the 44-day war, the Pashinyan administration has framed the necessity to sign the humiliating Nov. 9/10 ceasefire agreement as our only way to keep the remaining 25% of Artsakh as Armenian and to get our POWs back. Almost three years later, our POWs are still in Baku, and meanwhile, the last remaining pro-Armenian point in the statement, the free passage of people and goods through the Lachin corridor, seems to be gone with the latest developments from last week.</p>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-moves-to-block-on-the-eve-of-april-24">Azerbaijan Moves to Block on the Eve of April 24</h3>
<p>Last week on the eve of the 108th commemorations of the Armenian Genocide, Azerbaijan continued its flagrant violations of the November 2020 tripartite agreement they had signed, as its armed forces installed a checkpoint at the entrance to the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, on the Hagari bridge.</p>
<p>Following that, just a couple of days ago, Aliyev’s assistant came to Shushi and told their pretend “eco-activists” that now that the corridor was fully blocked, their demands were mostly met, and so now they’re gone. I think he said “new realities have been created since April 23”, referring to Azerbaijan setting up the border checkpoint on the corridor.</p>
<p>Since the blockade started, Armenian authorities and analysts have consistently warned about the danger of Azerbaijan’s demands of a checkpoint. Back in January, then foreign minister of Artsakh David Babayan <a href="https://www.aravot-en.am/2023/01/26/318602/">said</a>:</p>
<pre><code>“... if someone does not realize what it is and approaches it theoretically and considers that customs point as a possible customs point between Belgium and Luxembourg, he is terribly mistaken. They will not be customs points but points of kidnapping and arrest of Armenians; this is clear.”
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are we facing, if the checkpoint remains in place?</li>
<li>The bridge is adjacent to new heights near the village of Tegh/Kornidzor that Azerbaijan took at the end of March, without firing a single bullet. Do you think that this move to install a checkpoint would be possible without the occupation of the heights? Shouldn’t we view the establishment of the checkpoint as a continuation of the tactical moves that started in March?</li>
<li>Some people are describing these moves as tightening the screws, or precipitating the existing humanitarian crisis, all of which is right, but the reality is that in the face of Russia and even the West continuously calling for the implementation of the Nov 2020 ceasefire agreement, Azerbaijan is now officially showing the finger to Russia and saying: what are you going to do about it? Do you think these Azeri moves are coordinated with Russia, or The West, or Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russian-peacekeeping-head-changed">Russian Peacekeeping Head Changed</h3>
<p>Immediately after the incident, Russia replaced the head of their peacekeeping mission in Artsakh. Gen. Alexander Lentsov replaced Gen. Andrei Volkov. Baku has already <a href="https://jam-news.net/change-of-russian-peacekeeper-command/">dismissed</a> the change as irrelevant to their plans and the state of affairs. Lentsov is reportedly a “friend of Shoigu”, the Russian defense minister, and he has long <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/parzabanum/51107/">experience</a> in Russian armed forces including Afghanistan, the first and second Chechen wars, assignments in Bosnia, Ossetia, as well as Syria.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Will this change result in anything significant for Armenians? Will Lentsov make any difference for the better, or for worse, for that matter?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-its-russias-problem-no-the-worlds-problem">Armenia: It’s Russia’s Problem, No The World’s Problem</h3>
<p>After the news of the checkpoint, Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109631/">held a phone call</a> with Putin and other international officials, and has vocally put responsibility on Russia to resolve the issue.</p>
<p>We know that especially <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/10/07/statement-following-quadrilateral-meeting-between-president-aliyev-prime-minister-pashinyan-president-macron-and-president-michel-6-october-2022/">since</a> Prague (October, 2022), Armenia has been pursuing a policy of putting full responsibility for the Lachin corridor on Russia, and washing Armenia’s hands off it. Pashinyan has also asked Artsakh to negotiate with Azerbaijan directly. All this, despite being a signatory of the tripartite statement.</p>
<p>In an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ywMbxuJw6w">interview</a> with Armenian Public TV, Armen Grigoryan, Secretary of the National Security Council said that Russia literally “owns” the Lachin corridor. Pashinyan <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ-648ctfsc">said</a> this as well, on Thursday: “Besides Russia no one else should oversee Lachin”. But in the same speech, Pashinyan called for an international representation with a “wide mandate” on the Berdzor/Lachin corridor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are these accurate statements? What does it mean to say that Russia “owns” the Berdzor corridor? What was the point of that statement? What is the point of saying it is Russia’s problem but in the same breath calling for international observers or peacekeepers on the corridor?</li>
<li>Since the 44-day war ceasefire, despite what Armenian leaders are saying or not saying, doing or not doing, isn’t Russia effectively the security guarantor of Artsakh? Is it able to meet this responsibility today? How can we objectively analyze the performance of the Russian peacekeeping contingent?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="international-help">International “Help”</h3>
<p>International players, including France, USA, etc… condemned the move and asked Azerbaijan to open the checkpoint. Blinken <a href="https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1652770997735399426">called</a> Aliyev and said that there should be open movement of people and commerce on the Lachin corridor. French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna was in Armenia, and visited the border, including the new checkpoint at the Lachin corridor. She has been clear and unequivocal in calling for the reopening of the corridor for the free movement of people, and also without mentioning Russia, she called for the parties to respect the ceasefire agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>These statements sound right. And France is great! But really, what can they do? Especially when the statements are sometimes also accompanied by side-statements that message Azerbaijan that no sanctions are being considered against it.</li>
<li>Can France exert any influence in our region?</li>
</ul>
<p>We note that during this same week, just a few days before Colonna’s visit, <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/756703.html">Aliyev was in Bulgaria</a> celebrating another gas deal and promising more gas for Europe.</p>
<h2 id="state-of-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">State of Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<p>In parallel to the blockade of Artsakh, which Azerbaijan claims to be its own matter and Armenia is not objecting, we have a process of negotiations on so-called “peace” between Armenia and Azerbaijan, that is accompanied with an ever-expanding list of demands from Azerbaijan. In the background, we also see that Azerbaijan is actively engaged in military exercises.</p>
<p>The Pashinyan regime meanwhile talks about “peace”. Can we even call it a “peace treaty” if Pashinyan says that whatever he signs will offer no guarantee of peace, or non-violence, or basically anything of value. It seems it’s just a signature for Aliyev to show everyone that he brought Pashinyan to his knees.</p>
<h3 id="eight-demands">Eight Demands</h3>
<p>Let’s begin with the demands. After 4 months of the blockade of Artsakh, judgments from the ICJ and the ICC against Azerbaijan, accompanied by a background of constant military action that claimed casualties almost every week, Azerbaijan’s ambassador to the UN decided to use his time at the UN Security Council meeting on Monday or Tuesday to <a href="https://ru.yerevan.today/107855">spell out eight demands</a> in order to establish peace, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fully withdrawing Armenian military forces from Artsakh</li>
<li>Return 8 “border villages” that he claimed Armenia has occupied</li>
<li>Pay reparations to Azerbaijan</li>
<li>And a number of other vague demands, like “stopping disinformation”, etc.</li>
</ul>
<p>The Armenian side provided a very vague <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32384694.html">response</a> to this statement, saying that they “do not contribute to reducing tensions and establishing peace in the region”, but otherwise, as we’ll see, negotiations are continuing.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think of this constant raising of demands, and adding new ones by Azerbaijan, while at the same time continuing negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-diplomacy">Azerbaijan “Diplomacy”</h3>
<p>There are reports that Azerbaijan has called up over 10,000 reservists and is holding expanded <a href="https://caucasuswatch.de/en/news/azerbaijan-intensifies-military-exercises-in-the-country-and-in-turkey.html">military exercises</a>. They hold these aggressive military drills regularly, in part to show their strength aimed both at Armenia, as well as Iran.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Armenia has held 0 large-scale military exercises since the 44-day war.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you understand the strategy of keeping Armenia completely defenseless?</li>
</ul>
<p>According to the Global Fire Power <a href="https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php">annual listing</a>, Armenia is now ranked 94th most powerful armed forces, while Azerbaijan is 57th. Armenia <a href="https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.php?country1=armenia&amp;country2=azerbaijan">compares</a> very unfavorably in all categories. Here’s a <a href="https://news.az/index.php/news/azerbaijan-outranks-armenia-in-military-strength-rating-by-44-spots">summary article</a> about where things stood in 2020.</p>
<h3 id="the-moscowdc-switcheroo">The Moscow/DC Switcheroo</h3>
<p>For the first time in 6 months, the ministers of foreign affairs of Armenia and Azerbaijan will meet and have marathon negotiations that will last the whole week. But apparently Armenia and Azerbaijan did a “switcheroo” at the last minute and changed the venue.</p>
<ul>
<li>On Thursday, April 27, Maria Zakharova <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/757058.html">said</a> that Russia was organizing a meeting between Bayramov and Mirzoyan in Moscow. She <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2023/04/27/West-failed-to-play-role-of-the-role-of-an-honest-mediator-in-Armenia-Azerbaijan-settlement/920898">underscored</a> that the west had failed in its bid to act as an honest mediator.</li>
<li>Zakharova’s announcement seems to have been <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32382247.html">confirmed</a> by Mirzoyan on the same day.</li>
<li>But only <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/757418.html">two days later</a> on April 29, Armenian media reported that the meeting between the ministers will take place on May 1 (that is today, when we’re recording this). Mirzoyan announced his trip will last for 6 days, 5 nights.</li>
<li>This meeting reportedly may set up a “roadmap to peace”, and if successful, the EU may “close the deal” in a matter of weeks.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>On April 27, when the intention of meeting in Moscow was announced, Azerbaijan had already forcefully installed the illegal checkpoint. What could account for the apparent about-face in holding the negotiations in DC, rather than Moscow?</li>
<li>In the context of the diplomatic maneuvering by Washington, and the high level visit by Colonna, and to remind everyone: the US and France, together with Russia, are the currently dysfunctional OSCE MG co-chairs responsible for finding a permanent solution to Artsakh’s status; what’s the analysis on these current diplomatic efforts by all these co-chair countries, and also in the background, the EU?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="does-armenia-want-to-remove-russia-from-the-south-caucasus">Does Armenia Want To Remove Russia From the South Caucasus?</h3>
<p>Going back to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ywMbxuJw6w">interview</a> with Armen Grigoryan on Armenian Public TV, he made some of the most anti-Russian statements by Armenian officials to date.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>In one segment, he said that today, we are in a similar situation to 1914 when. And this is his train of thought:
<ul>
<li>Russia was present in our region</li>
<li>Then Russia got involved in WW1</li>
<li>And afterwards ended up leaving the region</li>
<li>Armenians suffered</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>He alleged that Russia tried to change status quo in “Mountainous Karabakh” in 2020 by “appearing with Peacekeepers there”
<ul>
<li>Was he blaming the Russians for starting the 2020 war or for appearing with peacekeepers?</li>
<li>We know that by Nov. 6-7 Stepanakert was already empty, is he actually upset that the Russians showed up to “change the status quo”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there any truth to Grigoryan’s statements?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="turkish-diplomacy-at-work">Turkish Diplomacy At Work</h3>
<p>Over the weekend, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109926.html">Turkey closed its airspace</a> to Armenian airlines without notice or explanation.</p>
<p>Ironically this bit of “Airspace diplomacy” comes right after the 108th worldwide commemorations of the Armenian Genocide, and also the dedication this past week of a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109584.html">monument to the Nemesis Project</a>, in Yerevan. Not only has Turkey not atoned for its historical sins towards the Armenians, it condemned and insulted diplomats worldwide, most notably the Turkish foreign minister called US president Joe Biden a “<a href="https://www.duvarenglish.com/turkish-fm-calls-us-president-biden-charlatan-over-armenian-genocide-remark-news-62271">charlatan</a>” for asserting the Armenian Genocide.</p>
<p>Incidentally, this ban happened as Aliyev visited Turkey and took well-publicized photo-ops with president and presidential candidate Erdogan, whose re-election bid at present is not a certainty.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>With all this context in mind, was this Turkish move really an “unexpected” turn of events?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s government thinks that &ldquo;normalization&rdquo; with Turkey will mean that there’s a reliable partner next door that Armenia can trade with and prosper.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the lesson here?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="drug-use-in-armenia-poligraf-raid">Drug Use in Armenia, Poligraf Raid</h2>
<h3 id="startling-drug-statistics">Startling Drug Statistics</h3>
<p>Recently the prosecutor general’s office in their <a href="https://www.prosecutor.am/am/mn/9042/">yearly report</a> to the National Assembly provided some sobering <a href="https://www.prosecutor.am/myfiles/files/reports/Full_Report_2022.pdf">statistics</a> about drug use and drug dealing in Armenia. Instances of drug distribution have risen 76.39% (from 917 in 2021 to 1717 in 2022).</p>
<p>As startling as these figures are, it should be noted that these are just official statistics about open criminal cases. <a href="https://youtu.be/zVXZh23TEEU">According</a> to Ruzanna Yeremyan, the director of “<a href="https://www.facebook.com/miasinkaroxenqhk/">Together We Can</a>” NGO in a Civilnet interview, this may be the tip of the iceberg, partly because much of the distribution of illicit narcotics happens through encrypted apps such as Telegram. We also know that Armenian society in general looks very negatively on drug use, thus many affected families try to hide the problem both from health and law enforcement authorities.</p>
<p>The NGO, which monitors social media for drug-related business, counted more than 3000 shops in Telegram actively engaged in sales. And according to Yeremyan, the most dangerous drugs, such as methamphetamines and other synthetic drugs, are in highest demand due to their relatively low cost.</p>
<p>The problem is especially affecting the <a href="https://infoport.am/am/news/right/anchapahasneri-shrjanum-tmranyuteri-ogtagortsman-lrjaguyn-martahraver-unenq-petq-e-irakanacnel-nakhakankhman-lurj-ashkhatanq-glkhavor-datakhaz">youth</a> and seems to have infiltrated into schools and even the armed forces according to opposition MP Artsvik Minasyan who also <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-esYIPd964">alleges</a> that distribution of narcotics is done under sponsorship of individuals in political power.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur, in our previous interactions off the record, you have talked to us about what you personally observed. Can you tell us, in your own assessment, how serious do you think this issue is?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="poligraf-raid">Poligraf Raid</h3>
<p>Arthur, we talked about this in private in the past and it seems that the problem is also really prevalent in certain night clubs. On April 25, 2023 the Armenian <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/125555">police</a> <a href="https://www.aravot.am/tag/%D5%BA%D5%B8%D5%AC%D5%AB%D5%A3%D6%80%D5%A1%D6%86-%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B4%D5%A2/">raided</a> one of the more well-known “underground” clubs, Poligraf. Up to 40 individuals were detained. Club owners and attendees allege that police used excessive force.</p>
<p>The discussions around this evolved in two directions, focusing on activities of the police and to a lesser extent talking about the epidemic and what to do about it. <a href="https://twitter.com/unzippedblog/status/1650440866526265351">Some</a> well known civil society personalities called this a deliberate attack against sexual minorities under the pretense of a drug raid. Other NGO community members <a href="https://twitter.com/epressam/status/1650240373925507076">condemned</a> the excessive use of force. There was also coverage about the drug problem from various angles, such as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXZh23TEEU&amp;feature=youtu.be">experts</a> who deal with the problem of drug abuse criticized the NGOs for focusing too much on civil liberties while an epidemic of drug abuse is raging.</p>
<p>It’s also interesting to hear the solutions offered by different political camps. The liberal camp suggests that we shouldn’t raid clubs or increase enforcement and instead the government should control the entry of drugs into Armenia from the porous borders, mostly Iran. Conservatives are calling for stricter law enforcement, including in the clubs.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So it seems that similar to the US so-called “war on drugs”, every stakeholder is blaming the others for the problem. Are Armenians having the right conversation, to tackle this drug problem in the country?</li>
<li>What was your take on the Poligraf raid? Was it heavy handed, was it the right move, did it target the drug problem appropriately, what did you think of the event?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="tackling-the-problem">Tackling the Problem</h3>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/zVXZh23TEEU">According</a> to Ruzanna Yeremyan, most of the drugs are imported into Armenia. Some of the <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/78181">largest</a> drug busts on our borders have happened on the Southern border with Iran. International organizations have <a href="https://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2010/World_Drug_Report_2010_lo-res.pdf">recognized</a> that Armenia could be a potential route for Afghani opioids Northward towards the Russian markets. It seems now, Armenia itself is becoming a destination for drugs, rather than a transit point.</p>
<p>But let’s not forget the demand side of the problem. There is this notion that certain clubs in Armenia are fostering an atmosphere friendly for drug use and away from the eyes of law enforcement. There are even allegations that certain clubs in Armenia are making immense profit from allowing drugs to be dealt in their premises and even shocking allegations that some clubs directly engage in dealing themselves.</p>
<p>In a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oNfdKup4hg">panel discussion</a> on the issue hosted by Factor TV, a member of DJ Vaccina, Arusik Mkrtchyan, alleged that certain clubs even lace their drinks with drugs, unbeknownst to customers, as a way to introduce them to the substance. Let’s also recall MP Artsvik Minasyan’s allegations about sponsorship of drug business from members of the government.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where do we start tackling the drug problem: is it a border control issue, a law enforcement issue, an education issue, is it a consumer problem or a provider problem?</li>
</ul>
<p>It’s interesting to note that Azeri press often mentions drug seizures on the Iranian border. I’ve never seen the Armenian press mention any drug seizures.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are there entrenched stakeholders within the circles of power who do not want to tackle or solve this problem?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong>: Armenians attending concerts while Genocide looms.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong>: One year anniversary of the death of Sona Mnatsakanyan by Pashinyan’s motorcade, and nobody held accountable.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Asbed Bedrossian
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        Armenian News Network Groong - Apr 28, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 250, Apr 28, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 28, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin/Berdzor Corridor [Blocked](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32375832.html) on April 23
* So-called “Eco-activists” Have Left.
* Armenian [Rejects](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109855.html) Discussions on Corridor Conditions
* Does the Government have a plan?
* Lentsov Replaces Volkov
* Artsakh [Farmers Fired Upon](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109847.html) - Again
* Would Artsakhtsis accept Azerbaijani Citizenship?
Episode 250 | Recorded: April 28, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 250, Apr 28, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 28, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin/Berdzor Corridor [Blocked](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32375832.html) on April 23
* So-called “Eco-activists” Have Left.
* Armenian [Rejects](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109855.html) Discussions on Corridor Conditions
* Does the Government have a plan?
* Lentsov Replaces Volkov
* Artsakh [Farmers Fired Upon](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109847.html) - Again
* Would Artsakhtsis accept Azerbaijani Citizenship?
Episode 250 | Recorded: April 28, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 250, Apr 28, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 28, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin/Berdzor Corridor [Blocked](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32375832.html) on April 23
* So-called “Eco-activists” Have Left.
* Armenian [Rejects](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109855.html) Discussions on Corridor Conditions
* Does the Government have a plan?
* Lentsov Replaces Volkov
* Artsakh [Farmers Fired Upon](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1109847.html) - Again
* Would Artsakhtsis accept Azerbaijani Citizenship?
Episode 250 | Recorded: April 28, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        Armenian News Network Groong - April 23, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Genocide: 108 Anniversary
* Azerbaijan Strangles Artsakh
* Artsakh Strangled
* International Community
* Pashinyan’s Parliament Speech
* Madrid Principles
* Aliyev Continues Threats, Ultimatum to Artsakh Armenians
* What Can Diaspora Do?
* Israel - Azerbaijan cooperation against Iran?
* Rants
Episode 249 | Recorded: April 25, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Genocide: 108 Anniversary
* Azerbaijan Strangles Artsakh
* Artsakh Strangled
* International Community
* Pashinyan’s Parliament Speech
* Madrid Principles
* Aliyev Continues Threats, Ultimatum to Artsakh Armenians
* What Can Diaspora Do?
* Israel - Azerbaijan cooperation against Iran?
* Rants
Episode 249 | Recorded: April 25, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenian Genocide: 108 Anniversary
* Azerbaijan Strangles Artsakh
* Artsakh Strangled
* International Community
* Pashinyan’s Parliament Speech
* Madrid Principles
* Aliyev Continues Threats, Ultimatum to Artsakh Armenians
* What Can Diaspora Do?
* Israel - Azerbaijan cooperation against Iran?
* Rants
Episode 249 | Recorded: April 25, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="topics-this-week">Topics This Week</h1>
<h2 id="108th-anniversary">108th Anniversary</h2>
<p>Talk about statements around the world and the surreal sense that while countries are condemning a genocide of 100+ years ago, another one is occuring right now.</p>
<p>Then talk about Pashinyan&rsquo;s reference to Aragats (meaning that we don&rsquo;t appreciate what we have and we yearn for Ararat).</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>From a negotiating perspective why is it important to push genocide recognition?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-strangles-artsakh">Azerbaijan strangles Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="artsakh-strangled">Artsakh Strangled</h3>
<p>After weeks of fears of yet another escalation in the blockade of Artsakh, on Saturday, on the eve of the April 24th Armenian Genocide commemoration, Azerbaijan officially made the move. They transported equipment and manpower to the bridge on the Hagari river that is the only way in and out of Artsakh in order to build a checkpoint, something that is in direct contravention of the November 9/10, 2020, statement which guarantees free passage across the Berdzor/Lachin corridor.</p>
<p>The Azerbaijanis are setting up their checkpoint smack in front of a big Russian peacekeeper base and observation point. The Russian MOD officially claimed that Azerbaijan made the move <a href="https://mil.ru/russian_peacekeeping_forces/bulletins/more.htm?id=12465190@egNews">unilaterally and in an uncoordinated manner</a>.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/249/hakari.webp" alt="Hakari Bridge with Azerbaijani equipment"  title="Hakari Bridge with Azerbaijani equipment" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/NKobserver/status/1650564689233862663">@nkobserver </a></p>
<p>This news unfortunately wasn’t a surprise to almost anyone. In the days leading up to their latest actions, Azerbaijani propaganda spread fake news that Armenian military forces, supported by Russian peacekeepers, were transporting arms to Artsakh. At the end of March, Azerbaijanis had made further encroachments into the Armenian side of the border establishing control of important heights that overlook the road to the bridge. On April 6, Naira Melikyan, mother of fallen hero Hayk Melikyan, reported to us that she was prevented from reaching that same bridge by Armenian border guards amidst claims that Azerbaijanis were planning to install posts or checkpoints. Check out <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/245-naira-melikyan-turned-away-at-kornidzor-post/">Episode 245</a> to hear that report.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur, were you surprised? What do these latest moves by Azerbaijan achieve?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Armenian MFA, again, appealed to the Russians to unblock the corridor claiming it is their responsibility. Also, the Pashinyan government said that they would apply to the ICJ, but we already know how that went last time. Almost all major <a href="https://twitter.com/USEmbassyBaku/status/1650215685639872513">global</a> and regional powers again expressed their “concern”, and some even made calls for Azerbaijan to cease and desist from provocations, but nothing more than that. If anything, the US ambassador to Armenia <a href="https://168.am/2023/04/24/1864616.html">noted again</a> this week that no sanctions are being considered against Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the role of regional powers in all this? We have mentioned repeatedly that Azerbaijan is important for all players due to its acting as an energy corridor, so that is understood. But are they truly powerless to prevent Azerbaijan from blatantly transgressing its international obligations, with complete impunity? Or, do they simply not want to, because the interests of all these major powers are orthogonal to Armenian national interests?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyans-parliament-speech">Pashinyan’s Parliament Speech</h3>
<p>So as we said, this move by Azerbaijan was not a surprise, but just so we didn’t have any doubts which way the Armenian authorities think, earlier in the week Pashinyan produced many shocking headlines. By the way, this was the same session by the way where opposition parliamentarians were forcefully expelled from the parliament by National Security Service employees in cooperation with Pashinyan’s bodyguards. In a multi-day parliament session, where Pashinyan was giving a report about the government&rsquo;s 2022 program, Pashinyan made official statements explicitly recognizing Azerbaijan’s Soviet borders, which many analysts say would imply that Artsakh is recognized as part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>This is the same guy who in 2018 and 2019 was saying that “Artsakh is Armenia and that’s that”!</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who are these statements by Pashinyan intended for? The Armenian public? Aliyev? Others?</li>
</ul>
<p>When asked to elaborate on whether he recognizes Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan, Pashinyan didn’t give a direct answer but as is customary he blamed the former leadership of Armenia, saying that the former leaders of Armenia already recognized Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan by agreeing to the Madrid Principles. He explained this by the existence of the principle of “territorial integrity” as one of the three principles of that document (the other two being non-use of force and self-determination). Pashinyan also said that if he’s guilty of anything, it&rsquo;s that he hasn’t been honest with the people of Armenia that the “game is over”. This drew a rare rebuke from Vardan Oskanian, a former minister of foreign affairs during second president Robert Kocharyan.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain how much credence we should give to Pashinyan’s arguments that Armenia had agreed to Artsakh being part of Azerbaijan within the context of the Madrid Principles?</li>
</ul>
<p>Arthur, before we go to the next section, is there anything else that caught your attention from Pashinyan’s speeches this past week?</p>
<h3 id="aliyev-continues-threats-gives-ultimatum-to-artsakh-armenians">Aliyev Continues Threats, Gives Ultimatum to Artsakh Armenians</h3>
<p>In what appears to be an act of coordinated timing (or a very big coincidence), the same day that Pashinyan made the scandalous announcement in the Armenian parliament, Aliyev made his own statements.</p>
<p>First, to the government of Artsakh, Aliyev said that Armenians of Artsakh should either adopt Azerbaijani citizenship or leave. This was in response to the offer of the Artsakh government to meet in order to coordinate on important issues - without explicitly agreeing to Azerbaijan’s demands for talks on integration.</p>
<p>Next, he said that in Prague in 2022 Armenia finally agreed to the so-called territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, but Pashinyan needs to do more. Aliyev said that since Pashinyan said that “Artsakh is Armenia, Եւ Վերջ”, he should now explicitly say “Karabakh is Azerbaijan”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>It is clear that Armenia has left Artsakh alone in this fight. But from a negotiations perspective, what can Artsakh authorities do? Can they rely on Armenians in Armenia or Diaspora for support, for instance, without coordinating with Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israel---azerbaijan-cooperation-against-iran">Israel - Azerbaijan cooperation against Iran?</h2>
<p>While the open war of words between Iran and Azerbaijan has been reduced slightly,  the Azerbaijani embassy in Iran still continues to be closed and so far we are not seeing signs that the tension will abate anytime soon. Instead, we’re seeing further cooperation between Baku and Iran’s enemies such as the US and Israel. Just <a href="https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1650592081142751252">today</a> (April 25), the US announced a new set of sanctions against Iran, in conjunction with the UK.</p>
<p>And last week, the foreign minister of Israel, Eli Cohen, was in Baku. That visit <a href="https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-739657">came</a> in the wake of Azerbaijan opening its embassy in Israel. Public messaging underscored that Azerbaijan and Israel are strategic partners and that both countries see Iran as a threat. There were also reports of defense deals, <a href="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2023-04-24/ty-article/israel-aerospace-industries-to-supply-azerbaijan-with-satellites/00000187-b271-d803-ad8f-fe717ffb0000">specifically</a> that Azerbaijan will be acquiring two satellites from Israel.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see the issue between Iran and Azerbaijan developing? Will it move to an open confrontation or is there potential for managing the tensions?</li>
<li>Can Armenia do anything to derive benefit, or at least stay safe from the ramping crisis between Iran and Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Arthur -</strong> Indelible influence of Genocide on identity.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik -</strong> Pashinyan on Church calls for his resignation.</li>
</ol>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you everyone!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/249/thumbnail-249.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/249/thumbnail-249.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12723781-armenian-genocide-anniversary-artsakh-in-stranglehold-israel-azerbaijan-ep-249-apr-23-2023.mp3" length="53919065" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4489</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Anna Kostanyan - New HR Ombudswoman Anahit Manasyan | Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia | Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Elections
[EP248]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/248-anna-kostanyan-hr-ombudswoman-anahit-manasyan-azeri-attacks-infiltrations-in-armenia-yerevan-mayor-elections/</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12671210-new-ombudswoman-new-azeri-and-infiltrations-yerevan-elections-ep-248-april-16-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>248</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Kostanyan - New HR Ombudswoman Anahit Manasyan | Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia | Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Elections</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - April 16, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Anna Kostanyan](/guest/akostanyan)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Anna Kostanyan and Hamakhmbum (Consolidation) Movement
* New HR Ombudswoman Anahit Manasyan
* Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia
* Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Elections
Episode 248 | Recorded: April 16, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Anna Kostanyan](/guest/akostanyan)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Anna Kostanyan and Hamakhmbum (Consolidation) Movement
* New HR Ombudswoman Anahit Manasyan
* Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia
* Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Elections
Episode 248 | Recorded: April 16, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Anna Kostanyan](/guest/akostanyan)
#### Topics:
* Intro to Anna Kostanyan and Hamakhmbum (Consolidation) Movement
* New HR Ombudswoman Anahit Manasyan
* Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia
* Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Elections
Episode 248 | Recorded: April 16, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="introduction-to-anna-kostanyan">Introduction to Anna Kostanyan</h2>
<p>Ms. Kostanyan, since this is your first time on our show let us take a couple of minutes to introduce you to our listeners.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What drew you to politics?
<ul>
<li>What are your goals in politics? What do you hope to achieve, both for yourself as well as for our country?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What is your current relationship with Bright Armenia?</li>
<li>You are a member of the board of the Consolidation (“Hamakhmbum”) movement. What is this organization, and what is its relationship 5165?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="anahit-manasyan-selected-hr-ombudswoman">Anahit Manasyan Selected HR Ombudswoman</h2>
<p>Three months after the resignation of Kristine Grigoryan, the Civil Contract party installed a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108478.html">new HR Ombudswoman</a>: former deputy prosecutor Anahit Manasyan. Grigoryan resigned in January 2023 and legally, the government had 1 month to appoint a new candidate, but that went delinquent until earlier this month when they finally got around to it.</p>
<p>Manasyan was elected on a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32360597.html">strict party line vote</a> by the ruling party, pretty much as was expected. The parliamentary opposition first did not propose its own candidate, but later came around to propose Edgar Ghazaryan, but his <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32349432.html">hearings in the parliament</a> did not go well.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What happened there?</li>
</ul>
<p>We know that Arman Tatoyan has set an impossibly high bar for the HR ombuds office, he was superlative.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Manasyan well-suited for this position? As a prosecutor, not a defender, does she have the empathy it takes to understand and defend those who have been abused and mistreated?</li>
<li>As the hand-picked selection of the ruling party, does Manasyan have the level of needed independence from the government, or the ruling party, to protect citizens from a government that has, even according to western NGOs, fallen off the democratic horse?</li>
<li>Manasyan’s predecessor, Grigoryan, pretty much ignored all government abuses of power against its citizens. Should we expect continuity of a similarly one-sided approach to HR accountability in Armenia under Manasyan?</li>
<li>Even Manasyan’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108586.html">statement</a> of acceptance was mostly focused on the government vs. the people. This is an interesting, implicit acknowledgment of problems inside the country. Is anyone thinking of our POWs in Baku anymore?</li>
</ul>
<p>Recently there was another quarrel between two MPs in parliament. Hayastan Alliance MP Mher Sahakyan allegedly assaulted Civil Contract party MP Vladimir Vardanyan. Sahakyan was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32344087.html">arrested</a> then <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32347678.html">released</a> while the ruling party <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32361003.html">voted</a> to strip him of diplomatic immunity, per prosecutor general Anna Vardapetyan’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108294.html">instructions</a>, and now hooliganism charges are being filed against Sahakyan. The vote was 65-0, on a party line, in the same session that Civil Contract voted in their ombudswoman.</p>
<p>Our immediate interest here is not really what happened between Sahakyan and Vardanyan, but rather about the uneven application of the law to ruling party functionaries, as opposed to those who do not support the government.</p>
<p>For example, the very recent case of parliament speaker Alen Simonyan allegedly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32352524.html">spitting on a citizen</a> in public; special police guards roughing up <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32363970.html">protesting parents</a> of fallen soldiers; or ruling party parliamentarians kicking opposition MPs, threatening them with physical harm; or the ruling party standing by <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32326690.html">corrupt judges</a>; credible allegations by international organizations of state sponsored cyberspying on Armenian journalists; and so on.</p>
<p>None of these have seen any action or follow-through by the ministry of justice.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you share your thoughts on the state of the justice department under this administration?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azeri-attacks-and-infiltrations-into-armenia">Azeri Attacks and Infiltrations into Armenia</h2>
<p>The past month has been another tough month for Armenia, as has been the unfortunate usual since the 44-day war. Counting from March 25, Azeri forces invaded western hills in Artsakh proper to close off a so-called utility road, which had allegedly served as a bypass to their blockade; then around April 2nd Azeri forces stopped a  busload of citizens in a Russian peacekeeper convoy and searched and terrorized them; then last week on April 11 Azeris killed 4 Armenian soldiers as they tried to install new military posts on Armenian sovereign territory. At the same time, two Azeri soldiers infiltrated Syunik from the border with Nakhijevan, and one of them killed an Armenian citizen and gloated about it on video.</p>
<p>Anna, almost all of this is happening without a meaningful response from the Armenian government. All we’ve heard are warnings and complaints to western entities that the worst may be yet to come. Armenian soldiers shot back at the Azeris on April 11, and killed three of their soldiers, but that is a rare occurrence these days.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this government doing enough to keep our citizens and borders safe?</li>
</ul>
<p>Civil Contract MP Andranik Kocharyan made an interesting <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108708.html">statement</a> this week. Instead of his usual slamming of journalists and disparaging of the opposition (this week that job went to Eduard Asryan), he said that it was the Armenian military’s response that stopped Azeri advances on April 11. Leaving alone that he was actually <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108712.html">telling</a> our strategic partner Russia that he didn’t care what they thought that they did to stop the military incident, I haven’t heard Kocharyan say anything positive about Armenia&rsquo;s armed forces, and he’s the chair of the Defense and Security committee in parliament!</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does Andranik Kocharyan’s language introduce a new aspect of Pashinyan’s policy of defending our borders?</li>
<li>Pashinyan hinted after the April 11 events that some of the response by the Armenian side was inadequate and did not conform to his instructions. Asryan was <a href="https://168.am/2023/04/13/1860014.html">defensive and evasive</a> when journalists asked what hadn’t happened. Do you have any ideas what Pashinyan was alluding to?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="yerevan-mayor-less-until-end-of-2023-election">Yerevan Mayor-less Until End of 2023 Election</h2>
<p>A month ago on March 17, Hrachya Sargsyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32323081.html">resigned</a> as the mayor of Yerevan after weeks of speculation that he would do so, in order to open the way for Tigran Avinyan to become the leading contender for the Mayorship. By law the Council of Elders should have met earlier this week to begin the process of replacing the mayor, but the ruling party <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32348965.html">announced</a> instead that they will not elect a new mayor and will wait until the regularly scheduled elections at the end of this year. So Yerevan will not have a mayor for the balance of the year, and the effective “acting mayor” is now Tigran Avinyan.</p>
<p>Anna, you have been a candidate for member of the Yerevan city council.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe the politics of the Council of Elders (Avagani) in this case and what the residents of Yerevan can expect?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Anna -</strong> Calling on all Armenians to understand and realize the gravity of the danger the nation is facing.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik -</strong> On the Azerbaijani flag burning at the EWW event in Yerevan.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/248/thumbnail-248.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/248/thumbnail-248.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12671210-new-ombudswoman-new-azeri-and-infiltrations-yerevan-elections-ep-248-april-16-2023.mp3" length="34106680" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2839</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Raising Flags: Alison on Recent Events in Tegh and Across Armenia | Ep 247 - Apr 14, 2023
[EP247]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/247-alison-tahmizian-meuse-aknandakan-eye-for-an-eye-tegh-ardanish-flag-raising-berdzor-aghavno/</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12651694-raising-flags-alison-on-recent-events-in-tegh-and-across-armenia-ep-247-apr-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>247</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Raising Flags: Alison on Recent Events in Tegh and Across Armenia | Ep 247 - Apr 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - April 14, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Alison Tahmizian Meuse](/guest/ameuse)
#### Topics:
* Aghavno / Berdzor
* April 11 Azeri Aggression Near Tegh
* Raising Flags
* Azeri Infiltrations into Armenia
Episode 247 | Recorded: April 14, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Alison Tahmizian Meuse](/guest/ameuse)
#### Topics:
* Aghavno / Berdzor
* April 11 Azeri Aggression Near Tegh
* Raising Flags
* Azeri Infiltrations into Armenia
Episode 247 | Recorded: April 14, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Alison Tahmizian Meuse](/guest/ameuse)
#### Topics:
* Aghavno / Berdzor
* April 11 Azeri Aggression Near Tegh
* Raising Flags
* Azeri Infiltrations into Armenia
Episode 247 | Recorded: April 14, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="raising-flags-alison-on-recent-events-in-tegh-and-across-armenia">Raising Flags: Alison on Recent Events in Tegh and Across Armenia</h2>
<h3 id="aghavno--berdzor">Aghavno / Berdzor</h3>
<p>In August 2022, you were with a group of friends in Aghavno and called for followers to join you in an attempt to prevent the handover of Berdzor/Aghavno to Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are these events, Berdzor, Aghavno, Jermuk, now Tegh, a consequence of policies of the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="april-11-azeri-aggression-near-tegh">April 11 Azeri Aggression Near Tegh</h3>
<p>The unprovoked Azeri shootings of April 11 killed 4 of our soldiers near Tegh village. A week ago <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/245">we talked with Naira Melikyan</a>, mother of fallen soldier Hayk Melikyan, who tried to visit this region with other concerned parents and activists, and she was prevented by Armenian border guards, who claimed to be stopping her “for her own safety”.</p>
<p>Naira reported that Azeris were building fortifications on Armenian territory, and wanted to see what is going on there. So she was clearly aware of something suspicious going on, and a few days later Azeri shootings killed four of our soldiers. It’s unbelievable that a private citizen can sense the trouble we’re in, yet the government turns a complete blind eye to the safety of Armenian soldiers and citizens, probably even colluding with the enemy in order to fulfill secret agreements that they signed behind the backs of the Armenian people.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your perspective on what has happened near Tegh?</li>
<li>What is the situation near the Kornidzor bridge, and the new road built by Pashinyan’s government that leads to the Berdzor corridor?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azeri-infiltrations-into-armenia">Azeri Infiltrations into Armenia</h3>
<p>Earlier this past week two soldiers were reported to have <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32357619.html">crossed into Armenia</a> from their posts in Nakhijevan. Armenpress reported them as having “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108303.html">gone missing</a>”. One person was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108306.html">found and arrested</a> the same day, and yesterday the second of the two <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108608.html">was apprehended</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Having recently visited Sisian and the region in general, what are your thoughts on these incidents?</li>
<li>Are the communities in the south safe?</li>
<li>Are Armenia’s border guards doing their job?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="parting-thoughts">Parting Thoughts</h2>
<h3 id="alison">Alison</h3>
<ul>
<li>Please get involved. Citizens of Armenia, and Diasporans, please get involved.</li>
<li>Support <a href="https://www.patreon.com/aknandakan">Eye for an Eye</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/aknandakan">Ակն ընդ Ական</a> (Aknandakan), and support our <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/eye-for-an-eyewitness">current fundraiser</a> on GoFundme.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="hovik">Hovik</h3>
<ul>
<li>Refuse to accept misinformation, refuse to accept that the current situation is normal, and refuse to accept that we are helpless. Get involved!</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/247/thumbnail-247.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/247/thumbnail-247.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12651694-raising-flags-alison-on-recent-events-in-tegh-and-across-armenia-ep-247-apr-14-2023.mp3" length="38148259" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3176</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 246, Apr 12, 2023
[EP246]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/246-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230412/</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12641771-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-apr-12-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>246</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 246, Apr 12, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Apr 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 246, Apr 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* April 11 [Azeri Aggression](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359161.html) near Tegh
* What Agency does Artsakh have in keeping links open?
* Bothsidism of [EU](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108515.html) and [Russia](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108511.html) in the face of Azeri Aggression
* Who is to Blame for the Continuing Losses in Armenian Life?
* Reaction of the Armenian Government
* About the EU Mission and its Role and Effectiveness
* Stepanakert [invites](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359288.html) Baku to talks
* Artsakh Farmers [Urged](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108404.html) to work in Russian Presence
Episode 246 | Recorded: April 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 246, Apr 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* April 11 [Azeri Aggression](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359161.html) near Tegh
* What Agency does Artsakh have in keeping links open?
* Bothsidism of [EU](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108515.html) and [Russia](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108511.html) in the face of Azeri Aggression
* Who is to Blame for the Continuing Losses in Armenian Life?
* Reaction of the Armenian Government
* About the EU Mission and its Role and Effectiveness
* Stepanakert [invites](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359288.html) Baku to talks
* Artsakh Farmers [Urged](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108404.html) to work in Russian Presence
Episode 246 | Recorded: April 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 246, Apr 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* April 11 [Azeri Aggression](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359161.html) near Tegh
* What Agency does Artsakh have in keeping links open?
* Bothsidism of [EU](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108515.html) and [Russia](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108511.html) in the face of Azeri Aggression
* Who is to Blame for the Continuing Losses in Armenian Life?
* Reaction of the Armenian Government
* About the EU Mission and its Role and Effectiveness
* Stepanakert [invites](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32359288.html) Baku to talks
* Artsakh Farmers [Urged](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1108404.html) to work in Russian Presence
Episode 246 | Recorded: April 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/246/thumbnail-246.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/246/thumbnail-246.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12641771-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-apr-12-2023.mp3" length="10095709" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>837</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Naira Melikyan: Turned Away at Kornidzor Post | Ep 245 - Apr 7, 2023
[EP245]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/245-naira-melikyan-turned-away-at-kornidzor-post/</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 06:17:08 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12605326-naira-melikyan-turned-away-at-kornidzor-post-ep-245-apr-7-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>245</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Naira Melikyan: Turned Away at Kornidzor Post | Ep 245 - Apr 7, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - April 7, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking Naira Melikyan who shares troubling information from her attempt to travel to Artsakh via the newly built road passing by the village of Kornidzor. Armenian border guards turned away the Miasin group citing security concerns.
Episode 245 | Recorded: April 7, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking Naira Melikyan who shares troubling information from her attempt to travel to Artsakh via the newly built road passing by the village of Kornidzor. Armenian border guards turned away the Miasin group citing security concerns.
Episode 245 | Recorded: April 7, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking Naira Melikyan who shares troubling information from her attempt to travel to Artsakh via the newly built road passing by the village of Kornidzor. Armenian border guards turned away the Miasin group citing security concerns.
Episode 245 | Recorded: April 7, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="accompanying-map">Accompanying Map</h1>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/245/map.jpg" alt="Map"  title="Map of alternate route to Stepanakert" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/245/thumbnail-245.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/245/thumbnail-245.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12605326-naira-melikyan-turned-away-at-kornidzor-post-ep-245-apr-7-2023.mp3" length="22065242" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1835</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan - China Emerging on the Global Stage | Ep 244 - April 5, 2023
[EP244]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/244-benyamin-poghosyan-china-rising--new-world-order-geopolitics/</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2023 00:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12597305-benyamin-poghosyan-china-emerging-on-the-global-stage-ep-244-apr-5-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>244</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan - China Emerging on the Global Stage | Ep 244 - April 5, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - April 5, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* What agreements were reached between China and Russia?
* What is the role of India in the new world order?
* Consequence of moving away from a dollar-denominated global economic order?
* China as peacemaker in Ukraine
* China as peacemaker in the Middle East
* China's role in Iran and South Caucasus
* How should Armenia navigate world order changes?
Episode 244 | Recorded: April 5, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* What agreements were reached between China and Russia?
* What is the role of India in the new world order?
* Consequence of moving away from a dollar-denominated global economic order?
* China as peacemaker in Ukraine
* China as peacemaker in the Middle East
* China's role in Iran and South Caucasus
* How should Armenia navigate world order changes?
Episode 244 | Recorded: April 5, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* What agreements were reached between China and Russia?
* What is the role of India in the new world order?
* Consequence of moving away from a dollar-denominated global economic order?
* China as peacemaker in Ukraine
* China as peacemaker in the Middle East
* China's role in Iran and South Caucasus
* How should Armenia navigate world order changes?
Episode 244 | Recorded: April 5, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="china-emerging-on-the-global-stage">China Emerging on the Global Stage</h3>
<p>More and more in the US it has become evident that China is emerging on the world stage as a power that is shifting the balance of geopolitical multipolarity. From the recent concerns about Tiktok and the US congressional hearings that may lead to its banning from the US, to the economic sanctions on large numbers of products and industries in trade between the US and China, it’s obvious that the larger global struggle is no longer between The West and Russia, but rather between The West and China.</p>
<p>In this context, Chinese president Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow was a major milestone for cementing their strategic partnership. For China, this helps keep the West, west of Russia. For Russia, this keeps them economically solvent.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>1.1 What agreements were signed during the Chinese president’s visit to Moscow, and what are the global repercussions of this partnership?</li>
<li>1.2 Along with China, India is a rising power on the world stage. What is the role of India in the new world order?</li>
<li>1.3   When evaluating the outcome of the summit, people point to security and energy agreements and arrangements. So in this context one thing that sparked our attention is the agreement by China, one of the world’s largest technology exporters, and Russia, the world’s largest energy exporter,<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/22/china-and-russia-affirm-multi-year-economic-cooperation.html"> to use local currency</a> to denominate contracts. How consequential is this decision in moving away from a dollar-denominated global economic order?</li>
</ul>
<p>In flexing its emergent powers, China has engaged in international peacemaking efforts. For example China again proposed a ceasefire in Ukraine. China also successfully brokered an agreement between Saudi Arabia and Iran. The two long-time adversaries agreed to lower tensions and open embassies within a couple of months.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>China again pushed its proposals on a ceasefire in Ukraine, which Putin agreed to, he said, if The West accepted it as well. What did China’s proposal bring to the table, in the situation in Ukraine?</li>
<li>Generally the West has relied on the blockage of the Iran-Saudi Arabia relationship, to further isolate Iran. How does this affect the balance of relations in the Middle East? For example between Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, and Egypt and Israel? How do you view this Chinese achievement on the world stage?</li>
<li>What is China’s relationship with Iran? How do you see China’s policy evolving in the South Caucasus?
<ul>
<li>Note: Iran has close relations with India, a rival of China, and its “Brick and Road” initiative.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>We talked with Suren Sargsyan yesterday, and he thinks that the Iran-Saudi agreement is important not only for the greater middle east and China, but will also bring benefits for Armenia, in the form of increased attention and resources to the South Caucasus by Iran.</p>
<p>In fact, Iran’s FM Abdollahian was in Moscow last week and the two countries are also working on a greater strategic partnership. Among a wide variety of issues discussed, was the crisis in Artsakh and Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you see Armenia navigating these sweeping world order changes?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today, thank you Benyamin!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/244/thumbnail-244.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/244/thumbnail-244.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12597305-benyamin-poghosyan-china-emerging-on-the-global-stage-ep-244-apr-5-2023.mp3" length="36258476" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3018</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 243, Apr 4, 2023
[EP243]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/243-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230404/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12590720-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-apr-4-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>243</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 243, Apr 4, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Apr 4, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 243, Apr 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Complete gas cutoff for 2 weeks
* Weather clearing, rolling blackouts alleviate
* Young farmer [hits landmine](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107913.html)
* Azeris Tighten Blockade on March 25
* Situation with the Sarsang Reservoir
* Artsakh FM [meets](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107631.html) French Delegation in Yerevan
* What do Western Statements mean to us?
* What do they signal to Azerbaijan?
Episode 243 | Recorded: April 4, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 243, Apr 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Complete gas cutoff for 2 weeks
* Weather clearing, rolling blackouts alleviate
* Young farmer [hits landmine](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107913.html)
* Azeris Tighten Blockade on March 25
* Situation with the Sarsang Reservoir
* Artsakh FM [meets](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107631.html) French Delegation in Yerevan
* What do Western Statements mean to us?
* What do they signal to Azerbaijan?
Episode 243 | Recorded: April 4, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 243, Apr 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - April 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Complete gas cutoff for 2 weeks
* Weather clearing, rolling blackouts alleviate
* Young farmer [hits landmine](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107913.html)
* Azeris Tighten Blockade on March 25
* Situation with the Sarsang Reservoir
* Artsakh FM [meets](https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107631.html) French Delegation in Yerevan
* What do Western Statements mean to us?
* What do they signal to Azerbaijan?
Episode 243 | Recorded: April 4, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/243/thumbnail-243.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/243/thumbnail-243.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12590720-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-apr-4-2023.mp3" length="6705019" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>555</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Suren Sargsyan - Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh, East West Negotiation Platforms, Armenia and the Rome Statute | Ep 242 - Apr 2, 2023
[EP242]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/242-suren-sargsyan-azerbaijan-tactical-advances-armenia-at-democracy-summit-rome-statute-iran-fm-in-moscow-azeri-fm-in-israel/</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12584249-azerbaijan-advances-in-armenia-armenia-at-the-democracy-summit-armenia-and-the-rome-statute-iran-fm-in-moscow-azeri-fm-in-israel-ep-242-apr-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>242</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Suren Sargsyan - Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh, East West Negotiation Platforms, Armenia and the Rome Statute | Ep 242 - Apr 2, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Apr 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijan Invades, Pashinyan "Explains"
* Armenia at the Democracy Summit
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
* Iran FM in Moscow, Azeri FM in Israel
Episode 242 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijan Invades, Pashinyan "Explains"
* Armenia at the Democracy Summit
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
* Iran FM in Moscow, Azeri FM in Israel
Episode 242 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijan Invades, Pashinyan "Explains"
* Armenia at the Democracy Summit
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
* Iran FM in Moscow, Azeri FM in Israel
Episode 242 | Recorded: April 3, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijan-invades-pashinyan-explains">Azerbaijan Invades, Pashinyan “Explains”</h2>
<p>In the past two weeks Azerbaijan has made a number of moves on the line of contact with Artsakh and Armenia and occupied additional Armenian territories.</p>
<p>In Artsakh, on March 25, one move <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32334147.html">aimed</a> at controlling a dirt road that they allege was being used to supply Artsakh with weapons from Armenia - this is a lie of course. Russia blamed Azerbaijan for breaking the Ceasefire Agreement of November 2020, while the US “<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32337825.html">expressed concern</a>” about this aggression as well. Still so far as we know, the Azerbaijani forces now have the dirt road under fire control. Azerbaijani social media circulated <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tBq8wE8ocQ">video evidence</a> of what they allege is control of <a href="https://twitter.com/Aeternum7/status/1642878374086340608">two</a> heights in the Shushi region directly overlooking the road.</p>
<p>In Armenia, on March 30 (or before), another move <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32343733.html">aimed</a> at controlling certain <a href="https://168.am/2023/03/28/1852494.html">heights</a> around Tegh, on the alternative road to the Lachin/Berdzor corridor which Armenia’s government is barely now completing, 8 months after they handed Berdzor to Azerbaijan. It’s a little hard to understand this <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107548.html">incident</a>, but it‘s related to the early handing over of Berdzor to Azerbaijan, and probably concession by Pashinyan behind the backs of the Armenian people. According to the Armenian National Security Service, Aliyev <a href="https://www.sns.am/hy/news/view/830">jumped the gun</a> on an April 1 deadline to complete the alternative road and assume new positions, and instead advanced reportedly 200+ meters into Armenian border territory, and is digging bunkers in <a href="https://twitter.com/Aeternum7/status/1641330888020459521">5 new positions</a> on the heights overlooking Aravus, Tegh, and Kornidzor, depriving the use of nearby fields by local farmers, who can no longer farm.</p>
<p>The strategic heights in Armenia, which Azerbaijan occupied without firing a single shot, have allowed the Azerbaijani troops to come extremely close to the road that the Armenian government is now building to replace the previous one and control nearby territory. Cartographer Rouben Galichian meanwhile <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4D90T6v6uY">says</a> that the newly constructed road has been built in such a way as to cross into and out of Azerbaijan. This could give Azerbaijan the pretense to disrupt the communications even on the new road.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/242/Galichian-map.jpeg" alt="Source: Rouben Galichian on Shant News"  title="Rouben Galichian on Shant News" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

<p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/242/Galichian-map-detail.png" alt="Source: Rouben Galichian (detail) on Shant News"  title="Rouben Galichian (detail) on Shant News" class="img-fluid" />
</p>

Rouben Galichian on Shant News</p>
<p>Hrant Bagratian, former prime minister of Armenia, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFJFTQD71fc">believes</a> that Aliyev intends to establish a checkpoint first Azerbaijani segment, thereby bypassing the zone of responsibility of Russian peacekeepers.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the current state of affairs on the line of contact between Armenians and Azerbaijan? Both Armenian and Artsakh front lines? What do you make of these incidents, and the Armenian response to them?</li>
<li>Are these strategic or tactical developments?</li>
<li>Regarding Artsakh, are the Russian peacekeepers doing their job?</li>
</ul>
<p>Last week the head of the EU mission to Armenia (EUMA) <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107453.html">said</a> that if Armenia doesn’t get attacked this spring, then the mission will have done its job. Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32340623.html">slammed</a> this statement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Have we heard from the EU monitors on this latest act of invasion?</li>
<li>Is the EUMA providing value?</li>
</ul>
<p>Earlier we said that news about the Azerbaijani movements in Armenia was hard to understand, simply because the information being supplied to Armenians by their government is apparently full of half-truths and manipulation. Initially, the Armenian NSS <a href="https://www.sns.am/hy/news/view/830">said</a> that there has been no change in Armenian positions without admitting that at the same time Azerbaijan has moved forward significantly to occupy strategic heights. There are now reports that Azerbaijanis are shooting at Armenian positions, demanding that they be moved back.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is the Armenian government’s communication in regards to these events?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-at-the-democracy-summit">Armenia at the Democracy Summit</h2>
<p>While the borders of Armenia are experiencing all sorts of instability, and soldiers are dying on the line of contact almost every week, Pashinyan was busy <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32340512.html">attending</a> the US president Joe Biden’s <a href="https://hdp.house.gov/summit-democracy-2023">Democracy Summit</a> 2023. Turkey and Azerbaijan were not invited to this summit; neither was Russia; The Kremlin’s Peskov <a href="https://tass.com/politics/1596011">dismissed</a> the summit as something that “can hardly be regarded as a serious event”.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Suren, we know that you watch this event carefully. What struck you as important this year?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32342172.html">declined</a> to fully endorse the summit declaration and join other states at the summit in condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was this a plus for Armenian diplomacy?</li>
<li>Is Armenia reaping any benefits from this summit? What was achieved with Pashinyan’s presence at the event?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia-and-the-rome-statute">Armenia and the Rome Statute</h2>
<p>Two weeks ago Armenia’s constitutional court approved the legality of the parliament ratifying the Rome Statute - which is the treaty that established the International Criminal Court (ICC). Ratifying this statute means that the country legally commits to uphold the decisions issued by the ICC. And as we know two weeks ago the ICC issued an <a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/03/1134732">arrest warrant</a> for Russian president Vladimir Putin.</p>
<p>Obviously this puts Armenia, in fact all countries that have tried to steer clear of the global crisis between Russia and The West, or even pretended to stay neutral in their statements regarding the war in Ukraine, to pick sides.</p>
<p>The Armenian constitutional court started considering this issue back in December of 2022, when the Putin arrest mandate had not been issued. The court’s approval drew a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32336608.html">sharp response</a> from Russia to Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think of the timing of this approval by the court? After all these months, why would they issue an approval for the parliament to consider ratifying the Rome Statute at such a delicate moment? Do you see advantages, and disadvantages of the approval?</li>
<li>Given the current global whirlwind shaping the new world order, is the Rome Statute at all beneficial for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Over the past few days, Russia began <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32343943.html">hinting</a> that Armenian dairy products do not meet Russian safety regulations, and then <a href="https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-armenia-dairy-products-ban/32344893.html">started banning these</a> products. And just over the weekend, Armenia <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/armenia-won-t-arrest-putin-200100168.html">stated</a> that it would not arrest Putin if he visited Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We assume all these various events are related. What do you think, and how do you think this is going to play out?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-fm-in-moscow-azeri-fm-in-israel">Iran FM in Moscow, Azeri FM in Israel</h2>
<p>This past week Iran foreign minister Hussein Amir-Abdollahian <a href="https://www.iranintl.com/en/202303298397">was in Moscow</a>, meeting with Russian FM Sergey Lavrov. The stated goal of the two countries is to sign a long-term strategic deal. Reportedly they <a href="https://tass.com/politics/1595745">discussed</a> a wide range of topics, from the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal that is constantly <a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/15/russia-iran-nuclear-ukraine-sanctions/">roadblocked</a> for some reason of another, to Syria, to the conflict in Armenia and Artsakh, as well as elevated defense cooperation and more. Incidentally, this meeting comes on the heel of an Iran-Saudi Arabia rapprochement brokered by China.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can we put this visit in the context of a new world order, or multipolarity that is shaping up as the war in Ukraine evolves?</li>
<li>How do the discussions affect Armenia?</li>
<li>Common interest friends.</li>
<li>What is the role of India in the new world order?</li>
<li>Is the Iran-Saudi Arabia thawing is a net positive for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>While Abdollahian was in Moscow, Azeri foreign minister Jeyhun Bayramov <a href="https://caucasuswatch.de/en/news/jeyhun-bayramov-on-official-visit-to-israel.html">was in Israel</a>, inaugurating their new embassy. Among other statements, he thanked Israel for its support against Armenia in the 44-day war and since, while Israeli FM Eli Cohen said the two countries should form a “united front” against Iran. Azerbaijan has not responded to Iranian calls to explain this “agreement”.</p>
<p>We’ve known that Israel’s anti-Armenian stance in the Caucasus has two primary goals: money and Iran. So Azerbaijan is taking advantage of these goals and Israel’s international prominence and clout to solve its problems with force and with impunity; because it is flush with cash, oil and western loans and attention.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this meeting in Tel Aviv break new ground in the Azeri-Israeli relationship?</li>
<li>Beyond opening the embassy, what was achieved by Bayramov’s visit?</li>
<li>The relationship is clearly anti-Iranian and Iran is deeply wary of it. Is Azerbaijan making the Caucasus more dangerous for all countries in the region with its foreign politics in this area?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Garen Megerditchian assaulted by Alen Simonyan.
b. Suren Sargsyan’s new book “Մի կյանքից ավելի”.</li>
<li><strong>Suren</strong> - “<a href="https://newmag.am/book/more-than-a-lifetime">Մի կյանքից ավելի</a>” - meaning “More than A Lifetime” is Suren&rsquo;s new book about his father, Armen Sargsyan&rsquo;s work during the years of independence, and the operation to bring Monte Melkonian to Armenia. It is available on <a href="https://newmag.am">Newmag.am</a>.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/242/thumbnail-242.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/242/thumbnail-242.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12584249-azerbaijan-advances-in-armenia-armenia-at-the-democracy-summit-armenia-and-the-rome-statute-iran-fm-in-moscow-azeri-fm-in-israel-ep-242-apr-2-2023.mp3" length="30027750" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2499</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh | East West Negotiation Platforms | Armenia and the Rome Statute | Ep 241 - Mar 26, 2023
[EP241]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/241-benyamin-poghosyan-azerbaijan-attacks-east-west-negotiation-platforms-icc-rome-statute/</link><pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12529185-azerbaijani-attacks-east-and-west-ratification-of-rome-statute-ep-241-mar-26-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>241</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh | East West Negotiation Platforms | Armenia and the Rome Statute | Ep 241 - Mar 26, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 26, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijani Attacks over the Weekend
* East and West
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
Episode 241 | Recorded: March 26, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijani Attacks over the Weekend
* East and West
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
Episode 241 | Recorded: March 26, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Azerbaijani Attacks over the Weekend
* East and West
* Armenia and the Rome Statute
Episode 241 | Recorded: March 26, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijani-attacks">Azerbaijani Attacks</h2>
<p>Over the weekend, Azerbaijan blatantly <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1107223.html">violated</a> the Nov. 9, 2020 agreement, which it co-signed with Armenia and Russia, by unilaterally advancing its armed forces into the territory of Artsakh.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/241/nkobserver_map.webp" alt="Source: @NKObserver"  title="Approximate Map of Azerbaijani Incursion into Artsakh" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/nkobserver">@NKObserver</a></p>
<p>The Russians <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32334147.html">blamed</a> Azerbaijan for this violation. The aim of this incursion was a dirt road which was allegedly used to bypass the Azeri blockade of Artsakh since Dec.12,  2022.</p>
<p>Additionally, Artsakh has reported that its civilians have been targeted in the regions of Martuni, Taghavard, and Shosh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are these violations and terroristic actions by Azerbaijan a sign that the negotiations with Armenia are not proceeding along Aliyev’s stated tenet, that all Armenia has to do is to agree to all Azeri conditions?</li>
<li>What are the tactical objectives and implications of the Azerbaijani ground gains?</li>
</ul>
<p>The events in Artsakh came after a week of instability created by Azerbaijan. Against the backdrop of continuous shooting at civilians, the violence transferred to Armenia proper. An Armenian soldier was killed in Yeraskh. There was also a peculiar incident reported where an Armenian serviceman was reported to have lost his way, resulting in a search and rescue operation by Armenia as well as Russian border guards. The Russian soldiers apparently <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32331487.html">came under fire</a> from Azerbaijanis, despite having previous consent to search for the missing serviceman. Later, there were reports that two Russians received medical treatment in an Armenian hospital for wounds received during the operation, however, the hospital’s spokesperson was quick to rule gunshots as the injury for which the Russians visited the hospital.The Armenian defense ministry and the Russian defense ministry were silent on the incident.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment of what took place?</li>
<li>What is the reason for Russia’s silence?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="east-and-west">East and West</h2>
<p>Armenia continues to bounce around from platform to platform in its negotiations with Azerbaijan. For most of the latter half of 2022 it was the Brussels platform under the auspices of the EU, whether they met in Brussels, or Prague, or wherever. In December 2022, Armenia “postponed” the trilateral meeting in Moscow, with Lavrov and Bairamov, while inviting 100 EU observers to come to Armenia and observe its borders with Azerbaijan, despite warnings from Russia, Iran, and Azerbaijan.</p>
<h3 id="east">East</h3>
<p>Last Monday Ararat Mirzoyan met with Russian foreign minister Lavrov in Moscow.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What were the reasons for this visit to Moscow, and what was achieved there?</li>
</ul>
<p>Mirzoyan said that Armenia had not rejected the CSTO monitors. Lavrov also said this. Armenia has also said that unless CSTO members state that Azerbaijan is the aggressor in the South Caucasus conflict, there is no room for an agreement to deploy CSTO forces to Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we seeing a managed political backtracking by Armenia, vis-à-vis the CSTO, or just a bunch of face-saving by all sides?</li>
</ul>
<p>Lavrov once again repeated president Putin’s frequent claim that the 44-day war could have been stopped earlier. He was most likely referring to Russia’s attempts to broker a ceasefire on October 5 and October 19 of 2020, which according to Putin and others were rejected by Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why are these assertions important today?</li>
</ul>
<p>One important aspect in Moscow was Lavrov’s mentioning of the autonomy or status cases of Donbas and Kosovo, as possible models for Artsakh.</p>
<p>First, let’s remember that Russia failed the Serbians of Kosovo in the 1990s. NATO air force  actually bombed Serbia, and the EU has been dangling the carrot of membership to both Serbia and Kosovo since then. As for Donbass, that issue is still being adjudicated of course; Russia as a superpower was engaged as a side, and in the end they intervened in Donbass when Ukraine refused even the basic cultural autonomy to the Russians of Donbass.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the carrot that Russia is dangling in front of Armenia?</li>
<li>Are the comparisons between the cases of Artsakh, and Donbas or Kosovo valid?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="west">West</h3>
<p>As far as the western platforms go, they’ve been all talk and no walk so far. Despite a lot of sympathetic political statement from Euro MEP’s, the US Congress, as well as some government officials, and even a “binding” decision by the ICJ telling Azerbaijan to drop the #ArtsakhBlockade and free all movement through the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, there is no activity to ensure any steps towards peace. If anything, the US has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32308629.html">said</a> that no sanctions are being considered against Azerbaijan, and the EU has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32187660.html">said</a> through its multiple diplomats that they can not “save” Armenia from Azeri aggression.</p>
<p>So Azerbaijan is basically doing whatever it wants, by reneging on its trilateral commitment, tightening the blockade, murdering Armenian civilians, and continuing on its belligerent path. As a result, Pashinyan has confessed that he’s negotiating with a dishonest partner, for a “peace treaty”that <a href="https://168.am/2023/03/14/1845959.html">would guarantee neither peace</a>, nor even non-aggression!</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is a “peace” treaty that can not guarantee peace?</li>
</ul>
<p>As Pashinyan bounces between east and west, western NGOs and the US State Department have issued multiple negative reports on Armenia; for slipping in the democracy index; human trafficking, media freedom; transparency; etc.</p>
<p>The west has been floating the Pashinyan government since it came to power. Armenia’s national debt has increased more than 50% since 2018, so it’s clear that the expectations of Pashinyan are that he will sign what Azerbaijan wants, and create an opportunity for The West to evict Russia from the South Caucasus. Perhaps also there are expectations that Armenia will sign the Rome Statute, and we’ll talk about this in a minute, and other western championed legislatures that would, frankly, corner Armenia into very difficult choices at this moment in global challenges.</p>
<p>So the warnings from The West have become pretty strident, that going back to Moscow is not part of the plan for Pashinyan. He <a href="https://twitter.com/NikolPashinyan/status/1638885920907616256">tweeted</a> before the weekend that:</p>
<pre><code>_There will be a [#peace](https://twitter.com/hashtag/peace) treaty between [#Armenia](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Armenia) and [#Azerbaijan](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Azerbaijan), and it will be based on the joint official statements adopted at the highest level. There won’t be а new escalation! The international community must strongly support this narrative._
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the source of Pashinyan’s confidence?</li>
<li>Benyamin, what’s your narrative on Pashinyan bouncing around from platform to platform? What is working and what is not working for him?</li>
<li>Is The West hinting that they could cut off the support that has kept Pashinyan in power since 2018?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-may-ratify-the-rome-statute">Armenia May Ratify the Rome Statute</h3>
<p>Within the global conflict for power, the Armenian government has a new dilemma on its hands. In December of 2022, Pashinyan&rsquo;s government made a decision to ratify the &ldquo;Rome Statute&rdquo; which is the treaty that established the International Criminal Court. Just before last weekend, the Armenian constitutional court <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32333231.html">greenlit</a> for the government to ratify The International Criminal Court Treaty. Full ratification would mean that ICC members are required to implement decisions of the court.</p>
<p>In the meantime, only two weeks ago, the ICC issued an international warrant on Russian president Putin, as a war criminal. Just today, Monday, RIA Novosti cited <a href="https://ria.ru/20230327/mus-1861034042.html">an unnamed source</a> in the Russian MFA saying that it is “absolutely unacceptable” for Armenia to ratify the Rome Statute in the backdrop of the ICC arrest warrant against Putin. The source further said that Yerevan was warned about “extremely negative” consequences for the bilateral relationship if Armenia were to proceed.</p>
<p>Despite the ICC being a legal institution, it seems there’s a big political side to all of this so we wanted to get your opinion as a political scientist.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What would this mean for Armenia’s relationship with Russia? Most analysts welcomed Armenia’s decision to ratify the Rome Statute in December. But would this be the right time to start the ratification process? It seems that such a ratification at present would corner Armenia into taking sides in a global storm much above its level.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>240</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan Press Conference | Belligerent Azerbaijan | Mirzoyan in Moscow | Yerevan Mayor | Ep 240 - Mar 19, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 03/19/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Pashinyan’s Press Conference
* Negotiating with Belligerent Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Mayoral Politics in Yerevan
Episode 240 | Recorded: March 20, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Pashinyan’s Press Conference
* Negotiating with Belligerent Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Mayoral Politics in Yerevan
Episode 240 | Recorded: March 20, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Pashinyan’s Press Conference
* Negotiating with Belligerent Azerbaijan
* Mirzoyan in Moscow
* Mayoral Politics in Yerevan
Episode 240 | Recorded: March 20, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="pashinyans-press-conference">Pashinyan’s Press Conference</h2>
<p>On Tuesday, Pashinyan held a 4.5 hour press-conference. He covered a range of topics from the 44 day war, to the potential so-called “peace treaty”, to Armenia’s relations with Russia, and more.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the main message he was trying to convey?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="on-artsakh">On Artsakh</h3>
<p>Regarding Pashinyan’s comments about Artsakh, he responded to a joint call by Artsakh’s parliamentary parties for Armenia to honor its own laws and not take illegal decisions to predetermine Artsakh’s fate. He said that Artsakh’s “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1106248.html">Rights &amp; Security</a>” are “key goal” for his administration, but he declined to endorse the right for Artsakh to self-determination. In fact he said that through 30 years of negotiations, the so-called “international community” has always <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32317247.html">regarded</a> Nagorno Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Again, Pashinyan shirked responsibility for Artsakh’s “rights and security” upon the Russians, and said that it’s up to Artsakh to negotiate on its own behalf with Baku. Thus he washed his hands of it.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Tevan, we understand that Pashinyan is done with Artsakh. Has he also predetermined its fate?
<ul>
<li>Maria Zakharova <a href="https://mediamax.am/en/news/foreignpolicy/50654/">response:</a> they leave it “on the conscience of the Armenian leadership, its attempts to make third countries responsible for the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh.”</li>
<li>On the status of Artsakh, what are the Russians saying? For instance, is Zakharova saying that if you want Artsakh, then you have to fight for it?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is there a path for Artsakh to stand up for its own self-determination on the international scene, without Armenia?</li>
<li>What’s your view of the current Artsakh authorities, and also the processes to amend their constitution, to allow for a parliamentary selection of a president in case of the incapacitation of their president during a time of martial law?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="on-decline-of-democracy-and-corruption-in-armenia">On Decline of Democracy and Corruption in Armenia</h3>
<p>Speaking on democracy and corruption, Armenia has been on the receiving end of slight international criticism in various reports about human rights and democracy, including corruption. Pashinyan, as if it&rsquo;s magic, <a href="https://www.oragark.com/pashinyan-again-claims-no-systemic-corruption-in-armenia/">seemed to wave away criticism</a> of corruption and repeated the claim that there is no systemic corruption in Armenia.</p>
<p>Interestingly, on the same day as the press-conference, Aravot was to release an expose of corruption within the Civil Contract party of Armenia. They posted the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR5jzHFWJ8">trailer</a> to their documentary and their Youtube page was immediately hacked.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are the suspicions raised by the editorial staff of Aravot that the hacking of their web page seems to be politically motivated justified?</li>
<li>Are Western institutions treating the Pashinyan regime with kid gloves when it comes to corruption, democracy, transparency, and other measures of western democracy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="on-negotiations-with-azerbaijan">On Negotiations with Azerbaijan</h3>
<p>As far as negotiations with Azerbaijan go, Pashinyan repeated several times that the current times of war are very turbulent. He talked about the difficulties in <a href="https://168.am/2023/03/14/1845987.html">negotiating</a> with Azerbaijan and its <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1106288.html">dishonest</a> approach, and warned of the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1106288.html">alarming likelihood</a> of Azerbaijani attacks on Artsakh and Armenia.</p>
<p>Curiously, he put himself in a very illogical spot: He said he’s negotiating with a dishonest partner, and also said that a “peace treaty” <a href="https://168.am/2023/03/14/1845959.html">would not guarantee peace</a>, or even non-aggression!</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why would Pashinyan continue calling this a “peace” treaty, or his agenda an “agenda of peace”, if he, himself, is telling us that none of his work’s outcome can guarantee peace, or even non-aggression?</li>
<li>Why would he sign an agreement that would not achieve peace, let alone sell this to Armenians as a “peace treaty”?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="on-relations-with-russia-and-the-csto">On Relations with Russia and the CSTO</h3>
<p>Coming to relations with Russia, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1106260.html">Pashinyan’s line</a> was that, and his writers must have had a lot of fun with this: “Armenia is not leaving the CSTO, the CSTO is leaving Armenia”. Russian MFA spox Maria Zakharova <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32323240.html">laughed</a> it off. Also, earlier in the week, Pashinyan called Putin to express concern about Azerbaijan’s aggressive movements.</p>
<p>Our take here is that after very seriously damaging its relations with Russia, Pashinyan &amp; team are finding that their expectations are not being met by The West, the EU and the US, from the perspective of holding Azerbaijan accountable for weaseling out of just about every point of all agreements they’ve co-signed since 2020.</p>
<p>Azerbaijan has not returned Armenian POWs, they have not stayed on the Nov. 2020 line of contact, they’ve invaded Armenia proper, they murder Armenian civilians, today is the 99th day of the Artsakh Blockade, which was bindingly ruled by the Hague to be illegal and must be removed, and yet there’s almost no effort to make Azerbaijan do anything except demand more. If anything, the US has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32308629.html">said</a> that no sanctions are being considered against Azerbaijan, and the EU has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32187660.html">said</a> through its multiple diplomats that they can not “save” Armenia from Azeri aggression.</p>
<p>So we’re deducing that Pashinyan is now trying to mend its relations with Moscow because otherwise, if and when Azerbaijan attacks, in the absence of any real investment and rearming of the Armenian armed forces, there is no alternative to the Russians.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Mirzoyan headed for Moscow, and what do you think he’ll be discussing?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="belligerent-azerbaijan-is-a-new-war-around-the-corner">Belligerent Azerbaijan: Is A New War Around the Corner?</h2>
<p>While Pashinyan was busy selling his “agenda of peace” to Armenians, Aliyev was busy clarifying his further designs.</p>
<p>Aliyev <a href="https://president.az/en/articles/view/59195">continued</a> with explicit claims on what he calls “West Zangezur”, which is basically Syunik and parts of Gegharkunik.</p>
<p>He ruled out any “international format” in negotiations with authorities of Artsakh, and invited them to Baku to discuss “integrations into Azerbaijan”.</p>
<p>Aliyev also <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/750402.html">said</a> that “for Armenia to live peacefully on the territory of [its] 29,000 square kilometers, there is one condition: they need to accept our conditions, officially recognize Karabakh as the territory of Azerbaijan, carry out delimitation work based on our conditions.&quot;</p>
<p>This seems to be a direct response to Pashinyan’s question <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/720226.html">posed</a> on September 14, 2022, where Pashinyan said that he wants to sign any agreement which would ensure that Armenians could live in peace on 29,800 sq. km.</p>
<ul>
<li>If you remember, this was the speech which triggered the huge protest on the evening of Sep 14.</li>
</ul>
<p>Taguhi Tovmasyan, the head of the Armenian parliament’s Human rights committee, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHosQ67eWw0">warns</a> of a build-up of Azerbaijani troops as reported to her by citizens and her contacts, all across the border with Artsakh, Gegharkunik and Tavush.</p>
<p>And lastly, just today, Azerbaijani press carried <a href="https://t.co/88G2mEkPxf">reports</a> of a shootout near the border with Nerqin Hand (which is surrounded on three sides) and haqqin.az, one of the main propaganda channels, ran a ridiculous <a href="https://haqqin.az/news/278097">editorial</a> saying that Armenia is starting a new war. The Armenian side <a href="https://mil.am/hy/news/11372">denied </a>the allegations of a shootout.</p>
<p>When it comes to war, we can’t take anything lightly or for granted. And of course, for Azerbaijani press, it would be surprising not to see an unfounded accusation from government sources and instances of disinformation, or manipulations on a daily level. But this recent level of propaganda seems out of control, even when compared with its past levels of ridiculous falsehoods.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is a lot of this rhetoric for domestic consumption?</li>
<li>How imminent is a new war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mirzoyan-in-moscow">Mirzoyan in Moscow</h2>
<p>And today Ararat Mirzoyan made an <a href="https://www.armenpress.am/eng/news/1106749/">official visit</a> to Moscow to meet his counterpart Sergey Lavrov. If this was not an ad-hoc meeting, then it seems to have been kept under wraps since it was only announced last week. If we remember, the last time Mirzoyan was scheduled to visit Moscow was December 22, for a trilateral meeting that included Azerbaijan, which Mirzoyan boycotted.</p>
<p>Overall, despite specific points, Lavrov’s tone and speech did not indicate any tensions during the discussions, which Lavrov said were comprehensive. The two foreign ministers even signed a package of deals.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was the purpose of the meetings today?</li>
<li>How do you assess Lavov drawing the examples of Russians of Donbass and the Serbians of Kosovo as examples of the types of autonomy that Karabakh Armenians could enjoy?
<ul>
<li>In the end, he still says the issue of security guarantees needs to be negotiated between Stepanakert and Baku, but we see Baku insisting that Artsakh is an internal matter of Azerbaijan now.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mayoral-politics-in-yerevan">Mayoral Politics in Yerevan</h2>
<p>As it was widely expected, and predicted openly in the media in the weeks prior, Hrachya Sargsyan, the Civil Contract mayor of Yerevan since December 2021, resigned. He said he will continue to support the Civil Contract party.</p>
<p>Since Hayk Marutyan’s ouster, it has been public knowledge that Pashinyan wants to install Tigran Avinyan as the mayor of Yerevan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your view of these shuffles in Yerevan’s city hall?</li>
<li>How do you assess Hrachya Sargsyan’s tenure as mayor for 15 months?</li>
<li>How important are Yerevan elections on the national scene?</li>
<li>Who are the political forces vying for power?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - A tale of two NATOs visits:</li>
<li><strong>Tevan</strong> - Stand with Artsakh, they’re fighting for all Armenians not just themselves</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 19, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 239, Mar 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Gas, Power, Food, Weather
* Daily Ceasefire Violations
* Shooting at Civilians
* Heightened Threat of War
* Process of Constitutional Amendment
* Is Arayik Harutyunyan Planning to Resign?
* Will the Amendment Go Through?
* Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* Invitation to Negtiate “Integration” in Baku
* Artsakh Demands that Armenia Respect its own Laws
* Artsakh Demands an International Platform for Negotiations
Episode 239 | Recorded: March 19, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 239, Mar 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Gas, Power, Food, Weather
* Daily Ceasefire Violations
* Shooting at Civilians
* Heightened Threat of War
* Process of Constitutional Amendment
* Is Arayik Harutyunyan Planning to Resign?
* Will the Amendment Go Through?
* Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* Invitation to Negtiate “Integration” in Baku
* Artsakh Demands that Armenia Respect its own Laws
* Artsakh Demands an International Platform for Negotiations
Episode 239 | Recorded: March 19, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 239, Mar 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Current Living Conditions
* Gas, Power, Food, Weather
* Daily Ceasefire Violations
* Shooting at Civilians
* Heightened Threat of War
* Process of Constitutional Amendment
* Is Arayik Harutyunyan Planning to Resign?
* Will the Amendment Go Through?
* Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* Invitation to Negtiate “Integration” in Baku
* Artsakh Demands that Armenia Respect its own Laws
* Artsakh Demands an International Platform for Negotiations
Episode 239 | Recorded: March 19, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/239/thumbnail-239.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/239/thumbnail-239.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12472618-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-19-2023.mp3" length="8379844" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>694</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Johnny Melikian on the Georgia Law on Foreign Agents, Protests and Aftermath| Ep 238 - March 15, 2023
[EP238]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/238-johnny-melikian-georgia-foreign-agent-law-protests-in-tbilisi-government-backdown/</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12452439-johnny-melikian-georgia-foreign-agent-law-protests-and-aftermath-ep-238-mar-15-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>238</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Johnny Melikian on the Georgia Law on Foreign Agents, Protests and Aftermath| Ep 238 - March 15, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - March 15, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Johnny G. Melikian](/guest/jmelikian)
#### Topics:
* On March 7, the Georgian parliament voted into law a bill that would require political actors to clarify their foreign funding sources and their activities to lobby lawmakers with such funding. This ignited large protests in Tbilisi, and on March 9 the parliament agreed to rescind the law and to release arrested opposition members. We analyze the events and the outcome.
Episode 238 | Recorded: March 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Johnny G. Melikian](/guest/jmelikian)
#### Topics:
* On March 7, the Georgian parliament voted into law a bill that would require political actors to clarify their foreign funding sources and their activities to lobby lawmakers with such funding. This ignited large protests in Tbilisi, and on March 9 the parliament agreed to rescind the law and to release arrested opposition members. We analyze the events and the outcome.
Episode 238 | Recorded: March 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Johnny G. Melikian](/guest/jmelikian)
#### Topics:
* On March 7, the Georgian parliament voted into law a bill that would require political actors to clarify their foreign funding sources and their activities to lobby lawmakers with such funding. This ignited large protests in Tbilisi, and on March 9 the parliament agreed to rescind the law and to release arrested opposition members. We analyze the events and the outcome.
Episode 238 | Recorded: March 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="georgia-law-on-foreign-agents">Georgia Law on Foreign Agents</h2>
<p>On March 7, the Georgian parliament <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-parliament-revoke-foreign-agents-bill/32311614.html">voted</a> into law one of a couple of drafts of a bill that had been circulated for the last few months. One of the bills was a near-exact translation of the US law on “Foreign Agents Registration Act”, known as FARA.</p>
<p>This law would require political actors to clarify their foreign funding sources and their activities to lobby lawmakers with such funding.</p>
<p>The bill narrowly passed with 76 out of 150 votes, and it ignited large protests in Tbilisi, and on March 9 the parliament agreed to rescind the law and to release arrested opposition members.</p>
<p>Protesters carried banners that this was a “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCBIjnZgwQc">Russian inspired law</a>”, online media carried pictures of Zelensky and the flag of Ukraine. Georgia’s Prime Minister, Irakli Gharibashvili claimed that the protests were an instigation by the EU and Ukraine, possibly attempting to open a 2nd front in the Ukraine war.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the nuances of the bill that was passed, and why were the two sides so polarized about it?</li>
<li>Some have chided the opponents of the bill, by saying that if such a law is acceptable to the US, or in the west, then why isn’t it also a good idea for Georgia? Opponents have said that Georgia already has laws on transparency and does not need this law. Do existing laws adequately cover what this law would do?</li>
</ul>
<p>The main backer of the bill was the ruling Georgian Dream party, although it was initiated by a party that splintered from it, called People’s Power. The main opponents of the bill were the pro-western opposition, who were heavily supported by Western NGOs, many of whom would be targets of the law. In addition, many EU and Western officials spoke out about this. Notably, President of the European Council Charles Michel <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel/status/1633440525419266051">said</a> that the “<em>Adoption of this “foreign influence” law is not compatible with the EU path which the majority in Georgia wants.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain how such a law would impede Georgia’s goal of joining the EU one day? Or is this a covert threat to Georgia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Earlier this week we asked Hrant Mikaelian if this backdown was a victory for the Georgian opposition. He said he didn’t think it was, but it was a defeat for the ruling party.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who won and who lost in this showdown?</li>
<li>Is there a Saakashvili factor in this issue? What do you mean?</li>
<li>Is there any credence to concerns that Georgia is being set up for another color revolution?</li>
</ul>
<p>An <a href="https://eurasianet.org/perspectives-elections-are-not-enough-georgia-needs-a-new-model-of-democracy">op-ed</a> in Eurasianet (another foreign entity that would be target of the law) said that: “It is time for Georgia’s democratic supporters, including democracy building institutions and foundations abroad, to rethink the failed standard of election-centered majoritarian models.”</p>
<h2 id="treatment-of-protests-in-western-media">Treatment of Protests in Western Media</h2>
<p>The tactics used by the opposition in Georgia raised eyebrows. On live TV we saw protesters throw molotov cocktails at the police, we saw them breaking public benches in order to make improvised barricades, and flipping over cars Yet, all we heard from Western politicians were calls to the Georgian government to ensure the right of protesters to protest peacefully.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there were even more peaceful protests in Moldova from the opposition that were criticized by the west, which supports the ruling government there. Of course we remember the resistance movement protests in Armenia last summer where some western representatives even criticized the Armenian opposition for being too violent, despite the protests being largely peaceful compared to Georgia.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did the opposition in Georgia succeed in making the government back down, while the opposition in Armenia didn’t?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Finally:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is this issue closed and finished, or will it rear its head in the future?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/238/thumbnail-238.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/238/thumbnail-238.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12452439-johnny-melikian-georgia-foreign-agent-law-protests-and-aftermath-ep-238-mar-15-2023.mp3" length="31718503" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2640</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations | Georgia Opposition | MPG Poll | Ep 237
[EP237]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/237-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-georgia-opposition-mpg-poll/</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12434786-armenia-azerbaijan-negs-georgia-opposition-mpg-poll-ep-237-march-12-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>237</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations | Georgia Opposition | MPG Poll | Ep 237</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Developments in Artsakh
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security”?
* Armenia Downgrades CSTO Relations
* Georgian Law on Foreign Agents
* Reflections on MPG Poll “AmotiSar” Results
Episode 237 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Developments in Artsakh
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security”?
* Armenia Downgrades CSTO Relations
* Georgian Law on Foreign Agents
* Reflections on MPG Poll “AmotiSar” Results
Episode 237 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* Developments in Artsakh
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security”?
* Armenia Downgrades CSTO Relations
* Georgian Law on Foreign Agents
* Reflections on MPG Poll “AmotiSar” Results
Episode 237 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-continue">Armenia Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue</h2>
<h3 id="developments-in-artsakh">Developments in Artsakh</h3>
<p>In Artsakh, the Azeri blockade continues, today was Day 92. We talk to Gev Iskajyan in Stepanakert every few days. We talked to him yesterday, to get a take on how things are on the ground over there.</p>
<p>As we know, on March 5 Azerbaijan attacked an Artsakh police car, in an unprovoked terroristic act. This was probably because Azerbaijan didn’t like what they heard from the Artsakh government, when they mischaracterized the meeting of the representatives of the two sides as being about “integrating Artsakh into Azerbaijan”.</p>
<p>Arayik Haruyunyan flatly denied that his reps discussed any integration topics, and said that Artsakh remains on its quest for internationally recognized independence. However, Harutyunyan also said that those who disagree with his government can try to change the policy within the legal framework provided by laws of Artsakh.</p>
<p>Many interpret Arayik’s statement to be directed at Samvel Babayan, who recently appeared in Artsakh and went on Artsakh public television to preach cooperation with Azerbaijan by supporting its goal of removing Russians from the region. Some in the opposition in Armenia and Artsakh criticize Harutyunyan’s statement for even allowing for a theoretical possibility that there could be forces in Artsakh who would favor integration with Azerbaijan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was Harutyunyan’s mention that those political forces who think otherwise, should self-organize, win elections and come take the government and change policy, - an “overton window”?</li>
</ul>
<p>On Friday, Hraparak <a href="https://hraparak.am/post/0d00cf2feac75a9c59bd1c1534e3b0b9">reported</a> that Arayik Harutyunyan met with Pashinyan, who continued to press him to concede to integrating into Azerbaijan. Haruyunyan returned to Stepanakert, and has indicated to close circles that he continues to want to resign.</p>
<p>At the same time, an Artsakh parliament committee approved Harutyunyan’s proposal on constitutional changes, enabling parliament to select a president during times of martial law, to replace a vacant presidency.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why does Arayik want to resign? Initially the rumors were that he was being squeezed out by his state minister, Rouben Vardanyan. But if so, why would this situation continue since the sacking of Vardanyan three weeks ago?</li>
</ul>
<p>Still why does Arayik want to resign still?</p>
<p>Follow-ups:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hikmet Hajiyev invited Artsakh authorities to go to Baku to negotiate on “re-integration”</li>
<li>Unconfirmed news about the accumulation of Azerbaijani forces on the border with Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="no-peace-without-artsakh-security">No “Peace” without “Artsakh Security”</h3>
<p>Following the Azeri shootings of three Artsakh policemen and wounding of another on March 5, this week security council chair Armen Grigoryan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32312385.html">stated</a> that Armenia’s understanding is that a peace agreement can not be signed “without progress on the Nagorno Karabakh issue”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who is Grigoryan’s intended audience? Is this statement intended for the domestic audience, or Azerbaijan, or The West?</li>
<li>What does “some progress” mean? Does Grigoryan’s statement indicate a shift in Armenia’s negotiation strategy, or tactics? Or is this just posturing?</li>
</ul>
<p>In response to today’s and previous Armenian statements about so-called “internationally visible” mechanisms for ensuring security, Hikmet Hajiyev, Ilham Aliyev’s assistant, <a href="https://report.az/ru/vneshnyaya-politika/hikmet-gadzhiev-armeniya-ne-hochet-zaklyucheniya-mirnogo-dogovora-i-pytaetsya-vyigrat-vremya/">responded</a>: “Azerbaijan will not discuss issues related to its sovereignty with any third parties, including the Republic of Hayastan.”</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>So what now?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenia-downgrades-relations-with-csto">Armenia Downgrades Relations with CSTO</h3>
<p>We’ve talked a lot on this show about Armenia’s relationships with Russia and the CSTO tanking. The latest on this downward spiral was on Friday, when Armenia further downgraded its relations with the CSTO by <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32312076.html">declining</a> to assign one of the three deputy secretary-general positions.</p>
<p>The move was criticized by Tigran Abrahamyan, an opposition MP who is also on the parliamentary standing committee on defense and security.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the significance of this move?</li>
<li>Is there a bottom in sight, for these degraded relationships with Russia and the CSTO?</li>
</ul>
<p>If Armenia were to effectively drop out of the CSTO, even if it officially remains in the alliance, the biggest concern is that there is no alternative security framework which it can rely on for its safety. The West operates in the South Caucasus through the arm of Turkey, which is an enemy. The same enemy that gave Pashinyan’s a kick in the butt in 2020, and to whom he can not refuse any concession.</p>
<p>The CSTO has not been a great deal, but it is part of the global patchwork of security alliances that keeps a multipolar balance around the South Caucasus.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What alternative is this ruling party betting Armenia’s future on?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="georgia-law-on-foreign-agents">Georgia Law on Foreign Agents</h2>
<p>On March 7, the Georgian parliament <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-parliament-revoke-foreign-agents-bill/32311614.html">voted</a> into law one of a couple of drafts of a bill that had been circulated for the last few months. This bill was a near-exact translation of the US law on “Foreign Agents Registration Act”, known as FARA. The law would require political actors to clarify their foreign funding sources and their activities to lobby lawmakers with such funding.</p>
<p>The bill passed with 76 out of 150 votes, and it ignited large protests in Tiflis, and on March 9 the parliament agreed to rescind the law and to release arrested opposition members. The main backer of the bill was the ruling Georgian Dream party, although it was initiated by a splinter party called People’s Power. The main opponents of the bill: See the picture on <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-foreign-agents-law-government-climbdown-explainer/32310813.html">this</a> article. If we want to be more politically correct: the pro-western opposition.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was this backdown a victory for the Georgian opposition?</li>
<li>What were the reasons behind the vehement opposition to this bill by the west? The bill is a near-replica of a US law, the FARA. Why is it good for the US, and not good for Georgia?</li>
</ul>
<p>The opposition protesters were heavily supported by Western NGOs, many of whom would be targets of the law. In addition, many EU and Western officials expressed an opinion on the proposed law.</p>
<p>The tactics used by the opposition in Georgia also raised eyebrows. On live TV we saw protesters throw molotov cocktails at the police, we saw them breaking public benches in order to make improvised barricades, and flipping over cars Yet, all we heard from Western politicians were calls to the Georgian government to ensure the right of protesters to protest peacefully.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there were also more peaceful protests in Moldova from the opposition that were criticized by the west, which supports the ruling government there. Of course we remember the resistance movement protests in Armenia last summer where some western representatives even criticized the Armenian opposition for being too violent, despite the protests being nowhere near as violent as in Georgia.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why did the opposition in Georgia succeed in making the government back down, while the opposition in Armenia didn’t?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="mpggallup-international-poll">MPG/Gallup International Poll</h2>
<h3 id="perception-of-change-in-corruption-since-2018">Perception of change in corruption since 2018</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/237/1_Corruption.png" alt="Corruption"  title="Perception of change in corruption since 2018" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="perceptions-on-aid-to-syria-and-turkey">Perceptions on aid to Syria and Turkey</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/237/2_Aid_Syria_Turkey.png" alt="Aid To Syria and Turkey"  title="Perceptions on aid to Syria and Turkey" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="low-level-of-support-in-institutions-and-media-and-the-police">Low level of support in institutions and media and the police</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/237/3_Institutions.png" alt="Institutions"  title="support in institutions and media and the police" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="trust-in-pashinyan-about-the-fire-in-military-barracks-70-no-trust">Trust in Pashinyan about the Fire in Military Barracks (&gt;70% no trust)</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/237/4_Fire_Barracks.png" alt="Fire in the Barracks"  title="Trust in Pashinyan about the Fire in Military Barracks" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h3 id="change-in-perception-about-exploiting-amulsar">Change in perception about exploiting Amulsar</h3>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/237/5_Amulsar.png" alt="Change in Amulsar perceptions"  title="Change in perception about exploiting Amulsar" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you everyone!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/237/thumbnail-237.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/237/thumbnail-237.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12434786-armenia-azerbaijan-negs-georgia-opposition-mpg-poll-ep-237-march-12-2023.mp3" length="44850273" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3734</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 236, Mar 12, 2023
[EP236]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/236-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230312/</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12426343-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-12-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>236</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 236, Mar 12, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 236, Mar 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas cutoff again.
* Aftermath of Azerbaijan Killing 3 Artsakh Policemen
* Potential for New Aggression
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security for Artsakh”?
Episode 236 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 236, Mar 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas cutoff again.
* Aftermath of Azerbaijan Killing 3 Artsakh Policemen
* Potential for New Aggression
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security for Artsakh”?
Episode 236 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 236, Mar 12, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas cutoff again.
* Aftermath of Azerbaijan Killing 3 Artsakh Policemen
* Potential for New Aggression
* No “Peace” without “Rights and Security for Artsakh”?
Episode 236 | Recorded: March 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="gas--electricity">Gas &amp; Electricity</h2>
<p>Gas was cut off yesterday again.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the state of shops and businesses?</li>
<li>Is the food situation stable?</li>
<li>What is the current regime of electricity brownouts?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="political-developments">Political Developments</h2>
<p>On our last call we discussed that Artsakh reps met with Azerbaijani government officials to discuss logistics and infrastructure, but Azerbaijan misrepresented those discussions as being about “integration of Karabakh Armenians into Azerbaijan”. That was flatly denied and rejected by both Arayik Harutyunyan, as well as the Armenian government in Yerevan.</p>
<p>Both Arayik Harutyunyan and Pashinyan also warned of Azerbaijan preparing for further aggression and violence. This week we had the terrible shootings of three Artsakh policemen and the wounding of another by Azeri forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe the atmosphere in Stepanakert and Artsakh in general following this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Yesterday Armenia’s national security chair Armen Grigoryan said that Armenia won’t sign a peace treaty without rights and security for Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does this mean for Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP235]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/235-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230306/</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12387696-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-6-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>235</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 235, Mar 6, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 6, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 235, Mar 6, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 6, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attack Kills 3 Artsakh Citizens
* Arayik Harutyunyan rejects Azeri ultimatum, Warns of Further Aggression
* How are people responding?
* About the international response
* Russian peacekeeper report and response
* On the trilateral agreement of Nov. 2020
Episode 235 | Recorded: March 6, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 235, Mar 6, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 6, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attack Kills 3 Artsakh Citizens
* Arayik Harutyunyan rejects Azeri ultimatum, Warns of Further Aggression
* How are people responding?
* About the international response
* Russian peacekeeper report and response
* On the trilateral agreement of Nov. 2020
Episode 235 | Recorded: March 6, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 235, Mar 6, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - March 6, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attack Kills 3 Artsakh Citizens
* Arayik Harutyunyan rejects Azeri ultimatum, Warns of Further Aggression
* How are people responding?
* About the international response
* Russian peacekeeper report and response
* On the trilateral agreement of Nov. 2020
Episode 235 | Recorded: March 6, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/235/thumbnail-235.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/235/thumbnail-235.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12387696-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-6-2023.mp3" length="9079064" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>752</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Turkish Politics After the Earthquake | Artsakh Blockade Developments | Armenian Diplomacy | Egyptian President’s Visit to Armenia | Ep 234 - Mar 5, 2023
[EP234]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/234-turkey-politics-after-earthquake-earthquake-artsakh-blockade-developments-armenia-diplomacy-egypt-president-visit-armenia/</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12382253-turkish-politics-after-earthquake-artsakh-blockade-developments-armenian-diplomacy-egyptian-president-in-armenia-ep-234-mar-5-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>234</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Turkish Politics After the Earthquake | Artsakh Blockade Developments | Armenian Diplomacy | Egyptian President’s Visit to Armenia | Ep 234 - Mar 5, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 5, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Turkish Politics after the Earthquake
* Artsakh Blockade and Developments
* Armenian Diplomatic Developments
* Egyptian President’s Visit to Armenia
Episode 234 | Recorded: March 5, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Turkish Politics after the Earthquake
* Artsakh Blockade and Developments
* Armenian Diplomatic Developments
* Egyptian President’s Visit to Armenia
Episode 234 | Recorded: March 5, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topics:
* Turkish Politics after the Earthquake
* Artsakh Blockade and Developments
* Armenian Diplomatic Developments
* Egyptian President’s Visit to Armenia
Episode 234 | Recorded: March 5, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="turkish-politics-after-the-earthquake">Turkish Politics after the Earthquake</h2>
<p>We’ve talked a lot about the earthquake in Turkey and Syria that happened a month ago. Over 50,000 people were killed in those two countries, among them Armenians.</p>
<p>This coming May, Turkish presidential elections are due to be held, and president Erdogan is of course up for reelection. We want to explore how the earthquake has shifted the political maneuvering in Turkey.</p>
<p>For a while after the earthquake it wasn’t clear if the presidential elections were going to be held as planned on May 14. While the announced reasons were logistical, about martial law, etc., the real reasons concerned Erdogan’s political considerations for a successful re-election. As of now, the elections are back on.</p>
<p>The anti-Erdogan opposition “Table of Six” has <a href="https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20230303-slpit-in-turkey-s-opposition-alliance-over-candidate-is-gift-on-a-platter-for-erdogan">bifurcated</a>. Out of the six opposition parties, five have agreed to <a href="https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/03/turkeys-opposition-close-naming-kilicdaroglu-challenge-erdogan">nominate</a> the more secular Kemal Kiliçdaroglu, while the nationalist IYI party has pulled out of the alliance; they want to nominate either the mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, or Ankara mayor Mansur Yavas. Imamoglu has been pushed out of politics by Erdogan who has filed criminal charges against him.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does the Turkish election calculus look like right now?</li>
<li>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Party">IYI</a> is a party that came together from a split of prominent people from the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), being joined by splitters from the Republican Party (CHP) and they’re led by Meral Akşener. Why do they reject Kiliçdaroglu? How important are they, and could they significantly alter the trajectory and agenda of the anti-Erdogan camp?</li>
<li>Is Turkey’s policy towards Armenia likely to be subject to any change, regardless of who gets elected? Can you recall any specific statements or policy positions from the Turkish opposition regarding Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>As we’ve noted before, Armenia also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103623.html">dispatched</a> rescuers to both <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103641.html">Syria</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103700.html">Turkey</a>, and the border with Turkey was <a href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkiye/turkiye-armenia-border-reopens-after-30-year-hiatus-to-aid-quake-zone/2815736">opened</a> twice to let through convoys of trucks carrying Armenian aid to the distressed areas. That was a first, since Armenia gained independence after the fall of the Soviet Union.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does Armenia’s aid effort and Turkey’s so-called “earthquake diplomacy” make any difference in their foreign affairs agenda? Does this earthquake shift Turkey’s attention from regional, Pan-Turkic, expansive policies for a time being?</li>
<li>Will the economics of the earthquake cause Turkey to take pause from encouraging Azerbaijan from maximalist positions, for example in pushing for a so-called “Zangezur corridor”, or assimilating Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-blockade-and-developments">Artsakh Blockade and Developments</h2>
<h3 id="armenian-azerbaijani-reps-meet">Armenian Azerbaijani Reps Meet</h3>
<p>Since Ruben Vardanyan’s dismissal, both the Artsakh and Azerbaijani sides have appointed representatives and have held two discussions, in the presence of the Russian peacekeepers. While Azerbaijan has tried to paint these discussions as being about “reintegrating Karabakh back into Azerbaijan”, the Artsakh government has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105355.html">rejected</a> this and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105493.html">gave a detailed report of the meeting</a>. They’ve also said that these talks are not a substitute for peace negotiations, which must take place in an internationally visible process.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Given that there’s a disconnect on the Azeri side of why and what they’re discussing with Artsakh, can we expect much from these discussions, or are they happening to placate the international community, which has been calling for an end to the blockade?</li>
</ul>
<p>Since that meeting earlier in the week, there have been <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105571.html">daily reports</a> (6 days in a row) about Azeri violations of ceasefire, with both civilian and military being targeted. Today, a subversion group from Azerbaijan infiltrated Armenian-held territories, in contravention of the cease-fire, and attacked an Artsakh police car, killing three and injuring one police officer.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this mean Azerbaijan doesn’t like how the negotiations are going?</li>
<li>Are they threatening that if Artsakh does not negotiate the issues that they’re asking for, then Azerbaijan will begin even larger hostilities?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-diplomatic-developments">Armenian Diplomatic Developments</h2>
<h3 id="pashinyan-in-berlin-scholz-retraction">Pashinyan in Berlin, Scholz Retraction</h3>
<p>This past week Pashinyan visited Germany and met with members of the Bundestag and chancellor Olaf Scholz. In the ensuing press conference Scholtz indicated that <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32296669.html">Germany backs Artsakh’s right to self-determination</a>, which he said was an international principle equal to that of territorial integrity.</p>
<p>That, together with the ICJ partially <a href="https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/2023-02/180-20230222-SUM-01-00-EN.pdf">ruling </a>in favor of Armenia on its request to take all measures in its disposal to unblock the Lachin/Berdzor corridor, and UN Secretary Antonio General Guterrez and the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1104920.html">EU</a> both <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32290038.html">calling</a> the ICJ ruling “binding”, we thought maybe there’s an interesting story developing.</p>
<p>But Azerbaijan has yet to lift the blockade, and worse yet, the day after the press conference, Scholz’s mention of self-determination was silently edited out of the official text of the <a href="https://www.bundeskanzler.de/bk-de/aktuelles/scholz-empfaengt-pashinyan-2169058">speech</a> on the German government’s website, while leaving in “territorial integrity”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What would make chancellor Scholz defend Artsakh’s right to self-determination, or was it a mistake on his part?</li>
<li>How important are these developments? Are these in preparation for status, or peace negotiations between Artsakh and Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What levers does the EU have to enforce ICJ rulings?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pashinyans-stony-silence">Pashinyan’s Stony Silence</h3>
<p>While Olaf Scholz was <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ohHEzIy6E">talking</a> “self-determination”, Pashinyan next to him was completely silent. Specifically, Scholz said that the conflict in Artsakh should be resolved based on the territorial integrity of Armenia and Azerbaijan, as well as self-determination of people in Artsakh. Pashinyan was stone silent.</p>
<p>Later on, in a community <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4FCOzIOiIE">meeting</a> Pashinyan was asked about self-determination again, and he completely avoided using that term.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan under orders not to talk about self-determination? Even his party’s 2021 program talks about it, so it&rsquo;s not like we’re bringing up ancient history.</li>
<li>What does the removal of the “self-determination” text mean?</li>
<li>Scholz also mentioned concerns about Armenia helping Russia evade EU sanctions? How serious are these concerns and what are the risks for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="visit-of-egyptian-president-to-armenia">Visit of Egyptian President to Armenia</h3>
<p>At the end of January Egyptian president Abdel Fattah <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102834.html">El-Sisi was in Armenia</a>. El-Sisi offered readiness to mediate between Armenia and Azerbaijan, if the two countries were interested in that.  He also talked about a mutual trust between Egypt and Armenia, and of course we know that there’s a solid Armenian community there.</p>
<p>This relationship, with Egypt, but also with a lot of the Arab world, is a deeply underutilized, or under-managed vector in Armenian diplomacy.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was such a high level visit to Armenia made, and why now?</li>
<li>Do you expect this relationship to grow?</li>
<li>What are the potential bases for such a relationship?</li>
<li>Are there any obstacles to Armenian-Egyptian relations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Today is Vazgen Sargsyan’s birthday</li>
<li><strong>Yeghia</strong> - Keeping hope alive in Lebanon.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/234/thumbnail-234.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/234/thumbnail-234.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12382253-turkish-politics-after-earthquake-artsakh-blockade-developments-armenian-diplomacy-egyptian-president-in-armenia-ep-234-mar-5-2023.mp3" length="32143592" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 233, Mar 2, 2023
[EP233]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/233-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230302/</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12364873-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-2-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>233</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 233, Mar 2, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 2, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 233, Mar 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Day to day Conditions
* Meeting of Artsakh and Azerbaijani Reps
* What is Artsakh Discussing at the Meeting
* What Concessions are being Discussed?
* New State Minister Gurgen Nersesyan
* More Azeri Shootings in Martakert and Askeran
Episode 233 | Recorded: March 2, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 233, Mar 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Day to day Conditions
* Meeting of Artsakh and Azerbaijani Reps
* What is Artsakh Discussing at the Meeting
* What Concessions are being Discussed?
* New State Minister Gurgen Nersesyan
* More Azeri Shootings in Martakert and Askeran
Episode 233 | Recorded: March 2, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 233, Mar 2, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Mar 2, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Day to day Conditions
* Meeting of Artsakh and Azerbaijani Reps
* What is Artsakh Discussing at the Meeting
* What Concessions are being Discussed?
* New State Minister Gurgen Nersesyan
* More Azeri Shootings in Martakert and Askeran
Episode 233 | Recorded: March 2, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The news yesterday was that another<a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32294757.html"> meeting</a> took place between Artsakh and Azerbaijani representatives.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your view of the meetings between the two sides, who are reportedly discussing humanitarian and operational issues?</li>
</ul>
<p>Today, president Arayik Harutyunyan<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105313.html"> introduced</a> the new state minister, Gurgen Nersesyan, who is replacing Ruben Vardanyan. He has the helm of all Artsakh ministries except foreign affairs and defense. Those roll up directly to president Harutyunyan.</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your impression of Nerseyan, what do we know about him?</li>
</ul>
<p>We’ve read that the chair of the Artsakh national security council, Samvel Shahramanyan, is<a href="https://168.am/2023/03/01/1840077.html"> leading the negotiations</a> with the Azeris, who have appointed MP Ramin Mammadov as their rep. Together with Shahramanyan is<a href="https://hraparak.am/post/36fecc2b0aaad4d8fdcede11e0cb865d"> Sergey Martirosyan</a>, who has ties to Russian General Rustam Muratov.</p>
<ul>
<li>Who are they?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Azeri side has <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3716953.html">presented</a> these meetings as being about “reintegrating Karabakh Armenians back into Azerbaijan”. There have been multiple official<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105355.html"> rejections</a> of this view from Artsakh, and<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105361.html"> statements</a> that Artsakh is not discussing its status with Azerbaijan, and the current talks are not a replacement for peace negotiations.</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s the view from inside?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/233/thumbnail-233.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/233/thumbnail-233.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12364873-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-mar-2-2023.mp3" length="9202485" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>763</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms | Russia Warns the EU and Armenia | Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue | Ep 232 - Feb 26, 2023
[EP232]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/232-arthur-khachikyan-35th-anniversary-sumgait-pogroms-turkey-after-earthquake-anniversary-ukraine-war-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-since-munich/</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12349378-sumgait-pogroms-turkey-after-earthquake-ukraine-armenia-azerbaijan-ep-232-feb-26-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>232</itunes:episode><itunes:title>35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms | Russia Warns the EU and Armenia | Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue | Ep 232 - Feb 26, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 26, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms
* Turkey after the Earthquake
* One Year Anniversary of the War in Ukraine
* Azerbaijan-Armenian Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 232 | Recorded: February 28, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms
* Turkey after the Earthquake
* One Year Anniversary of the War in Ukraine
* Azerbaijan-Armenian Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 232 | Recorded: February 28, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms
* Turkey after the Earthquake
* One Year Anniversary of the War in Ukraine
* Azerbaijan-Armenian Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 232 | Recorded: February 28, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="35th-anniversary-of-the-sumgait-pogroms">35th Anniversary of the Sumgait Pogroms</h2>
<p>Yesterday and today mark the 35th anniversary of the <a href="http://www.nkr.am/en/armenian-pogroms">pogroms</a> in Sumgait. Between February 27-29, 1988, the calls of Armenians in Karabakh for reunification with Armenia, which occurred earlier that month were met with brutal murder, violence, and plunder in Sumgait. More than 200 Armenians were killed, and Sumgait was eventually cleansed of its Armenian population. The organizers have not been punished and the real number of victims is unknown due to cover-up by Baku. This was the beginning of the complete annihilation of Armenian communities throughout Azerbaijan. Today a community estimated at over 250,000 Armenians in the Baku and Sumgait areas is gone, wiped out. Who remembers the Armenians of Azerbaijan?</p>
<h2 id="turkey-after-the-earthquake">Turkey after the Earthquake</h2>
<p>Three weeks ago, a 7.8 magnitude earthquake struck Turkey and Syria. The death toll in Turkey is around 45,000 people while in Syria it’s around 6,000. There are many Armenians among the casualties.</p>
<p>Armenia also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103623.html">dispatched</a> rescuers to both <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103641.html">Syria</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103700.html">Turkey</a>, and the border with Turkey was <a href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkiye/turkiye-armenia-border-reopens-after-30-year-hiatus-to-aid-quake-zone/2815736">opened</a> twice to let through convoys of trucks carrying Armenian aid to the distressed areas.</p>
<p>We’ve already discussed the debate that ensued within Armenian politics regarding this aid and its aims. Today let&rsquo;s to focus more on Turkey’s situation and how that affects us.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this earthquake shift Turkey’s attention from regional, Pan-Turkic, expansive policies for a time being?</li>
<li>Do the economics of the earthquake cause Turkey to take pause from encouraging Azerbaijan from maximalist positions, for example in pushing for a so-called “Zangezur corridor”, or assimilating Artsakh?</li>
<li>Will it pause from backing terrorists in the north of Syria?</li>
</ul>
<p>Prior to the Earthquake, Erdogan was busy ensuring his reelection in the May Presidential elections.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the earthquake affecting Erdogan’s hold on power, and does it shuffle the deck on the May presidential elections?</li>
<li>Has it weakened Erdogan vis-à-vis Putin?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the current phase of Turkish-Armenian so-called “Normalization”:</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the premises based upon which the Pashinyan government has engaged to “normalize”?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ukraine-one-year-later">Ukraine: One Year Later</h2>
<p>A few days ago marked the one year anniversary of the war in Ukraine. It started as a “special operation” which should have lasted a couple of weeks, but here we are a year later. The special operation has become a Russia vs the West proxy war on the territory of Ukraine, and it could easily explode into a wider, multi-front global disaster.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Who’s winning the Ukraine war?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="putins-speech">Putin’s speech</h3>
<p>Just before this anniversary Putin gave a “state of the country” <a href="https://rumble.com/v2aay62-putin-delivers-address-to-federal-assembly.html">address</a>. In general it seems like Putin kept the west surprised.</p>
<ul>
<li>Putin suspended Russia’s participation in the START nuclear treaties.</li>
<li>Putin rescinded the national security strategy document of Russia, which talked about Moldova (and its territorial integrity) as well as Russia’s participation in the OSCE Minsk Group.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment of Putin’s address?</li>
<li>Was this the “official” end of the OSCE MG?</li>
<li>What is the role of China in this conflict? Is this still a proxy war between Russia and the West, or is China and the West?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijan-armenia-negotiations">Azerbaijan Armenia Negotiations</h2>
<p>Last weekend Pashinyan attended the Annual Munich Security Conference. There was a public panel full of embarrassing scenes of Aliyev calling Pashinyan and Armenians “occupiers” and “capitulants”, of course with no response.</p>
<p>Since then the west has upped the intensity, pushing Armenia to sign Aliyev’s “peace treaty”. Some elements of this were leaked by Ashotyan, who showed a document that claimed he is 100% sure is genuine, which reconfirms that what is being negotiated is some form of guarantees of Armenians of Artsakh within the borders of Azerbaijan. Anthony Blinken has said that there will be a meeting in Brussels in the coming days.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you expect an  agreement to be signed soon? Is Brussels where the treaty is going to be signed?</li>
<li>Is this a final goodbye to Moscow? What consequences can be expected?</li>
</ul>
<p>In his recent interview just before the weekend, Security Council chair Armen Grigoryan <a href="https://youtu.be/q82vDKz_z9I">repeated</a> Nikol&rsquo;s claim that EU monitors are here to keep watch on Russians, and denied that they &ldquo;negotiated&rdquo; with the Ashotyan document, referring to the document disclosed by Ashotyan.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>When Pashinyan said the statement about keeping tabs on Russians, many of our guests declined to comment on it, writing it off as unprofessionalism or being emotional. But now, it appears that this messaging is coordinated. What does Armenian leadership want to get by this messaging?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="aliyev-visit-to-turkey">Aliyev visit to Turkey</h3>
<p>Aliyev visited Turkey last week. After the disastrous earthquake there, given the closeness of the countries, an official visit from Aliyev was expected to happen quickly and delays in the visit raised questions. Official reports about the meeting were sparse, however, there were <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/746919.html">reports </a>that Armenian-Azerbaijani relations were also a topic of discussion.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Turkey has multiple times said that relations with Armenia are conditional upon Armenia’s relations and establishment of so-called “peace” with Azerbaijan. However, some speculate that official Baku is not pleased with the recent sweet talk between Chavushoglu and Mirzoyan. How much credence should we give to such reports?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lavrov-visits-baku">Lavrov Visits Baku</h3>
<p>Lavrov <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1105160.html">visited</a> Baku today. Media reported that “special attention will be paid to the implementation of trilateral agreements between the leaders of Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia”.</p>
<p>The meeting comes right after the <a href="https://eurasianet.org/russias-ukraine-war-continues-to-impact-azerbaijans-oil-sector">fact</a> that the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline is no longer carrying any Russian oil due to Western sanctions.</p>
<p>In an announcement, Lavrov mentioned that having a passport control checkpoint on the Lachin/Berdzor corridor was not envisaged by the November 9/10 declaration, however, at the same time he said that military cargo was also not envisaged. Lavrov spoke about using technology to address this problem.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is going on between Azerbaijan and Russia?</li>
<li>There have been rumors that the Lachin/Berdzor corridor will reopen soon,</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="icj-ruling">ICJ Ruling</h3>
<p>Last week the ICJ partially <a href="https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/2023-02/180-20230222-SUM-01-00-EN.pdf">ruled </a>in favor of Armenia in response to Armenia’s request. Armenia had made 3 requests in its appeal:</p>
<ol>
<li>To take all measures in its disposal to unblock the Berdzor corridor
<ol>
<li>Court granted this request.</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>To cease orchestration and support of the “protesters”
2. Court said this was not necessary, and that peaceful assembly and protest was a protected act by CERD itself.</li>
<li>To fully restore and refrain from interrupting gas flows and electricity supplies to Artsakh from Armenia
3. Court said there was “not enough evidence” that Azerbaijan is involved in this.</li>
</ol>
<p>UN Secretary General Guterrez <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32290038.html">calls</a> the ICJ ruling “binding”, and the EU <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1104920.html">notes</a> this as well. But Azerbaijan has yet to make any changes in its m.o. regarding the Artskah Blockade.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does “binding” mean? Who will enforce this ruling?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="developments-in-artsakh">Developments in Artsakh</h3>
<p>Through all this of course the Artsakh Blockade has continued, this was day 79. Of course we are aware that on Thursday Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan sacked state minister Ruben Vardanyan. Both Aliyev and Pashinyan had been calling for his ouster.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about these developments?</li>
<li>Does this leave Artsakh stronger or weaker in its ramping negotiations with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What will be the agenda of Artsakh-Azerbaijan negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, let’s wrap up our topics here. I’d like to ask each of you if there’s been something on your mind this past week that you want to talk about.</p>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Cultural Appropriation - the NY Metropolitan Museum reclassifying Ivan Aivazovsky as a “Ukrainian”.</li>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong> - Mass Hypnotism and Consumerism consuming Armenia.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP230]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/230-anna-abrahamian-munich-artsakh-ruben-vardanyan-samvel-babayan/</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12324750-anna-abrahamian-munich-security-conference-artsakh-ep-230-february-24-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>230</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Abrahamian: Munich Security Conference | Artsakh</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Today we’re going to talk with Anna Abrahamian about two or three topics.
* The Munich Security Conference 2023.
* We’ll touch on Russian president Putin’s state of the federation address.
* The latest political developments in Artsakh.
Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian), a geopolitical analyst who splits her time between Moscow and Athens. Having obtained training in international law, Anna has worked in such noteworthy institutions as the Defense Analyses Institute in Athens as well as the Crisis Group in Brussels. Today, Anna provides her analysis on geopolitics and Armenian politics to her followers on social media.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 230 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Today we’re going to talk with Anna Abrahamian about two or three topics.
* The Munich Security Conference 2023.
* We’ll touch on Russian president Putin’s state of the federation address.
* The latest political developments in Artsakh.
Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian), a geopolitical analyst who splits her time between Moscow and Athens. Having obtained training in international law, Anna has worked in such noteworthy institutions as the Defense Analyses Institute in Athens as well as the Crisis Group in Brussels. Today, Anna provides her analysis on geopolitics and Armenian politics to her followers on social media.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 230 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Today we’re going to talk with Anna Abrahamian about two or three topics.
* The Munich Security Conference 2023.
* We’ll touch on Russian president Putin’s state of the federation address.
* The latest political developments in Artsakh.
Guest:
* [Anna Abrahamian](/guest/aabrahamian), a geopolitical analyst who splits her time between Moscow and Athens. Having obtained training in international law, Anna has worked in such noteworthy institutions as the Defense Analyses Institute in Athens as well as the Crisis Group in Brussels. Today, Anna provides her analysis on geopolitics and Armenian politics to her followers on social media.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 230 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="discussion">Discussion</h1>
<h2 id="munich">Munich</h2>
<p>For a lot of Armenians, last weekend’s Annual Munich Security Conference was defined by the humiliating scenes of Aliyev calling Pashinyan and Armenians “occupiers” and “capitulants”. We’ll go into the Armenian aspect of Munich, but we wanted to talk to you about more global developments.</p>
<p>For instance, the US tried to raise <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/18/politics/us-warns-allies-china-russia/index.html">warnings</a> to China about supporting Russia in Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you summarize what the Munich Security Conference means for the world? What were some of the major developments there?</li>
</ul>
<p>On the first anniversary of the war in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin gave a hallmark speech.</p>
<p>Question?</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate Putin’s speech? What do you think of the prospects of the Russia- West confrontation?</li>
<li>What does Putin’s recall of the national security strategy mean for us? Since that document included recognition of territorial integrity of Moldova and even cooperation in the OSCE Minsk Group.</li>
</ul>
<p>While the focus was heavily on the one-year anniversary of the war in Ukraine, it seems that Western leaders also paid attention to our region. Both Pashinyan and Aliyev attended the Munich conference. Each of them met with EU co-president Charles Michel, and they also had a trilateral meeting with US secretary of state Anthony Blinken.</p>
<p>French president Macron said that the ongoing conflicts in the South Caucasus and other places can not be ignored. He mentioned Nikol Pashinyan, referring to him as his friend and that he was always going to support him. He also <a href="https://asbarez.com/france-views-armenia-as-buffer-to-neo-colonial-russia/">said</a> that France sees Armenia as a buffer against “neo-colonial Russia”.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Some say that this attention from the west is a good thing and Armenia can use that as a counter-balance to regional powers. Others fear that Armenia may be turned into the next Ukraine, as a “buffer” to Russia. What are your thoughts about this?</li>
<li>What are you thoughts about the meetings and “dialogue” between Pashinyan and Aliyev? Was it a wise idea to hold these public panels with the enemy leader?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<p>OK let’s turn our attention to the latest developments in Stepanakert.</p>
<p>After nearly a month of hearing the swirling speculation and political rumors, it finally happened:  state minister Ruben Vardanyan was sacked by Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan just yesterday, after he had appointed him to the post on November 4, 2022.</p>
<p>Two or three weeks ago news came out that some Artsakh officials had traveled not only to Armenia, but were also in Russia. Then Harutyunyan came back and launched an initiative to amend the constitution of Artsakh, to allow the parliament to appoint a president if he resigned during martial law. This led to speculation that he wanted to resign, and not leave Artsakh in a constitutional crisis in the middle of the blockade. Then Ruben Vardanyan returned to Stepanakert a week ago, and the Azeri demands for his departure from not only office, but also Artsakh, crescendoed and hit a peak in Munich with Aliyev insulting Vardanyan and saying he would not negotiate with Russian puppets over Artsakh.</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about Ruben Vardanyan’s removal?</li>
</ul>
<p>It seems like Pashinyan lined up with Aliyev to demand Vardanyan’s ouster. One Civil Contract MP, Gagik Melkonyan, last week <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32281869.html">said</a> that “Vardanyan must go even if that means that Armenians bowed to Aliyev”.</p>
<p>Let’s listen to a clip from that interview:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/dFm7ioCjJRg?start=45">https://youtu.be/dFm7ioCjJRg</a> Starting from 0:45</li>
</ul>
<p>I guess we should be surprised, capitulation is a lifestyle for the current government.</p>
<p>Reportedly Pashinyan was so concerned with Vardanyan’s appearance in Artsakh that he asked Putin if he supported Vardanyan, and Putin said he did not.</p>
<p>A day before Vardanyan’s sacking, Samvel Babayan made an appearance in Artsakh and gave an <a href="https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU">interview</a> to Artsakh State TV. He publicly said that he wants to be appointed as state minister and he could show results in just 100 days.</p>
<p>Then he made some eyebrow raising statements, such as that Artsakh can help Aliyev get rid of Russians from the region and the key to that lies with Artsakh. And this is why Aliyev would be interested in talking to Artsakh.</p>
<p>He said that this would be possible by raising confidence building measures between Armenians and Azeris.</p>
<p>Let’s listen to a few clips from this interview:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=548">https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=548</a> 9:08
<ul>
<li>Why should Azerbaijan desire to pull back its soldiers with automatic weapons from advantageous positions?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=1267">https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=1267</a> 21:07
<ul>
<li>Give me 100 days. You will eventually have no choice.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=2075">https://youtu.be/yjxXHID9ZYU?t=2075</a>  34:35
<ul>
<li>Kashen mine. He also said he didn’t see a problem if mines in Artsakh are owned not by Armenians but perhaps by Brits or even Azeris, as long as people from Artsakh are employed there and the mine pays taxes to Artsakh:</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>For our listeners who don’t know, who is Samvel Babayan? Let’s say that Samvel Babayan’s (or is it Nikol Pashinyan’s) brilliant strategy succeeds and Russian peacekeepers are out while Artsakh army is demilitarized, what does he expect Aliyev to do then?</li>
<li>Can we assume here that Samvel Babayan is the agent of Pashinyan’s “era of peace”? Was Babayan auditioning in front of Ilham Aliyev?</li>
<li>We’ve seen Pashinyan in the past send out statements, where he said that if Artsakh Armenians are given security guarantees, then perhaps Artsakh could be demilitarized. Is this a continuation of this line of thought?</li>
</ul>
<p>Despite what appears to be a Pashinyan political win here, according to <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/745077.html">polls</a>, Vardanyan is the most trusted and popular figure in Artsakh. He says he’s planning to stay there, despite admitting that there is pressure on him to leave.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Should he stay?</li>
<li>What can he achieve there?</li>
<li>At this point in time, what does a solution look like for Artsakh, in your view?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
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[EP231]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/231-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230224/</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12324822-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-24-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>231</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 231, Feb 24, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 24, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 231, Feb 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rouben Vardanyan sacked in Stepanakert
* Samuel Babayan in Artsakh
* Azeri and Artsakh reps meet to resume Gas & Electricity
    * Further Azeri demands, Artsakh red lines
* Medical topics
Episode 231 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 231, Feb 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rouben Vardanyan sacked in Stepanakert
* Samuel Babayan in Artsakh
* Azeri and Artsakh reps meet to resume Gas & Electricity
    * Further Azeri demands, Artsakh red lines
* Medical topics
Episode 231 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 231, Feb 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rouben Vardanyan sacked in Stepanakert
* Samuel Babayan in Artsakh
* Azeri and Artsakh reps meet to resume Gas & Electricity
    * Further Azeri demands, Artsakh red lines
* Medical topics
Episode 231 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP229]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/229-artur-papyan-internet-censorship-laws-cyberthreats-cyberspying-armenia/</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12324227-artur-papyan-cyber-laws-and-threats-in-armenia-ep-229-february-24-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>229</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artur Papyan: Cyber Laws and Threats in Armenia</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking about the Internet censorship bill proposed in Armenia before the new year. We’ll also talk about the threat and activity of some Cyber spying malware in Armenia, such as the Israeli Pegasus software, which represents a threat to journalists and freedom of expression.
Topics:
- Censoring the Internet
- Cyberthreats and Cyberspying in Armenia
Guest: [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan), malware researcher, digital security consultant, co-founder of [CyberHub](https://cyberhub.am) and director of the [Media DIversity Institute](https://mdi.am).
Episode 229 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</itunes:summary><description>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking about the Internet censorship bill proposed in Armenia before the new year. We’ll also talk about the threat and activity of some Cyber spying malware in Armenia, such as the Israeli Pegasus software, which represents a threat to journalists and freedom of expression.
Topics:
- Censoring the Internet
- Cyberthreats and Cyberspying in Armenia
Guest: [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan), malware researcher, digital security consultant, co-founder of [CyberHub](https://cyberhub.am) and director of the [Media DIversity Institute](https://mdi.am).
Episode 229 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</description><googleplay:description>In this Conversations on Groong episode, we’ll be talking about the Internet censorship bill proposed in Armenia before the new year. We’ll also talk about the threat and activity of some Cyber spying malware in Armenia, such as the Israeli Pegasus software, which represents a threat to journalists and freedom of expression.
Topics:
- Censoring the Internet
- Cyberthreats and Cyberspying in Armenia
Guest: [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan), malware researcher, digital security consultant, co-founder of [CyberHub](https://cyberhub.am) and director of the [Media DIversity Institute](https://mdi.am).
Episode 229 | Recorded: February 24, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="cyber-laws-and-threats-in-armenia">Cyber Laws and Threats in Armenia</h1>
<h2 id="censoring-the-internet">Censoring the Internet</h2>
<p>On December 22, 2022 the Armenian ministry of justice caused a big commotion among the media community by <a href="https://www.e-draft.am/projects/5186">publishing</a> a proposal for legislative changes that would effectively allow the government to censor the internet completely or partially in the event of martial law. The deadline for submitting comments was Armenian Christmas, January 6, 2023, approximately 10 work days (with NY in between).</p>
<p>This is not the first time Pashinyan’s government has sought the power to censor the press and information flow to the people. If you recall, back in July ‘22, outgoing prosecutor general Arthur Davtyan’s outgoing slap at the people was a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31930148.html">recommendation</a> to the government to enact such a law.</p>
<p>Anyway, the proposal was slammed by international watchdogs such as Committee to Protect Journalists (<a href="https://cpj.org/2023/01/armenian-draft-legislation-would-give-government-sweeping-wartime-censorship-powers/">CPJ</a>), and even the Armenian government’s then <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100774.html">ombudswoman</a>, Kristine Grigoryan. Armenia’s Union of Journalists also deplored the proposal, and strongly <a href="https://168.am/2023/02/14/1833302.html">urged</a> the government to rework it. The CPJ did not mince words, they said “The Armenian authorities should not use military conflicts as an excuse to curtail press freedom”.</p>
<p>Your NGO, Media Diversity Initiative, also officially <a href="https://mdi.am/en/archives/1631">responded</a> to this proposal.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Normally such major changes require a lot of consultation with stakeholders. Were such consultations held ahead of time?</li>
<li>Who would be the major stakeholders?</li>
<li>What are the main issues with the proposal?</li>
<li>What is its current status?</li>
</ul>
<p>One recent event corroborated your observation: two weeks ago when Armenia was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32247683.html">downgraded</a> in Transparency International’s 2022 Corruption Perception <a href="https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022">Index ranking</a>, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32263757.html">blamed</a> the Armenian media for it!</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Why is this government so preoccupied with information censorship, primarily to its own people?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="cyberthreats-and-cyberspying-in-armenia">Cyberthreats and Cyberspying in Armenia</h2>
<h3 id="pegasus--predator">Pegasus &amp; Predator</h3>
<p>The NGO you’re part of, <a href="https://cyberhub.am/en/">Cyber Hub</a>, has made announcements recently that hundreds of Armenian journalists, politicians and even civil servants were targets of malicious activity with <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel-spyware.html">Pegasus</a> and Predator. <a href="https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/how-we-protect-users-0-day-attacks/">Google</a>, <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2021/07/15/protecting-customers-from-a-private-sector-offensive-actor-using-0-day-exploits-and-devilstongue-malware/">Microsoft</a>, and other large tech companies have also in the past warned about the activity of nation state actors against Armenian targets.</p>
<p>Your other NGO, Media Diversity Institute, has also been <a href="https://mdi.am/en/archives/1540">on the record</a> documenting cases of attacks against Journalism and media freedom.</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe to us what is happening?</li>
</ul>
<p>This type of activity is associated with nation states, some <a href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/research/2021/07/forensic-methodology-report-how-to-catch-nso-groups-pegasus/">example cases</a> are described by Amnesty International, which has done extensive forensics to combat Pegasus. More recently there have been questions around which nation states. Certain security analysts argue that because the Israeli company NSO Group, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/12/us/politics/fbi-pegasus-spyware-phones-nso.html">which sells Pegasus</a>, usually restricts the usage to the territory of the government that acquires the solution, this must mean that Armenia can be the only licensee of the usage on Armenian territory, especially since it’s so widespread.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about the Armenian government’s overt or covert programs to target citizens with tools such as Pegasus?</li>
<li>What is the difference between Pegasus and Predator?</li>
<li>How do you detect it? How do I check my phone?
<ul>
<li>Note: the Amnesty page has good leads to a DIY tool, but it is complicated; don’t expect your mom to help herself!</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Recently, the company Checkpoint released a <a href="https://research.checkpoint.com/2023/operation-silent-watch-desktop-surveillance-in-azerbaijan-and-armenia/">warning</a> to users in Armenia about a new malware that is targeting users and apparently organized by a nation state actor.</p>
<h4 id="question-2">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What can you tell us about this new malware? How does it spread?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you Arthur!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/229/thumbnail-229.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/229/thumbnail-229.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12324227-artur-papyan-cyber-laws-and-threats-in-armenia-ep-229-february-24-2023.mp3" length="29830359" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2475</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Suren Sargsyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 72
[EP228]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/228-suren-sargsyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-72/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12300479-suren-sargsyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-72-ep-228-feb-21-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>228</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Suren Sargsyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 72</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - February 21, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan), founder and a President at the Armenian Center for American Studies, a research center based in Yerevan.
***"Pashinyan’s participation in Munich Security Conference didn’t give anything to Armenia" - Suren Sargsyan***
#### Topic:
Today is day 72 of the total blockade of Artsakh. For 72 days, the 120K citizens of Artsakh have not had the ability to enter or exit their country. They are deprived of the ability to visit Armenia or to receive guests from Armenia. With very limited supplies, they are forced to ration food with the help of food stamps in order to survive. Children are deprived of the right of education, since the schools can’t be properly heated due to Azerbaijan also disrupting gas supplies from Armenia.
Today, we’ll talk about the blockade in Artsakh and related issues, including the Munich Security Conference that took place over the weekend as well as talking about the past and the future of the OSCE Minsk Group.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 228 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan), founder and a President at the Armenian Center for American Studies, a research center based in Yerevan.
***"Pashinyan’s participation in Munich Security Conference didn’t give anything to Armenia" - Suren Sargsyan***
#### Topic:
Today is day 72 of the total blockade of Artsakh. For 72 days, the 120K citizens of Artsakh have not had the ability to enter or exit their country. They are deprived of the ability to visit Armenia or to receive guests from Armenia. With very limited supplies, they are forced to ration food with the help of food stamps in order to survive. Children are deprived of the right of education, since the schools can’t be properly heated due to Azerbaijan also disrupting gas supplies from Armenia.
Today, we’ll talk about the blockade in Artsakh and related issues, including the Munich Security Conference that took place over the weekend as well as talking about the past and the future of the OSCE Minsk Group.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 228 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan), founder and a President at the Armenian Center for American Studies, a research center based in Yerevan.
***"Pashinyan’s participation in Munich Security Conference didn’t give anything to Armenia" - Suren Sargsyan***
#### Topic:
Today is day 72 of the total blockade of Artsakh. For 72 days, the 120K citizens of Artsakh have not had the ability to enter or exit their country. They are deprived of the ability to visit Armenia or to receive guests from Armenia. With very limited supplies, they are forced to ration food with the help of food stamps in order to survive. Children are deprived of the right of education, since the schools can’t be properly heated due to Azerbaijan also disrupting gas supplies from Armenia.
Today, we’ll talk about the blockade in Artsakh and related issues, including the Munich Security Conference that took place over the weekend as well as talking about the past and the future of the OSCE Minsk Group.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 228 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="munich-security-conference">Munich Security Conference</h3>
<p>Over this past weekend the annual Munich Security Conference took place and both Pashinyan and Aliyev attended. Each of them met with EU co-president Charles Michel, and they also had a trilateral meeting with US secretary of state Anthony Blinken.</p>
<p>For Armenians, the conference was highlighted by the fact that there was a trilateral meeting held between US Secretary of State Blinken, Pashinyan and Aliyev.</p>
<p>Following the meeting, a panel discussion was held on security in the South Caucasus. In the initial <a href="https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/230216_MSC2023_Agenda_WS.pdf">agenda</a> (as of Feb 16) Pashinyan’s name was missing from this session, but the agenda was modified <a href="https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/230217_MSC2023_Agenda_WS.pdf">last minute</a> to include Pashinyan. Note, this was the first time since the 44-day war that the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan, who fought a war with each other 3 years ago, had a discussion in public.</p>
<p>It seems that the US and the EU (or the Collective West) are now fully in control of the agenda of negotiations between Aliyev and Pashinyan. Armenia is now firmly sending pro-western signals, including snubbing the CSTO, alienating Russia by declaring that the EU observers are here to keep tabs on Russia so that they don’t attack Azerbaijan. Even Aliyev said that he’s OK with whoever can help him get Armenia to sign his so-called “peace treaty”.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>How would you assess this development in the negotiations process?</li>
<li>Let’s talk about the debate or the panel discussion that was held between Aliyev and Pashinyan:
<ul>
<li>How did you find the back and forth between them?</li>
<li>Note: Aliyev said that Armenia capitulated and even afterwards elected Nikol. NP was silent.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Russia was not invited to the Munich Security Conference. Understandable because of the Ukraine war, but incomprehensible from the standpoint of world security.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>With Russia left out of the process how will this affect Armenia-Russia relations?</li>
</ul>
<p>Russia has given very dire warnings to the EU and to Armenia, almost warning Armenia with the possible loss of its statehood, that it considers the EU mission in Armenia a destabilizing factor. Meanwhile, the EU has indicated many times, most recently through the Croatian foreign minister,  that its mission <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103649.html">can not guarantee</a> that further aggressions will not happen against Armenia, and Armenia has not shown any discernible activity to rearm its military.</p>
<h4 id="questions-2">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of this development?</li>
<li>Do you think it’s a mistake for Armenia to damage its relations with Russia, and trust its security to … well, what are we entrusting our security to? 100 civilians with binoculars?</li>
<li>Is Armenia putting its eggs in the wrong basket, trusting our security to far away powers who can not project power past either Russia or Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ruben-vardanyan-factor">Ruben Vardanyan factor</h3>
<p>Aliyev continues to rant about Ruben Vardanyan, <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3712287.html">calling</a> him a “Russian citizen, a criminal, and oligarch”. Quite interesting words coming from someone who is at the center of a new scandal every year that gets published by anti-corruption watchdogs. Anyway, Aliyev said that Azerbaijan will negotiate with Armenians in Karabakh if and only if Ruben Vardanyan leaves.</p>
<h4 id="questions-3">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What is the reason for Aliyev’s anger with Ruben Vardanyan?</li>
<li>Many Pashinyan supporters say that direct negotiations between Baku and Stepanakert is a victory, but realistically speaking are these going to be equal negotiations? For instance, do you think that anything around the status of Artsakh could be under negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="osce-minsk-group">OSCE Minsk Group</h3>
<p>Much has been said about a recent <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32254588.html">Azatutyun</a> <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32250473.html">report</a> which, based on a new set of declassified documents from the OSCE Minsk Group, attempts to paint the picture that the international mediators behind closed doors were against the self-determination of Artsakh. The documents specifically mention meetings between Madeleine Albright and Jack Chirac who met in early 1997 and agreed to present a unified position and put an end to the conflict. Secret communications apparently show US and French co-chairs despairing about the unwillingness of Artsakh authorities to compromise and the need to support Levon Ter-Petrosyan who is more compromising.</p>
<p>These are pre-1998 documents, when Kocharyan had not yet taken over the presidency of Armenia and Arkady Ghukasyan was president in Artsakh. Pro-Pashinyan forces immediately began using this as evidence that the chances of independence of Artsakh were never so great.</p>
<h4 id="questions-4">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Did this report contain any surprises for you, what did you learn?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armen Ashotyan found some interesting details in those documents that were not mentioned by Azatutyun.</p>
<p>For instance, in February 1997, Alexander Arzumanyan (Armenia’s FM) and advisor to the president Libaridian had each met with US Secretary of State where the former explained to his US colleague that the full agreement should not be shared with Artsakh leadership since they will reject it, and it is important to expose the agreemeents to Artsakhtsis slowly, in piecemeal.</p>
<p>One of the biggest weapons used by Armenia’s opposition against Kocharyan at the time and ever since was that Kocharyan, who became president in 1998, left Artsakh out of negotiations. But here we see LTP’s administration doing just that and even conspiring to hide important negotiation details from the Karabakh authorities</p>
<h4 id="questions-5">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Does it seem like Kocharyan coming to Yerevan was actually an attempt by Artsakh to come back to the negotiations table and assert its own self-determination? The rest just seems like Yerevan political intrigue.</li>
</ul>
<p>The recent US appointment of “Caucasus Negotiator” doesn’t mention “OSCE Minsk Group co-chair” as a position or function, unlike Reeker or his predecessors had. Plus, at present, the US has been involved hands-on at the Secretary of State level. This is a very high level of focus on Armenai and Artsakh. Russia, on its part, recently said that the US and France have sent the OSCE MG to the dustbin of history.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think: Is the OSCE MG dead?</li>
</ul>
<p>Alright, we’ll leave it there for today! Thank you Suren!</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/228/thumbnail-228.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/228/thumbnail-228.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12300479-suren-sargsyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-72-ep-228-feb-21-2023.mp3" length="26733353" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2223</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 227, Feb 21, 2023
[EP227]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/227-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230221/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12300479-suren-sargsyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-72-ep-228-feb-21-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>227</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 227, Feb 21, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 21, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 227, Feb 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 21, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
Episode 227 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 227, Feb 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 21, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
Episode 227 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 227, Feb 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 21, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* The Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
Episode 227 | Recorded: February 21, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/227/thumbnail-227.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/227/thumbnail-227.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12300479-suren-sargsyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-72-ep-228-feb-21-2023.mp3" length="26726677" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement | Russia Warns the EU and Armenia | Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue | Ep 226 - Feb 19, 2023
[EP226]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/226-anna-karapetyan-35th-anniversary-karabakh-movement-russia-warns-eu-and-armenia-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-continue/</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12295856-35th-anniversary-of-karabakh-movement-russia-warns-the-eu-and-armenia-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-ep-226-feb-19-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>226</itunes:episode><itunes:title>35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement | Russia Warns the EU and Armenia | Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue | Ep 226 - Feb 19, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 19, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement
* Russia Warns the EU and Armenia
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 226 | Recorded: February 19, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement
* Russia Warns the EU and Armenia
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 226 | Recorded: February 19, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* 35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement
* Russia Warns the EU and Armenia
* Armenian Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue
* Personal topics
Episode 226 | Recorded: February 19, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="35th-anniversary-of-the-karabakh-movement">35th Anniversary of the Karabakh Movement</h2>
<p>That today is the 35th anniversary of the Karabakh movement, which started the entire struggle for independence and self-determination of Artsakh, and finally its secession from a crumbling Soviet Union, the same as Armenia, Azerbaijan, and all the other states.</p>
<p>This anniversary is being celebrated in precarious circumstances, with Artsakh under siege, Armenia proper in some kind of stupor or apathy, and an equally inactive Diaspora.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Thoughts about this milestone?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-warns-the-eu-and-armenia">Russia Warns the EU and Armenia</h2>
<p>The EU <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32235932.html">approved</a> an expanded, two-year civilian monitoring mission to the borders of Armenia. An EU observer mission of 100 staff, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32279747.html">only 50</a> of which are actual observers, will be stationed along the Armenian borders with Azerbaijan, including those with <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1dNpwNu3X4">Nakhijevan</a>. Their HQ will be in Yeghegnadzor (Vayots Dzor province). So that is 50 people for 1,000 kilometers of border.</p>
<p>The Armenian government was enthusiastic about this and FM Mirzoyan said that the mission will contribute to “peace and stability” in the region. Meanwhile, Armenia has rejected a proposed CSTO mission to Armenia, which reportedly also included an armed component.</p>
<p>Iran diplomatically <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/743957.html">signaled</a> its dissatisfaction with the EU mission, saying that extra-regional players could destabilize the region. Russia in its turn was much more vehement <a href="https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1618955637244977152">expressing</a> displeasure and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32241187.html">deploring</a> this mission.</p>
<p>Armenia seems to have further inflamed Russia, Iran and Azerbaijan with statements that crossed all of their assertions. First, Armenia <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103776.html">said</a> that Iran is actually not opposed to the EU mission, something which the Iranians had to deny. Then Pashinyan <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2023/02/09/opposition-MP-Pashinyan-EU/2792300">said</a> that the EU monitors will not only monitor the borders with Azerbaijan, but also Russian troops in Armenia and the peacekeepers in Artsakh, and he <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103689.html">justified</a> this by saying that Azerbaijan has been complaining to the west that Armenia and Russia are conspiring to attack it.</p>
<p>This was refuted by the EU, and also Russia, who said that Russia had never heard Azerbaijan express concern or fear or being attacked by Russia. Russia’s State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin also issued a <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32269711.html">stern warning</a> to the EU and Armenia, saying that consequences of leaning towards the EU could lead to “losing the country”.</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Can you explain why Russia has issued such a dire warning?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia has continued rejecting CSTO missions to its borders. Last week Lavrov said that a mission could be <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103157.html">deployed within a day or two</a>, but Armenia’s government has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103528.html">expressed doubts</a> about it, and also given various excuses why the CSTO is not a desirable mission. For example, they’ve said that since the CSTO countries have not recognized Azerbaijan as the aggressor, and do not recognize Armenia’s borders, then they would not be able to carry out the mission properly.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Armenian leadership states that they feel betrayed by its alliances, bilaterally with Russia, and through the CSTO. But on the flip side, Russia is also expressing feelings of betrayal by Armenia. Can you discuss the dynamics of this relationship souring?</li>
<li>Why is it so important for Armenian leaders to get CSTO explicitly to recognize Azerbaijan as an aggressor, when I don’t think the EU has done the same either.</li>
<li>How does the Ukraine crisis figure into this picture?</li>
<li>Is there a way to repair the relationship?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="gas-politics">Gas Politics</h3>
<p>On February 18, Gazprom Armenia announced that gas supply to Armenia will be restricted due to disruptions in the North Caucasus-Transcaucasia Transit Gas Pipeline, which is used to deliver natural gas to Georgia and Armenia. Gazprom&rsquo;s announcement mentions that gas supplies to gas stations that provide CNG will be limited. Gas supply was restored by Feb. 20.</p>
<p>While some circles were quick to make unverifiable accusations that Russia was restricting the gas deliberately, we should also mention that Russia has used provision of cheap natural gas as a political leverage, including recently with Moldova.</p>
<p>However, given Armenia’s recent assertive pro-western positioning, it is an important opportunity to remember that Armenia is quite dependent on cheap Russian gas, using up around 2B cubic meters per year at a price of <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32148842.html">$165 per thousand cubic meters</a>. This is about 1/10 of the current market price. Economist and former prime minister Hrant Bagratian <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaC5Cfu-DU4">says</a> that if Armenia were forced to pay market price, Armenia would forfeit a “Russian subsidy equal to $2.6B dollars per year.”</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>How likely is the possibility of Russia using natural gas as leverage against Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-continue">Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations Continue</h2>
<h3 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations</h3>
<p>Talks about a “peace treaty” continue. After his visit to Turkey, Ararat Mirzoyan said that Armenia has reviewed the next successive iteration of Azerbaijani proposal and submitted its counter-proposals.</p>
<h4 id="questions-2">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Who is acting as a conduit between the two countries, in transferring these proposals?</li>
<li>Oposition members Armen Ashotyan  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3CN5YJG-M">suspects</a> that Ankara is now fulfilling this role. Is this likely?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="munich-security-conference">Munich Security Conference</h3>
<p>Over this past weekend the annual Munich Security Conference took place and both Pashinyan and Aliyev attended. Each of them met with EU co-president Charles Michel, and they also had a trilateral meeting with US secretary of state Anthony Blinken.</p>
<h4 id="note">Note:</h4>
<ul>
<li>In the initial agenda (as of Feb 16) Aliyev is mentioned in the <a href="https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/230216_MSC2023_Agenda_WS.pdf">agenda</a> as a participant in the “Moving Mountains? Building Security in the South Caucasus” panel discussion along with Georgia’s Prime Minister Gharibashvili. However, the agenda was modified at the <a href="https://securityconference.org/assets/user_upload/230217_MSC2023_Agenda_WS.pdf">last minute</a> to include Pashinyan in that panel session.</li>
</ul>
<p>The focus of the conference was heavily on the one-year anniversary of the war in Ukraine, and French president Macron said that the ongoing conflicts in the South Caucasus and other places can not be ignored. He mentioned Nikol Pashinyan, referring to him as his friend and that he was always going to support him.</p>
<p>With <a href="https://asbarez.com/france-views-armenia-as-buffer-to-neo-colonial-russia/">comments</a> from Macron, and meetings with Michel and Blinken, there is a very clear emphasis on western solutions in the South Caucasus.</p>
<h4 id="questions-3">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan and Aliyev participated in the session called “Moving Mountains? Building Security in the South Caucasus”, which was broadcast publicly. What points were made by both sides?</li>
<li>We heard Macron also make very pro-Armenian statements during the 44-day war. Has anything substantive come out of these meetings?</li>
</ul>
<p>Russia <a href="https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20230217-security-conference-opens-with-ukraine-and-china-but-no-russia">was not invited</a> to the Munich conference by Europeans who sometimes think they’re at war with Russia and other times <a href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-says-it-is-not-a-warring-party-in-ukraine/a-64541484">deny</a> that. And Pashinyan’s rejection of Russia and the CSTO in favor of European geopolitical interests is obvious to all the analysts we talk to. Meanwhile, Aliyev says that he’s OK with whoever can help him get Armenia to sign his so-called “peace treaty”.</p>
<h4 id="questions-4">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What is in this document currently, and is there talk of conceding a corridor through Armenia?</li>
<li>Alyev said that the meeting with Armenia was constructive and that the Azerbaijani side is reviewing the Armenian proposal. What is your assessment about how close the sides are to signing something?</li>
</ul>
<p>Aliyev continues to rant about Ruben Vardanyan, <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3712287.html">calling</a> him a “Russian citizen, a criminal, and oligarch”. Interesting words coming from someone who is at the center of a new scandal every year, that gets published by international anti-corruption watchdogs. Aliyev said that Azerbaijan will negotiate with Armenians in Karabakh if and only if Ruben Vardanyan leaves.</p>
<h4 id="questions-5">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What is the reason for Aliyev’s fixation with Ruben Vardanyan?</li>
<li>Many Pashinyan supporters say that direct negotiations between Baku and Stepanakert is a victory, but realistically speaking are these going to be equal negotiations? For instance, do you think that anything around the status of Artsakh could be under negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="artsakh-negotiations">Artsakh Negotiations</h3>
<p>We are now at Day 71 of the #ArtsakhBlockade, which we’re covering regularly.</p>
<p>Recently National Security Council chairman Armen Grigoryan, in talking about the latest iteration of the so-called “peace agreement” being negotiated between Armenia and Azerbaijan leaked that the Armenian draft “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1104121.html">Could Mention Nagorno Karabakh</a>”.</p>
<p>A couple of days from now, on Feb. 22nd, the International Court of Justice is expected to yield a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1104419.html">decision</a> to Armenia’s request for temporary measures against Azerbaijan, to open the Lachin/Berdzor corridor. On the same day it is also expected to release their decision about Azerbaijan’s complaint.</p>
<h4 id="questions-6">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What can be expected of this? Is the scheduling of the decisions on the same day a bad omen about European both-sidism?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - About all the commemorations that the Armenian Government denies its people.</li>
<li><strong>Anna</strong> - About Armenia&rsquo;s readiness for a major earthquake. And about upcoming <a href="https://erablur.am">Erablur.am</a> website.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/226/thumbnail-226.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/226/thumbnail-226.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12295856-35th-anniversary-of-karabakh-movement-russia-warns-the-eu-and-armenia-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations-ep-226-feb-19-2023.mp3" length="33481783" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2787</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 225, Feb 17, 2023
[EP225]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/225-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230217/</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12276462-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-17-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>225</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 225, Feb 17, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 9, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 225, Feb 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Gas & Electricity up downs
* On the Food Stamp program
* Why are schools reopening?
* Deprivation from education
* Gev loses power
* The pain of the blockade is real
Episode 225 | Recorded: February 17, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 225, Feb 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Gas & Electricity up downs
* On the Food Stamp program
* Why are schools reopening?
* Deprivation from education
* Gev loses power
* The pain of the blockade is real
Episode 225 | Recorded: February 17, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 225, Feb 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Latest Gas & Electricity up downs
* On the Food Stamp program
* Why are schools reopening?
* Deprivation from education
* Gev loses power
* The pain of the blockade is real
Episode 225 | Recorded: February 17, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/225/thumbnail-225.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/225/thumbnail-225.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12276462-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-17-2023.mp3" length="5037825" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>416</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Earthquake in Turkey and Syria | Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict | Lavrov Interview | EU and CSTO Missions | Shifting Public Perceptions | Yerevan Political Shuffle | Ep 224 - Feb 12, 2023
[EP224]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/224-benyamin-poghosyan-turkey-syria-earthquake-armenia-azerbaijan-lavrov-interview-eu-mission-csto-public-perceptions-yerevan-politics/</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12240335-earthquake-in-turkey-and-syria-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-lavrov-interview-eu-and-csto-missions-shifting-public-perceptions-political-shuffles-in-yerevan-ep-224-feb-12-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>224</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Earthquake in Turkey and Syria | Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict | Lavrov Interview | EU and CSTO Missions | Shifting Public Perceptions | Yerevan Political Shuffle | Ep 224 - Feb 12, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Earthquake in Turkey and Syria
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
* FM Lavrov’s Interview to Russian Media
* EU vs CSTO Missions
* Shifting Public Perceptions
* Political Shuffles in Yerevan
Episode 224 | Recorded: February 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Earthquake in Turkey and Syria
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
* FM Lavrov’s Interview to Russian Media
* EU vs CSTO Missions
* Shifting Public Perceptions
* Political Shuffles in Yerevan
Episode 224 | Recorded: February 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Earthquake in Turkey and Syria
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
* FM Lavrov’s Interview to Russian Media
* EU vs CSTO Missions
* Shifting Public Perceptions
* Political Shuffles in Yerevan
Episode 224 | Recorded: February 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="earthquake-in-turkey-and-syria">Earthquake in Turkey and Syria</h2>
<p>On Monday, a magnitude 7.8 <a href="https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/turkey-syria-earthquake-updates-2-8-23-intl/index.html">earthquake</a> hit the Marash region of Turkey. This is the northeast of historic Armenian Cilicia. The quake also shot straight down to Syria where it was felt as a 7.5, in the regions of Idlib and Aleppo, and was also felt very powerfully all the way down in Beirut, Lebanon. The deaths now exceed 29,000, over 6,000 buildings are estimated to have collapsed, and the western sanctions on Syria were a major obstacle to sending immediate aid to help those in need in that country, although on Thursday the US signed a special blanket clearance for all earthquake-related humanitarian aid to Syria for the next 6 months. Turkish early response was slow, although international response was swift, and a reported over 160,000 rescue workers were in the affected regions of Turkey, helping the hundreds of thousands in need.</p>
<p>Armenia has also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103623.html">dispatched</a> rescuers to both Syria and Turkey. The 27-member team in Turkey is <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103700.html">working</a> in the Adiyaman region. The 29-member team to Syria  <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103641.html">is in Aleppo</a>, where many Armenian deaths have been reported. Armenia also sent over <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121782">30 tons</a> of food supplies to Syria.</p>
<p>Some, in Armenia, have criticized Armenia’s efforts. Deputy speaker of parliament Hakob Arshakyan <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121782">hit back</a> at them for this, and deputy speaker Ruben Rubinyan <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121929">explained</a> his take as well.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>How can we explain the argument?</li>
<li>Does this event affects the math for the elections in May, for Erdogan? How?</li>
<li>Does this event change the balance of interdependency between Russia and Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---azerbaijan-conflict">Armenia - Azerbaijan Conflict</h2>
<h3 id="lavrov-on-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict">Lavrov on Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict</h3>
<p>On February 2 Russian FM Sergey Lavrov gave an interview to Russian TV 24. He <a href="https://jam-news.net/interview-with-sergey-lavrov/">discussed</a> issues ranging from the Russia-West conflict, the war in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, as well as the ongoing conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Glaringly, Lavrov stated that since the government of Armenia had decided to formalize a peace treaty based on the 1991 Alma-Ata principles, then the Armenia-Azerbaijan border would run essentially along the border of the two former Soviet republics; he said that left Artsakh, Nagorno-Karabakh inside Azerbaijan, and also asserted that in 2020 Armenia lost 7 regions back to Azerbaijan, which it had occupied for 30 years.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Some, even opposition leaning analysts, have accused Russia of crossing red lines in the Armenian-Russian relationship. Would you agree with that? And what are the repercussions of this perspective by Russia, on the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-monitors">EU Monitors</h3>
<p>Well, the EU monitors are here, we hear. A lot of questions remain about their mission, given that 2 months since the end of 2022, they have filed no public reports.</p>
<p>In justifying the rejection of a monitoring mission from the CSTO in lieu of a similar mission from the EU, Armenian authorities claimed that the CSTO has not made a political statement about Azerbaijan’s incursion into Armenian territory.</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>As we know, Armenia has agreed to an expanded EU mission to the borders. Has the EU satisfied the same Armenian conditions that the CSTO has not?</li>
</ul>
<p>Nikol Pashinyan made startling comments in the parliament on Wednesday, saying that EU officials are looking at Armenia with suspicion because Azerbaijan is spreading propaganda that Russia and Armenia are planning to attack it. Pashinyan claimed that this is one of the chief reasons the EU agreed to send monitors, to verify and ensure that Russia is not planning to attack Azerbaijan.</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>This is a bombshell announcement. Isn’t Pashinyan hurling Armenia into a confrontation between EU and Russia? The Russians have vocally expressed suspicion and unease with the EU monitors and it seems that now Pashinyan is validating Russian fears that the EU is here primarily to keep tabs on Russians, including the 102nd base in Gyumri, and NOT to deter Azerbaijan from attacking.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="mpg-poll-on-geopolitical-views">MPG Poll on Geopolitical Views</h3>
<p>Late in January <strong>MPG</strong> polled 1100 residents of Armenia during January 2023, for their views on the ongoing conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the aftermath of the 2020 44-day war. It shows an evolving view of Russia amongst the public.</p>
<h4 id="key-questions-asked-by-the-mpg-poll">Key Questions asked by the MPG Poll</h4>
<ul>
<li>Whom do they hold most responsible for the Lachin/Berdzor Corridor crisis (Artsakh Blockade)?</li>
<li>Which countries are doing the most to help, and which are doing the most to exacerbate the crisis?</li>
<li>Which country is the most responsible to fix the situation?</li>
<li>Assessing the response of the government, and the opposition.</li>
<li>In which direction should Armenia’s foreign policy vector lean?</li>
<li>Is it OK to leave Artsakh-Armenians in Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>From which countries can Armenia expect strategic support?</li>
<li>Assess the role of the Russian peacekeepers? The 102nd Military Base?</li>
<li>Reaction to Pashinyan declining CSTO military exercises in Armenia in 2023?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="is-it-ok-to-leave-artsakh-armenians-in-azerbaijan">Is it OK to leave Artsakh-Armenians in Azerbaijan?</h4>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/224/mpg-slide-is-it-ok-to-leave-artsakh-armenians-in-azerbaijan.png" alt="Is it OK to leave Artsakh-Armenians in Azerbaijan?"  title="Is it OK to leave Artsakh-Armenians in Azerbaijan?" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<h2 id="political-shuffles-in-yerevan">Political Shuffles in Yerevan</h2>
<p>The year 2023 began with a number of resignations and new appointments in Yerevan politics. Here is an incomplete list of some of the resignations:</p>
<h3 id="christine-grigoryan-resigned-from-the-hr-ombuds-position">Christine Grigoryan resigned from the HR ombuds position</h3>
<p>In her statement, Grigoryan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102330.html">said</a> she was headed for a new position, but did not say what that position would be. She is rumored to be headed to the Supreme Judicial Council (SJC), which oversees judges in Armenia. This is a controversial body long slammed by Armenian and international NGOs as compromising the independence of the Armenian judicial system.</p>
<p>Grigoryan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32235709.html">resigned</a> on January 23, 365 days after she was appointed as Armenia’s HR ombudswoman. While the law requires the government to nominate a new candidate within 10 days, no names have been put forward yet, and no reasons were given for the breach of law by parliament.</p>
<p>Tatevik Simonyan’s name has come up as a possible candidate. She’s currently a deputy minister of labor and social affairs. (Hovik: clothing shop manager for 16 years?)</p>
<h3 id="eduard-aghajanyan-resigns-from-parliament">Eduard Aghajanyan Resigns from Parliament</h3>
<p>Aghajanyan has been an important ally of Pashinyan since the founding days of Civil Contract. In October he was not re-elected to the governing body of the ruling party, and on January 27th he <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32254499.html">tendered his resignation</a>.</p>
<p>Civil Contract MP <a href="http://www.parliament.am/deputies.php?sel=details&amp;ID=1364&amp;lang=eng">Sargis Khandanyan</a> was confirmed by a strictly <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1103760.html">party-line vote</a> to replace Aghajanyan as the chair of the Foreign Relations Committee in parliament.</p>
<h3 id="shirak-governor-shuffle">Shirak Governor Shuffle</h3>
<p>On January 25 governor of Shirak Marz Nazeli Baghdasaryan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102555.html">resigned</a>. The next day, Mushegh Muradyan was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102576.html">appointed</a> as new governor of Shirak.</p>
<h3 id="debacle-in-education">Debacle in Education</h3>
<p>In December, Deputy Prime Minister Hambardzum Matevosian and Education Minister Vahram Dumanian were <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32173234.html">sacked</a>, after they failed to secure the election of the government’s desired candidate as the new president of Brusov State university.</p>
<p>The government wanted Davit Gyurjinyan, but government critic Karine Harutyunyan was re-elected, 12-8, despite half of the voting board members being ruling party appointees.</p>
<p>Dumanyan was replaced by one of his deputies, Zhanna Andreasyan.</p>
<p>Matevosyan was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32183251.html">replaced</a> by Tigran Khachatryan.</p>
<h3 id="other-recent-changes">Other Recent Changes</h3>
<ul>
<li>Deputy Minister of Economy, <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121559">Armen Arzumanyan</a></li>
<li>Deputy Chief Enforcement Officer, <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121678">Artur Harutyunyan</a>.</li>
<li>Deputy Chief Enforcement Officer, <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121108">Artur Vardanyan</a>.</li>
<li>Deputy Chief of General Staff, <a href="https://168.am/2023/01/26/1824280.html">Arakel Martikyan</a>.</li>
<li>New Deputy Chief of the General Staff, <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121066">Samvel Movsisyan</a></li>
<li>Advisor to the DM, Major-General <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/121896">Vardan Avetisyan</a>.</li>
<li>And more…</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Benyamin - Increased Russian diplomatic activity in Armenia</li>
<li>Hovik - Armenian Government Stonewalling Armenian Media
<ol>
<li>Maps released in the <a href="https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan/status/1621224944834158593">Hague</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/224/thumbnail-224.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/224/thumbnail-224.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12240335-earthquake-in-turkey-and-syria-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-lavrov-interview-eu-and-csto-missions-shifting-public-perceptions-political-shuffles-in-yerevan-ep-224-feb-12-2023.mp3" length="42985693" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3579</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 223, Feb 9, 2023
[EP223]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/223-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230209/</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12222344-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-9-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>223</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 223, Feb 9, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 9, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 223, Feb 9, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 9, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Snowy and cold weather sets in
* Azerbaijan Switches off Gas again
* Shifting Electricity Blackout Strategy
* 25 Tons of Russian Aid Reach Stepanakert
* Negotiations and Negotiators Continue
* Redlines for Artsakh
* Arayik Harutyunyan talks with Gagik Tsarukyan
* Do not Take this Blockade Lightly!
* Treasonous Mindsets in Armenian Government
* Who Will They Fight For?
Episode 223 | Recorded: February 9, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 223, Feb 9, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 9, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Snowy and cold weather sets in
* Azerbaijan Switches off Gas again
* Shifting Electricity Blackout Strategy
* 25 Tons of Russian Aid Reach Stepanakert
* Negotiations and Negotiators Continue
* Redlines for Artsakh
* Arayik Harutyunyan talks with Gagik Tsarukyan
* Do not Take this Blockade Lightly!
* Treasonous Mindsets in Armenian Government
* Who Will They Fight For?
Episode 223 | Recorded: February 9, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 223, Feb 9, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 9, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Snowy and cold weather sets in
* Azerbaijan Switches off Gas again
* Shifting Electricity Blackout Strategy
* 25 Tons of Russian Aid Reach Stepanakert
* Negotiations and Negotiators Continue
* Redlines for Artsakh
* Arayik Harutyunyan talks with Gagik Tsarukyan
* Do not Take this Blockade Lightly!
* Treasonous Mindsets in Armenian Government
* Who Will They Fight For?
Episode 223 | Recorded: February 9, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP222]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/222-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230207/</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12206037-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-7-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>222</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 222, Feb 7, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 7, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 222, Feb 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 7
* Unreliable Gas Supply
* Adam Schiff [invites](https://asbarez.com/i-will-always-stand-with-the-people-of-armenia-and-artsakh-says-schiff-and-thanks-artsakh-rep-to-u-s/) Robert Avetisyan to the State of the Union
* Artsakh on the mind if the US Legislative Branch
Episode 222 | Recorded: February 7, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 222, Feb 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 7
* Unreliable Gas Supply
* Adam Schiff [invites](https://asbarez.com/i-will-always-stand-with-the-people-of-armenia-and-artsakh-says-schiff-and-thanks-artsakh-rep-to-u-s/) Robert Avetisyan to the State of the Union
* Artsakh on the mind if the US Legislative Branch
Episode 222 | Recorded: February 7, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 222, Feb 7, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 7, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 7
* Unreliable Gas Supply
* Adam Schiff [invites](https://asbarez.com/i-will-always-stand-with-the-people-of-armenia-and-artsakh-says-schiff-and-thanks-artsakh-rep-to-u-s/) Robert Avetisyan to the State of the Union
* Artsakh on the mind if the US Legislative Branch
Episode 222 | Recorded: February 7, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/222/thumbnail-222.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/222/thumbnail-222.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12206037-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-7-2023.mp3" length="3286470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>270</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 221, Feb 4, 2023
[EP221]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/221-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230204/</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12185213-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-4-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>221</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 221, Feb 4, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 4, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 221, Feb 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 4
* Blackouts at 6 hours per day
* Gas mostly ok for 5-6 days
* Food Stamp & Rationing System working OK
* Azerbaijan Curating Profile of Azeri Activists
* More professional, curated, Organized
* Hand-picked journalists
* Protests as a Show
Episode 221 | Recorded: February 4, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 221, Feb 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 4
* Blackouts at 6 hours per day
* Gas mostly ok for 5-6 days
* Food Stamp & Rationing System working OK
* Azerbaijan Curating Profile of Azeri Activists
* More professional, curated, Organized
* Hand-picked journalists
* Protests as a Show
Episode 221 | Recorded: February 4, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 221, Feb 4, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Feb 4, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Update for February 4
* Blackouts at 6 hours per day
* Gas mostly ok for 5-6 days
* Food Stamp & Rationing System working OK
* Azerbaijan Curating Profile of Azeri Activists
* More professional, curated, Organized
* Hand-picked journalists
* Protests as a Show
Episode 221 | Recorded: February 4, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/221/thumbnail-221.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/221/thumbnail-221.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12185213-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-feb-4-2023.mp3" length="6782908" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>561</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 220, Jan 31, 2023
[EP220]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/220-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230131/</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12158080-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-31-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>220</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 220, Jan 31, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 31, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 220, Jan 31, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 31, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Why less than daily updates
* January 31 Update
* Over 183 births since the blockade
* Gas has been on for 2 days now
* Some Service sector workers working again
Episode 220 | Recorded: January 31, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 220, Jan 31, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 31, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Why less than daily updates
* January 31 Update
* Over 183 births since the blockade
* Gas has been on for 2 days now
* Some Service sector workers working again
Episode 220 | Recorded: January 31, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 220, Jan 31, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 31, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Why less than daily updates
* January 31 Update
* Over 183 births since the blockade
* Gas has been on for 2 days now
* Some Service sector workers working again
Episode 220 | Recorded: January 31, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/220/thumbnail-220.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/220/thumbnail-220.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12158080-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-31-2023.mp3" length="4886732" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>403</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur G Martirosyan | Army Day in Armenia | New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia | Politics of Artsakh Blockade | Ep 219 - Jan 29, 2023
[EP219]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/219-arthur-martirosyan-army-day-eu-monitoring-mission-russia-iran-relations-artsakh-blockade/</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12142760-arthur-g-martirosyan-army-day-in-armenia-new-eu-civilian-mission-to-armenia-politics-of-artsakh-blockade-ep-219-jan-29-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>219</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur G Martirosyan | Army Day in Armenia | New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia | Politics of Artsakh Blockade | Ep 219 - Jan 29, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 01/29/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Army Day - January 28
* Events at Yerablur
* New EU Monitoring Mission
* Armenia's Diplomacy
* Russia's Increasing Displeasure
* Iran's Tempered Displeasure
* Artsakh Blockade
Episode 219 | Recorded: January 29, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Army Day - January 28
* Events at Yerablur
* New EU Monitoring Mission
* Armenia's Diplomacy
* Russia's Increasing Displeasure
* Iran's Tempered Displeasure
* Artsakh Blockade
Episode 219 | Recorded: January 29, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Army Day - January 28
* Events at Yerablur
* New EU Monitoring Mission
* Armenia's Diplomacy
* Russia's Increasing Displeasure
* Iran's Tempered Displeasure
* Artsakh Blockade
Episode 219 | Recorded: January 29, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenian-army-day">Armenian Army Day</h2>
<h3 id="january-28---army-day">January 28 - Army Day</h3>
<p>Armenia’s Army Day is on January 28, that was yesterday. First we’d like to thank all those who’ve served, who are serving, and plan to serve, on this important milestone, the 31st anniversary of the Armenian army. Thank you!</p>
<p>The Armenian armed forces are the backbone of the hopes of any successful Armenian state. Let’s just be blunt: there is no future without a strong army.</p>
<h3 id="events-of-the-day">Events of the Day</h3>
<p><a href="https://168.am/2023/01/28/1824948.html">Yesterday</a> hundreds of parents and relatives of fallen soldiers were forcibly removed from Yerablur, by hundreds, by some accounts thousands, of Pashinyan’s red beret police and other guards. This was to secure Pashinyan and some of his ministers to visit the Pantheon of fallen soldiers on Army Day.</p>
<p>As a background note, let me add that there was absolutely zero coverage of these events in government controlled press, such as Armenpress. There were many <a href="https://168.am/2023/01/28/1824914.html">articles</a> in the more independent or opposition-leaning press, like 168.am..</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Impressions from the day?</li>
</ul>
<p>Background notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>3rd January 28 that is in mournful mood:
<ul>
<li>January 2021 - Right after the war.</li>
<li>January 2022 - Ceremony canceled because of “Covid”</li>
<li>January 2023 - Memory of 15 dead soldiers</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32243827.html">speeches</a> on 1/28:
<ul>
<li>«Մենք չպետք է շեղվենք այդ օրակարգից և պետք է հետևողականորեն առաջ մղենք խաղաղության օրակարգը»</li>
<li>«We cannot deviate from that agenda and need to consistently push forth the agenda of “peace”»</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Sasun Mikaeliyan, one of the Civil Contract members and head of the Yerkrapah organization said that after Vazgen Sargsyan, we have not had any army building.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="azat-incident-no-political-accountability">Azat incident: No Political Accountability</h3>
<p>In the aftermath of the horrible fire in the military barrack in Gegharkunik, people are feeling demoralized and are full of apprehension towards the government and how it is treating the armed forces.</p>
<p>It’s been additionally demoralizing to know that the government has written off the possibility of any political accountability for this incident by Pashinyan’s government. Meanwhile Pashinyan has been pushing for an incident narrative that he himself conceived of, before any investigation was even launched.</p>
<p>The government made an <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32241059.html">arrest</a> this week. A deputy commander of “the base” who was in charge of supplies and accommodations was charged with failing to provide fire safety equipment.</p>
<p>So far there is every indication that the government plans on railroading its own narrative on this horrible accident, and shovel everything under the rug.</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this terrible event, 10 days after the death of 15 soldiers?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="new-eu-monitoring-mission">New EU Monitoring Mission</h2>
<p>On Monday, the EU <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32235932.html">approved</a> an expanded, civilian monitoring mission to the borders of Armenia. The mission was originally for 200 monitors and for 2 years, but that was reduced to 100 monitors at least for now.</p>
<p>We should note that these monitors are sent to Armenia, near the current line of contact between Armenia and Azerbaijan. As Azerbaijan has invaded sovereign Armenian territory, yet they also claim that none of their forces are on what they consider Armenian territory, and they have not approved of the EU monitors to be on the de-facto or de-jure borders between the countries.</p>
<p>The Armenian government has decided to station the EU monitors along the entire length of the Armenian-Azerbaijani border (including <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1dNpwNu3X4">Nakhijevan</a>).</p>
<h3 id="what-is-armenia-doing">What is Armenia doing?</h3>
<p>The Armenian government has received the news very enthusiastically. Foreign Minister Mirzoyan said that the mission will contribute to peace and stability in the region.</p>
<p>Since May 2021, Armenia has asked CSTO to give a declaration on Azerbaijani behavior, but the CSTO has refused to get involved. The offer of sending CSTO monitors to Armenia was rejected by Armenia based on the grounds that the CSTO would not identify Azerbaijan as an aggressor country. Some individual EU countries on the other hand (e.g. France) have called Azerbaijan an aggressor.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Are the official grounds for rejecting the CSTO monitors legitimate, or sufficient reason for the political row between Armenia and the CSTO?
<ul>
<li>So what if France has called Azerbaijan an aggressor? Outside of a statement, or declaration, what difference does it make on the ground?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Thinking of some scenarios, suppose Azerbaijan attacks, what will the unarmed EU monitors do? Could this help expedite EU sanctions? Would sanctions even mean anything for Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>What advantages do you see for Armenia, political or otherwise, in accepting the EU mission, over the CSTO mission?
<ul>
<li>Will 100 unarmed, civilian monitors along 1,000 kms of border give the EU any sort of advantage in the region?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="what-is-the-eu-doing">What is the EU doing?</h3>
<p>Various EU leaders, including the leader of the French National Assembly recently said that the EU cannot provide a security umbrella to Armenia.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>But if this monitoring mission carries the risk of alienating Armenia’s strategic ally Russia, one who has an agreement with Armenia and actually has boots on the ground and is nuclear armed, then are the Armenian authorities thinking clearly about their next steps?</li>
<li>Is it possible that Armenia could end up in a situation in which it gets the worst of both worlds, no nuclear umbrella, no Russian base, and no external power (other than Turkey) which would be willing to commit forces to Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russias-increasing-displeasure">Russia’s Increasing Displeasure</h3>
<p>The Russian side has been vehemently, unequivocally negative about this mission. The latest statement came from the Russian MFA who <a href="https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1618955637244977152">quoted</a> Zakharova:</p>
<pre><code>_“The EU’s attempts to gain a foothold in Armenia at any cost and sideline Russia’s mediation efforts may hurt the interests of people in Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan in their pursuit of peaceful development. Russian peacekeepers remain a key factor of regional stability.”_
</code></pre>
<h4 id="questions-2">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>The language is still diplomatic, but clearly Russia doesn’t like it. Why is Russia furious about this move? What do they stand to lose?</li>
<li>How would you decipher the statement above, specifically the mention of Peace Keepers? Do you think that Russia is signaling that they may withdraw their PKs from Artsakh as punishment? (which has been rumored)</li>
<li>We know there are Russian peacekeepers or border guards already deployed in some areas of the Armenia-Azerbaijan eastern border. Is there a potential for conflict between the unarmed monitors and the Russian border guards (not the PKs).</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="irans-tempered-displeasure">Iran’s Tempered Displeasure</h3>
<p>Iran has also in the past put out veiled statements about foreign forces in the region, but it has been less confrontational than Russia.</p>
<h4 id="questions-3">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>However, as the EU is again imposing sanctions on Iran as well, could Iran’s stance begin shifting about the presence of EU monitors?</li>
<li>What are the reasons why Iran is opposed to western monitors in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-blockade">Artsakh Blockade</h2>
<p>OK, here we are on the 49th day of the blockade, and it looks like it may take a long time. Last weekend we saw Ruben Vardanyan’s interview on BBC Hardtalk, and he was clear as a whistle: nobody’s giving up, nobody’s going anywhere, he and the Armenians of Artsakh are at home.</p>
<h4 id="question-2">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What should Armenia and Armenians do to weather the storm?</li>
</ul>
<p>On Wednesday, Pashinyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32240807.html">warned</a> Artsakh’s leadership again - we’re assuming the target was Ruben Vardanyan - that they should not undermine his “agenda of peace”. Of course, Pashinyan’s peace is selling the Armenians of Artsakh down the river, with very questionable and temporary expectations in return.</p>
<h4 id="questions-4">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What is Artsakh’s government doing, or saying, that is causing Pashinyan concern?</li>
<li>What could be said, or done, and with what consequences?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Arthur - Concern and actions towards the safety of Artsakh Armenians</li>
<li>Hovik - Fight apathy towards the plight of Artsakh</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/219/thumbnail-219.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/219/thumbnail-219.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12142760-arthur-g-martirosyan-army-day-in-armenia-new-eu-civilian-mission-to-armenia-politics-of-artsakh-blockade-ep-219-jan-29-2023.mp3" length="34463388" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2868</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 218, Jan 27, 2023
[EP218]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/218-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230127/</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12133604-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-27-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>218</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 218, Jan 27, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 27, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 218, Jan 27, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 27, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
* [Hagop Ipdjian](/guest/hipdjian)
#### Topics:
* January 27 Update
* Reportedly Gas turned back on
* Blaclouts continue
* Hagop Ipdjian in Artsakh
* [Artsakh Support Body](https://www.facebook.com/artsakhsupport/) [Fund through reArmenia](https://rearmenia.com/hy/fundraisers/2048d56e-3366-4b18-8d1e-4f1f014233db?tab=story)
* [ReArmenia Projects](https://rearmenia.com/)
* [Lorik Humanitarian Fund](https://www.facebook.com/LorikFund/)
* [ARS](https://ars1910.org) - [Armenian Relief Society](https://www.facebook.com/ars1910)
* How to get Involved
Episode 218 | Recorded: January 27, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 218, Jan 27, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 27, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
* [Hagop Ipdjian](/guest/hipdjian)
#### Topics:
* January 27 Update
* Reportedly Gas turned back on
* Blaclouts continue
* Hagop Ipdjian in Artsakh
* [Artsakh Support Body](https://www.facebook.com/artsakhsupport/) [Fund through reArmenia](https://rearmenia.com/hy/fundraisers/2048d56e-3366-4b18-8d1e-4f1f014233db?tab=story)
* [ReArmenia Projects](https://rearmenia.com/)
* [Lorik Humanitarian Fund](https://www.facebook.com/LorikFund/)
* [ARS](https://ars1910.org) - [Armenian Relief Society](https://www.facebook.com/ars1910)
* How to get Involved
Episode 218 | Recorded: January 27, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 218, Jan 27, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 27, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
* [Hagop Ipdjian](/guest/hipdjian)
#### Topics:
* January 27 Update
* Reportedly Gas turned back on
* Blaclouts continue
* Hagop Ipdjian in Artsakh
* [Artsakh Support Body](https://www.facebook.com/artsakhsupport/) [Fund through reArmenia](https://rearmenia.com/hy/fundraisers/2048d56e-3366-4b18-8d1e-4f1f014233db?tab=story)
* [ReArmenia Projects](https://rearmenia.com/)
* [Lorik Humanitarian Fund](https://www.facebook.com/LorikFund/)
* [ARS](https://ars1910.org) - [Armenian Relief Society](https://www.facebook.com/ars1910)
* How to get Involved
Episode 218 | Recorded: January 27, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/218/thumbnail-218.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/218/thumbnail-218.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12133604-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-27-2023.mp3" length="6461161" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>534</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tevan Poghosyan | Catastrophic Accident in Military Barrack | New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia | Armenia-Russia Relations | Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk | Ep 217 - Jan 22, 2023
[EP217]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/217-tevan-poghosyan-fire-inmilitary-barracks-kills-15-new-eu-monitoring-mission-russia-relations-ruben-vardanyan-on-bbc-hardtalk/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12115148-tevan-poghosyan-catastrophic-accident-in-military-barrack-new-eu-civilian-mission-to-armenia-armenia-russia-relations-ruben-vardanyan-on-bbc-hardtalk-ep-217-jan-22-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>217</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan | Catastrophic Accident in Military Barrack | New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia | Armenia-Russia Relations | Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk | Ep 217 - Jan 22, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 01/22/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Accident in Military Barrack
* New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia
* Armenia-Russia Relations
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
Episode 217 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Accident in Military Barrack
* New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia
* Armenia-Russia Relations
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
Episode 217 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Catastrophic Accident in Military Barrack
* New EU Civilian Mission to Armenia
* Armenia-Russia Relations
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
Episode 217 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="catastrophic-accident-kills-15-soldiers">Catastrophic Accident Kills 15 Soldiers</h2>
<h3 id="what-happened">What happened</h3>
<p>Some time between 00:30 and 1:00 am on January 19th <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102148.html">a fire broke out</a> in the military barracks housing a company of sappers in the Armenian Army, in Gegharkunik province. The fire quickly spread and as a result <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/2019574104975338/">15 men</a> died, and 3 who escaped were severely injured.</p>
<p>Let’s discuss the social and political aspects. What this event means for the Pashinyan government, and also how the Armenian population is dealing with this loss.</p>
<h3 id="theories">Theories</h3>
<p>The first theories came from Pashinyan and defense minister Suren Papkiyan in the morning of the 19th. Investigations had barely started, let alone completed yet.</p>
<p>The main theory provided by the government is that the captain of the company set his hands on fire as he poured  gasoline from a 5-liter canister into the heater. He dropped the canister, setting the barracks on fire. The door got jammed, preventing people from fleeing.</p>
<p>The government, including representatives of the investigative committee say that there are other theories also being investigated, yet, for some reason this gasoline theory is being broadcasted loudly before the investigation is complete.</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Does this main working theory sound plausible to you? Why announce about it confidently if the investigation is still ongoing?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="aftermath">Aftermath</h3>
<p>Almost the entire leadership of the 2nd Corps was removed by the time we heard the news.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Was this a good idea?</li>
<li>Why is there no official list of the casualties?</li>
<li>Why is there no public mourning or commemoration?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-unarmed-monitors-to-armenia">EU Unarmed Monitors to Armenia</h2>
<p>The EU Council yesterday, January 23, approved a new mission to Armenia. The new mission will be for 2 years and will include 100 unarmed monitors.</p>
<h3 id="what-is-the-eu-doing-in-armenia">What is the EU doing in Armenia?</h3>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What is the purpose of this missing?</li>
<li>We haven’t seen any public reports from the previous 2 month temporary mission that included 40 people, despite a number of violations. How do we measure the success of such a mission without any metrics?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="russian-response">Russian Response</h3>
<p>New EU monitoring mission to come to Armenia. Lavrov expressed caution about this, saying that if Azerbaijan is against this mission, then it may create problems.</p>
<ul>
<li>How could the EUMM mission may affect Armenia’s relations with Iran and Russia.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenia---russia-relations">Armenia - Russia relations</h2>
<h3 id="lavrovzakharova-statements">Lavrov/Zakharova statements</h3>
<p>Both Lavrov and Zakharova have recently dropped hints in their public statements that the Armenian side is not being honest with its public about previously made agreements.</p>
<p>For instance, Zakharova, in a Q/A session on January 12, <a href="https://youtu.be/SjsaEOMg7SA">said</a> that there are “principled positions, not tactical, not even strategic, but a matter of principles” about which the Armenian side should be honest about. Zakharova further expanded that “&hellip; there are agreements, that people either observe or if they don’t observe them, then they need to say that approaches have changed. This needs to be discussed honestly and publicly with one’s own people.”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.aravot.am/2023/01/21/1318323/">Certain</a> <a href="https://www.panorama.am/ru/news/2023/01/20/%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82-%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA-%D0%A8%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BD-%D0%90%D1%80%D1%86%D0%B0%D1%85/2783852">analysts </a>have interpreted this to be a reference to yet undisclosed verbal agreements by Pashinyan from Nov 9/10.</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What agreements is the Russian side referring to?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="vahagn-khachaturyan-in-estonia">Vahagn Khachaturyan in Estonia</h3>
<p>Armenia president Vahagn Khachaturyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101771.html">visited</a> Estonia and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6a4Qc3WIk">said </a>something like: Estonia as a small country is in NATO and they’re able to gain protection from the alliances with Russia and CSTO. He further complained that Armenia has not been able to get help from its military allies adding an ominous note that “nothing stays the same forever and throughout time, there always is a necessity to change something”</p>
<h4 id="question-2">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What was Khachaturyan alluding to? Is this a further confirmation that current leadership intends to part ways with Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ruben-vardanyan-on-bbc-hardtalk">Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk</h2>
<p>Artsakh State Minister Ruben Vardanyan was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1102335.html">interviewed</a> by Stephen Sackur on BBC’s Hardtalk show.</p>
<h4 id="question-3">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What was your overall impression of the conversation?</li>
</ul>
<p>Sackur was clearly fishing for pro-Western declarations on the part of Vardanyan, but Vardanyan didn’t get drawn into commenting on conflicts that are completely out of scope and interest for an embattled leader in a small country in deep crisis.</p>
<p>Sackur tried to fish for anti-Putin comments in the context of Ukraine, and in the lack of support Russia has provided for Armenia, and so on.</p>
<h4 id="questions-2">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What did you think of Vardanyan’s responses to Sackur?</li>
<li>What was Sackur fishing for?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/217/thumbnail-217.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/217/thumbnail-217.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12115148-tevan-poghosyan-catastrophic-accident-in-military-barrack-new-eu-civilian-mission-to-armenia-armenia-russia-relations-ruben-vardanyan-on-bbc-hardtalk-ep-217-jan-22-2023.mp3" length="33598026" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2797</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 216, Jan 24, 2023
[EP216]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/216-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230124/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12112746-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-24-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>216</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 216, Jan 24, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 24, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 216, Jan 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* January 24 Update
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
* Importance of not normalizing tragedy
Episode 216 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 216, Jan 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* January 24 Update
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
* Importance of not normalizing tragedy
Episode 216 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 216, Jan 24, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 24, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* January 24 Update
* Ruben Vardanyan on BBC HARDtalk
* Importance of not normalizing tragedy
Episode 216 | Recorded: January 24, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/216/thumbnail-216.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/216/thumbnail-216.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12112746-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-24-2023.mp3" length="7005152" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>580</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Karen Vrtanesyan: Catastrophe in Azat
[EP214]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/214-karen-vrtanesyan-catastrophe-in-azat/</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2023 06:41:21 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12097481-karen-vrtanesyan-catastrophe-in-azat-ep-214-january-22-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>214</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Karen Vrtanesyan: Catastrophe in Azat</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
On January 19, 15 conscripts in the village of Azat, Armenia died in a fire that engulfed their temporary makeshift barracks.
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
- Conditions in the Armenian Army
- Information chaos following the incident
- Beheading of the 2nd Army Corps
Episode 214 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
On January 19, 15 conscripts in the village of Azat, Armenia died in a fire that engulfed their temporary makeshift barracks.
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
- Conditions in the Armenian Army
- Information chaos following the incident
- Beheading of the 2nd Army Corps
Episode 214 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
Conversations on Groong - Jan 22, 2023
On January 19, 15 conscripts in the village of Azat, Armenia died in a fire that engulfed their temporary makeshift barracks.
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
#### Topics:
- Conditions in the Armenian Army
- Information chaos following the incident
- Beheading of the 2nd Army Corps
Episode 214 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time between 00:30 and 1:00 am on January 19th a fire broke out in a temporary military barracks housing a company of sappers in the Armenian Army, in Gegharkunik province. The fire quickly spread and as a result 15 men died, and 3 who escaped were severely injured.
Our condolences to the families and loved ones and to the entire Armenian nation on this tragic loss.</p>
<h2 id="references-made-during-the-show">References Made During The Show</h2>
<ul>
<li>Terms used:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood">Firehose of falsehood</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/reprints/RP844.html">Coup proofing</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Books:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60034860-the-revenge-of-power">The Revenge of Power: How Autocrats Are Reinventing Politics for the 21st Century</a> by Moisés Naím</li>
<li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/58885955-spin-dictators">Spin Dictators: The Changing Face of Tyranny in the 21st Century</a> by Sergei Guriev, Daniel Treisman</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="catastrophe-in-azat-gegharkunik">Catastrophe in Azat, Gegharkunik</h3>
<p>The images released to the media show a shabby house in the Azat village, not what you’d expect for a military barracks. Various government representatives later explained that this house, which had one entrance and the windows had metal bars on them, was temporary and started being used as a barracks either after 2020, 2021 or September 2022 depending on whose account you want to trust.</p>
<p>That same morning, at the sitting of the government, Pashinyan, while admitting that the investigation is still ongoing, went ahead to confidently present the government’s official theory of how it happened. He said that the ranking officer of the unit had attempted to start the fire in the furnace using a 5L plastic canister of gasoline, which caught fire, causing the officer to instinctively throw the burning canister away from him and the entire room caught fire. Fifteen conscripts died and there were 3 survivors, including the captain of the unit, the one who allegedly started the fire.</p>
<h3 id="conditions-in-the-army">Conditions in the Army</h3>
<p>Many are shocked seeing the footage from the destroyed structure. Everything from the structure itself, to the lack of an emergency exit, lack of fire extinguishers or a fire suppression system, safety protocols, everything seems to be absent, the whole structure is completely dilapidated.</p>
<p>This was not a barracks, it was a hut!!</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this indicative of how other Armenian soldiers spend their service? Are there no standards?</li>
</ul>
<p>Karen, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/vkristinne/posts/pfbid0MXUgtF7iWRvwcpsUDLAHD71JQ6M7sqkDWofPE6WgT2ZF57j7qFLuatD34pF64xGMl">according to opposition MPs</a>, the 2022 defense budget was not fulfilled by 54%.</p>
<ul>
<li>First, is this an accurate number based on your own information?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="information-chaos">Information Chaos</h3>
<p>Karen, I know you frequently research how governments communicate and you have been vocal in the past that the Pashinyan administration is a master in shaping public debate through its communications.</p>
<p>We have two strange facts to bring up:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>First fact</strong>: Pashinyan, very early on, presented a version of what happened, appearing to blame the event on a military officer who didn’t follow safety protocol and used gasoline to light fire. However, Pashinyan himself admitted that this is preliminary and there are other theories being investigated. A representative from the investigative committee also said on public TV that they are working on excluding other theories.</li>
<li><strong>Second fact</strong>: Authorities at different times presented three different time frames as to when the house began to be used as barracks. Pashinyan said 2021. The investigative committee in its report said 2021, and Edmon Marukyan said that the village house started being used after the main barracks of this unit was taken over by Azerbaijan as a result of the September 2022 war.</li>
</ul>
<p>Question:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you assess the public communications work of the government in relation to this tragedy?</li>
</ul>
<p>Edmon Marukyan, who has the title of “Special Ambassador At Large”, went on public TV to say that the Armenian Army was in the process of procuring brand-new Italian made, prefabricated military cabins. The reason they were not here yet? He said it was because they opted to buy brand new ones, instead of used ones that had already been used in Afghanistan.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Marukyan even speaking about this?</li>
<li>Does Armenia produce such huts? Why procure them externally?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="decapitation-of-the-2nd-corps-or-facing-responsibility">Decapitation of the 2nd Corps or Facing Responsibility?</h3>
<p>At the government session, Immediately hours after the fire, Pashinyan and Papikyan announced the firing of at least 8 officers, up to and including the commander of the 2nd Army Corps. Critics claim that this effectively beheads the entire leadership chain of the 2nd Army Corps.</p>
<p>At the same time, many people were calling for political responsibility, but no political leaders were sacked or punished.</p>
<ul>
<li>We realize this is a sensitive topic and of course there is huge public pressure to act promptly, but can you say if this change debilitates the army 2nd corps?
<ul>
<li>If so, does it make sense to debilitate the army in such a disruptive, political move?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What do you think about General <a href="https://www.civilnet.am/news/689412/%D5%A3%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A5%D5%A3%D5%AB%D5%B6-%D5%BA%D5%B8%D5%B2%D5%B8%D5%BD%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A8-%D5%B6%D5%B7%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%BE%D5%A5%D5%AC-%D5%A7-2-%D6%80%D5%A4-%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6-%D5%AF%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%BA%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%BD%D5%AB-%D5%B0%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A1%D6%80">Garegin Petrosyan</a>, the new commander of the 2nd Corps?</li>
<li>What do you think of the sacked commander, Major-General Vahram Grigoryan?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/214/thumbnail-214.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/214/thumbnail-214.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12097481-karen-vrtanesyan-catastrophe-in-azat-ep-214-january-22-2023.mp3" length="22157673" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1843</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 215, Jan 22, 2023
[EP215]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/215-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230122/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12098747-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-22-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>215</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 215, Jan 22, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 20, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 215, Jan 22, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 22, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff AGAIN
* Azerbaijan’s Psychological and Political Games
* Effect on the Electricity Grid
* Pattern of Increasing Blackouts
* Impressions from Askeran Region
* Urban vs Rural Aspects of the Blockade
* Risk of Normalizing the Pain of Artsakh
* MP Metaxe Hakobyan’s concerns
Episode 215 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 215, Jan 22, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 22, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff AGAIN
* Azerbaijan’s Psychological and Political Games
* Effect on the Electricity Grid
* Pattern of Increasing Blackouts
* Impressions from Askeran Region
* Urban vs Rural Aspects of the Blockade
* Risk of Normalizing the Pain of Artsakh
* MP Metaxe Hakobyan’s concerns
Episode 215 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 215, Jan 22, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 22, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff AGAIN
* Azerbaijan’s Psychological and Political Games
* Effect on the Electricity Grid
* Pattern of Increasing Blackouts
* Impressions from Askeran Region
* Urban vs Rural Aspects of the Blockade
* Risk of Normalizing the Pain of Artsakh
* MP Metaxe Hakobyan’s concerns
Episode 215 | Recorded: January 22, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/215/thumbnail-215.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/215/thumbnail-215.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12098747-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-22-2023.mp3" length="11285270" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>936</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Metaxe Hakobyan: Blockade of Artsakh Day 41
[EP213]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/213-metaxe-hakobyan-on-artsakh-blockade/</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:00:54 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12091594-metaxe-hakobyan-artsakh-blockade-day-41.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>213</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Metaxe Hakobyan: Blockade of Artsakh Day 41</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 21, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Metaxe Hakobyan: Blockade of Artsakh Day 41 | Ep 213 - Jan 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 21, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Metaxe Hakobyan](/guest/metaxehakobyan): member of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh.
Episode 213 | Recorded: January 21, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Metaxe Hakobyan: Blockade of Artsakh Day 41 | Ep 213 - Jan 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 21, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Metaxe Hakobyan](/guest/metaxehakobyan): member of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh.
Episode 213 | Recorded: January 21, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Metaxe Hakobyan: Blockade of Artsakh Day 41 | Ep 213 - Jan 21, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 21, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Metaxe Hakobyan](/guest/metaxehakobyan): member of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh.
Episode 213 | Recorded: January 21, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/213/thumbnail-213.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/213/thumbnail-213.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12091594-metaxe-hakobyan-artsakh-blockade-day-41.mp3" length="26413255" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2197</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 212, Jan 20, 2023
[EP212]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/212-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230120/</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12087399-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-20-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>212</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 212, Jan 20, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 20, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 212, Jan 20, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 20, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Partially Restored
* Listener Questions
1. Do the people of Artsakh feel abandoned by the ROA
2. Is High Commissioner of Diaspora Office in Artsakh
* International Coverage of Artsakh Blockade
* Lack of Foreign Journalists in Artsakh Currently
* Send us your Listener Questions
Episode 212 | Recorded: January 20, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 212, Jan 20, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 20, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Partially Restored
* Listener Questions
1. Do the people of Artsakh feel abandoned by the ROA
2. Is High Commissioner of Diaspora Office in Artsakh
* International Coverage of Artsakh Blockade
* Lack of Foreign Journalists in Artsakh Currently
* Send us your Listener Questions
Episode 212 | Recorded: January 20, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 212, Jan 20, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 20, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Partially Restored
* Listener Questions
1. Do the people of Artsakh feel abandoned by the ROA
2. Is High Commissioner of Diaspora Office in Artsakh
* International Coverage of Artsakh Blockade
* Lack of Foreign Journalists in Artsakh Currently
* Send us your Listener Questions
Episode 212 | Recorded: January 20, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/212/thumbnail-212.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/212/thumbnail-212.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12087399-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-20-2023.mp3" length="5691028" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>470</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 211, Jan 19, 2023
[EP211]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/211-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230119/</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12081923.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>211</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 211, Jan 19, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 19, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 211, Jan 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Ongoing Gas Cutoff
* Electricity Grid Ooverload
* Effects on the Community
* School Closures
* Bakeries
* Work to Restore Energy
* Tragic accident in Geghargunik military outpost
Episode 211 | Recorded: January 19, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 211, Jan 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Ongoing Gas Cutoff
* Electricity Grid Ooverload
* Effects on the Community
* School Closures
* Bakeries
* Work to Restore Energy
* Tragic accident in Geghargunik military outpost
Episode 211 | Recorded: January 19, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 211, Jan 19, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 19, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Ongoing Gas Cutoff
* Electricity Grid Ooverload
* Effects on the Community
* School Closures
* Bakeries
* Work to Restore Energy
* Tragic accident in Geghargunik military outpost
Episode 211 | Recorded: January 19, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/211/thumbnail-211.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/211/thumbnail-211.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12081923.mp3" length="5323557" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>439</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 210, Jan 18, 2023
[EP210]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/210-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230118/</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12071770-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-18-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>210</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 210, Jan 18, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 18, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 210, Jan 18, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff __AGAIN__
* Electricity Blackouts Continue
* Azerbaijan Military __Terrorizes Armenian Children__ on Bus
* International Calls to remove the blockade unconditionally and Azerbaijani Conditions to open the blockade
Episode 210 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 210, Jan 18, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff __AGAIN__
* Electricity Blackouts Continue
* Azerbaijan Military __Terrorizes Armenian Children__ on Bus
* International Calls to remove the blockade unconditionally and Azerbaijani Conditions to open the blockade
Episode 210 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 210, Jan 18, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff __AGAIN__
* Electricity Blackouts Continue
* Azerbaijan Military __Terrorizes Armenian Children__ on Bus
* International Calls to remove the blockade unconditionally and Azerbaijani Conditions to open the blockade
Episode 210 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/210/thumbnail-210.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/210/thumbnail-210.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12071770-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-18-2023.mp3" length="6997292" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>579</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Rananjay Anand | Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO | Indian Armenian Relations | The Hope &amp; Promise | Ep 209 - Jan 18, 2023
[EP209]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/209-rananjay-anand-indo-armenian-friendship-ngo-india-on-world-stage-economic-trade-defense-relations-hope-promise/</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12067705-indian-armenian-relations-and-friendship-with-rananjay-anand-ep-209-january-18-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>209</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Rananjay Anand | Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO | Indian Armenian Relations | The Hope &amp; Promise | Ep 209 - Jan 18, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Jan 18, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Conversations on Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Rananjay Anand](/guest/ranand)
#### Topics:
* Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO
* The Indian Community in Armenia
* Where India sees itself on the world stage
* Drivers for Indian-Armenian Relations
* How to improve economic and trade relations
* The Hope & Promise of Indian Armenian Friendship
Episode 209 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
Conversations on Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Rananjay Anand](/guest/ranand)
#### Topics:
* Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO
* The Indian Community in Armenia
* Where India sees itself on the world stage
* Drivers for Indian-Armenian Relations
* How to improve economic and trade relations
* The Hope & Promise of Indian Armenian Friendship
Episode 209 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
Conversations on Groong - Jan 18, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Rananjay Anand](/guest/ranand)
#### Topics:
* Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO
* The Indian Community in Armenia
* Where India sees itself on the world stage
* Drivers for Indian-Armenian Relations
* How to improve economic and trade relations
* The Hope & Promise of Indian Armenian Friendship
Episode 209 | Recorded: January 18, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>Mr. Anand, since this is your first time on our show, we’re interested in hearing more about you and your involvement with Armenian relations or the involvement of Armenians in your life.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the Indo-Armenian Friendship NGO that you co-founded?
<ul>
<li>How many members does it have?</li>
<li>Where does it get its funding?</li>
<li>Do you get support from the Indian embassy or the MFA?</li>
<li>Are there other NGOs that support the Indian community in Armenia?</li>
<li>How large is the Indian community in Armenia, and what ties do you maintain with them?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What attracted you to working in the field of relationship building between the two nations?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="india-on-the-world-stage">India on the World Stage</h3>
<p>India is one of the largest countries in the world, and is barely second only to China as the most populous country in the world. In fact, within a few years India is expected to overtake China in this area. At the same time, India is the most populous, or largest democracy in the world, and a major regional and nuclear power, with significant technology and defense industries. So it is quickly rising to become a world power, which other major powers can no longer ignore or take for granted. Since the start of the war in Ukraine, Indian-Russian partnership has further developed. India has increased its consumption of Russian gas. India is also a key member of BRICS, which is set to grow much more in influence as a testament to the rearrangement of the world geopolitical order.</p>
<ul>
<li>Where does India see itself on the world stage in the coming few years and decades?</li>
<li>Why is India not a permanent UN Security Council member?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="india-and-armenia">India and Armenia</h3>
<p>India and Armenia are seemingly natural allies. On the diplomatic side, Armenia is the only country in the Caucasus that has a Friendship and Cooperation Treaty with India (<a href="http://www.mea.gov.in/portal/foreignrelation/armenia_brief_2013.pdf">since 1995</a>). But in terms of economy, for whatever reason, Indian-Armenian trade isn’t as great as it could be.</p>
<p>However, since late October 2021 there is renewed energy in developing economic, as well as military relations between the two countries, as  Indian Foreign Minister Subramanyam Jaishankar, made a historic, first-ever diplomatic visit to Armenia.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, India’s adversary Pakistan has been very active in developing its relations with Armenia’s enemies, Turkey and Azerbaijan, and continues to invest militarily in these relationships.</p>
<p>We’ve discussed on this show the North-South Corridor of world trade, which takes commerce to and from the Persian Gulf to the Black Sea, essentially connecting the economies of India and South Asia to Europe. This corridor theoretically would pass through Iran, and Armenia, and Georgia in the South Caucasus.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the main reasons why India is interested in strengthening its relationship with Armenia?</li>
<li>Are the factors purely economic, or do they have strategic military objectives as well, namely to counter Pakistan, Turkey, and combating terrorism?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="post-44-day-war-stance">Post 44-Day War Stance</h3>
<p>During the 44-day war in Nagorno Karabakh in 2020, Pakistan threw its full support behind Azerbaijan’s vicious aggression against a peaceful population. During and since that war, the world has mostly paid lip service to the war crimes and humanitarian crisis unfolding in Artsakh, and the need of the indigenous Armenian population. India has been a rare exception. Recently, India has not only been unambiguous in its support and sympathy for Armenia, but has also started helping Armenia rearm itself, and supplying it with Indian-made weapons to defend itself.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the drivers behind India’s policy?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="increasing-trade-relations">Increasing Trade Relations</h3>
<p>Improving geopolitical ties between India and Armenia can be greatly supported and augmented by public-private partnerships, with the help of private citizens and businessmen such as yourself. Despite being one of the most populous and largest countries in the world, India is not one of the top 5 of Armenia’s trade partners. Yet India is Azerbaijan’s <a href="https://www.indianembassybaku.gov.in/page/bilateral-brief/#:~:text=4.,in%20Baku%20in%20March%201999.">4th largest trade</a> partner.</p>
<ul>
<li>How do we get more business people in India and Armenia to invest in bilateral trade?</li>
<li>Are there investment funds, or public-private partnership opportunities, to help support such activities?</li>
</ul>
<p>In 2021 <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/armenia/imports/india">Armenia imported from India</a> around $89 million worth of products, while <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/armenia/imports/india">India imported from Armenia</a> around $122 million; most of it was in gold, or other metals, gems, precious stones. This will go up in 2023, given the <a href="https://theprint.in/defence/artillery-to-rocket-launchers-armenia-turns-to-india-to-beef-up-defence-against-azerbaijan/1215570/">defense deal</a> that was signed in September 2022.</p>
<ul>
<li>Where do you expect Indian-Armenian trade to be, let’s say in 3-5 years?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/209/thumbnail-209.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/209/thumbnail-209.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12067705-indian-armenian-relations-and-friendship-with-rananjay-anand-ep-209-january-18-2023.mp3" length="29264377" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2434</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Edgar Ghazaryan: Էդգար Ղազարյանը, Արցախում քաղաքական զարգացումների մասին
[EP207]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/207-edgar-ghazaryan-political-developments-in-artsakh-ruben-vardanyan/</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:20:57 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12062175-edgar-ghazaryan-ep-207-jan-17-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>207</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Edgar Ghazaryan: Էդգար Ղազարյանը, Արցախում քաղաքական զարգացումների մասին</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Edgar Ghazaryan: Էդգար Ղազարյանը, Արցախում քաղաքական զարգացումների մասին | Ep 207 - Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan/Էդգար Ղազարյան](/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
Why should Ruben Vardanyan stay?
Ինչու՞ պետք է Ռուբեն Վարդանյանը մնա
Episode 207 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Edgar Ghazaryan: Էդգար Ղազարյանը, Արցախում քաղաքական զարգացումների մասին | Ep 207 - Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan/Էդգար Ղազարյան](/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
Why should Ruben Vardanyan stay?
Ինչու՞ պետք է Ռուբեն Վարդանյանը մնա
Episode 207 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Edgar Ghazaryan: Էդգար Ղազարյանը, Արցախում քաղաքական զարգացումների մասին | Ep 207 - Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest/Հյուրը:
* [Edgar Ghazaryan/Էդգար Ղազարյան](/guest/eghazaryan)
#### Topics:
Why should Ruben Vardanyan stay?
Ինչու՞ պետք է Ռուբեն Վարդանյանը մնա
Episode 207 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/207/thumbnail-207.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/207/thumbnail-207.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12062175-edgar-ghazaryan-ep-207-jan-17-2023.mp3" length="23929971" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1991</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 208, Jan 17, 2023
[EP208]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/208-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230117/</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12064281-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-17-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>208</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 208, Jan 17, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 208, Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff and Restoral
* Increasing Rolling Blackouts of Electricity
* Effects of Political Uncertainty
Episode 208 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 208, Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff and Restoral
* Increasing Rolling Blackouts of Electricity
* Effects of Political Uncertainty
Episode 208 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 208, Jan 17, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 17, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Gas Cutoff and Restoral
* Increasing Rolling Blackouts of Electricity
* Effects of Political Uncertainty
Episode 208 | Recorded: January 17, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/208/thumbnail-208.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/208/thumbnail-208.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12064281-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-17-2023.mp3" length="4068578" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>335</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian | Artsakh Blockade | Pashinyan Press Conference | Ministry of Interior Appointments | Artsakh Foreign Minister | Armenia Economy Outlook 2023 | Ep 206 - Jan 15, 2023
[EP206]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/206-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-blockade-pashinyan-press-conference-ministry-interior-appointments-artsakh-appointments-armenia-economy-outlook-2023/</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12052175-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-blockade-pashinyan-press-conference-ministry-of-interior-appointments-artsakh-foreign-minister-armenia-economy-outlook-2023-ep-206-jan-15-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>206</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian | Artsakh Blockade | Pashinyan Press Conference | Ministry of Interior Appointments | Artsakh Foreign Minister | Armenia Economy Outlook 2023 | Ep 206 - Jan 15, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 01/15/2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute.
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Update and Politics in Stepanakert
* Pashinyan’s “Press Conference”
* Ministry of Interior Affairs Appointments
* Economic Review and Outlook in 2023
* Personal Comments
* Hrant - MPG polls results on Armenian Attitudes towards Russia
* Hovik - Stop the destructive internal politics
Episode 206 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute.
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Update and Politics in Stepanakert
* Pashinyan’s “Press Conference”
* Ministry of Interior Affairs Appointments
* Economic Review and Outlook in 2023
* Personal Comments
* Hrant - MPG polls results on Armenian Attitudes towards Russia
* Hovik - Stop the destructive internal politics
Episode 206 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute.
#### Topics:
* Artsakh Update and Politics in Stepanakert
* Pashinyan’s “Press Conference”
* Ministry of Interior Affairs Appointments
* Economic Review and Outlook in 2023
* Personal Comments
* Hrant - MPG polls results on Armenian Attitudes towards Russia
* Hovik - Stop the destructive internal politics
Episode 206 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="artsakh-blockade-status">Artsakh Blockade Status</h2>
<p>Well, we all know that Artsakh has been blockaded by Azerbaijan for over a month now. This happens to be day 35.</p>
<p>Last Monday afternoon, Artsakh’s main power line connecting Stepanakert and Goris was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101331.html">damaged</a>. ArtsakhEnergo has still not been allowed access to the site of repairs to restore service. So each day there are rolling blackouts to make do with locally produced electricity.</p>
<p>Mid-week there was a 24-hour Internet outage, but service was restored by Friday evening. Per our reports from Stepanakert, supplies are low, food stamps are being implemented right now, and over 200 businesses have shut down, and so a serious state budget revenue shortfall is expected. This is where things stand for now.</p>
<h3 id="new-cabinet-appointments">New Cabinet Appointments</h3>
<p>Turning to the politics in Stepanakert</p>
<p><a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100828.html">Last week</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101399.html">this week</a>, Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan and state minister Ruben Vardanyan announced new appointments to the cabinet.</p>
<ul>
<li>Srbuhi Arzumanyan First Deputy Chief of Staff for Arayik Harutyunyan.</li>
<li>Aram Sargsyan, Minister of Urban Development.</li>
<li>Armen Mangasaryan, Minister of Social Development and Migration.</li>
<li>Hrant Safaryan, Minister of Agriculture.</li>
<li>Suren Galstyan, Minister of Territorial Administration and Infrastructure,</li>
</ul>
<p>The key appointment was Sergey Ghazaryan, who is taking over the post of <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101463.html">foreign minister</a> from David Babayan.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What do we know about Sergey Ghazaryan, except that he has the guts to take on this job at this difficult moment in Artsakh’s history?</li>
<li>Why did we need a shuffling of the presidential cabinet right now? What were the reasons for it?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="is-ruben-vardanyan-staying-or-leaving">Is Ruben Vardanyan Staying or Leaving?</h3>
<p>On Saturday rumors surfaced that Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan might release Ruben Vardanyan as State Minister. Vardanyan himself <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/120534">denied</a> that he was going to resign, and his statement also said that under the current circumstances, it would be unacceptable for the president or parliament of Artsakh to resign, because it would fulfill the enemy’s agenda.</p>
<p>Hrant, on Sunday this news was on fire in Armenia.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>What did you make of this… information?</li>
<li>First of all, who published the original articles about Arayik Hauryunyan firing Vardanyan?</li>
<li>Why would Harutyunyan, and the Artsakh parliament resign at this point in time?</li>
<li>Is this the manifestation of a power struggle between Vardanyan and Harutyunyan? Or Vardanyan and Pashinyan? What’s going on?</li>
</ul>
<p>Aliyev has been vehement in his declarations that he would never talk with Vardanyan, and that he wants Vardanyan to leave Artsakh as quickly as possible. Their press has speculated publicly about carrying out raids into Stepanakert to either arrest him or even assassinate him.</p>
<ul>
<li>Has Aliyev’s irritation with Vardanyan’s presence in Stepanakert become a source of problems for Pashinyan and his so-called “agenda of peace”?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyans-press-conference">Pashinyan’s “Press Conference”</h2>
<p>Nearly a dozen press and media outlets were <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/120280">left out</a> of the invitation list to attend Nikol Pashinyan’s press conference on Monday. The Union of journalists of Armenia <a href="https://168.am/2023/01/09/1817091.html">called</a> on Pashinyan to rectify the situation and allow access to all Armenian news outlets.</p>
<p>It seems like this press conference was mostly a staged show for Pashinyan to make statements in the form of questions that he wanted asked, in order to give prepared answers for them. Also notable was the fact that Pashinyan and Aliyev held their major press conferences on the same day. Maybe next week we should talk about Aliyev’s statements.</p>
<h4 id="some-main-points-he-made">Some main points he made:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Armenia is using its “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101322.html">diplomatic toolkit</a>” to put pressure on Azerbaijan to open the Lachin corridor.
<ul>
<li>It can be said that Armenia not only doesn’t consider using force to secure the Armenians of Artsakh, but it refuses to even prepare for a coming war.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan denied that Armenia has threatened to leave the CSTO if Russia can not open communications by Tuesday, January 10.
<ul>
<li>We should note that on the same day, Armenia <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101323.html">declined</a> to hold CSTO military exercises in Armenia in 2023, with a statement that contradicted the Russian defense minister’s statement, and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101346.html">surprised</a> the Russians.</li>
<li>At the same time, Armenian officials announce that it is the CSTO that is leaving Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101330.html">talked</a> about the discussions with both Russia, and the CSTO, about Armenia’s expectations for its allies’  red lines regarding the inviolability of its borders. Among other statements, he floated the idea that the Russian base in Armenia is more of a liability than a security cornerstone for Armenia’s defense, if the Russians are unwilling to act.</li>
<li>Pashinyan said that Armenia is <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101324.html">changing its point of view</a> regarding its regional political orientation, and the process of “normalization” with Turkey, and the recent opening of the Turkish-Armenian border for air-cargo is a result of that.</li>
<li>He blamed Azerbaijan’s corridor demands as a hindrance to regional peace.</li>
<li>Pashinyan said that his <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101327.html">policy towards Artsakh</a> is to have them decide their own fate, rather than the government of Armenia. He said Armenia would support the Armenians of Artsakh “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101337.html">by all available means</a>”, and he pointed to the sums that his government had allocated to rebuild Artsakh.</li>
<li>Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101329.html">denied</a> that there have been any “official” invitations for Armenia to join the Russia-Belarus “Union State”, but he said such ideas may have been voiced by political analysts (who were not identified).</li>
<li>Pashinyan said that Azerbaijan is still keeping around <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101343.html">200 Armenian POWs</a> as a lever to pressure the Armenian side in negotiations.</li>
<li>Pashinyan predicts that Armenia is able to ensure <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101348.html">7% economic growth</a> in 2023. For reference the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101383.html">World Bank expects 4.1%</a>, but the war in Ukraine remains a major factor of uncertainty in Armenia’s economic growth.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="given-what-weve-heard">Given what we’ve heard:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Is a “diplomatic toolkit” going to be sufficient to force Azerbaijan to open the Lachin corridor?</li>
<li>What is Pashinyan referring to when he says it’s time for Armenia to “change its perspective”?</li>
</ul>
<p>It’s clear that Pashinyan is hinting that the closure of the Russian base in Armenia is on the table for him. He left a level of ambiguity to give himself an out, but the trial balloon is clear.</p>
<p>The removal of Russia from the South Caucasus is a fundamental western geopolitical goal and we’ve discussed this on our show in the past.</p>
<ul>
<li>What would be the consequences of such a move on the part of the Armenian government?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ministry-of-interior-affairs-appointments">Ministry of Interior Affairs Appointments</h2>
<p>In December the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32179993.html">parliament approved</a> the Ministry of Justice proposal to consolidate the police, rescue, and immigration services into a new Ministry of Interior. Last weekend Pashinyan named his new minister of interior to be a childhood friend of his, Vahe Ghazaryan. The move was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32217305.html">widely criticized</a> by the opposition, as well as civic groups and international NGOs.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the ramifications of this appointment to the leadership of basically all of the police forces of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="economic-outlook-in-2023">Economic Outlook in 2023</h2>
<p>In his press conference, Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101348.html">said</a> that for 2022 his government had predicted or promised 7% economic growth, but due to the effects of the war in Ukraine something around 12-13% was achieved. In fact what I recall was that his minister of the economy had promised a double digit growth, but anyway.</p>
<p>For 2023, Pashinyan expects 7% economic growth. The World Bank <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101383.html">expects</a> 4.1%.</p>
<h4 id="questions-2">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Hrant, what does the Central Bank of Armenia expect, and what do you think is possible, or reasonable?</li>
<li>What are the major factors that could push the economic growth up or down in the coming year?</li>
<li>Where do you expect Armenia’s inflation to be in 2023? Why?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Hrant - On MPG poll results on Armenian attitudes towards Russia</li>
<li>Hovik - On the destructive Armenian internal politics</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/206/thumbnail-206.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/206/thumbnail-206.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12052175-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-blockade-pashinyan-press-conference-ministry-of-interior-appointments-artsakh-foreign-minister-armenia-economy-outlook-2023-ep-206-jan-15-2023.mp3" length="44041952" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3667</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 205, Jan 15, 2023
[EP205]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/205-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230115/</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12047936-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-15-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>205</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 205, Jan 15, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 205, Jan 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Food Stamps & Rationing
* Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
* Awareness of Protesters and Corridor Blockage
Episode 205 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 205, Jan 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Food Stamps & Rationing
* Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
* Awareness of Protesters and Corridor Blockage
Episode 205 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 205, Jan 15, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 15, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Food Stamps & Rationing
* Politics around Ruben Vardanyan
* Awareness of Protesters and Corridor Blockage
Episode 205 | Recorded: January 15, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/205/thumbnail-205.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/205/thumbnail-205.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12047936-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-15-2023.mp3" length="3530038" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>290</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 204, Jan 14, 2023
[EP204]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/204-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230114/</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12043377-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-14-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>204</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 204, Jan 14, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 204, Jan 14, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* Internet Connection Difficulties
* Over 200 Businesses Closed
* Thousands laid off
* Kashen Mine remains Closed
* Status in the Regions and Towns
* Concerns over Tax Revenue  Shortfalls
* Concerns about Rumors and Disinformation
Episode 204 | Recorded: January 14, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 204, Jan 14, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* Internet Connection Difficulties
* Over 200 Businesses Closed
* Thousands laid off
* Kashen Mine remains Closed
* Status in the Regions and Towns
* Concerns over Tax Revenue  Shortfalls
* Concerns about Rumors and Disinformation
Episode 204 | Recorded: January 14, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 204, Jan 14, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 14, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* Internet Connection Difficulties
* Over 200 Businesses Closed
* Thousands laid off
* Kashen Mine remains Closed
* Status in the Regions and Towns
* Concerns over Tax Revenue  Shortfalls
* Concerns about Rumors and Disinformation
Episode 204 | Recorded: January 14, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/204/thumbnail-204.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/204/thumbnail-204.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12043377-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-14-2023.mp3" length="4151129" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>342</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aram Orbelyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 33
[EP202]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/202-aram-orbelyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-33/</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12038253-aram-orbelian-artsakh-under-blockade-day-33-ep-202-jan-13-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>202</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Orbelyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 33</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - January 13, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014.
***"The Armenian government, under its legislation, is obliged to protect the independence of Artsakh" - Aram Orbelyan***
#### Topic:
As of earlier this week, Artsakh has introduced coupons to ration food. Other critical supplies are also hard to find.
To add to the issues faced by Artsakhtsis, there are reports of a damaged high voltage electricity cable, whose repair is being prevented by Azerbaijan, resulting in rolling blackouts all throughout Artsakh.
And yesterday, the only fiber optic cable to Artsakh was cut at the same location where the pseudo eco-activists are. Access to repair the cable is not being granted.
Outside of a few muffled statements, the indifferent world watches on.
Today’s episode is a collaborative effort with “168 Hours” in an effort to increase the amount of English language content in the midst of this crisis in Artsakh, which has entered its 33rd day.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 202 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014.
***"The Armenian government, under its legislation, is obliged to protect the independence of Artsakh" - Aram Orbelyan***
#### Topic:
As of earlier this week, Artsakh has introduced coupons to ration food. Other critical supplies are also hard to find.
To add to the issues faced by Artsakhtsis, there are reports of a damaged high voltage electricity cable, whose repair is being prevented by Azerbaijan, resulting in rolling blackouts all throughout Artsakh.
And yesterday, the only fiber optic cable to Artsakh was cut at the same location where the pseudo eco-activists are. Access to repair the cable is not being granted.
Outside of a few muffled statements, the indifferent world watches on.
Today’s episode is a collaborative effort with “168 Hours” in an effort to increase the amount of English language content in the midst of this crisis in Artsakh, which has entered its 33rd day.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 202 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014.
***"The Armenian government, under its legislation, is obliged to protect the independence of Artsakh" - Aram Orbelyan***
#### Topic:
As of earlier this week, Artsakh has introduced coupons to ration food. Other critical supplies are also hard to find.
To add to the issues faced by Artsakhtsis, there are reports of a damaged high voltage electricity cable, whose repair is being prevented by Azerbaijan, resulting in rolling blackouts all throughout Artsakh.
And yesterday, the only fiber optic cable to Artsakh was cut at the same location where the pseudo eco-activists are. Access to repair the cable is not being granted.
Outside of a few muffled statements, the indifferent world watches on.
Today’s episode is a collaborative effort with “168 Hours” in an effort to increase the amount of English language content in the midst of this crisis in Artsakh, which has entered its 33rd day.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 202 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>We have a number of additional questions for you so thank you for giving us your time again.</p>
<h3 id="azerbaijans-legal-basis">Azerbaijan’s Legal Basis</h3>
<p>Ever since this blockade started a number of world governments and international organizations have called on Azerbaijan to unblock the Berdzor corridor. Yet, so far all these calls are on deaf ears.</p>
<ul>
<li>What legal basis does Azerbaijan’s basis of establishing a control checkpoint on the Berdzor corridor have?</li>
<li>How do Azerbaijan’s actions relate to the Nov. 9th document?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="is-it-genocide">Is It Genocide?</h3>
<p>A number of organizations worldwide have warned about the risk of genocide in Artsakh. The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention has so far <a href="https://www.lemkininstitute.com/red-flag-alerts-1/red-flag-alert-for-genocide----azerbaijan---update-5">issued</a> 5 updates for its “Red Flag Alert” on Artsakh, calling both the separation of Artsakh from Armenia and the act of isolating and terrorizing ethnic Armenians residing in Artsakh, as implementation of “genocidal policies in the region”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>To help disambiguate this topic, can you tell us what the difference is between war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide?</li>
<li>Do you believe that the activities of Azerbaijan fit the definition of genocide?</li>
</ul>
<p>The other day I was trying to explain the situation to an american friend of mine and he seemed concerned when I used the word genocide. The response I got was: “if its an ongoing genocide, then why aren’t people dying? Also, if its a genocide, then why aren’t the western media writing about it?”</p>
<ul>
<li>Are we devaluing the word genocide by using it in this context, especially as Armenians, whose 1.5 million brethren perished in 1915?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-role">Armenia’s Role</h3>
<p>The Armenian authorities place the entire responsibility for unblocking the Berdzor-Lachin corridor on the Russian peacekeeping contingent.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is the role of the Armenian government in securing the safety of 120,000 of our compatriots in Artsakh? Are they considered citizens of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Armenian declaration of independence, which is an inseparable part of the Constitution, makes a reference to the “December 1, 1989, joint decision of the Armenian SSR Supreme Council and the Artsakh National Council on the &ldquo;Reunification of the Armenian SSR and the Mountainous Region of Karabakh&rdquo;</p>
<p>In essence Armenia has recognized Artsakh as part of the Republic of Armenia. In fact, we know that until 1995 there were elected parliamentarians in the national assembly representing Artsakh.</p>
<ul>
<li>What obligations does Armenia have in relation to this blockade, considering the preamble to the constitution?</li>
<li>What tools does Armenia have in its toolset that haven’t been used yet?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="echr">ECHR</h3>
<p>Armenia as a member of the Council of Europe is also a member of the European Convention on Human rights. So is Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>At the start of the blockade, Armenia had applied to the European Court of Human Rights requesting interim measures, and the ECHR approved the request partially.</p>
<p>The ECHR <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32187759.html">called</a> on Azerbaijan to “take all measures that are within their jurisdiction to ensure safe passage through the ‘Lachin Corridor’ of seriously ill persons in need of medical treatment in Armenia and others who were stranded on the road without shelter or means of subsistence.”</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was this narrow decision a victory for Armenia? Isn’t that too specific, targeting only seriously ill people and those who were stranded on the road? How about resumption of supplies? How about the free passage of all people?</li>
<li>We know that during the 44-day war, Azerbaijan ignored the ECHR’s interim measure? In case of non-compliance, can sanctions be applied, and what kind of sanctions can they be? Who would apply them?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="power-of-announcements">Power of Announcements</h3>
<p>In the last 2 years, the three signatories of the Nov 9-10 statement, Armenia, Russia, and Azerbaijan, have made numerous declarations starting from The Statement, and subsequent declarations that use it as a basis.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What legal value or power do such declarations have, especially considering Armenia’s constitution? Are they mere declarations or can they have binding power?</li>
<li>Why are so many international partners expressing support for the Nov. 9-10 deal and hoping that peace will be signed based on that document, when it is clear that Azerbaijan is applying the use of force or the threat of use of force at every step?</li>
</ul>
<p>We keep hearing the leader of Azerbaijan threatening Armenians of Artsakh, while issues more and more claims about opening corridors by force, and etcetera. Pashinyan has since then issued multiple additional statements, including the one in Prague where Pashinyan is reported to have completely washed his hands of Artsakh. Meanwhile, Armenian POWs are still in Baku.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Could those statements, singed under constant threats and human rights abuses, be considered to be signed under duress? Could they be considered legally invalid?</li>
<li>Is the principle of the non-use of force, which is part of the <a href="https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/5/c/39501.pdf">Helsinki Final Act</a>, dead? Why was Azerbaijan not punished for violating these principles?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our<a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/"> show</a>, we hope you found that useful. Please find us on<a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"> Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/202/thumbnail-202.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/202/thumbnail-202.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12038253-aram-orbelian-artsakh-under-blockade-day-33-ep-202-jan-13-2023.mp3" length="35412549" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2947</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 203, Jan 13, 2023
[EP203]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/203-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230113/</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12039325-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-13-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>203</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 203, Jan 13, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 13, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 203, Jan 13, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 13, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet Restored
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* 33rd Day of #ArtsakhBlockade, and 33rd Anniversary of Baku & Sumgait Pogroms in Azerbaijan

Episode 203 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 203, Jan 13, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 13, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet Restored
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* 33rd Day of #ArtsakhBlockade, and 33rd Anniversary of Baku & Sumgait Pogroms in Azerbaijan

Episode 203 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 203, Jan 13, 2023
Armenian News Network Groong - Jan 13, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet Restored
* Rolling Blackouts Continue
* 33rd Day of #ArtsakhBlockade, and 33rd Anniversary of Baku & Sumgait Pogroms in Azerbaijan

Episode 203 | Recorded: January 13, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1101642.html">Internet connectivity</a> was restored in Artsakh later this afternoon.</li>
<li>Today is the 33rd day of the #ArtsakhBlockade - but it also marks the 33rd anniversary of the Baku and Sumgait pogroms against Armenians in Azerbaijan. Does anything ever change, when it comes to hate against the Armenians in Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/203/thumbnail-203.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/203/thumbnail-203.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12039325-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-13-2023.mp3" length="4656803" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>384</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 201, Jan 12, 2023
[EP201]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/201-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230112/</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2023 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12033011-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-12-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>201</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 201, Jan 12, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Groong - Jan 12, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 201, Jan 12, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet cutoff
* Power situation and rolling blackouts
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
* It's going to get tougher...
* Consequences of Internet cutoff
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
Episode 201 | Recorded: January 12, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 201, Jan 12, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet cutoff
* Power situation and rolling blackouts
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
* It's going to get tougher...
* Consequences of Internet cutoff
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
Episode 201 | Recorded: January 12, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 201, Jan 12, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 12, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Internet cutoff
* Power situation and rolling blackouts
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
* It's going to get tougher...
* Consequences of Internet cutoff
* Psychological pressure on Artsakh
Episode 201 | Recorded: January 12, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/201/thumbnail-201.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/201/thumbnail-201.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12033011-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-12-2023.mp3" length="5375745" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>444</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 200, Jan 11, 2023
[EP200]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/200-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-blockade-flash-update-20230111/</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12025819-artsakhblockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-11-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>200</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 200, Jan 11, 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Groong - Jan 11, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 200, Jan 11, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Power Shortages
* Food Rationing and Basic Supplies
* Weather Conditions
* New Ministerial Appointments
Episode 200 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</itunes:summary><description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 200, Jan 11, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Power Shortages
* Food Rationing and Basic Supplies
* Weather Conditions
* New Ministerial Appointments
Episode 200 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</description><googleplay:description>Artsakh Blockade Flash Update with Gev Iskajyan - Ep 200, Jan 11, 2023
Armenian News Network - Jan 11, 2023
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
#### Topics:
* Power Shortages
* Food Rationing and Basic Supplies
* Weather Conditions
* New Ministerial Appointments
Episode 200 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">#ArtsakhBlockade Flash Update</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/200/thumbnail-200.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/200/thumbnail-200.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12025819-artsakhblockade-flash-update-with-gev-jan-11-2023.mp3" length="6167569" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>510</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>William Bairamian, Arthur Khachikyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 31
[EP199]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/199-william-bairamian-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-31/</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2023 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12024892-william-bairamian-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-31-ep-199-jan-11-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>199</itunes:episode><itunes:title>William Bairamian, Arthur Khachikyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 31</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - January 11, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [William Bairamian](/guest/wbairamian), founder and editor of The Armenite. He has written extensively on Armenian politics, culture, and society. He received degrees in international affairs from Columbia University and UCLA.
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
***“This is a repeat of Srebrenica. To gradually strangle and force the people to leave.” -Arthur Khachikyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 31st day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 199 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [William Bairamian](/guest/wbairamian), founder and editor of The Armenite. He has written extensively on Armenian politics, culture, and society. He received degrees in international affairs from Columbia University and UCLA.
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
***“This is a repeat of Srebrenica. To gradually strangle and force the people to leave.” -Arthur Khachikyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 31st day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 199 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [William Bairamian](/guest/wbairamian), founder and editor of The Armenite. He has written extensively on Armenian politics, culture, and society. He received degrees in international affairs from Columbia University and UCLA.
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
***“This is a repeat of Srebrenica. To gradually strangle and force the people to leave.” -Arthur Khachikyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 31st day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 199 | Recorded: January 11, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>The dire situation in Artsakh and Armenia is developing at ever increasing speed.</p>
<p>Yesterday, in addition to the political crisis in Artsakh, Nikol Pashinyan held a press conference where he essentially put it in the plainest terms that Armenia’s security partnership with Russia and CSTO is not welcome for his regime. And despite the blockade of Artsakh and daily threats of violence by Aliyev, his government is interested in signing a treaty, one that he calls “a peace treaty” but which we call a capitulation.</p>
<h3 id="1-what-is-pashinyans-endgame">1. What is Pashinyan’s endgame?</h3>
<p>At times, Pashinyan and his team’s behavior has been very haphazard. One day they criticize the Russians on another day they suck up to Putin and say that Armenia is Russia’s greatest ally.</p>
<p>But yesterday’s speech leaves no room for doubt.</p>
<p>**** Reactions</p>
<p>BACKGROUND INFO, WHICH CAN BE MENTIONED:</p>
<pre><code>Pashinyan’s 4-hour press conference:
</code></pre>
<ul>
<li>Russian military-base in Armenia is not a guarantee of Armenia’s security but places that security under threat because of Russia’s unwillingness to act to defend its ally.</li>
<li>Aliyev is scared of signing a peace treaty with Armenia because he fears that after signing Armenia may start new processes to threaten Azerbaijan’s statehood.</li>
<li>CSTO exercises in Armenia could be perceived as a threat to Turkey / Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2-apparent-inaction-in-diaspora-and-armenia">2. Apparent inaction in Diaspora and Armenia</h3>
<p>Over the last two years, the Armenian nation has seen a continuum of tragic events, one after another.</p>
<p>During the 44 day war, both in Armenia and Diaspora we witnessed what national mobilization could look like. From protests in front of the CNN office to wide scale volunteering for the battlefield.</p>
<p>However, this changed after Nov 10. In Armenia, there’s a very vocal resistance movement that has been critical of the Pashinyan regime, and was not able to achieve their stated goal of removing Pashinyan. The movement has died down as the opposition’s legitimacy has tanked. The majority of people however are on the sidelines.</p>
<p>In the Diaspora, among politically invested circles there are also great divisions, as exemplified by the split in the ARF. But a majority of the diasporans too don’t seem to be keen on expressing an opinion on political matters.</p>
<p>And it seems that even issues such as the blockade of Artsakh or even Pashinyan’s speech yesterday don’t seem to be generating reactions, one way or another.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>William</strong>, you live in the diaspora. I believe you’ve also thought about these questions in detail over the past few years. What is your take on this? Is this a real problem or an issue of perception? What is it exactly? Apathy? Sublimated anger? And if it is a problem, is it measurable?</li>
<li>What are the causes for this apparent low engagement? Has the war in Ukraine affected this in any way?</li>
<li>The traditional notion is that when there is unity among Armenians (both diaspora and motherland) then we are successful. If achieving unity and increasing support is critical, how do we achieve it?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="3-foreign-funding-of-media">3. Foreign Funding of Media</h3>
<p>William, you’ve <a href="https://thearmenite.com/2021/06/foreign-money-in-armenia-ngo-media-funding/">documented</a> the work of foreign-funded NGOs in Armenia for The Armenite.</p>
<p>I was reminded of this problem when in a Facebook group that I’m a member of, someone asked for recommendations of news sources in Armenia. One member recommended Azatutyun (which we all know to be funded by the US State Department) while another member recommended a different news outlet which was alleged to be influenced by Russia.</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you tell us what motivated you to do this work?</li>
<li>Is it really a problem? If so, how big?
<ul>
<li>How big was the influence of foreign media in bringing Nikol Pashinyan to power.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>So what if Azatutyun is US funded? Don’t they have governance policies that force them to be objective, balanced, etc…?</li>
<li>How about Sputnik and other Russian media? Should they also get similar treatment?</li>
</ul>
<p>The US has FARA which requires certain foreign funded media to register as foreign agents, but interestingly it is selectively enforced. For example, Russian media such as Sputnik were only required to register under FARA recently.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is the problem primarily or exclusively a legislative one? Would FARA-like legislation work in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="4-the-coming-new-world-order">4. The Coming “New World Order”</h3>
<p>With the war in Ukraine, many are predicting a schism between Russia and the Western world. Others are pointing to a multipolar world, with regional actors playing bigger roles.</p>
<h4 id="questions-1">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>How real are predictions of a multipolar world? How much of this is dependent on the outcome of what happens in Ukraine?</li>
<li>If so, what will this new world look like?</li>
<li>Is “complementarism”, Armenia’s previous foreign policy of trying to appease both the West and Russia, dead?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/199/thumbnail-199.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/199/thumbnail-199.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/12024892-william-bairamian-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-31-ep-199-jan-11-2023.mp3" length="53813068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4481</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hovhannes Ishkanyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 25
[EP198]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/198-hovhannes-ishkhanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-25/</link><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 22:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11987334-hovhannes-ishkhanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-25-ep-198-jan-5-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>198</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hovhannes Ishkanyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 25</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - January 5, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hovhannes Ishkhanyan](/guest/hishkhanyan), writer, documentary filmmaker, publicist, co-founder of Eye for an Eye (Akn Und Akan), a community of documentarians. Hovhannes has a Master's in journalism from the Georgian Institute of Public Affairs.
***Using art to prevent catastrophes instead of reacting to them***
Ishkhanyan's documentary "Sleep art": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g)
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 25th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 198 | Recorded: January 5, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hovhannes Ishkhanyan](/guest/hishkhanyan), writer, documentary filmmaker, publicist, co-founder of Eye for an Eye (Akn Und Akan), a community of documentarians. Hovhannes has a Master's in journalism from the Georgian Institute of Public Affairs.
***Using art to prevent catastrophes instead of reacting to them***
Ishkhanyan's documentary "Sleep art": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g)
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 25th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 198 | Recorded: January 5, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hovhannes Ishkhanyan](/guest/hishkhanyan), writer, documentary filmmaker, publicist, co-founder of Eye for an Eye (Akn Und Akan), a community of documentarians. Hovhannes has a Master's in journalism from the Georgian Institute of Public Affairs.
***Using art to prevent catastrophes instead of reacting to them***
Ishkhanyan's documentary "Sleep art": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqzPpVsK-g)
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin (Berdzor) corridor, as this crisis enters its 25th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 198 | Recorded: January 5, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="apathy-and-indifference">Apathy and Indifference</h3>
<p>The blockade of Artsakh is 25 days old. More than 120K people are at risk of being famished.</p>
<p>Yet, in Yerevan and Armenia in general life goes on as usual. On NY’s eve, as the clock struck 12, fireworks were launched all over the city. The entire city seemed to be one big Disneyland. Watching the fireworks was most surreal from Yerablur.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think this is normal?</li>
<li>Does the Armenian government have a responsibility to set the public’s mood?
<ul>
<li>For instance, a popular liberal veteran journalist recently said that only dictatorships control public moods. But then we see cities like Warsaw, Poland canceling NY fireworks partly in support of Ukrainians.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are the Armenian people indifferent, or apathetic, or tuned out of the unfolding politics around Armenia and the region? Have they given up, or lost hope?</li>
<li>What do you think is the cause for the passivity in Yerevan towards the plight of the Artakhtsis.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenian-government-helpless">Armenian Government Helpless?</h3>
<p>The Armenian authorities are prone to blaming anyone they can find for the situation that has been created. At times they’ve blamed the voters, other times they’ve <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32204447.html">blamed</a> Russia and the Russian peacekeeping force.</p>
<p>Simultaneous to this, Armenia says that Artsakh is no longer their problem and turns to France, the US, or the EU for help, including sending in peacekeepers or observer missions.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you find the Armenian government’s response? Does Armenia have any other responsibilities besides just calling for help and spreading blame?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="aghavno">Aghavno</h3>
<p>Hovhannes, earlier in 2022 as news about the potential of ceding Aghavno/Berdzor surfaced, a group of artists including yourself went to Aghavno to stay there and raise awareness of the situation among the Armenian public. In fact, I visited for you and I left a few days prior to Aghavno being emptied, while you stayed until the end.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe your experience in Aghavno/Berdzor?</li>
<li>Do you see any connection between the Aghavno/Berdzor events and what is going on today?</li>
<li>Can you describe how the creative, artist or sports community in Armenia have reacted, or acted, to the ongoing crisis surrounding Armenia  1- for two years now, and 2- in the last month that this blockade has been draining Artsakh?
<ul>
<li>Have these communities had an effect on the public mood and disposition towards the unfolding tragedy of the past two years or month?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eye-for-an-eye">Eye for an Eye</h3>
<p>Hovahnnes, tell us about <em><a href="https://www.facebook.com/aknandakan">Akn Und Akan</a></em>.</p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/198/thumbnail-198.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/198/thumbnail-198.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11987334-hovhannes-ishkhanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-25-ep-198-jan-5-2023.mp3" length="29955163" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2492</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Reflections on Artsakh Blockade | Is Russia Pressuring Armenia to join Union State | Bill to Control Internet during Martial Law | Highlights and Lowlights of 2022 | Predictions for 2023
[EP197]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/197-artsakh-blockade-union-state-internet-control-highlights-lowlights-2023-predictions/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2023 23:15:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11976272-reflections-on-artsakh-blockade-is-russia-pressuring-armenia-to-join-union-state-bill-to-control-internet-during-martial-law-highlights-and-lowlights-of-2022-predictions-for-2023-ep-197-jan-1-2023.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>197</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Reflections on Artsakh Blockade | Is Russia Pressuring Armenia to join Union State | Bill to Control Internet during Martial Law | Highlights and Lowlights of 2022 | Predictions for 2023</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Jan 1, 2023
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Hovik’s Reflections from the Artsakh Blockade Interviews
* Is Russia Pressuring Armenia to join a “Union State”?
* Government Bill to Control the Internet During Martial Law
* Highlights and Lowlights from Armenian News in 2022
* Predictions for 2023
Episode 197 | Recorded: January 3, 2023</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Hovik’s Reflections from the Artsakh Blockade Interviews
* Is Russia Pressuring Armenia to join a “Union State”?
* Government Bill to Control the Internet During Martial Law
* Highlights and Lowlights from Armenian News in 2022
* Predictions for 2023
Episode 197 | Recorded: January 3, 2023</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topic:
* Hovik’s Reflections from the Artsakh Blockade Interviews
* Is Russia Pressuring Armenia to join a “Union State”?
* Government Bill to Control the Internet During Martial Law
* Highlights and Lowlights from Armenian News in 2022
* Predictions for 2023
Episode 197 | Recorded: January 3, 2023</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="artsakh-blockade">Artsakh Blockade</h2>
<p>Hovik, since you’ve been interviewing analysts and politicians for the past 2 weeks, on the topic of the Artsakh Blockade, can you share your impressions from these conversations?</p>
<h2 id="fsu-is-now-the-future-soviet-union">FSU is now the Future Soviet Union</h2>
<p>Once again this week rumors flared up that Putin is pressuring Armenia to join the so-called “Union State” that currently consists of Russia and Belarus. This <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32195524.html">round was set off</a> by the secretary of the Armenian national security council, Armen Grigoryan. For a day or so the entire ruling party was buzzing with this news, but Russia vehemently <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32197595.html">denied</a> the report and slammed the provocative remarks.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are reports of a Future Soviet Union exaggerated or true?</li>
<li>What do you make of the allegations that Russia is using the ongoing Artsakh blockade to pressure Armenia to a- join the Union State, and b- to agree to an extra-territorial so-called corridor for Azerbaijan through Armenia, to Nakhichevan?</li>
</ul>
<p>Even Civil Contract parliamentarians have said that the government has not reported to them that such requests have been put to Armenia.</p>
<ul>
<li>Does it make any sense to you, that a government does not inform its own parliament of such momentous proposals?</li>
<li>There are no opposition parliamentarians in the critical security and defense committees of parliament. Are these reports by the secretary of national security credible, when there is no substantiation to the allegations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="government-control-on-the-internet">Government Control on the Internet</h2>
<p>The Ministry of Justice is <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32197211.html">pushing a bill</a> to allow the government to censor and block information on the Internet in Armenia, during war or martial law. The MoJ said that the draft bill is in response to Pashinyan’s demand to ensure the government’s powers during a martial law situation.</p>
<p>It’s alarming how many times the government has pushed forward laws to limit freedom of speech and information, despite western NGOs and also governments open disapproval.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why are we seeing this specific bill right now?</li>
<li>Is it going anywhere? What’s the outlook for it?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="year-in-review">Year in Review</h2>
<p>Alright, let’s take an incomplete look back at 2022, and have each of us pick a highlight of the year, and a lowlight of the year.</p>
<p>Now, I’m going to be OK if you decide that the service at some restaurant, or a vacation you took was your highpoint, or low point, but in reality I’m looking for reflections from the news we have read all year.</p>
<h3 id="hovik">Hovik</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Highlight</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s national debt grew by only $1B!!!</li>
<li>They repaired the road that bypasses Goris-Kapan road. Sure the new road is narrower and goes through much tougher terrain, but hey it&rsquo;s an accomplishment. And please don’t be a party pooper and ask why the original Goris-Kapan road cannot be used.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Lowlight EVERYTHING IN 2022!</p>
<ul>
<li>Aghavno/Berdzor</li>
<li>Parukh</li>
<li>September clashes</li>
<li>Surmalu</li>
<li>Blockade of Artsakh!!! 120K-big concentration camp in progress.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="benyamin">Benyamin</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Highlight</p>
<ul>
<li>Double digit economic growth.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Lowlight</p>
<ul>
<li>Armenian government’s demoralization of the nation into feeling like it is a stateless nation.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="asbed">Asbed</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Highlight</p>
<ul>
<li>I’m not sure anything from Armenian news can be called a highlight for me in 2022, but I’m thankful for all the Artsakhtsis who remain on their ancestral lands, and fight for it.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Lowlight</p>
<ul>
<li>The September war which left over 200 Armenian soldiers dead, and many subjected to horrible crimes against humanity, rape, torture, mutilation, execution. To say this was a low point is a crazy understatement, it makes me very angry.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="2023-predictions">2023 Predictions</h2>
<ol>
<li>One prediction that you assess, in your opinion, is “highly likely to happen”, or has an 80% chance of happening.</li>
<li>One prediction that has a 50/50 chance of happening.</li>
<li>One prediction that is unlikely to, but may happen in 2023. Maybe a 20% chance of happening.</li>
</ol>
<h3 id="high-likelihood">High Likelihood</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong> - A new Military escalation along Armenia - azerbaijan international border</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - New war.</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong> - I think that the Russia-Ukraine war will yield to a political or diplomatic phase in 2023.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="5050">50/50</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Nikol Pashinyan’s motorcade, which got refreshed last year, might get some new luxury additions!!</li>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong> - 50/50 chance of a power shuffle in the Kremlin. I’m thinking mostly about the defense minister, etc.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong> - Ukraine war continues without any new agreements. Armenia and Artsakh continue current status quo without new agreements with Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="unlikely">Unlikely</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Asbed</strong> - Small chance that a Kremlin power shuffle could reach the top and end up with Putin’s removal or departure.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Nikol Pashinyan’s removal and trial for treason. Despite my greatest wishes.</li>
<li><strong>Benyamin</strong> - Peace agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/197/thumbnail-197.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/197/thumbnail-197.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11976272-reflections-on-artsakh-blockade-is-russia-pressuring-armenia-to-join-union-state-bill-to-control-internet-during-martial-law-highlights-and-lowlights-of-2022-predictions-for-2023-ep-197-jan-1-2023.mp3" length="27718902" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2306</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Karen Vrtanesyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 19
[EP196]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/196-karen-vrtanesyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-19/</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2022 21:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11952812-karen-vrtanesyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-19-ep-196-dec-30-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>196</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Karen Vrtanesyan: Artsakh Under Blockade - Day 19</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - Dec 30, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan), expert on military and warfare strategies with a focus on Armenia and its neighboring region. Co-founder of the website razm.info.
***"This is not a humanitarian crisis. This is a political crisis, a crisis of statehood. -Karen Vrtanesyan***"
#### Topic:
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 196 | Recorded: December 30, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan), expert on military and warfare strategies with a focus on Armenia and its neighboring region. Co-founder of the website razm.info.
***"This is not a humanitarian crisis. This is a political crisis, a crisis of statehood. -Karen Vrtanesyan***"
#### Topic:
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 196 | Recorded: December 30, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan), expert on military and warfare strategies with a focus on Armenia and its neighboring region. Co-founder of the website razm.info.
***"This is not a humanitarian crisis. This is a political crisis, a crisis of statehood. -Karen Vrtanesyan***"
#### Topic:
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 196 | Recorded: December 30, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="how-did-we-get-here">How did we get here?</h3>
<p>Karen, we are now on Day 19 of the blockade. There are continuing reports of shortages and depleted supplies.</p>
<h4 id="question">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>How do you think we got here?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-defense-readiness">Armenia’s Defense Readiness</h3>
<p>Some politicians and analysts, such as Avetik Chalabyan, say that without engaging the military, Armenia will not be able to unblock the corridor.</p>
<ul>
<li>Does Armenia have the capacity to engage in military operations to unblock the corridor? Are there other means, for instance flying airlifts to Stepanakert?</li>
</ul>
<p>How about Syunik specifically? For nearly 30 years, the Syunetsi had lived in peace, the nearest enemy soldier being hundreds of kilometers away. After the 44-day war, this situation changed drastically. During the September 13 attacks, your hometown of Kapan, along with Goris, Jermuk, Vardenis, and others were targets of heavy shelling.</p>
<p>As a result of the fighting, Armenia’s brittle border security situation has become even worse.</p>
<h4 id="questions">Questions:</h4>
<ul>
<li>As a military expert, can you tell us how prepared is Armenia to withstand an Azerbaijani-Turkish attack whose goal would be to capture Syunik?</li>
</ul>
<p>We’ve read a lot of finger pointing about what our traditional allies are refusing to furnish weapons to Armenia; we’ve also read about Armenia’s purchase of Indian weaponry.</p>
<ul>
<li>What has been done to rearm the army?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h3>
<p>Two days ago Armen Grigoryan, Armenia’s NSC head made some bombshell announcements on Armenian Public TV, including that Russia is pressuring Armenia to join the Union State with Russia and Belarus. He further said that Armenia’s democracy and desire to stay sovereign has brought war closer to Armenia. Spokesperson for Putin, Dmitry Peskov, has denied this and <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32195524.html">called</a> the statement provocative.</p>
<p>Of course, during the same interview where Grigoryan made that bombshell statement, he also told a small fib, that EU monitors have not left Armenia. Go figure!</p>
<h4 id="question-1">Question:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Some say that this type of behavior, especially doing it in such a public forum as Armenian Public TV, is meant to discredit the Russians. What is your reaction to all of this?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/196/thumbnail-196.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/196/thumbnail-196.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11952812-karen-vrtanesyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-19-ep-196-dec-30-2022.mp3" length="22801190" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1896</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Benyamin Poghosyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 16
[EP195]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/195-benyamin-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-16/</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11937973-benyamin-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-16-ep-195-dec-27-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>195</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Benyamin Poghosyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 16</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - Dec 27, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan), Chairman of the Yerevan based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
***"Aliyev's strategy is 'no Armenians, no problems'. What is our strategy?" -Benyamin Poghosyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 16th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 195 | Recorded: December 27, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan), Chairman of the Yerevan based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
***"Aliyev's strategy is 'no Armenians, no problems'. What is our strategy?" -Benyamin Poghosyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 16th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 195 | Recorded: December 27, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan), Chairman of the Yerevan based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
***"Aliyev's strategy is 'no Armenians, no problems'. What is our strategy?" -Benyamin Poghosyan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 16th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 195 | Recorded: December 27, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="azerbaijans-strategy">Azerbaijan’s Strategy</h3>
<p>Benyamin, you’re probably one of the most frequent guests of our podcast and I remember having many conversations with you regarding the geopolitical developments between Azerbaijan and Armenia since the end of the 44 day war.</p>
<p>When <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/106-zoom-for-democracy-domestic-regional-politics-artsakh-independence-at-30-ep-106-dec-12-2021/">a year ago</a> you were telling us that the government in Armenia believes “that Artsakh is lost and the maximum that these people can hope for is to live in de-jure Azerbaijan but de-facto Russian controlled protectorate”, part of me didn’t want to believe that despite the writing on the wall.</p>
<p>Well right now, Russian troops are still in Artsakh, but for more than 2 weeks, citizens of the Armenian 2nd republic are under siege and blocked in.</p>
<p>So, can you tell us what you think Azerbaijan’s plan maximum and plan minimum are in all of this? Obviously coercive negotiation tactics are being employed, but what I want to know is:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who is the target? Artsakh or Armenia?</li>
<li>What are the specific goals? Forgetting about status or perhaps corridors through Syunik?</li>
<li>Who is doing the coercion? Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia, or any combination of those?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="relations-with-the-west">Relations with the West</h3>
<p>While the relations with Russia have been tanking, Armenia is publicly making gestures towards the west. At least in words, there’s a lot of support for Armenia by Western powers. It was interesting to read the words of the Czech ambassador to Armenia who <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32187660.html">said</a>:</p>
<pre><code>_“...we, as Europe and the Czech Republic, haven’t abandoned Armenia…It doesn’t mean that we are going to save you, that’s what you need to understand and what I want to emphasize. We are not going to save you, you know. But we are going to do our best to help you get over this mess.”_
</code></pre>
<p>French parliamentarian Valerie Boyer, a staunch supporter of Armenia and Artsakh <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Th7o62_FI">lamented</a>:</p>
<pre><code>_“Why did we hold Francophonie in Yerevan. Why did we tell Armenians that they’re our brothers and sisters, when we were going to let them remain alone with their dictatorial neighbors?”_
</code></pre>
<p>So I’m guessing a lot of words of encouragement, concern, thoughts and prayers from the West. But no weapons! However, as you know, the spy chiefs from both the US, as well as the UK have recently visited Yerevan. Richard Moore, the head of MI6 met with Pashinyan on December 16. Notably this interaction was between Moore and Pashinyan alone.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the West’s offer to ensure the security of Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="predictions">Predictions</h3>
<p>I know giving predictions is a thankless task. However, as it is end of year I have to ask, what does the future hold for the war in Ukraine and for the region?</p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/195/thumbnail-195.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/195/thumbnail-195.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11937973-benyamin-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-16-ep-195-dec-27-2022.mp3" length="19125750" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1590</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Yeghia Tashjian | Artsakh Blockade | Relations with Russia | Role of the Armenian Government | Draft 'Peace' Proposals | Weekend Protests in Artsakh
[EP194]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/194-yeghia-tashjian-artsakh-under-blockade-relations-with-russia-protests-in-stepanakert/</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11935940-yeghia-tashjian-artsakh-blockade-relations-with-russia-weekend-protests-in-artsakh-ep-194-dec-25-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>194</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Yeghia Tashjian | Artsakh Blockade | Relations with Russia | Role of the Armenian Government | Draft 'Peace' Proposals | Weekend Protests in Artsakh</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review for December 25, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topic:
* The Artsakh Blockade
* The Role of the Armenian Government
* Relations with Russia
* Latest Draft of "Peace" Proposal
* Weekend Protests in Artsakh
Episode 194 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topic:
* The Artsakh Blockade
* The Role of the Armenian Government
* Relations with Russia
* Latest Draft of "Peace" Proposal
* Weekend Protests in Artsakh
Episode 194 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian)
#### Topic:
* The Artsakh Blockade
* The Role of the Armenian Government
* Relations with Russia
* Latest Draft of "Peace" Proposal
* Weekend Protests in Artsakh
Episode 194 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the past two weeks now, we’ve been covering the Artsakh blockade almost daily in our podcasts and videos, so let’s take a step back from the daily trauma, and look at the drivers behind the crisis.</p>
<p>We know that the Russian peacekeepers have been put in a very precarious position by the Turkish-Azeri alliance, which is taking advantage of a time when Russia is tied up dealing with its war in Ukraine and needs to play soft with them in order to not open additional fronts in the global Russia-West conflict. I’d like to ask a two tiered question:</p>
<ul>
<li>How is Russia doing?</li>
<li>What is your assessment of the job that the Russian peacekeepers are doing around Artsakh during this crisis?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="role-of-the-armenian-government">Role of the Armenian Government</h3>
<p>Mostly, the Armenian government has been on a global diplomatic offensive during the Artsakh blockade. Last Monday the UN security council convened at Armenia’s <a href="https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N22/589/61/PDF/N2258961.pdf?OpenElement">request</a> to discuss the situation in Artsakh. We heard a lot of <a href="https://asbarez.com/what-un-security-council-members-said-about-lachin-blockade/">statements from UNSC members</a> bemoaning the crisis, urging the reopening of the Lachin corridor, but what we didn’t hear was condemnation of Azerbaijan or resolutions by the UNSC mandating remediation.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why didn’t Armenia introduce a draft resolution, despite having the right to do so as a party to the discussion?</li>
<li>What role should the Armenian government be playing in overcoming this crisis?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="relations-with-russia">Relations with Russia</h3>
<p>Russia’s statement at the UNSC was particularly neutral, perhaps even pro-Azerbaijani. Russia portrayed the blockade as more of a <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2022/12/21/Armenian-speaker-Russia/2772556">conflict</a> over mining rights, and not a violation of the November 2020 tripartite statement.</p>
<p>Then on Friday, a meeting of the FMs of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia was scheduled in Moscow, and the agenda was to continue negotiations over this so-called “peace deal”, but Ararat Mirzoyan bailed out at the last moment. So it was just Lavrov and Bayramov who met, and it was clear that Lavrov was pretty pissed.</p>
<ul>
<li>Some analysts praise Mirzoyan’s snub of Lavrov &amp; Bayramov as a sign of newfound independence. Do you agree with the move?</li>
<li>The relations with Russia are not good. Where are they headed?</li>
</ul>
<p>I found one thing that Lavrov said notable: he blamed Armenians for not allowing the Azerbaijani so-called protesters access to the Kashen mine, maybe hinting that previously there was an agreement to do so. My thought all along has been: what is there to talk about allowing Azerbaijan to see the mines in Artsakh? Artsakh is its own country. And Artsakh’s official stance is that, on their part, they want to inspect mines that recently fell under Azerbaijani control.</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think there’s been a deal to allow Azerbaijan to inspect Artsakh’s structures, operations, etc?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenias-peace-proposal">Armenia’s “Peace Proposal”</h3>
<p>As we noted earlier, Armenian FM Mirzoyan did not go to Moscow on Friday, but instead Armenia officially forwarded its latest draft peace proposal to Azerbaijan. Mirzoyan indicated that if Azerbaijan accepts the latest draft then a peace treaty can be signed before the end of year. In fact, today and tomorrow Pashinyan is in Moscow to attend the informal CIS meeting.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is being discussed in this latest draft of the so-called “peace plan”?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="weekend-rallies-in-artsakh">Weekend Rallies in Artsakh</h3>
<p>Yesterday, Sunday, there were <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32192899.html">mass rallies in Artsakh</a>. Tens of thousands turned out to demand freedom of movement and reopening of their link with Armenia. The rallies were organized by the government, and state minister Ruben Vardanyan addressed the protestors. He said: <em>“I’m here, I’m fighting and I’m not going to leave or obey Azerbaijan’s conditions.”</em></p>
<p>At the same time, Just this past week Pashinyan’s former FM Zohrab Mnatsakanyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099748.html">said</a> that “Remedial Secession” is now a necessity for Artsakh.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is being expected from Ruben Vardanyan as the state minister of Artsakh Republic?</li>
</ul>
<p>Some western-leaning observers <a href="https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/the-kremlins-unorthodox-sway-over-south-caucasus-politics/">think</a> that Ruben Vardanyan was “parachuted” into Artsakh to take over as a Russian operator, sort of in the manner of Bidzina Ivanishvili in Georgia a decade ago. They think that as Ivanishvili overcame Saakashvili, so now Vardanyan is sent to overcome Pashinyan.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to note how virulently negative Azerbaijan’s leadership and press have been towards Vardanyan. They write everything from calling him a Russian puppet, to discussing his assassination! (of course, nobody holds them accountable for such public expressions of terrorism).</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan so rabidly anti-Vardanyan? What are they afraid of?</li>
</ul>
<p>Jeyhun Bayramov last week said that Artsakh officials used to be a lot more cooperative before Vardanyan was appointed minister of state.</p>
<ul>
<li>What has changed in Artsakh’s approach with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Do you see Artsakh breaking away from Armenia’s foreign policy, and pursue its own self-determination? How?</li>
<li>Diplomatically speaking, is Recognition of Artsakh a possibility? How would it alter the course of Artsakh’s cause? (Do you support this?)</li>
<li>Does Armenia have the capacity to engage in military operations today</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Yeghia - Lebanese currency joyride</li>
<li>Hovik - Insensitive, insolent Armenian leadership. And their wives.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/194/thumbnail-194.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/194/thumbnail-194.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11935940-yeghia-tashjian-artsakh-blockade-relations-with-russia-weekend-protests-in-artsakh-ep-194-dec-25-2022.mp3" length="27807419" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2313</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 15
[EP193]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/193-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-15/</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 22:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11933908-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-15-ep-193-dec-26-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>193</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 15</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - Dec 26, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), an MP from the Hayastan (Armenia) alliance and member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF Dashnaktsutyun). In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture.
***"The Armenian authorities are trying to bury the issue of status of Artsakh" -Arthur Khachatryan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 15th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very seriou
s humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 193 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), an MP from the Hayastan (Armenia) alliance and member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF Dashnaktsutyun). In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture.
***"The Armenian authorities are trying to bury the issue of status of Artsakh" -Arthur Khachatryan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 15th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very seriou
s humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 193 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan), an MP from the Hayastan (Armenia) alliance and member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF Dashnaktsutyun). In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture.
***"The Armenian authorities are trying to bury the issue of status of Artsakh" -Arthur Khachatryan***
#### Topic:
More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh) due to Azerbaijan’s blockade of the Lachin corridor, as this crisis enters its 15th day.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very seriou
s humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 193 | Recorded: December 26, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="snub-to-russia">Snub to Russia</h3>
<p>Let’s begin our discussion with what transpired on Friday the 23rd, in Moscow. The foreign ministers of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia were originally scheduled to meet in a trilateral meeting there, and the agenda was about the so-called “peace negotiations” between Azerbaijan and Armenia.</p>
<p>Russian foreign minister Lavrov announced to the media that Ararat Mirzoyan canceled at the last minute, and so only Azerbaijan’s Jeyhun Bayramov and Lavrov met.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your take on this apparent snub of Lavrov and Bayramov by Mirzoyan?</li>
<li>Some argue that it is an indication of newfound independence. Your thoughts?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="role-of-the-armenian-government">Role of the Armenian Government</h3>
<p>Mostly, the Armenian government has been on a global diplomatic offensive during the Artsakh blockade. Last Monday the UN security council convened at Armenia’s request to discuss the situation in Artsakh. We heard a lot of statements from UNSC members bemoaning the crisis, urging the reopening of the Lachin corridor, but what we didn’t hear was condemnation of Azerbaijan or resolutions by the UNSC mandating remediation.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why didn’t Armenia introduce a draft resolution, despite having the right to do so as a party to the discussion?</li>
<li>Aren’t the 120K technically also citizens of Armenia? What role should the Armenian government be playing in this crisis?</li>
</ul>
<p>On Saturday, the Foreign Ministry slammed Ilham Aliyev for the statements he made during a meeting with people from so-called “western Azerbaijan”. Our MFA stated:</p>
<pre><code>_“...aggressive actions carried out by Azerbaijan against the people of Nagorno Karabakh are part of the consistent policy of ethnic cleansing of the people of Nagorno Karabakh.”_
</code></pre>
<p>Yet despite such statements, Pashinyan’s foreign policy continues to pursue solutions that leave Artsakh inside Azerbaijan. Additionally, Pashinyan’s government exerts pressure on the Armenian parliament to NOT include statements that promote the right of Artsakh to determine its own fate, and consummate its independence.</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you help us make sense of Pashinyan’s foreign policy towards Artsakh, and their “era of peace” agenda in general?</li>
<li>What do you think about “Remedial Secession” which Pashinyan’s team has in the past argued should be Armenia’s strategy? Just this past week Pashinyan’s former FM Zohrab Mnatsakanyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099748.html">said</a> this is now a necessity.
<ul>
<li>What is the international legal basis for Remedial Secession?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Some politicians and analysts, such as Avetik Chalabyan, say that without engaging the military, Armenia will not be able to unblock the corridor. What can Armenia do?</p>
<ul>
<li>Does Armenia have the capacity to engage in Military operations?</li>
<li>Diplomatically speaking, is Recognition of Artsakh a possibility? How would it alter the course of Artsakh’s cause? (Do you support this?)</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="role-of-the-armenian-opposition">Role of the Armenian Opposition</h3>
<p>Your alliance, the Hayastan (or Armenia) Alliance, and generally the parliamentary opposition has been very publicly critical of how Pashinyan and his team are handling this crisis, and the cause of Artsakh in general.</p>
<ul>
<li>At times like this, does internal criticism of Pashinyan weaken the hand of Pashinyan’s government and reduce their latitude in negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<p>The opposition repeatedly says that a critical requirement to reverse the country’s downhill slide since the disastrous loss in the 44-day war is regime change. The Armenian opposition held rallies in the spring of 2022 trying to unseat Pashinyan. Yet, these efforts were not successful.</p>
<ul>
<li>Has the opposition conducted a “lessons learned” to understand what went right, what went wrong, and how to move forward from that movement?
<ul>
<li>What were the primary reasons why the opposition failed?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>While regime change was not achieved, some analysts said that the opposition&rsquo;s movement did alter the course of the negotiations, because Pashinyan had to backtrack on some plans and explain to negotiators and the enemy that regardless of what he would agree to, “the Armenian people” were clearly expressing diverging views on the streets. Can you discuss?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="weekend-rallies-in-artsakh">Weekend Rallies in Artsakh</h3>
<p>Yesterday, Sunday, there were <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32192899.html">mass rallies in Artsakh</a>. Tens of thousands attended to demand freedom of movement and reopening of their link with Armenia. The rallies were organized by the government, and state minister Ruben Vardanyan addressed the protestors.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to note how virulently negative Azerbaijan’s leadership and press has been towards Vardanyan. They discuss everything from calling him a Russian puppet, to assassinating him! (of course, nobody holds them accountable for such terroristic public expressions)</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is being expected from Ruben Vardanyan as the state minister of Artsakh Republic?</li>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan so rabidly anti-Vardanyan?</li>
</ul>
<p>Jeyhun Bayramov last week said that Artsakh officials used to be a lot more cooperative before Vardanyan was appointed minister of state.</p>
<ul>
<li>What has changed in Artsakh’s approach with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Do you see Artsakh breaking away from Armenia’s foreign policy, in pursuit of its self-determination? How?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/193/thumbnail-193.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/193/thumbnail-193.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11933908-arthur-khachatryan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-15-ep-193-dec-26-2022.mp3" length="25694196" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2138</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Edgar Elbakyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 13
[EP192]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/192-edgar-elbakyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-13/</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11928030-edgar-elbakyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-13-ep-192-dec-24-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>192</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Edgar Elbakyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 13</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Conversations on Groong - Dec 24, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Edgar Elbakyan](/guest/eelbakyan), a political scientist and social thinker based in Yerevan, Armenia. He is a co-founder of the [Armenian Project](https://armenianproject.com/) non-profit organization, which contributes to enhancing Armenian national civil society.
***"The problem is not resources or power, the problem is how you put forward your goals"***
#### Topic:
The blockade of Artsakh is now 13 days old. More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). Supermarket shelves are empty. Essential medicine is running out.
On Friday, December 23, that’s yesterday, a meeting between Bairamov and Lavrov was held in Moscow without participation from Ararat Mirzoyan. We’ll talk about that among other things.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 192 | Recorded: December 24, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Edgar Elbakyan](/guest/eelbakyan), a political scientist and social thinker based in Yerevan, Armenia. He is a co-founder of the [Armenian Project](https://armenianproject.com/) non-profit organization, which contributes to enhancing Armenian national civil society.
***"The problem is not resources or power, the problem is how you put forward your goals"***
#### Topic:
The blockade of Artsakh is now 13 days old. More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). Supermarket shelves are empty. Essential medicine is running out.
On Friday, December 23, that’s yesterday, a meeting between Bairamov and Lavrov was held in Moscow without participation from Ararat Mirzoyan. We’ll talk about that among other things.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 192 | Recorded: December 24, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Edgar Elbakyan](/guest/eelbakyan), a political scientist and social thinker based in Yerevan, Armenia. He is a co-founder of the [Armenian Project](https://armenianproject.com/) non-profit organization, which contributes to enhancing Armenian national civil society.
***"The problem is not resources or power, the problem is how you put forward your goals"***
#### Topic:
The blockade of Artsakh is now 13 days old. More than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). Supermarket shelves are empty. Essential medicine is running out.
On Friday, December 23, that’s yesterday, a meeting between Bairamov and Lavrov was held in Moscow without participation from Ararat Mirzoyan. We’ll talk about that among other things.
This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress.
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 192 | Recorded: December 24, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="ararat-mirzoyan---no-show">Ararat Mirzoyan - no show</h3>
<p>On Friday, December 23, 2022 there was supposed to be a meeting in Moscow between the foreign ministers of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia. This was originally intended to be used for the negotiations on a so-called “peace deal” between Azerbaijan and Armenia.</p>
<p>Russian foreign minister Lavrov announced to the media that Ararat Mirzoyan had canceled at the last minute, and therefore only Jeyhun Bayramov and Lavrov met in Moscow. Lavrov stressed that diplomatic channels were not used for coordination and that they learned from Armenia’s MFA announcement. Meanwhile, according to Channel 5, the Armenian side did not cancel the meeting and had only requested to move the meeting to a later date.</p>
<p>While the Armenian government is declaring that the Lachin (or Berdzor) corridor is the responsibility of the Russian peacekeepers and attacking the Russians for not employing force to remove the fake environmentalists, Azerbaijan is also openly attacking Russia. The fake environmentalists are constantly provoking the Russian peacekeeping contingent.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your take on this apparent snub of Lavrov and Bayramov by Mirzoyan?</li>
<li>Do you think Mirzoyan should have gone to Moscow to continue these sham “peace negotiations”? (why?)</li>
</ul>
<p>At the meeting with Bayramov, Lavrov was openly using pro-Azeri talking points it seems, when he blamed Armenians for not allowing the Azerbaijani so-called protesters access to the Kashen mine, alleging that previously there was an agreement.</p>
<p>The Armenian response has been clear that these mines should be inspected by international bodies that have trust from both sides. Ruben Vardanyan in an interview with Ian Bremmer <a href="https://www.gzeromedia.com/what-s-happening-now-in-nagorno-karabakh">said</a> that the demands of the so-called eco-activists put unacceptable conditions and requirements, thus leading to impasse.</p>
<ul>
<li>In general, what functions and responsibilities does the Russian peacekeeping contingent have?</li>
<li>One of the most critical human rights, the right of free movement is being denied by Azerbaijan. And here is Lavrov talking about ecological concerns. Why?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ruben-vardanyan-factor">Ruben Vardanyan factor</h3>
<p>During that joint conference in Moscow, Bayramov in his turn attacked Artsakh state minister Ruben Vardanyan, saying that the sooner Vardanyan leaves the region the better. Bayramov said that before Vardanyan, the authorities in Artsakh were more cooperative.</p>
<p>Previously Aliyev had accused Vardanyan of having been sent to Artsakh by Russia, and Lavrov took time in the meeting to deny any connection between Russia and Vardanyan.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate Ruben Vardanyan&rsquo;s tenure so far?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="at-the-precipice-of-genocide">At The Precipice of Genocide?</h3>
<p>While our government is busy pointing fingers, Azerbaijan is talking about Artsakh, then Zangezur, Sevan, then Yerevan, all without tanks.</p>
<p>According to the <a href="https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf">Convention on Prevention of Genocide</a>, one of the definitions of Genocide is any activity “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part” against for example an ethnic or national group.</p>
<p>Even <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099713.html">Pashinyan has said</a> that Azerbaijan is planning a genocide against Artsakh Armenians. Others say that this is already in progress.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe that a new genocide of the Armenians is in progress?</li>
<li>Instead of complaining about Russia, what should Armenia do? What would you do?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/192/thumbnail-192.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/192/thumbnail-192.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11928030-edgar-elbakyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-13-ep-192-dec-24-2022.mp3" length="28301955" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2356</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Varuzhan Geghamyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 11
[EP191]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/191-varuzhan-geghamyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11/</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 04:57:22 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11921228-varuzhan-geghamyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11-ep-191-dec-22-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>191</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Varuzhan Geghamyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 11</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Dec 22, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>> ***"Turkish threats are going to disappear only when there is no Armenia" - Varuzhan Geghamyan*** #### Guest: * [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan) #### Topic: * We continue our coverage of the crisis in Artsakh by developments in the UN Security Council as well as Turkish and Iranian concerns in the region. * More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today is the 11th day of the crisis. * This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between __ANN/Groong__ and __168 Hours__ aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. #### Links: * 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) * ANN/Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 191 | Recorded: December 22, 2022</itunes:summary><description>> ***"Turkish threats are going to disappear only when there is no Armenia" - Varuzhan Geghamyan*** #### Guest: * [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan) #### Topic: * We continue our coverage of the crisis in Artsakh by developments in the UN Security Council as well as Turkish and Iranian concerns in the region. * More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today is the 11th day of the crisis. * This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between __ANN/Groong__ and __168 Hours__ aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. #### Links: * 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) * ANN/Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 191 | Recorded: December 22, 2022</description><googleplay:description>> ***"Turkish threats are going to disappear only when there is no Armenia" - Varuzhan Geghamyan*** #### Guest: * [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan) #### Topic: * We continue our coverage of the crisis in Artsakh by developments in the UN Security Council as well as Turkish and Iranian concerns in the region. * More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today is the 11th day of the crisis. * This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between __ANN/Groong__ and __168 Hours__ aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. #### Links: * 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) * ANN/Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 191 | Recorded: December 22, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="show-notes">Show notes</h2>
<h3 id="update-on-numbers">Update on Numbers</h3>
<p>As we are recording this discussion, more than 120,000 people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). For 11 days, Azerbaijan has brazenly blocked all traffic to and from Artsakh, hindering delivery of critical supplies. Yesterday, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) intervened to transport one cardiac patient to Yerevan. Naturally the Azerbaijani authorities are now cynically using the video of that Red Cross truck crossing the corridor as evidence that they haven’t blocked anything.</p>
<p>Another individual was not so lucky. We were very sad to hear on Monday that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100035.html">one patient died</a> in the hospital in Stepanakert, because it was impossible to get them through the blockade in time, and there are additional patients who are still unable to find proper care.</p>
<p>There’s a lot to say about the humanitarian side of this crisis. Let’s talk for a moment about the politics driving this.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is the role of the Armenian government in securing the safety of 120,000 of our compatriots in Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="internationalization-of-the-artsakh-cause">Internationalization of the Artsakh Cause</h3>
<p>On Monday, the United Nations Security Council met at Armenia’s <a href="https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N22/589/61/PDF/N2258961.pdf?OpenElement">request</a> to discuss the situation in Artsakh. We heard a lot of statements from UNSC members bemoaning the crisis, demanding the reopening of the Lachin corridor, but what we didn’t hear was condemnation of Azerbaijan or resolutions by the UNSC demanding remediation.</p>
<p>One statement, however, drew particular Armenian criticism. Many in Armenia and Artsakh found the Russian statement to be artificially neutral or even pro-Azerbaijani. Specifically, Russia portrayed the blockade as not a violation of the November 9-10 tripartite statement but a mere adjacent issue that is being dealt with. Furthermore, in the eyes of <a href="https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2022/12/21/Armenian-speaker-Russia/2772556">some</a>, Russia downplayed the situation by declaring that the blockade started due to conflicts over mining rights, when Armenians know the final goal of Baku is to appropriate and depopulate Artsakh.</p>
<p>Varuzhan, we know that the Russian peacekeepers have been put in a very precarious position by the Turkish-Azeri alliance, which is taking advantage of a time when Russia is tied up dealing with its war in Ukraine, and needs to play soft with them in order to not open additional fronts in the global Russia-West conflict.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Given the current global “great games”, what is your expectation from the UNSC towards Armenia, if any?</li>
<li>Do you think the involvement of Russian peacekeepers could drive some western powers to politicize the issue within the UNSC?</li>
<li>Are Russia’s hands completely tied?</li>
</ul>
<p>You are of course aware that Richard Moore, the UK spy chief, <a href="https://caliber.az/en/post/131394/">was in Yerevan</a> and had a discussion with Pashinyan last week.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why would the chief of MI6 visit Armenia, and why at this time?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-uchr-decision">The UCHR decision</h3>
<p>The European Court of Human Rights on Wednesday ordered Azerbaijan to enable “essential travel” between Artsakh and Armenia.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Same question here: any expectations from court decisions, which have no force function to make these decisions stick? Who would do what, if Azerbaijan simply ignores the decision?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-role-of-the-armenian-government">The Role of the Armenian Government.</h3>
<p>Let’s talk about the Armenian government&rsquo;s role for a moment.</p>
<p>A couple of days ago security council secretary Armen Grigoryan claimed that the government, with its activities, is showing that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100088.html">Armenia remains the guarantor of Artsakh’s security</a>, yet at the same time said that the Lachin corridor is the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100077.html">responsibility of the Russian peacekeepers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you help us make sense of these statements?</li>
<li>How do you assess the Armenian government’s performance in the negotiations with Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<p>Even if the Armenian government were fully convinced that they have no responsibility beyond whipping and berating the Russian peacekeepers, many analysts agree that closing Lachin is the first step by the Turkish-Azeri alliance towards forcing Armenia to relinquish Artsakh, and then agree to the so-called Zangezur corridor. A <a href="https://azertag.az/xeber/Azerbaycan_ehalisi_Zengezur_dehlizinin_yaxin_zamanda_achilacagina_inanir___Sorgu-2412164">recent poll</a> in Azerbaijan reportedly indicates that 63% of Azeris believe that the corridor is essentially a done deal; it will happen.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Some analysts say that Armenia has <a href="https://168.am/2022/12/20/1812854.html">levers</a> and opportunities that it is choosing not to use. What options does the Pashinyan government have, that it is not exercising?</li>
<li>Why has Pashinyan and his government washed its hands of Artsakh?</li>
<li>What should the government be doing that they’re not doing?</li>
<li>What’s in it for Armenia, if Pashinyan’s math is fulfilled?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="at-the-precipice-of-genocide">At The Precipice of Genocide?</h3>
<p>While our government is busy pointing fingers, Azerbaijan is talking about Artsakh, then Zangezur, Sevan, then Yerevan, all without tanks.</p>
<p>According to the <a href="https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf">Convention on Prevention of Genocide</a>, one of the definitions of Genocide is any activity “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part” against for example an ethnic or national group.</p>
<p>Even <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099713.html">Pashinyan has said</a> that Azerbaijan is planning a genocide against Artsakh Armenians. Others say that this is already in progress.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe that a new genocide of the Armenians is in progress?</li>
<li>Is there, at this point, the possibility of a positive outcome? How?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/191/thumbnail-191.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/191/thumbnail-191.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11921228-varuzhan-geghamyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11-ep-191-dec-22-2022.mp3" length="29401634" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2446</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aram Orbelyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 11
[EP190]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/190-aram-orbelyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11/</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 02:53:21 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11920739-aram-orbelyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11-ep-190-dec-22-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>190</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Orbelyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 11</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Aram Orbelyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>> ***"Current Armenian government blames everyone, but themselves, Azerbaijan and Turkey." -Aram Orbelyan*** #### Guest: * [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), an international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014. #### Topic: This is Day 11 of the complete blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today we will dive deep into the UN Security Council process. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 190 | Recorded: December 23, 2022</itunes:summary><description> > ***"Current Armenian government blames everyone, but themselves, Azerbaijan and Turkey." -Aram Orbelyan*** #### Guest: * [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), an international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014. #### Topic: This is Day 11 of the complete blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today we will dive deep into the UN Security Council process. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 190 | Recorded: December 23, 2022</description><googleplay:description> > ***"Current Armenian government blames everyone, but themselves, Azerbaijan and Turkey." -Aram Orbelyan*** #### Guest: * [Aram Orbelyan](/guest/aorbelyan), an international law specialist, who is an attorney and managing partner at Concern Dialog law firm, and PhD in Public international law. Mr. Orbelyan lectures at the Academy of Advocates of the Republic of Armenia, and lectured public international law at French University of Armenia. Mr. Orbelyan was Deputy Minister of Justice of Armenia between 2011 and 2014. #### Topic: This is Day 11 of the complete blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. More than 120 thousand people, including 30 thousand children, are under siege. Today we will dive deep into the UN Security Council process. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 190 | Recorded: December 23, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="show-notes">Show notes</h2>
<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="united-nations">United Nations</h3>
<p>On Monday, the United Nations Security Council met at Armenia’s <a href="https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N22/589/61/PDF/N2258961.pdf?OpenElement">request</a> to discuss the situation in Artsakh. We heard a lot of statements from UNSC members bemoaning the crisis, demanding the reopening of the Lachin corridor, but what we didn’t hear was condemnation of Azerbaijan or resolutions by the UNSC demanding remediation.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In general, what tools does the UN Security Council have to compel Azerbaijan to open the Lachin (or Berdzor) corridor?</li>
</ul>
<p>Despite any resolutions and a clear condemnation of Azerbaijan, Armenian authorities seem to be very happy with the results - specifically about some statements that named Azerbaijan as the culprit.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why didn’t the security council vote on a resolution?</li>
<li>Who has the ability to table resolutions? Could Armenia have tabled it?</li>
<li>How binding are UNSC resolutions?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/190/thumbnail-190.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/190/thumbnail-190.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11920739-aram-orbelyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-11-ep-190-dec-22-2022.mp3" length="36916078" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3072</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hayk Mamijanyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 10
[EP189]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/189-hayk-mamijanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-10/</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 20:31:50 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11914079-hayk-mamijanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-10-ep-189-dec-21-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>189</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hayk Mamijanyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 10</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Hayk Mamijanyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>> ***"Armenia has to draw a red line - Artsakh can never be part of Azerbaijan" -Hayk Mamijanyan*** #### Guest: * [Hayk Mamijanyan](/guest/hmamijanyan) is the leader of the oppositional Pativ Unem (With Honor) alliance in the Armenian National Assembly, and a member of the Republican Party of Armenia (RPA). #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 189 | Recorded: December 21, 2022</itunes:summary><description> > ***"Armenia has to draw a red line - Artsakh can never be part of Azerbaijan" -Hayk Mamijanyan*** #### Guest: * [Hayk Mamijanyan](/guest/hmamijanyan) is the leader of the oppositional Pativ Unem (With Honor) alliance in the Armenian National Assembly, and a member of the Republican Party of Armenia (RPA). #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 189 | Recorded: December 21, 2022</description><googleplay:description> > ***"Armenia has to draw a red line - Artsakh can never be part of Azerbaijan" -Hayk Mamijanyan*** #### Guest: * [Hayk Mamijanyan](/guest/hmamijanyan) is the leader of the oppositional Pativ Unem (With Honor) alliance in the Armenian National Assembly, and a member of the Republican Party of Armenia (RPA). #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: [https://168.am](https://168.am) - Groong: [https://podcasts.groong.org](https://podcasts.groong.org) Episode 189 | Recorded: December 21, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="russia-and-unsc">Russia and UNSC</h3>
<p>Here we are on Day 10 of the Artsakh Blockade that Azerbaijan has imposed on 120,000 of our compatriots.</p>
<p>The Russian peacekeepers were put in a very precarious position when Azerbaijan blocked the Lachin corridor with pretend “eco-environmental” protesters (in reality they’re fully controlled by the government of Azerbaijan). The Turkish-Azeri alliance took advantage of a time when Russia is tied up dealing with their war in Ukraine, and needs to manage some unsavory relationships that it needs right now; specifically: Turkey.</p>
<p>We know that overnight there was a UN Security Council session.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate the UNSC session and specifically Russia’s statement there?</li>
<li>What can Russia do to remove the blockade? What are the constraints on Russia in dealing with this crisis?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-role-of-the-armenian-government">The Role of the Armenian Government</h3>
<p>Yesterday the parliament had a heated discussion, or rather, we should say, <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32185056.html">heated arguments</a> about the role, and current effort of the Armenian government in dealing with the current crisis in Artsakh.</p>
<p>It is interesting to listen to security council secretary Armen Grigoryan claim that the government, with its activities, is showing that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100088.html">Armenia remains the guarantor of Artsakh’s security</a>, and at the same time say that the Lachin corridor is the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100077.html">responsibility of the Russian peacekeepers</a>.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you help us make sense of these statements?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s government seems to be content mostly with just complaining to sympathetic Western diplomats or politicians, but there is no real action to deal with this blockade, and no preparation to resist further violence. And so far, as we’ve seen from yesterday’s UNSC discussion about Artsakh and the Lachin corridor, there are “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100154.html">calls</a>” and “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100152.html">hopes</a>” and “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100155.html">expectations</a>” that Azerbaijan will open the corridor for traffic, but no condemnations or resolutions against Azerbaijan, in response to Armenia’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099684.html">speeches</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100156.html">addresses</a> to the UNSC.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is the role of the Armenian government in securing the safety of 120,000 of our compatriots in Artsakh?</li>
<li>Let’s be fair and ask the same about the opposition: What do you think is the role of the opposition in securing Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p>As a super-minority opposition, meaning that the ruling party has a super-majority and does not need to hear from the opposition, you can’t really do much in the parliament.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>So why aren’t there 100,000 people demonstrating against this government on the streets of Yerevan?</li>
</ul>
<p>As we noted, so far the UNSC hasn’t made any meaningful or consequential moves to protect Artsakh.</p>
<ul>
<li>Can the Armenian government rely on the international community in the absence of any UNSC resolutions, or robust military assistance and presence supporting Armenia?</li>
<li>Even with a sympathetic public and leadership, physically speaking, what could the US, or France or the EU do to help Armenia in its current, immediately dangerous situation?</li>
<li>Is it even in the political and economic interests of “The West” to help Armenia, at a time when they’re locked in a strategic war with its traditional ally and patron, Russia?</li>
</ul>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11914079-hayk-mamijanyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-10-ep-189-dec-21-2022.mp3" length="28807887" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2396</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tevan Poghosyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 9
[EP188]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/188-tevan-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9/</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 04:40:12 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/i11908420-tevan-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9-ep-188-december-20-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>188</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 9</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Tevan Poghosyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>> ***“Pashinyan, why don't you go and shake Artak Beglaryan’s hand, like you did in Shushi in 2019” - Tevan Poghosyan*** #### Guest: * [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 188 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</itunes:summary><description> > ***“Pashinyan, why don't you go and shake Artak Beglaryan’s hand, like you did in Shushi in 2019” - Tevan Poghosyan*** #### Guest: * [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 188 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</description><googleplay:description> > ***“Pashinyan, why don't you go and shake Artak Beglaryan’s hand, like you did in Shushi in 2019” - Tevan Poghosyan*** #### Guest: * [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. This interview is a continuation of the collaboration between Groong and 168 Hours aiming to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 188 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="artsakh-blockade-day-9">Artsakh Blockade Day 9</h3>
<p>Here we are on Day 9 of the Artsakh Blockade that Azerbaijan has imposed on 120 thousand of our compatriots.</p>
<p>The Turkish-Azeri alliance took advantage of a time when Russia is tied up dealing with their war in Ukraine, and needs to manage some unsavory relationships that it needs right now; specifically: Turkey.</p>
<p>So the Russian peacekeepers were put in a very precarious position when Azerbaijan blocked the Lachin corridor with pretend “eco-environmental” protesters. There are reports that these demonstrators are intelligence and defense workers and they’re in fact under the protection of Azeri police and defense forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What can Russia do to remove the blockade? What are the constraints on Russia in dealing with this crisis?</li>
<li>How do you assess the job that the peacekeepers are doing?</li>
<li>What should the peacekeepers do that they are not doing?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-role-of-the-armenian-government">The Role of the Armenian Government</h3>
<p>Pashinyan’s government seems to be content mostly with just complaining to any sympathetic European and American diplomat or politician, but there is no real action on their part to deal with this blockade, except making the most possible noise in blaming the Russian peacekeepers for a failure to secure the Lachin corridor.</p>
<p>Regardless of blame, we were very sad to hear yesterday (Monday) that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100035.html">one patient died</a> in the hospital in Stepanakert, because it was impossible to get him through the blockade in time. There are additional ICU patients and children who need immediate care beyond what’s available in Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is the role of the Armenian government in securing the safety of 120,000 of our compatriots in Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan’s government would have the Armenian people believe that the West will ride into the South Caucasus to save the Armenians. The US, the French, the EU.</p>
<ul>
<li>Can the Armenian government rely on the international community when fundamental UN international order is <a href="https://a1plus.am/hy/article/446325">not observed</a> in our region?</li>
<li>Even with a sympathetic public and leadership, physically speaking, what could the US, or France or the EU do to help Armenia in its current, immediately dangerous situation?</li>
<li>Is it even in the political and economic interests of “The West” to help Armenia, at a time when they’re locked in a strategic war with its traditional ally and patron, Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lachin-zangezur-sevan-yerevan">Lachin, Zangezur, Sevan, Yerevan</h3>
<p>Many analysts believe that closing Lachin is the first step by the Turkish-Azeri alliance towards forcing Armenia to relinquish Artsakh, and then agree to the so-called Zangezur corridor. They talk about Zangezur, then Sevan, then Yerevan, all without tanks. A <a href="https://azertag.az/xeber/Azerbaycan_ehalisi_Zengezur_dehlizinin_yaxin_zamanda_achilacagina_inanir___Sorgu-2412164">recent poll</a> in Azerbaijan apparently indicates that 63% of Azeris believe that the corridor is essentially a done deal; it will happen. And articles in their press say that Artsakh understands that soon <a href="https://caliber.az/en/post/130866/">there will be Azeri police in Stepanakert</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the plan and strategy behind Azerbaijan’s blockade?</li>
<li>Why has Pashinyan and his government washed its hands of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/i11908420-tevan-poghosyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9-ep-188-december-20-2022.mp3" length="30720350" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2556</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arman Tatoyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 9
[EP187]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/187-arman-tatoyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9/</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 20:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11908028-arman-tatoyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9-ep-187-december-20-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>187</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arman Tatoyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 9</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Arman Tatoyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>> ***"This is the policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the people of Artsakh” -Arman Tatoyan*** #### Guest: * [Arman Tatoyan](/guest/atatoyan), is the former ombudsman of the Republic of Armenia. Currently actively pursues human rights for Armenians in the republics of Armenia and Artsakh, especially through his foundation, the “Tatoyan” Center for Law and Justice. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. As we are recording this discussion, more than 120 thousand people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). For 9 days, Azerbaijan has brazenly blocked all traffic to and fro, hindering delivery of food and critical supplies. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 187 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</itunes:summary><description> > ***"This is the policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the people of Artsakh” -Arman Tatoyan*** #### Guest: * [Arman Tatoyan](/guest/atatoyan), is the former ombudsman of the Republic of Armenia. Currently actively pursues human rights for Armenians in the republics of Armenia and Artsakh, especially through his foundation, the “Tatoyan” Center for Law and Justice. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. As we are recording this discussion, more than 120 thousand people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). For 9 days, Azerbaijan has brazenly blocked all traffic to and fro, hindering delivery of food and critical supplies. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 187 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</description><googleplay:description> > ***"This is the policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the people of Artsakh” -Arman Tatoyan*** #### Guest: * [Arman Tatoyan](/guest/atatoyan), is the former ombudsman of the Republic of Armenia. Currently actively pursues human rights for Armenians in the republics of Armenia and Artsakh, especially through his foundation, the “Tatoyan” Center for Law and Justice. #### Topic: This is Day 9 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. As we are recording this discussion, more than 120 thousand people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). For 9 days, Azerbaijan has brazenly blocked all traffic to and fro, hindering delivery of food and critical supplies. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 187 | Recorded: December 20, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="update-on-numbers">Update on Numbers</h3>
<p>As we are recording this discussion, more than 120 thousand people remain trapped in the Republic of Artsakh (or Nagorno-Karabakh). For 9 days, Azerbaijan has brazenly blocked all traffic to and fro, hindering delivery of food and critical supplies. Yesterday, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) intervened to transport one cardiac patient to Yerevan, which the protesters did let through. Naturally the Azerbaijani authorities are now cynically using the video of that Red Cross truck crossing the corridor as evidence that they haven’t blocked anything.</p>
<p>Another individual was not so lucky. We were very sad to hear yesterday (Monday) that <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1100035.html">one patient died</a> in the hospital in Stepanakert, reportedly because it was impossible to get them through the blockade in time. There are additional individuals in need of more specialized medical care, who are still in Stepanakert.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Dr. Tatoyan, as lawyer and Armenia’s former human rights ombudsman, can you describe what is the responsibility of the blockading side here. Both in terms of the right of free movement of people and specifically related to the need to get medical care?</li>
</ul>
<p>We learned today that the United Nations Security Council is due to meet at Armenia’s request. This apparently is the second meeting as on Saturday there was a closed meeting held at the request of France.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your expectation from the UNSC meeting?</li>
<li>Do you think that the involvement of Russian peacekeepers is sure to tempt some UNSC members to politicize the issue?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="petitioning-the-west">Petitioning the West</h3>
<p>Last Thursday, on December 15, the European Court made a decision regarding the request to apply interim measures submitted by Armenia the previous day. The Court decided to give Azerbaijan time until Monday, December 19, at 4:00 p.m. (French time) to send a response to Armenia&rsquo;s request, after which the Court would make a final decision.</p>
<p>The office of the representative of Armenia on international legal issues appealed to the ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights, yesterday, demanding the application of interim measures against Azerbaijan and obliging the latter to unblock the Berdzor (Lachin) corridor.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What decision will the Court make?</li>
<li>Can Azerbaijan be forced to open the road?</li>
<li>In case of non-compliance, will sanctions be applied, and what kind of sanctions can they be? Who would apply them?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-role-of-the-armenian-government">The Role of the Armenian Government.</h3>
<p>The Armenian authorities place the entire responsibility for unblocking the Berdzor-Lachin corridor on the Russian peacekeeping contingent.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think is the role of the Armenian government in securing the safety of 120,000 of our compatriots in Artsakh?</li>
<li>Can the Armenian government rely on the international community when fundamental UN international order is <a href="https://a1plus.am/hy/article/446325">not observed</a> in our region?</li>
</ul>
<p>Even if the Armenian government were fully convinced that they have no responsibility beyond whipping and berating the Russian peacekeepers, many analysts agree that closing Lachin is the first step by the Turkish-Azeri alliance towards forcing Armenia to relinquish Artsakh, and then agree to the so-called Zangezur corridor. They talk about Zangezur, then Sevan, then Yerevan, all without tanks. A <a href="https://azertag.az/xeber/Azerbaycan_ehalisi_Zengezur_dehlizinin_yaxin_zamanda_achilacagina_inanir___Sorgu-2412164">recent poll</a> in Azerbaijan apparently indicates that 63% of Azeris believe that the corridor is essentially a done deal; it will happen.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you assess the Armenian government’s performance in the negotiations with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Why has Pashinyan and his government washed its hands of Artsakh?</li>
<li>How do you assess the job of the Russian peacekeepers?</li>
<li>What should the peacekeepers do that they are not doing?</li>
</ul>
<p>Even <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099713.html">Pashinyan has said</a> that Azerbaijan is planning a genocide against Artsakh Armenians. Others say that this is already in progress.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe that a new genocide of the Armenians is in progress?</li>
<li>Is there, at this point, the possibility of a positive outcome? How?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="pows-and-negotiations">POWs and Negotiations</h3>
<p>Pashinyan’s government seems to be content with just complaining to any sympathetic European and American diplomat or politician, but there is no real action on their part to bring our prisoners of war, hostages in Azerbaijan, these are people who have been brutalized and often subjected to torture.</p>
<p>In a conversation a couple of days ago, Siranush Sahakian asserted that there are 113 prisoners who have not returned home, yet Nikol Pashinyan continues to repeat Ilham Aliyev&rsquo;s claim that there are 39 POWs, and hasn’t done more than a periodic statement about our POWs. In fact, Hungary has done more than the Armenian government, arranging for the return of 5 of our POWs, in a bid to pander to Pashinyan to re-establish diplomatic relations with Armenia, following the ax-murderer Ramil Safarov’s release.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you comment on the state of our POWs, and the current negotiations to return them to their families?</li>
<li>How many POWs do you estimate are in Azerbaijan still?</li>
<li>Should our government continue pandering for peace with Aliyev, while our POWs are still there? I mean, Azerbaijan has not fulfilled even the first point in the November statement about an all-for-all release of POWs!</li>
<li>Has the Armenian government started a legal process within the framework of the Hostage Convention, because when the court decision was made in connection with Armenia’s submission, which also included the issue of the return of captives, the UN International Court of Justice (ICJ) refused to examine the issue, stating that it cannot be examined within the framework of the CERD standards, the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.</li>
</ul>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11908028-arman-tatoyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-9-ep-187-december-20-2022.mp3" length="31272396" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2602</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Hrant Mikaelian: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 8
[EP186]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/186-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-under-blockade-day-8/</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11900616-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-under-blockade-day-8-ep-186-dec-19-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>186</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Hrant Mikaelian: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 8</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A Conversation With Hrant Mikaelian
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest: * [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute. > ***"The full state-led attack against Artsakh and Armenia, which no-one in Europe condemned, was a case where the military solution worked. From 2020 onwards, many actors in the world see that you can attack and get away with it."*** #### Topic: This is Day 8 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. 120 thousand people are effectively being held hostage by the regime in Baku. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 186 | Recorded: December 19, 2022</itunes:summary><description> #### Guest: * [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute. > ***"The full state-led attack against Artsakh and Armenia, which no-one in Europe condemned, was a case where the military solution worked. From 2020 onwards, many actors in the world see that you can attack and get away with it."*** #### Topic: This is Day 8 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. 120 thousand people are effectively being held hostage by the regime in Baku. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 186 | Recorded: December 19, 2022</description><googleplay:description> #### Guest: * [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian), a political scientist and multidisciplinary researcher in social sciences based in Yerevan. He is also a senior researcher at the Caucasus Institute. > ***"The full state-led attack against Artsakh and Armenia, which no-one in Europe condemned, was a case where the military solution worked. From 2020 onwards, many actors in the world see that you can attack and get away with it."*** #### Topic: This is Day 8 of the blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. 120 thousand people are effectively being held hostage by the regime in Baku. Groong and 168 Hours are continuing our collaboration to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious humanitarian crisis in progress. We are all in this together for the benefit of an informed Armenian public in these challenging times. For those of you who haven’t heard of Groong before, we invite you to visit Groong’s podcast website at podcasts.groong.org to learn more and to subscribe. If you’re watching this on Youtube, the link will also be available in the description. For Groong listeners, please visit 168.am for in-depth news and analysis. Links: - 168 Hours: https://168.am - Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org Episode 186 | Recorded: December 19, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="weekend-update">Weekend Update</h3>
<p>Late last week, after even resorting to the step of disrupting the flow of gas that goes through a pipeline from Yerevan to Stepanakert, the gas flow was restored. State minister Ruben Vardanyan indicated that the transportation blockade could also be lifted soon, however, as of now the Berdzor (or Lachin) corridor is still closed.</p>
<p>This land corridor is the only way people can move to and from Artsakh, and at this time the free movement of people to and from Artsakh is prevented by Azerbaijan. Stepanakert has an airport which could be used to airlift supplies from Armenia, but Azerbaijan has threatened to shoot down any aircraft that uses Artsakh airspace.</p>
<p>Some <a href="https://twitter.com/Aeternum7/status/1604728905889464320?s=20&amp;t=IDKnLPxkgLi6Yw92BvwcSA">factoids</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>120,000 people are collectively held hostage</li>
<li>Out of those 30 thousand children, 20 thousand elderly, and 9 thousand disabled</li>
<li>350 people with disabilities and health issues are deprived of their right to seek medical care in Yerevan</li>
<li>11 people are in intensive care units in Stepanakert, <a href="https://168.am/2022/12/19/1812270.html">including 10 children</a>. Four of the ICU patients are in CRITICAL condition.</li>
</ul>
<p>Food and supplies are running out, especially medical supplies including infant formula.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Anything I missed?</li>
<li>Some people were hopeful that the corridor would be opened given an impending deadline given to Baku by the European Court of Human rights.</li>
<li>Why is the Berdzor (or Lachin) corridor still closed?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="echr-deadline-eu-fetes-aliyev">ECHR Deadline, EU Fetes Aliyev</h3>
<p>Last week, Armenia had applied to the European Court of Human Rights <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/735153.html">seeking</a> an “interim measure” (or in other words an injunction) against Azerbaijan demanding the opening of the lifeline.</p>
<p>The ECHR had given Azerbaijan until today, Monday, 4pm Central European Time which expires in a few hours. So far, there’s no indication that even this deadline will make Azerbaijan move.</p>
<p>Instead, over the weekend, EU’s Ursula Von der Leyen was in Baku to celebrate an agreement to <a href="https://ankakh.com/hy/article/116238">supply</a> electricity from Azerbaijan to Europe via an undersea cable.</p>
<p>We have more than a hundred thousand people starving and locked up, but not a single EU official made a statement about this.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>What lessons can be drawn from this deafening silence?</li>
<li>Can you talk a little more about this electric cable? How much energy is meant to be supplied by this mode?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="armenian-silence">Armenian Silence</h3>
<p>As a reminder, Artak Beglaryan, former Human Rights ombudsman of Artsakh and currently acting deputy state minister, is conducting a round-the-clock sit-in in front of the UN mission in Armenia. In fact, Hrant, I ran into you at that protest and I think you’d agree with me that the turnout, while very dedicated, was not that great.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Given that recent polls indicate that more than 90% of Armenians in Armenia are against Artsakh (Karabakh) being part of Azerbaijan, how do you explain the apathy and lack of physical engagement from the wider population?</li>
</ul>
<p>I keep bringing this up. Here we are, condemning the silence of the EU, but as some of our viewers and listeners remind us, what is the government in Armenia doing?</p>
<p>I mean, there is a lot of criticism that can be thrown at this government for its failures in diplomacy, leading to the war. For the horrible execution of the war, leading to the devastating Armenian loss. We can blame them for further diplomatic missteps that only intensify the conditions of living hell that we are living through since then.</p>
<p>But just now, with the handling of this crisis, couldn’t the government in Armenia have done a better job in putting pressure on the EU office here for instance?</p>
<p>The government in Armenia has immense information resources. The Public TV channel which is now being used every day to criticize Russia reaches every corner of Armenia? Couldn’t they afford more coverage of the UN protests? So that UN officials felt that immense solidarity that is obvious from polling numbers.</p>
<p>What is the intention of the Armenian government?</p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11900616-hrant-mikaelian-artsakh-under-blockade-day-8-ep-186-dec-19-2022.mp3" length="29553085" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2459</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Arthur Khachikyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 6
[EP185]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/185-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-6/</link><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2022 11:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11889923-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-6-ep-185-dec-17-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>185</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachikyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 6</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Arthur Khachikyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), PhD is an International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
#### Topic:
We’re going on to Day 6 of the Artsakh Blockade by Azerbaijan, and [Groong](https://podcasts.groong.org) and [168 Hours](https://168.am) are teaming up to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious issue, a major humanitarian crisis in Artsakh in progress.
***"We somehow have this complex. We think we’re the sleeping beauty and the west is going to come and save us. And every time that it doesn’t happen, we still keep believing in it." -Arthur Khachikyan***
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 185 | Recorded: December 17, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), PhD is an International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
#### Topic:
We’re going on to Day 6 of the Artsakh Blockade by Azerbaijan, and [Groong](https://podcasts.groong.org) and [168 Hours](https://168.am) are teaming up to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious issue, a major humanitarian crisis in Artsakh in progress.
***"We somehow have this complex. We think we’re the sleeping beauty and the west is going to come and save us. And every time that it doesn’t happen, we still keep believing in it." -Arthur Khachikyan***
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 185 | Recorded: December 17, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan), PhD is an International Relations expert from Stanford University, specializing in Intervention. He currently teaches at the Russian Armenian University in Yerevan.
#### Topic:
We’re going on to Day 6 of the Artsakh Blockade by Azerbaijan, and [Groong](https://podcasts.groong.org) and [168 Hours](https://168.am) are teaming up to bring you more English-language coverage on the developments of this very serious issue, a major humanitarian crisis in Artsakh in progress.
***"We somehow have this complex. We think we’re the sleeping beauty and the west is going to come and save us. And every time that it doesn’t happen, we still keep believing in it." -Arthur Khachikyan***
Links:
- 168 Hours: https://168.am
- Groong: https://podcasts.groong.org
Episode 185 | Recorded: December 17, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="background">Background</h3>
<p>On Monday, December 12, a group of people in civilian clothes blocked the Shushi-Qarin Tak segment of the Lachin corridor for all traffic.</p>
<p>Although this is clearly instigated by the Azerbaijani government, the official pretense is that this group of so-called “eco-activists” was demanding to inspect the Kashen gold mine in Artsakh/Nagorno Karabakh, which employs 1800 people and is one of the larger tax-payers  in Artsakh.</p>
<p>As a result, more than 120 thousand people are in a total blockade. For 2-3 days gas service was also  disrupted, before being restored again. Thousands of Artsakhtsis who were visiting Armenia are now stranded, among them children. Food, medicine, fuel are all under rations.</p>
<p>The international response has been limited to the realm of announcements. The Russian peacekeepers, while under constant harassment by the Azerbaijanis, have so far maintained their cool and are trying to negotiate a withdrawal of the Azerbaijanis, however to no avail. Usage of force to open the corridor so far has not been viewed as an option by the peacekeepers.</p>
<p>Artsakh officials stranded in Yerevan are conducting sit-ins at various embassies, especially at the UN mission. The Armenian government appears to largely have taken an observer’s position. Meanwhile, today the UN Security Council is due to hold a closed hearing on the topic.</p>
<h3 id="why-now">Why Now?</h3>
<p>Arthur, as we have discussed both on Groong and 168, Azerbaijan’s long-term strategy is to cause enough inconvenience and harassment of the Artsakh population to cause them to leave their homes, and perhaps also to populate Artsakh with Azerbaijanis creating a more demographically favorable situation for Baku.</p>
<ul>
<li>The question for the current incident is: what has led to the current altercation at this point in time? What instigated Azerbaijan to begin blocking the Lachin corridor this week?</li>
</ul>
<p>In addition to the “eco-activists”, video clips shared by Azeri media indicate that Azeri police and even special forces have now been deployed on the corridor. The initial environmental pretense has now been replaced by additional demands, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Presence of Azerbaijani state bodies (customs, ministry of state protection, etc..)  on the corridor to be stationed (in conjunction with Russian peacekeepers) at checkpoints</li>
<li>Presence of Azerbaijani border guards on the border of Armenia on the Lachin corridor</li>
</ul>
<p>None of these demands stem from the Nov. 9-10 agreement. Yesterday, we even heard calls from members of the Milli Mejlis that Russian peacekeepers must leave.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you foresee development of events in such a manner that any of these demands are met?</li>
<li>Do you believe that Armenia’s refusal to open the so-called “Zangezur” corridor (exactly based on Azerbaijan’s whims and conditions) is part of what Azerbaijan seeks to gain here?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="role-of-russian-peacekeepers">Role of Russian Peacekeepers</h3>
<p>While the ultimate goal of Azerbaijan is ridding Artsakh of Armenians, in the near and tactical terms there is a rational question of whether the current Azeri action is against Armenians or the Russians. Initially when the Azeri demonstrators began to agitate, they demanded to meet with Volkov. Now they’re talking about early termination of the Russian peacekeeping mission around Nagorno Karabakh.</p>
<p>Some analysts believe that the goal is to put pressure around the peacekeeping mission to cause an accidental flare up, an altercation, a use of force, to create a new front for Russia, in order to divide its attention and resources between Ukraine and the South Caucasus. Despite everything, the Russians have been very cool and collected in their response to the incident.</p>
<p>An Azerbaijani government pollster published the results of a poll indicating that more than 80% of Azerbaijanis would like the Russian peacekeepers to leave. This is interesting because the popularity of Russia is also waning in Yerevan, based on a recent Gallup International poll, where more than 59% of the respondents had a negative opinion of Russia’s role in the conflict.</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate the activity of Russian peacekeepers overall? Isn’t the fact that Azerbaijanis were able to sidestep the Russian peacekeepers and flood the area, even deploying military there, an indication of failure?</li>
<li>Do you believe that the behavior of Russian peacekeepers may be influenced by decisions from Moscow, for instance as a response to Armenia’s vocal criticism of Russia and CSTO (even to the point of vetoing CSTO declarations in Yerevan)?</li>
<li>Or, do you believe that the Azeri agitation is aimed at pressuring the Russians, and if so, to what end?
<ul>
<li>Are the Azeri actions in frustrated response to the diminished expectations for a so-called “peace deal” by year’s end?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="the-west">The West</h3>
<p>There’s a belief by Russian officials that the West’s intentions in Karabakh is to open a 2nd front and that the provocations on the Lachin corridor are part of this. Alternatively, if not a 2nd front, some forces in Armenia are seriously considering that Russia may be pressured to leave the region.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this even fathomable? If the unexpected were to happen and suddenly the Russian peacekeepers were to leave, what do you think would happen?</li>
<li>Are there any Western security mechanisms that could be triggered to ensure the safety of the Artsakh population?</li>
<li>Even if The West were to really wish to help Artsakh, for example if France and Macron were to wish to help secure Artsakh’s safety, could they do anything?
<ul>
<li>Why or why not?</li>
<li>This past weekend we were talking with Benyamin Poghosyan on Groong, and he mentioned that while he was in Syunik, he had interactions with young people of whom perhaps 90% thought that Armenia should leave the CSTO, that Russia is not a friend, that the West would save Armenia, help arm it, etc. In a region like Syunik, where the border villages now live within shooting range of Azerbaijan’s armed forces, where do such fallacies come from?</li>
<li>Has Armenian not learned anything from 100 years ago?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="position-of-the-armenian-government">Position of the Armenian government</h3>
<p>Over the past month or so, Pashinyan has been <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099713.html">emphasizing</a> that Azerbaijan is preparing to commit Genocide against Artsakh. He, and his government have been quite vocal about this recently. Yet, when it came to the Parliament drafting a statement to condemn the current events in the Lachin corridor, the ruling party rejected the opposition’s demand to emphasize Artsakh’s right to self-determination. The ruling party said that those views were not part of the government’s foreign policy “toolbox”.</p>
<p>Critics argue that the Armenian government is largely acting as an observer. Many times, Yerevan has said that Nagorno-Karabakh is now the responsibility of the Russian peacekeeping mission. Most recently, Armenian authorities have been <a href="https://168.am/2022/12/16/1811877.html">promoting</a> the idea that authorities in Stepanakert and Baku should negotiate directly.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is Pashinyan’s show then a boondoggle?</li>
</ul>
<p>What else could it do that it is not doing? For instance:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can Armenia attempt to airlift aid, despite Azerbaijani threats to shoot down any aircraft flying to/from Stepanakert?</li>
<li>Can Armenia withdraw from the “peace” negotiations?</li>
<li>Recognize Artsakh’s independence?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="what-happened-to-the-peace-deal">What happened to the “Peace” deal?</h3>
<p>All of this is happening in the context of ongoing negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan on peace, which is apparently being exploited by world powers and viewed more as a competitive process rather than cooperation.</p>
<p>Unofficially, there are at least 4 different approaches and formats</p>
<ul>
<li>The Azerbaijani one</li>
<li>The one mediated by Russia</li>
<li>The one mediated by the US</li>
<li>The one mediated by the EU</li>
</ul>
<p>There’s very little reliable information about what is being discussed as part of these different processes other than the reverberations we hear in the press.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Whatever happened to the “peace” process?</li>
<li>What, in your opinion, are the main points of contention now?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="st-petersburg">St. Petersburg</h3>
<p>Recently, Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s spokesperson has not excluded the possibility that there will be a (Russia-Armenia-Azerbaijan) trilateral meeting in St. Petersburg, during the next informal CIS summit?</p>
<ul>
<li>While formally Armenia has not confirmed this, what could be expected if the meeting does take place?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="un-security-council">UN Security Council</h3>
<p>Earlier this week foreign minister Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099670.html">addressed</a> the UN Security Council (UNSC), while security council chair Armen Grigorian has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099665.html">updated</a> various European governments about the situation in the Lachin corridor. And we’re aware that today the UN Security council has scheduled a closed hearing on the issue at the initiative of France.</p>
<ul>
<li>Arthur, what does the Armenian government expect from the UNSC? Is there enough solidarity within the UNSC to take appropriate action?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="international-community">“International Community”</h3>
<p>A number of government representatives from Artsakh were also stranded in Yerevan due to the blockade. Since Wednesday, a number of them, including Artak Beglaryan (Artsakh deputy state minister and former HR ombudsman) as well as Gegham Stepanyan (acting HR ombudsman) are conducting a sit-in in front of the United Nations mission.</p>
<p>There were also protests in front of all 5 permanent UN Security Council nations. Protesters even <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099768.html">demonstrated</a> in front of the Chinese embassy.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, after 3 days of sit-ins, the local Armenia-based UN Resident Coordinator, Christine Weigand, held a meeting with Beglaryan and Stepanyan. This seems to be the first time - ever - that the UN rep has agreed to meet representatives of Artsakh. Their protocol so far has been that the Karabakh issue is outside of their mandate.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>How important is this kind of activism? Is there any hope from the international community at this stage?</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile a number of Western countries, including US, France, UK, EU have called for the corridor to be re-opened, some of them explicitly condemning Azerbaijan.</p>
<ul>
<li>How effective do you think such calls can be?</li>
</ul>
<p>By the way, yesterday Nikol Pashinyan met with the head of the British spy agency, MI-6, right here in Yerevan. Earlier in the week, Armen Grigoryan, (head of the national security council) visited London where he also met with Moore.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think was talked about in these meetings?</li>
</ul>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11889923-arthur-khachikyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-6-ep-185-dec-17-2022.mp3" length="30404685" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2529</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Արցախը Շրջափակման Մեջ: Օր 4 | Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 4
[EP184]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/184-hakob-hakobyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-4/</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 23:30:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11881473-4-artsakh-under-blockade-day-4-ep-184-dec-15-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>184</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Արցախը Շրջափակման Մեջ: Օր 4 | Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 4</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Զրույց Հակոբ Հակոբյանի հետ (Արցախի Արդարություն Կուսակցություն)
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan)
«Սա պետք է ոգևորի և ոգեշնչի յուրաքանչյուր հայի և պետք է նոր թափ հաղորդի մեր այն 30 տարիների պայքարին, որը դեռևս չենք ավարտել:»
Episode 184 | Recorded: December 15, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan)
«Սա պետք է ոգևորի և ոգեշնչի յուրաքանչյուր հայի և պետք է նոր թափ հաղորդի մեր այն 30 տարիների պայքարին, որը դեռևս չենք ավարտել:»
Episode 184 | Recorded: December 15, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan)
«Սա պետք է ոգևորի և ոգեշնչի յուրաքանչյուր հայի և պետք է նոր թափ հաղորդի մեր այն 30 տարիների պայքարին, որը դեռևս չենք ավարտել:»
Episode 184 | Recorded: December 15, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="hakob-hakobyan-in-armenian">Hakob Hakobyan (in Armenian)</h2>
<p>We are now on the fourth day of this illegal blockade of Artsakh by Azerbaijan. No one can enter or leave Artsakh for 4 days and Artsakhtsis have been without gas for three days.</p>
<p>We will discuss this issue today with the leader of the Artsakh’s justice party, Hakob Hakobyan. Welcome Hakob.</p>
<p>Q: How would you describe the situation on the ground in Artsakh?</p>
<p>There have been numerous reports that in order to unblock the Lachin corridor the Azerbaijani side has demanded access to the Kashen mine. In fact, there were media reports that the rights to the Kashen mine have been sold to foreign companies.</p>
<p>Q: Is there any truth to these reports?</p>
<ul>
<li>Are you aware of any other demands?</li>
<li>How is Artsakh’s government reacting to this? Is there any negotiation currently with the Azerbaijani side on their demands?</li>
</ul>
<p>Q: Do you have any hope of the “international community” intervening? How do you see the potential of international humanitarian efforts to help Artsakh?</p>
<ul>
<li>How did you find Maria Zakharova’s statement today, where she claimed that the blockade of the road resulted due to disagreements on usage of mined ore.</li>
</ul>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11881473-4-artsakh-under-blockade-day-4-ep-184-dec-15-2022.mp3" length="2016" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24240325</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Gev Iskajyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 3
[EP183]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/183-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-3/</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11874379-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-3-ep-183-dec-14-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>183</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Gev Iskajyan: Artsakh Under Blockade: Day 3</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Gev Iskajyan
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
For three days now the campaign instigated by the government of Azerbaijan has prevented the freedom of movement of Armenians of Artsakh. Gas supplies have also been cut off.
“Artsakh is still Armenian land. Artsakh is still an independent republic. Artsakh is not gone. ... We have to hold on to what remains of this land here.” - Gev Iskajyan
Episode 183 | Recorded: December 14, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
For three days now the campaign instigated by the government of Azerbaijan has prevented the freedom of movement of Armenians of Artsakh. Gas supplies have also been cut off.
“Artsakh is still Armenian land. Artsakh is still an independent republic. Artsakh is not gone. ... We have to hold on to what remains of this land here.” - Gev Iskajyan
Episode 183 | Recorded: December 14, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan)
For three days now the campaign instigated by the government of Azerbaijan has prevented the freedom of movement of Armenians of Artsakh. Gas supplies have also been cut off.
“Artsakh is still Armenian land. Artsakh is still an independent republic. Artsakh is not gone. ... We have to hold on to what remains of this land here.” - Gev Iskajyan
Episode 183 | Recorded: December 14, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="gev-iskajyan">Gev Iskajyan</h2>
<p>We’re now talking to Gev Iskajyan, representative of the ANC in Artsakh.</p>
<p>Gev, we are now entering day 3 of the complete transportation blockade of Artsakh and the 2nd day of energy blockade.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Can you brief us about the current humanitarian situation on the ground?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is there food rationing?</li>
<li>What is the situation with schools?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Q: Are you aware of any political goals from Azerbaijan?</strong></p>
<p>As far as I’m aware, so far the EU spokesperson has called on Azerbaijan distinctly to cease the blockade. The United States has issued a similar statement. Today, the Russian peacekeepers daily report directly blamed Azerbaijan for the blockade of Artsakh. However, other organizations, for example the UN have been silent.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Overall, is the quality and quantity of these responses satisfactory?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why are they silent?</li>
<li>What are your expectations? Will words just suffice?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Q: What is your assessment on the work of the Russian peacekeepers?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are Russian peacekeepers helping with providing fuel?</li>
<li>Is food aid at least being provided by Russians?</li>
</ul>
<p>There’s been criticism that Armenian society is completely passive and there is a sense of helplessness about the situation.</p>
<p><strong>Q:  Would you agree with this? What is your call to Armenians worldwide?</strong></p>
<p>News reports from Azerbaijan indicate that the provocateurs tonight will continue their blockade.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Are there any indications that the blockade will cease anytime soon?</strong></p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11874379-gev-iskajyan-artsakh-under-blockade-day-3-ep-183-dec-14-2022.mp3" length="11539137" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>957</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Lachin Blocked | Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations | Military Exercises | Syunik
[EP182]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/182-lachin-blockade-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-military-exercises-syunik/</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2022 23:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11869859-ann-groong-week-in-review-dec-11-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>182</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Lachin Blocked | Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations | Military Exercises | Syunik</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Week in Review - Dec 11, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin Corridor Blockade
* Continuing Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Turkish-Azerbaijani Military Exercises
* Travel Impressions from the region
Episode 182 | Recorded: December 13, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin Corridor Blockade
* Continuing Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Turkish-Azerbaijani Military Exercises
* Travel Impressions from the region
Episode 182 | Recorded: December 13, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Lachin Corridor Blockade
* Continuing Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations
* Turkish-Azerbaijani Military Exercises
* Travel Impressions from the region
Episode 182 | Recorded: December 13, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="show-notes">Show notes</h2>
<h2 id="lachin-blockade---humanitarian-crisis-looming">Lachin Blockade - Humanitarian crisis looming</h2>
<p>As we already covered last week, the Lachin corridor was effectively blocked for 3 hours. This week the staged environmentalist operation resumed and at the time of this recording the corridor has been blockaded for more than 30 hours. And earlier today Azerbaijan cut gas supplies. Now there is a transportation and energy blockade, no medicine or medical aid can get in, and there are reports that medical patients are not able to urgently go to Yerevan to seek medical care.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the current situation and what is the longer game.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="continuing-armenian-azerbaijani-negotiations">Continuing Armenian-Azerbaijani Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="capital-hopping">Capital Hopping</h3>
<p>Last week we talked at length about the current state of the negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan. At this point, any expectations for a so-called “peace deal” by year-end are unlikely to come true.</p>
<p>Late in November, Ilham Aliyev pulled out of the Brussels summit, which was set for December 7th, this past week. Azerbaijan says he pulled out because of a new condition by Armenia for French president Emmanuel Macron’s participation in the negotiations, alongside Charles Michel, of the EU. Observers say that Macron has been involved from the start, and it is Aliyev who is advancing new conditions because he doesn’t like what he’s getting in Brussels, because while the EU slants pro-Azerbaijan, France is more of a balancing factor.</p>
<p>The Russians have been quick to say: Brussels is dead.</p>
<ul>
<li>“Is Brussels dead”?</li>
<li>What will happen to the EU observer mission, whose term ends in December? On Friday we read news that the <a href="https://asbarez.com/eu-will-not-extend-armenia-border-monitoring-mission/">mission will wrap</a> up on December 31.</li>
</ul>
<p>A lot of observers thought that since the conflicts in Ukraine started, Russia no longer has the bandwidth to deal with the South Caucasus. But with a single summit in November, in Sochi, Putin has brought the negotiations back to Russia essentially.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the fundamental factors that are swinging Armenia and Azerbaijan to come back to the table in Russia?</li>
<li>Does this current re-involvement indicate that Russia has essentially adapted to the ongoing war in Ukraine and in a sense, this is now a new normal for them?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past couple of months, Pashinyan had been hinting that some form of international guarantees are needed for Armenia’s security, in order to sign a peace deal in the West. There were no responses from the EU or the US.</p>
<ul>
<li>What sort of security guarantees was Armenia seeking?</li>
<li>What happened?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="draft-agreements">Draft Agreements</h3>
<p>Armenia just confirmed that they’ve <a href="https://asbarez.com/yerevan-confirms-receiving-bakus-draft-peace-treaty/">received</a> the latest draft agreement from Azerbaijan, and are <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1099149.html">working to respond</a> to it.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the current back-and-forth of drafts primarily about?</li>
</ul>
<p>This past week, Armen Grigoryan noted in the Armenian parliament that Armenia and Azerbaijan so far agree on basically one single thing: that they should have diplomatic relations, and that there are in fact no clear agreements on any other points.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you make of this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="nagorno-karabakh">Nagorno-Karabakh</h3>
<p>In another thread with Aliyev, he said that Azerbaijan is willing to talk with Karabakh but not with Ruben Vardanyan, whom he called a “Russian agent”. However, the Artsakh authorities have been in Moscow and France recently, meeting with officials in those countries.</p>
<ul>
<li>Given that Armenia seems to have politically abandoned Artsakh, Is Russia <a href="https://168.am/2022/12/07/1806957.html">changing tactics</a> to work bilaterally with Artsakh?</li>
<li>What do you think that Ruben Vardanyan brings to the table as State Minister for Artsakh? What are the expectations of him?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="turkish-azerbaijani-military-exercises">Turkish-Azerbaijani Military Exercises</h2>
<p>In the past two weeks Azerbaijan and Turkey <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32164437.html">held</a> war games all along the Iranian border, in the regions of Astara, Imishli and Jabrayil (Jrakan). The nature of these military exercises indicates that they are pointedly <a href="https://168.am/2022/12/07/1807482.html">aimed at Iran</a>. Turkish defense minister Hulusi Akar, and many high-level Turkish military leaders traveled to Azerbaijan to attend the high profile drills named “Fraternal Fist”.</p>
<p>In October Iran’s military also held drills across the border and the situation remains tense. Obviously, they’re not happy with Azerbaijan, which is reportedly giving a foothold to Israel along the border with Iran, as part of its military alliance with it; and Azerbaijan has also been trying to stir ethnic tensions in Iran’s Azeri population.</p>
<p>For us, these drills indicate that the disagreements on the issue of Armenia’s borders have not died down. Iran is unambiguous about its red line that Armenia’s borders may not change.</p>
<ul>
<li>Where do you think this military “dialogue” between Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Iran is headed?</li>
<li>Should Russia be concerned about the Turkish-Azerbaijani military alliance?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="travel-logs">Travel Logs</h2>
<ul>
<li>Hovik’s impressions of traveling around Syunik.</li>
<li>Benyamin’s impressions of traveling around Syunik.</li>
<li>Benyamin’s take-aways from discussions with international colleagues.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP181]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/181-arthur-martirosyan-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-artsakh-reshuffle-opposition/</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 11:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11827684-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-artsakh-reshuffle-opposition-ep-181-ep-179-dec-4-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>181</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations | Artsakh Reshuffle | Opposition</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Dec 7, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* CSTO Debacle
* Lavrov Bombshell
* Lachin Corridor Blockaded
* Brussels Summit Canceled
* Artsakh President Lays off Government
* Parliamentary Opposition Fragmenting
Episode 181 | Recorded: December 6, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* CSTO Debacle
* Lavrov Bombshell
* Lachin Corridor Blockaded
* Brussels Summit Canceled
* Artsakh President Lays off Government
* Parliamentary Opposition Fragmenting
Episode 181 | Recorded: December 6, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
#### Topics:
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations Continue
* CSTO Debacle
* Lavrov Bombshell
* Lachin Corridor Blockaded
* Brussels Summit Canceled
* Artsakh President Lays off Government
* Parliamentary Opposition Fragmenting
Episode 181 | Recorded: December 6, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations">Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="csto-debacle">CSTO Debacle</h3>
<p>We published a special podcast with Anna Karapetyan about the <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/180">CSTO Summit in Yerevan</a>.</p>
<p>There’ve been a few major developments in the sphere of Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations in the past two weeks, among them the CSTO summit which ended in a debacle.</p>
<p>The Armenian side vetoed a measure of “aid to Armenia” because it didn’t include condemnation of Azerbaijan’s invasion of Armenian territory. As a result the entire package of measures, including the final declaration was effectively vetoed.</p>
<ul>
<li>What happened in Yerevan, at the CSTO meeting?</li>
<li>What was Pashinyan’s goal?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lavrov-bombshell-statement-on-artsakh">Lavrov Bombshell Statement on Artsakh</h3>
<p>Going back to early November, prior to the lead-up of the trilateral meeting in Sochi, Russian President Putin had thrown some hints that Russia supports a peace treaty where the status of Artsakh is postponed for future generations.</p>
<p>This was not an accidental statement as it was also echoed by various Russian leaders afterwards. We covered this when it happened of course. And nothing substantive was reached in Sochi and a bland statement was signed underscoring points around which there was agreement, however, leaving the most important and contentious points out, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>An extension of the mandate of the Russian peacekeepers</li>
<li>Explicit mention that the status of Artsakh is not solved</li>
<li>Clarity around the status of roads connecting Azerbaijan proper with Nakhijevan (Pashinyan’s main concern, insisting that it shouldn’t have the same status as the Lachin corridor)</li>
</ul>
<p>After the CSTO debacle in Yerevan two weeks ago, Lavrov is now telling a different story.</p>
<p>When asked about the outcome of the Sochi meeting and the status of Artsakh, Lavrov said that both Armenia and Azerbaijan have agreed to base their peace agreement on the 1991 Alma Ata declaration which was the founding document for the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). He said that because Armenia and Azerbaijan had agreed to this in Prague and came to Sochi with this agreement, Russia wouldn’t be able to change anything.</p>
<p>However, Lavrov’s interpretation of this fact drew a lot of objections from Armenian circles. Lavrov said that because the Alma Ata accords include mutual recognition of the territorial integrity of the signatories, this means that Artsakh (or Karabakh) will be part of Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan will guarantee the security of its Armenian population.</p>
<p>Here we need to give some background for the Alma-Alma declaration.</p>
<p>The Alma-Ata declaration has 4 important points that the Armenians didn’t bring up or use:</p>
<ul>
<li>It hasn’t been ratified by Azerbaijan, only signed.</li>
<li>It includes a statement on self-determination.</li>
<li>There’s an argument that when Azerbaijan signed it in 1993, Artsakh had already voted to secede from Azerbaijan, so it wasn’t part of Azerbaijan at the time of its signing.</li>
<li>Armenia ratified the document with explicit reservations about the status of Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>How should we interpret Lavrov’s statement on the status of Artsakh and the apparent about-face?</li>
<li>Didn&rsquo;t the Russian leadership know the outcome of the Prague summit when they were making more positive statements about Artsakh’s status?
<ul>
<li>Would it be correct to say that the Russian statements about ambiguity in Artsakh’s status were meant to entice Armenia to go with the Russian plan? So essentially Armenia didn’t take the offer?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Doesn’t this imply that Russians would leave the region then?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lachin-corridor-blockaded">Lachin Corridor Blockaded</h3>
<p>On December 3, a group of Azerbaijanis in civilian clothing claiming to be “eco-activists” were able to block the Shushi-Karintak segment of the Goris-Stepanakert highway, effectively blockading all traffic between Armenia and Artsakh. After 3 hours of negotiations with Russian peacekeepers, including commander of the peacekeeping forces Andrey Volkov, the road was reopened, and the provocateurs continued negotiations with the Russian peacekeepers at the Russian base near Ivanyan. Azerbaijani press later <a href="https://eurasianet.org/new-nagorno-karabakh-standoff-as-azerbaijani-officials-temporarily-block-key-road">identified</a> these individuals as employees of the Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources of the Republic of Azerbaijan as well as AzerGold. The entire “blockade” operation was accompanied by Azerbaijani media, while Armenian media were not allowed to even enter the Lachin corridor from the Armenian side.</p>
<p>This was preceded by weeks of Azerbaijani reports about so-called violations on the Lachin corridor, including allegations that Armenians were transporting military equipment, including mines, and gold, which Azerbaijan claims is exploited illegally.</p>
<p>Even the alleged presence of 14 Iranians in Artsakh was brought up. All the while, the Azerbaijani government press was blasting the Russian peacekeepers in the press for using Armenian place names in their official reports.</p>
<p>At the end, there were some ambiguous statements made by the head of the Russian peacekeepers about agreeing to open a “mini-customs” checkpoint to aid in the work of the peacekeepers. Details are yet to be clarified by the Russian peacekeepers.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why did Azerbaijan temporarily close the Lachin corridor now?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="canceled-meeting-in-brussels">Canceled Meeting in Brussels</h3>
<p>Amidst all that took place, a meeting that was planned to take place this week in Brussels was canceled by Ilham Aliyev. In doing so, Aliyev said that Pashinyan had insisted that France should take part in this meeting, similar in format to the previous one in Prague, but that Azerbaijan no longer accepts this.</p>
<p>To remind our listeners, the upper house in France passed a resolution two weeks ago condemning Azerbaijan. So Aliyev’s rejection of Macron’s participation can be seen as payback.</p>
<ul>
<li>What was Pashinyan’s calculation in demanding Macron’s presence? What could Macron’s presence give Pashinyan?</li>
<li>Is there hope that there will still be a so-called “peace treaty” by the end of year, as Azerbaijan has demanded?</li>
<li>How do you see the prospect of renewed violence, if a peace deal is not signed?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-president-lays-off-government">Artsakh President Lays off Government</h2>
<p>On November 23rd, president of Artsakh Arayik Harutyunyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097945.html">dismissed</a> most of the ministers of his government. He also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097947.html">recalled</a> a bill to amend the constitution of Artsakh, pending further political consultations in the country.</p>
<p>All this came on the heels of his <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32116050.html">appointment</a> of Ruben Vardanyan as his state minister, replacing Artak Beglaryan earlier in November. Since then, there have been statements from Baku that they’re willing to talk with the Nagorno Karabakh leadership, but not with Vardanyan, whom they <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32136184.html">called</a> an agent of Moscow. Ruben Vardanyan replied that he will be the one to negotiate with Baku, and only in an internationally supported format and not a bilateral format.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why was the government in Artsakh reshuffled? Was the dismissal of the government a result of a lack of performance? Competence?</li>
<li>Was it simply to give incoming state minister Ruben Vardanyan an opportunity to set up a new government to carry out his vision?
<ul>
<li>Note: the position of state minister was augmented essentially to be a prime minister, as Ruben Vardanyan was appointed. Almost all but the defense minister report to the state minister in Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-parliamentary-opposition-fragmenting">Armenian Parliamentary Opposition Fragmenting</h2>
<p>About three weeks ago, opposition Armenia Alliance (Hayastan Dashinq) MP Aram Vardevanyan announced that he was leaving to return to his legal profession. Vardevanyan was a prominent member of the Opposition group, and a leader of the street protests which the opposition led in the spring of 2022.</p>
<p>Then two weeks ago the MPs of the Reborn Armenian (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reborn_Armenia">Վերածնվող Հայաստան</a>) party also <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32153849.html">put down their mandates</a>. A couple of them decided to stay in parliament, after having left the party, but their leader Vahe Hakobyan and 2 other members exited the parliament.</p>
<p>It was all very cordial, and no bridges were burned. Armenia Alliance leaders <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32155576.html">said</a> there was no “split” between member parties within the alliance since everyone who left also laid down their mandates (allowing them to be filled by the next on the list). And they argued that the reasons for leaving were tactical differences between the sides, regarding whether the boycott of the parliament should have been maintained or not.</p>
<p><strong>Questions</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>With the Armenian opposition now back in parliament, and some sections fragmenting, how would you currently evaluate the status quo?</li>
<li>The opposition has admitted that they failed to reach their goal of unseating Pashinyan and his government. What are their goals, going forward? How should they proceed from here on?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-participants">Topics from the Participants</h2>
<ol>
<li><a href="guests/amartirosyan">Arthur</a> - The cost of losing ethos and redemption in politics</li>
<li><a href="hosts/hovk">Hovik</a> - Government spending on lavish Christmas distractions</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11827684-armenia-azerbaijan-negotiations-artsakh-reshuffle-opposition-ep-181-ep-179-dec-4-2022.mp3" length="45638117" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>3780</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Armenia's Rocky Relationship with the CSTO | Ep. 180 - Dec 5, 2022
[EP180]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/180-anna-karapetyan-on-armenias-rocky-relationship-with-the-csto/</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 23:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11822339-armenia-s-rocky-relationship-with-the-csto.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>180</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia's Rocky Relationship with the CSTO | Ep. 180 - Dec 5, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Dec 5, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Dr. Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* What’s Armenia’s Goal in pushing the CSTO in a direction that it won’t go?
* What Came Out of the CSTO Summit in Yerevan?
* What is the Level of Trust between the CSTO and Armenia?
* How should Armenian proceed in Relations with the CSTO?
* Does Armenia have Alternatives?
Episode 180 | Recorded: December 5, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Dr. Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* What’s Armenia’s Goal in pushing the CSTO in a direction that it won’t go?
* What Came Out of the CSTO Summit in Yerevan?
* What is the Level of Trust between the CSTO and Armenia?
* How should Armenian proceed in Relations with the CSTO?
* Does Armenia have Alternatives?
Episode 180 | Recorded: December 5, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Dr. Anna Karapetyan](/guest/akarapetyan)
#### Topics:
* What’s Armenia’s Goal in pushing the CSTO in a direction that it won’t go?
* What Came Out of the CSTO Summit in Yerevan?
* What is the Level of Trust between the CSTO and Armenia?
* How should Armenian proceed in Relations with the CSTO?
* Does Armenia have Alternatives?
Episode 180 | Recorded: December 5, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="csto-summit-in-yerevan">CSTO Summit in Yerevan</h2>
<p>On Wednesday, November 23rd, Russian president Putin arrived in Yerevan to attend the CSTO Summit. It was originally announced that he would arrive a day earlier, but for whatever reasons that didn’t happen. Pashinyan had been inviting Putin to visit since earlier in the year, and Putin had originally agreed to do so, but those plans got compressed into this visit for the CSTO summit.</p>
<p>Among Armenia’s stated goals was to obtain a<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1098293.html"> clear assessment</a> of the CSTO’s support for Armenia’s sovereignty, condemning Azerbaijan’s occupation of Armenian territory. This goal was not achieved, and Pashinyan did not sign the final CSTO summit declaration.</p>
<p>This is the second time that Pashinyan has pushed the CSTO to come up with a supportive stance, and has been pushed back. Last time, in October, Pashinyan was rejected by Belarus president Lukashenko.</p>
<p>Armenia has two alliances. There is the CSTO alliance, and there is also a bilateral alliance with Russia.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Armenia’s goal in pushing the CSTO to do something, or actually just to SAY something, that it has clearly indicated it doesn’t want to, and will not do?
<ul>
<li>Note: Just before the meeting, the Vice Speaker of the Russian Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097784.html"> articulated</a> Russia’s message that helping Armenia was not up to the CSTO, but basically Russia; this was also<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1098159.html"> reiterated</a> after the meeting by the ambassador in Armenia Sergei Kopyrkin.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The CSTO is really Russia at the core. Why doesn’t Armenia simply rely on Russia, through the framework of its bilateral alliance?</li>
<li>What was achieved at this CSTO summit in Yerevan?</li>
<li>Can the CSTO be a useful alliance for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>In a previous show we discussed Lukashenko’s rude rejection of Armenia’s first push at the CSTO for support against Azerbaijan. I’m going to play semantics here for a moment: Lukashenko specifically said that Azerbaijan was headed by “absolutely<a href="https://168.am/2022/10/31/1789363.html"> our man, Ilham Aliyev</a>” and that “huge ties” with Azerbaijan could not be ignored.</p>
<p>Most people accepted that as an indication of the close ties that Azerbaijan enjoys with CSTO members. In fact, Aliyev said that Azerbaijan has more friends in the CSTO than Armenia has.</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you think that Lukashenko’s statement makes the latent implication that Pashinyan is “not our man”, perhaps hinting that the Pashinyan government is a 5th column inside the CSTO, and the result of a color revolution such as the ones in Ukraine and Georgia?</li>
<li>How should Armenia proceed with relations with the CSTO, given the dynamics we have just discussed?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/180/thumbnail-180.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/180/thumbnail-180.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11822339-armenia-s-rocky-relationship-with-the-csto.mp3" length="12911528" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1072</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian Economy | Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations | French Senate Slams Azerbaijan | Opposition Back in Parliament
[EP179]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/179-hrant-mikaelian-armenian-economy-negotiations-french-senate-slams-azerbaijan-opposition-parliament/</link><pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11744763-hrant-mikaelian-migrants-saving-the-economy-while-debt-grows-ep-179-nov-20-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>179</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian Economy | Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations | French Senate Slams Azerbaijan | Opposition Back in Parliament</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Nov 20, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* How is Armenia's Economy Doing?
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations
* French Senate Slams Azerbaijani Occupation of Armenia
* The Opposition Returns to Parliament
Episode 179 | Recorded: November 21, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* How is Armenia's Economy Doing?
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations
* French Senate Slams Azerbaijani Occupation of Armenia
* The Opposition Returns to Parliament
Episode 179 | Recorded: November 21, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
#### Topics:
* How is Armenia's Economy Doing?
* Armenia-Azerbaijan Negotiations
* French Senate Slams Azerbaijani Occupation of Armenia
* The Opposition Returns to Parliament
Episode 179 | Recorded: November 21, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="how-is-armenias-economy-doing">How is Armenia’s Economy Doing?</h2>
<h3 id="tiger-economy">Tiger Economy?</h3>
<p>Armenia’s economy is “<a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096252.html">raging forward</a>”, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096252.html">according to Pashinyan</a>. Based on statistics from the first 9 months of 2022, Armenia recorded a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095622.html">14.1%</a> growth in the economy, which is ahead of the <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096204.html">10%</a> inflation the country is predicted to experience in 2022. Pashinyan also touted <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096258.html">143,000 new jobs</a> created in Armenia since he took power in 2018, and a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096257.html">75.1%</a> increase in state budget revenues from 2018 to his projected 2023 budget.</p>
<p>So he says that Armenia has overcome the economic problems of the Covid pandemic and the war of 2020.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is not to like here?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ukraine-war-dividend">Ukraine War Dividend</h3>
<p>According to minister of finance Tigran Khachatryan, they think that Armenia’s real potential for growth in 2023 is around <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097388.html">7%</a>. I’m going to read between the lines here and say that if that potential is similar to this year, then there’s a 7% artificial boost that’s flowing into the economy as an artifice of the war in Ukraine. As a result of the influx of long, and short-term immigrants or tourists, their businesses, bank accounts, their direct expenditure in Armenia’s economy, it has led to hyper-inflation in some areas such as real estate, and common consumer basket goods.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this sustainable? What are the risks?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="fiscal-policy">Fiscal Policy</h3>
<p>The Central Bank of Armenia (CBA) has continued raising the refi rate, which now stands at 10.5% in Armenia. They <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097389.html">seek</a> to bring inflation down to around 4% in 2023, from the current 9-10% levels.</p>
<p>Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1097434.html">believes</a> that while inflation is real, it’s more of a global phenomenon, instead of being particular to the Armenian economy. So his government wants to see lower rates in order to spur on economic activity.</p>
<ul>
<li>What’s your assessment of this classic struggle between a government and its central bank? Is the CBA acting efficiently under the current circumstances?</li>
<li>Are Armenia’s fiscal and monetary policies aligned and working synergistically? Basically, is the government helping the CBA in fighting inflation?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="industry-sectors">Industry Sectors</h3>
<p>Despite all the good news announced, the Agriculture sector, which is very important in Armenia, was <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095827.html">down 0.7%.</a> I’ve seen a lot of complaints by farmers in the Armenian press about a lack of governmental support for their efforts.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, despite reports that many IT companies are losing money because of exchange rate fluctuations, the government is super bullish on the IT sector, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1094152.html">claiming</a> in 3-4 years it will become the largest sector in the Armenian economy, surpassing the mining industry. It looks like IT companies will receive some temporary tax-credits to lessen the impact of the appreciation of the Dram. But these are temporary measures and in the long term, unless the dram depreciates again, the cost of labor is now significantly higher and makes Armenian IT companies less competitive globally.</p>
<p>The IT sector is important, and we all want it to thrive, but it’s not a large part of the labor market in Armenia, at least today. Meanwhile the Agriculture sector affects a large segment of the population. So, it seems that in order to shift gears and modernize the Armenian economy, the government is applying shock treatment to the people.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are we reading this right? And if so, is the government supporting its vision with the appropriate infrastructure to support the modernization?</li>
<li>One specific complaint heard frequently is the low availability of talent. Is anything being done to address this, given that this is a long-term project?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="2023-budget">2023 Budget</h3>
<p>OK, let’s briefly talk about the <a href="https://finport.am/full_news.php?id=46813&amp;lang=3">2023 budget</a> that was proposed by the Pashinyan government, and passed by the Pashinyan parliament. The priorities of the budget are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Social assistance - Around 25% (+12%)</li>
<li>Security &amp; defense - 20% (+35%)</li>
<li>Infrastructure - 11% (+9%)
<ul>
<li>Not clear what they want here, maybe they will <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096161.html">increase</a> the number of travel agencies and hotels in Armenia.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Education and science - 10% (+10%)</li>
</ol>
<p>As we noted, the government projects 7% economic growth and has proposed a $6.4 billion spending budget, on an estimated budget revenue of $5.6 billion.</p>
<p>We are going to need to dedicate a show some time soon to drilling into this budget to understand it better.</p>
<ul>
<li>What stands out for you in this budget?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-azeri-negotiations">Armenian-Azeri Negotiations</h2>
<h3 id="after-sochi">After Sochi</h3>
<p>In the past couple of weeks, the war of words between Pashinyan and Aliyev has become sharper and more strident. While Aliyev continues the usual barrage of threats, use of force and other “era of peace” tactics, Pashinyan, who usually does not respond in kind, has come back with his own salvo accusing Aliyev of <a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyan-accuses-aliyev-of-plotting-genocide-of-armenians-in-artsakh/">plotting</a> genocide against the Armenians of Artsakh, <a href="https://radar.am/en/news/politics-2536326623/">breaching</a> their agreement to refrain from the language of threats and force, and making other <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/150047">arrogant statements</a>.</p>
<p>Most of this newfound temerity comes since the trilateral summit in Sochi, where Putin stated that the Western peace proposals left Artsakh in Azerbaijan, but Russia’s plan postponed a status definition to a future generation. Putin also achieved a trilateral statement of non-use of force, and continuation of negotiations based on the existing agreements since November 2020.</p>
<ul>
<li>Did Sochi give Pashinyan some room to maneuver vis-à-vis Aliyev and the West?</li>
</ul>
<p>In the past week US Secretary of State Blinken has called Pashinyan and Aliyev, separately, exhorting them to continue negotiations and to not miss the opportunity for settling their disputes.</p>
<ul>
<li>Has something led Blinken to believe that either Armenia or Azerbaijan is ready to give up on the Western mediated negotiations? Or negotiations, period?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="direct-negotiations-between-baku-and-stepanakert">Direct Negotiations Between Baku and Stepanakert</h3>
<p>In this phase of discussions, while Pashinyan has been repeating his determination to sign a so-called peace agreement, he’s also saying that Baku needs to talk to the Artsakh authorities and reach an agreement that is acceptable to the Armenians of Artsakh.</p>
<p>Aliyev said they’re ready to negotiate directly with Stepanakert but not with Ruben Vardanyan whom he called a Russian agent. The authorities in Artsakh have rejected a bilateral format and have insisted on an internationally mediated platform.</p>
<p>Phil Reeker <a href="https://eurasianet.org/new-armenia-azerbaijan-fighting-a-long-time-in-the-making">said</a> during congressional hearings, that there must be “internationally visible” mechanisms for direct negotiations.</p>
<ul>
<li>Can this format have any success? Is it a replacement for the OSCE MG?</li>
<li>How does this relate to the “Russian plan” which wanted to delay the status of Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="french-senate-decision">French Senate Decision</h3>
<p>Last week the French Senate nearly unanimously <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32132286.html">passed a resolution</a> on Artsakh. Among other things, it reaffirmed its previous recognition of Artsakh, called for sanctions against Azerbaijan and called for the opening of a cultural office in Stepanakert.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this development?</li>
<li>What real impact will it have on the ground, in the negotiations?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-opposition-returns-to-parliament">The Opposition Returns to Parliament</h2>
<p>The opposition has now officially <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32131468.html">resumed</a> its participation in the parliamentary discussions.</p>
<ul>
<li>Were they right to take this step?</li>
<li>How should we assess their activities?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        Conversations on Groong - Nov 14, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 as perceived by Artsakhtsis
* Update on the status of refugees
* Update on the economy of Artsakh
* Rally at the Renaissance Square
* Generating and communicating support for Artsakh
Episode 178 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 as perceived by Artsakhtsis
* Update on the status of refugees
* Update on the economy of Artsakh
* Rally at the Renaissance Square
* Generating and communicating support for Artsakh
Episode 178 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 as perceived by Artsakhtsis
* Update on the status of refugees
* Update on the economy of Artsakh
* Rally at the Renaissance Square
* Generating and communicating support for Artsakh
Episode 178 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="november-10-two-years-later-from-stepanakert">November 10, Two Years Later from Stepanakert</h2>
<p>We’re here to learn how it feels to be in Artsakh, two years after the November 2020 trilateral statement.</p>
<ul>
<li>How are Artsakh citizens processing what has transpired over the last two years since the trilateral statement of Nov 9/10?</li>
<li>Have refugees for the most part returned to their homes, where possible? Are refugees from Hadrut for instance in Stepanakert or in Armenia?</li>
<li>How has Artsakh’s economy evolved since the end of the war? How are people earning their income?</li>
</ul>
<p>Two weeks ago the Renaissance Square in Stepanakert was full with a sea of people, over a third of the population of all of Artsakh, who once again told the world that they’re not going to be subjects of geopolitical barters, that their rights of self-determination and to be part of the Armenian nation, to live on their historic land, are inalienable.</p>
<ul>
<li>Who was the addressee of that statement? Who do you think they were talking to?</li>
<li>Besides governments in Yerevan, Baku, Moscow, Washington DC, do you think it was also a call to the Armenian nation?</li>
</ul>
<p>The entire Artsakh conflict began with protests in the late 80s, where it seems like the entire population of Armenia was out in the streets. It was still the Soviet Union, but the institute of Samizdat was well-established at that point. I remember as not even a teenager going to visit our neighbor’s home to read the latest news or articles about Artsakh, often self-published and handed down from one person to another.</p>
<ul>
<li>The turnout of the Yerevan version of that protest was pretty low in comparison. Of course, the situation in 1988 is not directly comparable to now, but what do you think needs to be done better to instill confidence in Artsakhtsis that the entire Armenian nation is behind them?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        ANN Groong Week in Review - Nov 13, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 "Ceasefire"
* We’ll talk with our guests in Yerevan and Stepanakert about their perceptions of where we are in terms of ceasing fire, two years later.
* The Peace is Dead, Long Live the Peace
* We’ll talk about increased war rhetoric from Azerbaijan, threatening Armenia, Russia, Iran, and anyone else who comes to Armenia’s aid. With the pressure increasing and Aliyev’s two-month deadline approaching, we’ll investigate the possibility of renewed war.
Episode 177 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 "Ceasefire"
* We’ll talk with our guests in Yerevan and Stepanakert about their perceptions of where we are in terms of ceasing fire, two years later.
* The Peace is Dead, Long Live the Peace
* We’ll talk about increased war rhetoric from Azerbaijan, threatening Armenia, Russia, Iran, and anyone else who comes to Armenia’s aid. With the pressure increasing and Aliyev’s two-month deadline approaching, we’ll investigate the possibility of renewed war.
Episode 177 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Gev Iskajyan](/guest/giskajyan) [@GevIskajyan](https://www.twitter.com/geviskajyan)
#### Topics:
* November 10 "Ceasefire"
* We’ll talk with our guests in Yerevan and Stepanakert about their perceptions of where we are in terms of ceasing fire, two years later.
* The Peace is Dead, Long Live the Peace
* We’ll talk about increased war rhetoric from Azerbaijan, threatening Armenia, Russia, Iran, and anyone else who comes to Armenia’s aid. With the pressure increasing and Aliyev’s two-month deadline approaching, we’ll investigate the possibility of renewed war.
Episode 177 | Recorded: November 14, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="a-nov-10-retrospective-from-yerevan">A Nov 10 retrospective from Yerevan</h2>
<p>Arthur, as a diasporan who is currently in Yerevan, what does the Nov. 9/10 2020, trilateral statement mean to you?</p>
<ul>
<li>Now putting your analyst hat on, can you briefly explain what Armenians did wrong in leading up to the war, and perhaps during the war itself?</li>
<li>Was it a winnable war?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Armenian political scene is dominated by reverberations from that war. Whether it is the Feb. 2021 demands for Pashinyan’s resignation by the general chief of staff, the elections in June 2021, the hectic search for historic maps of the region to see just when did those Azeri enclaves appear inside Armenia, the statements from Armenia’s leaders that we actually haven’t been arming the army for 2 years, that somehow the Armenians of Artsakh are different kinds of Armenians who should negotiate their own fate with Baku without guarantees or support from Armenia proper. The invasions of May ‘21, Nov. ‘21, and the horrendous war of September 2022, the bloodiest fighting since the “official” end of hostilities two years ago, where more than 200 Armenian souls perished.</p>
<p>Some of the basic and only hopeful things that this cease-fire was supposed to bring us, like our POWs or even, in fact, a cease of hostilities, are like a distant dream.</p>
<p>So now, 2 years later, we are apparently on the verge of signing yet another document, this one called a “peace treaty”.  Before we go into that, which is actually the next section of our show tonight, let’s talk about the last two years.</p>
<p>Arthur, some Armenians simply say that “this is the hand we are dealt” and we must play it. Everything that is happening today is a result of our loss in the war.</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe Armenia’s post-war trajectory of reconstruction is the best we could do? What are some examples of successful post-war policy and some areas where you think that better choices existed for Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-peace-is-dead-long-live-the-peace">The peace is dead, long live the peace</h2>
<p>In other news this week, Nikol Pashinyan and Ilham Aliyev are battling it out in public statements, with Aliyev threatening Armenians, and Pashinyan accusing Aliyev of beating around the bush on the peace deal, and of preparing a genocide against the Armenians of Artsakh! Unfortunately, battle was waged with not just words. The regular cease-fire violations by Azerbaijan escalated and resulted in the wounding of an Armenian serviceman earlier this week.</p>
<p>Tensions really escalated this week with Aliyev’s speech in occupied Shushi, while the Armenian and Azerbaijani delegations were still in the air traveling back from Washington DC, last Tuesday. Aliyev’s speech was a doozy because it not only threatened Armenia but also Iran, almost explicitly, or anyone who would dare to come to Armenia’s aid for that matter.</p>
<h3 id="aliyev-to-iran">Aliyev to Iran</h3>
<p>On the Iran front, the backdrop was set by a month of escalatory rhetoric. Last week, both Iran and Azerbaijan recalled their respective ambassadors. In response to Iran’s recent overtures towards Armenia and the public reiteration of the integrity of Armenia proper being a “red line” for Iran, a number of political parties and organizations have been activated from their slumber in Baku. The Musavat party, for instance, is <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/728952.html">threatening</a> to hold a protest action on November 15 in Baku.</p>
<p>In Shushi, Aliyev essentially said that he always gets what he wants and he wants a corridor. Aliyev <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3666848.html">proclaimed</a> “we will achieve what we want, everyone knows this, and those who conduct military exercises in support of Armenia on our border should also know this. Nobody can scare us.”</p>
<p>This battle of words was also joined by State Department spokesperson Ned Price, who <a href="https://www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-november-10-2022/">called</a> Iran &ldquo;a threat to the region.&rdquo; Some people would call Iran the main actor that’s stopping Aliyev from occupying all of Syunik now.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Aliyev in a summit in Samarkand, publicly <a href="https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/diplomacy/40-million-azerbaijanis-cannot-access-education-in-native-language">complained</a> that “40 million Azerbaijanis” living outside Azerbaijan cannot learn their mother tongue.</p>
<ul>
<li>We all know a potential war is catastrophic for everyone in the region, so we have to assume that despite his oversized ego, Aliyev is rational or has rational advisors. But how far can this tension between Azerbaijan and Iran go? Do you think it might result in open warfare?</li>
<li>How can the State Department call Iran a destabilizing force, when Tehran is probably the only thing making Aliyev think twice about starting a new war?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="aliyev-to-armeniarussia">Aliyev to Armenia/Russia</h3>
<p>What was on the menu from Aliyev for Armenia and Russia? More threats of course. Aliyev’s rhetoric was the toughest to date, where he brought up several points:</p>
<ul>
<li>Said that the deadline for peacekeepers is mentioned in the November 2020 agreement (veiled threat that they won&rsquo;t renew their presence). This was accompanied by some pocket opposition groups in Baku holding protests against Russia’s peacekeeping operation.</li>
<li>Said that they so far haven&rsquo;t touched cars going through Lachin but that their patience is not limitless (veiled threat that Azerbaijan will disrupt traffic unless they get a corridor). Earlier their media reported about arms traffic through Lachin.</li>
<li>Can we now say that Aliyev did not like what took place in Sochi?</li>
<li>What actually took place in Sochi and then in Washington DC?</li>
</ul>
<p>The sides are trying to paint it as a continuation of the tripartite statement. But the Sochi declaration looks to have some key points strategically missing, when compared with the previous Prague declaration.</p>
<ul>
<li>Was Russia putting its foot down and re-taking the initiative in the Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ceasefire-violations">Ceasefire Violations</h3>
<p>New cease-fire violations by Azerbaijan</p>
<ul>
<li>In addition to bellicose rhetoric, since the meeting in Sochi, increased occurrences of ceasefire violations by Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Nov 10 - Azerbaijani forces <a href="https://rus.azatutyun.am/a/32123956.html">shot</a> and wounded an Armenian soldier on the Eastern border of Armenia with Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>Today, November 13, Arthakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman announced that for the 2nd time in a week Azerbaijan has fired at Khramort village, the latter time wounding a civilian.</li>
</ul>
<p>Where are the EU monitors?!?!? The wounding of the Armenian soldier happened within Armenia’s borders and was supposed to be exactly the type of incident meant to be observed.</p>
<p>When asked about this on H1, Pashinyan said that the EU monitors aren’t there to monitor the cease fire, that their mission is much deeper.</p>
<p>However, the EU <a href="https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/qa-eu-monitoring-capacity-armenia_en">explicitly</a> states ceasefire as one of their goals:</p>
<ol>
<li>Support confidence-building between Armenia and Azerbaijan by monitoring the adherence of both parties to the <strong>ceasefire</strong>.</li>
<li>Through regular and ad-hoc reporting the EU team will monitor the situation on the Armenian side of the internationally recognised border between Armenia and Azerbaijan. This will allow the EU to better support the work of the two parties’ border commissions.</li>
</ol>
<p>In fact, it mentions the words cease fire 3 times and explicitly mentions that one of the mandates of the EUMM is to report on ceasefire violations</p>
<p>So why didn’t the monitors issue a statement and why did Nikol Pashinyan try to cover for them?</p>
<h3 id="pashinyans-nov-10-speech-and-follow-up">Pashinyan’s Nov 10 speech and follow-up</h3>
<ul>
<li>Pashinyan’s speech on November 10
<ul>
<li>Unusually direct but 2 days late (or maybe 2 years late?)</li>
<li>Accused Aliyev of preparing for genocide in Artsakh</li>
<li>Repeated that Armenia has not agreed to give a sovereign corridor through Armenia and said that the route for a newly built road through Armenia must be based on agreements from both sides</li>
<li>Even brought up issue of POWs</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s follow-up “Q&amp;A” with H1
<ul>
<li>Said that if no guarantees are in place, then a war may start within 12 hours of signing the peace treaty. This is the first time he brings up the issue of guarantees, but didn’t he know this already?</li>
<li>Said that with Artsakh leadership&rsquo;s permission he has proposed that if Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-proposes-demilitarized-zone-nagorno-karabakh/32124504.html#0_8_10089_8766_2710_244480374">demilitarized</a> around Artsakh then the Artsakh defense army may be downgraded</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Despite all of the above, Pashinyan concluded his speech and interview by reminding Armenians that he’s committed to peace. “Long live the peace”.</p>
<ul>
<li>Where is Nikol’s promised era of peace?
<ul>
<li>If the situation is so dire, does this mean that he made all those concessions of land for naught? (e.g., verbal agreement to hand over Goris-Kapan highway)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Last time Nikol was this “direct” with Aliyev, it seems that we had the 44-day war. How likely do you see the restart of large-scale fighting, with monitors who are supposed to be somewhere monitoring the border.</li>
<li>Are you aware of what exactly Pashinyan offered to Aliyev in terms of demilitarization? What does “area surrounding Artsakh” mean? Can there be any guarantees for this?</li>
<li>Speaking of guarantees, this was the first time this week that Pashinyan talked about guarantees, in the context of signing the so-called peace treaty. It looks like he’s talking about armed peacekeepers. How realistic is this scenario?</li>
<li>Did it make sense to suggest to Aliyev to invite Turkish border guards?</li>
</ul>
<p>Let’s provide some background for our listeners.</p>
<p>Pashinyan also said something odd that wasn’t covered in the press that much. In his <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mA2_cQoNGg">address</a> to the Civil Contract party during its annual congress and re-confirmed during this “interview” with H1. He said that one of the elements of the discussion around opening communications routes is which country’s border guards would be in charge over the Armenian portion.</p>
<p>He mentioned that Azerbaijan wants Russian border guards, and they don’t want to see any Armenians as they zip through their so-called “corridor” through Armenia. He said that this is against the principle of “parity” that has been agreed and if that is the case then Armenia should also demand not to see any Azerbaijanis as they go through Azerbaijan on its roads. He didn’t stop here though which would’ve been just great. He suggested that Azerbaijan could choose any third party (except Azerbaijanis) to guard the roads for Armenians. He said Azerbaijan could even ask Turkish border guards to guard the roads in Azerbaijan since Armenians have experience seeing Turkish border guards.</p>
<ul>
<li>Was this just an innocent gaffe, like his millions of other gaffes or a pot-shot at Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="nov-10-2-years-later-from-stepanakert">Nov 10, 2 years later from Stepanakert</h2>
<p>With Gev Iskedjyan, recorded separately on November 14, 2022.</p>
<p>We’re here to learn how it feels to be in Artsakh, two years after the November 2020 trilateral statement.</p>
<ul>
<li>How are Artsakh citizens processing what has transpired over the last two years since the trilateral statement of Nov 9/10?</li>
<li>Have refugees for the most part returned to their homes, where possible? Are refugees from Hadrut for instance in Stepanakert or in Armenia?</li>
<li>How has Artsakh’s economy evolved since the end of the war? How are people earning their income?</li>
</ul>
<p>Two weeks ago the Renaissance Square in Stepanakert was full with a sea of people, over a third of the population of all of Artsakh, who once again told the world that they’re not going to be subjects of geopolitical barters, that their rights of self-determination and to be part of the Armenian nation, to live on their historic land, are inalienable.</p>
<ul>
<li>Who was the addressee of that statement? Who do you think they were talking to?</li>
<li>Besides governments in Yerevan, Baku, Moscow, Washington DC, do you think it was also a call to the Armenian nation?</li>
</ul>
<p>The entire Artsakh conflict began with protests in the late 80s, where it seems like the entire population of Armenia was out in the streets. It was still the Soviet Union, but the institute of Samizdat was well-established at that point. I remember as not even a teenager going to visit our neighbor’s home to read the latest news or articles about Artsakh, often self-published and handed down from one person to another.</p>
<ul>
<li>The turnout of the Yerevan version of that protest was pretty low in comparison. Of course, the situation in 1988 is not directly comparable to now, but what do you think needs to be done better to instill confidence in Artsakhtsis that the entire Armenian nation is behind them?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li>Arthur - Armenians, wake up!</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11695512-arthur-khachikyan-gev-iskajyan-the-nov-10-statement-two-years-on-ep-177-nov-13-2022.mp3" length="42083995" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>58:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Harut Sassounian: The HyeID project, to initiate an elected Diaspora Armenian Parliament
[EP176]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/176-harut-sassounian-hyeid-diaspora-armenian-parliament/</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11682991-the-hyeid-project-to-initiate-an-elected-diaspora-armenian-parliament-ep-176-november-13-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>176</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Harut Sassounian: The HyeID project, to initiate an elected Diaspora Armenian Parliament</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Convesations on Groong - Nov 13, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian) [@HarutSassounian](https://www.twitter.com/HarutSassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is [HyeID](https://www.facebook.com/hyeidnonprofit), what problems is it trying to address?
* Organizations and models for Diaspora representation
* Funding and operations
* Outreach to the Diaspora and the Armenian government
* Current State of the project
Episode 176 | Recorded: November 12, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian) [@HarutSassounian](https://www.twitter.com/HarutSassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is [HyeID](https://www.facebook.com/hyeidnonprofit), what problems is it trying to address?
* Organizations and models for Diaspora representation
* Funding and operations
* Outreach to the Diaspora and the Armenian government
* Current State of the project
Episode 176 | Recorded: November 12, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian) [@HarutSassounian](https://www.twitter.com/HarutSassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is [HyeID](https://www.facebook.com/hyeidnonprofit), what problems is it trying to address?
* Organizations and models for Diaspora representation
* Funding and operations
* Outreach to the Diaspora and the Armenian government
* Current State of the project
Episode 176 | Recorded: November 12, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<ul>
<li>What is the purpose of issuing HyelD cards? What are they for?</li>
<li>Why did you initiate this project? What is the purpose?</li>
<li>How will community elections take place? Who can vote and who can be a candidate?</li>
<li>Does HyelD have a budget? How is it funded?</li>
<li>What steps have been taken to disseminate the idea of this project throughout the Diaspora? The Armenian government?</li>
<li>What is the current state of the project?</li>
</ul>
<p>Website: <a href="https://www.hyeid.org/en/">HyeID.org</a></p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11682991-the-hyeid-project-to-initiate-an-elected-diaspora-armenian-parliament-ep-176-november-13-2022.mp3" length="38682275" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>53:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Border Delimitations | FMs in DC | Azerbaijan Iran Acrimony | Ruben Vardanyan Artsakh State Minister
[EP175]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/175-latest-peace-developments-ruben-vardanyan-state-minister-artsakh/</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11659177-border-delimitations-fms-meet-in-dc-azerbaijan-iran-ruben-vardanyan-ep-175-nov-6-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>175</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Border Delimitations | FMs in DC | Azerbaijan Iran Acrimony | Ruben Vardanyan Artsakh State Minister</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Nov 6, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan) [@ArthurMartirosyan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.martirosyan1)
#### Topics:
* Latest "Peace" Developments
* Border Delimitation Discussions in Brussels
* Meeting of the Foreign Ministers in DC
* Bellicose Statements Between Azerbaijan and Iran
* Ruben Vardanyan Takes Over as State Minister of Artsakh
Episode 175 | Recorded: November 8, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan) [@ArthurMartirosyan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.martirosyan1)
#### Topics:
* Latest "Peace" Developments
* Border Delimitation Discussions in Brussels
* Meeting of the Foreign Ministers in DC
* Bellicose Statements Between Azerbaijan and Iran
* Ruben Vardanyan Takes Over as State Minister of Artsakh
Episode 175 | Recorded: November 8, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan) [@ArthurMartirosyan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.martirosyan1)
#### Topics:
* Latest "Peace" Developments
* Border Delimitation Discussions in Brussels
* Meeting of the Foreign Ministers in DC
* Bellicose Statements Between Azerbaijan and Iran
* Ruben Vardanyan Takes Over as State Minister of Artsakh
Episode 175 | Recorded: November 8, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="latest-peace-developments">Latest “Peace” Developments</h2>
<p>After the negotiations and subsequent declaration in Sochi, last week negotiations and interaction around the so called “Peace” treaty between Armenia and Azerbaijan continued apace. The committees on border delimitation, which the sides have committed to complete in time for signing of the treaty, met in Brussels. Meanwhile, Bayramov and Mirzoyan flew to Washington DC to hold a meeting under the auspices of the US state dept.</p>
<h4 id="border-discussions-in-brussels">Border Discussions in Brussels</h4>
<p>Let’s talk about the border delimitation first. On Thursday November 3rd, the deputy prime ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32114472.html">met in Brussels</a> to continue discussion on delimiting the border between the two countries.</p>
<p>Following the September war, Pashinyan’s government said it is committed to signing an agreement with Azerbaijan in 2022, and in October Armen Grigoryan stated that the process of delimitation is also slated for completion in 2022.</p>
<p>Armenia and Georgia, who are actually on friendly terms with each other, have been working for more than 20 years to delimit and demarcate their border.</p>
<ul>
<li>How is it possible to delimit a border which is at least twice as long as the Armenia-Georgia one, in a few months?</li>
<li>If Moscow has said that its general staff archives are in possession of the most accurate maps of the region, why are these discussions being held in Brussels?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="foreign-ministers-in-dc">Foreign Ministers in DC</h4>
<p>Very soon after Pashinyan met with Aliyev in Sochi, foreign minister Ararat Mirzoyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32114233.html">announced</a> that he will meet with his Azerbaijani counterpart, Jeyhun Bayramov, in Washington DC this week, at the invitation of US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. That meeting took place today on November 8, 2022. Nothing public was announced other than re-affirmation of the statements in Prague and Sochi.</p>
<p>The meeting in Sochi which was organized and attended by Putin. The three parties agreed on a statement: they resigned from the use and the threat of force; they agreed to resolve issues based only on mutual recognition of each other’s territorial integrity and inviolability of borders.</p>
<p>Prior to the Sochi meeting, Russia had indicated that it would support a special mention of Artsakh in the declaration. There were also references by Pashinyan to a 15-point declaration, which would also prolong the duration of Russian peacekeeper deployment. These things didn’t happen, and Putin indicated disagreement among the sides as the reason for this.</p>
<p>Now, the sides are in Washington DC continuing their negotiations. Pashinyan says he sees no issue with this and has said that both Western and Russian proposals are acceptable to Armenia.</p>
<p>As Pashinyan himself admitted, the Western proposals foresee a recognition of Artsakh wholly as part of Azerbaijan.</p>
<ul>
<li>How can Pashinyan’s statements make sense, that both Western and Russian proposals are acceptable to Armenia?</li>
<li>From a negotiation standpoint, we see Pashinyan announcing that the Western plan that excludes the status of Artsakh, is acceptable. This is right before he flies to Moscow to negotiate a Russian plan, which might include a status for Artsakh. What is Pashinyan’s negotiating tactic here?</li>
<li>What does the failure to even mention Karabakh as a geographic location tell you about the balance of negotiating power between Russia and Azerbaijan? Does Moscow have any leverage over Baku?</li>
</ul>
<p>Last week we had Benyamin Poghosyan on our podcast, and he brought up a small nuance that I think is worthwhile exploring here. He said that EU leaders and negotiators were surprised at the “Sullivan Plan”, the name given to the Washington-backed principles, which would put a deadline on negotiations and signing of a treaty. Benyamin said that EU reps didn’t favor a hard time limit since that would essentially translate to endorsing the use of force if the deadline expires.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there a difference between what the EU wants to see, and what the US wants to see as the outcome of this process?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="bellicose-statements-between-azerbaijan-and-iran">Bellicose Statements Between Azerbaijan and Iran</h4>
<p>Over the past weeks, we have seen an increase in war rhetoric between Azerbaijan and Iran. The rhetoric preceded the massive military exercises that Iran held on its border with Armenia and Azerbaijan. After the exercises the rhetoric has reached critical levels, with Aliyev openly warning both Armenia and Iran.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, Iranian intelligence <a href="https://www.iranintl.com/en/202211070949">announced</a> that a citizen of Azerbaijan was the “main element” in directing the terrorist attack against the Shahcheragh mosque on October 26 that ended up killing 15 people.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, today on November 8, amidst nationwide celebrations in Azerbaijan over its so-called “victory” two years ago, the flag of the “South Azerbaijan Republic&rsquo;&rsquo; (which is actually Northern Iran was <a href="https://twitter.com/VoiceofSAz/status/1589942942567129089">raised</a> in Baku. The dictator of Baku meanwhile was in occupied Shushi, where he <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3666848.html">proclaimed</a> “we will achieve what we want, everyone knows this, and those who conduct military exercises in support of Armenia on our border should also know this. Nobody can scare us.”</p>
<ul>
<li>How serious is the threat of war between Azerbaijan and Iran given what we’re seeing and hearing?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ruben-vardanyan-appointed-artsakh-state-minister">Ruben Vardanyan Appointed Artsakh State Minister</h2>
<p>After weeks of public discussion, Ruben Vardanyan was appointed to the post of State Minister in Artsakh, by president Arayik Harutyunyan. Former state minister Artak Beglaryan agreed to take an advisory role to Vardanyan.</p>
<p>For Vardanyan’s tenure, the state minister’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1096469.html">portfolio</a> was augmented to include all but the Defense ministry.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Vardanyan assuming this post?</li>
<li>While we know what he has said officially, what are the real expectations of him as Artsakh’s state minister, and how does he plan to deliver?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Arthur</strong> - Lack of cohesion and unity around the cause of Artsakh.</li>
<li><strong>Hovik</strong> - Lack of urgency in Yerevan about Artsakh.</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11659177-border-delimitations-fms-meet-in-dc-azerbaijan-iran-ruben-vardanyan-ep-175-nov-6-2022.mp3" length="40373381" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arthur Khachatryan: Resistance Movement and the ‘Sulivan Plan’
[EP174]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/174-arthur-khachatryan-resistance-movement-and-the-sullivan-plan/</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11627143-arthur-khachatryan-resistance-movement-and-the-sullivan-plan-ep-174-nov-3-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>174</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arthur Khachatryan: Resistance Movement and the ‘Sulivan Plan’</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Nov 3, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan) [@Arthur.Khachatryan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.khachatryan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* Sullivan Plan vs. Russian Plan
* Upcoming Protest on November 5
Episode 174 | Recorded: November 3, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan) [@Arthur.Khachatryan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.khachatryan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* Sullivan Plan vs. Russian Plan
* Upcoming Protest on November 5
Episode 174 | Recorded: November 3, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Arthur Khachatryan](/guest/akhachatryan) [@Arthur.Khachatryan](https://www.facebook.com/arthur.khachatryan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* Sullivan Plan vs. Russian Plan
* Upcoming Protest on November 5
Episode 174 | Recorded: November 3, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="stepanakert-rally">Stepanakert Rally</h2>
<p>A day prior to the meeting, on October 30, tens of thousands of people gathered in Stepanakert’s Renaissance Square.</p>
<ul>
<li>What was the objective of the rally and was it achieved?</li>
</ul>
<p>One of the calls heard from Renaissance Square, was an appeal to the Russian Federation to continue its endeavor to ensure security of the Artsakhtsis.</p>
<ul>
<li>How much hope is there given the recent declaration in Sochi?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="sullivan-plan-vs-putins-plan">Sullivan Plan vs. Putin’s Plan</h2>
<p>In the analyst community it is common belief that there are two competing plans for signing a so-called “peace treaty” between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>The West’s plan, which Pashinyan said is also acceptable to him, involves the recognition of sovereignty of Azerbaijan over Artsakh based on the UN Charter and the 1991 Alma Ata declaration.</p>
<p>A week ago, another member of the Hayastan Dashinq, Gegham Manukyan, symbolically tore up a copy of what is commonly referred to as the “Sullivan Plan” in the Armenian National Assembly. Meanwhile, it is clear that Russia is offering its own version of principles, where Putin has given some hints that Russia would support mentioning “unique attributes” of Armenians in Karabakh as part of a peace deal. However, based on the results of the latest Sochi trilateral meeting, this position was vetoed by Azerbaijan.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the position of the opposition on how Armenia should react to the Western and Russian proposals?</li>
<li>In your discussions with your Western counterparts, do you believe that your message about self-determination of Artsakh is perceived properly by the “international community”?</li>
</ul>
<p>On October 31, Pashinyan, Aliyev and Putin met in Sochi. It became clear that the sides are far from agreeing on all issues. But they did issue a statement on whatever they could agree.</p>
<p>The statement continued to put an equal weight between Azerbaijan’s maximalist agenda of security concerns vs. humanitarian issues. The statement said that demarcation and delimitation would be done based on the 1991 Alma Ata declaration, but self determination of Artsakh (which is also part of the same declaration) is completely avoided. In fact, Karabakh is not even mentioned, and even to designate the location for peacekeepers they simply mention “the location of disposition of the peacekeepers”.</p>
<ul>
<li>How do these plans offered to us by Armenia’s Western partners differ from those of the Russian plans?</li>
<li>Some politicians have expressed the position that it is in the best interests of Armenia not to sign anything at this time. Do you agree? If so, how should Armenia respond to pressures from all sides to sign what would be qualified as another capitulation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="upcoming-protest-on-november-5">Upcoming Protest on November 5</h2>
<p>Following the protest in Stepanakert the Armenian opposition has announced a demonstration in Yerevan on November 5.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are you concerned about apathy from people?</li>
<li>What explains the long pause in opposition protests?</li>
<li>On Nov 5 will protesters be told to go home again and wait for further news?</li>
<li>Is it still the goal of the opposition to remove Nikol Pashinyan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11627143-arthur-khachatryan-resistance-movement-and-the-sullivan-plan-ep-174-nov-3-2022.mp3" length="24164504" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Rally in Stepanakert | Sullivan Plan | CSTO Security Council Convened | Trilateral in Sochi | Pashinyan in Tehran
[EP173]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/173-benyamin-poghosyan-stepanakert-rally-sullivan-plan-csto-sochi-tehran/</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11615732-stepanakert-rally-sullivan-plan-csto-meeting-sochi-trilateral-tehran-summit-ep-173-oct-30-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>173</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Rally in Stepanakert | Sullivan Plan | CSTO Security Council Convened | Trilateral in Sochi | Pashinyan in Tehran</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Oct 30, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* The Sullivan Plan
* CSTO Security Council Convened
* Trilateral Summit in Sochi
* From Sochi to Tehran
Episode 173 | Recorded: November 1, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* The Sullivan Plan
* CSTO Security Council Convened
* Trilateral Summit in Sochi
* From Sochi to Tehran
Episode 173 | Recorded: November 1, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Massive Stepanakert Rally
* The Sullivan Plan
* CSTO Security Council Convened
* Trilateral Summit in Sochi
* From Sochi to Tehran
Episode 173 | Recorded: November 1, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="stepanakert-rally">Stepanakert Rally</h2>
<p>On Sunday, in the lead-up to the October 31 meeting in Sochi, and while Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan was also in Moscow, there was probably the largest demonstration <a href="https://asbarez.com/artsakh-rises-up-tens-of-thousands-take-to-streets-to-reject-attempts-to-undermine-artsakhs-sovereignty/">rally in Stepanakert</a> since the independence movement began in 1988, an estimated 40,000 Artsakh citizens flooded the main city square to demand that Artsakh’s independence and sovereignty not be compromised through any deals that the government of Armenia signs with Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>Artsakh’s parliament also convened on Sunday, and <a href="https://asbarez.com/artsakh-parliament-reject-any-proposal-questioning-artsakhs-sovereignty/">adopted</a> a declaration that affirms its independence and rejects Armenia’s ruling party, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095997.html">Civil Contract</a>’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095997.html">policy</a> to <a href="https://asbarez.com/pashinyans-party-abandons-artsakhs-self-determination-in-favor-of-peace/">de-prioritize</a> Artsakh’s independence. Essentially this is a rejection of the “lower the bar” paradigm that Pashinyan’s been pushing since last April due to pressure from the so-called “international community”.</p>
<ul>
<li>Hovik, you were at the rally. What was the experience there?</li>
<li>What was the purpose of the rally and what was the outcome?</li>
</ul>
<p>Coinciding with the rally in Stepanakert, the Armenian opposition announced a rally in Yerevan on Saturday, Nov 5.</p>
<h2 id="csto-security-council-and-russia-armenia-relations">CSTO Security Council and Russia-Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>Before we talk about the ongoing issues related to Azerbaijan, let’s talk explicitly about the relationship between Armenia and its strategic ally Russia as I think it’ll be an important backdrop for everything else.</p>
<p>On Friday, the CSTO Security Council met to consider measures to support Armenia in its conflict with Azerbaijan. The emergency meeting was <a href="https://tass.com/politics/1528269">initiated</a> by Pashinyan.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32101839.html">Reportedly</a> Pashinyan had two demands of the CSTO:</p>
<ol>
<li>For CSTO member states to make a clear assessment of Azerbaijan’s aggression against Armenia;</li>
<li>To propose a roadmap to assist Armenia regain its territorial integrity.</li>
</ol>
<p>Neither of these demands were met, as it became clear that individual CSTO member states have valuable bilateral ties with Azerbaijan which they do not wish to harm. Uniquely outspoken was Belarus president Lukashenko, who said that Azerbaijan was headed by “absolutely <a href="https://168.am/2022/10/31/1789363.html">our man, Ilham Aliyev</a>” and that “huge ties” with Azerbaijan could not be ignored.</p>
<p>Benyamin, maybe there’s always a need to get people on the record. But the meeting clarified that the CSTO is not ready to help Armenia against Azerbaijan.</p>
<ul>
<li>Has this been a diplomatic failure for Armenia? Was the move to call this emergency CSTO security council meeting wrong?</li>
</ul>
<p>Among other things in this political sparring which we mentioned a moment ago is the <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32104279.html">banning of Russian officials</a> from Armenia. For example, long-time Armenian supporter and first deputy chairman of a committee in the State Duma, Konstantin Zatulin; and also editor in chief of Russia Today (RT), ethnic Armenian Margarita Simonyan.</p>
<ul>
<li>Was this petty politics or are there further messages intended with banning Zatulin and Simonyan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="sullivan-plan-à-la-valdai">Sullivan Plan à la Valdai</h2>
<p>In light of the signing of a partial or interim trilateral statement in Sochi, we want to also help paint a backdrop of how Russia’s competitors in the West think the Artsakh conflict should be solved.</p>
<p>At the end of September Aliyev’s foreign policy advisor Hikmet Hajiyev and Armenian National Security chair Armen Grigoryan met in DC. Some details of what was discussed or agreed upon were leaked on Telegram, but it was all unconfirmed.</p>
<p>In his speech at the latest Valdai club meeting president Putin <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32104360.html">explicitly claimed</a> that the US brokered deal requires that Armenia recognize the sovereignty of Azerbaijan over Nagorno Karabakh, apparently referring to this leaked <a href="https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan/status/1586299892581822464">document</a>, however despite Edmon Marukyan’s <a href="https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20221029/vashingtonskogo-proekta-net--marukyan-o-mirnom-dogovore-s-azerbaydzhanom-50568546.html">statement</a> that there is no such thing as a “Washington variant” Pashinyan himself admitted during his party’s annual congress that there are Western and Russian interpretations.</p>
<ul>
<li>What does the so-called “Sullivan plan” entail? What is the US offering the warring sides?
<ul>
<li>Is it “time-bound”?</li>
<li>Is there anything about the status of Artsakh?</li>
<li>How much is the EU on-board? We know they’ve agreed to monitors for a period of time, and we’ve already discussed that the timeline for the mission deliberately coincides with Azerbaijan’s deadline to sign an agreement by the end of calendar year 2022.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Now that there are a couple of variant proposals for an Armenian-Azerbaijani agreement, we’re referring to the Sullivan Plan and the Putin Plan (which is the so-called Trilateral Agreement of November 2020, etc) is this providing Armenia with some wiggle room to leverage the greater powers, and make the lesser bad option less bad?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="trilateral-summit-in-sochi">Trilateral Summit in Sochi</h2>
<p>Meanwhile, Putin arranged a summit with Aliyev and Pashinyan in Sochi, which happened yesterday, October 31. Prior to the trilateral summit, Putin met with Pashinyan and Aliyev in a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmDUzp5VE1I">bilateral</a> format. After the trilateral summit a <a href="https://168.am/2022/10/31/1789496.html">statement</a> was published.</p>
<ul>
<li>By Putin’s own admission, not all issues were agreed upon, what do you think were those outstanding issues?</li>
</ul>
<p>The statement is heavy on territorial integrity and inviolability of borders, but there’s no word on the self-determination of people. It also put an equal sign between unresolved security and humanitarian issues (including our POWs still in Baku). Even the name “Karabakh” is avoided as a location and referred to Artsakh as the “zone where peacekeepers are stationed”.</p>
<ul>
<li>What happens to Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh?</li>
<li>Does this mean Azerbaijan de-occupies Armenian territories it has invaded since the 44-day war?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="from-sochi-to-tehran">From Sochi to Tehran</h2>
<p>In other news, only yesterday IRNA <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenian_prime_minister_visits_iran_november_1_/">reported</a> that Pashinyan will visit Iran on Tuesday, November 1, and meet with Raisi!</p>
<p>On the Armenian side, Pashinyan said that he told Raisi what they talked about in Sochi. Raisi on his part said that the meeting is a breakthrough for relations between the two countries and the region. Raisi also messaged that regional problems should be solved by regional players and not outsiders. Some analysts interpret this as a shot across the bow at the EU and potentially OSCE observer missions.</p>
<p>One objective announcement from this meeting was that Iranian companies will take part in construction of the Kajaran tunnel, part of the International North-South Transport Corridor (INSTC).:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was this meeting planned? What was the reason for Raisi’s short-notice invite?</li>
<li>Granted, the Kajaran tunnel is only part of the road, but in the past you’ve been pessimistic on the importance of the North-South corridor and availability of investment to push this project through. What is your assessment about the news on INSTC and other economic announcements?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Benyamin - The top national priority is with the existential geopolitics</li>
<li>Hovik - Can Armenian AFFORD to lose Artsakh?</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP172]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/172-harut-sassounian-the-global-armenian-summit/</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11593703-the-global-armenian-summit-ep-172-oct-30-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>172</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Harut Sassounian: The Global Armenian Summit</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A conversation with Harout Sassounian
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is the background of Armenia-Diaspora relations against which this conference is taking place?
* Why did the government need this event right now, and is this the right time?
* Who was invited, who was not? Why?
Episode 172 | Recorded: October 29, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is the background of Armenia-Diaspora relations against which this conference is taking place?
* Why did the government need this event right now, and is this the right time?
* Who was invited, who was not? Why?
Episode 172 | Recorded: October 29, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guest:
* [Harut Sassounian](/guest/hsassounian)
#### Topics:
* What is the background of Armenia-Diaspora relations against which this conference is taking place?
* Why did the government need this event right now, and is this the right time?
* Who was invited, who was not? Why?
Episode 172 | Recorded: October 29, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="overview">Overview</h2>
<p>Over the course of this weekend and until Monday, there’s this <a href="https://globalarmeniansummit.am/en">Global Armenian Summit</a> conference in progress in Yerevan. The event is organized by the office of the High Commissioner for Diaspora Affairs, and invitations went out a few months ago. Reportedly there are 600 attendees <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095970.html">according</a> to Armenpress, but probably taken from the conference website.</p>
<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h3 id="global-armenian-summit">Global Armenian Summit</h3>
<ul>
<li>What is the background of Armenia-Diaspora relations against which this conference is taking place?</li>
<li>Why did the government need this event right now?</li>
<li>Diaspora parties or organizations don’t seem to be present at the event.</li>
<li>Who’s attending, in order to bill the event a “Summit”?</li>
<li>Pashinyan’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095973.html">address</a> at the conference.</li>
<li>Arayik Harutyunyan’s <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095977.html">address</a> at the conference.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our [Conversations on Groong] (/series/cog/) helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP171]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/171-arthur-khachikyan-yeghia-tashjian-monitors-russia-west-iran-armenia-relations-lebanon/</link><pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2022 00:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/monitors-russia-west-rivalry-iran-armenia-relations-lebanon-topics-ep-171-oct-23-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>171</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Monitors in Armenia | Russia-West Rivalry in South Caucasus | Armenia-Iran Relations | Israel-Lebanon Maritime Agreement | Lebanon Presidential Elections</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Oct 23, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian) [@Yeghig](https://twitter.com/yeghig)
#### Topics:
* Monitors in Armenia
* Russia-West Rivalry in the South Caucasus
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Maritime Agreement between Israel and Lebanon
* State of Lebanon’s Presidential Election</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian) [@Yeghig](https://twitter.com/yeghig)
#### Topics:
* Monitors in Armenia
* Russia-West Rivalry in the South Caucasus
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Maritime Agreement between Israel and Lebanon
* State of Lebanon’s Presidential Election</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Arthur Khachikyan](/guest/akhachikyan)
* [Yeghia Tashjian](/guest/ytashjian) [@Yeghig](https://twitter.com/yeghig)
#### Topics:
* Monitors in Armenia
* Russia-West Rivalry in the South Caucasus
* Armenian-Iranian Relations
* Maritime Agreement between Israel and Lebanon
* State of Lebanon’s Presidential Election</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="monitors-in-armenia">Monitors in Armenia</h2>
<p>A couple of weeks ago we were talking with Benyamin Poghosyan, and in his scenarios for securing the safety of Armenia, he recommended that Armenia needs to negotiate for indefinite, or at least prolonged, monitoring missions, CSTO troops, or whoever’s able to cause a dampening of Azerbaijan’s attacks on our borders.</p>
<p>It seems that Armenia is indeed negotiating for international monitors, EU, OSCE, CSTO, any presence, even civilian missions, at this stage of the negotiations with Azerbaijan, with Aliyev’s deadline of Dec. 2022 to get an agreement signed, looming on the horizon. We are explicitly avoiding calling the process with Azerbaijan a “peace agreement” because there can be no peace signed with a gun pointed to your head, no matter what Pashinyan wants to call it.</p>
<p>We all know the checkered history of peacekeeping and monitoring missions under different auspices, whether it is UN, NATO, OSCE or EU. Yet, some people are really excited about a limited 2-months monitoring mission from the EU, composed of several dozen civilian monitors.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Armenia&rsquo;s goal with EU monitors?</li>
<li>What lessons can the international community and Armenia draw from past successes and failures of international monitoring missions?</li>
</ul>
<p>We just heard the news towards the end of the week that the OSCE is sending a needs assessment team</p>
<ul>
<li>Will this result in OSCE monitors on the ground too?</li>
</ul>
<p>As if the EU and OSCE are not enough, the CSTO says it will meet soon and sending monitors to Armenia is one of the recommendations of their fact-finding team. In Astana president Putin said that Armenia, holding the presidency of the CSTO in 2022, should convene a CSTO security council meeting and request the troops it needs on its borders. This hasn’t happened for months.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the hold up? Did they have an offer of monitors much earlier than the EU, that was ignored by Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-west-rivalry-in-the-south-caucasus">Russia-West Rivalry in the South Caucasus</h2>
<p>Macron stated that Russia conspired with Turkey against Armenia. You could also hear it in US official statements including:</p>
<ul>
<li>State dept briefings: Vedant Patel (State Dept) <a href="https://www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-october-18-2022/">said</a> “The entire region should be concerned” about Russia/Iran cooperation.</li>
<li>Pallone, whom I called “friend of Armenians”, said essentially Russia has no future in the caucasus and that Armenia has to accept an autonomous status for Artsakh that was existent in Soviet times, in an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq955at1kE">interview</a> on H1.</li>
</ul>
<p>Experts have warned that lack of cooperation or outright rivalry between the West and Russia in our region is against Armenia’s interests. Yet at first glance it seems that’s where we’re headed. The animosity between the West and Russia and Iran is coming off loud and clear.</p>
<p>In terms of the Artsakh conflict, it appears that the West has collectively recognized the sovereignty of Azerbaijan over Artsakh, even with Macron wavering on the status of Artsakh. The Russian proposal is only a tad bit less discouraging. The Russians offer a very similar “peace plan” (what in reality is a clear capitulation) but with the status of Artsakh to be decided at a future date, without any clear prescription of when and how, and what happens in the meantime.</p>
<ul>
<li>Will Armenia be forced to choose sides? Can it afford to play the “complimentarism” card?</li>
<li>Which way is the Pashinyan government learning?</li>
</ul>
<p>Ararat Mirzoyan recently <a href="https://www.24news.am/news/257227">said</a> that “unexpected third countries” are supporting Azerbaijan’s interpretation of the Nov. 9 statement, many interpreting it as an obvious accusation at Russia.</p>
<ul>
<li>What do you think about this statement? How important is Armenia’s sovereignty, with Soviet borders, to the West and Russia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-armenia-relations">Iran-Armenia Relations</h2>
<p>In the past month, Iran has fully activated its diplomacy, as well as its military in the northern direction. It appears that the aftershock of Armenia’s losses in the 44-day war have awakened Iran to its own present disadvantageous positions, vis-à-vis its traditional competitors, as well as enemies; and that includes Turkey, Azerbaijan, Russia, as well as the west, the US and the EU. We can even include Israel in this list, due to the worrisome defense cooperation between Israel and Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>At every <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32081216.html">summit</a>, or conference, Iran has reiterated its redline about keeping the Iran-Armenia border intact through all geopolitical changes. And most recently, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp, the IRGC, has <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1094809.html">begun</a> conducting massive military exercises in the northern direction; reportedly the exercises point at readiness to invade Azerbaijan, Nakhichevan, and defend Armenian borders deep into its territory.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the stakes for Iran, in the South Caucasus, specifically through Armenia?</li>
<li>Are western observers on Armenia’s eastern borders, whether they are the EU civilian monitoring group, or some OSCE mission, a threat to Iran’s security interests? How?</li>
</ul>
<p>This past week, Iran opened its consulate in Kapan, in Armenia’s southern Syunik province. The foreign ministers of both countries were present and emphasized the close relations between the two countries, with Iran’s FM Hossein Amir-Abdollahian <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095416.html">saying</a> that Armenia’s security was Iran&rsquo;s own security.</p>
<p>Iran’s newly appointed consul general in Kapan, Morteza Abedin Varamin, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&amp;v=5cSRsjWvgB8">added</a> that “we will not officially recognize any change in internationally recognized borders of Armenia.” He further stated, “don’t worry, I am in Kapan”.</p>
<p>Iran has also announced a number of economic investments in Armenia, including a <a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/192446/Iran-to-set-up-car-production-line-in-Armenia-TPOI-chief">manufacturing line</a> for auto exports to the Eurasian Economic Union.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are Iran’s interests primarily driven by geopolitics, or <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095465.html">economic</a> interests? Is Iran protecting its North-South economic corridor, or Armenia?</li>
<li>Would Iran go to war for Armenia’s territorial integrity?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="india">India</h3>
<p>In the past week, defense minister Suren Papikyan paid a long visit to India. After Armenia’s near quarter billion dollar <a href="https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/comment/why-is-new-delhi-selling-weapons-to-armenia-1153088.html?fbclid=IwAR1aBgOgFax8zyqSRtS3lWmnLzsSTQDEz-uouU2p3Vexp9Hs9GYOpyF3eVc">purchase of Indian weaponry</a>, including MLRS and surface to air missiles, and other weaponry, Armenia is considering <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095189.html">further purchases</a>. Papikyan also attended a Defense Expo in New Delhi. This week reports also came out that Armenia is considering buying Iranian drones, which are proving their value in battle for Russia in Ukraine.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>After decades of the Armenian military being armed by Russia, why is Armenia now shopping in India and Iran?</li>
<li>Many western countries have already slapped sanctions on the Iranian drone manufacturer, and the rest are sure to follow. In light of this news, how should Armenia proceed? Can it afford to anger the West by buying Iranian drones? Is the current government capable of taking a risk if needed?</li>
</ul>
<p>After the 44-day war, there were complaints by Pashinyan that some Russian weaponry “worked only in 10% capacity”. More recently Pashinyan has made side swipes at Russia, insinuating that they had been paid for weaponry which they were not delivering.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the common thread in these issues, and what do they mean?</li>
</ul>
<p>In a response to the reports that Armenia may be purchasing Iranian drones, the newly installed Iran consul in Kapan, Morteza Abedin Varamin <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1095439.html">said</a> that “Armenia will never need offensive weapons”.</p>
<ul>
<li>What does that mean?</li>
<li>What is Armenia’s vision for, and perceived role in, the region?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="israel-lebanon-maritime-agreement">Israel-Lebanon Maritime Agreement</h2>
<p>After years of stop and start negotiations, Lebanon and Israel have <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/world/middleeast/israel-and-lebanon-maritime-deal.html">announced</a> that a maritime agreement <a href="https://www.usip.org/publications/2022/10/could-israel-lebanon-maritime-border-deal-be-game-changer">brokered by the US</a> is essentially agreed upon. We’re including a couple of links in our show notes to read about the details of the agreement.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a win-win for both countries, and what’s the outlook for economic benefits for Lebanon?</li>
</ul>
<p>On Thursday this week, the Lebanese parliament again <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-fails-elect-president-third-time-amid-financial-meltdown-2022-10-20/">failed to elect a new president</a>, and Michel Aoun’s term ends on October 31.</p>
<ul>
<li>What the state of presidential politics in Lebanon?</li>
<li>What are the stakes for the Lebanese-Armenian community?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Hovik - Problems with the Census in Armenia</li>
<li>Yeghia - Cholera again?</li>
<li>Arthur - Uneducated punditry about education reform</li>
</ol>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP170]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/170-ardy-kassakhian-adrin-nazarian-the-la-city-council-scandal-ep-no-170-oct-21-2022/</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11546033-the-la-city-council-scandal-ep-no-170-oct-21-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>170</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ardy Kassakhian and Adrin Nazarian: The LA City Council Scandal</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Oct 21, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Ardashes ‘Ardy’ Kassakhian](/guest/akassakhian) is a Glendale City Councilman, and the current mayor of Glendale
* [Adrin Nazarian](/guest/anazarian) is the California State Assemblymember from the 46th District, representing the San Fernando Valley
#### Topics:
* On the LA City Council scandal and how to move forward
* On Paul Krekorian, elected LA City Council president
* On redistricting in the aftermath of the scandal
* On the effect of the scandal on the LA mayoral race
* On Armenia’s Situation in the South Caucasus
* On Armenia’s Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* On Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
Episode 170 | Recorded: October 19 & 20, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Ardashes ‘Ardy’ Kassakhian](/guest/akassakhian) is a Glendale City Councilman, and the current mayor of Glendale
* [Adrin Nazarian](/guest/anazarian) is the California State Assemblymember from the 46th District, representing the San Fernando Valley
#### Topics:
* On the LA City Council scandal and how to move forward
* On Paul Krekorian, elected LA City Council president
* On redistricting in the aftermath of the scandal
* On the effect of the scandal on the LA mayoral race
* On Armenia’s Situation in the South Caucasus
* On Armenia’s Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* On Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
Episode 170 | Recorded: October 19 & 20, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Ardashes ‘Ardy’ Kassakhian](/guest/akassakhian) is a Glendale City Councilman, and the current mayor of Glendale
* [Adrin Nazarian](/guest/anazarian) is the California State Assemblymember from the 46th District, representing the San Fernando Valley
#### Topics:
* On the LA City Council scandal and how to move forward
* On Paul Krekorian, elected LA City Council president
* On redistricting in the aftermath of the scandal
* On the effect of the scandal on the LA mayoral race
* On Armenia’s Situation in the South Caucasus
* On Armenia’s Negotiations with Azerbaijan
* On Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
Episode 170 | Recorded: October 19 & 20, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="the-la-city-council-scandal">The LA City Council Scandal</h1>
<p>Over the past month Los Angeles politics were wracked by a <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23404926/los-angeles-city-council-racist-recording-scandal-explained">scandal</a> that followed the Los Angeles Times leaking a secretly recorded audio tape of a meeting between LA City council members, during which a few of them made racist comments aimed at various LA communities. The paywalled LA Times article is <a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-09/city-council-leaked-audio-nury-martinez-kevin-de-leon-gil-cedillo">here</a>. Armenian-related parts of the audio are <a href="https://twitter.com/knockdotla/status/1579511891877310466?s=46&amp;t=cXdt8UNoYEyGuS_cS1IWaQ">here</a>, but you should listen to the whole thing.</p>
<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>Glendale city councilman and current mayor of Glendale, Ardy Kassakhian.</p>
<p><strong><em>Recorded on Wednesday, October 19, 2022.</em></strong></p>
<p>California State Assemblymember Adrin Nazarian from the 46th District, representing the San Fernando Valley.</p>
<p><strong><em>Recorded on Thursday, October 20, 2022.</em></strong></p>
<p>In the last few weeks, we’ve had a political storm coursing through Los Angeles since the LA Times broke a story and leaked a secretly recorded audio of racist comments which targeted various LA communities by some members of the LA city council. Since then, Council president Nury Martinez has resigned; and two others, Kevin De León and Gil Cedillo are also under pressure to resign.</p>
<p>Earlier this week Councilman Paul Krekorian was voted to take the presidency of the LA City Council, so hopefully we’re on a better path at this point.</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your views on how we, in Los Angeles, move forward from this mess that tore through LA politics in the past few weeks?</li>
<li>Your thoughts about Paul Krekorian taking the lead of the LA City Council?</li>
<li>Why do you think it took the LA Times breaking this story, for this issue to come to public view? Shouldn’t others who were present at that meeting a year ago, have come forward and defended the LA community?</li>
</ul>
<p>A year ago, when the decennial post-census redistricting process took place, many communities complained, and I think the Armenian community was also not pleased with the results.</p>
<ul>
<li>First, can you talk a little bit about how the Armenian community leaders felt about the outcome of last year’s redistricting, and why?</li>
<li>Do you think those results will be revisited, now that we know that the process was maybe compromised by racist undertones, or objectives?</li>
<li>How does this entire episode affect the LA mayoral race? Does it tip the balance in either direction, and is this council ready to work with either new mayor, whether it is <a href="https://twitter.com/KarenBassLA">Karen Bass</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/RickCarusoLA">Rick Caruso</a>?</li>
</ul>
<p>For Mayor Kassakhian:</p>
<ul>
<li>Here in Glendale, we’re our own incorporated city inside LA County, with our separate local government from Los Angeles City. How do these events look from inside our city?</li>
<li>How has this affected the Glendale city council?</li>
<li>How do you rate the Glendale city council’s atmosphere?</li>
</ul>
<p>For Assemblymember Nazarian:</p>
<ul>
<li>You did not re-run for your Assembly seat in the primaries this year. What are your plans for public service, going forward?</li>
</ul>
<p>Let’s briefly turn our attention to the international scene:</p>
<p>In the context of developments in the South Caucasus, how can we, in Los Angeles, support a fair outcome for Armenia?</p>
<p>We’re referring to a context where:</p>
<ol>
<li>Azerbaijan conducts constant and unprovoked attacks on Armenia, invading its sovereign territory, kills civilians, and commits war crimes by executing soldiers in captivity.</li>
<li>The ongoing Turkish-Armenian so-called “Normalization” process, acts as an angle for Turkey to pressure Armenia into conceding maximally to Azerbaijan.</li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>What are your views of the so-called “peace negotiations” between Armenia and Azerbaijan under the auspices of the EU?</li>
<li>Is a “Normalization” with Turkey possible under current circumstances?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP169]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/169-2022-census-astana-iran-cyber-attack-remembering-tsor-unit-ep-169-oct-16-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2022 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11519914-2022-census-astana-iran-cyber-attack-remembering-tsor-unit-ep-169-oct-16-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>169</itunes:episode><itunes:title>2022 Census | Astana | Iran | Cyber Attack | Remembering TsOR Unit | Ep 169 - Oct 16, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - Oct 9, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
* [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan)
* [Yeghishe Zakunts](/guest/yzakunts)
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
#### Topics:
* Census in progress in Armenia
* Meetings in Astana
* Developments in Iran
* Armenian websites compromised
* Remembering the TsOR artillery unit
Episode 169 | Recorded: October 17, 2022</itunes:summary><description>#### Guests:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
* [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan)
* [Yeghishe Zakunts](/guest/yzakunts)
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
#### Topics:
* Census in progress in Armenia
* Meetings in Astana
* Developments in Iran
* Armenian websites compromised
* Remembering the TsOR artillery unit
Episode 169 | Recorded: October 17, 2022</description><googleplay:description>#### Guests:
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
* [Artur Papyan](/guest/apapyan)
* [Yeghishe Zakunts](/guest/yzakunts)
* [Naira Melikyan](/guest/nmelikyan)
#### Topics:
* Census in progress in Armenia
* Meetings in Astana
* Developments in Iran
* Armenian websites compromised
* Remembering the TsOR artillery unit
Episode 169 | Recorded: October 17, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="census-in-progress-in-armenia">Census In Progress in Armenia</h2>
<p>The third decennial post-Soviet census is currently <a href="https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/blogs/83781/posts/56648">in progress</a> in Armenia, and there’s been so little public advertising and information about it that almost nobody is thinking about it. Awareness and support of the census is, of course, a major factor in its success and the ultimate quality of its data.</p>
<p>The census is being actively conducted from October 13 to 23, and our guest is a close follower of it.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why do they pick October to conduct the census?</li>
<li>Has Armenia consistently conducted the census since its independence?
<ul>
<li>How do we rate within post-Soviet states, in consistency and accuracy?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The direct sampling rate is set to 25% this time around. Is this sufficient for an accurate count?</li>
<li>Are minorities properly broken out in census data?</li>
<li>Historically, what sort of policies have come about as a result of census data?</li>
<li>What is to be expected of this census, and when? Are the resulting datasets available to the public in general?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="meetings-in-astana">Meetings in Astana</h2>
<p>Another <a href="https://asbarez.com/moscow-calls-mirzoyan-bayramov-meeting-with-lavrov-substantive/">summit</a> of the heads of the CIS countries was held, this time in Astana, Kazakhstan. Turkish president Erdogan was also there and met with Russian president Putin.</p>
<p>Along the sidelines of this summit, Armenian, Russian and Azerbaijani FMs Ararat Mirzoyan, Sergei Lavrov and Jeyhun Bayramov, discussed ongoing efforts aimed at settling outstanding issues in negotiations.</p>
<p>During this meeting Mirzoyan emphasized to Lavrov the need to implement monitoring in order to control the violence on the Armenia-Azerbaijan borders, including the presence of CSTO troops. Putin however reminded that the current CSTO chair-country, Armenia, should convene a CSTO security council meeting and initiate that process. While Armenia continues to blame the CSTO for inaction, a security council meeting is still not scheduled (to our knowledge).</p>
<ul>
<li>Last week we talked with Benyamin Poghosyan, and in one of his scenarios he noted that Armenia needs to negotiate the presence of both the EU civilian monitors, as well as CSTO troops on its borders in order to ward off Azeri attacks and a possible invasion.</li>
<li>Where is this headed? Is there a problem for Pashinyan in convening a CSTO council meeting and initiating this proposal?</li>
<li>The exchange between Armenia and Russia, played out in the public, seems to be just an effort to put blame and to save face. Normally, such agreements are prepared ahead of time. What does this say about Armenian-Russian relations?</li>
</ul>
<p>On October 12 Lavrov <a href="https://oc-media.org/csto-ready-to-send-observers-to-armenia-azerbaijan-border-as-eu-approves-own-mission/">said</a> that the CSTO is ready to send “observers” to the line of contact between Armenia and Azerbaijan. This is likely a response to the fact that the EU agreed to send a 2-month civilian observer mission, during the meetings in Brussels two weeks ago.</p>
<p>However, Mirzoyan said that Armenia fully <a href="https://asbarez.com/armenia-wants-russias-support-for-withdrawal-of-azerbaijani-troops-from-armenia/">expects</a> that ally Russia can and must compel Azerbaijan to <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1094734.html">leave Armenia’s sovereign</a> territory.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a likely scenario, given Russia’s entanglement in the Ukraine imbroglio?</li>
<li>Given the diplomatic offensive by the US and the EU in the south Caucasus, do you think Russia is feeling a pressure to act, and in some ways retake the initiative here?</li>
</ul>
<p>For his part, Pashinyan delivered a <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1094890.html">speech</a> at the summit. Here are the key notes from that: (Not necessary to read all of this)</p>
<ul>
<li>He said that in Prague, he and Aliyev had agreed to use fundamental CIS documents for the purpose of border delimitation. Essentially, the official Soviet state borders would become the international border between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>He asked the leaders to clarify if the CIS fundamentally accepts that the 1991 borders between them are accepted as international borders, and hinted that the CSTO could not accept the CIS as an observer without this clarification.</li>
<li>Pashinyan clearly stated about the depth of the horrible Azerbaijani aggression on September 13 and 14, and noted that <a href="https://jam-news.net/ilham-aliyev-our-position-is-clear-and-precise-karabakh-is-azerbaijan/">Azeri rhetoric</a> clearly indicates that Azerbaijan intends to occupy more Armenian sovereign territory.</li>
<li>He also clarified the nature of the discussions of the various trilateral statements which form the basis of the “peace negotiations” and rejected Aliyev’s propaganda offensive essentially as fake news.</li>
<li>What can be expected outcomes from this summit? Can we be optimistic that anything new will evolve from here?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="iran-protests-worries-about-syunik">Iran: Protests, Worries About Syunik</h2>
<h3 id="protests">Protests</h3>
<p>For more than a month now, Iran has been embroiled in <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/10/05/iran-security-forces-fire-kill-protesters">unrest</a>. It began with the death of a Kurdish woman Mahsa Amini who was arrested for not wearing a headscarf and died in police custody under suspicious circumstances. Since then, protests have been raging in different cities in Iran with different degrees violence. The death toll from the protests varies greatly depending on who is reporting but on Saturday alone, a prison holding many of the protesters went ablaze resulting in 8 deaths. The exact circumstances however, are still being clarified.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the trajectory of these developments in Iran</li>
<li>What is their significance to Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="military-exercises">Military Exercises</h3>
<p>Before the CIS summit in Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan also hosted a conference on Strengthening Cooperation and Trust in Asia. Iran’s president Raisi met with Aliyev at this conference after which Iran publicly reiterated that any changes in historical borders and regional geopolitics are unacceptable for Iran, and that Raisi had personally <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32081216.html">emphasized</a> this with Aliyev. There was a flood of articles in Iranian press about this, which in itself emphasizes how strongly they mean this.</p>
<p>Soon thereafter, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1094809.html">announced</a> massive military exercises along the length of its northern borders along Armenia and Azerbaijan.</p>
<ul>
<li>How strongly does Iran stand by its red line? Will they go to war if they have to?</li>
</ul>
<p>Iran has also announced investments into Armenian infrastructure and industry. For example, they will apparently <a href="https://en.mehrnews.com/news/192446/Iran-to-set-up-car-production-line-in-Armenia-TPOI-chief">open</a> an auto manufacturing line in Armenia to export cars to the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) countries. Plus, they’re opening a consulate in Kapan.</p>
<ul>
<li>What can we say about Iran’s activation of politics and diplomacy, is this to preserve its North-South corridor, from India to Europe, potential?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armenian-websites-compromised">Armenian Websites Compromised</h2>
<p><strong><em>Segment with Artur Papyan, Cyberhub (Recorded: 10/16/2022)</em></strong></p>
<p>This week, Armenian companies and websites were affected by two cyber-attacks, one against a shared hosting provider (web.am) and another one affecting Armenian NGO fip.am.</p>
<p>In the first case, the attackers defaced more than 200 websites including Artsakh Ministry of Finance, the Gyumri Municipality, and the South Caucasus Railway. The attackers chose to <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/149253">deface</a> the websites, letting it be known that a group called “Az-Security team” was taking credit for the attack.</p>
<p>In the second case, web properties belonging to the Union of Informed Citizens, namely UIC.am, UMDIMEL.am, REFORMS.am were compromised and taken offline. In this case, credit was claimed by a hacker group called “Turkz org”.</p>
<p>We have a short chat with Arthur Papyan, a malware researcher, digital security consultant and co-founder of CyberHub. We talk about the details of these compromises as well as what website operators should take into account in order to improve the security and resiliency of their website.</p>
<h2 id="october-12-2020---remembering-the-tsor-boys">October 12, 2020 - Remembering the TsOR Boys</h2>
<p><strong><em>Segment with Naira Melikyan and Yeghishe Zakunts (Recorded May 7, 2022)</em></strong></p>
<p>This week, October 12, was the 2nd anniversary of the attack against the TsOR Artillery Unit whose members perished near Juvarlu in Hadrut during the 44-day war.</p>
<p>Parents and relatives of the fallen servicemen have initiated a criminal complaint against the then Commander of Artsakh Defense Forces Jalal Harutyunyan, Artillery Commander Gennady Baghdasaryan and Major Gevorg Gevorgyan for misdirecting the men, deploying them too close to the frontline and giving them incorrect information. The families and relatives of the fallen heroes suffered a harrowing ordeal for 13 months searching the sites of the fighting in freezing winter and hot summer weather until finally some relics were recovered and laid to rest.</p>
<p>October 12 is the day when the relatives remember their fallen soldiers, many of whom were posthumously awarded the Battle Cross medal for their heroism.</p>
<p>Here is a short excerpt from our archives of a discussion we had with two of the relatives, Naira Melikyan (mother of Hayk Melikyan) and Yeghishe Zakunts (relative of Ruben Poghosyan). This discussion was recorded on May 7, 2022, at the sidelines of the resistance movement protest so apologies in advance for the poor audio quality and background noise.</p>
<ol>
<li>Հայկ Սարգսի Մելիքյան (Hayk Melikyan)</li>
<li>Գեորգի Արմենի Բալայան (Gevorg Balayan)</li>
<li>Սամվել Արթուրի Ղազարյան (Samvel Ghazaryan)</li>
<li>Արթուր Արմենի Ասրյան (Arthur Asryan)</li>
<li>Լևոն Մհերի Գրիգորյան (Levon Grigoryan)</li>
<li>Դավիթ Լևոնի Ազատյան (David Azatyan)</li>
<li>Արտյոմ Արտակի Տեփանյան (Artyom Tepanyan)</li>
<li>Ռուբեն Արսենի Պողոսյան (Ruben Poghosyan)</li>
<li>Նարեկ Արմենի Օհանյան (Narek Ohanyan)</li>
<li>Արտակ Ջիվանի Միքաելյան (Artak Mikaelyan)</li>
<li>Հայկ Մհերի Պապիկյան (Hayk Papikyan)</li>
<li>Վահե Արթուրի Պապյան (Vahe Papyan)</li>
<li>Հայկ Հովհաննեսի Անտոնյան (Hayk Antonyan)</li>
<li>Սամվել Ստեփանի Պողոսյան (Samvel Poghosyan)</li>
<li>Նվեր Էդուարդի Ավանեսյան (Nver Avanesyan)</li>
<li>Վահե Սարգսի Ավագյան (Vahe Avagyan)</li>
<li>Վաչագան Գարիկի Հարությունյան (Vachagan Harutyunyan)</li>
<li>Կարեն Բորիսի Դանիելյան (Karen Danielyan)</li>
<li>Նաիրի Գրիգորի Բաղդասարյան (Nayiri Baghdasaryan)</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>168</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia-Azerbaijan “Peace Negotiations” Tactics and Goals | October 14, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        
#### Guest: 
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)

#### Topics:
* Goals and Tactics of Azerbaijan’s Negotiations
* How did “Corridors” Become a Thing?
* Russia’s Contributions to the process
* Options and Scenarios Going Forwards...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Goals and Tactics of Azerbaijan’s Negotiations
* How did “Corridors” Become a Thing?
* Russia’s Contributions to the process
* Options and Scenarios Going Forwards
Episode 168 | Recorded: Friday, October 14, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Goals and Tactics of Azerbaijan’s Negotiations
* How did “Corridors” Become a Thing?
* Russia’s Contributions to the process
* Options and Scenarios Going Forwards
Episode 168 | Recorded: Friday, October 14, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Goals and Tactics of Azerbaijan’s Negotiations
* How did “Corridors” Become a Thing?
* Russia’s Contributions to the process
* Options and Scenarios Going Forwards
Episode 168 | Recorded: Friday, October 14, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="armenia-azerbaijan-peace-negotiations-tactics-and-goals">Armenia-Azerbaijan “Peace Negotiations” Tactics and Goals</h1>
<h2 id="overview">Overview</h2>
<p>Since the end of the 44-day war Benyamin has advised caution to Armenia’s leadership in negotiating for a so-called “peace” with Azerbaijan, and that any final agreement that leaves out Nagorno Karabakh means that ultimately it will be depopulated of Armenians.</p>
<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>Benyamin, on Monday we discussed last week&rsquo;s geopolitical issues and something stuck in my mind, so that is why we’re back to discuss this one topic today.</p>
<p>You said that we should try to understand that there&rsquo;s a difference for Azerbaijan between the issue of Karabakh (or Azerbaijan&rsquo;s demands that Armenia forget about Nagorno Karabakh, accept that NK is Azerbaijan, and should be part of Azerbaijan without any status, or zero status), and the establishment of corridors.</p>
<p>The November 2020 agreement created for Armenia an impression that 2 major demands were equally important and imperative for Azerbaijan: the issue of Nagorno Karabakh, and the issue of corridors (through Syunik). And because Armenia lost the war in 2020, it was put in front of a situation of not being able to reject these demands. But that in fact, the negotiation signal to Armenia was that perhaps it had a choice of rejecting one, and possibly to save face.</p>
<p>You note that this is probably just a negotiating, psychological tactic. Discuss:</p>
<ul>
<li>Goals and Tactics of Azerbaijan’s Negotiations</li>
<li>How did “Corridors” Become a Thing?</li>
<li>Russia’s Contributions to the process</li>
<li>Options and Scenarios Going Forwards</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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[EP167]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/167-benyamin-poghosyan-meetings-in-prague-pashinyan-consolidating-power-personal-rants/</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:34:13 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11477210-meetings-in-prague-pashinyan-consolidating-power-personal-rants-ep-167-oct-9-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>167</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Meetings in Prague | Pashinyan Consolidating Power | Personal Rants | Ep 167 - Oct 9, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        
#### Guest: 
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)

#### Topics:
* Meetings in Prague
* Pashinyan Consolidating Power
* Personal Rants


Episode 167 | Recorded: October 10, 2022

        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Meetings in Prague
* Pashinyan Consolidating Power
* Personal Rants
Episode 167 | Recorded: October 10, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Meetings in Prague
* Pashinyan Consolidating Power
* Personal Rants
Episode 167 | Recorded: October 10, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Benyamin Poghosyan](/guest/bpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* Meetings in Prague
* Pashinyan Consolidating Power
* Personal Rants
Episode 167 | Recorded: October 10, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="prague">Prague</h2>
<p>The first meeting of the European Political Community took place in the Czech capital Prague on Thursday. On the sidelines of this meeting, Pashinyan met with Turkish president Erdogan, which was a first for them. Pashinyan also met with Azerbaijan’s president Aliyev separately and then also in a 4-way meeting in the presence of EU co-president Charles Michel and French president Macron.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the “European Political Community” meeting?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="meeting-with-erdogan">Meeting with Erdogan</h3>
<p>Pashinyan’s meeting with Erdogan was relatively quick, and both leaders reported that they confirmed their desire to swiftly implement the agreements reached by the two special reps of Turkey and Armenia for the so-called Normalization process. At this point that means opening the borders for cargo by air, and land border crossings for citizens of third countries.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are these statements commensurate to summit-level result expectations?</li>
<li>What was each side expecting to achieve through this first-ever meeting?</li>
</ul>
<p>As we know, Erdogan has very clearly reiterated that Turkish-Armenian Normalization is completely dependent on a completely pro-Azeri outcome in the so-called “peace negotiations” between Armenia and Azerbaijan. And at the end of their Prague meeting, Erdogan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32068847.html">replied to a press question</a> about next steps in the process with: “We will do what we’ve always done.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Should we assume that this meeting with Pashinyan was mostly an international photo opp for Erdogan, perhaps to stymie third countries from pressuring him on Armenian issues?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="meeting-with-aliyev">Meeting with Aliyev</h3>
<p>Pashinyan also had a 1:1 meeting with Aliyev, who on the day of the meeting shared a provocative <a href="https://twitter.com/presidentaz/status/1577928557405274114">tweet</a>, saying “we will restore Karabakh and Zangezur”.</p>
<p>After the meeting, a vague reference about “some progress” on transport links, which would be part of an eventual “peace” plan. Aliyev put out a boilerplate statement about making progress towards a peace agreement, while at the same time complaining that Pashinyan will not give him a certain road that it wants. Pashinyan <a href="https://twitter.com/NikolPashinyan/status/1578261680458723329">tweeted</a> the following morning that Aliyev “did not respond positively” about his proposal on unblocking regional communications.</p>
<p>Reportedly <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32070046.html">Aliyev rejected</a> many of Pashinyan’s points about “opening all communication links between the two countries”.</p>
<p>Also important to mention is that throughout the week Azerbaijan kept spreading fake reports about Armenian cease-fire violations.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the nature of Pashinyan’s proposal about “unblocking of all regional communications with full respect of our sovereignty and legislation”?</li>
<li>Why is Aliyev rejecting this?
<ul>
<li>Armenia has apparently expressed that it sees the 29,800 sq. km as its borders.</li>
<li>Armenia has indicated that it is ok with not mentioning anything about the status of Artsakh in the so-called “peace agreement”.</li>
<li>What are the other major points that Armenia</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Russian deputy PM Overchuk last week <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32059566.html">signaled</a> Russia’s support for “full respect of sovereignty” in the South Caucasus.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="eu-monitoring-mission">EU Monitoring Mission</h3>
<p>A separate, important 5-hour meeting held in Prague was a 4-way meeting that included Pashinyan, Aliyev, Macron, and Michel.</p>
<p>After this particular meeting president Macron <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32069571.html">announced</a> that the EU will be sending a civilian monitoring mission to the Armenian-Azerbaijani border, in an effort to ease the constant violence due to Azeri attacks and invasion of Armenian lands.</p>
<p>The statement also said: “Armenia and Azerbaijan confirmed their commitment to the Charter of the United Nations and the Alma Ata 1991 Declaration [by former Soviet republics] through which both recognize each other’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. They confirmed it would be a basis for the work of the border delimitation commissions and that the next meeting of the border commissions would take place in Brussels by the end of October.”</p>
<p>The statement didn’t mention anything about Armenian POWs in Baku.</p>
<ul>
<li>Aliyev, who had previously  rejected such monitoring missions, reportedly agreed to “<a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/european-talks-prague-armenia-azerbaijan/32070000.html">cooperate</a>” with Armenia’s facilitating of this mission. What does this mean?</li>
<li>What is the significance of the Alma-Ata 1991 Declaration?</li>
<li>Previously, Macron and France officially had demanded that Azerbaijan withdraw to starting positions. Does EU’s participation in such a format legitimize Azerbaijan’s occupation of Armenia. Compare the EU’s and West’s reaction to Russia’s occupation of Ukraine and Azerbaijan’s occupation of Armenia.</li>
<li>Where will the unarmed monitors be located? Will Azerbaijan withdraw from occupied positions?</li>
<li>Apparently, the monitoring mission - to clarify it is unarmed - will only last 2 months. Is there a possibility for the extension of such a mission? How effective do you think this will be?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are we seeing Armenian officials “lower the bar” yet again? Is it possible that Armenia may not be able to support Artsakh even financially, as it is doing today?</li>
<li>What role could the OSCE MG have in this, and what international guarantees could be provided to Artsakh to secure its existence? Let’s also remember that Azerbaijan in the past has said that the Minsk Group has outlived its usefulness and should be disbanded.</li>
<li>Despite the news about a temporary EU monitoring mission, given that there’s no significant agreement yet, how likely do you think is the chance that Azerbaijan may restart open warfare?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="where-is-russia">Where is Russia?</h3>
<p>It seems that future meetings related to this “peace” plan are being moved to Brussels. For instance, the next meeting of the demarcation and delimitation commissions will continue to be in Brussels. The European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell stated that the meeting of 44 countries in Brussels, without the presence of Russia, was an attempt to seek a new world order that doesn’t involve Russia.</p>
<p>In response to news about the meetings in Brussels, Maria Zakharova, spokesperson of the Russian MFA said that Russia has in the past made suggestions to the sides for a comprehensive peace, but Russian analysts more and more believe that Russia is yielding the initiative in the South Caucasus because it simply doesn’t have the bandwidth for it while the war in Ukraine is in progress.</p>
<p>After Brussels, both Pashinyan and Aliyev traveled to Russia for an informal meeting of the  Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). At this meeting, Pashinyan had no meetings with Putin. No Armenian-Azerbaijani issue was on the agenda, as far as we’re aware.</p>
<p>In the past world powers seemed to use Artsakh to find areas of agreement and collaborate on solutions. Now world powers seem to be trying to use the conflict to score points against each other.</p>
<h3 id="status-for-artsakh">Status for Artsakh</h3>
<p>Pashinyan has indicated that the peace plan he will sign may not mention Nagorno Karabakh. In Prague there was mention also that Baku and Stepanakert may discuss their own modus vivendi. Baku has not denied such a possibility.</p>
<p>Armenia seems to be officially washing its hands of the Artsakh Cause. Previously, Armenian officials had already expressed the idea that security of Artsakh is entirely upon the Russian peacekeepers. However, this week we heard statements that go further. For instance, this week, a Civil Contract MP Edward Aghajanyan stated that: “Armenia no longer has the opportunity nor resources to safeguard the rights of the people of Artsakh, including security.”</p>
<h2 id="pashinyan-consolidating-power">Pashinyan Consolidating Power</h2>
<h3 id="key-loyalist-appointments">Key Loyalist Appointments</h3>
<p>Two major appointments have consolidated Pashinyan’s and his ruling Civil Contract party’s rule in Armenia. On Friday, Civil Contract loyalist Karen Andreasyan was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32070165.html">appointed</a> as the chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council. At the same time, the parliament also appointed Yeranuhi Tumanyants, also a party loyalist, to another vacant position on the SJC.</p>
<p>At the same time, Pashinyan loyalist Vahagn Hovakimyan, was <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32070372.html">appointed</a> as the chairman of the Central Election Committee, together with six other loyalists who were also appointed to the committee.</p>
<p>All of these appointments have been widely slammed by the opposition, as well as by international watchdog organizations, as moves that undermine the independence of the country’s judicial system with undesirable government influence; and similarly with the CEC appointment which nearly subordinates the election process to the prime minister.</p>
<p>The CEC appointment may also be illegal, since the constitution requires that its members not be partisans; now Hovakimyan resigned from the ruling party just last week and now claims to be neutral, and objective.</p>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hovakimyan had been an employee of Pashinyan’s Haykakan Zhamanak (Armenian Times) family newspaper since the late 90’s. When Pashinhyan became an MP, Hovakimyan became his assistant. But now he is fair and balanced!</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about these appointments, and your concerns about judicial independence, and the risks to future elections in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ol>
<li>Benyamin - Problems in the US political system</li>
<li>Hovik - Fallacy of righting the wrong of removing NKR from the OSCE MG negotiations</li>
</ol>
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[EP166]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/166-armenian-news-network-groong-week-in-review-oct-2-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2022 17:25:20 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11440075-armenian-news-network-groong-week-in-review-oct-2-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>166</itunes:episode><itunes:title>US-Armenia Relations | Azerbaijan Maps | Azerbaijan Aggression and War Crimes | Ep 166 - Oct 2, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        
#### Guest:
* [Aram Suren Hamparian](/guest/ahamparian)
* [Rouben Galichian](/guest/rgalichian)
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)

#### Topics:
* US-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijan’s Maps and Claims
* Azerbaijan Continues to Occupy...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Aram Suren Hamparian](/guest/ahamparian)
* [Rouben Galichian](/guest/rgalichian)
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* US-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijan’s Maps and Claims
* Azerbaijan Continues to Occupy Armenia
* Internal Politics in Armenia
Episode 166 | Recorded: October 1 & 3, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Aram Suren Hamparian](/guest/ahamparian)
* [Rouben Galichian](/guest/rgalichian)
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* US-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijan’s Maps and Claims
* Azerbaijan Continues to Occupy Armenia
* Internal Politics in Armenia
Episode 166 | Recorded: October 1 & 3, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Aram Suren Hamparian](/guest/ahamparian)
* [Rouben Galichian](/guest/rgalichian)
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan)
#### Topics:
* US-Armenia Relations
* Azerbaijan’s Maps and Claims
* Azerbaijan Continues to Occupy Armenia
* Internal Politics in Armenia
Episode 166 | Recorded: October 1 & 3, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="us---armenia-relations">US - Armenia Relations</h2>
<p><strong><em>Segment with Aram Suren Hamparian (Recorded: 10/01/2022)</em></strong></p>
<p>Over the past weeks, we have seen an unprecedented intensification of contacts Between Armenia and the West, specifically the United States. First, earlier in September, Suren Papikyan made a much-publicized trip to the States, even though at the time it seemed that the trip wasn’t very successful since he didn’t even manage to meet his counterpart, the Secretary of Defense.</p>
<p>However, since Azerbaijan’s brutal aggression on September 13 and the subsequent attack on Sep 28, there seems to have been an unprecedented diplomatic appetite from the West. First, we had a first time visit by speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi on September 22.</p>
<p>In the aftermath of September 13:</p>
<ul>
<li>There was a short conversation between Ararat Mirzoyan and Biden</li>
<li>Pashinyan had long discussions with Blinken</li>
<li>Armen Grigoryan visited the US
<ul>
<li>He had negotiations with Jake Sullivan</li>
<li>Ned Price: “importance of avoiding further violence and pursuing time-bound and focused negotiations” - Seems that the US has bought some time, but not unlimited?</li>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Davit Babayan (MFA of Artsakh) had meetings with members of the US congress</li>
</ul>
<p>We had a surprise visit by Pashinyan to France to meet with Macron, followed by Papikyan visiting France as well. During Papikyan’s visit, France agreed to expedite sending a fact-finding delegation to evaluate the situation.</p>
<h3 id="us-arms-for-armenia">US Arms for Armenia?</h3>
<p>Then we had somewhat of a surprise announcement from the organization that you chair, Aram. The ANCA <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ANCA_DC/status/1574463143090294791">tweeted</a> that:
<em>&ldquo;For the 1st time since the rebirth of Armenian independence in 1991, US policymakers - under sustained bipartisan Congressional pressure - are considering the sale of US arms to help #Armenia&rsquo;s defense against #Azerbaijan&rsquo;s relentless (Turkey-backed) aggression &amp; ethnic-cleansing.&rdquo;</em></p>
<p>This tweet got <a href="https://arminfo.info/full_news.php?id=71744&amp;lang=3">translated</a> to a headline of: “U.S. considering selling arms to Armenia” by News.am.</p>
<ul>
<li>What discussions have you had with the legislative and executive branch to lead you to make this announcement? Is there something unprecedented and new that we should know?</li>
<li>How realistic do you believe this proposal is? What are the conditions that you think may be presented to Armenia, if any sale of weapons is made? Is leaving CSTO, for instance, a condition?</li>
<li>What are your thoughts on Armenia’s membership in the CSTO?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="congressional-resolutions">Congressional Resolutions</h3>
<p>Over the past few weeks, there was also news about congressional resolutions related to the Azerbaijani aggression.</p>
<p>In the Senate, friend of Armenians Bob Menendez <a href="https://www.menendez.senate.gov/newsroom/press/menendez-introduces-bipartisan-resolution-increasing-pressure-to-halt-us-security-assistance-to-azerbaijan#:~:text=WASHINGTON%20%E2%80%93%20U.S.%20Senator%20Bob%20Menendez,halt%20all%20security%20assistance%20to">introduced</a> a senate resolution demanding halting of US assistance to Azerbaijan. Specifically, the resolution calls on the president to make a determination on whether Azerbaijan should be subject to sanctions under the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act.</p>
<p>In the House, a resolution condemning Azerbaijani aggression was introduced by Jackie Spier (CA-14) who recently accompanied Pelosi to Yerevan. Co-sponsors of that resolution are Congress people Frank Pallone (NJ-06), Adam Schiff (CA-28), and Anna Eshoo (CA-18). Specifically, point #7 states: “reaffirms its support of Armenia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, as well as that of the Republic of Artsakh, against Azerbaijan’s military aggression and blatant violations of international laws and norms.”</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the significance of these resolutions and the likelihood of them passing?</li>
<li>What’s the likelihood of the Biden administration sanctions against AZ based on the Senate resolution?</li>
<li>Official recognition of Artsakh in the US House? Is this something new?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijans-maps-and-claims">Azerbaijan’s Maps and Claims</h2>
<p><strong><em>Segment with Rouben Galichian (Recorded: 10/01/2022)</em></strong></p>
<p>A number of developments have taken place in the past year, both in terms of de-facto changes on the ground and official statements from Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders.</p>
<p>In terms of physical control of territory, Azerbaijan’s aggression along the eastern border of 3 Armenian marzes has led to further encroachment into Armenia, threatening the resort town of Jermuk, which has been evacuated, as well as the major international  highway linking Armenia with Iran. However, Ilham Aliyev on Sep. 21 claimed that Azerbaijan has prepared maps and delimitation must be carried out based on those maps.</p>
<p>The delimitation and demarcation process promises to be a very long and arduous one, since Aliyev has the upper hand and apparent control over the tempo of the process.</p>
<ul>
<li>You <a href="https://asbarez.com/aliyev-says-no-one-or-nothing-can-stop-his-forces/">penned</a> an article that was published in Asbarez, in response to Aliyev’s allegations. Aliyev claimed to have a map from 1844 showing an Azerbaijan between Georgia and Armenia. Where did that map originate and is it authentic?</li>
<li>In other interviews, you have <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajbqkd7v-6g">referred</a> to a map published in 1926 in the Soviet Encyclopedia as the earliest map and the one on which delimitation should be based on. Can you tell us more about this map from 1926?
<ul>
<li>Who did Karvachar (Kelbajar) belong to at the time?</li>
<li>Were there any enclaves?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In his TV address on September 21 Pashinyan <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2022/09/16/Our-political-position-is-that-aggressor-forces-of-Azerbaijan-should-leave-sovereign-territory-of-A/796892">said</a> that Armenia is ready to accept a peace treaty with Azerbaijan based on the fact that Armenia is 29,800 sq. kilometers or the territory that was assigned to Armenia before the breakup of the USSR. He repeated this claim in his address at the UNGA.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the significance of this 29,800 number?</li>
<li>What areas does it cover?</li>
<li>Where does it leave the so-called “enclaves”?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="azerbaijani-occupation-of-armenia-continues">Azerbaijani Occupation of Armenia Continues</h2>
<p>Azerbaijan continues to occupy large swaths of territory inside Armenia and is now conducting fortification activities along the newly established line of contact. Many thousands of people who had been evacuated from Jermuk and other populated areas close to the zone of the hostilities are not going back. In fact, entry to Jermuk and other areas is by military permission only.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://gadebate.un.org/en/77/armenia">latest</a> official casualty count exceeds 207 but hasn’t been updated in nearly 2 weeks. Foreign embassies have put up travel warnings to Southern and Eastern Armenian territories.</p>
<h3 id="azerbaijan-928-attack">Azerbaijan 9/28 attack</h3>
<p>Just last week, Azerbaijan continued its military brinkmanship and on September 28 attacked an Armenian position with heavy caliber weapons. As a result,** <a href="https://twitter.com/Armbreakingnews/status/1575482009131941893">three</a> Armenian servicemen were killed**.</p>
<p>Our condolences to the families and loved ones of Lt Col Nahapet Margaryan, Sgt Hovhannes Sukyasyan and Pvt Edvard Hovhannisyan. Eternal glory to all Armenian heroes.</p>
<p>As confirmed by Pashinyan the Armenian side was conducting engineering activities in order to fortify its positions after retreating on 9/13. This was seen as a provocation by Azerbaijan despite entrenchment work by Azerbaijan itself in the newly acquired positions well inside Armenia, visible even from space.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why is Azerbaijan able to get away with such brazen attacks?</li>
<li>What goals did they have when attacking and did they achieve them?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="peace-treaty-ceding-of-artsakh-and-enclaves">Peace Treaty: Ceding of Artsakh and Enclaves</h3>
<p>At the same time Azerbaijan appears to be using its military gains to exact further concessions from Pashinyan’s de-facto regime. Armenian officials were quick to blame Russia and CSTO for their troubles, despite continuing a submissive behavior.</p>
<p>Following the Sep 12-13 aggression, Pashinyan and Aliyev began a series of public announcements and interviews.</p>
<p>However, as the days progressed, Pashinyan’s current position seemed to be further clarified. First, Pashinyan in different circumstances, including the UN, Pashinyan is <a href="https://www.1lurer.am/en/2022/09/16/Our-political-position-is-that-aggressor-forces-of-Azerbaijan-should-leave-sovereign-territory-of-A/796892">saying</a> that Armenia is ready to accept a peace treaty with Azerbaijan based on the fact that Armenia is 29,800 sq. kilometers or the territory that was assigned to Armenia before the breakup of the USSR. Also, in the latest interview he gave to H1, Pashinyan <a href="https://jam-news.net/karabakh-may-not-be-mentioned-in-the-peace-agreement-with-azerbaijan-pashinyan/">says</a> “Karabakh may not be mentioned in the peace agreement with Azerbaijan”.</p>
<ul>
<li>Analysts on our show have warned about this, but what are the risks you see from these positions that are now officially public record?</li>
<li>What about the enclaves?</li>
</ul>
<p>In fact, leaving Artsakh to its own fate is already in the process officially.</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Arayik Harutyunyan mentioned something about it in a televised speech</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Pashinyan in Paris <a href="https://www.primeminister.am/en/foreign-visits/item/2022/09/26/Nikol-Pashinyan-Emmanuel-Macron/">said</a>: “I think the start of Azerbaijan-Nagorno Karabakh discussions can be useful. In this context, I must emphasize the role of France as an OSCE Co-chair country.”</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>How is Stepanakert going to fend for itself? Why is Armenia formally relinquishing its role in the OSCE Minsk group?</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="public-spat-with-russia-and-the-csto">Public Spat with Russia and the CSTO</h3>
<p>The Azerbaijani attack was accompanied by more public accusations against Russia and the CSTO. Pashinyan and his team sometimes openly and sometimes less so have accused Russia and CSTO not only of not adequately reacting to Armenia’s request for assistance, but went further to say that Armenia has problems procuring weapons from its allies.</p>
<p>For instance, Gagik Melkoyan, a Civil Contract delegate of the national assembly <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOfJwuOk81I">complained explicitly</a> that: “since the end of the 2020 war to this day, Russia has not sold us a single weapon.” We know at least based on public domain information that this is incorrect since there was a public show of new helicopter acquisitions by the ministry of defense.</p>
<p>More recently, in a weird sequence of announcements, Pashinyan <a href="https://youtu.be/8C47q9ZAXAs">openly accused</a> Armenia’s “allies” of being influenced by Azerbaijan to not sell Armenia weapons, despite paying hundreds of millions of dollars in deposits. The media began speculating and the most likely candidate for the blame was Armenia’s only strategic ally Russia. Public criticism of Russia intensified.</p>
<p>Then, the ministry of defense on Friday denied that arms shipments from Russia to Armenia have stopped and said that weapons deliveries are happening based on signed contracts and schedules. Following that, in his H1 interview, Pashinyan himself seems to have backtracked and said that he didn’t explicitly name Russia by name.</p>
<ul>
<li>What sense can be made of this public blame game? Is Russia really influenced by an Azerbaijani ban on weapons sales?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Azerbaijani attack was accompanied by more public accusations against Russia and the CSTO. Pashinyan and his team sometimes openly have accused Russia and CSTO of inadequately reacting to Armenia’s request for assistance.</p>
<p>The public fight with Russia and CSTO didn’t end with just weapons acquisition. After the CSTO’s lack of commitment to send troops to Armenia - something which doesn’t surprise us - Pashinyan has been openly critical of the organization, stopping short of saying that Armenia should leave the CSTO. That message of course was still spread unofficially yet vocally.</p>
<p>In an apparent slight to the organization, Armenia <a href="https://akipress.com/news:680815:Armenia_skips_CSTO_drills_in_Kazakhstan">skipped</a> the CSTO drills in Kazakhstan last week. And in his speech on 9/29, Pashinyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1093631">said</a> international peacekeeper forces on the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan are an &ldquo;absolute necessity&rdquo;. This was after his visit to France and following his announcement, France <a href="https://twitter.com/301arm/status/1575783602373251072?t=SwoJ-Gf0slhTbF2Rexa7YA&amp;s=19">said</a> it supports the idea of sending international monitors to Armenia.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the prospect of having non-CSTO troops on the Armenian border with Azerbaijan?</li>
<li>Can this be done unilaterally, without Azerbaijan&rsquo;s agreement?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="internal-politics">Internal Politics</h2>
<h3 id="meeting-of-the-3-presidents">Meeting of the 3 Presidents</h3>
<p>For weeks there were rumors that the Catholicos of All Armenians was trying to facilitate meetings with the 3 former presidents (Ter-Petrosyan, Kocharyan, and Sargsyan) as well as 2 former presidents of Artsakh. Eventually, the presidents finally met, however the announcement after their meetings was very short, simply that they agreed to meet again.</p>
<p>The Levon Ter-Petrosyan interview</p>
<ul>
<li>Calls it a capitulation but says that we must sign it.</li>
<li>Urged all political forces to unite behind Pashinyan and collectively take ownership of signing it.</li>
</ul>
<p>Robert Kocharyan on capitulation (from his press conference)</p>
<ul>
<li>In reference to LTP’s call, said that capitulation doesn’t require consolidation. Consolidation is required to prepare the population for victory.</li>
<li>Capitulation can’t serve as the basis for peace. Instead, it will have the opposite effect.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Despite the obvious disagreements, the presidents seem to have signaled that they’re willing to talk further. What does this mean?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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#### Guests:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)

#### Topics:
* Azerbaijani Aggression
* Russia and CSTO
* UN &amp; International Reaction
* War...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijani Aggression
* Russia and CSTO
* UN & International Reaction
* War Communications (with Karen Vrtanesyan)
* Nancy Pelosi's Visit (with Suren Sargsyan)
Episode 165 | Recorded: Sunday, September 18, 2022</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijani Aggression
* Russia and CSTO
* UN & International Reaction
* War Communications (with Karen Vrtanesyan)
* Nancy Pelosi's Visit (with Suren Sargsyan)
Episode 165 | Recorded: Sunday, September 18, 2022</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Arthur G. Martirosyan](/guest/amartirosyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Suren Sargsyan](/guest/ssargsyan)
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijani Aggression
* Russia and CSTO
* UN & International Reaction
* War Communications (with Karen Vrtanesyan)
* Nancy Pelosi's Visit (with Suren Sargsyan)
Episode 165 | Recorded: Sunday, September 18, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijani-aggression">Azerbaijani Aggression</h2>
<p>On the morning of September 13, 2022, shortly past midnight, Azerbaijani armed forces began a full-scale offensive against the entire border between three Armenian marzes (Gegharkunik, Vayots Dzor, and Syunik). The intensity of the fighting was equivalent to that of the 44-day war with Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>As of Saturday, September 17, there are at least 135 deaths on the Armenian side, while Azerbaijan claims 79 dead. The attack was accompanied with war crimes including attacking civilian areas, killing of civilians, as well as horrendous rape and mutilation of female Armenian service members, all broadcast on the internet by Azerbaijani forces for the world to see.</p>
<p>Additionally on the Armenian side, there are 7 official POWs (prominent human rights lawyer, Siranush Sahakian, <a href="https://twitter.com/Armbreakingnews/status/1571178711004708867">claims</a> more than 20), hundreds of wounded. There are about 200 damaged or destroyed homes and more than 7600 residents have been evacuated from towns and villages near the fighting, which include Kapan, Jermuk, Martuni, and Sotk.</p>
<p>The Azerbaijani forces have also gained territory. In Jermuk, the enemy has broken through 7.5 km deep and 8.5km wide. Azerbaijani troops are now 4.5km from Jermuk.</p>
<p>Since September 16 there is a humanitarian case-fire in place which seems to be holding at the time of this recording. But Armenian officials have also accused Azerbaijan of preparing to attack Armenia from Nakhijevan in order to forcefully punch a corridor through Armenia’s south.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is your observation of what took place? In your assessment, what is Azerbaijan’s goal and was Armenia taken by surprise by this invasion?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Notes:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><em>Lead up of propaganda for more than a week</em></li>
<li><em>All analysts expected that full scale violence was imminent</em></li>
<li><em>DM was in the US</em></li>
<li><em>Armenia didn&rsquo;t provide any warnings to citizens</em></li>
</ul>
<p>Despite this being day #5 since the attacks began, there has been no declaration of martial law and no mobilization of forces. Prime minister Pashinyan said he doesn’t see the need to declare martial law or mobilization at this time, meanwhile Alen Simonyan, president of the national assembly <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD38TZla1Zk">said</a> that instituting martial law could be a sign of aggression!!!</p>
<ul>
<li>Azerbaijan has now seriously extended its encroachment into more Armenian territory. What is the Armenian government waiting for? Why not at least begin mobilization given that it takes time to train called up fighters?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="russia-csto">Russia-CSTO</h2>
<h3 id="aggression-or-provocation">Aggression or Provocation?</h3>
<p>In the aftermath of the attack, Armenia has appealed to international organizations such as the United Nations, the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). It has also applied to Russia based on the bilateral security treaty between the two countries.</p>
<p>The UN <a href="http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/instree/GAres3314.html">Definition of aggression</a> of “aggression” is clear. However, at least during the initial 3 days of the conflict, before the ceasefire was reached, Armenian authorities explicitly avoided the term “aggression”. In the national assembly, on the day of the attack, the opposition’s offer to explicitly use the term aggression in a resolution condemning the attack, was rejected by the Civil Contract majority. Only during the second UN Security Council meeting on the 4th day, as a ceasefire was to start taking effect, did the Armenian representative use that term.</p>
<p>Article 4 of the CSTO treaty explicitly uses the word “aggression” against a member state as a trigger. Overnight it was known that there were over 105 killed.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why didn’t the Armenian side use the term aggression on the first day?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="csto-response">CSTO Response</h3>
<p>As we know, the CSTO sent a fact-finding team to the region this week. Meanwhile, Stanislav Zas, CSTO General Secretary, is scheduled to arrive in the following week.</p>
<p>But even before the arrival of the team, Russian officials said that sending military aid to Armenia was not discussed.</p>
<p>To <a href="https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/15756819">quote</a> Sidorov (head of the CSTO headquarters): “Therefore the CSTO’s military involvement was not discussed on September 13, nor yesterday, nor today, and, I think, it won&rsquo;t be discussed in the near future.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Do we know if Armenia invoked Article 4, requiring military aid, or Article 2 which simply calls for consultation?</li>
<li>How can we explain the inaction of the CSTO?</li>
</ul>
<p>In light of CSTO non-action, there have been increasingly strong public rebukes from Armenian officials. Armen Grigoryan, national security council, said that Armenia expected more from the CSTO and in a veiled threat of leaving the organization said that “Armenia had nothing to think about, it is the CSTO who should think about what to do”.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, certain media, usually funded by Western sources, have increased coverage of the thesis that Armenia should leave the CSTO. There was even a <a href="https://hetq.am/en/article/148401">small protest</a> held on Saturday calling for Armenia’s withdrawal from the organization.</p>
<p>But caught between a Russia at war and a hard place, should Armenia curb its expectations from the organization? Could Armenia’s own actions over the past years have helped or harmed the relationship with CSTO members sufficiently to have an effect on the outcome we’re seeing today?</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Armenia’s proper response to CSTO?</li>
</ul>
<p>In a region like Armenia’s, security alliances are a must and much of our national security strategy has been built upon the foundations of CSTO membership.</p>
<ul>
<li>Should we even be members of an alliance which multiple times now has declined to help Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>Note of course, that leaving the CSTO could open the way for Azerbaijan joining the group and cause more harm to Armenia.</p>
<h3 id="russia">Russia</h3>
<p>In addition to criticizing the CSTO, Armenian officials have not been shy of public spats with Russia. We should recall that Armenia’s relations with Russia are at such a state, that Armenia’s strategic ally had recently sent a diplomatic note of protest accusing Armenia of tolerating anti-Russian propaganda.</p>
<p>In addition to the CSTO, Armenia also has applied to Russia as we mentioned earlier.</p>
<ul>
<li>What has the official response of Russia (not as part of the CSTO but Russia itself) been to Armenia’s request?</li>
<li>Will this request also have the same fate as the CSTO one?</li>
</ul>
<p>After the hearings in the UN Security Council, Armenia praised the response of members in general except isolating “one member”, alluding to Russia but without naming it, saying that Armenia expected more.</p>
<p>Alen Simonyan in an interview also indirectly blamed Armenia’s geo-political troubles on Russia, linking the war in Artsakh to what took place in Syria and Ukraine.</p>
<p>Russia also didn’t attend a visit to the regions where there is conflict organized by the Armenian government for foreign embassies.</p>
<ul>
<li>As an experienced negotiator. Is this type of public complaining the right strategy?</li>
<li>What is causing the Armenia-Russia relationship to turn so sour and what could Armenia have done better?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="un-and-international-reaction">UN and International Reaction</h2>
<h3 id="un-reaction">UN Reaction</h3>
<p>Following the aggression, Armenia also took its case to international partners including requesting a hearing at the UN Security Council. In fact, there were 2 meetings, one on September 13, the day of the attack, which was closed and another one on September 15 which was open.</p>
<p>There is no press about the outcome of the closed meeting, however, the meeting on Sep 15 was broadcast live and we had a chance to directly hear the reactions of different members of the UNSC.</p>
<p>Generally, there was significant support from UNSC members. For instance:</p>
<ul>
<li>India called Azerbaijan &ldquo;aggressor&rdquo;</li>
<li>The US called on Aliyev to ‘cease the hostilities’ and ‘disengage military forces’ and underscored that the fighting was happening inside Armenia. In a separate public announcement, the US sent condolences for Armenian deaths.</li>
<li>France asked Azerbaijan to withdraw to initial positions.</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile Russia’s reaction was uncharacteristically mild and bothsidist. This led Ararat Mirzoyan to say that Armenia is expecting more from a certain country - alluding to Russia.</p>
<p>In the end, there was no resolution and nothing but words it seems.</p>
<ul>
<li>How would you evaluate Armenia’s bringing up the issue to the UNSC? Could it have gotten more from its international partners?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="iran">Iran</h3>
<p>This week in Samarkand at the Shanghai Cooperation Council, Iran’s president Ebrahim Raisi also commented on Azerbaijan’s invasion, saying that “any change in the recognized borders of Azerbaijan and Armenia should be rejected”. This has been a frequent and consistent message from the military-political leadership of Iran, including Ayatollah Khamenei.</p>
<ul>
<li>How significant is the Iran factor in this? Is there any way for Armenia to derive security benefits or guarantees from Iran’s position?</li>
</ul>
<p>In general, there is a global shortage of arms and ammunition due to the war, but there are reports that Armenia’s southern neighbor Iran has offered Armenia weaponry multiple times in the past. If Armenia were to purchase weapons from Iran, it would also greatly simplify the logistics of delivery albeit expose Armenia to risks from US sanctions.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the prospect of Armenia acquiring weapons from Iran?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="karen-vrtanesyan-on-azerbaijani-aggression">Karen Vrtanesyan on Azerbaijani Aggression</h2>
<p>Guest: Karen Vrtanesyan, recorded separately.</p>
<p>Karen, we’re talking on Sunday, Sep 18, 2022. Close to 6 days have passed since the beginning of this new Azerbaijani offensive.</p>
<ul>
<li>What is Azerbaijan’s goal and was Armenia taken by surprise by this invasion?</li>
</ul>
<p>The chief of general staff Edward Asryan explained to the media that the Azeri incursion in Jermuk is over-extended and claimed the enemy is surrounded. Furthermore, he expressed assurance that within a few days as their supplies run out, they will be forced to retreat. Meanwhile, Alen Simonyan talked about a few “sabotage groups” who are being hunted down.</p>
<ul>
<li>Are they talking about the same group?</li>
<li>How would you assess Armenia’s strategic and tactical military communication with the public and the press in the wake of this attack?</li>
</ul>
<p>In this latest attack we have over 135 martyrs. We are hearing reports that they are being buried quietly, perhaps 10 per day, without much fanfare. Taking pictures or video in Yerablur is restricted.</p>
<ul>
<li>Why not conduct a full honor guard ceremony for these soldiers, even Azerbaijan does this? After all, we are already hearing of cases of heroic fighting and resistance. What is the strategy that Armenia is pursuing in not publicizing these funerals?</li>
</ul>
<p>This week, Armenia seemed to even blame Russia for lack of weapons. Alen Simonyan, president of the National Assembly, in an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD38TZla1Zk">interview</a> on H1, said that what Armenia needs most now is weapons and they’re having trouble getting them from one direction (again alluding to Russia without naming it explicitly).</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you explain this complaint about having trouble acquiring weapons?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="suren-sargsyan-on-nancy-pelosi-visit">Suren Sargsyan on Nancy Pelosi Visit</h2>
<p>A high-profile US congressional delegation of Democratic representatives visited Armenia over the weekend. The delegation was led by Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House. Accompanying Pelosi were Representatives Frank Pallone (D-NJ), Anna Eshoo (D-CA), and Jackie Spier (D-CA). All four representatives are staunch friends of the Armenian community in the US.</p>
<p>The visit generated media coverage, including some emotional scenes with Pelosi in Tsitsernakaberd, the Armenian Genocide Memorial.</p>
<ul>
<li>What will this visit bring to US - Armenia relations?</li>
<li>Is there potential to cooperate in the military sphere?</li>
<li>How was Pelosi’s visit perceived in Tehran and Moscow?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>164</itunes:episode><itunes:title>From ‘revolution’ to war with Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan | Ep 164 - Sep 12, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process
Conversation with Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan

Armenian News Network/Groong - September 12, 2022

Recently two AUA professors (Prof. Hovhannes Nikoghosyan and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process
Conversation with Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Armenian News Network/Groong - September 12, 2022
Recently two AUA professors (Prof. Hovhannes Nikoghosyan and Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan) published a paper in Taylor and Francis Online (TANDF) that analyzes the foreign policy decision making (FPDM) process of the Nikol Pashinyan administration, titled: "From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process". In this episode, we talk to one of the authors of the paper, Prof. Ter-Matevosyan.
TOPICS:
* Opening (00:00:00)
* Introduction (00:02:22) - We discuss how the idea for the paper arose and the process through which the two scholars went through to conduct their research.
* TURKEY (00:22:51) - One specific aspect of the war, that played a significant role in the outcome, was Turkey’s involvement. In our opinion, just by sharing with Azerbaijan accurate NATO signals and satellite intelligence in the form of targets to destroy is more than enough to consider its role as decisive. Turkey went beyond that of course. Thus, paying attention and estimating Turkey’s willingness to intervene on behalf of Azerbaijan would be critical for Armenia’s leadership. We of course have seen different members of the Pashinyan team assure the press and public, even weeks before the war, that Turkey would not dare intervene.
- Have you looked at this aspect of Armenia’s foreign policy?
- What did Pashinyan’s team do (or perhaps didn’t do) in this area to accurately assess the risk of intervention from Turkey and to put mitigations to counter this risk?
- Was there any specific contact with Turkey in the run-up to Sep 2020?
- How critical were Pashinyan’s and Armen Sarkissian’s statements on the 100th anniversary of Treaty of Sevres?
* RUSSIA ( 00:37:18) - Many, especially those in the pro-Pashinyan camp today, blame Russia for throwing Armenia under the bus for better relations with Turkey.
- What was the conduct of Pashinyan’s foreign policy with Russia like, preceding and during the war?
- Are the claims that Russia deceived its ally Armenia correct?
- Did Russia in recent years ever send a signal to Armenia that it would help defend Artsakh?
* AZERBAIJAN (00:46:56) - Many of the analysts we talk to state that it was pretty much obvious that Aliyev was gearing up for war starting from 2011 when he effectively rejected the peace deal being considered at the time. It is apparent that Azerbaijan also bid its time, preparing militarily but also tactically selecting a suitable period in time. In 2020, the world was preoccupied with Covid and in the US it was election season, as well as a period of near isolationism from foreign involvements in the Trump administration.
- Despite the external factors, was there anything that Armenia did bilaterally with Azerbaijan that could have delayed the war or helped change its outcome?
- What was the outcome of the infamous Dushanbe elevator meeting?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Guest:
- Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan, an associate Professor and Chair of the Political Science and International Affairs Program at AUA. His research interests focus on Turkish politics, Kemalism, Political Islam & Security in the South Caucasus.

Episode 164 | Recorded: Sunday, September 11, 2022</itunes:summary><description>From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process
Conversation with Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Armenian News Network/Groong - September 12, 2022
Recently two AUA professors (Prof. Hovhannes Nikoghosyan and Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan) published a paper in Taylor and Francis Online (TANDF) that analyzes the foreign policy decision making (FPDM) process of the Nikol Pashinyan administration, titled: "From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process". In this episode, we talk to one of the authors of the paper, Prof. Ter-Matevosyan.
TOPICS:
* Opening (00:00:00)
* Introduction (00:02:22) - We discuss how the idea for the paper arose and the process through which the two scholars went through to conduct their research.
* TURKEY (00:22:51) - One specific aspect of the war, that played a significant role in the outcome, was Turkey’s involvement. In our opinion, just by sharing with Azerbaijan accurate NATO signals and satellite intelligence in the form of targets to destroy is more than enough to consider its role as decisive. Turkey went beyond that of course. Thus, paying attention and estimating Turkey’s willingness to intervene on behalf of Azerbaijan would be critical for Armenia’s leadership. We of course have seen different members of the Pashinyan team assure the press and public, even weeks before the war, that Turkey would not dare intervene.
- Have you looked at this aspect of Armenia’s foreign policy?
- What did Pashinyan’s team do (or perhaps didn’t do) in this area to accurately assess the risk of intervention from Turkey and to put mitigations to counter this risk?
- Was there any specific contact with Turkey in the run-up to Sep 2020?
- How critical were Pashinyan’s and Armen Sarkissian’s statements on the 100th anniversary of Treaty of Sevres?
* RUSSIA ( 00:37:18) - Many, especially those in the pro-Pashinyan camp today, blame Russia for throwing Armenia under the bus for better relations with Turkey.
- What was the conduct of Pashinyan’s foreign policy with Russia like, preceding and during the war?
- Are the claims that Russia deceived its ally Armenia correct?
- Did Russia in recent years ever send a signal to Armenia that it would help defend Artsakh?
* AZERBAIJAN (00:46:56) - Many of the analysts we talk to state that it was pretty much obvious that Aliyev was gearing up for war starting from 2011 when he effectively rejected the peace deal being considered at the time. It is apparent that Azerbaijan also bid its time, preparing militarily but also tactically selecting a suitable period in time. In 2020, the world was preoccupied with Covid and in the US it was election season, as well as a period of near isolationism from foreign involvements in the Trump administration.
- Despite the external factors, was there anything that Armenia did bilaterally with Azerbaijan that could have delayed the war or helped change its outcome?
- What was the outcome of the infamous Dushanbe elevator meeting?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Guest:
- Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan, an associate Professor and Chair of the Political Science and International Affairs Program at AUA. His research interests focus on Turkish politics, Kemalism, Political Islam & Security in the South Caucasus.

Episode 164 | Recorded: Sunday, September 11, 2022</description><googleplay:description>From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process
Conversation with Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Armenian News Network/Groong - September 12, 2022
Recently two AUA professors (Prof. Hovhannes Nikoghosyan and Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan) published a paper in Taylor and Francis Online (TANDF) that analyzes the foreign policy decision making (FPDM) process of the Nikol Pashinyan administration, titled: "From ‘revolution’ to war: deciphering Armenia’s populist foreign policy-making process". In this episode, we talk to one of the authors of the paper, Prof. Ter-Matevosyan.
TOPICS:
* Opening (00:00:00)
* Introduction (00:02:22) - We discuss how the idea for the paper arose and the process through which the two scholars went through to conduct their research.
* TURKEY (00:22:51) - One specific aspect of the war, that played a significant role in the outcome, was Turkey’s involvement. In our opinion, just by sharing with Azerbaijan accurate NATO signals and satellite intelligence in the form of targets to destroy is more than enough to consider its role as decisive. Turkey went beyond that of course. Thus, paying attention and estimating Turkey’s willingness to intervene on behalf of Azerbaijan would be critical for Armenia’s leadership. We of course have seen different members of the Pashinyan team assure the press and public, even weeks before the war, that Turkey would not dare intervene.
- Have you looked at this aspect of Armenia’s foreign policy?
- What did Pashinyan’s team do (or perhaps didn’t do) in this area to accurately assess the risk of intervention from Turkey and to put mitigations to counter this risk?
- Was there any specific contact with Turkey in the run-up to Sep 2020?
- How critical were Pashinyan’s and Armen Sarkissian’s statements on the 100th anniversary of Treaty of Sevres?
* RUSSIA ( 00:37:18) - Many, especially those in the pro-Pashinyan camp today, blame Russia for throwing Armenia under the bus for better relations with Turkey.
- What was the conduct of Pashinyan’s foreign policy with Russia like, preceding and during the war?
- Are the claims that Russia deceived its ally Armenia correct?
- Did Russia in recent years ever send a signal to Armenia that it would help defend Artsakh?
* AZERBAIJAN (00:46:56) - Many of the analysts we talk to state that it was pretty much obvious that Aliyev was gearing up for war starting from 2011 when he effectively rejected the peace deal being considered at the time. It is apparent that Azerbaijan also bid its time, preparing militarily but also tactically selecting a suitable period in time. In 2020, the world was preoccupied with Covid and in the US it was election season, as well as a period of near isolationism from foreign involvements in the Trump administration.
- Despite the external factors, was there anything that Armenia did bilaterally with Azerbaijan that could have delayed the war or helped change its outcome?
- What was the outcome of the infamous Dushanbe elevator meeting?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Guest:
- Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan, an associate Professor and Chair of the Political Science and International Affairs Program at AUA. His research interests focus on Turkish politics, Kemalism, Political Islam & Security in the South Caucasus.

Episode 164 | Recorded: Sunday, September 11, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11308976-from-revolution-to-war-with-dr-vahram-ter-matevosyan-ep-164-sep-12-2022.mp3" length="44314356" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:01:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>MPG and IRI Polls | Armenian Economy | US Armenia Relations | Geopolitics | Ep 163 - Sep 11, 2022
[EP163]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/163-mpg-and-iri-polls-armenian-economy-us-armenia-relations-geopolitics-ep-163-sep-11-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2022 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11309015-mpg-and-iri-polls-armenian-economy-us-armenia-relations-geopolitics-ep-163-sep-11-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>163</itunes:episode><itunes:title>MPG and IRI Polls | Armenian Economy | US Armenia Relations | Geopolitics | Ep 163 - Sep 11, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 11, 2022

Topics:
* Latest MPG and IRI Poll Results
* What’s Up with the Armenian Economy?
* US Armenia Relations
* Geopolitical Developments

Index:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:52 Guests
00:01:18...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 11, 2022
Topics:
* Latest MPG and IRI Poll Results
* What’s Up with the Armenian Economy?
* US Armenia Relations
* Geopolitical Developments
Index:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:52 Guests
00:01:18 Topics
00:02:20 Greetings
00:02:24 MPG and IRI Poll Results
00:21:54 Armenian Economy Dynamics
00:37:13 US-Armenia Relations
00:48:06 Geopolitics, the War in Ukraine
00:55:14 Rants, Personal Statements
00:56:17 Good byes
00:56:27 Closing comments
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@hrant_m
* Suren Sargsyan - TW/@S_A_Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 163 | Recorded: Monday, September 12, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220911.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 11, 2022
Topics:
* Latest MPG and IRI Poll Results
* What’s Up with the Armenian Economy?
* US Armenia Relations
* Geopolitical Developments
Index:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:52 Guests
00:01:18 Topics
00:02:20 Greetings
00:02:24 MPG and IRI Poll Results
00:21:54 Armenian Economy Dynamics
00:37:13 US-Armenia Relations
00:48:06 Geopolitics, the War in Ukraine
00:55:14 Rants, Personal Statements
00:56:17 Good byes
00:56:27 Closing comments
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@hrant_m
* Suren Sargsyan - TW/@S_A_Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 163 | Recorded: Monday, September 12, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220911.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 11, 2022
Topics:
* Latest MPG and IRI Poll Results
* What’s Up with the Armenian Economy?
* US Armenia Relations
* Geopolitical Developments
Index:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:52 Guests
00:01:18 Topics
00:02:20 Greetings
00:02:24 MPG and IRI Poll Results
00:21:54 Armenian Economy Dynamics
00:37:13 US-Armenia Relations
00:48:06 Geopolitics, the War in Ukraine
00:55:14 Rants, Personal Statements
00:56:17 Good byes
00:56:27 Closing comments
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@hrant_m
* Suren Sargsyan - TW/@S_A_Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 163 | Recorded: Monday, September 12, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220911.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11309015-mpg-and-iri-polls-armenian-economy-us-armenia-relations-geopolitics-ep-163-sep-11-2022.mp3" length="40961505" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:56:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh Independence | Diplomacy | Normalization with Turkey | Gorbachev | Ep 162 - Sep 4, 2022
[EP162]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/162-artsakh-independence-diplomacy-normalization-with-turkey-gorbachev-ep-162-sep-4-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2022 00:24:07 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11267954-artsakh-independence-diplomacy-normalization-with-turkey-gorbachev-ep-162-sep-4-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>162</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh Independence | Diplomacy | Normalization with Turkey | Gorbachev | Ep 162 - Sep 4, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 4, 2022

Topics:
* September 2: Artsakh Independence Day
    * September 2 is a public holiday commemorating the day 31 years ago when the Nagorno Karabakh Republic declared independence from...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 4, 2022
Topics:
* September 2: Artsakh Independence Day
* September 2 is a public holiday commemorating the day 31 years ago when the Nagorno Karabakh Republic declared independence from the USSR. Before 2020, this would be a festive holiday. This year, there were protests in both Yerevan and Stepanakert as well as visits to the gravesites of fallen heroes.
* Developments in Geopolitics
* There were two major meetings this week between Armenia and Azerbaijan. On August 30, the deputy PMs met in Moscow, then on August 31, Pashinyan and Aliyev met in Brussels.
* “Normalization” with Turkey
* Next: we’ve read reports that the fifth meeting in the Turkish Armenian “Normalization” process will occur in September, so we'll discuss the pros and cons of that process with Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan.
* Remembering Mikhail Gorbachev
* As Mikhail Gorbachev passed away this past week, we’ll talk to Prof. Ara Sanjian and also Ter-Matevosyan for their recollections of the years leading up to, and following the fall of Soviet Union in 1991.
Timings
00:00:00 Start
00:00:06 Intro
00:00:57 Topics
00:02:15 September 2 & Opposition Reboot
00:05:38 Geopolitics - Moscow Meeting
00:14:39 Geopolitics - Brussels Meeting
00:20:20 Geopolitics - Reactions to the Meetings
00:31:48 Geopolitics - Cavusoglu on Syria
00:41:00 Turkish Armenian “Normalization” - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
00:58:48 Remembering Gorbachev - Ara Sanjian
01:11:45 Remembering Gorbachev - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
01:18:27 Personal Rants - Hovik
01:20:02 End of rants and goodbyes
01:20:13 Closing note
Guest:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Dr. Ara Sanjian
* Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 162 | Recorded: Sunday, September 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220904.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 4, 2022
Topics:
* September 2: Artsakh Independence Day
* September 2 is a public holiday commemorating the day 31 years ago when the Nagorno Karabakh Republic declared independence from the USSR. Before 2020, this would be a festive holiday. This year, there were protests in both Yerevan and Stepanakert as well as visits to the gravesites of fallen heroes.
* Developments in Geopolitics
* There were two major meetings this week between Armenia and Azerbaijan. On August 30, the deputy PMs met in Moscow, then on August 31, Pashinyan and Aliyev met in Brussels.
* “Normalization” with Turkey
* Next: we’ve read reports that the fifth meeting in the Turkish Armenian “Normalization” process will occur in September, so we'll discuss the pros and cons of that process with Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan.
* Remembering Mikhail Gorbachev
* As Mikhail Gorbachev passed away this past week, we’ll talk to Prof. Ara Sanjian and also Ter-Matevosyan for their recollections of the years leading up to, and following the fall of Soviet Union in 1991.
Timings
00:00:00 Start
00:00:06 Intro
00:00:57 Topics
00:02:15 September 2 & Opposition Reboot
00:05:38 Geopolitics - Moscow Meeting
00:14:39 Geopolitics - Brussels Meeting
00:20:20 Geopolitics - Reactions to the Meetings
00:31:48 Geopolitics - Cavusoglu on Syria
00:41:00 Turkish Armenian “Normalization” - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
00:58:48 Remembering Gorbachev - Ara Sanjian
01:11:45 Remembering Gorbachev - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
01:18:27 Personal Rants - Hovik
01:20:02 End of rants and goodbyes
01:20:13 Closing note
Guest:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Dr. Ara Sanjian
* Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 162 | Recorded: Sunday, September 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220904.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network - Groong Week in Review - Sep 4, 2022
Topics:
* September 2: Artsakh Independence Day
* September 2 is a public holiday commemorating the day 31 years ago when the Nagorno Karabakh Republic declared independence from the USSR. Before 2020, this would be a festive holiday. This year, there were protests in both Yerevan and Stepanakert as well as visits to the gravesites of fallen heroes.
* Developments in Geopolitics
* There were two major meetings this week between Armenia and Azerbaijan. On August 30, the deputy PMs met in Moscow, then on August 31, Pashinyan and Aliyev met in Brussels.
* “Normalization” with Turkey
* Next: we’ve read reports that the fifth meeting in the Turkish Armenian “Normalization” process will occur in September, so we'll discuss the pros and cons of that process with Prof. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan.
* Remembering Mikhail Gorbachev
* As Mikhail Gorbachev passed away this past week, we’ll talk to Prof. Ara Sanjian and also Ter-Matevosyan for their recollections of the years leading up to, and following the fall of Soviet Union in 1991.
Timings
00:00:00 Start
00:00:06 Intro
00:00:57 Topics
00:02:15 September 2 & Opposition Reboot
00:05:38 Geopolitics - Moscow Meeting
00:14:39 Geopolitics - Brussels Meeting
00:20:20 Geopolitics - Reactions to the Meetings
00:31:48 Geopolitics - Cavusoglu on Syria
00:41:00 Turkish Armenian “Normalization” - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
00:58:48 Remembering Gorbachev - Ara Sanjian
01:11:45 Remembering Gorbachev - Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
01:18:27 Personal Rants - Hovik
01:20:02 End of rants and goodbyes
01:20:13 Closing note
Guest:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Dr. Ara Sanjian
* Dr. Vahram Ter-Matevosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 162 | Recorded: Sunday, September 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220904.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11267954-artsakh-independence-diplomacy-normalization-with-turkey-gorbachev-ep-162-sep-4-2022.mp3" length="58054987" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:20:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Anna Abrahamian: The opposition must impeach | Ep 161 - Aug 29, 2022
[EP161]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/161-anna-abrahamian-the-opposition-must-impeach-ep-161-aug-29-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:43:36 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11224496-anna-abrahamian-the-opposition-must-impeach-ep-161-aug-29-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>161</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Abrahamian: The opposition must impeach | Ep 161 - Aug 29, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2022
Conversation with Anna Abrahamian

In the spring and summer of 2022 the Armenian parliamentary opposition was in the streets of Yerevan in large numbers, with a goal to remove the...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2022
Conversation with Anna Abrahamian
In the spring and summer of 2022 the Armenian parliamentary opposition was in the streets of Yerevan in large numbers, with a goal to remove the de-facto prime minister of Armenia, Nikol Pashinyan. That failed, or at least did not achieve all of the goals it had set for itself.
Especially as we near the end of August and the protests are set to restart, we’re analyzing what didn’t work, and how to take more effective steps forward. We want to look at specific issues such as whether to move for impeachment or not.
To talk about this issue, today we have Anna Abrahamian, who is a geopolitical analyst currently splitting her time between Moscow and Athens.
Guest: [Anna Abrahamian](guest/aabrahamian)
Hosts:
* [Hovik Manucharyan](host/hovik)
* [Asbed Bedrossian](host/asbed)
Episode 161 | Recorded: Sunday, August 29, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2022
Conversation with Anna Abrahamian
In the spring and summer of 2022 the Armenian parliamentary opposition was in the streets of Yerevan in large numbers, with a goal to remove the de-facto prime minister of Armenia, Nikol Pashinyan. That failed, or at least did not achieve all of the goals it had set for itself.
Especially as we near the end of August and the protests are set to restart, we’re analyzing what didn’t work, and how to take more effective steps forward. We want to look at specific issues such as whether to move for impeachment or not.
To talk about this issue, today we have Anna Abrahamian, who is a geopolitical analyst currently splitting her time between Moscow and Athens.
Guest: [Anna Abrahamian](guest/aabrahamian)
Hosts:
* [Hovik Manucharyan](host/hovik)
* [Asbed Bedrossian](host/asbed)
Episode 161 | Recorded: Sunday, August 29, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2022
Conversation with Anna Abrahamian
In the spring and summer of 2022 the Armenian parliamentary opposition was in the streets of Yerevan in large numbers, with a goal to remove the de-facto prime minister of Armenia, Nikol Pashinyan. That failed, or at least did not achieve all of the goals it had set for itself.
Especially as we near the end of August and the protests are set to restart, we’re analyzing what didn’t work, and how to take more effective steps forward. We want to look at specific issues such as whether to move for impeachment or not.
To talk about this issue, today we have Anna Abrahamian, who is a geopolitical analyst currently splitting her time between Moscow and Athens.
Guest: [Anna Abrahamian](guest/aabrahamian)
Hosts:
* [Hovik Manucharyan](host/hovik)
* [Asbed Bedrossian](host/asbed)
Episode 161 | Recorded: Sunday, August 29, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11224496-anna-abrahamian-the-opposition-must-impeach-ep-161-aug-29-2022.mp3" length="26971869" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:37:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Opposition restart | Berdzor &amp; Aghavno | "Peace Plan" | Military service | Ep 160 - Aug 28, 2022
[EP160]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/160-arthur-khachikyan-opposition-restart-berdzor-aghavno-peace-plan-military-service-avoidance-law/</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:40:11 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11218675-opposition-restart-berdzor-aghavno-peace-plan-military-service-avoidance-law-ep-160-aug-28-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>160</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Opposition restart | Berdzor &amp; Aghavno | "Peace Plan" | Military service | Ep 160 - Aug 28, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022

Topics:

- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:02 Opposition movement restarts
- 25:28 Berdzor &amp; Aghavno handover
- 34:43 “Peace Plan” coming?
- 49:54 Newly proposed military service avoidance...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:02 Opposition movement restarts
- 25:28 Berdzor & Aghavno handover
- 34:43 “Peace Plan” coming?
- 49:54 Newly proposed military service avoidance law
- 54:15 Rant
Guest: Dr. Arthur Khachikyan
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 160 | Recorded: Sunday, August 28, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220828.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:02 Opposition movement restarts
- 25:28 Berdzor & Aghavno handover
- 34:43 “Peace Plan” coming?
- 49:54 Newly proposed military service avoidance law
- 54:15 Rant
Guest: Dr. Arthur Khachikyan
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 160 | Recorded: Sunday, August 28, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220828.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:02 Opposition movement restarts
- 25:28 Berdzor & Aghavno handover
- 34:43 “Peace Plan” coming?
- 49:54 Newly proposed military service avoidance law
- 54:15 Rant
Guest: Dr. Arthur Khachikyan
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 160 | Recorded: Sunday, August 28, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220828.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11218675-opposition-restart-berdzor-aghavno-peace-plan-military-service-avoidance-law-ep-160-aug-28-2022.mp3" length="40237164" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Էդգար Ղազարյան | Edgar Ghazaryan | Ep #159 - Aug 26, 2022
[EP159]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/159-edgar-ghazaryan-ep-159-aug-26-2022/</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2022 13:47:58 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11210517-edgar-ghazaryan-ep-159-aug-26-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>159</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Էդգար Ղազարյան | Edgar Ghazaryan | Ep #159 - Aug 26, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network / Groong

Ներքաղաքանան իրավիճակը Հայաստանում Էդգար Ղազարյանի հետ
The State of Armenian Politics with Edgar Ghazaryan

Թեմաներ:
- Անկախության հռչակագիր
- Օգոստոսի 23-ի հանրահավաքը
- Անվստահության քվե (իմպիչմենտ)
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network / Groong
Ներքաղաքանան իրավիճակը Հայաստանում Էդգար Ղազարյանի հետ
The State of Armenian Politics with Edgar Ghazaryan
Թեմաներ:
- Անկախության հռչակագիր
- Օգոստոսի 23-ի հանրահավաքը
- Անվստահության քվե (իմպիչմենտ)
- Փաշինյանն ըննդեմ Սահմանադրության
- Ընդդիմության առաջիկա անելիքների մասին
Մեր հյուրը`
* Էդգար Ղազարյան, Վայոց Ձորի նախկին մարզպետ, սահմանադրական դատարանի աշխատակազմի նախկին ղեկավար, Լեհաստանի Հանրապետությունում ՀՀ նախկին արտակարգ և լիազոր դեսպան:
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 159 | Recorded on Friday, August 26, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220826.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network / Groong
Ներքաղաքանան իրավիճակը Հայաստանում Էդգար Ղազարյանի հետ
The State of Armenian Politics with Edgar Ghazaryan
Թեմաներ:
- Անկախության հռչակագիր
- Օգոստոսի 23-ի հանրահավաքը
- Անվստահության քվե (իմպիչմենտ)
- Փաշինյանն ըննդեմ Սահմանադրության
- Ընդդիմության առաջիկա անելիքների մասին
Մեր հյուրը`
* Էդգար Ղազարյան, Վայոց Ձորի նախկին մարզպետ, սահմանադրական դատարանի աշխատակազմի նախկին ղեկավար, Լեհաստանի Հանրապետությունում ՀՀ նախկին արտակարգ և լիազոր դեսպան:
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 159 | Recorded on Friday, August 26, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220826.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network / Groong
Ներքաղաքանան իրավիճակը Հայաստանում Էդգար Ղազարյանի հետ
The State of Armenian Politics with Edgar Ghazaryan
Թեմաներ:
- Անկախության հռչակագիր
- Օգոստոսի 23-ի հանրահավաքը
- Անվստահության քվե (իմպիչմենտ)
- Փաշինյանն ըննդեմ Սահմանադրության
- Ընդդիմության առաջիկա անելիքների մասին
Մեր հյուրը`
* Էդգար Ղազարյան, Վայոց Ձորի նախկին մարզպետ, սահմանադրական դատարանի աշխատակազմի նախկին ղեկավար, Լեհաստանի Հանրապետությունում ՀՀ նախկին արտակարգ և լիազոր դեսպան:
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 159 | Recorded on Friday, August 26, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220826.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11210517-edgar-ghazaryan-ep-159-aug-26-2022.mp3" length="38234519" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:53:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked | Ep #158 - Aug 25, 2022
[EP158]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/158-aram-hamparian--aid-to-nagorno-karabakh-effectively-blocked/</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2022 08:58:41 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11202998-aid-to-nagorno-karabakh-effectively-blocked-ep-158-august-25-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>158</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked | Ep #158 - Aug 25, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked - August 25, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN

Topics:
* The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) Has Called on Congress to Investigate the Biden Administration’s Artsakh Aid...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked - August 25, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) Has Called on Congress to Investigate the Biden Administration’s Artsakh Aid Blockade.
* The Biden Administration’s Record on Armenian-Backed Resolutions.
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 158 | Recorded on Thursday, August 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220825.html</itunes:summary><description>Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked - August 25, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) Has Called on Congress to Investigate the Biden Administration’s Artsakh Aid Blockade.
* The Biden Administration’s Record on Armenian-Backed Resolutions.
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 158 | Recorded on Thursday, August 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220825.html</description><googleplay:description>Aid to Nagorno Karabakh Effectively Blocked - August 25, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) Has Called on Congress to Investigate the Biden Administration’s Artsakh Aid Blockade.
* The Biden Administration’s Record on Armenian-Backed Resolutions.
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 158 | Recorded on Thursday, August 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220825.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11202998-aid-to-nagorno-karabakh-effectively-blocked-ep-158-august-25-2022.mp3" length="9900085" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:13:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>August 23 - Declaration of Independence of The Republic of Armenia | Ep #157 - Aug 23, 2022
[EP157]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/157-august-23-declaration-of-independence-of-the-republic-of-armenia-ep-157-aug-23-2022/</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2022 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11202663-august-23-declaration-of-independence-of-the-republic-of-armenia-ep-157-aug-23-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>157</itunes:episode><itunes:title>August 23 - Declaration of Independence of The Republic of Armenia | Ep #157 - Aug 23, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong - August 23, 2022

On August 23, 1990 the Supreme Council of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic proclaimed Armenia as independent. 

True, Armenia officially celebrates independence day on September 21, due to...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong - August 23, 2022
On August 23, 1990 the Supreme Council of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic proclaimed Armenia as independent.
True, Armenia officially celebrates independence day on September 21, due to the referendum which was held on Sep 21 1991, the following year. But for me, the date of August 23 - the date of the proclamation of the declaration of independence - is no less special.
For it is this document comprised of 12 articles that form the basis for all laws in Armenia and for the constitution itself. From the need to establish historic justice, especially referencing the Armenian Genocide, the reunification of Armenia and Artsakh, the recognition of the rights of citizenship for Diasporans, to me these principles encapsulate perfectly the aspirations of the Armenian people at that time and even more so today.
After a millennium without a state (with the exception of the three years of the first republic between 1918 and 1921) the foundation for a new state was established.
This document and the principles enshrined in it are to be cherished and protected! And regardless of their individual flaws or your political judgement, the men and women of the Supreme Council are true statesmen and the founding parents of Armenia.
Just think about it! Out of a global family of 1000s of nations and tribes, only a few were lucky enough or had the right circumstances in order to establish their own state and become a political nation. And Armenians were one of them.
Links to the text of the declaration:
- Armenian: https://www.gov.am/am/independence/
- Russian: https://www.gov.am/ru/independence/
- English: http://www.armenica.org/armenia/doi.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong - August 23, 2022
On August 23, 1990 the Supreme Council of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic proclaimed Armenia as independent.
True, Armenia officially celebrates independence day on September 21, due to the referendum which was held on Sep 21 1991, the following year. But for me, the date of August 23 - the date of the proclamation of the declaration of independence - is no less special.
For it is this document comprised of 12 articles that form the basis for all laws in Armenia and for the constitution itself. From the need to establish historic justice, especially referencing the Armenian Genocide, the reunification of Armenia and Artsakh, the recognition of the rights of citizenship for Diasporans, to me these principles encapsulate perfectly the aspirations of the Armenian people at that time and even more so today.
After a millennium without a state (with the exception of the three years of the first republic between 1918 and 1921) the foundation for a new state was established.
This document and the principles enshrined in it are to be cherished and protected! And regardless of their individual flaws or your political judgement, the men and women of the Supreme Council are true statesmen and the founding parents of Armenia.
Just think about it! Out of a global family of 1000s of nations and tribes, only a few were lucky enough or had the right circumstances in order to establish their own state and become a political nation. And Armenians were one of them.
Links to the text of the declaration:
- Armenian: https://www.gov.am/am/independence/
- Russian: https://www.gov.am/ru/independence/
- English: http://www.armenica.org/armenia/doi.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong - August 23, 2022
On August 23, 1990 the Supreme Council of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic proclaimed Armenia as independent.
True, Armenia officially celebrates independence day on September 21, due to the referendum which was held on Sep 21 1991, the following year. But for me, the date of August 23 - the date of the proclamation of the declaration of independence - is no less special.
For it is this document comprised of 12 articles that form the basis for all laws in Armenia and for the constitution itself. From the need to establish historic justice, especially referencing the Armenian Genocide, the reunification of Armenia and Artsakh, the recognition of the rights of citizenship for Diasporans, to me these principles encapsulate perfectly the aspirations of the Armenian people at that time and even more so today.
After a millennium without a state (with the exception of the three years of the first republic between 1918 and 1921) the foundation for a new state was established.
This document and the principles enshrined in it are to be cherished and protected! And regardless of their individual flaws or your political judgement, the men and women of the Supreme Council are true statesmen and the founding parents of Armenia.
Just think about it! Out of a global family of 1000s of nations and tribes, only a few were lucky enough or had the right circumstances in order to establish their own state and become a political nation. And Armenians were one of them.
Links to the text of the declaration:
- Armenian: https://www.gov.am/am/independence/
- Russian: https://www.gov.am/ru/independence/
- English: http://www.armenica.org/armenia/doi.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11202663-august-23-declaration-of-independence-of-the-republic-of-armenia-ep-157-aug-23-2022.mp3" length="5296791" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:07:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Surmalu Blast | Foreign Relations | Resistance Movement | Ep #156 - Aug 21, 2022
[EP156]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/156-benyamin-poghosyan-surmalu-blast-foreign-relations-resistance-movement/</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 18:49:11 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11184221-surmalu-blast-foreign-relations-resistance-movement-ep-156-aug-21-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>156</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Surmalu Blast | Foreign Relations | Resistance Movement | Ep #156 - Aug 21, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022

Topics:

- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:44 Surmalu Blast
    - 01:44 What happened in Surmalu market?
    - 07:41 Why did Pashinyan jump the gun to declare that it's not terrorism?...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:44 Surmalu Blast
- 01:44 What happened in Surmalu market?
- 07:41 Why did Pashinyan jump the gun to declare that it's not terrorism?
- 08:45 Russian note of protest on anti-Russian sentiments in information sphere
- 12:55 A mayoral campaign in the midst of tragedy?
- 19:01 Policy response: ban fireworks?
- 21:52 Foreign Relations
- 21:52 Aliyev rejects Artsakh status
- 28:26 Aghavno/Berdzor handed over
- 41:50 Papikyan in Moscow
- 43:28 Iranian red lines, again
- 48:03 Checkpoints for Azerbaijan
- 53:48 Resistance Movement
- 1:01:12 Ending
Guests:
- Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 156 | Recorded: Monday, August 22, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220821.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:44 Surmalu Blast
- 01:44 What happened in Surmalu market?
- 07:41 Why did Pashinyan jump the gun to declare that it's not terrorism?
- 08:45 Russian note of protest on anti-Russian sentiments in information sphere
- 12:55 A mayoral campaign in the midst of tragedy?
- 19:01 Policy response: ban fireworks?
- 21:52 Foreign Relations
- 21:52 Aliyev rejects Artsakh status
- 28:26 Aghavno/Berdzor handed over
- 41:50 Papikyan in Moscow
- 43:28 Iranian red lines, again
- 48:03 Checkpoints for Azerbaijan
- 53:48 Resistance Movement
- 1:01:12 Ending
Guests:
- Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 156 | Recorded: Monday, August 22, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220821.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - August 21, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:44 Surmalu Blast
- 01:44 What happened in Surmalu market?
- 07:41 Why did Pashinyan jump the gun to declare that it's not terrorism?
- 08:45 Russian note of protest on anti-Russian sentiments in information sphere
- 12:55 A mayoral campaign in the midst of tragedy?
- 19:01 Policy response: ban fireworks?
- 21:52 Foreign Relations
- 21:52 Aliyev rejects Artsakh status
- 28:26 Aghavno/Berdzor handed over
- 41:50 Papikyan in Moscow
- 43:28 Iranian red lines, again
- 48:03 Checkpoints for Azerbaijan
- 53:48 Resistance Movement
- 1:01:12 Ending
Guests:
- Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 156 | Recorded: Monday, August 22, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220821.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11184221-surmalu-blast-foreign-relations-resistance-movement-ep-156-aug-21-2022.mp3" length="45717079" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:03:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART2: Bank Secrecy | Cashless Transactions | Ep #155 - August 12, 2022
[EP155]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/155-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part-2-bank-secrecy-cashless-transactions-ep-155-august-12-2022/</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11124687-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part-2-bank-secrecy-cashless-transactions-ep-155-august-12-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>155</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART2: Bank Secrecy | Cashless Transactions | Ep #155 - August 12, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 2
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan

Topics:

  - Bank Secrecy Legislation
  - Cashless Transactions
  - Explaining Economic “Paradox”

Guest:

Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 2
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
- Bank Secrecy Legislation
- Cashless Transactions
- Explaining Economic “Paradox”
Guest:
Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 155 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 2
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
- Bank Secrecy Legislation
- Cashless Transactions
- Explaining Economic “Paradox”
Guest:
Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 155 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 2
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
- Bank Secrecy Legislation
- Cashless Transactions
- Explaining Economic “Paradox”
Guest:
Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 155 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11124687-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part-2-bank-secrecy-cashless-transactions-ep-155-august-12-2022.mp3" length="29374706" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:40:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART1: Inflation | Fiscal/Monetary Policies | Ep #154 - August 11, 2022
[EP154]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/154-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part1-inflation-fiscal-policy-monetary-policy-ep-154-august-11-2022/</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:15:33 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11124608-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part1-inflation-fiscal-policy-monetary-policy-ep-154-august-11-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>154</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART1: Inflation | Fiscal/Monetary Policies | Ep #154 - August 11, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 1
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan

Topics:
 * Inflation
 * Monetary Policies
 * Fiscal Policies

Guest:
 * Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 1
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
* Inflation
* Monetary Policies
* Fiscal Policies
Guest:
* Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220812.html
Episode 154 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 1
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
* Inflation
* Monetary Policies
* Fiscal Policies
Guest:
* Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220812.html
Episode 154 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Armenia’s Economy in 2022 - PART 1
Conversation with Vardan Aramyan
Topics:
* Inflation
* Monetary Policies
* Fiscal Policies
Guest:
* Mr. Vardan Aramyan is the former Minister of Finance of the Republic of Armenia from 2016-2018. He is currently Senior Vice President for Finance and Economy at Vallex Group in Yerevan.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220812.html
Episode 154 | Recorded on Friday, August 5, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11124608-armenia-s-economy-in-2022-part1-inflation-fiscal-policy-monetary-policy-ep-154-august-11-2022.mp3" length="42062705" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:58:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022
[EP153]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/153-anna-astvatsaturian-turcotte-conversation/</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:40:53 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11120812-talking-with-anna-astvatsaturian-turcotte-ep-153-august-11-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>153</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Talking with Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022

* Growing up Armenian in Azerbaijan
* Experiencing Armenia as an Armenian from Azerbaijan
* Advocating for Armenian Families and Children
* Thoughts on the condition of...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Talking with Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022
* Growing up Armenian in Azerbaijan
* Experiencing Armenia as an Armenian from Azerbaijan
* Advocating for Armenian Families and Children
* Thoughts on the condition of Artsakh, and Armenia
* The projects in progress at Astvatsaturian.org, Anna’s 501c3 charity organization.
Guest:
* Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte is an Armenian-American author, city counselor, human rights advocate, and also a refugee from her original city of Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan, which her family fled, as violence mounted against Armenians. TW/@AnnaATurcotte
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 153 | Recorded on Sunday, August 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220811.html</itunes:summary><description>Talking with Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022
* Growing up Armenian in Azerbaijan
* Experiencing Armenia as an Armenian from Azerbaijan
* Advocating for Armenian Families and Children
* Thoughts on the condition of Artsakh, and Armenia
* The projects in progress at Astvatsaturian.org, Anna’s 501c3 charity organization.
Guest:
* Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte is an Armenian-American author, city counselor, human rights advocate, and also a refugee from her original city of Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan, which her family fled, as violence mounted against Armenians. TW/@AnnaATurcotte
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 153 | Recorded on Sunday, August 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220811.html</description><googleplay:description>Talking with Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte | Ep 153 - August 11, 2022
* Growing up Armenian in Azerbaijan
* Experiencing Armenia as an Armenian from Azerbaijan
* Advocating for Armenian Families and Children
* Thoughts on the condition of Artsakh, and Armenia
* The projects in progress at Astvatsaturian.org, Anna’s 501c3 charity organization.
Guest:
* Anna Astvatsaturian Turcotte is an Armenian-American author, city counselor, human rights advocate, and also a refugee from her original city of Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan, which her family fled, as violence mounted against Armenians. TW/@AnnaATurcotte
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 153 | Recorded on Sunday, August 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220811.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11120812-talking-with-anna-astvatsaturian-turcotte-ep-153-august-11-2022.mp3" length="27806704" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:38:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Azerbaijan Attacks | Evacuating Berdzor &amp; Aghavno | Chalabyan Re-arrested | Ep #152 - Aug 7, 2022
[EP152]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/152-benyamin-poghosyan-azerbaijan-attacks-evacuating-berdzor-aghavno-chalabyan-rearrested/</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2022 01:14:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11105886-azerbaijan-attacks-evacuating-berdzor-aghavno-chalabyan-re-arrested-ep-152-aug-7-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>152</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Azerbaijan Attacks | Evacuating Berdzor &amp; Aghavno | Chalabyan Re-arrested | Ep #152 - Aug 7, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 7, 2022

Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh Again
    * Armenian &amp; Artsakh Authorities Evacuating Berdzor &amp; Aghavno Population
* Avetik Chalabyan Re-arrested

Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan -...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 7, 2022
Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh Again
* Armenian & Artsakh Authorities Evacuating Berdzor & Aghavno Population
* Avetik Chalabyan Re-arrested
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 152 | Recorded: Monday, August 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220807.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 7, 2022
Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh Again
* Armenian & Artsakh Authorities Evacuating Berdzor & Aghavno Population
* Avetik Chalabyan Re-arrested
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 152 | Recorded: Monday, August 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220807.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 7, 2022
Topics:
* Azerbaijan Attacks Artsakh Again
* Armenian & Artsakh Authorities Evacuating Berdzor & Aghavno Population
* Avetik Chalabyan Re-arrested
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan - TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 152 | Recorded: Monday, August 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220807.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11105886-azerbaijan-attacks-evacuating-berdzor-aghavno-chalabyan-re-arrested-ep-152-aug-7-2022.mp3" length="36564786" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Live from Aghavno with Alison Tahmizian Meuse | Ep #151 - Aug 7, 2022
[EP151]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/151-live-from-aghavno-with-alison-tahmizian-meuse-ep-151-aug-7-2022/</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2022 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11096656-live-from-aghavno-with-alison-tahmizian-meuse-ep-151-aug-7-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>151</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Live from Aghavno with Alison Tahmizian Meuse | Ep #151 - Aug 7, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        This is a live recording of our Twitter Spaces discussion from August 7, 2022 with Alison Tahmizian Meuse who joined us from Aghavno.

The situation in Berdzor/Aghavno is quite concerning as residents were told to vacate their homes, their...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>This is a live recording of our Twitter Spaces discussion from August 7, 2022 with Alison Tahmizian Meuse who joined us from Aghavno.
The situation in Berdzor/Aghavno is quite concerning as residents were told to vacate their homes, their town and their homeland by August 25.
Guest: Alison Tahmizian Meuse
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 151 | Recorded on August 7, 2022</itunes:summary><description>This is a live recording of our Twitter Spaces discussion from August 7, 2022 with Alison Tahmizian Meuse who joined us from Aghavno.
The situation in Berdzor/Aghavno is quite concerning as residents were told to vacate their homes, their town and their homeland by August 25.
Guest: Alison Tahmizian Meuse
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 151 | Recorded on August 7, 2022</description><googleplay:description>This is a live recording of our Twitter Spaces discussion from August 7, 2022 with Alison Tahmizian Meuse who joined us from Aghavno.
The situation in Berdzor/Aghavno is quite concerning as residents were told to vacate their homes, their town and their homeland by August 25.
Guest: Alison Tahmizian Meuse
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 151 | Recorded on August 7, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11096656-live-from-aghavno-with-alison-tahmizian-meuse-ep-151-aug-7-2022.mp3" length="26016133" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ - The Situation Around Berdzor (Armenian)
[EP150]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/150-the-situation-around-berdzor-armenian-ep-150-aug-7-2022/</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2022 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11096231-the-situation-around-berdzor-armenian-ep-150-aug-7-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>150</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ - The Situation Around Berdzor (Armenian)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Situation Around Berdzor with Hakob Hakobyan and Davit Galstyan

Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ Հակոբ Հակոբյանի և Դավիթ Գալստյանի հետ

Guests / Հյուրեր:

- [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan), co-chair of the Artsakh Justice Party.
Հակոբ Հակոբյան,...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The Situation Around Berdzor with Hakob Hakobyan and Davit Galstyan
Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ Հակոբ Հակոբյանի և Դավիթ Գալստյանի հետ
Guests / Հյուրեր:
- [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan), co-chair of the Artsakh Justice Party.
Հակոբ Հակոբյան, Արցախի Արդարություն Կուսակցության նախագահ:
- David Galstyan(/guest/dgalstyan), leader of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh. Դավիթ Գալստյան, Արցախի Հանրապետության Ազգային Ժողովի պատգամավոր և «Արդարություն» խմբակցության ղեկավար։
Episode 150 | Recorded on August 7, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220807.html</itunes:summary><description>The Situation Around Berdzor with Hakob Hakobyan and Davit Galstyan
Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ Հակոբ Հակոբյանի և Դավիթ Գալստյանի հետ
Guests / Հյուրեր:
- [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan), co-chair of the Artsakh Justice Party.
Հակոբ Հակոբյան, Արցախի Արդարություն Կուսակցության նախագահ:
- David Galstyan(/guest/dgalstyan), leader of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh. Դավիթ Գալստյան, Արցախի Հանրապետության Ազգային Ժողովի պատգամավոր և «Արդարություն» խմբակցության ղեկավար։
Episode 150 | Recorded on August 7, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220807.html</description><googleplay:description>The Situation Around Berdzor with Hakob Hakobyan and Davit Galstyan
Իրավիճակը Բերձորի շուրջ Հակոբ Հակոբյանի և Դավիթ Գալստյանի հետ
Guests / Հյուրեր:
- [Hakob Hakobyan](/guest/hhakobyan), co-chair of the Artsakh Justice Party.
Հակոբ Հակոբյան, Արցախի Արդարություն Կուսակցության նախագահ:
- David Galstyan(/guest/dgalstyan), leader of the Justice faction in the National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh. Դավիթ Գալստյան, Արցախի Հանրապետության Ազգային Ժողովի պատգամավոր և «Արդարություն» խմբակցության ղեկավար։
Episode 150 | Recorded on August 7, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220807.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11096231-the-situation-around-berdzor-armenian-ep-150-aug-7-2022.mp3" length="23495252" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:32:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tehran 2022 | Normalization | EU-Azerbaijan Gas Deal | Personae Non Grata | Ep #149 - July 31, 2022
[EP149]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/149-tehran-2022-normalization-or-pax-turkiana-eu-azerbaijan-gas-deal-diaspora-personae-non-grata-ep-149-july-31-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 00:43:54 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11067273-tehran-2022-normalization-or-pax-turkiana-eu-azerbaijan-gas-deal-diaspora-personae-non-grata-ep-149-july-31-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>149</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tehran 2022 | Normalization | EU-Azerbaijan Gas Deal | Personae Non Grata | Ep #149 - July 31, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 31, 2022

Topics:
* Tehran 2022 Trilateral Summit
* “Normalization” or Pax Turkiana?
* EU - Azerbaijan gas deal
* Diaspora Personae Non-Grata

Guests:
* Yeghia Tashjian - TW/@yeghig

Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 31, 2022
Topics:
* Tehran 2022 Trilateral Summit
* “Normalization” or Pax Turkiana?
* EU - Azerbaijan gas deal
* Diaspora Personae Non-Grata
Guests:
* Yeghia Tashjian - TW/@yeghig
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 149 | Recorded: Monday, July 31, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220731.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 31, 2022
Topics:
* Tehran 2022 Trilateral Summit
* “Normalization” or Pax Turkiana?
* EU - Azerbaijan gas deal
* Diaspora Personae Non-Grata
Guests:
* Yeghia Tashjian - TW/@yeghig
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 149 | Recorded: Monday, July 31, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220731.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 31, 2022
Topics:
* Tehran 2022 Trilateral Summit
* “Normalization” or Pax Turkiana?
* EU - Azerbaijan gas deal
* Diaspora Personae Non-Grata
Guests:
* Yeghia Tashjian - TW/@yeghig
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 149 | Recorded: Monday, July 31, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220731.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/11067273-tehran-2022-normalization-or-pax-turkiana-eu-azerbaijan-gas-deal-diaspora-personae-non-grata-ep-149-july-31-2022.mp3" length="20556896" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:28:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tevan Poghosyan: CIA in EVN | Armen Grigoryan | Papazian Banned | FMs Meet | Ep #148 - July 17, 2022
[EP148]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/148-spy-chiefs-in-yerevan-armen-grigoryan-dies-in-court-mourad-papazian-banned-am-az-fms-meet-ep-148-july-17-2022/</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:50:16 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10991685-spy-chiefs-in-yerevan-armen-grigoryan-dies-in-court-mourad-papazian-banned-am-az-fms-meet-ep-148-july-17-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>148</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan: CIA in EVN | Armen Grigoryan | Papazian Banned | FMs Meet | Ep #148 - July 17, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 17, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:30 CIA Chief in Armenia
* 00:18:26 Army Chief Appointed
* 00:30:41 Armen Grigoryan Dies in Court
* 00:45:14 Mourad Papazian is Denied Entry in...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 17, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:30 CIA Chief in Armenia
* 00:18:26 Army Chief Appointed
* 00:30:41 Armen Grigoryan Dies in Court
* 00:45:14 Mourad Papazian is Denied Entry in Armenia
* 00:57:04 Bayramov and Mirzoyan in Tbilisi
* 01:06:11 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan - TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 148 | Recorded: Monday, July 19, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220717.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 17, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:30 CIA Chief in Armenia
* 00:18:26 Army Chief Appointed
* 00:30:41 Armen Grigoryan Dies in Court
* 00:45:14 Mourad Papazian is Denied Entry in Armenia
* 00:57:04 Bayramov and Mirzoyan in Tbilisi
* 01:06:11 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan - TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 148 | Recorded: Monday, July 19, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220717.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 17, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:30 CIA Chief in Armenia
* 00:18:26 Army Chief Appointed
* 00:30:41 Armen Grigoryan Dies in Court
* 00:45:14 Mourad Papazian is Denied Entry in Armenia
* 00:57:04 Bayramov and Mirzoyan in Tbilisi
* 01:06:11 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan - TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 148 | Recorded: Monday, July 19, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220717.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10991685-spy-chiefs-in-yerevan-armen-grigoryan-dies-in-court-mourad-papazian-banned-am-az-fms-meet-ep-148-july-17-2022.mp3" length="51155546" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:10:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian, Mayor of Glendale, California | Ep #147 - July 14, 2022
[EP147]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/147-a-conversation-with-ardashes-ardy-kassakhian-ep-147-july-14-2022/</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:58:45 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10964418-a-conversation-with-ardashes-ardy-kassakhian-ep-147-july-14-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>147</itunes:episode><itunes:title>A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian, Mayor of Glendale, California | Ep #147 - July 14, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong: Current Topics with the Mayor of Glendale - July 14, 2022
A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian

Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:33 Mayor and Councilman of Glendale
- 21:45 June 2022 Elections
- 29:03 US National...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong: Current Topics with the Mayor of Glendale - July 14, 2022
A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:33 Mayor and Councilman of Glendale
- 21:45 June 2022 Elections
- 29:03 US National Politics
- 37:43 Armenian-American Political Advocacy
- 53:55 Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
- 58:00 Relations between Glendale and Armenia
Guest:
- 𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐬 ‘𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐲’ 𝐊𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐤𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a Glendale City Councilman and the current mayor of Glendale.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 147 | Recorded on Wednesday, July 13, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220714.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong: Current Topics with the Mayor of Glendale - July 14, 2022
A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:33 Mayor and Councilman of Glendale
- 21:45 June 2022 Elections
- 29:03 US National Politics
- 37:43 Armenian-American Political Advocacy
- 53:55 Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
- 58:00 Relations between Glendale and Armenia
Guest:
- 𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐬 ‘𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐲’ 𝐊𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐤𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a Glendale City Councilman and the current mayor of Glendale.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 147 | Recorded on Wednesday, July 13, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220714.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong: Current Topics with the Mayor of Glendale - July 14, 2022
A Conversation with Ardy Kassakhian
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:33 Mayor and Councilman of Glendale
- 21:45 June 2022 Elections
- 29:03 US National Politics
- 37:43 Armenian-American Political Advocacy
- 53:55 Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
- 58:00 Relations between Glendale and Armenia
Guest:
- 𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐬 ‘𝐀𝐫𝐝𝐲’ 𝐊𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐤𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a Glendale City Councilman and the current mayor of Glendale.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 147 | Recorded on Wednesday, July 13, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220714.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10964418-a-conversation-with-ardashes-ardy-kassakhian-ep-147-july-14-2022.mp3" length="58011920" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:20:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Developments in Regional Geopolitics and Censorship Laws | Ep #146 - July 10, 2022
[EP146]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/146-developments-in-regional-geopolitics-and-censorship-laws-ep-146-july-10-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2022 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10946656-developments-in-regional-geopolitics-and-censorship-laws-ep-146-july-10-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>146</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Developments in Regional Geopolitics and Censorship Laws | Ep #146 - July 10, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 10, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:40 Developments in the Regional Geopolitics
* 47:53 Watch your Internets!
* 55:58 Rants


Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
* Dr. Benyamin...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 10, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:40 Developments in the Regional Geopolitics
* 47:53 Watch your Internets!
* 55:58 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 146 | Recorded: Monday, July 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220710.html
#armenian #news</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 10, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:40 Developments in the Regional Geopolitics
* 47:53 Watch your Internets!
* 55:58 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 146 | Recorded: Monday, July 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220710.html
#armenian #news</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - July 10, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:40 Developments in the Regional Geopolitics
* 47:53 Watch your Internets!
* 55:58 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 146 | Recorded: Monday, July 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220710.html
#armenian #news</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10946656-developments-in-regional-geopolitics-and-censorship-laws-ep-146-july-10-2022.mp3" length="42875487" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:59:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - Sedda Antekelian and Gegham Mughnetsyan | Ep #145 - July 9 2022
[EP145]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/145-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-sedda-antekelian-and-gegham-mughnetsyan-ep-145-july-9-2022/</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2022 00:13:55 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10933475-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-sedda-antekelian-and-gegham-mughnetsyan-ep-145-july-9-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>145</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - Sedda Antekelian and Gegham Mughnetsyan | Ep #145 - July 9 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Armenian Diaspora Survey - July 9, 2022

Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Survey Resources
* Survey Objectives and Benefits
* Why Diaspora Armenians should take the Survey


Guests:
* Sedda Antekelian is a Learning and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - July 9, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Survey Resources
* Survey Objectives and Benefits
* Why Diaspora Armenians should take the Survey
Guests:
* Sedda Antekelian is a Learning and Development Specialist at the USC Shoah Foundation Institute and a doctoral student in USC Rossier's Global Executive Doctor of Education program.
* Gegham Mughnetsyan is the Chitjian Researcher Archivist at the USC Dornsife Institute of Armenian Studies, and a specialist in International Affairs, focusing on Peace and Conflict, and US foreign policy toward Nagorno Karabakh. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 145 | Recorded on Saturday, July 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220709.html</itunes:summary><description>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - July 9, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Survey Resources
* Survey Objectives and Benefits
* Why Diaspora Armenians should take the Survey
Guests:
* Sedda Antekelian is a Learning and Development Specialist at the USC Shoah Foundation Institute and a doctoral student in USC Rossier's Global Executive Doctor of Education program.
* Gegham Mughnetsyan is the Chitjian Researcher Archivist at the USC Dornsife Institute of Armenian Studies, and a specialist in International Affairs, focusing on Peace and Conflict, and US foreign policy toward Nagorno Karabakh. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 145 | Recorded on Saturday, July 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220709.html</description><googleplay:description>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - July 9, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Survey Resources
* Survey Objectives and Benefits
* Why Diaspora Armenians should take the Survey
Guests:
* Sedda Antekelian is a Learning and Development Specialist at the USC Shoah Foundation Institute and a doctoral student in USC Rossier's Global Executive Doctor of Education program.
* Gegham Mughnetsyan is the Chitjian Researcher Archivist at the USC Dornsife Institute of Armenian Studies, and a specialist in International Affairs, focusing on Peace and Conflict, and US foreign policy toward Nagorno Karabakh. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 145 | Recorded on Saturday, July 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220709.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10933475-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-sedda-antekelian-and-gegham-mughnetsyan-ep-145-july-9-2022.mp3" length="14537875" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:20:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>OSCE MG | Aparan Murders | Vanetsyan Resigns | Jhangiryan Doesn’t | Ep #144 - Jun 26, 2022
[EP144]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/144-osce-mg-aparan-murders-vanetsyan-resigns-jhangiryan-doesn-t-ep-144-jun-26-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 10:35:41 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10869681-osce-mg-aparan-murders-vanetsyan-resigns-jhangiryan-doesn-t-ep-144-jun-26-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>144</itunes:episode><itunes:title>OSCE MG | Aparan Murders | Vanetsyan Resigns | Jhangiryan Doesn’t | Ep #144 - Jun 26, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 26, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 02:08 Who killed the OSCE Minsk Group?
* 21:36 Murders in Aparan
* 27:01 Arthur Vanetsyan Resigns from Parliament
* 38:51 Gagik Jhangiryan in the Line...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 26, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 02:08 Who killed the OSCE Minsk Group?
* 21:36 Murders in Aparan
* 27:01 Arthur Vanetsyan Resigns from Parliament
* 38:51 Gagik Jhangiryan in the Line of Fire
* 44:39 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 144 | Recorded: Monday, June 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220626.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 26, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 02:08 Who killed the OSCE Minsk Group?
* 21:36 Murders in Aparan
* 27:01 Arthur Vanetsyan Resigns from Parliament
* 38:51 Gagik Jhangiryan in the Line of Fire
* 44:39 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 144 | Recorded: Monday, June 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220626.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 26, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 02:08 Who killed the OSCE Minsk Group?
* 21:36 Murders in Aparan
* 27:01 Arthur Vanetsyan Resigns from Parliament
* 38:51 Gagik Jhangiryan in the Line of Fire
* 44:39 Rants
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian / TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 144 | Recorded: Monday, June 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220626.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10869681-osce-mg-aparan-murders-vanetsyan-resigns-jhangiryan-doesn-t-ep-144-jun-26-2022.mp3" length="35681341" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:49:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Opposition | Jhangiryan Scandal | Peace Talks, Shootings | Ep #143 - Jun 19, 2022
[EP143]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/143-did-opp-blink-sjc-scandal-more-peace-talks-more-border-shootings-ep-143-jun-19-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10828971-did-opp-blink-sjc-scandal-more-peace-talks-more-border-shootings-ep-143-jun-19-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>143</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Opposition | Jhangiryan Scandal | Peace Talks, Shootings | Ep #143 - Jun 19, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong - Week in Review - June 19, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:53 Did the Opposition Blink? What will happen to the Yerevan protests?
* 15:54 Scandal in the Supreme Judicial Council involving Gagik Jhangiryan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong - Week in Review - June 19, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:53 Did the Opposition Blink? What will happen to the Yerevan protests?
* 15:54 Scandal in the Supreme Judicial Council involving Gagik Jhangiryan (SJC)
* 34:31 More Artsakh “Peace” Talks, More Border Shootings
* 52:32 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan / Թեւան Պողոսյան / TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 143 | Recorded: Monday, June 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220619.html
#armenia #armenian #azerbaijan #karabakh #artsakh #yerevan #Nikol #pashinyan #zartnirlao #podcast #news #armenianpodcast #news</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong - Week in Review - June 19, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:53 Did the Opposition Blink? What will happen to the Yerevan protests?
* 15:54 Scandal in the Supreme Judicial Council involving Gagik Jhangiryan (SJC)
* 34:31 More Artsakh “Peace” Talks, More Border Shootings
* 52:32 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan / Թեւան Պողոսյան / TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 143 | Recorded: Monday, June 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220619.html
#armenia #armenian #azerbaijan #karabakh #artsakh #yerevan #Nikol #pashinyan #zartnirlao #podcast #news #armenianpodcast #news</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong - Week in Review - June 19, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:53 Did the Opposition Blink? What will happen to the Yerevan protests?
* 15:54 Scandal in the Supreme Judicial Council involving Gagik Jhangiryan (SJC)
* 34:31 More Artsakh “Peace” Talks, More Border Shootings
* 52:32 Rants
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan / Թեւան Պողոսյան / TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 143 | Recorded: Monday, June 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220619.html
#armenia #armenian #azerbaijan #karabakh #artsakh #yerevan #Nikol #pashinyan #zartnirlao #podcast #news #armenianpodcast #news</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10828971-did-opp-blink-sjc-scandal-more-peace-talks-more-border-shootings-ep-143-jun-19-2022.mp3" length="41405020" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:57:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Opp Politics | Lavrov | War Dividends | Caucasus Barometer | Ep #142 - Jun 12, 2022
[EP142]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/142-opposition-activates-politics-revising-lavrov-war-dividends-caucasus-barometer-survey-ep-142-jun-12-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 03:19:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10789987-opposition-activates-politics-revising-lavrov-war-dividends-caucasus-barometer-survey-ep-142-jun-12-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>142</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Opp Politics | Lavrov | War Dividends | Caucasus Barometer | Ep #142 - Jun 12, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 12, 2022

Topics:
* The Opposition Activates Politics
* Russia Revises Lavrov's Parukh Response
* War Dividends
* Caucasus Barometer Survey Takeaways

Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@Hrant_M...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 12, 2022
Topics:
* The Opposition Activates Politics
* Russia Revises Lavrov's Parukh Response
* War Dividends
* Caucasus Barometer Survey Takeaways
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian - TW/@qubriq
Episode 142 | Recorded: Monday, June 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220612.html
#lavrov #armeniannews</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 12, 2022
Topics:
* The Opposition Activates Politics
* Russia Revises Lavrov's Parukh Response
* War Dividends
* Caucasus Barometer Survey Takeaways
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian - TW/@qubriq
Episode 142 | Recorded: Monday, June 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220612.html
#lavrov #armeniannews</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 12, 2022
Topics:
* The Opposition Activates Politics
* Russia Revises Lavrov's Parukh Response
* War Dividends
* Caucasus Barometer Survey Takeaways
Guest:
* Hrant Mikaelian - TW/@Hrant_M
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian - TW/@qubriq
Episode 142 | Recorded: Monday, June 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220612.html
#lavrov #armeniannews</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10789987-opposition-activates-politics-revising-lavrov-war-dividends-caucasus-barometer-survey-ep-142-jun-12-2022.mp3" length="44724080" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Yerevan Protests Grow | Artsakh Negotiations | New MPG Poll | Ep #141 - Jun 5, 2022
[EP141]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/141-yerevan-protests-grow-artsakh-negotiations-new-mpg-results-ep-141-jun-5-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 17:33:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10755487-yerevan-protests-grow-artsakh-negotiations-new-mpg-results-ep-141-jun-5-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>141</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Yerevan Protests Grow | Artsakh Negotiations | New MPG Poll | Ep #141 - Jun 5, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 5, 2022

Topics:

- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:52 Yerevan Protests Continue
- 24:30 State of Negotiations on Artsakh
- 42:27 MPG Gallup Poll Results
- 44:14 Rants

Guests:

Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 5, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:52 Yerevan Protests Continue
- 24:30 State of Negotiations on Artsakh
- 42:27 MPG Gallup Poll Results
- 44:14 Rants
Guests:
Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 141 | Recorded: Monday, June 6, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 5, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:52 Yerevan Protests Continue
- 24:30 State of Negotiations on Artsakh
- 42:27 MPG Gallup Poll Results
- 44:14 Rants
Guests:
Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 141 | Recorded: Monday, June 6, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - June 5, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:52 Yerevan Protests Continue
- 24:30 State of Negotiations on Artsakh
- 42:27 MPG Gallup Poll Results
- 44:14 Rants
Guests:
Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 141 | Recorded: Monday, June 6, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10755487-yerevan-protests-grow-artsakh-negotiations-new-mpg-results-ep-141-jun-5-2022.mp3" length="33108063" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:45:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Russia Geopolitics | Armenia Russia Rels | Israel &amp; Armenia | Ep #140 - May 29, 2022
[EP140]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/140-russia-geopolitics-armenia-russia-rels-israeli-and-armenia-ep-140-may-29-2022/</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 04:28:16 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10718077-russia-geopolitics-armenia-russia-rels-israeli-and-armenia-ep-140-may-29-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>140</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Russia Geopolitics | Armenia Russia Rels | Israel &amp; Armenia | Ep #140 - May 29, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 29, 2022

Topics:

- 00:00 Introduction

- 02:27 Russia’s Geopolitics: We’ll get an update on the war as well as trying to understand what Russia’s endgame is in Ukraine and how it may affect...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 29, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:27 Russia’s Geopolitics: We’ll get an update on the war as well as trying to understand what Russia’s endgame is in Ukraine and how it may affect our region.
- 23:10 Armenia-Russia Relations: Next, we try to understand the dynamics of Armenia-Russian relations as well as the outlook for the future.
- 42:38 Israeli Interests and Armenia: Lastly, taking advantage of our guest’s area of expertise, we look at Israeli-Armenian relations, the history of failures in this area and what is needed for Armenia to finally start to derive some benefits from working in this complex environment.
Guest:
Dr. Sergei Melkonian, who is an expert at the Russian International Affairs Council (RIAC), He has worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, and has served as assistant to President of Armenia, Armen Sarkissian, on Russia and Middle East politics. He is CEO and Chief Editor of the Analytical Portal «International Studies», and a co-founder of the “Armenian Project” NGO.
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 140 | Recorded: Monday, May 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220529.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 29, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:27 Russia’s Geopolitics: We’ll get an update on the war as well as trying to understand what Russia’s endgame is in Ukraine and how it may affect our region.
- 23:10 Armenia-Russia Relations: Next, we try to understand the dynamics of Armenia-Russian relations as well as the outlook for the future.
- 42:38 Israeli Interests and Armenia: Lastly, taking advantage of our guest’s area of expertise, we look at Israeli-Armenian relations, the history of failures in this area and what is needed for Armenia to finally start to derive some benefits from working in this complex environment.
Guest:
Dr. Sergei Melkonian, who is an expert at the Russian International Affairs Council (RIAC), He has worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, and has served as assistant to President of Armenia, Armen Sarkissian, on Russia and Middle East politics. He is CEO and Chief Editor of the Analytical Portal «International Studies», and a co-founder of the “Armenian Project” NGO.
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 140 | Recorded: Monday, May 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220529.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 29, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:27 Russia’s Geopolitics: We’ll get an update on the war as well as trying to understand what Russia’s endgame is in Ukraine and how it may affect our region.
- 23:10 Armenia-Russia Relations: Next, we try to understand the dynamics of Armenia-Russian relations as well as the outlook for the future.
- 42:38 Israeli Interests and Armenia: Lastly, taking advantage of our guest’s area of expertise, we look at Israeli-Armenian relations, the history of failures in this area and what is needed for Armenia to finally start to derive some benefits from working in this complex environment.
Guest:
Dr. Sergei Melkonian, who is an expert at the Russian International Affairs Council (RIAC), He has worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, and has served as assistant to President of Armenia, Armen Sarkissian, on Russia and Middle East politics. He is CEO and Chief Editor of the Analytical Portal «International Studies», and a co-founder of the “Armenian Project” NGO.
Host:
Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 140 | Recorded: Monday, May 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220529.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10718077-russia-geopolitics-armenia-russia-rels-israeli-and-armenia-ep-140-may-29-2022.mp3" length="45039337" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Negotiations | Opp Protests | Iran-Armenia Rels | CSTO Meet | Ep #139 - May 22, 2022
[EP139]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/139-negotiations-continue-opposition-protests-continue-iran-armenia-relations-osce-leaders-meet-ep-139-may-22-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2022 07:14:38 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10671805-negotiations-continue-opposition-protests-continue-iran-armenia-relations-osce-leaders-meet-ep-139-may-22-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>139</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Negotiations | Opp Protests | Iran-Armenia Rels | CSTO Meet | Ep #139 - May 22, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 22, 2022

Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:05 “Agenda of Peace” Negotiations Continue
- 34:49 Iran-Armenia Relations
- 44:00 CSTO Leaders Meeting in Moscow
- 49:44 State of the Opposition...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 22, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:05 “Agenda of Peace” Negotiations Continue
- 34:49 Iran-Armenia Relations
- 44:00 CSTO Leaders Meeting in Moscow
- 49:44 State of the Opposition Protests
- 59:51 Hovik's Rant
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 139 | Recorded: Monday, May 23, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220522.html #zartnirlao</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 22, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:05 “Agenda of Peace” Negotiations Continue
- 34:49 Iran-Armenia Relations
- 44:00 CSTO Leaders Meeting in Moscow
- 49:44 State of the Opposition Protests
- 59:51 Hovik's Rant
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 139 | Recorded: Monday, May 23, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220522.html #zartnirlao</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 22, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 01:05 “Agenda of Peace” Negotiations Continue
- 34:49 Iran-Armenia Relations
- 44:00 CSTO Leaders Meeting in Moscow
- 49:44 State of the Opposition Protests
- 59:51 Hovik's Rant
Guests:
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan / TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 139 | Recorded: Monday, May 23, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220522.html #zartnirlao</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10671805-negotiations-continue-opposition-protests-continue-iran-armenia-relations-osce-leaders-meet-ep-139-may-22-2022.mp3" length="45211537" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - Hratch Tchilingirian and Ayda Erbal | Ep #138 - May 21, 2022
[EP138]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/138-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-with-hratch-tchilingirian-and-ayda-erbal-ep-138-may-21-2022/</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 14:21:57 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10658647-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-with-hratch-tchilingirian-and-ayda-erbal-ep-138-may-21-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>138</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - Hratch Tchilingirian and Ayda Erbal | Ep #138 - May 21, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Armenian Diaspora Survey - May 21, 2022

Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Sponsor and Admin teams
* Survey Details
* Why Diaspora Armenian should take the Survey


Guests:
* Dr. Hratch Tchilingirian, a sociologist, is...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - May 21, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Sponsor and Admin teams
* Survey Details
* Why Diaspora Armenian should take the Survey
Guests:
* Dr. Hratch Tchilingirian, a sociologist, is the Director of the Armenian Diaspora Survey project. He is Associate of the Faculty of Oriental Studies at the University of Oxford in the UK. 
* Ayda Erbal is an adjunct instructor of political science at New York University, She is the Survey Manager in the New York/New Jersey region and leading the social media campaign for the survey. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Link to survey: https://www.armeniandiasporasurvey.com/
Episode 138 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 20, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220521.html</itunes:summary><description>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - May 21, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Sponsor and Admin teams
* Survey Details
* Why Diaspora Armenian should take the Survey
Guests:
* Dr. Hratch Tchilingirian, a sociologist, is the Director of the Armenian Diaspora Survey project. He is Associate of the Faculty of Oriental Studies at the University of Oxford in the UK. 
* Ayda Erbal is an adjunct instructor of political science at New York University, She is the Survey Manager in the New York/New Jersey region and leading the social media campaign for the survey. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Link to survey: https://www.armeniandiasporasurvey.com/
Episode 138 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 20, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220521.html</description><googleplay:description>The Armenian Diaspora Survey - May 21, 2022
Topics:
* What is the ArmenianDiasporaSurvey.com?
* Sponsor and Admin teams
* Survey Details
* Why Diaspora Armenian should take the Survey
Guests:
* Dr. Hratch Tchilingirian, a sociologist, is the Director of the Armenian Diaspora Survey project. He is Associate of the Faculty of Oriental Studies at the University of Oxford in the UK. 
* Ayda Erbal is an adjunct instructor of political science at New York University, She is the Survey Manager in the New York/New Jersey region and leading the social media campaign for the survey. 
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Link to survey: https://www.armeniandiasporasurvey.com/
Episode 138 | Recorded on Wednesday, May 20, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220521.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10658647-the-armenian-diaspora-survey-with-hratch-tchilingirian-and-ayda-erbal-ep-138-may-21-2022.mp3" length="36668522" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia News: Yerevan Protests | Armenia Responds | Lebanon Elections 2022 | Ep #137 - May 15, 2022
[EP137]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/137-yerevan-protests-armenia-responds-to-azerbaijan-lebanon-elections-2022-ep-137-may-15-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2022 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10640112-yerevan-protests-armenia-responds-to-azerbaijan-lebanon-elections-2022-ep-137-may-15-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>137</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia News: Yerevan Protests | Armenia Responds | Lebanon Elections 2022 | Ep #137 - May 15, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 15, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:34 Continuing Opposition Protests in Yerevan
* 18:19 5 + 6: Armenia’s “Response” to Azerbaijan
* 41:28 Lebanon Elections 2022

Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 15, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:34 Continuing Opposition Protests in Yerevan
* 18:19 5 + 6: Armenia’s “Response” to Azerbaijan
* 41:28 Lebanon Elections 2022
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Arthur G. Martirosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Katia Peltekian / TW/@KatiaPeltekian
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 137 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 16, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220515.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 15, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:34 Continuing Opposition Protests in Yerevan
* 18:19 5 + 6: Armenia’s “Response” to Azerbaijan
* 41:28 Lebanon Elections 2022
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Arthur G. Martirosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Katia Peltekian / TW/@KatiaPeltekian
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 137 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 16, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220515.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 15, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:34 Continuing Opposition Protests in Yerevan
* 18:19 5 + 6: Armenia’s “Response” to Azerbaijan
* 41:28 Lebanon Elections 2022
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Arthur G. Martirosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Katia Peltekian / TW/@KatiaPeltekian
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 137 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 16, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220515.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10640112-yerevan-protests-armenia-responds-to-azerbaijan-lebanon-elections-2022-ep-137-may-15-2022.mp3" length="48078169" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:06:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 with Aram Hamparian | Ep #136 - May 13, 2022
[EP136]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/136-anca-advocacy-agenda-2022-with-aram-hamparian-ep-136-may-13-2022/</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2022 04:31:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10611416-anca-advocacy-agenda-2022-with-aram-hamparian-ep-136-may-13-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>136</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 with Aram Hamparian | Ep #136 - May 13, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 - MaY 13, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN

Topics:
* The US/Turkey F-35/F-16 Fallout
* US Aid to Armenia and Artsakh
* The Armenian Genocide Education Bill
* Dr. Oz is Mehmet Oz
* The US Election Cycles...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 - MaY 13, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The US/Turkey F-35/F-16 Fallout
* US Aid to Armenia and Artsakh
* The Armenian Genocide Education Bill
* Dr. Oz is Mehmet Oz
* The US Election Cycles of 2022 and 2024
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 136 | Recorded on Thursday, May 12, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220513.html</itunes:summary><description>ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 - MaY 13, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The US/Turkey F-35/F-16 Fallout
* US Aid to Armenia and Artsakh
* The Armenian Genocide Education Bill
* Dr. Oz is Mehmet Oz
* The US Election Cycles of 2022 and 2024
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 136 | Recorded on Thursday, May 12, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220513.html</description><googleplay:description>ANCA Advocacy Agenda 2022 - MaY 13, 2022
A Conversation with ARAM SUREN HAMPARIAN
Topics:
* The US/Turkey F-35/F-16 Fallout
* US Aid to Armenia and Artsakh
* The Armenian Genocide Education Bill
* Dr. Oz is Mehmet Oz
* The US Election Cycles of 2022 and 2024
Guest:
* Aram Suren Hamparian is the Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 136 | Recorded on Thursday, May 12, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220513.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10611416-anca-advocacy-agenda-2022-with-aram-hamparian-ep-136-may-13-2022.mp3" length="44206452" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:01:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Protests Growing | FM Mirzoyan in DC | Normalization ROUnd 3 | Ep #135 - May 8, 2022
[EP135]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/135-mass-protests-growing-fm-mirzoyan-in-dc-normalization-round-3-ep-135-may-8-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2022 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10595433-mass-protests-growing-fm-mirzoyan-in-dc-normalization-round-3-ep-135-may-8-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>135</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Protests Growing | FM Mirzoyan in DC | Normalization ROUnd 3 | Ep #135 - May 8, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 8, 2022

Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 00:49 Mass Protests Growing in Yerevan
- 24:31 FM Mirzoyan in Washington DC
- 38:38 Normalization Round 3
- 52:25 Rants

Guest:
- Benyamin Poghosyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 8, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 00:49 Mass Protests Growing in Yerevan
- 24:31 FM Mirzoyan in Washington DC
- 38:38 Normalization Round 3
- 52:25 Rants
Guest:
- Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 135 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220508.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 8, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 00:49 Mass Protests Growing in Yerevan
- 24:31 FM Mirzoyan in Washington DC
- 38:38 Normalization Round 3
- 52:25 Rants
Guest:
- Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 135 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220508.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 8, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Introduction
- 00:49 Mass Protests Growing in Yerevan
- 24:31 FM Mirzoyan in Washington DC
- 38:38 Normalization Round 3
- 52:25 Rants
Guest:
- Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 135 | Recorded: Tuesday, May 10, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220508.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10595433-mass-protests-growing-fm-mirzoyan-in-dc-normalization-round-3-ep-135-may-8-2022.mp3" length="39994991" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: "Peace Agenda" | Accident | Civil Disobedience | Insult Law | Ep #134 - May 1, 2022
[EP134]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/134-peace-agenda-motorcade-accident-civil-disobedience-criminalization-of-insults-upheld-ep-134-may-1-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10548790-peace-agenda-motorcade-accident-civil-disobedience-criminalization-of-insults-upheld-ep-134-may-1-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>134</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: "Peace Agenda" | Accident | Civil Disobedience | Insult Law | Ep #134 - May 1, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 1, 2022

Topics:
* "Peace Agenda" in Motion
* It's not the Crime, It's the Cover Up
* Opposition Initiates Civil Disobedience
* What a Nice PM Armenia Has! 🤥


Guest:
* Tevan Poghosyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 1, 2022
Topics:
* "Peace Agenda" in Motion
* It's not the Crime, It's the Cover Up
* Opposition Initiates Civil Disobedience
* What a Nice PM Armenia Has! 🤥
Guest:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 134 | Recorded: Monday, May 2, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220501.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 1, 2022
Topics:
* "Peace Agenda" in Motion
* It's not the Crime, It's the Cover Up
* Opposition Initiates Civil Disobedience
* What a Nice PM Armenia Has! 🤥
Guest:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 134 | Recorded: Monday, May 2, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220501.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - May 1, 2022
Topics:
* "Peace Agenda" in Motion
* It's not the Crime, It's the Cover Up
* Opposition Initiates Civil Disobedience
* What a Nice PM Armenia Has! 🤥
Guest:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 134 | Recorded: Monday, May 2, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220501.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10548790-peace-agenda-motorcade-accident-civil-disobedience-criminalization-of-insults-upheld-ep-134-may-1-2022.mp3" length="51943907" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:12:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: April 24 Never Forget | Brussels Meet | Pashinyan in Moscow | Ep #133 - Apr 24, 2022
[EP133]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/133-april-24-armenian-genocide-day-aliyev-and-pashinyan-in-brussels-pashinyan-in-moscow-ep-133-apr-24-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 03:26:47 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10505914-april-24-armenian-genocide-day-aliyev-and-pashinyan-in-brussels-pashinyan-in-moscow-ep-133-apr-24-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>133</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: April 24 Never Forget | Brussels Meet | Pashinyan in Moscow | Ep #133 - Apr 24, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 24, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00:00 Intro
* 00:00:53 April 24, Never Forget!
* 00:15:54 Aliyev and Pashinyan in Brussels
* 00:41:01 Pashinyan in Moscow
* 01:01:36 Rants

Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 24, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Intro
* 00:00:53 April 24, Never Forget!
* 00:15:54 Aliyev and Pashinyan in Brussels
* 00:41:01 Pashinyan in Moscow
* 01:01:36 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 133 | Recorded: Monday, April 25, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220424.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 24, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Intro
* 00:00:53 April 24, Never Forget!
* 00:15:54 Aliyev and Pashinyan in Brussels
* 00:41:01 Pashinyan in Moscow
* 01:01:36 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 133 | Recorded: Monday, April 25, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220424.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 24, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Intro
* 00:00:53 April 24, Never Forget!
* 00:15:54 Aliyev and Pashinyan in Brussels
* 00:41:01 Pashinyan in Moscow
* 01:01:36 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 133 | Recorded: Monday, April 25, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220424.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10505914-april-24-armenian-genocide-day-aliyev-and-pashinyan-in-brussels-pashinyan-in-moscow-ep-133-apr-24-2022.mp3" length="49571567" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:08:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Opposition | Brussels | Alison | Economy | Poll | Artsakh | Ep #132 - Apr 10, 2022
[EP132]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/132-opposition-brussels-alison-update-war-economy-new-poll-artsakh-ep-132-apr-10-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:50:44 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10426796-opposition-brussels-alison-update-war-economy-new-poll-artsakh-ep-132-apr-10-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>132</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Opposition | Brussels | Alison | Economy | Poll | Artsakh | Ep #132 - Apr 10, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 10, 2022

Topics:

- 00:00:00 Introduction

- 00:02:25 Opposition Protests in Yerevan: Thousands showed up to the opposition protest on Tuesday, outlining the red lines for Pashinyan's...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 10, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:02:25 Opposition Protests in Yerevan: Thousands showed up to the opposition protest on Tuesday, outlining the red lines for Pashinyan's dealings with Aliyev, ahead of the meeting in Brussels. Opposition says this is only the beginning, but have yet to indicate what their next steps will be.
- 00:12:35 Buying Bread from a Man in Brussels: Pashinyan went to Brussels this week to meet with Charles Michel and Ilham Aliyev. Did the Armenian PM firmly set his foot down and demand Azerbaijan withdraw from Karaglukh? Will our POWs come back soon? Or did Pashinyan just eat his Azeri vegemite sandwich and come back home?
- 00:34:45 Working for the man: The last time one of our guests Alison was on the show, she was hoping to help advise the Armenian government. We'll hear about her experiences since we last spoke, and what kind of room Armenia has to maneuver in this complicated geopolitical situation.
- 00:48:02 War and the Armenian Economic Outlook: With our analyst, we'll look at some economic problems stemming from the larger war in the region.
- 00:59:09 New MPG polls on Ukraine, Artsakh: The results of the newest MPG poll are out, with questions on Armenian sentiments about the war in Ukraine and other geopolitical issues. Are Armenians truly keen on opening the border with Turkey, with or without Turkish preconditions. Stay tuned to hear more.
- 01:24:58 Alison in Artsakh: And lastly today, we'll talk about the situation in Artsakh with Alison, who just returned from a weekend trip. She will share with us her impressions of her first time back since the war.
Guests:
- Alison Tahmizian Meuse
- Hrant Mikaelian
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 132 | Recorded: Monday, April 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220410.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 10, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:02:25 Opposition Protests in Yerevan: Thousands showed up to the opposition protest on Tuesday, outlining the red lines for Pashinyan's dealings with Aliyev, ahead of the meeting in Brussels. Opposition says this is only the beginning, but have yet to indicate what their next steps will be.
- 00:12:35 Buying Bread from a Man in Brussels: Pashinyan went to Brussels this week to meet with Charles Michel and Ilham Aliyev. Did the Armenian PM firmly set his foot down and demand Azerbaijan withdraw from Karaglukh? Will our POWs come back soon? Or did Pashinyan just eat his Azeri vegemite sandwich and come back home?
- 00:34:45 Working for the man: The last time one of our guests Alison was on the show, she was hoping to help advise the Armenian government. We'll hear about her experiences since we last spoke, and what kind of room Armenia has to maneuver in this complicated geopolitical situation.
- 00:48:02 War and the Armenian Economic Outlook: With our analyst, we'll look at some economic problems stemming from the larger war in the region.
- 00:59:09 New MPG polls on Ukraine, Artsakh: The results of the newest MPG poll are out, with questions on Armenian sentiments about the war in Ukraine and other geopolitical issues. Are Armenians truly keen on opening the border with Turkey, with or without Turkish preconditions. Stay tuned to hear more.
- 01:24:58 Alison in Artsakh: And lastly today, we'll talk about the situation in Artsakh with Alison, who just returned from a weekend trip. She will share with us her impressions of her first time back since the war.
Guests:
- Alison Tahmizian Meuse
- Hrant Mikaelian
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 132 | Recorded: Monday, April 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220410.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 10, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:02:25 Opposition Protests in Yerevan: Thousands showed up to the opposition protest on Tuesday, outlining the red lines for Pashinyan's dealings with Aliyev, ahead of the meeting in Brussels. Opposition says this is only the beginning, but have yet to indicate what their next steps will be.
- 00:12:35 Buying Bread from a Man in Brussels: Pashinyan went to Brussels this week to meet with Charles Michel and Ilham Aliyev. Did the Armenian PM firmly set his foot down and demand Azerbaijan withdraw from Karaglukh? Will our POWs come back soon? Or did Pashinyan just eat his Azeri vegemite sandwich and come back home?
- 00:34:45 Working for the man: The last time one of our guests Alison was on the show, she was hoping to help advise the Armenian government. We'll hear about her experiences since we last spoke, and what kind of room Armenia has to maneuver in this complicated geopolitical situation.
- 00:48:02 War and the Armenian Economic Outlook: With our analyst, we'll look at some economic problems stemming from the larger war in the region.
- 00:59:09 New MPG polls on Ukraine, Artsakh: The results of the newest MPG poll are out, with questions on Armenian sentiments about the war in Ukraine and other geopolitical issues. Are Armenians truly keen on opening the border with Turkey, with or without Turkish preconditions. Stay tuned to hear more.
- 01:24:58 Alison in Artsakh: And lastly today, we'll talk about the situation in Artsakh with Alison, who just returned from a weekend trip. She will share with us her impressions of her first time back since the war.
Guests:
- Alison Tahmizian Meuse
- Hrant Mikaelian
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 132 | Recorded: Monday, April 11, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220410.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10426796-opposition-brussels-alison-update-war-economy-new-poll-artsakh-ep-132-apr-10-2022.mp3" length="68213525" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:34:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Ukraine Crisis Update | Parukh - Brussels - Moscow | Ep #131 - Apr 3, 2022
[EP131]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/131-ukraine-crisis-update-parukh-brussels-moscow-ep-131-apr-3-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2022 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10379757-ukraine-crisis-update-parukh-brussels-moscow-ep-131-apr-3-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>131</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Ukraine Crisis Update | Parukh - Brussels - Moscow | Ep #131 - Apr 3, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 3, 2022

Topics:
  - 00:00 Intro
  - 01:12 Ukraine Crisis Update
  - 37:16 Parukh - Brussels - Moscow
  - 58:43 Rants

Guest:
- Pietro Shakarian

Host:
  - Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 3, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:12 Ukraine Crisis Update
- 37:16 Parukh - Brussels - Moscow
- 58:43 Rants
Guest:
- Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 131 | Recorded: Sunday, April 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220403.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 3, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:12 Ukraine Crisis Update
- 37:16 Parukh - Brussels - Moscow
- 58:43 Rants
Guest:
- Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 131 | Recorded: Sunday, April 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220403.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - April 3, 2022
Topics:
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:12 Ukraine Crisis Update
- 37:16 Parukh - Brussels - Moscow
- 58:43 Rants
Guest:
- Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 131 | Recorded: Sunday, April 4, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220403.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10379757-ukraine-crisis-update-parukh-brussels-moscow-ep-131-apr-3-2022.mp3" length="45244633" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: Askeran Incursion | Artsakh Still Without Gas | Pax Azeriana | Ep. 130 - Mar 27, 2022
[EP130]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/130-azerbaijan-incursion-into-askeran-artsakh-still-without-gas-pax-azeriana-and-armenia-response-ep-130-mar-27-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:04:40 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10334664-azerbaijan-incursion-into-askeran-artsakh-still-without-gas-pax-azeriana-and-armenia-response-ep-130-mar-27-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>130</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: Askeran Incursion | Artsakh Still Without Gas | Pax Azeriana | Ep. 130 - Mar 27, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 03/27/2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 27, 2022
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Azerbaijan Incursions into Askeran Region
* Artsakh Still Without Natural Gas
* Pax Azeriana
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 130 | Recorded: Monday, March 28, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 27, 2022
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Azerbaijan Incursions into Askeran Region
* Artsakh Still Without Natural Gas
* Pax Azeriana
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 130 | Recorded: Monday, March 28, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 27, 2022
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Azerbaijan Incursions into Askeran Region
* Artsakh Still Without Natural Gas
* Pax Azeriana
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 130 | Recorded: Monday, March 28, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="azerbaijan-incursion-into-askeran-region">Azerbaijan Incursion into Askeran Region</h2>
<p>As we covered last week, Artsakh is still without gas, despite it being restored for less than 3 days last weekend, only to be turned off again. But this week’s problems overshadowed last week’s problems.</p>
<p>First, let’s talk about the Azerbaijani armed forces again breaking the November 2020 Agreement, and advancing into Russian peacekeeper-controlled areas of Askeran, in the east of Artsakh. The enemy used Bayraktar drones and heavy artillery in their attacks which killed 3 and injured over 14 Armenians. Azerbaijani forces are reported to have taken the village of Parukh and also partly occupied a nearby strategic height called Karaglukh. Women and children have been evacuated from the nearby village of Khramort. We’ve previously reported that the village of Khramort has been the object of continuous harassment since a month ago, with Azerbaijan threatening the citizens of the village with megaphones (including blasting islamic prayers multiple times a day). There were even reports of actual fighting in that village where there was documented use of mortars by Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>So, amidst all this what was Armenia’s response? Some strong statements may have been made. In actuality, Armenian officials said that this is an area of Russian responsibility and asked the peacekeepers to demand rectification. Meanwhile, Andranik Kocharyan, head of the Defense and Security Committee in the Armenian parliament, said that “we should learn to live with the gas turned off”!</p>
<p>The US State Department has expressed <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1078964.html">“deep concern”</a> about Azerbaijani troop movements, and both <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31772115.html">Russia</a> and <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1078965.html">France</a> have demanded that Azerbaijan return to previous positions.</p>
<p>As of late Sunday, March 27, the Russian peacekeepers reported that Azerbaijani forces have withdrawn from Parukh village, but Armenian sources report that the strategic height Karaglukh is still partially occupied. Meanwhile, the Azerbaijani MOD <a href="https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20220327/minoborony-azerbaydzhana-zayavlyaet-chto-ne-otvodilo-voyska-iz-parukha-40243186.html">denied</a> that they had withdrawn, essentially accusing the Russians of lying, and also ruled out such a move in the future. They also accused Russia of violating the declaration on “Allied relations” signed by the presidents of both countries in February of this year.</p>
<p>Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1078981.html">applied to Putin</a> to increase the number of peacekeepers, in order to assure the safety of Artsakh citizens.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How did this incident originate? Does this appeal to Putin help?</li>
<li>Is Aliyev being opportunistic in light of the Ukraine crisis taking all of Russia’s attention, or is this a strategic move on their part?</li>
</ul>
<p>The Russian response was uncharacteristically blunt in its daily bulletin, <a href="https://mil.ru/russian_peacekeeping_forces/bulletins/more.htm?id=12414883@egNews">blaming</a> the Azerbaijani side for the initiation of aggression and appealing to Azerbaijan to withdraw troops to their starting positions.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>We’re used to seeing world powers express “serious concern” but, in your opinion, is Russia’s response different this time? And why?</li>
<li>What are the possible outcomes here?</li>
<li>Does Armenia have any leverage that it can pull? For example, could it message Turkey that such actions by Azerbaijan harm the Normalization process, and to help stop them?</li>
</ul>
<p>In light of these border skirmishes and deadly incursions by Azerbaijan, I wanted to add an issue which we didn’t get to in our show last week, about the border community of Nerkin Hand in Syunik which complained that Azerbaijani armed forces had moved over half a kilometer deeper into Armenia. Defense Minister Papikyan <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31759341.html">visited Syunik</a>, and dismissed the claims, and the ministry said this:</p>
<pre><code>* “...Azerbaijani servicemen had simply returned to the positions that they previously controlled, but recently had to leave temporarily due to harsh winter conditions.”
</code></pre>
<p><strong>This is all in Armenian territory!</strong></p>
<p>The other reason for Papikyan’s visit was the death of two servicemen in non-combat situations. One of them may have been “forced to commit suicide”.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the situation near Nerkin Hand, and what is the situation of our Armed forces in Syunik?</li>
<li>Should we expect any outcome from Papikyan’s visit to Syunik?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh-still-without-natural-gas">Artsakh Still Without Natural Gas</h2>
<p>Since March 8, Artsakh has been without Natural Gas. We talked about this last week, and the problem remains. Fortunately, after the previous week’s terrible snowstorm and freezing weather, the weather has warmed up a little bit, but in Artsakh the weather is a real factor due to the mountainous terrain.</p>
<p>On Tuesday, Artsakh, and also <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1078744.html">Freedom House</a> stated that there’s a real humanitarian crisis brewing there, as the situation and living conditions deteriorate. The EU expressed concern about the continuing disruption and made a meaningless statement calling on “the authorities in control” to resume gas service. I guess the EU doesn’t know who interrupted the gas to Artsakh’s population.</p>
<p>Russia called for the immediate resumption of the gas service, but the statement asked “Armenia and Azerbaijan to resolve the issue of the gas supply”.</p>
<p>So that’s where we stand today. This would have been our top issue today because it is stopping not only heating of peoples’ homes in current freezing temperatures, but also businesses, bakeries, the food supply, and hospitals. But the situation has been so aggravated with the Azeri attacks on Askeran, killing Armenians, etc. that this is our second topic!</p>
<p>Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan on Thursday claimed to have <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1078801.html">authorized Vitaly Balasanyan</a> to negotiate with Azerbaijan to restart the gas service. Vitaly Balasanyan’s team has rejected this claim, after which the statement on the Artsakh’s Unified Info Center site was altered to omit this issue.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why was Balasanyan’s name thrown in the fray, especially since it apparently was later corrected and removed?</li>
</ul>
<p>Azerbaijan has repeatedly said that gas deliveries to Stepanakert are within the purview of Azergas and that Stepanakert authorities should apply to Baku to get their gas fixed. It is obvious that they’re interested in asserting control over communications and energy going to Artsakh and we can expect such threats and extortion to affect electricity or even telecommunications. It seems that the only way Artsakh citizens can be free from such threats in the future is to reroute gas, electric and telecom wires to bypass areas controlled by Baku forces.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is that even feasible?</li>
<li>What are the logistics involved?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pax-azeriana">Pax Azeriana</h2>
<p>At this point it was a couple of weeks ago when we learned of the Azeri proposal for a <a href="https://www.azernews.az/news.php?news_id=190739">5-point</a>  “peace plan”. This past week FM Mirzoyan told the parliament that the Azeri peace plan was basically an acceptable starting point for Armenia, but it didn’t include all of Armenia’s needs.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the Azeri “peace plan” acceptable for Armenia, and what is missing from it?</li>
<li>Does Pashinyan’s government see any outcome that allows for Artsakh’s self-determination, or any status that does not leave it within Azerbaijan?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="topics-from-the-panelists">Topics from the Panelists</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Varuzhan:</strong> A critical moment in time for Armenia</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/130/thumbnail-130.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/130/thumbnail-130.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10334664-azerbaijan-incursion-into-askeran-artsakh-still-without-gas-pax-azeriana-and-armenia-response-ep-130-mar-27-2022.mp3" length="44753209" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian News: "Peace" Deal | Artsakh Gas | Ukraine Protests | Vardenis | Ep #129 - Mar 20, 2022
[EP129]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/129-azerbaijan-s-peace-deal-artsakh-gas-cut-off-ukraine-protest-in-yerevan-vardenis-mayoral-issue-resolved-ep-129-mar-20-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:51:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10294455-azerbaijan-s-peace-deal-artsakh-gas-cut-off-ukraine-protest-in-yerevan-vardenis-mayoral-issue-resolved-ep-129-mar-20-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>129</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian News: "Peace" Deal | Artsakh Gas | Ukraine Protests | Vardenis | Ep #129 - Mar 20, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 20, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:47 Azerbaijan's "Peace" Deal
* 13:34 Artsakh Without Natural Gas in Winter
* 28:07 Ukraine Protests in Yerevan
* 43:29 Vardenis Mayoral Issue...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 20, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:47 Azerbaijan's "Peace" Deal
* 13:34 Artsakh Without Natural Gas in Winter
* 28:07 Ukraine Protests in Yerevan
* 43:29 Vardenis Mayoral Issue Resolved
* 47:17 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan https://twitter.com/Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 129 | Recorded: Sunday, March 21, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220320.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 20, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:47 Azerbaijan's "Peace" Deal
* 13:34 Artsakh Without Natural Gas in Winter
* 28:07 Ukraine Protests in Yerevan
* 43:29 Vardenis Mayoral Issue Resolved
* 47:17 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan https://twitter.com/Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 129 | Recorded: Sunday, March 21, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220320.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong Week in Review - March 20, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:47 Azerbaijan's "Peace" Deal
* 13:34 Artsakh Without Natural Gas in Winter
* 28:07 Ukraine Protests in Yerevan
* 43:29 Vardenis Mayoral Issue Resolved
* 47:17 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan https://twitter.com/Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 129 | Recorded: Sunday, March 21, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220320.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10294455-azerbaijan-s-peace-deal-artsakh-gas-cut-off-ukraine-protest-in-yerevan-vardenis-mayoral-issue-resolved-ep-129-mar-20-2022.mp3" length="36966691" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:51:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh | Ukraine | FM Arabat Mirzoyan in Antalya | Ep #128 - Mar 13, 2022
[EP128]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/128-renewed-hostilities-in-artsakh-ukraine-fm-arabat-mirzoyan-in-antalya-ep-128-mar-13-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 02:18:33 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10245207-renewed-hostilities-in-artsakh-ukraine-fm-arabat-mirzoyan-in-antalya-ep-128-mar-13-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>128</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh | Ukraine | FM Arabat Mirzoyan in Antalya | Ep #128 - Mar 13, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 13, 2022

Topics:
* Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh
* Update on Ukraine
* FM "Arabat" Mirzoyan in Antalya

Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian

Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 13, 2022
Topics:
* Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh
* Update on Ukraine
* FM "Arabat" Mirzoyan in Antalya
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 128 | Recorded: Sunday, March 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220313.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 13, 2022
Topics:
* Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh
* Update on Ukraine
* FM "Arabat" Mirzoyan in Antalya
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 128 | Recorded: Sunday, March 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220313.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 13, 2022
Topics:
* Renewed Hostilities in Artsakh
* Update on Ukraine
* FM "Arabat" Mirzoyan in Antalya
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 128 | Recorded: Sunday, March 13, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220313.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10245207-renewed-hostilities-in-artsakh-ukraine-fm-arabat-mirzoyan-in-antalya-ep-128-mar-13-2022.mp3" length="29511373" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:40:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The State of Armenia’s Economy - A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan | Ep #127 - March 10, 2022
[EP127]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/127-the-state-of-armenia-s-economy-a-conversation-with-vache-gabrielyan-ep-127-march-10-2022/</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:49:23 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10227992-the-state-of-armenia-s-economy-a-conversation-with-vache-gabrielyan-ep-127-march-10-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>127</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The State of Armenia’s Economy - A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan | Ep #127 - March 10, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The State of Armenia’s Economy - March 10, 2022

A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan

Topics:

- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:01:25 Risk from the Ukraine War
- 00:37:18 Pandemic, War and Beyond Economy
- 01:01:47 Normalization with Turkey and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The State of Armenia’s Economy - March 10, 2022
A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:01:25 Risk from the Ukraine War
- 00:37:18 Pandemic, War and Beyond Economy
- 01:01:47 Normalization with Turkey and Corridor Economics
Guest:
Dr. Vache Gabrielyan who is the Dean of the Manoogian Simone College of Business and Economics at the American University of Armenia and specializes in public administration and economics. Since 2008, he has served as Vice-Governor of the Central Bank of Armenia, Minister of Finance, Minister-Chief of the Government Staff, Chief Advisor to the Prime Minister, as well as the Deputy Prime Minister of Armenia, and the Minister of International Economic Integration and Reforms.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 127 | Recorded on Thursday, March 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220310.html</itunes:summary><description>The State of Armenia’s Economy - March 10, 2022
A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:01:25 Risk from the Ukraine War
- 00:37:18 Pandemic, War and Beyond Economy
- 01:01:47 Normalization with Turkey and Corridor Economics
Guest:
Dr. Vache Gabrielyan who is the Dean of the Manoogian Simone College of Business and Economics at the American University of Armenia and specializes in public administration and economics. Since 2008, he has served as Vice-Governor of the Central Bank of Armenia, Minister of Finance, Minister-Chief of the Government Staff, Chief Advisor to the Prime Minister, as well as the Deputy Prime Minister of Armenia, and the Minister of International Economic Integration and Reforms.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 127 | Recorded on Thursday, March 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220310.html</description><googleplay:description>The State of Armenia’s Economy - March 10, 2022
A Conversation with Vache Gabrielyan
Topics:
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:01:25 Risk from the Ukraine War
- 00:37:18 Pandemic, War and Beyond Economy
- 01:01:47 Normalization with Turkey and Corridor Economics
Guest:
Dr. Vache Gabrielyan who is the Dean of the Manoogian Simone College of Business and Economics at the American University of Armenia and specializes in public administration and economics. Since 2008, he has served as Vice-Governor of the Central Bank of Armenia, Minister of Finance, Minister-Chief of the Government Staff, Chief Advisor to the Prime Minister, as well as the Deputy Prime Minister of Armenia, and the Minister of International Economic Integration and Reforms.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@hovikyerevan
Episode 127 | Recorded on Thursday, March 9, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220310.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10227992-the-state-of-armenia-s-economy-a-conversation-with-vache-gabrielyan-ep-127-march-10-2022.mp3" length="58263374" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:20:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ukraine | Dismissing Generals | 2nd Normalization Meeting | New President | Ep #126 - Mar 6, 2022
[EP126]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/126-ukraine-dismissing-generals-2nd-normalization-meeting-new-president-ep-126-mar-6-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 02:01:49 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10201986-ukraine-dismissing-generals-2nd-normalization-meeting-new-president-ep-126-mar-6-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>126</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ukraine | Dismissing Generals | 2nd Normalization Meeting | New President | Ep #126 - Mar 6, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 6, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:15 Ukraine War and Effects on Armenia
* 19:04 Armenia Shuffles Generals
* 25:15 Second Normalization Meeting
* 33:06 Armenian Parliament Elects New President

Guest:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:15 Ukraine War and Effects on Armenia
* 19:04 Armenia Shuffles Generals
* 25:15 Second Normalization Meeting
* 33:06 Armenian Parliament Elects New President
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 126 | Recorded: Sunday, March 6, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220306.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:15 Ukraine War and Effects on Armenia
* 19:04 Armenia Shuffles Generals
* 25:15 Second Normalization Meeting
* 33:06 Armenian Parliament Elects New President
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 126 | Recorded: Sunday, March 6, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220306.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:15 Ukraine War and Effects on Armenia
* 19:04 Armenia Shuffles Generals
* 25:15 Second Normalization Meeting
* 33:06 Armenian Parliament Elects New President
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 126 | Recorded: Sunday, March 6, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220306.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10201986-ukraine-dismissing-generals-2nd-normalization-meeting-new-president-ep-126-mar-6-2022.mp3" length="29588173" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ukraine | Donetsk Luhansk, Artsakh | Aliyev in Moscow | Euronest in Yerevan | Ep #125 - Feb 27, 2022
[EP125]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/125-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-artsakh-aliyev-in-moscow-euronest-in-yerevan-ep-125-feb-27-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 02:46:24 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10156783-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-artsakh-aliyev-in-moscow-euronest-in-yerevan-ep-125-feb-27-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>125</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ukraine | Donetsk Luhansk, Artsakh | Aliyev in Moscow | Euronest in Yerevan | Ep #125 - Feb 27, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 27, 2022

Topics:
* Developments in the Ukraine Crisis
* Donetsk, Luhansk. Artsakh?
* Aliyev in Moscow
* Euronest in Yerevan

Guest:
* Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 27, 2022
Topics:
* Developments in the Ukraine Crisis
* Donetsk, Luhansk. Artsakh?
* Aliyev in Moscow
* Euronest in Yerevan
Guest:
* Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 125 | Recorded: Sunday, February 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220227.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 27, 2022
Topics:
* Developments in the Ukraine Crisis
* Donetsk, Luhansk. Artsakh?
* Aliyev in Moscow
* Euronest in Yerevan
Guest:
* Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 125 | Recorded: Sunday, February 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220227.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 27, 2022
Topics:
* Developments in the Ukraine Crisis
* Donetsk, Luhansk. Artsakh?
* Aliyev in Moscow
* Euronest in Yerevan
Guest:
* Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Host:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 125 | Recorded: Sunday, February 27, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220227.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10156783-ukraine-donetsk-luhansk-artsakh-aliyev-in-moscow-euronest-in-yerevan-ep-125-feb-27-2022.mp3" length="42546065" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:59:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia’s Regional Challenges with Tatev Hayrapetyan | Ep #124 - Feb 26, 2022
[EP124]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/124-armenia-s-regional-challenges-a-conversation-with-tatev-hayrapetyan-february-26-2022/</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2022 04:13:11 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10146777-armenia-s-regional-challenges-a-conversation-with-tatev-hayrapetyan-february-26-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>124</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia’s Regional Challenges with Tatev Hayrapetyan | Ep #124 - Feb 26, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenia’s Regional Challenges - February 26, 2022
A Conversation with Tatev Hayrapetyan

Topics:
* Tatev’s Background and Entrance into Politics
* Armenia Going in the Wrong Direction?
* Aliyev and his Regime after the 44-Day War
* The Shushi...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenia’s Regional Challenges - February 26, 2022
A Conversation with Tatev Hayrapetyan
Topics:
* Tatev’s Background and Entrance into Politics
* Armenia Going in the Wrong Direction?
* Aliyev and his Regime after the 44-Day War
* The Shushi and Moscow Agreements
* Armenia’s Foreign Affairs Establishment
Guest:
* Tatev Hayrapetyan is an expert in Azerbaijani studies and holds a PhD in History. She was an MP at the 7th convocation of Armenia's National Assembly, a member of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Armenian Delegation at the PACE. She is mainly focused on domestic developments in Azerbaijan, particularly examining the impact of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict on internal politics.
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 124 | Recorded on Friday, February 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220226.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenia’s Regional Challenges - February 26, 2022
A Conversation with Tatev Hayrapetyan
Topics:
* Tatev’s Background and Entrance into Politics
* Armenia Going in the Wrong Direction?
* Aliyev and his Regime after the 44-Day War
* The Shushi and Moscow Agreements
* Armenia’s Foreign Affairs Establishment
Guest:
* Tatev Hayrapetyan is an expert in Azerbaijani studies and holds a PhD in History. She was an MP at the 7th convocation of Armenia's National Assembly, a member of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Armenian Delegation at the PACE. She is mainly focused on domestic developments in Azerbaijan, particularly examining the impact of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict on internal politics.
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 124 | Recorded on Friday, February 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220226.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenia’s Regional Challenges - February 26, 2022
A Conversation with Tatev Hayrapetyan
Topics:
* Tatev’s Background and Entrance into Politics
* Armenia Going in the Wrong Direction?
* Aliyev and his Regime after the 44-Day War
* The Shushi and Moscow Agreements
* Armenia’s Foreign Affairs Establishment
Guest:
* Tatev Hayrapetyan is an expert in Azerbaijani studies and holds a PhD in History. She was an MP at the 7th convocation of Armenia's National Assembly, a member of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Armenian Delegation at the PACE. She is mainly focused on domestic developments in Azerbaijan, particularly examining the impact of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict on internal politics.
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 124 | Recorded on Friday, February 25, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220226.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10146777-armenia-s-regional-challenges-a-conversation-with-tatev-hayrapetyan-february-26-2022.mp3" length="48811981" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:07:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022
[EP123]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/123-pietro-shakarian-roundup-on-the-ukraine-crisis-february-22-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10125651-roundup-on-the-ukraine-crisis-february-22-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>123</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022

Topics:
* Why did Putin Recognize Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts as Independent Republics?
* Is Putin Trying to Recreate the USSR?
* Is "The West" a Homogeneous Political Bloc?
* What...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022
Topics:
* Why did Putin Recognize Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts as Independent Republics?
* Is Putin Trying to Recreate the USSR?
* Is "The West" a Homogeneous Political Bloc?
* What are the Objectives of the US?
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Lecturer in History at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 123 | Recorded on Friday, February 22, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220222.html</itunes:summary><description>Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022
Topics:
* Why did Putin Recognize Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts as Independent Republics?
* Is Putin Trying to Recreate the USSR?
* Is "The West" a Homogeneous Political Bloc?
* What are the Objectives of the US?
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Lecturer in History at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 123 | Recorded on Friday, February 22, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220222.html</description><googleplay:description>Roundup on the Ukraine Crisis - February 22, 2022
Topics:
* Why did Putin Recognize Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts as Independent Republics?
* Is Putin Trying to Recreate the USSR?
* Is "The West" a Homogeneous Political Bloc?
* What are the Objectives of the US?
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Lecturer in History at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 123 | Recorded on Friday, February 22, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220222.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10125651-roundup-on-the-ukraine-crisis-february-22-2022.mp3" length="12297419" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:17:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>2021 "Shushi Declaration" - 2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» | Ep #122 - Feb 21, 2022
[EP122]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/122-2021-shushi-declaration-2021-ep-122-feb-21-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10113707-2021-shushi-declaration-2021-ep-122-feb-21-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>122</itunes:episode><itunes:title>2021 "Shushi Declaration" - 2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» | Ep #122 - Feb 21, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» - The 2021 “Shushi Declaration” by Azerbaijan and Turkey

A Conversation in Armenian with Mihran Hakobyan (in Armenian)

Topics:
- 2րդ Արցախեան պատերազմի հիմնական պատճառները
- ՀՀ Դիվանագիտական/Ռազմավարական...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» - The 2021 “Shushi Declaration” by Azerbaijan and Turkey
A Conversation in Armenian with Mihran Hakobyan (in Armenian)
Topics:
- 2րդ Արցախեան պատերազմի հիմնական պատճառները
- ՀՀ Դիվանագիտական/Ռազմավարական ձախողումները
- Շուշիի համաձայնագրի հիմնական բաղադրիչները և սպառնալիքներ
- Ռուսաստանի և Իրանի երկարաժամկետ շրջանային եւ աշխարհաքաղաքական նպատակները
- The Fundamental Drivers of the 2nd War in Artsakh
- The Armenian Government’s Diplomatic and Strategic Failures
- The Key Components and Threats of the Shushi Declaration
- The Long-term Regional and Geopolitical Goals of Russia and Iran
Guest:
- Միհրան Տարոնի Հակոբյան, հայ պատմաբան (պատմական գիտությունների թեկնածու), քաղաքական գործիչ, և 6-րդ գումարման Ազգային Ժոլովի պատգամավոր (անկուսակցական , «ՀՀԿ» խմբակցություն).
- Mihran Taroni Hakobyan is an Armenian historian and a PhD Candidate in Historical Sciences. He is a civic activist, and վաս member of the of the 6th convocation of the Armenian National Assembly (non-partisan, "RPA/HHK" faction).
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Voskanapat on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voskanapat/
Episode 122 | Recorded on November 3, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220221.html</itunes:summary><description>2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» - The 2021 “Shushi Declaration” by Azerbaijan and Turkey
A Conversation in Armenian with Mihran Hakobyan (in Armenian)
Topics:
- 2րդ Արցախեան պատերազմի հիմնական պատճառները
- ՀՀ Դիվանագիտական/Ռազմավարական ձախողումները
- Շուշիի համաձայնագրի հիմնական բաղադրիչները և սպառնալիքներ
- Ռուսաստանի և Իրանի երկարաժամկետ շրջանային եւ աշխարհաքաղաքական նպատակները
- The Fundamental Drivers of the 2nd War in Artsakh
- The Armenian Government’s Diplomatic and Strategic Failures
- The Key Components and Threats of the Shushi Declaration
- The Long-term Regional and Geopolitical Goals of Russia and Iran
Guest:
- Միհրան Տարոնի Հակոբյան, հայ պատմաբան (պատմական գիտությունների թեկնածու), քաղաքական գործիչ, և 6-րդ գումարման Ազգային Ժոլովի պատգամավոր (անկուսակցական , «ՀՀԿ» խմբակցություն).
- Mihran Taroni Hakobyan is an Armenian historian and a PhD Candidate in Historical Sciences. He is a civic activist, and վաս member of the of the 6th convocation of the Armenian National Assembly (non-partisan, "RPA/HHK" faction).
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Voskanapat on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voskanapat/
Episode 122 | Recorded on November 3, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220221.html</description><googleplay:description>2021-ի «Շուշիի Հռչակագիրը» - The 2021 “Shushi Declaration” by Azerbaijan and Turkey
A Conversation in Armenian with Mihran Hakobyan (in Armenian)
Topics:
- 2րդ Արցախեան պատերազմի հիմնական պատճառները
- ՀՀ Դիվանագիտական/Ռազմավարական ձախողումները
- Շուշիի համաձայնագրի հիմնական բաղադրիչները և սպառնալիքներ
- Ռուսաստանի և Իրանի երկարաժամկետ շրջանային եւ աշխարհաքաղաքական նպատակները
- The Fundamental Drivers of the 2nd War in Artsakh
- The Armenian Government’s Diplomatic and Strategic Failures
- The Key Components and Threats of the Shushi Declaration
- The Long-term Regional and Geopolitical Goals of Russia and Iran
Guest:
- Միհրան Տարոնի Հակոբյան, հայ պատմաբան (պատմական գիտությունների թեկնածու), քաղաքական գործիչ, և 6-րդ գումարման Ազգային Ժոլովի պատգամավոր (անկուսակցական , «ՀՀԿ» խմբակցություն).
- Mihran Taroni Hakobyan is an Armenian historian and a PhD Candidate in Historical Sciences. He is a civic activist, and վաս member of the of the 6th convocation of the Armenian National Assembly (non-partisan, "RPA/HHK" faction).
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Voskanapat on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voskanapat/
Episode 122 | Recorded on November 3, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220221.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10113707-2021-shushi-declaration-2021-ep-122-feb-21-2022.mp3" length="41011552" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:56:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ukraine | Heritage Destruction | NKR Law | Arresting Arayik | IRI results | Ep #121 - Feb 20, 2022
[EP121]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/121-ukraine-azeri-destruction-of-armenian-heritage-artsakh-law-arresting-arayik-iri-results-analyzed-ep-121-feb-20-2022/</link><pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:49:51 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10112781-ukraine-azeri-destruction-of-armenian-heritage-artsakh-law-arresting-arayik-iri-results-analyzed-ep-121-feb-20-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>121</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ukraine | Heritage Destruction | NKR Law | Arresting Arayik | IRI results | Ep #121 - Feb 20, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 20, 2022

Topics:
* Ukraine: Biden's Tunnel of Crisis
* Azeri Commission to Destroy Armenian Heritage
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* Azerbaijan Wants to Arrest Artsakh President
* IRI Poll Results...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 20, 2022
Topics:
* Ukraine: Biden's Tunnel of Crisis
* Azeri Commission to Destroy Armenian Heritage
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* Azerbaijan Wants to Arrest Artsakh President
* IRI Poll Results Revisited
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 121 | Recorded: Sunday, February 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220220.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 20, 2022
Topics:
* Ukraine: Biden's Tunnel of Crisis
* Azeri Commission to Destroy Armenian Heritage
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* Azerbaijan Wants to Arrest Artsakh President
* IRI Poll Results Revisited
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 121 | Recorded: Sunday, February 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220220.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 20, 2022
Topics:
* Ukraine: Biden's Tunnel of Crisis
* Azeri Commission to Destroy Armenian Heritage
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* Azerbaijan Wants to Arrest Artsakh President
* IRI Poll Results Revisited
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 121 | Recorded: Sunday, February 20, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220220.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10112781-ukraine-azeri-destruction-of-armenian-heritage-artsakh-law-arresting-arayik-iri-results-analyzed-ep-121-feb-20-2022.mp3" length="25212833" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:34:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan | Ep #120 - Feb 18, 2022
[EP120]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/120-political-topics-with-edmon-marukyan-ep-120-feb-18-2022/</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10103162-political-topics-with-edmon-marukyan-ep-120-feb-18-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>120</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan | Ep #120 - Feb 18, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022


Topics:
* Constitutional Change Commission
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* State of Bright Armenia Party
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization

Guest:
* Edmon Marukyan, who is a...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022
Topics:
* Constitutional Change Commission
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* State of Bright Armenia Party
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization
Guest:
* Edmon Marukyan, who is a lawyer by profession and the leader of the Bright Armenia party (Լուսավոր Հայաստան). He was a member of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations of the National Assembly of the Republic of Armenia from 2012 till 2021. He’s also a member of the newly formed commission to amend the constitution.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 120 | Recorded on Friday, February 18, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220218.html</itunes:summary><description>Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022
Topics:
* Constitutional Change Commission
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* State of Bright Armenia Party
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization
Guest:
* Edmon Marukyan, who is a lawyer by profession and the leader of the Bright Armenia party (Լուսավոր Հայաստան). He was a member of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations of the National Assembly of the Republic of Armenia from 2012 till 2021. He’s also a member of the newly formed commission to amend the constitution.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 120 | Recorded on Friday, February 18, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220218.html</description><googleplay:description>Political Topics with Edmon Marukyan - February 18, 2022
Topics:
* Constitutional Change Commission
* Artsakh Law on Occupied Territories
* State of Bright Armenia Party
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization
Guest:
* Edmon Marukyan, who is a lawyer by profession and the leader of the Bright Armenia party (Լուսավոր Հայաստան). He was a member of the fifth, sixth and seventh convocations of the National Assembly of the Republic of Armenia from 2012 till 2021. He’s also a member of the newly formed commission to amend the constitution.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 120 | Recorded on Friday, February 18, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220218.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10103162-political-topics-with-edmon-marukyan-ep-120-feb-18-2022.mp3" length="23825595" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:33:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>POWs | War Commission | Degrading Democracy | Lukashenko | MPG poll | Ep #119 - Feb 13, 2022
[EP119]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/119-cost-of-pows-war-commission-degrading-norms-of-democracy-lukashenko-latest-mpg-ep-119-feb-13-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2022 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10077868-cost-of-pows-war-commission-degrading-norms-of-democracy-lukashenko-latest-mpg-ep-119-feb-13-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>119</itunes:episode><itunes:title>POWs | War Commission | Degrading Democracy | Lukashenko | MPG poll | Ep #119 - Feb 13, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
* 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
* 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
* 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
* 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of Democracy in Armenia
* 00:46:42 Who Needs Armenia?
* 01:06:32 Latest MPG Poll Results in Yerevan
* 01:18:51 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 119 | Recorded: Sunday, February 14, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220213.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
* 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
* 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of Democracy in Armenia
* 00:46:42 Who Needs Armenia?
* 01:06:32 Latest MPG Poll Results in Yerevan
* 01:18:51 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 119 | Recorded: Sunday, February 14, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220213.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 13, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00:00 Introduction
* 00:02:43 8 More POWs Released, But What At What Cost?
* 00:20:40 Parliamentary Commission on the 44-Day War Established
* 00:33:42 The Degrading Norms of Democracy in Armenia
* 00:46:42 Who Needs Armenia?
* 01:06:32 Latest MPG Poll Results in Yerevan
* 01:18:51 Rants
Guest:
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 119 | Recorded: Sunday, February 14, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220213.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10077868-cost-of-pows-war-commission-degrading-norms-of-democracy-lukashenko-latest-mpg-ep-119-feb-13-2022.mp3" length="59393461" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:22:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ukraine Crisis | Vahagn Khachatryan for President | New IRI Poll Results | Ep #118 - Feb 6, 2022
[EP118]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/118-pietro-shakarian-continuing-ukraine-crisis-vahagn-khachatryan-for-pres-new-iri-poll-results/</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10041795-continuing-ukraine-crisis-vahagn-khachatryan-for-pres-new-iri-poll-results-ep-118-feb-6-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ukraine Crisis | Vahagn Khachatryan for President | New IRI Poll Results | Ep #118 - Feb 6, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 6, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:10 The Continuing Ukraine Crisis
    * Putin in Beijing, Erdogan in Kyiv, Pashinyan at Olympic Diplomacy?
* 23:44 Civil Contract Nominates Vahagn Khachatryan for...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:10 The Continuing Ukraine Crisis
* Putin in Beijing, Erdogan in Kyiv, Pashinyan at Olympic Diplomacy?
* 23:44 Civil Contract Nominates Vahagn Khachatryan for President
* 41:21 New IRI Poll Results
* 58:57 Rants
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 118 | Recorded: Sunday, February 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220206.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:10 The Continuing Ukraine Crisis
* Putin in Beijing, Erdogan in Kyiv, Pashinyan at Olympic Diplomacy?
* 23:44 Civil Contract Nominates Vahagn Khachatryan for President
* 41:21 New IRI Poll Results
* 58:57 Rants
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 118 | Recorded: Sunday, February 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220206.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - February 6, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:10 The Continuing Ukraine Crisis
* Putin in Beijing, Erdogan in Kyiv, Pashinyan at Olympic Diplomacy?
* 23:44 Civil Contract Nominates Vahagn Khachatryan for President
* 41:21 New IRI Poll Results
* 58:57 Rants
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 118 | Recorded: Sunday, February 8, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220206.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10041795-continuing-ukraine-crisis-vahagn-khachatryan-for-pres-new-iri-poll-results-ep-118-feb-6-2022.mp3" length="45602358" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:03:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Legal &amp; Human Rights Developments in Armenia - Ruben Melikyan | Ep #117 - Feb 4, 2022
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>117</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Legal &amp; Human Rights Developments in Armenia - Ruben Melikyan | Ep #117 - Feb 4, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - February 4, 2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Legal & Human Rights Developments in Armenia
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
Ruben Melikyan was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman, and prior to that he was rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO. Իրավական ուղի in Armenian.
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Decisions of the International Court of Justice
* Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
* More Constitutional Changes
* Civil Contract Appoints new HR Ombudsman for Armenia
* Continuing Harassment of Opposition Leaders
* Legislating Away Civil Liberties
Episode 117 | Recorded on Thursday, February 3, 2022</itunes:summary><description>Legal & Human Rights Developments in Armenia
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
Ruben Melikyan was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman, and prior to that he was rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO. Իրավական ուղի in Armenian.
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Decisions of the International Court of Justice
* Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
* More Constitutional Changes
* Civil Contract Appoints new HR Ombudsman for Armenia
* Continuing Harassment of Opposition Leaders
* Legislating Away Civil Liberties
Episode 117 | Recorded on Thursday, February 3, 2022</description><googleplay:description>Legal & Human Rights Developments in Armenia
A Conversation with Ruben Melikyan
Ruben Melikyan was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman, and prior to that he was rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO. Իրավական ուղի in Armenian.
#### Topics:
* Introduction
* Decisions of the International Court of Justice
* Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”
* More Constitutional Changes
* Civil Contract Appoints new HR Ombudsman for Armenia
* Continuing Harassment of Opposition Leaders
* Legislating Away Civil Liberties
Episode 117 | Recorded on Thursday, February 3, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show Notes</p>
<h2 id="decisions-of-the-international-court-of-justice">Decisions of the International Court of Justice</h2>
<p>Early in December 2021 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/world-court-orders-azerbaijan-prevent-incitement-racial-hatred-against-armenians-2021-12-07/">urgent decisions</a> in the case that was brought to it by Armenia. The decisions ordered both Armenia and Azerbaijan to &ldquo;&hellip;take all necessary measures to prevent the incitement and promotion of racial hatred&rdquo; against each other’s nationals. Additionally, the decision said that Azerbaijan must protect from violence and harm &ldquo;all persons captured in relation to the 2020 conflict who remain in detention&rdquo; and must &ldquo;prevent and punish acts of vandalism and desecration affecting Armenian cultural heritage&rdquo;.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What Armenia’s suit was about, and what do the decisions mean for us?</li>
<li>Will these decisions help protect our people and our heritage from gross violations?</li>
</ul>
<p>Armenia claims that Azerbaijan violated the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (aka CERD), because destruction of national heritage is a form of racial discrimination. Did the ICJ’s decisions take this point into account?</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where can Armenia go from here? How will it defend Artsakh’s Armenian population and heritage?</li>
</ul>
<p>What are your thoughts about ECHR’s <a href="https://oc-media.org/armenian-pm-wins-case-against-armenia-in-strasbourg-court/">ruling</a> that Armenia violated Pashinyan freedom of “freedom of expression, peaceful assembly, and to liberty and security” stemming from the March 1 case.</p>
<h2 id="turkish-armenian-normalization">Turkish-Armenian “Normalization”</h2>
<p>On January 14 Turkish and Armenian special representatives met in Moscow for the first Turkish-Armenian Normalization discussions. Parliament vice-speaker Ruben Rubinyan met with Turkish diplomat Serdar Kılıç, then all sides made positive comments and said they wanted to continue towards comprehensive relations, and world powers put out statements commending the discussions.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about this process?</li>
<li>What are the pitfalls and opportunities presented to Armenia in this process?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="more-constitutional-changes">More Constitutional Changes</h2>
<p>In April 2021, Pashinyan, in one of his speeches disclosed that he wants to change the constitution to a presidential system. He made that part of his party’s platform in the June 2021 elections. Now, it seems that the parliament has launched that process by <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/101406">creating</a> a committee to develop recommendations for changes to the constitution.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are the goals of the current initiative to change the Armenian Constitution?</li>
<li>How earnest is the Civil Contract’s official reason for initiating these changes: that is to transition to a semi-presidential system?</li>
<li>What is the “semi-presidential” system of government that is being talked about?</li>
<li>How was the constitutional amendment council selected?</li>
<li>Could there be alternative motives for changing the constitution, like “pre-conditions” from Azerbaijan and Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<p>Just a few days ago we talked with political analyst Suren Sargsyan who has discovered archival documents that suggest that since the early 1990’s, Turkey has demanded that Armenia drop the Armenian cause, recognize Turkey’s borders and remove all language or claims to Western Armenia. To support this, they want Armenia to change its Declaration of Independence and its Constitution to drop all references to the Armenian Cause.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Are you concerned that fulfilling long standing Turkish demands might be part of the goal of this initiative?</li>
<li>Can the Parliamentary opposition stop harmful, or short-sighted amendments?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="civil-contract-appoints-new-hr-ombudsman-for-armenia">Civil Contract Appoints new HR Ombudsman for Armenia</h2>
<p>Since 2016 Dr. Arman Tatoyan has been Armenia’s <a href="https://www.ombuds.am/en_us/site/AboutOmbudsMan/21">Ombudsman</a>, its Human Rights Defender. His term in office expires this month, in February.</p>
<p>Tatoyan is highly popular in both Armenia and the Diaspora, yet there has been friction with the Pashinyan administration. Last week the Civil Contract party <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1071001.html">proposed</a> and voted in first deputy justice minister <a href="http://arka.am/en/news/politics/parliamentary_committee_nominates_kristine_grigoryan_for_position_of_armenia_s_human_rights_defender/">Kristine Grigoryan</a> as the incoming ombudsman.</p>
<p><strong>Ruben</strong>, you are a former Ombudsman of Artsakh, so you are definitely an expert voice on this role!</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How do you assess Dr. Tatoyan’s tenure as Armenia’s human rights defender, and also his office’s relationship with the current government?</li>
<li>Would you speculate where his career is headed to?</li>
<li>What can you tell us about Ms. Kristine Grigoryan?</li>
<li>What are your expectations of her tenure as the new ombudsman?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="continuing-harassment-of-opposition-leaders">Continuing Harassment of Opposition Leaders</h2>
<p>Since the 44-day war ended in November 2020, the domestic politics of Armenia have been very unstable. Throughout 2021, opposition figures were harassed, jailed, and threatened with unending lawsuits. And we’ve seen some shady behind-the-scenes deals with government-associated entities that seem to be intended to strike at the opposition leaders’ financial resources. For example: the non-transparent deal for the Zangezur Copper Molybdenum Combine.</p>
<p>While these degradations in the norms of democracy in Armenia were <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31482461.html">noted</a> by international NGOs like Freedom House and Human Rights Watch, as a whole they don’t seem to have put a major dent in Armenia’s reputation with the West. Just last week, the PACE voted for a resolution <a href="https://arka.am/en/news/politics/pace_resolution_armenia_made_marked_progress_in_democratic_development_since_2018/">praising</a> Armenia for making “marked progress in democratic development since 2018”. This was particularly scandalous because it ignored the opposition’s vocal complaints about the issue of the harassment and jailing of pro-opposition figures; and it ignored the European Ombudsman Institute’s (EOI) <a href="https://verelq.am/hy/node/102742">statement slamming Armenian Public TV</a>, and the Armenian government, for “&hellip;pursuing a long-term policy of blocking the broadcasting of the Human Rights Defender.”</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you summarize the state of affairs in Armenia in this space?</li>
</ul>
<p>The most recent of the opposition issues we just described, started a week ago when Pashinyan’s government initiated <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31680002.html">legal action</a> to arrest a judge in Syunik, Boris Bakhshyan, after he let a jailed oppositionist, Ashot Minasyan, or Ashot Yerkat as he’s known colloquially, out on bail. Armenia’s prosecutor general Artur Davtyan would not say what the charges are against Bakhshyan, because of some need for “secrecy”. Bakhshyan has <a href="https://www.azatutyun.am/a/31681755.html">claimed</a> that the legal action against him is harassment and retribution for allowing an oppositionist out of jail.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Is the government behaving appropriately? Is it overstepping its boundaries?</li>
<li>Do you think Armenia is being given an easy grade by the international, mainly pro-western institutions?</li>
<li>Is democracy threatened?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="legislating-away-civil-liberties">Legislating away Civil Liberties</h2>
<p>One of the most worrisome developments for us is the rapid introduction of new freedom-limiting legislation (<a href="http://www.parliament.am/news.php?cat_id=2&amp;NewsID=15640&amp;year=2021&amp;month=11&amp;day=30&amp;lang=eng">Article 137.1</a>), that appears to be enforced by the regime selectively.</p>
<p>For instance, recently, through your Facebook post I learned that a criminal case was opened against an individual who shared content from ArmComedy (which is a satirical show) on their own Facebook profile, for severely insulting the Prime Minister. The law criminalizing such behavior was introduced last year.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you talk more about this case and the phenomenon in general?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/10010660-legal-human-rights-developments-in-armenia-ruben-melikyan-ep-117-feb-4-2022.mp3" length="38197236" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Ukraine | Antalya | Army Day in Armenia | The Ministry of Foreign Affairs | Ep #116 - Jan 30, 2022
[EP116]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/116-ukraine-antalya-army-day-in-armenia-the-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-ep-116-jan-30-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2022 01:03:59 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9983007-ukraine-antalya-army-day-in-armenia-the-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-ep-116-jan-30-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ukraine | Antalya | Army Day in Armenia | The Ministry of Foreign Affairs | Ep #116 - Jan 30, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
* 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
* 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
* 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* 31:11...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
* 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
* 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
* 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* 31:11 Rants/Announcements
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 116 | Recorded: Sunday, January 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220130.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
* 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
* 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
* 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* 31:11 Rants/Announcements
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 116 | Recorded: Sunday, January 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220130.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 30, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 00:43 Game of Chicken over Ukraine
* 08:17 Antalya Diplomatic Forum
* 22:54 Army Day in Armenia
* 27:54 Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* 31:11 Rants/Announcements
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 116 | Recorded: Sunday, January 30, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220130.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9983007-ukraine-antalya-army-day-in-armenia-the-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-ep-116-jan-30-2022.mp3" length="26601754" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Isabel Bayrakdarian talks about Armenian Songs for Children w/Bedros Afeyan | Ep. 115 - Jan 27, 2022
[EP115]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/115-isabel-bayrakdarian-talks-about-armenian-songs-for-children-with-bedros-afeyan-ep-115-jan-27-2022/</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 00:17:24 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9961631-isabel-bayrakdarian-talks-about-armenian-songs-for-children-with-bedros-afeyan-ep-115-jan-27-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Bedros Afeyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Isabel Bayrakdarian talks about Armenian Songs for Children w/Bedros Afeyan | Ep. 115 - Jan 27, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 01/27/2022
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>__Armenian Songs for Children__
Bedros Afeyan talks with Isabel Bayrakdarian
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Topics:
* Journey Back to Armenian Music
* Musical Harmony Between Armenian Music and Classical Canon
* Researching, Teaching and Choosing Songs
* Isabel's Favorites and Influences
#### Guest:
* [Isabel Bayrakdarian](/guest/ibayrakdarian) [@IBsoprano](https://twitter.com/IBsoprano)
#### Host:
* [Dr. Bedros Afeyan](/host/bafeyan)
Song Excerpts list & timestamps:
(Note: All excerpts used with permission)
* 00:00 Komitas - Sleep My Child - Lullaby
* 01:35 Komitas - Six Children's Songs
* 27:03 Ganachian - The Swallow / Tsitsernak
* 29:06 Komitas - Little Wooden Horse
* 41:57 & 45:00 & 46:42 Tumajan - Cradle Song - Lullaby from Putanya
* 56:12 Ganachian – Peaceful Night
* 01:05:43 Tumajan - 2 Playsongs from Agn Region
* 01:10:50 Tumajan - Orrim - Lullaby from Putanya
* 01:16:03 Ganachian - Serenade
* 00:17:11 Ganachian - Bjingo
Episode 115 | Recorded on Sunday, January 23, 2022</itunes:summary><description>__Armenian Songs for Children__
Bedros Afeyan talks with Isabel Bayrakdarian
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Topics:
* Journey Back to Armenian Music
* Musical Harmony Between Armenian Music and Classical Canon
* Researching, Teaching and Choosing Songs
* Isabel's Favorites and Influences
#### Guest:
* [Isabel Bayrakdarian](/guest/ibayrakdarian) [@IBsoprano](https://twitter.com/IBsoprano)
#### Host:
* [Dr. Bedros Afeyan](/host/bafeyan)
Song Excerpts list & timestamps:
(Note: All excerpts used with permission)
* 00:00 Komitas - Sleep My Child - Lullaby
* 01:35 Komitas - Six Children's Songs
* 27:03 Ganachian - The Swallow / Tsitsernak
* 29:06 Komitas - Little Wooden Horse
* 41:57 & 45:00 & 46:42 Tumajan - Cradle Song - Lullaby from Putanya
* 56:12 Ganachian – Peaceful Night
* 01:05:43 Tumajan - 2 Playsongs from Agn Region
* 01:10:50 Tumajan - Orrim - Lullaby from Putanya
* 01:16:03 Ganachian - Serenade
* 00:17:11 Ganachian - Bjingo
Episode 115 | Recorded on Sunday, January 23, 2022</description><googleplay:description>__Armenian Songs for Children__
Bedros Afeyan talks with Isabel Bayrakdarian
#### Groong Links:
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Topics:
* Journey Back to Armenian Music
* Musical Harmony Between Armenian Music and Classical Canon
* Researching, Teaching and Choosing Songs
* Isabel's Favorites and Influences
#### Guest:
* [Isabel Bayrakdarian](/guest/ibayrakdarian) [@IBsoprano](https://twitter.com/IBsoprano)
#### Host:
* [Dr. Bedros Afeyan](/host/bafeyan)
Song Excerpts list & timestamps:
(Note: All excerpts used with permission)
* 00:00 Komitas - Sleep My Child - Lullaby
* 01:35 Komitas - Six Children's Songs
* 27:03 Ganachian - The Swallow / Tsitsernak
* 29:06 Komitas - Little Wooden Horse
* 41:57 & 45:00 & 46:42 Tumajan - Cradle Song - Lullaby from Putanya
* 56:12 Ganachian – Peaceful Night
* 01:05:43 Tumajan - 2 Playsongs from Agn Region
* 01:10:50 Tumajan - Orrim - Lullaby from Putanya
* 01:16:03 Ganachian - Serenade
* 00:17:11 Ganachian - Bjingo
Episode 115 | Recorded on Sunday, January 23, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Komitas - Six Children’s Songs – Timestamp: 00:01:35</p>
<p>Internationally acclaimed soprano, Lebanese-born, Canadian-Armenian-American Isabel Bayrakdarian has released an album that draws on five generations of her family - from her great-grandparents to her own children.</p>
<p>Well, I was a child once where she was a child, 15 years later, namely, Beirut, Lebanon. And we both sang as acolytes in the Armenian Apostolic church - we sang the same mass, the same ancient hymns, wearing the same robes and sliding around in the same hand-me-down slippers. Then we both left Lebanon and settled in Canada, Montreal for me, Toronto for her, finished high school and studied engineering in college. Many years apart mind you! And now we are both living in sunny CA.</p>
<p>Somewhere in the middle of all that, of course, she became a famous opera singer, and I did not. But we are both still very much Armenian, passionately devoted to music, so I thought: what a wonderful opportunity to talk and explore what makes her tick! How she came to choose music and singing over biochemical engineering, how she views those decisions now, what are her favorite genres of classical music? How she prepares? How she maintains her voice? How she does the musical scholarship to unearth and dust off over a hundred-year-old village songs, intonations, accents, traditional renditions, resurrecting Agn, Ani, Bitlis, Diktanagerd, Bardizag, Bursa, Van, or Gesaria, among many other ashes of the Armenian Genocide, as well as parenthood, being a professor at UCSB, and in her spare time, a diva, a superstar, an award-winning international recording artist.</p>
<p>We have met on a number of occasions in the past. I first learned about you from my mother who was excited to hear that you were from Zahleh, when you won your voice international competition and CBC was all over it. Your album Joyous Light, 2002, made an indelible impression on me, and that reverberated in Atom Egoyan’s film Ararat, which I reviewed for Groong, 20 years ago now. I also remember the album and movie The Journey Home.</p>
<p>(1)  How did that journey back to Armenian music happen? How did you manage learning classical music and training your operatic voice while attending the prestigious University of Toronto, studying engineering, of all subjects?</p>
<p>(2)  Ganachian - The Swallow – Timestamp: 00:27:03</p>
<p>How would you characterize the differences between or the overall musical harmony uniting Armenian music, whether it be traditional, village heritage based, or Gomidas transcribed, vs the Western canon which you sing professionally, from Italian Operas to German Lieder to South American Tango gems? That’s quite a span!</p>
<p>(3)  Gomidas - Little Wooden Horse – Timestamp: 00:29:06</p>
<p>Let’s talk about the new album: Armenian Songs for Children.</p>
<p>It is ethnomusicology par excellence! Bartok or Gomidas (or Ravel or Dvorak) have nothing on you!  You have unearthed Armenian musical and expressive gems lost to the cruelties of time and conquerors past over a vast list landmass, Western Armenia. The songs of village folk, resurrected in your hands and brought back to life like an injured bird on a trembling windowsill on a cold winter morning, saved by you to find flight and gently soar away.</p>
<p>Tumajan - Cradle Song - Lullaby from Putanya – Timestamp: 00:41:57 &amp; 00:45:00 &amp; 00:46:42</p>
<p>Tell us about your song choices, the hard work of mastering and rendering them so beautifully accompanied with just a virtuoso harp and a virtuoso flute, by Ellie Choate and Ray Furata. Masterful simplicity and purity of sound, if I may be so bold as to say!</p>
<p>Tumajan – The Scarecrow - Playsong from Kharpert – Timestamp: 00:55:46</p>
<p>(4)  Ganachian – Peaceful Night – Timestamp: 00:56:12</p>
<p>What are your musical ambitions? Not yet reached summits? Dreams? Aspirations? Besides teaching the next generation which you are busy doing, of course.</p>
<p>(5)  Isabel, can you lead us through a typical day for you, if such a thing can be described. Say you are back home, during the semester, UCSB is open, and the children are in school, what is your day like? And then when you are on the road and away from home. How do you prepare, rehearse, choose your repertoire, expand it, do the groundwork before the flashing lights of the stage and your powerful voice capture the rest of the night in a blazing glory?</p>
<p>(6)  Tumajan - 2 Playsongs from Agn Region – Timestamp: 01:05:43</p>
<p>What books have influenced you the most? What composers? What singers? What musicians? What movie makers? What thinkers? Philosophers? Poets? Novelists? Painters?</p>
<p>(7)  Tumajan - Orrim - Lullaby from Putanya – Timestamp: 01:10:50</p>
<p>I know you write poetry yourself. Can you read something of yours here, on the air, for your fans?</p>
<p>(8)  You knew I was going to ask this. Can you also sing one of the bird songs from your wonderful and enchanting album of Armenian Songs for Children? My favorite incidentally, among 28 other masterpieces, is the lament or sorrowful song full of chagrin: Serenade.  Sing one for us, Isabel?</p>
<p>Ganachian - Serenade – Timestamp: 01:16:03</p>
<p>Ganachian - Bjingo – Timestamp: 01:17:11</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/115/thumbnail-115.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/115/thumbnail-115.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9961631-isabel-bayrakdarian-talks-about-armenian-songs-for-children-with-bedros-afeyan-ep-115-jan-27-2022.mp3" length="56057231" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:17:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>President Resigns | Ukraine Standoff | Vahan Kerobyan, Min of Comedy | Ep #114 - Jan 23, 2022
[EP114]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/114-president-resigns-ukraine-standoff-vahan-kerobyan-min-of-comedy-ep-114-jan-23-2022/</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 17:10:56 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9955086-president-resigns-ukraine-standoff-vahan-kerobyan-min-of-comedy-ep-114-jan-23-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode><itunes:title>President Resigns | Ukraine Standoff | Vahan Kerobyan, Min of Comedy | Ep #114 - Jan 23, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022

Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction 
* 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
* 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
* 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy

Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
* 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
* 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 114 | Recorded: Sunday, January 25, 2022</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
* 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
* 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 114 | Recorded: Sunday, January 25, 2022</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 23, 2022
Topics:
* 00:00 Introduction
* 01:04 President Armen Sarkissian Resigns
* 20:46 Russia-NATO Standoff over Ukraine
* 47:55 Vahan Kerobyan, Minister of Comedy
Guests:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan twitter.com/HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian twitter.com/qubriq
Episode 114 | Recorded: Sunday, January 25, 2022</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9955086-president-resigns-ukraine-standoff-vahan-kerobyan-min-of-comedy-ep-114-jan-23-2022.mp3" length="42132756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:58:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Major Incident on the Line of Contact | Turkish-Armenian Meeting in Moscow | Ep #113 - Jan 16, 2022
[EP113]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/113-major-incident-on-the-line-of-contact-turkish-armenian-meeting-in-moscow-ep-113-jan-16-2022/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:44:12 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9905175-major-incident-on-the-line-of-contact-turkish-armenian-meeting-in-moscow-ep-113-jan-16-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Major Incident on the Line of Contact | Turkish-Armenian Meeting in Moscow | Ep #113 - Jan 16, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022

Topics:
* Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
* Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow

Guests:
* Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar

Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022
Topics:
* Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
* Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow
Guests:
* Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 113 | Recorded: Sunday, January 17, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220116.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022
Topics:
* Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
* Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow
Guests:
* Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 113 | Recorded: Sunday, January 17, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220116.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 16, 2022
Topics:
* Major incident on the Armenia-Azerbaijan Line of Contact
* Turkish-Armenian meeting in Moscow
Guests:
* Edgar Elbakyan TW/@ElbakyanEdgar
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 113 | Recorded: Sunday, January 17, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220116.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9905175-major-incident-on-the-line-of-contact-turkish-armenian-meeting-in-moscow-ep-113-jan-16-2022.mp3" length="20267165" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:28:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Color Me Kazakhstan | Expectations From 1st Normalization Meeting on Friday | Ep #112 - Jan 9, 2022
[EP112]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/112-color-me-kazakhstan-first-normalization-meeting-on-friday-ep-112-jan-9-2022/</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9872090-color-me-kazakhstan-first-normalization-meeting-on-friday-ep-112-jan-9-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Color Me Kazakhstan | Expectations From 1st Normalization Meeting on Friday | Ep #112 - Jan 9, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022

Topics:
* Color Me Kazakhstan
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022
Topics:
* Color Me Kazakhstan
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 112 | Recorded: Sunday, January 9, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220109.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022
Topics:
* Color Me Kazakhstan
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 112 | Recorded: Sunday, January 9, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220109.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - January 9, 2022
Topics:
* Color Me Kazakhstan
* Turkish-Armenian Normalization Meeting on January 14
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 112 | Recorded: Sunday, January 9, 2022
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20220109.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9872090-color-me-kazakhstan-first-normalization-meeting-on-friday-ep-112-jan-9-2022.mp3" length="42553864" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:59:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Turkish Armenian Normalization - Conversation with Harut Sassounian | Ep #111 - Jan 9, 2022
[EP111]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/111-turkish-armenian-normalization-conversation-with-harut-sassounian-ep-111-jan-9-2022/</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2022 10:10:27 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9854809-turkish-armenian-normalization-conversation-with-harut-sassounian-ep-111-jan-9-2022.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Turkish Armenian Normalization - Conversation with Harut Sassounian | Ep #111 - Jan 9, 2022</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Turkish-Armenian Normalization Negotiations
A Conversation with Harut Sassounian

* Harut Sassounian has been the publisher of The California Courier newspaper since 1983. He is also the President of the Armenia Artsakh Fund, a non-profit...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Turkish-Armenian Normalization Negotiations
A Conversation with Harut Sassounian
* Harut Sassounian has been the publisher of The California Courier newspaper since 1983. He is also the President of the Armenia Artsakh Fund, a non-profit organization which has delivered to Armenia and Artsakh $947 million of humanitarian assistance since 1989. He is currently engaged in forming the Diaspora Armenian Parliament through local elections.
Topics:
* History of Turkish-Armenian Attempts at Negotiations
* Who are The Players?
* Why Now? What's on the Agenda?
* What are the Pitfalls and Opportunities?
* Diaspora vis-à-vis the Armenian Republic
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 111 | Recorded on Friday, January 7, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220109.html</itunes:summary><description>Turkish-Armenian Normalization Negotiations
A Conversation with Harut Sassounian
* Harut Sassounian has been the publisher of The California Courier newspaper since 1983. He is also the President of the Armenia Artsakh Fund, a non-profit organization which has delivered to Armenia and Artsakh $947 million of humanitarian assistance since 1989. He is currently engaged in forming the Diaspora Armenian Parliament through local elections.
Topics:
* History of Turkish-Armenian Attempts at Negotiations
* Who are The Players?
* Why Now? What's on the Agenda?
* What are the Pitfalls and Opportunities?
* Diaspora vis-à-vis the Armenian Republic
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 111 | Recorded on Friday, January 7, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220109.html</description><googleplay:description>Turkish-Armenian Normalization Negotiations
A Conversation with Harut Sassounian
* Harut Sassounian has been the publisher of The California Courier newspaper since 1983. He is also the President of the Armenia Artsakh Fund, a non-profit organization which has delivered to Armenia and Artsakh $947 million of humanitarian assistance since 1989. He is currently engaged in forming the Diaspora Armenian Parliament through local elections.
Topics:
* History of Turkish-Armenian Attempts at Negotiations
* Who are The Players?
* Why Now? What's on the Agenda?
* What are the Pitfalls and Opportunities?
* Diaspora vis-à-vis the Armenian Republic
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 111 | Recorded on Friday, January 7, 2022
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20220109.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9854809-turkish-armenian-normalization-conversation-with-harut-sassounian-ep-111-jan-9-2022.mp3" length="46485752" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:04:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pashinyan press conference | Kocharyan press conference | EVN Mayor Saga | Ep #110 - Dec 26, 2021
[EP110]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/110-pashinyan-press-conference-kocharyan-press-conference-yerevan-mayor-saga-ep-110-dec-26-2021/</link><pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 02:09:30 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9801699-pashinyan-press-conference-kocharyan-press-conference-yerevan-mayor-saga-ep-110-dec-26-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>110</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan press conference | Kocharyan press conference | EVN Mayor Saga | Ep #110 - Dec 26, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021

Topics:
* Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
* Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
* The Yerevan Mayor Saga

Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021
Topics:
* Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
* Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
* The Yerevan Mayor Saga
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 110 | Recorded: Sunday, December 27, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211226.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021
Topics:
* Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
* Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
* The Yerevan Mayor Saga
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 110 | Recorded: Sunday, December 27, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211226.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 26, 2021
Topics:
* Nikol Pashinyan holds a press conference
* Robert Kocharyan holds a press conference
* The Yerevan Mayor Saga
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@ TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 110 | Recorded: Sunday, December 27, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211226.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9801699-pashinyan-press-conference-kocharyan-press-conference-yerevan-mayor-saga-ep-110-dec-26-2021.mp3" length="40226356" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Thirty Years After the USSR | Ep #109 - Dec 26, 2021
[EP109]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/109-thirty-years-after-the-ussr-ep-109-dec-26-2021/</link><pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2021 06:31:02 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9788895-thirty-years-after-the-ussr-ep-109-dec-26-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>109</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Thirty Years After the USSR | Ep #109 - Dec 26, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Thirty Years After the USSR

* Dr. Pietro Shakarian is a Lecturer in history at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Eastern Armenia and the Caucasus, especially Soviet Armenia during the era of...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Thirty Years After the USSR
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian is a Lecturer in history at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Eastern Armenia and the Caucasus, especially Soviet Armenia during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw. His analyses on Russia and the former Soviet region have appeared in The Nation, The Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Hetq, and more.
Topics:
* How did the USSR Dissolve, who were the personalities behind it?
* Did Ethnic Nationalism Have a Hand in it?
* Did Ronald Reagan Defeat the Soviet Union?
* What are the Geopolitical, Democracy, Historical Memory Legacies of the FSU in the Former Soviet Republics?
* Was the Dissolution Inevitable?
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 109 | Recorded on Sunday, December 26, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211226.html</itunes:summary><description>Thirty Years After the USSR
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian is a Lecturer in history at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Eastern Armenia and the Caucasus, especially Soviet Armenia during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw. His analyses on Russia and the former Soviet region have appeared in The Nation, The Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Hetq, and more.
Topics:
* How did the USSR Dissolve, who were the personalities behind it?
* Did Ethnic Nationalism Have a Hand in it?
* Did Ronald Reagan Defeat the Soviet Union?
* What are the Geopolitical, Democracy, Historical Memory Legacies of the FSU in the Former Soviet Republics?
* Was the Dissolution Inevitable?
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 109 | Recorded on Sunday, December 26, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211226.html</description><googleplay:description>Thirty Years After the USSR
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian is a Lecturer in history at the American University of Armenia in Yerevan. His research focuses on the history of Eastern Armenia and the Caucasus, especially Soviet Armenia during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw. His analyses on Russia and the former Soviet region have appeared in The Nation, The Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Hetq, and more.
Topics:
* How did the USSR Dissolve, who were the personalities behind it?
* Did Ethnic Nationalism Have a Hand in it?
* Did Ronald Reagan Defeat the Soviet Union?
* What are the Geopolitical, Democracy, Historical Memory Legacies of the FSU in the Former Soviet Republics?
* Was the Dissolution Inevitable?
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 109 | Recorded on Sunday, December 26, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211226.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9788895-thirty-years-after-the-ussr-ep-109-dec-26-2021.mp3" length="33936808" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:47:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Normalization | Brussels Sprouts | NSC Chair in DC | Armenia Project Tour | Ep. 108 - Dec 19, 2021
[EP108]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/108-turkish-armenian-normalization-brussels-sprouts-armenian-nsc-chair-in-dc-armenia-project-tour-ep-108-dec-19-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 00:26:16 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9759725-turkish-armenian-normalization-brussels-sprouts-armenian-nsc-chair-in-dc-armenia-project-tour-ep-108-dec-19-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Normalization | Brussels Sprouts | NSC Chair in DC | Armenia Project Tour | Ep. 108 - Dec 19, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 12/19/2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 19, 2021
#### Topics:
* Turkish-Armenian normalization
* Brussels Sprouts
* Armen Grigoryan in Washington DC
* The Armenian Project - US Tour
* Analyst Rants
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 108 | Recorded: December 20, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 19, 2021
#### Topics:
* Turkish-Armenian normalization
* Brussels Sprouts
* Armen Grigoryan in Washington DC
* The Armenian Project - US Tour
* Analyst Rants
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 108 | Recorded: December 20, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 19, 2021
#### Topics:
* Turkish-Armenian normalization
* Brussels Sprouts
* Armen Grigoryan in Washington DC
* The Armenian Project - US Tour
* Analyst Rants
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 108 | Recorded: December 20, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="turkish-armenian-normalization">Turkish-Armenian Normalization</h2>
<p>A few days before the trip to Brussels, a little unexpectedly we heard news reports that Armenian-Turkish relations are in the process of being normalized. The two countries were at the time slated to nominate envoys for the process. Another surprise, for us, was that the news was announced by Mevlut Cavusoglu (Turkey’s foreign minister) at a routine event. Only a day after it was confirmed by the Armenian Foreign Ministry in a short statement.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What does this process mean? Also, why was this anxiety-ridden topic for Armenians disclosed to the Armenian public in such a manner?</li>
<li>What does “normalization” mean? Is now the right time to normalize relations for Armenia? And if not, when is the right time to normalize relations?</li>
<li>Is the noise raised by the opposition for internal consumption or is there really something to worry about?</li>
<li>Isn’t “talking to the enemy” a good thing?</li>
<li>Is the problem only that there is distrust in who is doing the talking OR have we already seen causes for concern?</li>
<li>What is the right model of normalization for Armenia and Turkey to pursue?</li>
</ul>
<p>Background:</p>
<ul>
<li>Varuzhan Geghamyan’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/varujeans/posts/10224904300945052">Facebook post</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is the history of this episode of “warming”
<ul>
<li>Has this process been going on for longer than the Armenian government is admitting?</li>
<li>When did the Armenian government start working towards normalizing relations?</li>
<li>There were reports several months ago that Armenia sought Georgia’s help in establishing relations with Turkey, with Pashinyan even visiting Batumi for that purpose. Then, the process seems to have been transferred to the 3+x platform. What followed in these developments?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Announcements
<ul>
<li>Turkey announced it a day earlier, in an unceremonial manner at a parliamentary committee hearing</li>
<li>Armenian MFA, the following day made an unceremonious statement on their website</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The Turkish and Armenian envoys are known:
<ul>
<li>Who is Serdar Kiliç?</li>
<li>Who is Ruben Rubinyan?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="brussels-sprouts">Brussels Sprouts</h2>
<p>Pashinyan and President Aliyev met twice. Once with Charles Michel, and once with Emmanuel Macron.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What was achieved in Brussels?</li>
</ul>
<p>Note <a href="https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/3526874.html">Aliyev’s statement</a> about equating Berdzor/Lachin corridor with the “Zangezur corridor” &amp; threatening to put checkpoints there.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why did he say this in Brussels, but not in Sochi?</li>
</ul>
<p>The entire analytical community expected this meeting to be around humanitarian issues such as return of POWs, minefield maps, etc… Yet in reality it appears that they touched on geopolitical issues, including apparently coming to an agreement on a rail route going through Meghri.</p>
<p>There was an alternative rail route from Ijevan to Qazakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can you describe the difference between the southern route through Meghri and the northern route, which at one point was touted by Pashinyan?</li>
<li>What is the advantage and disadvantage of each?</li>
<li>Ijevan-Qazakh seems to already be mostly there.</li>
<li>Details about the train route</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="armen-grigoryan-in-washington-dc">Armen Grigoryan in Washington DC</h2>
<p>Armen Grigoryan, the secretary of Armenia’s National security council visited the US.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Was this a consequential visit, or was it just PR?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-armenian-project---us-tour">The Armenian Project - US Tour</h2>
<p>Varuzhan Geghamyan co-founded <a href="https://armenianproject.com/">The Armenian Project</a> and was touring various communities recently and will reflect on these meetings and provide more details about the project.</p>
<h2 id="thoughts-from-the-participants">Thoughts from the Participants</h2>
<ul>
<li><strong>Hovik:</strong> On Malena’s winning Eurovision performance.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/108/thumbnail-108.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/108/thumbnail-108.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9759725-turkish-armenian-normalization-brussels-sprouts-armenian-nsc-chair-in-dc-armenia-project-tour-ep-108-dec-19-2021.mp3" length="50873112" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:10:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian and Azerbaijani Expert Perspectives on Negotiations | Ep #107 - Dec 15, 2021
[EP107]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/107-armenian-and-azerbaijani-expert-perspectives-on-negotiations-ep-107-dec-15-2021/</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9729656-armenian-and-azerbaijani-expert-perspectives-on-negotiations-ep-107-dec-15-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian and Azerbaijani Expert Perspectives on Negotiations | Ep #107 - Dec 15, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations

Guests:
* Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations
Guests:
* Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of Yerevan-based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
Topics:
* Artsakh Status (@4:54)
* Is the conflict really "solved" (@11:04)
* Opening of Communications (@38:52)
* Corridor for Corridor (@46:32)
* "Unimpeded" Access (@50:15)
* Russia's regional role (@53:16)
* Turkey's regional role (@58:48)
* 3+3 or 3+2 Format (@1:02:06)
* Questions:
- Demarcation and delimitation in context of "corridors" (1:05:55)
- Shahumyan region (1:08:57)
- Which maps to use for demarcation & delimitation (1:17:01)
    - Is Azerbaijani post-war rhetoric conducive for peace (1:18:14)
* Recap (@1:26:59)
Description:
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we'll be talking with two specialists from Armenia and from Azerbaijan, and explore their views and perspectives on the problems and solutions they envision for long-term peace between the neighbors.
Since the second war in Artsakh in 2020, also known as the 44-Day war, which culminated in the signing of the November Agreement by Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia, the three countries have been negotiating the fulfillment of that agreement. The agreement contained 9 points, of which the first 5 are primarily complete, 6 and 7 are more or less in progress, but 8 and 9 continue to be deeply problematic despite intensive and contentious yearlong negotiations.
What are the perspectives and stumbling blocks that have prevented peace, a year after the war ended?
Why is there a need to have such a discussion right now? The temperature of the post-war negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan has reached a boiling point, with Azerbaijan's president Aliyev issuing ultimatums and demands for dates for Armenia to open "corridors" for Azerbaijan. In trying to create a more informed Armenian public about these negotiations, we hope that such discussions can clarify what the sides are saying to each other, and what the sides are hearing from each other.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211215.html
Episode 107 | Recorded on Tuesday, December 14, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations
Guests:
* Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of Yerevan-based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
Topics:
* Artsakh Status (@4:54)
* Is the conflict really "solved" (@11:04)
* Opening of Communications (@38:52)
* Corridor for Corridor (@46:32)
* "Unimpeded" Access (@50:15)
* Russia's regional role (@53:16)
* Turkey's regional role (@58:48)
* 3+3 or 3+2 Format (@1:02:06)
* Questions:
- Demarcation and delimitation in context of "corridors" (1:05:55)
- Shahumyan region (1:08:57)
- Which maps to use for demarcation & delimitation (1:17:01)
    - Is Azerbaijani post-war rhetoric conducive for peace (1:18:14)
* Recap (@1:26:59)
Description:
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we'll be talking with two specialists from Armenia and from Azerbaijan, and explore their views and perspectives on the problems and solutions they envision for long-term peace between the neighbors.
Since the second war in Artsakh in 2020, also known as the 44-Day war, which culminated in the signing of the November Agreement by Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia, the three countries have been negotiating the fulfillment of that agreement. The agreement contained 9 points, of which the first 5 are primarily complete, 6 and 7 are more or less in progress, but 8 and 9 continue to be deeply problematic despite intensive and contentious yearlong negotiations.
What are the perspectives and stumbling blocks that have prevented peace, a year after the war ended?
Why is there a need to have such a discussion right now? The temperature of the post-war negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan has reached a boiling point, with Azerbaijan's president Aliyev issuing ultimatums and demands for dates for Armenia to open "corridors" for Azerbaijan. In trying to create a more informed Armenian public about these negotiations, we hope that such discussions can clarify what the sides are saying to each other, and what the sides are hearing from each other.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211215.html
Episode 107 | Recorded on Tuesday, December 14, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Anar Valiyev and Benyamin Poghosyan discuss stumbling blocks in post-war negotiations
Guests:
* Dr. Anar Valiyev, Associate Professor at Azerbaijani Diplomatic Academy (ADA) University in Baku.
* Dr. Benyamin Poghosyan, Chairman of Yerevan-based think tank Center for Political and Economic Strategic Studies.
Topics:
* Artsakh Status (@4:54)
* Is the conflict really "solved" (@11:04)
* Opening of Communications (@38:52)
* Corridor for Corridor (@46:32)
* "Unimpeded" Access (@50:15)
* Russia's regional role (@53:16)
* Turkey's regional role (@58:48)
* 3+3 or 3+2 Format (@1:02:06)
* Questions:
- Demarcation and delimitation in context of "corridors" (1:05:55)
- Shahumyan region (1:08:57)
- Which maps to use for demarcation & delimitation (1:17:01)
    - Is Azerbaijani post-war rhetoric conducive for peace (1:18:14)
* Recap (@1:26:59)
Description:
In this Conversations on Groong episode, we'll be talking with two specialists from Armenia and from Azerbaijan, and explore their views and perspectives on the problems and solutions they envision for long-term peace between the neighbors.
Since the second war in Artsakh in 2020, also known as the 44-Day war, which culminated in the signing of the November Agreement by Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia, the three countries have been negotiating the fulfillment of that agreement. The agreement contained 9 points, of which the first 5 are primarily complete, 6 and 7 are more or less in progress, but 8 and 9 continue to be deeply problematic despite intensive and contentious yearlong negotiations.
What are the perspectives and stumbling blocks that have prevented peace, a year after the war ended?
Why is there a need to have such a discussion right now? The temperature of the post-war negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan has reached a boiling point, with Azerbaijan's president Aliyev issuing ultimatums and demands for dates for Armenia to open "corridors" for Azerbaijan. In trying to create a more informed Armenian public about these negotiations, we hope that such discussions can clarify what the sides are saying to each other, and what the sides are hearing from each other.
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211215.html
Episode 107 | Recorded on Tuesday, December 14, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9729656-armenian-and-azerbaijani-expert-perspectives-on-negotiations-ep-107-dec-15-2021.mp3" length="70902026" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:38:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Zoom for Democracy | Domestic &amp; Regional Politics | Artsakh Republic at 30 | Ep #106 - Dec 12, 2021
[EP106]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/106-zoom-for-democracy-domestic-regional-politics-artsakh-independence-at-30-ep-106-dec-12-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2021 03:15:02 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9710668-zoom-for-democracy-domestic-regional-politics-artsakh-independence-at-30-ep-106-dec-12-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Zoom for Democracy | Domestic &amp; Regional Politics | Artsakh Republic at 30 | Ep #106 - Dec 12, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 12, 2021

Topics:
* Zoom for Democracy
* Domestic Politics
* Regional Politics
* Artsakh Independence at 30
* Analyst Rants

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 12, 2021
Topics:
* Zoom for Democracy
* Domestic Politics
* Regional Politics
* Artsakh Independence at 30
* Analyst Rants
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 106 | Recorded: Sunday, December 12, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 12, 2021
Topics:
* Zoom for Democracy
* Domestic Politics
* Regional Politics
* Artsakh Independence at 30
* Analyst Rants
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 106 | Recorded: Sunday, December 12, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 12, 2021
Topics:
* Zoom for Democracy
* Domestic Politics
* Regional Politics
* Artsakh Independence at 30
* Analyst Rants
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 106 | Recorded: Sunday, December 12, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9710668-zoom-for-democracy-domestic-regional-politics-artsakh-independence-at-30-ep-106-dec-12-2021.mp3" length="60734503" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:24:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Regional Geopolitics | Turkmen / Iran Gas | Armenian Opposition Fizzles Out | Ep #105 - Dec 5, 2021
[EP105]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/105-regional-geopolitics-turkmen-iran-gas-armenian-opposition-fizzles-out-ep-105-dec-5-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2021 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9670654-regional-geopolitics-turkmen-iran-gas-armenian-opposition-fizzles-out-ep-105-dec-5-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Regional Geopolitics | Turkmen / Iran Gas | Armenian Opposition Fizzles Out | Ep #105 - Dec 5, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 5, 2021

Topics:
* Regional Geopolitics @1:07
* Turkmenistan / Iran Gas Swap Deal @46:58
* Opposition Fizzles Out. Again @58:18

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 5, 2021
Topics:
* Regional Geopolitics @1:07
* Turkmenistan / Iran Gas Swap Deal @46:58
* Opposition Fizzles Out. Again @58:18
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 105 | Recorded: Sunday, December 5, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211205.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 5, 2021
Topics:
* Regional Geopolitics @1:07
* Turkmenistan / Iran Gas Swap Deal @46:58
* Opposition Fizzles Out. Again @58:18
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 105 | Recorded: Sunday, December 5, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211205.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - December 5, 2021
Topics:
* Regional Geopolitics @1:07
* Turkmenistan / Iran Gas Swap Deal @46:58
* Opposition Fizzles Out. Again @58:18
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 105 | Recorded: Sunday, December 5, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211205.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9670654-regional-geopolitics-turkmen-iran-gas-armenian-opposition-fizzles-out-ep-105-dec-5-2021.mp3" length="48215746" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:06:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pashinyan Live | From Sochi to Brussels | Normalization | Co-opetition | Ep #104 - Nov 28, 2021
[EP104]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/104-pashinyan-live-trilateral-in-sochi-bilateral-in-brussels-turkish-armenian-normalization-russian-turkish-co-opetition-ep-104-nov-28-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 03:25:55 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9628534-pashinyan-live-trilateral-in-sochi-bilateral-in-brussels-turkish-armenian-normalization-russian-turkish-co-opetition-ep-104-nov-28-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan Live | From Sochi to Brussels | Normalization | Co-opetition | Ep #104 - Nov 28, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 28, 2021

Topics:
* Pashinyan Live on Facebook
* Trilateral in Sochi, Bilateral in Brussels
* Turkish-Armenian "Normalization"
* Russian-Turkish "Co-opetition" in Eurasia

Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 28, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan Live on Facebook
* Trilateral in Sochi, Bilateral in Brussels
* Turkish-Armenian "Normalization"
* Russian-Turkish "Co-opetition" in Eurasia
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
* Yeghia Tashjian TW/@yeghig
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 104 | Recorded: Sunday, November 28, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211128.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 28, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan Live on Facebook
* Trilateral in Sochi, Bilateral in Brussels
* Turkish-Armenian "Normalization"
* Russian-Turkish "Co-opetition" in Eurasia
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
* Yeghia Tashjian TW/@yeghig
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 104 | Recorded: Sunday, November 28, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211128.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 28, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan Live on Facebook
* Trilateral in Sochi, Bilateral in Brussels
* Turkish-Armenian "Normalization"
* Russian-Turkish "Co-opetition" in Eurasia
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
* Yeghia Tashjian TW/@yeghig
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 104 | Recorded: Sunday, November 28, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211128.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9628534-pashinyan-live-trilateral-in-sochi-bilateral-in-brussels-turkish-armenian-normalization-russian-turkish-co-opetition-ep-104-nov-28-2021.mp3" length="37933152" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Russia-NATO | Border | Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels! | Protests in EVN | Ep #103 - Nov 21, 2021
[EP103]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/103-russia-nato-escalation-border-escalation-goodbye-moscow-hello-brussels-protests-in-yerevan-ep-101-nov-14-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2021 17:54:38 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9596885-russia-nato-escalation-border-escalation-goodbye-moscow-hello-brussels-protests-in-yerevan-ep-101-nov-14-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Russia-NATO | Border | Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels! | Protests in EVN | Ep #103 - Nov 21, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021

Topics:

- Russia-NATO escalation
- Border escalation
- Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
- Protests in Yerevan

Guest: Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:
 - Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
 - Asbed...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021
Topics:
- Russia-NATO escalation
- Border escalation
- Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
- Protests in Yerevan
Guest: Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 103 | Recorded: Monday, November 22, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211121.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021
Topics:
- Russia-NATO escalation
- Border escalation
- Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
- Protests in Yerevan
Guest: Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 103 | Recorded: Monday, November 22, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211121.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 21, 2021
Topics:
- Russia-NATO escalation
- Border escalation
- Goodbye Moscow, Hello Brussels!
- Protests in Yerevan
Guest: Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 103 | Recorded: Monday, November 22, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211121.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9596885-russia-nato-escalation-border-escalation-goodbye-moscow-hello-brussels-protests-in-yerevan-ep-101-nov-14-2021.mp3" length="31045822" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:43:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Vardan Aramyan - Armenian Budget and Economy For 2022 | Ep 102 - Nov 21, 2021
[EP102]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/102-vardan-aramyan-state-of-the-armenian-economy-nov-21-2021/</link><pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2021 02:00:00 +0400</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9584896-state-of-the-armenian-economy-conversation-with-vardan-aramyan-ep-102-nov-21-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Vardan Aramyan - Armenian Budget and Economy For 2022 | Ep 102 - Nov 21, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
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* [Mr. Vardan Aramyan](/guest/varamyan) - Fmr. Minister of Finance, Republic of Armenia
#### Topics:
* 2022 Budget and Economic Growth @1:24
* Did Armenian economy recover already? @3:55
* Does the structure of growth mirror worldwide growth @8:55
* What happens if growth doesn't meet target @14:25
* Why did the IMF underestimate Armenian growth initially @17:38
* Growth Sectors in Budget @23:41
* Are prices for Copper/Aluminum extremely inflated? @25:50
* Inflation @32:48
* Effect on wages, income inequality, poverty & other socioeconomic markers? @41:36
* Corridor Economics @45:55
* $2.6B EU Aid Package @50:42
* Artsakh @57:55
Episode 102 | Recorded: November 20, 2021</itunes:summary><description>
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#### Guest:
* [Mr. Vardan Aramyan](/guest/varamyan) - Fmr. Minister of Finance, Republic of Armenia
#### Topics:
* 2022 Budget and Economic Growth @1:24
* Did Armenian economy recover already? @3:55
* Does the structure of growth mirror worldwide growth @8:55
* What happens if growth doesn't meet target @14:25
* Why did the IMF underestimate Armenian growth initially @17:38
* Growth Sectors in Budget @23:41
* Are prices for Copper/Aluminum extremely inflated? @25:50
* Inflation @32:48
* Effect on wages, income inequality, poverty & other socioeconomic markers? @41:36
* Corridor Economics @45:55
* $2.6B EU Aid Package @50:42
* Artsakh @57:55
Episode 102 | Recorded: November 20, 2021</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Mr. Vardan Aramyan](/guest/varamyan) - Fmr. Minister of Finance, Republic of Armenia
#### Topics:
* 2022 Budget and Economic Growth @1:24
* Did Armenian economy recover already? @3:55
* Does the structure of growth mirror worldwide growth @8:55
* What happens if growth doesn't meet target @14:25
* Why did the IMF underestimate Armenian growth initially @17:38
* Growth Sectors in Budget @23:41
* Are prices for Copper/Aluminum extremely inflated? @25:50
* Inflation @32:48
* Effect on wages, income inequality, poverty & other socioeconomic markers? @41:36
* Corridor Economics @45:55
* $2.6B EU Aid Package @50:42
* Artsakh @57:55
Episode 102 | Recorded: November 20, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="2022-budget--economic-growth">2022 Budget &amp; Economic Growth</h2>
<p><strong>Groong @1:29:</strong></p>
<p>Let’s begin with the budget. The 2022 budget proposal is currently making its way through the Armenian parliament. There are lots of impressive goals, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>7% economic growth</li>
<li>Sharp increase in expenses</li>
<li>Sharp increase in income (based on improved taxation)</li>
</ul>
<p>It even foresees a 0.7% decline in the government’s debt-to-GDP ratio.</p>
<p>Government representatives claim that this budget is a testament to Armenia’s strong economic recovery. Meanwhile, the Central Bank of Armenia (the CBA) called the budget proposal “quite ambitious”. (Maybe that’s code for unachievable?)</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your overall assessment of the 2022 Armenian budget? Is it realistic?</li>
<li>If you don’t agree with the economic growth forecast, do you have a prediction of what growth can be expected?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Before making a judgement on the budget, we need to discuss the basis for the macroeconomic performance and growth.</li>
<li>All around the world there’s a strong recovery and impressive V-shaped growth.</li>
<li>Good News: In Armenia for the first 9 months, we’ve had 4.4 percent indicator of economic activity (which is an indicator of economic growth).</li>
<li>Bad News: In order to make a judgement whether this is good or bad, we need to make a comparison with other countries and figures from previous year.
<ul>
<li>Last year our economic downturn was 7.4%</li>
<li>And current recovery of 4.4% or 5% is not enough to fully compensate.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong: @1:29</strong></p>
<p>Previously there were claims by the government that the Armenian economy has essentially recovered. So you don’t agree with that assessment?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan: @3:42</strong></p>
<p>Absolutely. The pace of the recovery is slow. The structure of the recovery is also worrisome.</p>
<ul>
<li>Need to pay attention to 2 facets, the structure and pace of the recovery from the downturn.</li>
<li>And looking at countries, in neighboring Georgia the downturn was around 6% and they have quite an impressive recovery of more than 10%.
<ul>
<li>This highlights how effective the government policies were in order to withstand the effects of the downturn.</li>
<li>Looking at the micro-level, there are indications of shortcomings (for Armenia).</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Why is this important? Because it affects reliability of government claims for the planned figure of economic growth in the future.</li>
<li>Aramyan fully shares the position of the Central Bank.</li>
<li>Credibility is important!
<ul>
<li>Budget is not about figures. Budget is about fiscal policy and messages to the economy</li>
<li>Budget is about how effectively you want to anchor the expectation of businesses, which are the key players for generating economic growth</li>
<li>Government must pay attention to the credibility, which comes from what you promise and how you perform against those promises</li>
<li>If there is a big gap between your message and the real numbers, of course it harms your credibility.</li>
<li>In the end of the day it has a feedback effect to the economy.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Armenian recovery is not so strong but there’s also a 2nd aspect, the structure of the economic growth:
<ul>
<li>If you look at the structure, it is led by the non-tradable sector (compared with tradable sector)</li>
<li>The breakdown of the 4.4% growth is as follows:</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Industry growth rounds down to 0</li>
<li>Agriculture sector has negative growth</li>
<li>Construction and services are growing at a higher pace
<ul>
<li>This indicates there’s something wrong with the economic structure which the government must pay close attention to. The story of the 2000-2009 seems to be repeating.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>You will remember in the 2000s, there was a dot com crisis</li>
<li>The federal reserve aggressively reacted by &lt;inaudible&gt; interest rates and injecting a lot of liquidity into the economy.</li>
<li>In the developing world, this resulted in a demand-pull economic growth, where the non-tradable sector began to blossom and stole resources from the tradable sector.
<ul>
<li>In our recovery mostly consumption is leading and that’s very dangerous.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong: @8:43</strong></p>
<p>Does the structure of the economic growth in Armenia mirror worldwide growth or is the phenomenon local to Armenia?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>There are two stages, and we need to look at economic development separately:</p>
<ul>
<li>The two stages of development are:
<ul>
<li>After 2018</li>
<li>After the crisis</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>After 2018, what happened:
<ul>
<li>Development is specific to Armenia:
<ul>
<li>Armenia is not the first nor last country where such changes of power happened.</li>
<li>Worldwide experience shows that such changes in power create biased expectations in society, where members think that there’s a new (better) government without paying attention to their productivity and skills.</li>
<li>Based on this biased expectation, they up-front their consumption. This consumption needs finances, which came from banking credit.</li>
<li>Consumer consumption of credit skyrocketed (40% annual increase).</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Global tendencies that have fueled consumption:
<ul>
<li>There are global players (US, EU) whose currencies are considered as “world currency” and many assets are priced in dollars</li>
<li>The US government, only through the fiscal channel, just inserted liquidity of $1.8T and this liquidity will affect different channels, such as: High commodity prices (including metals), Transfer of remittances (potentially 50% increase YOY)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>“My humble recommendation in this matter is that we need to be careful. And we need to do a policy where we have to tax consumption and do a lot of endeavors to support the tradable sector, including capital expenditures.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Now let’s turn to the budget:
<ul>
<li>From a first glance, on a macro level, the structure of the budget is quite good.</li>
<li>Fiscal rules introduced when Aramyan was minister of finance are being followed, after being violated recently (which is normal). After the crisis, countries that violated fiscal rules are taking action to consolidate and return to normal.</li>
<li>For instance, is if you have a problem with debt and you are obliged to conduct an expansionary fiscal policy, then for 1 year you tolerate that your debt will violate the debt-to-gdp ratio targets, but for upcoming years you need to plan and execute such policies in order to bring the debt-to-gdp ratio into safe zone.</li>
<li>However, there is a problem with the basis of this budget because if you’re going to be wrong in terms of economic growth and actual growth will be lower for the current and upcoming year, this means that something will happen to the budget.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong: @14:12</strong></p>
<p>What happens if the growth is only 3%?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>Right, and Aramyan is sceptical that the government will hit the 6.5% projected growth.</p>
<ul>
<li>“Perhaps we will hit 5.0-5.2%, which means with the base effect, we’re going to have a problem for the next year.”</li>
<li>4-5% global growth is something that we can consider as best case.</li>
<li>Our potential, based on different estimates, is 3-4%. Already 5% is above your potential.</li>
<li>Hitting this target permanently, means embarking on deep and comprehensive reform. Very aggressive in terms of restructuring, in order to attract/capture stability, etc…</li>
<li>Thus, if actual growth will be lower, then we need to look at the structure of expenses.</li>
<li>Current expenditures are very optimistic. Aramyan warned the government in 2019 not to incur new obligations (increases in pensions, salaries, etc…).</li>
<li>Unfair approach towards citizens: It will be very difficult to scale down increases in salaries/pensions if the economy doesn’t perform well.</li>
<li>“Populism is very dangerous here. We need to be sure that economic structure and fundamentals can generate 6-7% economic growth and after that I can promise to increase your pensions.”</li>
<li>The good news is that the 2020 budget doesn’t envision increases in pensions/salaries, but they did it in 2018 and 2019.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong: @17:25</strong></p>
<p>Previously, economic growth for Armenia was forecast at 1.4% for 2021 by the IMF and 3.1% by the World Bank. However, recently they upgraded this assessment to 6%. This is still less than the double-digit economic growth which the minister of economy Vahan Kerobyan promised.</p>
<ul>
<li>What accounted for the underestimation?</li>
<li>Is this due to global or local effects?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>We need to be careful to deliver neither too conservative nor optimistic messages. At the end of 2020 the IMF (and Central Bank) estimated Armenian economic growth to be at 2%.</p>
<p>The main factor in that expectation was Armenia’s reaction to Covid (anti-crisis measures).</p>
<ul>
<li>The lockdowns caused great strain on businesses.</li>
<li>Rather than injecting liquidity quickly and uniformly.</li>
<li>In the early stage (March/April 2020) they targeted credit channels, which means banks lent that money to businesses selectively and it was slow</li>
<li>The recommendation to the government was to defer profit tax. The government didn’t implement this initially and “the message that the Prime Minister delivered is that we’re never going to touch this instrument”.</li>
<li>Then, the government implemented tax-deferral 2-3 months later.</li>
<li>The effect of all of this was loss of economic potential, which we’re currently witnessing.</li>
<li>When the expectation was upgraded to 6%, it was mostly on the account of the global recovery.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="major-growth-sectors">Major Growth Sectors</h2>
<p><strong>Groong: @23:28</strong></p>
<p>What are the major factors for driving economic growth in the 2022 budget?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>Government anticipates that it&rsquo;s mostly going to be in the tradable sector.</p>
<ul>
<li>Industry: 8%</li>
<li>Agriculture: 5%</li>
</ul>
<p>Other sectors like construction and services are expected to perform well too but less than tradable sector growth.</p>
<p>Aramyan’s anticipation is that the mistake is around the structure of economic growth:</p>
<ul>
<li>Currently we have industry growth around 7% (mostly mining sector due to intl high prices of metal)</li>
<li>For the upcoming year we need to identify drivers for high growth in industry and Aramyan fails to see major factors that contribute to 8% in the industry sector.</li>
<li>If you look into investment structure, we don’t see much in terms of investment in industry and agriculture.</li>
<li>If you look into credit performance, there’s a cut in credit going to the industry sector.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong @25:36:</strong></p>
<p>Are prices for Copper/Aluminum extremely inflated? If so, will this also affect growth?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>There’s lots of liquidity leading to high prices. Prices may be adjusted downward but not in a significant way. However, the export tariffs introduced (very quickly) by the government create uncertainty in the industry. Vallex and other researchers presented research to government anticipating that the move would:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cut down net worth of society</li>
<li>Cut in net present value of taxes</li>
</ul>
<p>Govt. failed to take into account cost factors, such as gasoline/transportation, inflation of spare parts of diff. equipment. Also, there is no such experience in the world where you insert export control in order to generate extra cash (usually it is meant to have some economic change, such as protecting local producers).</p>
<p>Government must improve the predictability of their actions.</p>
<h2 id="inflation">Inflation</h2>
<p><strong>Groong @32:36:</strong></p>
<p>How much of the growth factors in the inflation that we’re currently seeing?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>The question needs to be rephrased because there’s some level of inflation that the central bank targets in order to not impede growth. We need to look at whether in the future this kind of inflation will anchor, and return to 4%.</p>
<ul>
<li>Currently inflation is quite high, around 9% for 12 months. We have a supply side inflation (we imported this inflation, even in the US it is 5-6%).</li>
<li>The problem is future inflation.</li>
<li>If inflationary tendencies are not curbed, we will have a problem with economic growth and loss of economic potential.</li>
<li>The question should be rephrased: “whether high inflation will harm future economic growth for 2022”. And there is a risk for that.</li>
<li>The CBA is doing what they have to and increased their interest rate by 300 basis points (3%), which will affect investment which is already problematic.</li>
<li>Problems:
<ul>
<li>1st channel: High borrowing</li>
<li>In the previous year the government absorbed around AMD 300B ($630M). For this year, there are plans for AMD 200B ($420M). For the upcoming year, they plan to absorb liquidity of around $500M.</li>
<li>If alongside this, the interest rates are increasing, it will have a crowding out effect on the economy.</li>
<li>2nd channel: Failure to anchor inflationary expectations in specific markets</li>
<li>Inflation is going to remain high if the CBA will fail to anchor inflationary expectations, because the government fails to support the central bank</li>
<li>When there is an inflationary shock in your economy, it not only concerns the central bank. Government must also support CB to absorb shocks.</li>
<li>The government must be very aggressive to deliver messages and set expectations. To what extend does the govt support the central bank?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Central bank is increasing the interest rate (which is the only tool at its disposal).</li>
<li>But the government has shortcomings in performance, such as:
<ul>
<li>They never explain why prices of gasoline are increasing at such a high pace. Compared to previous year we have a 60% increase in the gasoline price.</li>
<li>What will be the behavior of citizens?</li>
<li>Central bank has no mandate to explain the situation in a particular commodity market, but this creates expectations.</li>
<li>If I don’t get a message from the govt., whether this is subjective or objective, citizens may adjust their behavior/spending. The rational behavior then would be to purchase more than necessary in order to protect myself in the future, upfronting the consumption.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>In addition to the above, if banks feel some risks in the market, they’d rather give the liquidity back to the government rather than injecting in the economy (because the govt. bond interest rates will react to the central bank rates).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Groong @41:24:</strong></p>
<p>How will inflation affect increases in salaries, income inequality, poverty, and other socioeconomic markers?</p>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Salaries have increased 5-6% on an annual basis since 2018.</li>
<li>The mistake of the government was the dramatic increase of basic salaries, which has a negative effect on the cost curve of businesses. Care needs to be taken during such moves (paying attention to the basis of economic growth).</li>
<li>There’s an expectation that inflation will affect socially vulnerable people (whose salary is below the average).</li>
<li>Of course, the poverty rate will go up.</li>
<li>During these types of shocks, such outcomes are inevitable. The issue is not a 1yr increase in poverty rate or decrease in real wages. The problem is what will happen in the following years.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="unblocking-of-corridors">Unblocking of Corridors</h2>
<p><strong>Groong: @45:43</strong></p>
<p>Last month PM Pashinyan said that unblocking transportation and infrastructure links in the South Caucasus would provide a “qualitative boost” to the Armenian economy. The prime minister is essentially referring to the implementation of Point 9 of the November 2020 ceasefire agreement that ended the 44-day war.</p>
<ul>
<li>Should we be optimistic about these prospects?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<p>This is a very populistic declaration unless you demonstrate what the roads are going to be. Cost of transportation is measured by tonnage and total length of the road. For AZ, there will be a direct road between Azerbaijan and Nakhijevan/Turkey, which is plain to evaluate.</p>
<p>What is going to be the benefit for Armenia?</p>
<ul>
<li>To Russia/EAEU:
<ul>
<li>Our main market.</li>
<li>We already have one road going through Lars.</li>
<li>Having a second much longer road going through Baku to Russia doubles the road length and adds security concerns.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>To Iran:
<ul>
<li>We don’t need anyone else for roads to Iran.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>If markets to Turkey are opened, then there’s a risk of Turkey absorbing Armenia’s companies. (“Batumization”)</li>
<li>Turkish economy very diversified</li>
<li>Strong competitive Turkish businesses with lots of money</li>
<li>Limits political maneuvering (e.g., “Why Georgia can’t confront Turkey/Azerbaijan”?)</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="eu-26b-aid-package">EU $2.6B Aid Package</h2>
<p><strong>Groong: @50:27</strong></p>
<p>Let’s talk about the lofty $2.6B aid package allocated to Armenia by the EU over the past 5 years.</p>
<ul>
<li>Is this a grant, a loan, or is it a promise to insure or guarantee for the institutions who are willing to loan money to Armenia?</li>
<li>If all funding were to materialize, $2.6 Billion is a large amount of infusion into the Armenian economy over the coming decade. With so much money pumping into the economy, how can the government manage inflation, wage growth, wage price spirals, labor shortages, and so on?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>In short it’s early to say if this is a good deal for us.</li>
<li>No clarity on the amount of money that will be available in grants. Usually as a rule of thumb, it is 20-25 percent.</li>
<li>Even grants have conditions. Room to negotiate if you have skilled negotiators.</li>
<li>There may also be technical assistance which goes back to the EU as consulting money.</li>
<li>Even credit may have conditions attached.</li>
<li>If we manage to convince them to use the money in Syunik, the South, then it will be good.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="artsakh">Artsakh</h2>
<p><strong>Groong: @57:41</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Have you visited Artsakh recently?</li>
<li>What is the situation there for Vallex companies operating in Artsakh?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Vardan Aramyan:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Overall mood in Artsakh is not very favorable. A lot of uncertainty.</li>
<li>Not only Vallex, but all businesses in Artsakh are very cautious and sensitive to the political negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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* Azerbaijan Returns to the OSCE MG @29:49
* Municipal elections Over the Past Weekend @44:38
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* Border Politics @7:20
* Azerbaijan Returns to the OSCE MG @29:49
* Municipal elections Over the Past Weekend @44:38
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* Azerbaijan Returns to the OSCE MG @29:49
* Municipal elections Over the Past Weekend @44:38
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* Alison Tahmizian Meuse is a graduate of the George Washington University's Elliott School of International Affairs. She is a French and Arabic speaker, and a veteran Middle East journalist, having worked over the past decade as a producer, correspondent and editor for major international publications including Agence France-Presse, NPR, and the Asia Times. She currently serves as a strategic advisor for the New Delhi-based consultancy DeepStrat and is newly based in Yerevan.
Topics:
* The drive to cover dangerous conflicts @1:04
* Covering War and Peace in Armenia @8:57
* The value of Twitter @27:04
* Media and Internet Freedom in Armenia @40:56
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 100 | Recorded on Saturday, November 15, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211117.html</itunes:summary><description>Talking with Alison Tahmizian Meuse - TW/@AliTahmizian - November 17, 2021
* Alison Tahmizian Meuse is a graduate of the George Washington University's Elliott School of International Affairs. She is a French and Arabic speaker, and a veteran Middle East journalist, having worked over the past decade as a producer, correspondent and editor for major international publications including Agence France-Presse, NPR, and the Asia Times. She currently serves as a strategic advisor for the New Delhi-based consultancy DeepStrat and is newly based in Yerevan.
Topics:
* The drive to cover dangerous conflicts @1:04
* Covering War and Peace in Armenia @8:57
* The value of Twitter @27:04
* Media and Internet Freedom in Armenia @40:56
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 100 | Recorded on Saturday, November 15, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211117.html</description><googleplay:description>Talking with Alison Tahmizian Meuse - TW/@AliTahmizian - November 17, 2021
* Alison Tahmizian Meuse is a graduate of the George Washington University's Elliott School of International Affairs. She is a French and Arabic speaker, and a veteran Middle East journalist, having worked over the past decade as a producer, correspondent and editor for major international publications including Agence France-Presse, NPR, and the Asia Times. She currently serves as a strategic advisor for the New Delhi-based consultancy DeepStrat and is newly based in Yerevan.
Topics:
* The drive to cover dangerous conflicts @1:04
* Covering War and Peace in Armenia @8:57
* The value of Twitter @27:04
* Media and Internet Freedom in Armenia @40:56
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 100 | Recorded on Saturday, November 15, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211117.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9555197-talking-with-alison-tahmizian-meuse-ep-100-nov-17-2021.mp3" length="47374318" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:05:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>War in Artsakh, 1 Year On | Erika Olson visits Region | Internal developments | Ep #99 - Nov 7, 2021
[EP99]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/99-war-in-artsakh-one-year-on-erika-olson-visits-region-internal-political-developments-ep-99-nov-7-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9517635-war-in-artsakh-one-year-on-erika-olson-visits-region-internal-political-developments-ep-99-nov-7-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>99</itunes:episode><itunes:title>War in Artsakh, 1 Year On | Erika Olson visits Region | Internal developments | Ep #99 - Nov 7, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 7, 2021

Topics:
* The War in Artsakh, One Year Later
* Erika Olson visits the South Caucasus
* Internal political developments

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 7, 2021
Topics:
* The War in Artsakh, One Year Later
* Erika Olson visits the South Caucasus
* Internal political developments
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 99 | Recorded: Monday, November 8, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211107.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 7, 2021
Topics:
* The War in Artsakh, One Year Later
* Erika Olson visits the South Caucasus
* Internal political developments
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 99 | Recorded: Monday, November 8, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211107.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - November 7, 2021
Topics:
* The War in Artsakh, One Year Later
* Erika Olson visits the South Caucasus
* Internal political developments
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 99 | Recorded: Monday, November 8, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211107.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9517635-war-in-artsakh-one-year-on-erika-olson-visits-region-internal-political-developments-ep-99-nov-7-2021.mp3" length="39611073" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:54:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>State of Affairs in Lebanon &amp; the Armenians a Year After the Beirut Explosion | Ep #98 - Nov 8, 2021
[EP98]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/98-the-state-of-affairs-in-lebanon-the-armenian-community-a-year-after-the-beirut-blast-ep-98-nov-8-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 00:26:25 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9509962-the-state-of-affairs-in-lebanon-the-armenian-community-a-year-after-the-beirut-blast-ep-98-nov-8-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>98</itunes:episode><itunes:title>State of Affairs in Lebanon &amp; the Armenians a Year After the Beirut Explosion | Ep #98 - Nov 8, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The State of Affairs in Lebanon
A Conversation with Dr. Ohannes Geukjian and Vera Yacoubian

Topics:
* A year after the Beirut Explosion, what’s the state of investigations?
* Has Anyone been held Accountable?
* Who are the Internal and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The State of Affairs in Lebanon
A Conversation with Dr. Ohannes Geukjian and Vera Yacoubian
Topics:
* A year after the Beirut Explosion, what’s the state of investigations?
* Has Anyone been held Accountable?
* Who are the Internal and External Players in Lebanon?
* What’s the State and Future of the Armenian Community in Lebanon?
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Vera Yacoubian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Katia Peltekian TW/@KatiaPeltekian
Episode 98: Recorded on Saturday, November 6, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211108.html</itunes:summary><description>The State of Affairs in Lebanon
A Conversation with Dr. Ohannes Geukjian and Vera Yacoubian
Topics:
* A year after the Beirut Explosion, what’s the state of investigations?
* Has Anyone been held Accountable?
* Who are the Internal and External Players in Lebanon?
* What’s the State and Future of the Armenian Community in Lebanon?
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Vera Yacoubian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Katia Peltekian TW/@KatiaPeltekian
Episode 98: Recorded on Saturday, November 6, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211108.html</description><googleplay:description>The State of Affairs in Lebanon
A Conversation with Dr. Ohannes Geukjian and Vera Yacoubian
Topics:
* A year after the Beirut Explosion, what’s the state of investigations?
* Has Anyone been held Accountable?
* Who are the Internal and External Players in Lebanon?
* What’s the State and Future of the Armenian Community in Lebanon?
Guests:
* Dr. Ohannes Geukjian
* Vera Yacoubian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Katia Peltekian TW/@KatiaPeltekian
Episode 98: Recorded on Saturday, November 6, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211108.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9509962-the-state-of-affairs-in-lebanon-the-armenian-community-a-year-after-the-beirut-blast-ep-98-nov-8-2021.mp3" length="37591382" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Save Our Monuments | A Year After the War in Artsakh | AM/AZ Case at the ICJ | Ep #97 - Nov 3, 2021
[EP97]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/97-save-our-monuments-a-year-after-the-war-in-artsakh-the-case-at-the-icj-ep-97-nov-3-2021/</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 01:22:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9482000-save-our-monuments-a-year-after-the-war-in-artsakh-the-case-at-the-icj-ep-97-nov-3-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Simon Maghakyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>97</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Save Our Monuments | A Year After the War in Artsakh | AM/AZ Case at the ICJ | Ep #97 - Nov 3, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Save Armenian Monuments
A Conversation with Virginia Davies and Heghnar Watenpaugh

Topics:
* One year after the War in Artsakh, the State of Armenian Monuments in Lands turned over to Azerbaijan
* What is Save Armenian Monuments?
* The...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Save Armenian Monuments
A Conversation with Virginia Davies and Heghnar Watenpaugh
Topics:
* One year after the War in Artsakh, the State of Armenian Monuments in Lands turned over to Azerbaijan
* What is Save Armenian Monuments?
* The Significance of Pilgrimage and Holy Sites
* Armenia and Azerbaijan at the International Court of Justice: Is Intentional Cultural Destruction a form of Racial Discrimination?
* What Next Steps?
Guests:
* Virginia Davies TW/@vdaviesnyc
* Heghnar Watenpaugh TW/@HeghnarW
Host:
- Simon Maghakyan TW/@simonforco
Episode 97 | Recorded: November 2, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211103.html</itunes:summary><description>Save Armenian Monuments
A Conversation with Virginia Davies and Heghnar Watenpaugh
Topics:
* One year after the War in Artsakh, the State of Armenian Monuments in Lands turned over to Azerbaijan
* What is Save Armenian Monuments?
* The Significance of Pilgrimage and Holy Sites
* Armenia and Azerbaijan at the International Court of Justice: Is Intentional Cultural Destruction a form of Racial Discrimination?
* What Next Steps?
Guests:
* Virginia Davies TW/@vdaviesnyc
* Heghnar Watenpaugh TW/@HeghnarW
Host:
- Simon Maghakyan TW/@simonforco
Episode 97 | Recorded: November 2, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211103.html</description><googleplay:description>Save Armenian Monuments
A Conversation with Virginia Davies and Heghnar Watenpaugh
Topics:
* One year after the War in Artsakh, the State of Armenian Monuments in Lands turned over to Azerbaijan
* What is Save Armenian Monuments?
* The Significance of Pilgrimage and Holy Sites
* Armenia and Azerbaijan at the International Court of Justice: Is Intentional Cultural Destruction a form of Racial Discrimination?
* What Next Steps?
Guests:
* Virginia Davies TW/@vdaviesnyc
* Heghnar Watenpaugh TW/@HeghnarW
Host:
- Simon Maghakyan TW/@simonforco
Episode 97 | Recorded: November 2, 2021
Show notes: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20211103.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9482000-save-our-monuments-a-year-after-the-war-in-artsakh-the-case-at-the-icj-ep-97-nov-3-2021.mp3" length="26466329" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Georgian Runoffs | Turkish Drones in Donbas | Iran-Turkey | G20 Palooza | Ep #96 - Oct 31, 2021
[EP96]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/96-georgian-runoffs-turkish-drones-in-donbas-iran-turkey-g20-palooza-ep-96-oct-31-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 23:14:53 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9474939-georgian-runoffs-turkish-drones-in-donbas-iran-turkey-g20-palooza-ep-96-oct-31-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>96</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Georgian Runoffs | Turkish Drones in Donbas | Iran-Turkey | G20 Palooza | Ep #96 - Oct 31, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 31, 2021

Topics:
* Georgia’s Runoff Elections
* Turkish Drones in Donbas
* Iran-Turkey Tensions
* The G20 Palooza

Guests:
* Pietro Shakarian

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 31, 2021
Topics:
* Georgia’s Runoff Elections
* Turkish Drones in Donbas
* Iran-Turkey Tensions
* The G20 Palooza
Guests:
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 96 | Recorded: October 31, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211031.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 31, 2021
Topics:
* Georgia’s Runoff Elections
* Turkish Drones in Donbas
* Iran-Turkey Tensions
* The G20 Palooza
Guests:
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 96 | Recorded: October 31, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211031.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 31, 2021
Topics:
* Georgia’s Runoff Elections
* Turkish Drones in Donbas
* Iran-Turkey Tensions
* The G20 Palooza
Guests:
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 96 | Recorded: October 31, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211031.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9474939-georgian-runoffs-turkish-drones-in-donbas-iran-turkey-g20-palooza-ep-96-oct-31-2021.mp3" length="30942043" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>“Positive Messages” | Street Rallies | Election Setbacks | Siradeghyan Dies | Ep #94 - Oct 24, 2021
[EP94]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/94-positive-messages-back-to-street-rallies-local-election-setbacks-siradeghyan-dies-ep-94-oct-24-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9434655-positive-messages-back-to-street-rallies-local-election-setbacks-siradeghyan-dies-ep-94-oct-24-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>94</itunes:episode><itunes:title>“Positive Messages” | Street Rallies | Election Setbacks | Siradeghyan Dies | Ep #94 - Oct 24, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 24, 2021

Topics:
* Yerevan’s “Positive Messages”
* Opposition Going Back to Street Rallies?
* Ruling Party Setbacks in Local Elections
* Vano Siradeghyan Dies

Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 24, 2021
Topics:
* Yerevan’s “Positive Messages”
* Opposition Going Back to Street Rallies?
* Ruling Party Setbacks in Local Elections
* Vano Siradeghyan Dies
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 94 | Recorded: October 25, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211024.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 24, 2021
Topics:
* Yerevan’s “Positive Messages”
* Opposition Going Back to Street Rallies?
* Ruling Party Setbacks in Local Elections
* Vano Siradeghyan Dies
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 94 | Recorded: October 25, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211024.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 24, 2021
Topics:
* Yerevan’s “Positive Messages”
* Opposition Going Back to Street Rallies?
* Ruling Party Setbacks in Local Elections
* Vano Siradeghyan Dies
Guests:
* Tevan Poghosyan TW/@TevanPoghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 94 | Recorded: October 25, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211024.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9434655-positive-messages-back-to-street-rallies-local-election-setbacks-siradeghyan-dies-ep-94-oct-24-2021.mp3" length="37436540" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:51:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia’s Diplomacy and Corridors Politics | Ep. 93 - Oct 19, 2021
[EP93]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/93-armenia-s-diplomacy-and-regional-corridors-ep-93-oct-19-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2021 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9398648-armenia-s-diplomacy-and-regional-corridors-ep-93-oct-19-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>93</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia’s Diplomacy and Corridors Politics | Ep. 93 - Oct 19, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 10/19/2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenia’s Diplomacy and Corridor Politics
#### Topics:
* In the past month a flurry of diplomatic activity has risen around Armenia. The top diplomats from neighboring countries, regional and global powers have met with Armenia’s top leadership to discuss the shifting geopolitics reshaping the South Caucasus politically and economically for the coming decades. How is Armenia’s diplomacy navigating the “Corridor Politics” and what are the prospects for a peaceful neighborhood?
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 93 | Recorded: October 18, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Armenia’s Diplomacy and Corridor Politics
#### Topics:
* In the past month a flurry of diplomatic activity has risen around Armenia. The top diplomats from neighboring countries, regional and global powers have met with Armenia’s top leadership to discuss the shifting geopolitics reshaping the South Caucasus politically and economically for the coming decades. How is Armenia’s diplomacy navigating the “Corridor Politics” and what are the prospects for a peaceful neighborhood?
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 93 | Recorded: October 18, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Armenia’s Diplomacy and Corridor Politics
#### Topics:
* In the past month a flurry of diplomatic activity has risen around Armenia. The top diplomats from neighboring countries, regional and global powers have met with Armenia’s top leadership to discuss the shifting geopolitics reshaping the South Caucasus politically and economically for the coming decades. How is Armenia’s diplomacy navigating the “Corridor Politics” and what are the prospects for a peaceful neighborhood?
#### Guest:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
Episode 93 | Recorded: October 18, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="foreign-minister-of-india-visits-armenia">Foreign Minister of India Visits Armenia</h2>
<p>On Wednesday, October 12, India’s External Affairs Minister Subramanyam Jaishankar visited Armenia, where he met with PM Pashinyan, FM Mirzoyan and Parliament president Alen Simonyan. This was a first-ever high-level visit by an Indian minister to Armenia. Beyond Jaishankar’s visits to Tsitsernakaberd, and Cultural gestures and expressions, the diplomats discussed significant geopolitical projects involving Armenia in the International North-South Transport Corridor (INSTC) project from India, through Iran, Armenia, Georgia, and beyond.</p>
<p>The two countries have traditionally friendly ties. There are over 3,000 Indian students in Armenian universities, and Armenia supports India’s candidacy for permanent membership in the UNSC.</p>
<p>The timing of this visit and the fact that it is the first such visit in the history of independent Armenia, seems very conspicuous, coming right after the recent Iran-Azerbaijan tensions and in the midst of talk of “corridors” through Armenia. Was this meeting in response to regional geopolitical developments?</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>India’s geopolitical interests in Armenia are interesting and complex. Was this visit a success in cementing closer political and economic relations between the two countries?</li>
<li>What is Iran’s role and stake in this relationship? How is it promoting it?</li>
<li>Much is being said about Iran’s Chabahar port, on its coast on the Indian Ocean. What is the significance of this port in the North-South route?</li>
<li>How do Azerbaijan and Turkey look upon this relationship?</li>
<li>How does Russia feel about stronger Armenian relations with Iran and India specifically?
<ul>
<li>Looking at the chronology of events, the Pashinyan-Putin meeting was announced a day after the Indian announcement. Was the Armenian government’s PR commensurate with the level of importance shown by Jaishankar?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Does China view the INSTC - North-South Corridor, in light of its own Belt &amp; Road Initiative? Do these international projects compete, or do they complement each other?</li>
<li>Is Armenia more likely to benefit from these projects, or end up in the middle of yet another superpower proxy competition?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="corridors">Corridors</h2>
<p>We were talking with Pietro Shakarian and Benyamin Poghosyan a couple of weeks ago, and we touched upon the so-called “Zangezur Corridor” that Aliyev talks about all the time. The consensus was that, at least for the time being, Aliyev’s definition of a “corridor” is unfettered access through Armenian territory between Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan. This means visa-free, customs-free, inspection-free access for people and goods through Syunik, Gegharkunik, etc.</p>
<p>In exchange Armenia would get similar access to Russia and Iran through Azerbaijani territories. This of course is part of implementing Point 9 of the November Agreement.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are your thoughts about connecting Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan and on to Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="prospects-for-peace">Prospects for Peace</h2>
<p>Azerbaijan’s definition for peace begins with a process to determine and recognize its borders with Armenia, including an explicit recognition of Artsakh as Azerbaijani territory.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are Armenia’s prospects for peace with Azerbaijan? We’ll ask later about the prospects for war.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="pashinyans-government">Pashinyan’s Government</h2>
<p>The 44-day War in Artsakh left Armenia in a very weak negotiating position vis-à-vis Azerbaijan and as a result the November agreement committed Armenia to a number of very painful concessions and depending on how Armenia’s government conducts its negotiations and implements the requirements in the Agreement, there’s risk to the long term sovereignty of Armenia, especially given that Aliyev has proven to be negotiating not in good faith.</p>
<p>For example, Pashinyan’s immediate release of all Azeri prisoners before Aliyev reneged on his obligation, caused a year-long and continuing pain to thousands of families who lost their loved ones in the war. Meanwhile, Aliyev has forced Pashinyan into further concessions for the return of more POWs, which were not in the November Agreement. This, of course, has created a deep lack of trust towards the current Armenian government regardless of the June elections, and Pashinyan’s claims that the domestic situation has been resolved.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Does this government have the resources to negotiate for Armenia’s best interests? Economic, human, talent, diplomatic, military, and other resources.</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/93/thumbnail-93.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/93/thumbnail-93.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9398648-armenia-s-diplomacy-and-regional-corridors-ep-93-oct-19-2021.mp3" length="32547247" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:45:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Flurry of Diplomacy | Regional Results | Vaccine Update | Trust in Gov Info | Ep #92 - Oct 17, 2021
[EP92]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/92-flurry-of-diplomacy-results-from-regions-vaccination-update-trust-in-authorities-ep-92-oct-17-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2021 02:39:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9394229-flurry-of-diplomacy-results-from-regions-vaccination-update-trust-in-authorities-ep-92-oct-17-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>92</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Flurry of Diplomacy | Regional Results | Vaccine Update | Trust in Gov Info | Ep #92 - Oct 17, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 17, 2021

Topics:
* A Flurry of Diplomatic Activity
* Results from Tavush, Shirak and Syunik
* Vaccination in Armenia
* Trust in the Authorities about Information from Border Areas

Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 17, 2021
Topics:
* A Flurry of Diplomatic Activity
* Results from Tavush, Shirak and Syunik
* Vaccination in Armenia
* Trust in the Authorities about Information from Border Areas
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 92 | Recorded: October 18, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211017.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 17, 2021
Topics:
* A Flurry of Diplomatic Activity
* Results from Tavush, Shirak and Syunik
* Vaccination in Armenia
* Trust in the Authorities about Information from Border Areas
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 92 | Recorded: October 18, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211017.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 17, 2021
Topics:
* A Flurry of Diplomatic Activity
* Results from Tavush, Shirak and Syunik
* Vaccination in Armenia
* Trust in the Authorities about Information from Border Areas
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian TW/@hrant_m
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode 92 | Recorded: October 18, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211017.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9394229-flurry-of-diplomacy-results-from-regions-vaccination-update-trust-in-authorities-ep-92-oct-17-2021.mp3" length="32838250" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:45:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Saakashvili in Georgia | Putin Erdogan in Sochi | OSCE MG in NK | Tonoyan in Jail | Ep 91 Oct 3 2021
[EP91]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/91-saakashvili-in-georgia-putin-erdogan-in-sochi-osce-mg-in-artsakh-tonoyan-in-jail-hovik-in-stepanakert-ep-91-oct-3-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2021 01:31:25 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9305874-saakashvili-in-georgia-putin-erdogan-in-sochi-osce-mg-in-artsakh-tonoyan-in-jail-hovik-in-stepanakert-ep-91-oct-3-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>91</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Saakashvili in Georgia | Putin Erdogan in Sochi | OSCE MG in NK | Tonoyan in Jail | Ep 91 Oct 3 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 3, 2021

Topics:
* Saakashvili Back in Georgia
* Putin, Erdogan, in Sochi
* OSCE Minsk Group in Artsakh?
* Tonoyan, Galstyan in Jail
* Hovik in Stepanakert

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 3, 2021
Topics:
* Saakashvili Back in Georgia
* Putin, Erdogan, in Sochi
* OSCE Minsk Group in Artsakh?
* Tonoyan, Galstyan in Jail
* Hovik in Stepanakert
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 91 | Recorded: October 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211003.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 3, 2021
Topics:
* Saakashvili Back in Georgia
* Putin, Erdogan, in Sochi
* OSCE Minsk Group in Artsakh?
* Tonoyan, Galstyan in Jail
* Hovik in Stepanakert
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 91 | Recorded: October 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211003.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 3, 2021
Topics:
* Saakashvili Back in Georgia
* Putin, Erdogan, in Sochi
* OSCE Minsk Group in Artsakh?
* Tonoyan, Galstyan in Jail
* Hovik in Stepanakert
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan TW/@benyamin_poghos
* Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
* Hovik Manucharyan TW/@HovikYerevan
Episode 91 | Recorded: October 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20211003.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9305874-saakashvili-in-georgia-putin-erdogan-in-sochi-osce-mg-in-artsakh-tonoyan-in-jail-hovik-in-stepanakert-ep-91-oct-3-2021.mp3" length="52487813" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:12:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>One-year anniversary of Artsakh War | Can the Opposition Reorg | TARC 2.0 | Ep 90 - Sep 26, 2021
[EP90]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/90-tevan-poghosyan-one-year-after-can-opposition-reorg-turkish-armenian-normalization/</link><pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 04:00:12 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9272376-one-year-anniversary-of-artsakh-war-can-the-opp-reorg-tarc-2-0-ep-90-september-26-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>90</itunes:episode><itunes:title>One-year anniversary of Artsakh War | Can the Opposition Reorg | TARC 2.0 | Ep 90 - Sep 26, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN Groong Week in Review - 09/26/2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
#### Topic:
* The One-year anniversary of The War in Artsakh
* Can the Opposition Reorganize?
* Turkish-Armenian Possible Rapprochement
Episode 90 | Recorded: September 27, 2021</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
#### Topic:
* The One-year anniversary of The War in Artsakh
* Can the Opposition Reorganize?
* Turkish-Armenian Possible Rapprochement
Episode 90 | Recorded: September 27, 2021</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guest:
* [Tevan Poghosyan](/guest/tpoghosyan), is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
#### Topic:
* The One-year anniversary of The War in Artsakh
* Can the Opposition Reorganize?
* Turkish-Armenian Possible Rapprochement
Episode 90 | Recorded: September 27, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<h2 id="the-one-year-anniversary-of-the-war">The One Year Anniversary of The War</h2>
<ul>
<li>Lead-up to the war? When did Armenia know for sure?</li>
<li>How did the war start? What do we know about the first moments of the war?</li>
<li>When was it possible for Pashinyan to stop the war?</li>
<li>Aliyev and Pashinyan’s addresses to the UNGA during this past week.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="can-the-opposition-reorganize">Can the Opposition Reorganize?</h2>
<p>Opposition held a candle-lit march to Yerablur. While the march was silent and not too political, many believe this will mark the restart of the street struggle by the opposition. Does the opposition have a chance to re-invigorate its struggle against the government, combining pressure on the street?</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the opposition doing right and what is it doing wrong?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="turkish-armenian-rapprochement">Turkish-Armenian Rapprochement</h2>
<p>Mane Gevorgyan said that Armenia is ready to begin high profile discussions with Turkey.</p>
<ul>
<li>Erdogan and Pashinyan’s speeches in UNGA
<ul>
<li>Armenia did not condemn Turkey’s involvement in Artsakh war, but Cyprus did.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Is the issue of Artsakh still the “elephant in the room” in Armenian-Turkish relations?</li>
<li>Erdogan meeting with Putin next week</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9272376-one-year-anniversary-of-artsakh-war-can-the-opp-reorg-tarc-2-0-ep-90-september-26-2021.mp3" length="35508981" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>2955</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Independence Day | Pashinyan's Turkish Overtures | Goris-Kapan Highway | Ep #89 - Sep 19, 2021
[EP89]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/89-independence-day-pashinyan-s-turkish-overtures-goris-kapan-highway-ep-89-sep-19-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 14:34:42 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9234801-independence-day-pashinyan-s-turkish-overtures-goris-kapan-highway-ep-89-sep-19-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>89</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Independence Day | Pashinyan's Turkish Overtures | Goris-Kapan Highway | Ep #89 - Sep 19, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 19, 2021

Topics:

- Independence Day
- Pashinyan’s Turkish overtures
- Goris-Kapan highway

Guests:
- Dr. Pietro Shakarian

Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan

Episode #89 | Recorded: September 20, 2021
Website:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 19, 2021
Topics:
- Independence Day
- Pashinyan’s Turkish overtures
- Goris-Kapan highway
Guests:
- Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode #89 | Recorded: September 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210919.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 19, 2021
Topics:
- Independence Day
- Pashinyan’s Turkish overtures
- Goris-Kapan highway
Guests:
- Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode #89 | Recorded: September 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210919.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 19, 2021
Topics:
- Independence Day
- Pashinyan’s Turkish overtures
- Goris-Kapan highway
Guests:
- Dr. Pietro Shakarian
Host:
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode #89 | Recorded: September 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210919.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9234801-independence-day-pashinyan-s-turkish-overtures-goris-kapan-highway-ep-89-sep-19-2021.mp3" length="23864180" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:33:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pashinyan Shuns NK | TARC 2.0 | Taliban 2.0 | World Affairs &amp; Pol Analysis | Ep #88 - Sep 5, 2021
[EP88]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/88-pashinyan-shuns-nk-reconciliation-2-0-taliban-2-0-state-of-world-affairs-political-analysis-ep-88-sep-5-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2021 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9146182-pashinyan-shuns-nk-reconciliation-2-0-taliban-2-0-state-of-world-affairs-political-analysis-ep-88-sep-5-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>88</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan Shuns NK | TARC 2.0 | Taliban 2.0 | World Affairs &amp; Pol Analysis | Ep #88 - Sep 5, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 5, 2021

Topics:
* Pashinyan &amp; Co. Shun Artsakh Independence
* Turkey-Armenia Reconciliation Reconstituted?
* Afghanistan: Taliban 2.0?
* State of World Affairs
* State of Political Analysis

Guests:
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 5, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan & Co. Shun Artsakh Independence
* Turkey-Armenia Reconciliation Reconstituted?
* Afghanistan: Taliban 2.0?
* State of World Affairs
* State of Political Analysis
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian TW/@AsbedK
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode #88 | Recorded: September 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210905.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 5, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan & Co. Shun Artsakh Independence
* Turkey-Armenia Reconciliation Reconstituted?
* Afghanistan: Taliban 2.0?
* State of World Affairs
* State of Political Analysis
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian TW/@AsbedK
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode #88 | Recorded: September 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210905.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - September 5, 2021
Topics:
* Pashinyan & Co. Shun Artsakh Independence
* Turkey-Armenia Reconciliation Reconstituted?
* Afghanistan: Taliban 2.0?
* State of World Affairs
* State of Political Analysis
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian TW/@AsbedK
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian TW/@qubriq
Episode #88 | Recorded: September 3, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210905.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9146182-pashinyan-shuns-nk-reconciliation-2-0-taliban-2-0-state-of-world-affairs-political-analysis-ep-88-sep-5-2021.mp3" length="28371021" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Syunik Blocked and Unblocked | 5-Year Plan Approved | Parliamentary Dynamics | Ep #87 - Aug 29, 2021
[EP87]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/87-syunik-blocked-and-unblocked-5-year-plan-approved-parliamentary-dynamics-ep-87-august-29-2021/</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:37:42 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9108070-syunik-blocked-and-unblocked-5-year-plan-approved-parliamentary-dynamics-ep-87-august-29-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Syunik Blocked and Unblocked | 5-Year Plan Approved | Parliamentary Dynamics | Ep #87 - Aug 29, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2021

Topics:
* Road to Syunik Blocked and Unblocked
* 5-Year Plan Approved
* Parliamentary Dynamics

Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan / TW @Benyamin_Poghos

Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian / TW @qubriq


Episode...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2021
Topics:
* Road to Syunik Blocked and Unblocked
* 5-Year Plan Approved
* Parliamentary Dynamics
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan / TW @Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian / TW @qubriq
Episode 87 | Recorded: August 29, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210829.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2021
Topics:
* Road to Syunik Blocked and Unblocked
* 5-Year Plan Approved
* Parliamentary Dynamics
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan / TW @Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian / TW @qubriq
Episode 87 | Recorded: August 29, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210829.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 29, 2021
Topics:
* Road to Syunik Blocked and Unblocked
* 5-Year Plan Approved
* Parliamentary Dynamics
Guests:
* Benyamin Poghosyan / TW @Benyamin_Poghos
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian / TW @qubriq
Episode 87 | Recorded: August 29, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210829.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9108070-syunik-blocked-and-unblocked-5-year-plan-approved-parliamentary-dynamics-ep-87-august-29-2021.mp3" length="29533955" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:40:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>5-year plan | Russia Arming Armenia | Press Freedoms Cut | PaneliTopics | Ep #86 - August 22, 2021
[EP86]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/86-5-year-plan-russia-rearming-armenia-press-freedoms-curtailed-panelist-topics-ep-86-august-22-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:46:09 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9074863-5-year-plan-russia-rearming-armenia-press-freedoms-curtailed-panelist-topics-ep-86-august-22-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>86</itunes:episode><itunes:title>5-year plan | Russia Arming Armenia | Press Freedoms Cut | PaneliTopics | Ep #86 - August 22, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 22, 2021

Topics:
* The Government’s 5-Year Plan
* Is Russia Rearming Armenia? Artsakh?
* Press Freedoms Curtailed in Parliament
* Topics from the Panelists

Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hrant Mikaelian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 22, 2021
Topics:
* The Government’s 5-Year Plan
* Is Russia Rearming Armenia? Artsakh?
* Press Freedoms Curtailed in Parliament
* Topics from the Panelists
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 86 | Recorded: August 22, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210822.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 22, 2021
Topics:
* The Government’s 5-Year Plan
* Is Russia Rearming Armenia? Artsakh?
* Press Freedoms Curtailed in Parliament
* Topics from the Panelists
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 86 | Recorded: August 22, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210822.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 22, 2021
Topics:
* The Government’s 5-Year Plan
* Is Russia Rearming Armenia? Artsakh?
* Press Freedoms Curtailed in Parliament
* Topics from the Panelists
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 86 | Recorded: August 22, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210822.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9074863-5-year-plan-russia-rearming-armenia-press-freedoms-curtailed-panelist-topics-ep-86-august-22-2021.mp3" length="33599359" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:46:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Lebanon | Afghanistan | Armenian Parliament | Artsakh | Ep #85 - Aug 15, 2021
[EP85]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/85-lebanon-afghanistan-armenian-parliament-artsakh-ep-85-aug-15-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2021 08:52:20 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9043256-lebanon-afghanistan-armenian-parliament-artsakh-ep-85-aug-15-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>85</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Lebanon | Afghanistan | Armenian Parliament | Artsakh | Ep #85 - Aug 15, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 15, 2021

Topics:

- Lebanon in Crisis
- Taliban Takes Over Afghanistan
- 8th Convocation of the Parliament
- Developments around Artsakh

Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian - https://twitter.com/AsbedK
- Katia...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 15, 2021
Topics:
- Lebanon in Crisis
- Taliban Takes Over Afghanistan
- 8th Convocation of the Parliament
- Developments around Artsakh
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian - https://twitter.com/AsbedK
- Katia Peltekian - https://twitter.com/KatiaPeltekian
- Benyamin Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/BeniaminPoghosyan
Asbed Kotchikian is an Associate Professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia.
Benyamin Poghosyan is the chairman of the Center For Political and Economic Strategic Studies, a Yerevan based think tank. He was deputy director of the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the Ministry of Defense in 2010-2016 and the Vice President for Research, at the National Defense Research University from 2016 to 2019.
Katia Peltekian has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan - twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210815.html
Episode 85 | Recorded: August 16, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 15, 2021
Topics:
- Lebanon in Crisis
- Taliban Takes Over Afghanistan
- 8th Convocation of the Parliament
- Developments around Artsakh
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian - https://twitter.com/AsbedK
- Katia Peltekian - https://twitter.com/KatiaPeltekian
- Benyamin Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/BeniaminPoghosyan
Asbed Kotchikian is an Associate Professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia.
Benyamin Poghosyan is the chairman of the Center For Political and Economic Strategic Studies, a Yerevan based think tank. He was deputy director of the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the Ministry of Defense in 2010-2016 and the Vice President for Research, at the National Defense Research University from 2016 to 2019.
Katia Peltekian has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan - twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210815.html
Episode 85 | Recorded: August 16, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 15, 2021
Topics:
- Lebanon in Crisis
- Taliban Takes Over Afghanistan
- 8th Convocation of the Parliament
- Developments around Artsakh
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian - https://twitter.com/AsbedK
- Katia Peltekian - https://twitter.com/KatiaPeltekian
- Benyamin Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/BeniaminPoghosyan
Asbed Kotchikian is an Associate Professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia.
Benyamin Poghosyan is the chairman of the Center For Political and Economic Strategic Studies, a Yerevan based think tank. He was deputy director of the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the Ministry of Defense in 2010-2016 and the Vice President for Research, at the National Defense Research University from 2016 to 2019.
Katia Peltekian has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan - twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210815.html
Episode 85 | Recorded: August 16, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/9043256-lebanon-afghanistan-armenian-parliament-artsakh-ep-85-aug-15-2021.mp3" length="46414507" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:04:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Instability on Am-Az Borders | Commission on War | 1st Sess of New Parliament | Ep #84 - Aug 1, 2021
[EP84]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/84-instability-on-armenia-azerbaijan-borders-commission-on-44-daywar-first-session-of-the-8th-parliament-ep-84-aug-1-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2021 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8965910-instability-on-armenia-azerbaijan-borders-commission-on-44-daywar-first-session-of-the-8th-parliament-ep-84-aug-1-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>84</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Instability on Am-Az Borders | Commission on War | 1st Sess of New Parliament | Ep #84 - Aug 1, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 1, 2021

Topics:
* Continued Instability along Armenia-Azerbaijan Borders
* National Assembly Commission on the 44-Day War
* First Session of the 8th Session of the Armenian Parliament

Guests:
* Asbed...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 1, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Instability along Armenia-Azerbaijan Borders
* National Assembly Commission on the 44-Day War
* First Session of the 8th Session of the Armenian Parliament
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 84 | Recorded: August 2, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210801.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 1, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Instability along Armenia-Azerbaijan Borders
* National Assembly Commission on the 44-Day War
* First Session of the 8th Session of the Armenian Parliament
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 84 | Recorded: August 2, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210801.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - August 1, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Instability along Armenia-Azerbaijan Borders
* National Assembly Commission on the 44-Day War
* First Session of the 8th Session of the Armenian Parliament
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Benyamin Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 84 | Recorded: August 2, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210801.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8965910-instability-on-armenia-azerbaijan-borders-commission-on-44-daywar-first-session-of-the-8th-parliament-ep-84-aug-1-2021.mp3" length="39718941" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War | Ep. #82 - July 31, 2021
[EP82]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/82-calls-for-a-commission-to-analyze-the-defeat-in-the-2020-artsakh-war-ep-82-july-31-2021/</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2021 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8952307-calls-for-a-commission-to-analyze-the-defeat-in-the-2020-artsakh-war-ep-82-july-31-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>82</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War | Ep. #82 - July 31, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War

A Conversation with Dr. Simon Saradzhyan, Arthur G. Martirosyan, and Tevan Poghosyan

The disastrous outcome of the 2020 War in Artsakh has left Armenians in Armenia and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War
A Conversation with Dr. Simon Saradzhyan, Arthur G. Martirosyan, and Tevan Poghosyan
The disastrous outcome of the 2020 War in Artsakh has left Armenians in Armenia and around the world with many unanswered questions. Many long-time held beliefs about the capability of Armenia to defend Artsakh, and Armenia itself, were shattered on November 9, with the signing of the trilateral ceasefire statement.
A group of more than 10 academics and researchers recently published a lengthy set of questions that are proposed as a basis for a fact-finding commission to investigate the causes and results of the war. The document can be found on the web at https://armeniacommission.org
Guests
- Dr. Simon Saradzhyan - https://twitter.com/saradzhyan
- Arthur G. Martirosyan - https://twitter.com/ArtMart96
- Tevan Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/TevanPoghosyan
Dr. Simon Saradzhyan is the founding director of the Russia Matters Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and also helps advance the center’s U.S.-Russia Initiative to Prevent Nuclear Terrorism. His research interests include national power, military interventions, arms control, counterterrorism, and the foreign, defense, and security policies of Russia and other post-Soviet states and their relations with great powers. Prior to joining Harvard, Dr. Saradzhyan worked as a researcher, consultant, and journalist in Russia for 15 years, including as an editor of The Moscow Times.
Arthur G. Martirosyan is a Senior Consultant with CM Partners. In 1994, after graduating from Yale University, he joined Conflict Management Group and Harvard Negotiation Project, and has since worked on conflicts in the former Soviet Union, Middle East, the Balkans, Africa and Latin America.
Tevan Poghosyan is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 82 | Recorded: July 30, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210731.html</itunes:summary><description>Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War
A Conversation with Dr. Simon Saradzhyan, Arthur G. Martirosyan, and Tevan Poghosyan
The disastrous outcome of the 2020 War in Artsakh has left Armenians in Armenia and around the world with many unanswered questions. Many long-time held beliefs about the capability of Armenia to defend Artsakh, and Armenia itself, were shattered on November 9, with the signing of the trilateral ceasefire statement.
A group of more than 10 academics and researchers recently published a lengthy set of questions that are proposed as a basis for a fact-finding commission to investigate the causes and results of the war. The document can be found on the web at https://armeniacommission.org
Guests
- Dr. Simon Saradzhyan - https://twitter.com/saradzhyan
- Arthur G. Martirosyan - https://twitter.com/ArtMart96
- Tevan Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/TevanPoghosyan
Dr. Simon Saradzhyan is the founding director of the Russia Matters Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and also helps advance the center’s U.S.-Russia Initiative to Prevent Nuclear Terrorism. His research interests include national power, military interventions, arms control, counterterrorism, and the foreign, defense, and security policies of Russia and other post-Soviet states and their relations with great powers. Prior to joining Harvard, Dr. Saradzhyan worked as a researcher, consultant, and journalist in Russia for 15 years, including as an editor of The Moscow Times.
Arthur G. Martirosyan is a Senior Consultant with CM Partners. In 1994, after graduating from Yale University, he joined Conflict Management Group and Harvard Negotiation Project, and has since worked on conflicts in the former Soviet Union, Middle East, the Balkans, Africa and Latin America.
Tevan Poghosyan is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 82 | Recorded: July 30, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210731.html</description><googleplay:description>Calls for a Commission to Analyze the Defeat in the 2020 Artsakh War
A Conversation with Dr. Simon Saradzhyan, Arthur G. Martirosyan, and Tevan Poghosyan
The disastrous outcome of the 2020 War in Artsakh has left Armenians in Armenia and around the world with many unanswered questions. Many long-time held beliefs about the capability of Armenia to defend Artsakh, and Armenia itself, were shattered on November 9, with the signing of the trilateral ceasefire statement.
A group of more than 10 academics and researchers recently published a lengthy set of questions that are proposed as a basis for a fact-finding commission to investigate the causes and results of the war. The document can be found on the web at https://armeniacommission.org
Guests
- Dr. Simon Saradzhyan - https://twitter.com/saradzhyan
- Arthur G. Martirosyan - https://twitter.com/ArtMart96
- Tevan Poghosyan - https://twitter.com/TevanPoghosyan
Dr. Simon Saradzhyan is the founding director of the Russia Matters Project at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and also helps advance the center’s U.S.-Russia Initiative to Prevent Nuclear Terrorism. His research interests include national power, military interventions, arms control, counterterrorism, and the foreign, defense, and security policies of Russia and other post-Soviet states and their relations with great powers. Prior to joining Harvard, Dr. Saradzhyan worked as a researcher, consultant, and journalist in Russia for 15 years, including as an editor of The Moscow Times.
Arthur G. Martirosyan is a Senior Consultant with CM Partners. In 1994, after graduating from Yale University, he joined Conflict Management Group and Harvard Negotiation Project, and has since worked on conflicts in the former Soviet Union, Middle East, the Balkans, Africa and Latin America.
Tevan Poghosyan is president of the International Center for Human Development in Yerevan. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP in the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. From 1997 to 1999 he served as the Nagorno-Karabakh Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 82 | Recorded: July 30, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210731.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8952307-calls-for-a-commission-to-analyze-the-defeat-in-the-2020-artsakh-war-ep-82-july-31-2021.mp3" length="45571933" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:03:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Escalation in Yeraskh | Gunpoint Diplomacy | Emigration | Guest Trip Report | Ep. 81 - July 25, 2021
[EP81]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/81-escalation-in-yeraskh-gunpoint-diplomacy-armenian-emigration-guests-trip-report-ep-81-july-25-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2021 12:03:28 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8932991-escalation-in-yeraskh-gunpoint-diplomacy-armenian-emigration-guests-trip-report-ep-81-july-25-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>81</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Escalation in Yeraskh | Gunpoint Diplomacy | Emigration | Guest Trip Report | Ep. 81 - July 25, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 07/25/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 25, 2021
#### Topics:
* Escalation in Yeraskh
* “Peace Treaty” at Gunpoint
* Emigration out of Armenia
* Trip Report from Our Guests
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
Episode 81 | Recorded: July 26, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 25, 2021
#### Topics:
* Escalation in Yeraskh
* “Peace Treaty” at Gunpoint
* Emigration out of Armenia
* Trip Report from Our Guests
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
Episode 81 | Recorded: July 26, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 25, 2021
#### Topics:
* Escalation in Yeraskh
* “Peace Treaty” at Gunpoint
* Emigration out of Armenia
* Trip Report from Our Guests
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Hrant Mikaelian](/guest/hmikaelian)
Episode 81 | Recorded: July 26, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="escalation-in-yeraskh">Escalation in Yeraskh</h2>
<p>Last week when the border instability around Yeraskh started and were heating up, Aliyev went to Moscow for a one on one meeting with Putin. The message that we read right before, during and after that meeting from the three OSCE Minsk group co-chairs was that “a lasting and comprehensive” peace needs to be hammered out. Aliyev returned to Baku and said that he had already solved the Artsakh issue, that other paths to peace would be “wrong and risky”. The news reported that Putin had told Aliyev to seek a compromise solution. Pashinyan has rejected that the Artsakh issue is resolved.</p>
<p>A quick note: the border shootings stopped soon after Aliyev’s trip to Moscow.</p>
<p>It appears that the west, the US and the EU, were waiting to see the outcome of Armenia’s June election results, because since then their diplomacy has activated. The European Commission has not pledged somewhere between 1.6 and 3.1 Billion Euros for Armenia in the coming 5 years. The US and the EU - particularly France, have pledged to find a lasting and sustainable peace in the region. Frankly, Russia is a bit of an odd man out right now.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Have the Russians been caught off-guard and a little weak at present in the South Caucasus?</li>
<li>What are the calculations that are leading the West to bet on Armenia, and enabling additional communications paths to those mentioned in the November Agreement?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="peace-treaty-at-gunpoint">“Peace Treaty” at Gunpoint</h2>
<p>The Armenia-Azerbaijan narrative has shifted from the Armenian POWs to the roaming border instabilities, most recently the shelling around the village of Yeraskh, just north of the Nakhijevan border, 68 km south of Yerevan.</p>
<p>This seems to be Azerbaijan’s strategy to keep Armenia under state-sponsored terror on the borders and keep the fear of the war restarting alive, in order to force Armenia into a peace treaty at gunpoint.</p>
<p>But as we discussed above, regional diplomacy is aligning against a premature so-called “peace treaty” that forces countries into winner and loser slots, and specifically, pre-determine the status of Artsakh.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What are Aliyev’s options?</li>
<li>Is Ankara fully aligned with Azerbaijan on this?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="emigration-out-of-armenia">Emigration out of Armenia</h2>
<p>In a recent interview our guest today, Hrant said:</p>
<p>There are most probably 1,800,000-1,900,000 Armenians living in Russia. This is what political scientist Hrant Mikayelyan said in an interview with Armenian News-NEWS.am.</p>
<p>Moreover, according to him, based on the data of the 2010 census, there were 1,182,000 Armenians living in Russia.</p>
<p>“In addition, 600-650,000 of them are citizens of Armenia. At the same time, during this period, tens of thousands of Armenians have acquired Russian citizenship. So, it’s safe to say that there are almost 2,000,000 Armenians living in Russia,” Mikaelian clarified, noting that, according to the accepted evaluation, there are more Armenians living in Russia than in Armenia, even though this isn’t the case.</p>
<p>The political scientist went on to say that 138,000 people have left Armenia in the first half of this year and that this is a rather serious figure for the country.</p>
<p>“This is a rather serious indicator for Armenia. Out of those people, 80,000 will most probably never return to Armenia. This is an extremely large indicator for six months,” Mikaelian said.</p>
<p>According to the political scientist, most of the citizens who left Armenia have gone to Russia since the easiest route to take is the route to Russia during the coronavirus pandemic. “However, it should be mentioned that the Armenians don’t have a major position in Russia due to the decline in the level of relations between Russia and Armenia. There are simply Armenians who don’t want to see this,” Mikaelian said, adding that the reputation of Armenians and Armenia has seriously decreased in not only Russia, but also other parts of the world due to the defeat in the recent war.</p>
<h2 id="trip-report---hrant-and-varuzhans-trip-to-russia">Trip Report - Hrant and Varuzhan’s Trip to Russia</h2>
<p>Varuzhan and Hrant discuss their recent trip through Russia, visiting many major cities, and meeting Armenian community leaders. They also held meetings with Russia’s political analyst and academic community.</p>
<p>Hrant shares his impressions of his recent visit through Artsakh.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/81/thumbnail-81.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/81/thumbnail-81.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8932991-escalation-in-yeraskh-gunpoint-diplomacy-armenian-emigration-guests-trip-report-ep-81-july-25-2021.mp3" length="37766302" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace | Ep #80 - July 22, 2021
[EP80]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/80-armenian-foreign-policy-between-war-and-peace-ep-80-july-22-2021/</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2021 01:29:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8904370-armenian-foreign-policy-between-war-and-peace-ep-80-july-22-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace | Ep #80 - July 22, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace
A Conversation with Dr. Pietro Shakarian and Yeghia Tashjian


Topics:
* Sparring Partners: Moscow and Ankara
* Yerevan’s Diplomatic Dilemmas
* Aliyev’s Appetite and Ambitions


Guests
* Dr. Pietro...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace
A Conversation with Dr. Pietro Shakarian and Yeghia Tashjian
Topics:
* Sparring Partners: Moscow and Ankara
* Yerevan’s Diplomatic Dilemmas
* Aliyev’s Appetite and Ambitions
Guests
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 80 | Recorded: July 21, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210722.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace
A Conversation with Dr. Pietro Shakarian and Yeghia Tashjian
Topics:
* Sparring Partners: Moscow and Ankara
* Yerevan’s Diplomatic Dilemmas
* Aliyev’s Appetite and Ambitions
Guests
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 80 | Recorded: July 21, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210722.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenian Foreign policy Between War and Peace
A Conversation with Dr. Pietro Shakarian and Yeghia Tashjian
Topics:
* Sparring Partners: Moscow and Ankara
* Yerevan’s Diplomatic Dilemmas
* Aliyev’s Appetite and Ambitions
Guests
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian
* Yeghia Tashjian
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 80 | Recorded: July 21, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210722.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8904370-armenian-foreign-policy-between-war-and-peace-ep-80-july-22-2021.mp3" length="38086865" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Const Court Decision | PM Appts | Aliyev Threats | Russian Gens in Yerevan | Ep #79 - July 18, 2021
[EP79]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/79-suren-sargsyan-const-court-decision-new-pm-appts-aliyev-threats-russian-generals-in-yerevan-ep-78-july-18-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2021 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8897075-const-court-decision-new-pm-appts-aliyev-threats-russian-generals-in-yerevan-ep-78-july-18-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>79</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Const Court Decision | PM Appts | Aliyev Threats | Russian Gens in Yerevan | Ep #79 - July 18, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 18, 2021

Topics:
* Constitutional Court Decisions on Election Results
* New Pashinyan Appointments
* More Threats from Azerbaijan
* Russian Generals in Yerevan Again

Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan

Hosts:
* Hovik...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 18, 2021
Topics:
* Constitutional Court Decisions on Election Results
* New Pashinyan Appointments
* More Threats from Azerbaijan
* Russian Generals in Yerevan Again
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 79 | Recorded: July 19, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210718.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 18, 2021
Topics:
* Constitutional Court Decisions on Election Results
* New Pashinyan Appointments
* More Threats from Azerbaijan
* Russian Generals in Yerevan Again
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 79 | Recorded: July 19, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210718.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 18, 2021
Topics:
* Constitutional Court Decisions on Election Results
* New Pashinyan Appointments
* More Threats from Azerbaijan
* Russian Generals in Yerevan Again
Guests:
* Suren Sargsyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 79 | Recorded: July 19, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210718.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8897075-const-court-decision-new-pm-appts-aliyev-threats-russian-generals-in-yerevan-ep-78-july-18-2021.mp3" length="29599164" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Putin / Pashinyan | Const. Court | Steel out of Velvet | Year-in-Review (Ep #78) - July 11, 2021
[EP78]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/78-asbed-kotchikian-putin-pashinyan-constitutional-court-steel-out-of-velvet-podcast-s-year-in-review-ep-78-july-11-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8855705-putin-pashinyan-constitutional-court-steel-out-of-velvet-podcast-s-year-in-review-ep-78-july-11-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>78</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Putin / Pashinyan | Const. Court | Steel out of Velvet | Year-in-Review (Ep #78) - July 11, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 11, 2021

Topics:
  - Putin / Pashinyan meeting
  - Constitutional Court Challenge
  - Forging Steel out of Velvet
  - Groong Podcast’s Year-in-Review

Guests: Asbed Kotchikian

Hosts:
  - Hovik Manucharyan
  -...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 11, 2021
Topics:
- Putin / Pashinyan meeting
- Constitutional Court Challenge
- Forging Steel out of Velvet
- Groong Podcast’s Year-in-Review
Guests: Asbed Kotchikian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210711.html
Episode 78 | Recorded: July 11, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 11, 2021
Topics:
- Putin / Pashinyan meeting
- Constitutional Court Challenge
- Forging Steel out of Velvet
- Groong Podcast’s Year-in-Review
Guests: Asbed Kotchikian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210711.html
Episode 78 | Recorded: July 11, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - July 11, 2021
Topics:
- Putin / Pashinyan meeting
- Constitutional Court Challenge
- Forging Steel out of Velvet
- Groong Podcast’s Year-in-Review
Guests: Asbed Kotchikian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210711.html
Episode 78 | Recorded: July 11, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8855705-putin-pashinyan-constitutional-court-steel-out-of-velvet-podcast-s-year-in-review-ep-78-july-11-2021.mp3" length="43538499" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:00:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Preserving Armenian Heritage - Maghakyan, Khatchadourian, Maranci | Ep #77 - June 30, 2021
[EP77]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/77-preserving-armenian-heritage-simon-maghakyan-talks-with-lori-khatchadourian-and-christina-maranci-ep-77-june-30-2021/</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:13:46 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8788049-preserving-armenian-heritage-simon-maghakyan-talks-with-lori-khatchadourian-and-christina-maranci-ep-77-june-30-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Simon Maghakyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>77</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Preserving Armenian Heritage - Maghakyan, Khatchadourian, Maranci | Ep #77 - June 30, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Preserving Armenian Heritage

Topics:
* What is Armenian Art and Architecture?
* Where does Artsakh’s Heritage fit in the larger Armenian picture?
* What Armenian Heritage fell under Azerbaijani Control in 2020?
* What is Caucasus Heritage...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Preserving Armenian Heritage
Topics:
* What is Armenian Art and Architecture?
* Where does Artsakh’s Heritage fit in the larger Armenian picture?
* What Armenian Heritage fell under Azerbaijani Control in 2020?
* What is Caucasus Heritage Watch and What does it do?
* What can International Organizations do for Artsakh?
* How do International Instruments fail in Preserving Armenian Heritage?
Host:
* Simon Maghakyan is an independent researcher of cultural destruction and lecturer in International Relations at the University of Colorado Denver.
Guests
* Dr. Lori Khatchadourian is Associate Professor of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University and co-director of the Caucasus Heritage Watch satellite monitoring project.
* Dr. Christina Maranci is Arthur H. Dadian and Ara T. Oztemel Professor of Armenian art and architectural history and Chair of the Department of the History of Art and Architecture at Tufts University.
Episode 77 | Recorded: June 16, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210630.html</itunes:summary><description>Preserving Armenian Heritage
Topics:
* What is Armenian Art and Architecture?
* Where does Artsakh’s Heritage fit in the larger Armenian picture?
* What Armenian Heritage fell under Azerbaijani Control in 2020?
* What is Caucasus Heritage Watch and What does it do?
* What can International Organizations do for Artsakh?
* How do International Instruments fail in Preserving Armenian Heritage?
Host:
* Simon Maghakyan is an independent researcher of cultural destruction and lecturer in International Relations at the University of Colorado Denver.
Guests
* Dr. Lori Khatchadourian is Associate Professor of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University and co-director of the Caucasus Heritage Watch satellite monitoring project.
* Dr. Christina Maranci is Arthur H. Dadian and Ara T. Oztemel Professor of Armenian art and architectural history and Chair of the Department of the History of Art and Architecture at Tufts University.
Episode 77 | Recorded: June 16, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210630.html</description><googleplay:description>Preserving Armenian Heritage
Topics:
* What is Armenian Art and Architecture?
* Where does Artsakh’s Heritage fit in the larger Armenian picture?
* What Armenian Heritage fell under Azerbaijani Control in 2020?
* What is Caucasus Heritage Watch and What does it do?
* What can International Organizations do for Artsakh?
* How do International Instruments fail in Preserving Armenian Heritage?
Host:
* Simon Maghakyan is an independent researcher of cultural destruction and lecturer in International Relations at the University of Colorado Denver.
Guests
* Dr. Lori Khatchadourian is Associate Professor of Near Eastern Studies at Cornell University and co-director of the Caucasus Heritage Watch satellite monitoring project.
* Dr. Christina Maranci is Arthur H. Dadian and Ara T. Oztemel Professor of Armenian art and architectural history and Chair of the Department of the History of Art and Architecture at Tufts University.
Episode 77 | Recorded: June 16, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210630.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8788049-preserving-armenian-heritage-simon-maghakyan-talks-with-lori-khatchadourian-and-christina-maranci-ep-77-june-30-2021.mp3" length="36333481" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian Elections Recap | Protests in Artsakh | (Ep #76) - June 27, 2021
[EP76]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/76-armenian-elections-recap-protests-in-artsakh-ep-76-june-27-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 04:39:35 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8781690-armenian-elections-recap-protests-in-artsakh-ep-76-june-27-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>76</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian Elections Recap | Protests in Artsakh | (Ep #76) - June 27, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 27, 2021
Topics:
* Armenian Elections Recap
* Protests in Artsakh

Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* Emil Sanamyan

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian


Episode 76 | Recorded: June 27, 2021...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 27, 2021
Topics:
* Armenian Elections Recap
* Protests in Artsakh
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 76 | Recorded: June 27, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210627.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 27, 2021
Topics:
* Armenian Elections Recap
* Protests in Artsakh
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 76 | Recorded: June 27, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210627.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 27, 2021
Topics:
* Armenian Elections Recap
* Protests in Artsakh
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 76 | Recorded: June 27, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210627.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8781690-armenian-elections-recap-protests-in-artsakh-ep-76-june-27-2021.mp3" length="27383808" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:37:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aram Navasardyan: How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy? (Ep #75) - June 21, 2021
[EP75]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/75-aram-navasardyan-how-to-explain-the-mpg-polling-discrepancy-ep-75-june-21-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 05:24:59 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8737014-aram-navasardyan-how-to-explain-the-mpg-polling-discrepancy-ep-75-june-21-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>75</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aram Navasardyan: How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy? (Ep #75) - June 21, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy With Election Results?
A Conversation (in Armenian) with Aram Navasardyan

Guest:
Aram Navasardyan is Director of MPG, a member of Gallup International Association and one of the main pollsters  in...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy With Election Results?
A Conversation (in Armenian) with Aram Navasardyan
Guest:
Aram Navasardyan is Director of MPG, a member of Gallup International Association and one of the main pollsters in the pre-election campaign for June 2021 parliamentary elections.
--
Ինչպե՞ս բացատրել MPG- ի հարցումների անհամապատասխանությունը ընտրությունների արդյունքների հետ
Զրույց Արամ Նավասարդյանի հետ
Հյուր:
Արամ Նավասարդյանը MPG- ի տնօրենն է որը հանդիսանում է Gallup International Association- ի անդամ և հիմնական հետազոտական կազմակերպություններից մեկն եր 2021 թվականի հունիսի խորհրդարանական ընտրությունների նախընտրական քարոզարշավի ընթացում:
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 75 | Recorded: June 21, 2021</itunes:summary><description>How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy With Election Results?
A Conversation (in Armenian) with Aram Navasardyan
Guest:
Aram Navasardyan is Director of MPG, a member of Gallup International Association and one of the main pollsters in the pre-election campaign for June 2021 parliamentary elections.
--
Ինչպե՞ս բացատրել MPG- ի հարցումների անհամապատասխանությունը ընտրությունների արդյունքների հետ
Զրույց Արամ Նավասարդյանի հետ
Հյուր:
Արամ Նավասարդյանը MPG- ի տնօրենն է որը հանդիսանում է Gallup International Association- ի անդամ և հիմնական հետազոտական կազմակերպություններից մեկն եր 2021 թվականի հունիսի խորհրդարանական ընտրությունների նախընտրական քարոզարշավի ընթացում:
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 75 | Recorded: June 21, 2021</description><googleplay:description>How to Explain The MPG Polling Discrepancy With Election Results?
A Conversation (in Armenian) with Aram Navasardyan
Guest:
Aram Navasardyan is Director of MPG, a member of Gallup International Association and one of the main pollsters in the pre-election campaign for June 2021 parliamentary elections.
--
Ինչպե՞ս բացատրել MPG- ի հարցումների անհամապատասխանությունը ընտրությունների արդյունքների հետ
Զրույց Արամ Նավասարդյանի հետ
Հյուր:
Արամ Նավասարդյանը MPG- ի տնօրենն է որը հանդիսանում է Gallup International Association- ի անդամ և հիմնական հետազոտական կազմակերպություններից մեկն եր 2021 թվականի հունիսի խորհրդարանական ընտրությունների նախընտրական քարոզարշավի ընթացում:
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 75 | Recorded: June 21, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8737014-aram-navasardyan-how-to-explain-the-mpg-polling-discrepancy-ep-75-june-21-2021.mp3" length="29134211" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:40:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ArmVote21 | Am/Az Negotiations | Erdogan in Az | Biden Meets Erdogan &amp; Putin| Ep #74 - June 20, 2021
[EP74]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/74-elections-az-az-negotiations-erdogan-in-az-biden-meets-erdogan-putin-ep-74-june-20-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8736754-elections-az-az-negotiations-erdogan-in-az-biden-meets-erdogan-putin-ep-74-june-20-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>74</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ArmVote21 | Am/Az Negotiations | Erdogan in Az | Biden Meets Erdogan &amp; Putin| Ep #74 - June 20, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 20, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia’s Elections
* Behind The Scenes with Armenia and Azerbaijan
* Erdogan in Azerbaijan
* Biden Meets Erdogan, then Putin

Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* @Emil_Sanamyan

Hosts:
* Hovik...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 20, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia’s Elections
* Behind The Scenes with Armenia and Azerbaijan
* Erdogan in Azerbaijan
* Biden Meets Erdogan, then Putin
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* @Emil_Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 74 | Recorded: June 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210620.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 20, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia’s Elections
* Behind The Scenes with Armenia and Azerbaijan
* Erdogan in Azerbaijan
* Biden Meets Erdogan, then Putin
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* @Emil_Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 74 | Recorded: June 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210620.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 20, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia’s Elections
* Behind The Scenes with Armenia and Azerbaijan
* Erdogan in Azerbaijan
* Biden Meets Erdogan, then Putin
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* @Emil_Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 74 | Recorded: June 20, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210620.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8736754-elections-az-az-negotiations-erdogan-in-az-biden-meets-erdogan-putin-ep-74-june-20-2021.mp3" length="39460276" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:54:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Robert Markarian: Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections (Ep #73) - June 20, 2021
[EP73]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/73-robert-markarian-analyzing-party-platforms-in-june-20-parliamentary-elections-ep-73-june-20-2021/</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 06:48:44 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8728915-robert-markarian-analyzing-party-platforms-in-june-20-parliamentary-elections-ep-73-june-20-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>73</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Robert Markarian: Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections (Ep #73) - June 20, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Analyzing Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections

A Conversation with Robert Markarian

Guest:

Robert Markarian was born in Iran and has university education in physics and law. For 25 years, he has worked as a host, editor, and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Analyzing Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Guest:
Robert Markarian was born in Iran and has university education in physics and law. For 25 years, he has worked as a host, editor, and analyst on Armenian Radio Hour in Iran’s public radio and television. He has cooperated articles covering Armenia and Artsakh in Armenian, Persian, and English published by Iranian and Armenian sites and analytical centers.
Topics:
- Security/Defense
- Economy and Social
- Artsakh
- Diaspora Relations
Conversation in English and Armenian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 73 | Recorded: June 12, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210620.html</itunes:summary><description>Analyzing Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Guest:
Robert Markarian was born in Iran and has university education in physics and law. For 25 years, he has worked as a host, editor, and analyst on Armenian Radio Hour in Iran’s public radio and television. He has cooperated articles covering Armenia and Artsakh in Armenian, Persian, and English published by Iranian and Armenian sites and analytical centers.
Topics:
- Security/Defense
- Economy and Social
- Artsakh
- Diaspora Relations
Conversation in English and Armenian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 73 | Recorded: June 12, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210620.html</description><googleplay:description>Analyzing Party Platforms in June 20 Parliamentary Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Guest:
Robert Markarian was born in Iran and has university education in physics and law. For 25 years, he has worked as a host, editor, and analyst on Armenian Radio Hour in Iran’s public radio and television. He has cooperated articles covering Armenia and Artsakh in Armenian, Persian, and English published by Iranian and Armenian sites and analytical centers.
Topics:
- Security/Defense
- Economy and Social
- Artsakh
- Diaspora Relations
Conversation in English and Armenian
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 73 | Recorded: June 12, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210620.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8728915-robert-markarian-analyzing-party-platforms-in-june-20-parliamentary-elections-ep-73-june-20-2021.mp3" length="39206644" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:54:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections (Ep #72) - June 18, 2021
[EP72]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/72-aleksandr-khachaturyan-on-the-2021-armenian-elections-ep-72-june-18-2021/</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 06:44:09 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8724705-aleksandr-khachaturyan-on-the-2021-armenian-elections-ep-72-june-18-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>72</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections (Ep #72) - June 18, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections

Guest:

Aleksandr Khachaturyan who is a Managing Partner at TK &amp; Partners, in Yerevan. In 2016 he served as an advisor to the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, Karen Karapetyan,...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections
Guest:
Aleksandr Khachaturyan who is a Managing Partner at TK & Partners, in Yerevan. In 2016 he served as an advisor to the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, Karen Karapetyan, and was CEO of the Center for Strategic Initiatives, advising the government on key economic and public administration reforms and strategies. He serves as a board member at ID Bank and various non-profits, and lectures on corporate finance law at the French University of Armenia (FUA). He holds law degrees from Boston University, FUA, and Jean Moulin Lyon 3.
Topics:
- Hayastan Dashink (Armenia Alliance) Platform
- Economy: Current State and Way Forward
- Military-Industrial Complex, Financing Modernization of Army
- Armenia-Diaspora Relations
- IT Sector
- Opening Border With Turkey?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210618-2.html
Episode 72 | Recorded: June 18, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections
Guest:
Aleksandr Khachaturyan who is a Managing Partner at TK & Partners, in Yerevan. In 2016 he served as an advisor to the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, Karen Karapetyan, and was CEO of the Center for Strategic Initiatives, advising the government on key economic and public administration reforms and strategies. He serves as a board member at ID Bank and various non-profits, and lectures on corporate finance law at the French University of Armenia (FUA). He holds law degrees from Boston University, FUA, and Jean Moulin Lyon 3.
Topics:
- Hayastan Dashink (Armenia Alliance) Platform
- Economy: Current State and Way Forward
- Military-Industrial Complex, Financing Modernization of Army
- Armenia-Diaspora Relations
- IT Sector
- Opening Border With Turkey?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210618-2.html
Episode 72 | Recorded: June 18, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Aleksandr Khachaturyan on the 2021 Armenian Elections
Guest:
Aleksandr Khachaturyan who is a Managing Partner at TK & Partners, in Yerevan. In 2016 he served as an advisor to the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, Karen Karapetyan, and was CEO of the Center for Strategic Initiatives, advising the government on key economic and public administration reforms and strategies. He serves as a board member at ID Bank and various non-profits, and lectures on corporate finance law at the French University of Armenia (FUA). He holds law degrees from Boston University, FUA, and Jean Moulin Lyon 3.
Topics:
- Hayastan Dashink (Armenia Alliance) Platform
- Economy: Current State and Way Forward
- Military-Industrial Complex, Financing Modernization of Army
- Armenia-Diaspora Relations
- IT Sector
- Opening Border With Turkey?
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210618-2.html
Episode 72 | Recorded: June 18, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8724705-aleksandr-khachaturyan-on-the-2021-armenian-elections-ep-72-june-18-2021.mp3" length="42659145" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:59:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Aspram Krpeyan: Hayastan Dashinq, Elections and Postwar Outlook (Ep #71) - June 18, 2021
[EP71]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/71-aspram-krpeyan-hayastan-dashinq-elections-and-postwar-outlook-ep-71-june-18-2021/</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8724144-apram-krpeyan-hayastan-dashinq-elections-and-postwar-outlook-ep-71-june-18-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>71</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Aspram Krpeyan: Hayastan Dashinq, Elections and Postwar Outlook (Ep #71) - June 18, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Hayastan Dashinq (Armenia Alliance), Elections and Postwar Outlook

Guest

Aspram Krpeyan, is a member of the Hayastan Dashinq led by former president Robert Kocharyan in the upcoming elections in Armenia, and a member of its list of...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Hayastan Dashinq (Armenia Alliance), Elections and Postwar Outlook
Guest
Aspram Krpeyan, is a member of the Hayastan Dashinq led by former president Robert Kocharyan in the upcoming elections in Armenia, and a member of its list of parliamentary party representatives. She holds an MSt in Diplomatic Studies from the University of Oxford and an LLM from the Geneva Academy of the International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights. Her research interests lie in international law with a focus on the interplay between international humanitarian law and human rights, use of force, including the conduct of hostilities, the right to self-determination, secession and territorial integrity. She also has interests in contemporary Armenian foreign policy and international relations.
Ms. Krpeyan has worked in the Ministry of Defence, as well as the office of the President of Armenia. She is the co-founding director of the Tatul Krpeyan Peace Foundation.
Topics
- Elections
- War
- Foreign Affairs
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 71 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Hayastan Dashinq (Armenia Alliance), Elections and Postwar Outlook
Guest
Aspram Krpeyan, is a member of the Hayastan Dashinq led by former president Robert Kocharyan in the upcoming elections in Armenia, and a member of its list of parliamentary party representatives. She holds an MSt in Diplomatic Studies from the University of Oxford and an LLM from the Geneva Academy of the International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights. Her research interests lie in international law with a focus on the interplay between international humanitarian law and human rights, use of force, including the conduct of hostilities, the right to self-determination, secession and territorial integrity. She also has interests in contemporary Armenian foreign policy and international relations.
Ms. Krpeyan has worked in the Ministry of Defence, as well as the office of the President of Armenia. She is the co-founding director of the Tatul Krpeyan Peace Foundation.
Topics
- Elections
- War
- Foreign Affairs
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 71 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Hayastan Dashinq (Armenia Alliance), Elections and Postwar Outlook
Guest
Aspram Krpeyan, is a member of the Hayastan Dashinq led by former president Robert Kocharyan in the upcoming elections in Armenia, and a member of its list of parliamentary party representatives. She holds an MSt in Diplomatic Studies from the University of Oxford and an LLM from the Geneva Academy of the International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights. Her research interests lie in international law with a focus on the interplay between international humanitarian law and human rights, use of force, including the conduct of hostilities, the right to self-determination, secession and territorial integrity. She also has interests in contemporary Armenian foreign policy and international relations.
Ms. Krpeyan has worked in the Ministry of Defence, as well as the office of the President of Armenia. She is the co-founding director of the Tatul Krpeyan Peace Foundation.
Topics
- Elections
- War
- Foreign Affairs
Hosts:
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 71 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8724144-apram-krpeyan-hayastan-dashinq-elections-and-postwar-outlook-ep-71-june-18-2021.mp3" length="26973155" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:37:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Meltdown at the MFA | Philip Reeker Visit | 15 POWs Return | Latest Polls | (Ep #70) - June 13, 2021
[EP70]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/70-meltdown-at-the-mfa-philip-reeker-s-visit-15-pows-return-latest-polls-ep-70-june-13-2021/</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 03:51:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8712155-meltdown-at-the-mfa-philip-reeker-s-visit-15-pows-return-latest-polls-ep-70-june-13-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Meltdown at the MFA | Philip Reeker Visit | 15 POWs Return | Latest Polls | (Ep #70) - June 13, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 13, 2021
Topics:
* Meltdown at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* Philip Reeker’s Visit to the Region
* 15 POWs Return Home
* Latest Election Poll Results

Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Tevan Poghosyan

Hosts:
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 13, 2021
Topics:
* Meltdown at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* Philip Reeker’s Visit to the Region
* 15 POWs Return Home
* Latest Election Poll Results
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Tevan Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 70 | Recorded: June 13, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210613.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 13, 2021
Topics:
* Meltdown at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* Philip Reeker’s Visit to the Region
* 15 POWs Return Home
* Latest Election Poll Results
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Tevan Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 70 | Recorded: June 13, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210613.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 13, 2021
Topics:
* Meltdown at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
* Philip Reeker’s Visit to the Region
* 15 POWs Return Home
* Latest Election Poll Results
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Tevan Poghosyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 70 | Recorded: June 13, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210613.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8712155-meltdown-at-the-mfa-philip-reeker-s-visit-15-pows-return-latest-polls-ep-70-june-13-2021.mp3" length="36674156" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Unblocking The South Caucasus, Facts &amp; 'Alternative Facts' | Ep 83 - Aug 1, 2021 (Recorded 6/14/21)
[EP83]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/83-emil-sanamyan-areg-danagoulian-unblocking-south-caucasus/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 04:00:12 -0800</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8953422-unblocking-the-south-caucasus-fact-or-fiction-ep-83-august-1-2021-recorded-june-14-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>83</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Unblocking The South Caucasus, Facts &amp; 'Alternative Facts' | Ep 83 - Aug 1, 2021 (Recorded 6/14/21)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 08/01/2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
#### Topic:
* This **Conversations on Groong** episode is our first Live Show on Clubhouse and hopefully it will be an informative, as well as an enjoyable discussion for all. We will be talking about the politics of opening the paths of communication, lifting blockades, and the rumors, facts, and fallacies around so-called “corridors” through each other’s countries.
Episode 83 | Recorded: June 14, 2021</itunes:summary><description>
#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
#### Topic:
* This **Conversations on Groong** episode is our first Live Show on Clubhouse and hopefully it will be an informative, as well as an enjoyable discussion for all. We will be talking about the politics of opening the paths of communication, lifting blockades, and the rumors, facts, and fallacies around so-called “corridors” through each other’s countries.
Episode 83 | Recorded: June 14, 2021</description><googleplay:description>
#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
#### Topic:
* This **Conversations on Groong** episode is our first Live Show on Clubhouse and hopefully it will be an informative, as well as an enjoyable discussion for all. We will be talking about the politics of opening the paths of communication, lifting blockades, and the rumors, facts, and fallacies around so-called “corridors” through each other’s countries.
Episode 83 | Recorded: June 14, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p>Perhaps before discussing these contentious issues, it might be useful to look at the history of the closed borders.</p>
<p>The three prior Armenian administrations (LTP, Kocharyan, Sargsyan) while being in disagreements on other issues related to the Nagorno Karabakh conflict have been in complete agreement on the need of open borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan:</p>
<ul>
<li>In the 90s LTP’s government had talks (according to Alexander Arzumanyan) with Tansu Ciller’s government, with the later making offers to open the border with Armenia in exchange for some concessions on the Karabakh issue (Arzumanyan claimed that Ciller asked the Armenians to withdraw from Jabrayil).</li>
<li>During his famous 1998 speech LTP stated that Armenia’s economy would always be hindered by excessively large export transportation costs due to the need to go through Georgia.</li>
<li>During the Key West Agreement (later reneged on by Heydar Aliyev) Robert Kocharyan agreed to conditions similar to those listed in <strong>Article 9</strong>.</li>
<li>Most importantly during Serzh Sargsyan’s government Armenia and Turkey engaged in “soccer diplomacy,” where Erdogan’s and Sargsyan’s governments negotiated about the terms of border opening between Armenia and Turkey. Again, due to nationalist pressures inside Armenia and Turkey this never came to pass.</li>
<li>Various Armenian governments have also decried the Azeri blockade of Armenia. It is clear that opening of transportation routes through Azerbaijan would significantly reduce transportation costs for Armenian economic exchange with Russia, its main economic partner, and reduce its dependence on Georgia as a transit point (something that is acutely felt during periodic flair ups in Russian-Georgian tensions)</li>
</ul>
<p>Currently, however, the roles appear to be reversed. Turkey and Azerbaijan are pushing to open the borders, while Armenia is not ready for it. What are the reasons for this?</p>
<p>Azeri president Ilham Aliyev has threatened to go to war to ensure that <strong>Article 9</strong> provisions are implemented. PM Pashinyan has slowed down the process, first because Aliyev has reneged on implementing <strong>Article 8</strong> (exchange of POWs), and instead has staged incursions directly into Armenia, in the process repeating his demands for a “corridor”, which many in Armenia interpreted as an encroachment on sovereign Armenian land.</p>
<ul>
<li>What&rsquo;s the history of negotiations on the opening of the
<ul>
<li>Border between Turkey and Armenia</li>
<li>Border between Az and Armenia</li>
<li>Nakhichevan and Azerbaijan connection</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What’s fiction and what’s fact?
<ul>
<li>Does E-W communication prevent N-S communication?</li>
<li>Does the Azerbaijan-Nakhichevan “connection” for Azerbaijan pose a threat to Armenia?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What are the pro/con arguments presented, and by who?
<ul>
<li>What are the downsides (at least as quoted by the detractors) of open borders with Turkey/Az for Armenia?</li>
<li>What is Russia’s position on opening communications?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Are there estimates of the benefits to the main sides?
<ul>
<li>Are there financial estimates for opening communications?</li>
<li>Who will be the main beneficiaries?
<ul>
<li>Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia, Georgia, Iran?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>What political causes may or may not be damaged?
<ul>
<li>Artsakh independence or self-determination?</li>
<li>Genocide recognition?</li>
<li>etc.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How would the two main contenders in the upcoming election, Pashinyan and Civil Contract, and Kocharyan and the Armenia Alliance, deal with these issues?</li>
<li>What should be Armenia’s general position to achieve long-term peace with Azerbaijan and Turkey?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8953422-unblocking-the-south-caucasus-fact-or-fiction-ep-83-august-1-2021-recorded-june-14-2021.mp3" length="57665905" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>4801</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap &amp; Challenges - Conversation with Giro Manoyan | (Ep #69) - June 11, 2021
[EP69]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/69-giro-manoyan-arf-dashnaktsutyun-roadmap-challenges-conversation/</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 19:13:50 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8688379-arf-dashnaktsutyun-roadmap-challenges-conversation-with-giro-manoyan-ep-69-june-11-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>69</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap &amp; Challenges - Conversation with Giro Manoyan | (Ep #69) - June 11, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap and Challenges

Guest
* Giro Manoyan has been a member of the ARF-D Bureau since 2015. Originally from Beirut, Lebanon, he moved to Montreal, Canada in 1976. He has served as the Executive Secretary of the Armenian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap and Challenges
Guest
* Giro Manoyan has been a member of the ARF-D Bureau since 2015. Originally from Beirut, Lebanon, he moved to Montreal, Canada in 1976. He has served as the Executive Secretary of the Armenian National Committee of Canada, as well as the Editor in Chief of the Horizon Armenian Weekly. In 1999 he moved to Yerevan and has served as the Executive Director of the Bureau of the ARF-D, in charge of the Armenian Cause, Hai Tahd Central Committee.
Topics
* The ARF in the Politics of Armenia
* On the War in 2020
* On the Upcoming Elections in 2021
* On the Internal Strife within the ARF
Hosts:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210611.html
Episode 69 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap and Challenges
Guest
* Giro Manoyan has been a member of the ARF-D Bureau since 2015. Originally from Beirut, Lebanon, he moved to Montreal, Canada in 1976. He has served as the Executive Secretary of the Armenian National Committee of Canada, as well as the Editor in Chief of the Horizon Armenian Weekly. In 1999 he moved to Yerevan and has served as the Executive Director of the Bureau of the ARF-D, in charge of the Armenian Cause, Hai Tahd Central Committee.
Topics
* The ARF in the Politics of Armenia
* On the War in 2020
* On the Upcoming Elections in 2021
* On the Internal Strife within the ARF
Hosts:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210611.html
Episode 69 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ARF-Dashnaktsutyun: Roadmap and Challenges
Guest
* Giro Manoyan has been a member of the ARF-D Bureau since 2015. Originally from Beirut, Lebanon, he moved to Montreal, Canada in 1976. He has served as the Executive Secretary of the Armenian National Committee of Canada, as well as the Editor in Chief of the Horizon Armenian Weekly. In 1999 he moved to Yerevan and has served as the Executive Director of the Bureau of the ARF-D, in charge of the Armenian Cause, Hai Tahd Central Committee.
Topics
* The ARF in the Politics of Armenia
* On the War in 2020
* On the Upcoming Elections in 2021
* On the Internal Strife within the ARF
Hosts:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210611.html
Episode 69 | Recorded: June 7, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8688379-arf-dashnaktsutyun-roadmap-challenges-conversation-with-giro-manoyan-ep-69-june-11-2021.mp3" length="41786527" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:57:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War | (Ep #68) - June 8, 2021
[EP68]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/68-armenia-superpowers-and-the-new-cold-war-ep-68-june-8-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2021 15:26:58 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8669387-armenia-superpowers-and-the-new-cold-war-ep-68-june-8-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>68</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War | (Ep #68) - June 8, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War

A Conversation with:

Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Cleveland-based historian of Russia and the Soviet Union, with a focus on Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus during the era of Nikita...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War
A Conversation with:
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Cleveland-based historian of Russia and the Soviet Union, with a focus on Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw.
Topics
* Democracy-building in the Post Soviet Space
* NATO and expansion
* Russia in the Caucasus
* China and the New Silk Road through Iran and Georgia
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 68 | Recorded: June 4, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210608.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War
A Conversation with:
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Cleveland-based historian of Russia and the Soviet Union, with a focus on Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw.
Topics
* Democracy-building in the Post Soviet Space
* NATO and expansion
* Russia in the Caucasus
* China and the New Silk Road through Iran and Georgia
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 68 | Recorded: June 4, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210608.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenia, Superpowers and The New Cold War
A Conversation with:
Guest:
* Dr. Pietro Shakarian, who is a Cleveland-based historian of Russia and the Soviet Union, with a focus on Soviet Armenia and the Caucasus during the era of Nikita Khrushchev’s Thaw.
Topics
* Democracy-building in the Post Soviet Space
* NATO and expansion
* Russia in the Caucasus
* China and the New Silk Road through Iran and Georgia
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 68 | Recorded: June 4, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210608.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8669387-armenia-superpowers-and-the-new-cold-war-ep-68-june-8-2021.mp3" length="40329142" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Iran: Foreign Relations, Upcoming Elections (Ep. 67) - 06/07/2021
[EP67]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/67-robert-markarian-iran-foreign-relations-upcoming-elections-ep-66-06-07-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2021 03:10:16 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8658018-iran-foreign-relations-upcoming-elections-ep-66-06-07-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>67</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Iran: Foreign Relations, Upcoming Elections (Ep. 67) - 06/07/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian

The South Caucasus comprises Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia. The three regional powers surrounding them are Russia to the north, Turkey to the west, and...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
The South Caucasus comprises Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia. The three regional powers surrounding them are Russia to the north, Turkey to the west, and Iran in the south.
Iran has been largely quiet about events on its northern border with Armenia and Azerbaijan, due largely to its marginalization on the world stage because of the Western economic sanctions but also because Iran is home to millions of ethnic Azeris and any perceived support for Armenia could result in additional political instability at home.
Yet, Iran is hugely influential, and Armenian-Iranian relations have been largely positive in modern times, especially in the post-Soviet era. So how should we view our relations with Iran today, and especially in the past year? And what should we expect in the future?
Guest:
Robert Markarian, who has degrees in physics and law from Tehran University, and has published several political articles about Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh in Armenian and Persian newspapers and political journals such as Alik, Iranian Diplomacy, IRAS (The Institute for Iran-Eurasia Studies), IPSC (International Peace Studies Center) and The California Courier. His articles in Armenian, Farsi and English are available on robertmarkarian.com. He studies and has presented on the position of the Iranian Government and scientific-research centers on the conflict around Nagorno Karabakh at conferences such as the Pan-Armenian Conference of Political Scientists and International Relations Experts (November, 2012) and more.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Translation from Armenian to English by Martin Adamian.
Episode 67 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
The South Caucasus comprises Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia. The three regional powers surrounding them are Russia to the north, Turkey to the west, and Iran in the south.
Iran has been largely quiet about events on its northern border with Armenia and Azerbaijan, due largely to its marginalization on the world stage because of the Western economic sanctions but also because Iran is home to millions of ethnic Azeris and any perceived support for Armenia could result in additional political instability at home.
Yet, Iran is hugely influential, and Armenian-Iranian relations have been largely positive in modern times, especially in the post-Soviet era. So how should we view our relations with Iran today, and especially in the past year? And what should we expect in the future?
Guest:
Robert Markarian, who has degrees in physics and law from Tehran University, and has published several political articles about Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh in Armenian and Persian newspapers and political journals such as Alik, Iranian Diplomacy, IRAS (The Institute for Iran-Eurasia Studies), IPSC (International Peace Studies Center) and The California Courier. His articles in Armenian, Farsi and English are available on robertmarkarian.com. He studies and has presented on the position of the Iranian Government and scientific-research centers on the conflict around Nagorno Karabakh at conferences such as the Pan-Armenian Conference of Political Scientists and International Relations Experts (November, 2012) and more.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Translation from Armenian to English by Martin Adamian.
Episode 67 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
The South Caucasus comprises Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia. The three regional powers surrounding them are Russia to the north, Turkey to the west, and Iran in the south.
Iran has been largely quiet about events on its northern border with Armenia and Azerbaijan, due largely to its marginalization on the world stage because of the Western economic sanctions but also because Iran is home to millions of ethnic Azeris and any perceived support for Armenia could result in additional political instability at home.
Yet, Iran is hugely influential, and Armenian-Iranian relations have been largely positive in modern times, especially in the post-Soviet era. So how should we view our relations with Iran today, and especially in the past year? And what should we expect in the future?
Guest:
Robert Markarian, who has degrees in physics and law from Tehran University, and has published several political articles about Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh in Armenian and Persian newspapers and political journals such as Alik, Iranian Diplomacy, IRAS (The Institute for Iran-Eurasia Studies), IPSC (International Peace Studies Center) and The California Courier. His articles in Armenian, Farsi and English are available on robertmarkarian.com. He studies and has presented on the position of the Iranian Government and scientific-research centers on the conflict around Nagorno Karabakh at conferences such as the Pan-Armenian Conference of Political Scientists and International Relations Experts (November, 2012) and more.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Translation from Armenian to English by Martin Adamian.
Episode 67 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8658018-iran-foreign-relations-upcoming-elections-ep-66-06-07-2021.mp3" length="29755466" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Kocharyan Closes In on Pashinyan’s Lead | Pashinyan Visits Europe | (Ep #66) - June 6, 2021
[EP66]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/66-kocharyan-closes-in-on-pashinyan-s-lead-in-election-polls-pashinyan-visits-europe-ep-66-june-6-2021/</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8656698-kocharyan-closes-in-on-pashinyan-s-lead-in-election-polls-pashinyan-visits-europe-ep-66-june-6-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Kocharyan Closes In on Pashinyan’s Lead | Pashinyan Visits Europe | (Ep #66) - June 6, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 6, 2021

Topics:
* Kocharyan Closes in on Pashinyan in Election Polls
* Pashinyan Visits Europe

Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Emil Sanamyan

Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian
* Hovik Manucharyan

Website:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 6, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan Closes in on Pashinyan in Election Polls
* Pashinyan Visits Europe
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian
* Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210606.html
Episode 66 | Recorded: June 6, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 6, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan Closes in on Pashinyan in Election Polls
* Pashinyan Visits Europe
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian
* Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210606.html
Episode 66 | Recorded: June 6, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - June 6, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan Closes in on Pashinyan in Election Polls
* Pashinyan Visits Europe
Guests:
* Asbed Kotchikian
* Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
* Asbed Bedrossian
* Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210606.html
Episode 66 | Recorded: June 6, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8656698-kocharyan-closes-in-on-pashinyan-s-lead-in-election-polls-pashinyan-visits-europe-ep-66-june-6-2021.mp3" length="40008824" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tensions on the Border | Latest IRI &amp; MPG Polls | Election Politics | (Ep #65) - May 30, 2021
[EP65]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/65-tensions-on-the-border-latest-iri-mpg-polls-election-politics-ep-65-may-30-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 03:42:11 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8617147-tensions-on-the-border-latest-iri-mpg-polls-election-politics-ep-65-may-30-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>65</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tensions on the Border | Latest IRI &amp; MPG Polls | Election Politics | (Ep #65) - May 30, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 30, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Tensions on the Eastern Border
* Latest IRI and MPG Polls on the Armenian Elections
* Election Politics

Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* George Tabakyan

Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 30, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Tensions on the Eastern Border
* Latest IRI and MPG Polls on the Armenian Elections
* Election Politics
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* George Tabakyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 65 | Recorded: May 30, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210530.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 30, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Tensions on the Eastern Border
* Latest IRI and MPG Polls on the Armenian Elections
* Election Politics
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* George Tabakyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 65 | Recorded: May 30, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210530.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 30, 2021
Topics:
* Continued Tensions on the Eastern Border
* Latest IRI and MPG Polls on the Armenian Elections
* Election Politics
Guests:
* Hrant Mikaelian
* George Tabakyan
Hosts:
* Hovik Manucharyan
* Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 65 | Recorded: May 30, 2021
https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210530.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8617147-tensions-on-the-border-latest-iri-mpg-polls-election-politics-ep-65-may-30-2021.mp3" length="38351515" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:53:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ (Armenian) (Ep 64) - 05/29/2021
[EP64]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/64-robert-markarian-%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%A5%D5%B6-ep-64-05-29-2021/</link><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2021 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8608960-ep-64-05-29-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>64</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ (Armenian) (Ep 64) - 05/29/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections (in Armenian)
A Conversation with Robert Markarian

Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ
Զրույց Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանի հետ

Guest:

Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանը ծնվել է Թեհրանում և ունի...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections (in Armenian)
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ
Զրույց Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանի հետ
Guest:
Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանը ծնվել է Թեհրանում և ունի բարձրագույն կրթությունն ֆիզիկայի և իրավաբանության ոլորտներում: 25 տարի աշխատել է Իրանի պետական ռադիո-հեռուստատեսության հայերեն ռադիոժամում, որպես լուրերի հաղորդավար, խմբագիր և մեկնաբան: Հայաստանի և Արցախի թեմաներով հայերեն, պարսկերեն ու անգլերեն հոդվածներով համագործակցել է իրանական ու հայկական կայքերի և հետազոտական հաստատությունների հետ:
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210529.html
Episode 64 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections (in Armenian)
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ
Զրույց Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանի հետ
Guest:
Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանը ծնվել է Թեհրանում և ունի բարձրագույն կրթությունն ֆիզիկայի և իրավաբանության ոլորտներում: 25 տարի աշխատել է Իրանի պետական ռադիո-հեռուստատեսության հայերեն ռադիոժամում, որպես լուրերի հաղորդավար, խմբագիր և մեկնաբան: Հայաստանի և Արցախի թեմաներով հայերեն, պարսկերեն ու անգլերեն հոդվածներով համագործակցել է իրանական ու հայկական կայքերի և հետազոտական հաստատությունների հետ:
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210529.html
Episode 64 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Iran: Foreign Relations and Upcoming Elections (in Armenian)
A Conversation with Robert Markarian
Իրան: Արտաքին Հարաբերուտյուններ, գալիք ընտրություններ
Զրույց Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանի հետ
Guest:
Ռոբերտ Մարգարյանը ծնվել է Թեհրանում և ունի բարձրագույն կրթությունն ֆիզիկայի և իրավաբանության ոլորտներում: 25 տարի աշխատել է Իրանի պետական ռադիո-հեռուստատեսության հայերեն ռադիոժամում, որպես լուրերի հաղորդավար, խմբագիր և մեկնաբան: Հայաստանի և Արցախի թեմաներով հայերեն, պարսկերեն ու անգլերեն հոդվածներով համագործակցել է իրանական ու հայկական կայքերի և հետազոտական հաստատությունների հետ:
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210529.html
Episode 64 | Recorded: May 28, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8608960-ep-64-05-29-2021.mp3" length="37313544" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:51:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>A Conversation with Narek Margaryan (Ep 63) - 05/25/2021
[EP63]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/63-a-conversation-with-narek-margaryan-ep-63-05-25-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8584216-a-conversation-with-narek-margaryan-ep-63-05-25-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>63</itunes:episode><itunes:title>A Conversation with Narek Margaryan (Ep 63) - 05/25/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        A Conversation with Narek Margaryan - 05/25/2021

Guest:

Narek Margaryan is an Armenian comedian, screenwriter and TV host. Along with his co-host Sergey Sargsyan, Narek stars in ArmComedy, a satiric news show series broadcast on Armenian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>A Conversation with Narek Margaryan - 05/25/2021
Guest:
Narek Margaryan is an Armenian comedian, screenwriter and TV host. Along with his co-host Sergey Sargsyan, Narek stars in ArmComedy, a satiric news show series broadcast on Armenian television and on Youtube.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 63 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</itunes:summary><description>A Conversation with Narek Margaryan - 05/25/2021
Guest:
Narek Margaryan is an Armenian comedian, screenwriter and TV host. Along with his co-host Sergey Sargsyan, Narek stars in ArmComedy, a satiric news show series broadcast on Armenian television and on Youtube.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 63 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</description><googleplay:description>A Conversation with Narek Margaryan - 05/25/2021
Guest:
Narek Margaryan is an Armenian comedian, screenwriter and TV host. Along with his co-host Sergey Sargsyan, Narek stars in ArmComedy, a satiric news show series broadcast on Armenian television and on Youtube.
Hosts
Hovik Manucharyan
Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 63 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8584216-a-conversation-with-narek-margaryan-ep-63-05-25-2021.mp3" length="22381394" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:31:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Border Update &amp; Leaks | Azerbaijan in the CSTO? | New Poll &amp; Elections | (Ep #62) - May 23, 2021
[EP62]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/62-emil-sanamyan-border-update-leaked-docs-azerbaijan-in-the-csto-new-mpg-poll-elections-ep-62-may-23-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 20:12:36 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8583764-border-update-leaked-docs-azerbaijan-in-the-csto-new-mpg-poll-elections-ep-62-may-23-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>62</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Border Update &amp; Leaks | Azerbaijan in the CSTO? | New Poll &amp; Elections | (Ep #62) - May 23, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 23, 2021

Topics:
- Border update, and Leaked documents 
- Azerbaijan membership in the CSTO?
- New MPG Poll on the Armenian Elections

Guest:
- Emil Sanamyan

Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 23, 2021
Topics:
- Border update, and Leaked documents
- Azerbaijan membership in the CSTO?
- New MPG Poll on the Armenian Elections
Guest:
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210523.html
Recorded: May 24, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 23, 2021
Topics:
- Border update, and Leaked documents
- Azerbaijan membership in the CSTO?
- New MPG Poll on the Armenian Elections
Guest:
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210523.html
Recorded: May 24, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 23, 2021
Topics:
- Border update, and Leaked documents
- Azerbaijan membership in the CSTO?
- New MPG Poll on the Armenian Elections
Guest:
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210523.html
Recorded: May 24, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8583764-border-update-leaked-docs-azerbaijan-in-the-csto-new-mpg-poll-elections-ep-62-may-23-2021.mp3" length="36326827" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Azerbaijan Incursion in Syunik | Lavrov in Yerevan/Baku | Electoral Politics (Ep #61) May 16, 2021
[EP61]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/61-azerbaijan-s-incursion-into-syunik-lavrov-s-visit-to-yerevan-and-baku-electoral-politics-ep-61-may-16-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 02:44:41 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8532990-azerbaijan-s-incursion-into-syunik-lavrov-s-visit-to-yerevan-and-baku-electoral-politics-ep-61-may-16-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Azerbaijan Incursion in Syunik | Lavrov in Yerevan/Baku | Electoral Politics (Ep #61) May 16, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 16, 2021
Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s Incursion into Syunik
* Lavrov’s Visit to Yerevan and Baku
* Electoral Politics

Guests:
- Tatul Hakobyan
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan

Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 16, 2021
Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s Incursion into Syunik
* Lavrov’s Visit to Yerevan and Baku
* Electoral Politics
Guests:
- Tatul Hakobyan
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210516.html</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 16, 2021
Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s Incursion into Syunik
* Lavrov’s Visit to Yerevan and Baku
* Electoral Politics
Guests:
- Tatul Hakobyan
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210516.html</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 16, 2021
Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s Incursion into Syunik
* Lavrov’s Visit to Yerevan and Baku
* Electoral Politics
Guests:
- Tatul Hakobyan
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Hosts:
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210516.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8532990-azerbaijan-s-incursion-into-syunik-lavrov-s-visit-to-yerevan-and-baku-electoral-politics-ep-61-may-16-2021.mp3" length="45228766" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:02:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia-Russia | Iran-Russia/Iran-Armenia | Election Latest Polls | Sargsyan (Ep #60) - May 2, 2021
[EP60]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/60-armenia-russia-iran-russia-iran-armenia-election-latest-polls-sargsyan-ep-60-may-2-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 01:27:16 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8448365-armenia-russia-iran-russia-iran-armenia-election-latest-polls-sargsyan-ep-60-may-2-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia-Russia | Iran-Russia/Iran-Armenia | Election Latest Polls | Sargsyan (Ep #60) - May 2, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 2, 2021

Topics:
* Armenia-Russia Relations and the New Cold War
* Iran-Russia and Iran-Armenia Relations
* Election Politics and the Latest MPG Polls
* Serge Sargsyan’s Interview

Guests:
- Marine Manucharyan...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 2, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia-Russia Relations and the New Cold War
* Iran-Russia and Iran-Armenia Relations
* Election Politics and the Latest MPG Polls
* Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
Guests:
- Marine Manucharyan @armoland
- Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 2, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia-Russia Relations and the New Cold War
* Iran-Russia and Iran-Armenia Relations
* Election Politics and the Latest MPG Polls
* Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
Guests:
- Marine Manucharyan @armoland
- Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - May 2, 2021
Topics:
* Armenia-Russia Relations and the New Cold War
* Iran-Russia and Iran-Armenia Relations
* Election Politics and the Latest MPG Polls
* Serge Sargsyan’s Interview
Guests:
- Marine Manucharyan @armoland
- Pietro Shakarian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian @qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan @HovikYerevan
Episode 60 | Recorded: May 2, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8448365-armenia-russia-iran-russia-iran-armenia-election-latest-polls-sargsyan-ep-60-may-2-2021.mp3" length="38866244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:53:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>PM Roadmap, NA Polls | Syunik | Recognized. What next? | Stepanakert | Space! - Ep #59: 2021-04-25
[EP59]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/59-pm-s-roadmap-na-polls-syunik-recognized-stepanakert-armenians-in-space-ep-59-apr-25-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8404309-pm-s-roadmap-na-polls-syunik-recognized-stepanakert-armenians-in-space-ep-59-apr-25-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><itunes:title>PM Roadmap, NA Polls | Syunik | Recognized. What next? | Stepanakert | Space! - Ep #59: 2021-04-25</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 25, 2021

Topics:

- Nikol Pashinyan’s Roadmap &amp; Snap Parliamentary Polls
- The Visit to Syunik
- Biden Recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Now What?
- Update from Stepanakert
- Are we Going to Mars?

Guests:
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 25, 2021
Topics:
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Roadmap & Snap Parliamentary Polls
- The Visit to Syunik
- Biden Recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Now What?
- Update from Stepanakert
- Are we Going to Mars?
Guests:
- Tevan Poghosyan
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210425.html
Episode 59 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 25, 2021
Topics:
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Roadmap & Snap Parliamentary Polls
- The Visit to Syunik
- Biden Recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Now What?
- Update from Stepanakert
- Are we Going to Mars?
Guests:
- Tevan Poghosyan
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210425.html
Episode 59 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 25, 2021
Topics:
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Roadmap & Snap Parliamentary Polls
- The Visit to Syunik
- Biden Recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Now What?
- Update from Stepanakert
- Are we Going to Mars?
Guests:
- Tevan Poghosyan
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210425.html
Episode 59 | Recorded: April 25, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8404309-pm-s-roadmap-na-polls-syunik-recognized-stepanakert-armenians-in-space-ep-59-apr-25-2021.mp3" length="50871470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:10:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenians at Crossroads - a Conversation with Dr. Viken Hovsepian (Ep #58) - 04/17/2021
[EP58]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/58-viken-hovsepian-armenians-at-a-crossroad-ep-58-04-17-2021/</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 23:48:25 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8350631-armenians-at-crossroads-a-conversation-with-dr-viken-hovsepian-ep-58-04-17-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenians at Crossroads - a Conversation with Dr. Viken Hovsepian (Ep #58) - 04/17/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenians at Crossroads - 04/17/2021

Topics:
- The Last Few Years in Armenian Politics
- Thoughts on the Second War in Artsakh
- What is the Role of the Diaspora?
- How do we get back on our Feet?
- Thoughts on the Current Rift in the ARF...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenians at Crossroads - 04/17/2021
Topics:
- The Last Few Years in Armenian Politics
- Thoughts on the Second War in Artsakh
- What is the Role of the Diaspora?
- How do we get back on our Feet?
- Thoughts on the Current Rift in the ARF
Guest
- Dr. Viken Hovsepian holds a BA in Political Science from UCLA, and an MA and PhD in International Relations from USC. He has served on the ARF Dashnaktsutyun Bureau, the highest executive body of the Organization, and has been a member, and chairman of the ARF Western US Central Committee. In 2019, he helped establish the Pan Armenian Council in the Western US, and has authored many articles which have appeared in professional periodicals as well as the Armenian press.
Hosts
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 58 | Recorded: April 14, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210417.html</itunes:summary><description>Armenians at Crossroads - 04/17/2021
Topics:
- The Last Few Years in Armenian Politics
- Thoughts on the Second War in Artsakh
- What is the Role of the Diaspora?
- How do we get back on our Feet?
- Thoughts on the Current Rift in the ARF
Guest
- Dr. Viken Hovsepian holds a BA in Political Science from UCLA, and an MA and PhD in International Relations from USC. He has served on the ARF Dashnaktsutyun Bureau, the highest executive body of the Organization, and has been a member, and chairman of the ARF Western US Central Committee. In 2019, he helped establish the Pan Armenian Council in the Western US, and has authored many articles which have appeared in professional periodicals as well as the Armenian press.
Hosts
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 58 | Recorded: April 14, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210417.html</description><googleplay:description>Armenians at Crossroads - 04/17/2021
Topics:
- The Last Few Years in Armenian Politics
- Thoughts on the Second War in Artsakh
- What is the Role of the Diaspora?
- How do we get back on our Feet?
- Thoughts on the Current Rift in the ARF
Guest
- Dr. Viken Hovsepian holds a BA in Political Science from UCLA, and an MA and PhD in International Relations from USC. He has served on the ARF Dashnaktsutyun Bureau, the highest executive body of the Organization, and has been a member, and chairman of the ARF Western US Central Committee. In 2019, he helped establish the Pan Armenian Council in the Western US, and has authored many articles which have appeared in professional periodicals as well as the Armenian press.
Hosts
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Asbed Bedrossian
Episode 58 | Recorded: April 14, 2021
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210417.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8350631-armenians-at-crossroads-a-conversation-with-dr-viken-hovsepian-ep-58-04-17-2021.mp3" length="50769593" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:10:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pashinyan goes to Moscow | Elections | POW debacle | Covid Update | Economy (Ep #57) - Apr 11, 2021
[EP57]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/57-mr-pashinyan-goes-to-moscow-election-politics-the-pow-debacle-a-coronavirus-update-the-state-of-the-economy-ep-57-apr-11-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 04:07:38 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8325952-mr-pashinyan-goes-to-moscow-election-politics-the-pow-debacle-a-coronavirus-update-the-state-of-the-economy-ep-57-apr-11-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan goes to Moscow | Elections | POW debacle | Covid Update | Economy (Ep #57) - Apr 11, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 11, 2021

Topics:

- Mr. Pashinyan goes to Moscow
- Election Politics
- The POW debacle
- A Coronavirus Update
- The State of the Economy


Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian

Hosts:
- Asbed...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 11, 2021
Topics:
- Mr. Pashinyan goes to Moscow
- Election Politics
- The POW debacle
- A Coronavirus Update
- The State of the Economy
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 57 | Recorded: April 12, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 11, 2021
Topics:
- Mr. Pashinyan goes to Moscow
- Election Politics
- The POW debacle
- A Coronavirus Update
- The State of the Economy
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 57 | Recorded: April 12, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 11, 2021
Topics:
- Mr. Pashinyan goes to Moscow
- Election Politics
- The POW debacle
- A Coronavirus Update
- The State of the Economy
Guests:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Episode 57 | Recorded: April 12, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8325952-mr-pashinyan-goes-to-moscow-election-politics-the-pow-debacle-a-coronavirus-update-the-state-of-the-economy-ep-57-apr-11-2021.mp3" length="43750494" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:00:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Kocharyan Case | Electoral reforms | New Gallup Poll | Ukraine heating Up | (Ep #56) - Apr 4, 2021
[EP56]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/56-kocharyan-case-electoral-reforms-new-gallup-poll-ukraine-heating-up-ep-56-apr-4-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2021 03:07:13 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8273315-kocharyan-case-electoral-reforms-new-gallup-poll-ukraine-heating-up-ep-56-apr-4-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Kocharyan Case | Electoral reforms | New Gallup Poll | Ukraine heating Up | (Ep #56) - Apr 4, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 4, 2021

Topics:
* Kocharyan’s Prosecutors Won’t Go Away
* Snap Electoral Reforms
* New Gallup poll
* What’s Going on in Ukraine?

Guests
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan

Hosts
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 4, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan’s Prosecutors Won’t Go Away
* Snap Electoral Reforms
* New Gallup poll
* What’s Going on in Ukraine?
Guests
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210404.html
Episode 56 | Recorded: April 4, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 4, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan’s Prosecutors Won’t Go Away
* Snap Electoral Reforms
* New Gallup poll
* What’s Going on in Ukraine?
Guests
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210404.html
Episode 56 | Recorded: April 4, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - April 4, 2021
Topics:
* Kocharyan’s Prosecutors Won’t Go Away
* Snap Electoral Reforms
* New Gallup poll
* What’s Going on in Ukraine?
Guests
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210404.html
Episode 56 | Recorded: April 4, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8273315-kocharyan-case-electoral-reforms-new-gallup-poll-ukraine-heating-up-ep-56-apr-4-2021.mp3" length="34915587" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:48:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>National Security | General Staff | Armed Forces | Defense Budget | Syunik (Ep #55) - Mar 28, 2021
[EP55]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/55-national-security-general-staff-armed-forces-defense-budget-syunik-ep-55-mar-28-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 02:06:43 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8230492-national-security-general-staff-armed-forces-defense-budget-syunik-ep-55-mar-28-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><itunes:title>National Security | General Staff | Armed Forces | Defense Budget | Syunik (Ep #55) - Mar 28, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 28, 2021

Topics:
* What’s Going on with the Armed Forces?
    * Turkey: Enemy No More?
    * What Just Happened in the General Staff?
    * Morale and Readiness of the Armed Forces
    * The Defense Budget
*...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 28, 2021
Topics:
* What’s Going on with the Armed Forces?
* Turkey: Enemy No More?
* What Just Happened in the General Staff?
* Morale and Readiness of the Armed Forces
* The Defense Budget
* Report from Syunik
Guests
- George Tabakian
- Karen Vrtanesyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210328.html
Episode 55 | Recorded: March 28, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 28, 2021
Topics:
* What’s Going on with the Armed Forces?
* Turkey: Enemy No More?
* What Just Happened in the General Staff?
* Morale and Readiness of the Armed Forces
* The Defense Budget
* Report from Syunik
Guests
- George Tabakian
- Karen Vrtanesyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210328.html
Episode 55 | Recorded: March 28, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 28, 2021
Topics:
* What’s Going on with the Armed Forces?
* Turkey: Enemy No More?
* What Just Happened in the General Staff?
* Morale and Readiness of the Armed Forces
* The Defense Budget
* Report from Syunik
Guests
- George Tabakian
- Karen Vrtanesyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210328.html
Episode 55 | Recorded: March 28, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8230492-national-security-general-staff-armed-forces-defense-budget-syunik-ep-55-mar-28-2021.mp3" length="37543056" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Early Elections on June 20th | Gas through Azerbaijan | Military Exercises | (Ep #54) - 03/21/2021
[EP54]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/54-emil-sanamyan-david-davidian-early-elections-on-june-20th-gas-through-azerbaijan-military-exercises/</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8192528-early-elections-on-june-20th-gas-through-azerbaijan-military-exercises-ep-54-03-21-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Early Elections on June 20th | Gas through Azerbaijan | Military Exercises | (Ep #54) - 03/21/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 21, 2021

Topics:
- Snap On - June 20th!
- Gas Through Azerbaijan
- Military Exercises by Armenia and Azerbaijan

Guests
- David Davidian
- Emil Sanamyan

Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian

Website:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 21, 2021
Topics:
- Snap On - June 20th!
- Gas Through Azerbaijan
- Military Exercises by Armenia and Azerbaijan
Guests
- David Davidian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210321.html
Episode 54 | Recorded: March 21, 2021</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 21, 2021
Topics:
- Snap On - June 20th!
- Gas Through Azerbaijan
- Military Exercises by Armenia and Azerbaijan
Guests
- David Davidian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210321.html
Episode 54 | Recorded: March 21, 2021</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - March 21, 2021
Topics:
- Snap On - June 20th!
- Gas Through Azerbaijan
- Military Exercises by Armenia and Azerbaijan
Guests
- David Davidian
- Emil Sanamyan
Hosts
- Hovik Manucharyan
- Asbed Bedrossian
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210321.html
Episode 54 | Recorded: March 21, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8192528-early-elections-on-june-20th-gas-through-azerbaijan-military-exercises-ep-54-03-21-2021.mp3" length="28503257" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Latest IRI Poll Results | Armen Grigoryan Interview | Snap On, Snap Off (Ep #53) - 03/14/2021
[EP53]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/53-latest-iri-poll-results-armen-grigoryan-interview-snap-on-snap-off-ep-53-03-14-2021/</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8147871-latest-iri-poll-results-armen-grigoryan-interview-snap-on-snap-off-ep-53-03-14-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Latest IRI Poll Results | Armen Grigoryan Interview | Snap On, Snap Off (Ep #53) - 03/14/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics:
- Newly Released IRI Poll Results
- Armen Grigoryan’s Interview
- Snap On, Snap Off!

Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧

Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Newly Released IRI Poll Results
- Armen Grigoryan’s Interview
- Snap On, Snap Off!
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210314.html
Episode 53 | Recorded on March 14, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Newly Released IRI Poll Results
- Armen Grigoryan’s Interview
- Snap On, Snap Off!
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210314.html
Episode 53 | Recorded on March 14, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Newly Released IRI Poll Results
- Armen Grigoryan’s Interview
- Snap On, Snap Off!
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210314.html
Episode 53 | Recorded on March 14, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8147871-latest-iri-poll-results-armen-grigoryan-interview-snap-on-snap-off-ep-53-03-14-2021.mp3" length="30354911" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Iskander &amp; Relations with Russia | Attempted Coup? | Opposition | Boeing 737 Hijacked? (Ep #52)
[EP52]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/52-david-davidian-george-tabakian-iskander-relations-with-russia-attempted-coup-opposition-boeing-737-hijacked/</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2021 23:18:20 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8049850-iskander-relations-with-russia-attempted-coup-opposition-boeing-737-hijacked-ep-52.mp3?blob_id=36169079</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Iskander &amp; Relations with Russia | Attempted Coup? | Opposition | Boeing 737 Hijacked? (Ep #52)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟐 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟖, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
- Wait, Did Armenia Use the Iskander to Blow Up its Relations With Russia?
- Wait, Was There a Coup?
- The Opposition Picks up Steam
- Wait, was The 737 Hijacked?

Guests:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟐 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟖, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Wait, Did Armenia Use the Iskander to Blow Up its Relations With Russia?
- Wait, Was There a Coup?
- The Opposition Picks up Steam
- Wait, was The 737 Hijacked?
Guests:
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210228.html
Episode 52 | Recorded: February 28, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟐 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟖, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Wait, Did Armenia Use the Iskander to Blow Up its Relations With Russia?
- Wait, Was There a Coup?
- The Opposition Picks up Steam
- Wait, was The 737 Hijacked?
Guests:
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210228.html
Episode 52 | Recorded: February 28, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟐 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟖, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Wait, Did Armenia Use the Iskander to Blow Up its Relations With Russia?
- Wait, Was There a Coup?
- The Opposition Picks up Steam
- Wait, was The 737 Hijacked?
Guests:
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210228.html
Episode 52 | Recorded: February 28, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8049850-iskander-relations-with-russia-attempted-coup-opposition-boeing-737-hijacked-ep-52.mp3?blob_id=36169079" length="35562861" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:49:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Sargsyan Interview | Criminalizing Defamation | Martial Law? | Protests 2/20/21 | Govsagan (Ep #51)
[EP51]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/51-sargsyan-interview-criminalizing-defamation-appointments-during-martial-law-opp-protests-on-feb-20-govsagan-in-the-end-ep-51/</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 02:07:32 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8020192-sargsyan-interview-criminalizing-defamation-appointments-during-martial-law-opp-protests-on-feb-20-govsagan-in-the-end-ep-51.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Sargsyan Interview | Criminalizing Defamation | Martial Law? | Protests 2/20/21 | Govsagan (Ep #51)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟏 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
* President Sargsyan’s Interview
* Legislation to Criminalize Defamation of Government Officials
* Appointment of Acting Governors and Mayors during Martial Law
* Opposition...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟏 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* President Sargsyan’s Interview
* Legislation to Criminalize Defamation of Government Officials
* Appointment of Acting Governors and Mayors during Martial Law
* Opposition Protests on Feb 20
* Govsagan, in the end
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 @asbedk
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧 @armoland
- @𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥_𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 @alenzam99
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧 @Qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210221.html
Episode 51 | Recorded: February 21, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟏 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* President Sargsyan’s Interview
* Legislation to Criminalize Defamation of Government Officials
* Appointment of Acting Governors and Mayors during Martial Law
* Opposition Protests on Feb 20
* Govsagan, in the end
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 @asbedk
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧 @armoland
- @𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥_𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 @alenzam99
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧 @Qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210221.html
Episode 51 | Recorded: February 21, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟓𝟏 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛 𝟐𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* President Sargsyan’s Interview
* Legislation to Criminalize Defamation of Government Officials
* Appointment of Acting Governors and Mayors during Martial Law
* Opposition Protests on Feb 20
* Govsagan, in the end
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 @asbedk
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧 @armoland
- @𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥_𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 @alenzam99
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧 @Qubriq
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210221.html
Episode 51 | Recorded: February 21, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8020192-sargsyan-interview-criminalizing-defamation-appointments-during-martial-law-opp-protests-on-feb-20-govsagan-in-the-end-ep-51.mp3" length="37412133" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:51:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenia's Earthquake Preparedness with Dr. Armen Der Kiureghian - (Ep #50) - 02/21/2021
[EP50]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/50-armen-der-giureghian-armenia-s-earthquake-preparedness-with/</link><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8003896-armenia-s-earthquake-preparedness-with-dr-armen-der-kiureghian-ep-50.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenia's Earthquake Preparedness with Dr. Armen Der Kiureghian - (Ep #50) - 02/21/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚'𝐬 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 - 𝟎𝟐/𝟐𝟏/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics:
- Was it an Earthquake?
- Have Construction Codes Improved since 1988?
- Do Contractors Comply with Regulations?
- Is Armenia Ready for The Big One?
- Is there Earthquake Preparedness in...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚'𝐬 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 - 𝟎𝟐/𝟐𝟏/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Was it an Earthquake?
- Have Construction Codes Improved since 1988?
- Do Contractors Comply with Regulations?
- Is Armenia Ready for The Big One?
- Is there Earthquake Preparedness in Armenia?
- What Conversations are not Happening?
Guest:
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐫 𝐆𝐢𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a structural and civil engineering professor at UC Berkeley with research focus on earthquake engineering. He is a co-founder and was president of the American University of Armenia from 2014 until 2019.
Host:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210221.html
Episode 50 | Recorded: February 19, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚'𝐬 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 - 𝟎𝟐/𝟐𝟏/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Was it an Earthquake?
- Have Construction Codes Improved since 1988?
- Do Contractors Comply with Regulations?
- Is Armenia Ready for The Big One?
- Is there Earthquake Preparedness in Armenia?
- What Conversations are not Happening?
Guest:
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐫 𝐆𝐢𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a structural and civil engineering professor at UC Berkeley with research focus on earthquake engineering. He is a co-founder and was president of the American University of Armenia from 2014 until 2019.
Host:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210221.html
Episode 50 | Recorded: February 19, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚'𝐬 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐪𝐮𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 - 𝟎𝟐/𝟐𝟏/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics:
- Was it an Earthquake?
- Have Construction Codes Improved since 1988?
- Do Contractors Comply with Regulations?
- Is Armenia Ready for The Big One?
- Is there Earthquake Preparedness in Armenia?
- What Conversations are not Happening?
Guest:
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐫 𝐆𝐢𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧 is a structural and civil engineering professor at UC Berkeley with research focus on earthquake engineering. He is a co-founder and was president of the American University of Armenia from 2014 until 2019.
Host:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210221.html
Episode 50 | Recorded: February 19, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/8003896-armenia-s-earthquake-preparedness-with-dr-armen-der-kiureghian-ep-50.mp3" length="12857325" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:17:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Syunik Confidential | Developments in Artsakh | Snap elections flip flop (Ep #49)
[EP49]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/49-syunik-confidential-developments-in-artsakh-snap-elections-flip-flop-ep-49/</link><pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7917895-syunik-confidential-developments-in-artsakh-snap-elections-flip-flop-ep-49.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Syunik Confidential | Developments in Artsakh | Snap elections flip flop (Ep #49)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟗 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
- Syunik Confidential 
- Developments in Artsakh 
- Snap elections flip flop 

Guests:
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧

Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟗 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Syunik Confidential
- Developments in Artsakh
- Snap elections flip flop
Guests:
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210214.html
Episode 49 | Recorded: February 14, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟗 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Syunik Confidential
- Developments in Artsakh
- Snap elections flip flop
Guests:
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210214.html
Episode 49 | Recorded: February 14, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟗 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟏𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Syunik Confidential
- Developments in Artsakh
- Snap elections flip flop
Guests:
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210214.html
Episode 49 | Recorded: February 14, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7917895-syunik-confidential-developments-in-artsakh-snap-elections-flip-flop-ep-49.mp3" length="28066527" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:38:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Lost in Artsakh | Law on Mass Media | Political Scene in Yerevan | Economic Outlook (Ep #48)
[EP48]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/48-lost-in-artsakh-law-on-mass-media-political-scene-in-yerevan-economic-outlook-ep-48/</link><pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2021 04:55:12 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7762591-lost-in-artsakh-law-on-mass-media-political-scene-in-yerevan-economic-outlook-ep-48.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Lost in Artsakh | Law on Mass Media | Political Scene in Yerevan | Economic Outlook (Ep #48)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟖 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏


Topics Covered:
- Lost in Artsakh, Thirsty in Syunik
- Amending the Law on Mass Media
- Update on the Political Scene in Yerevan
- Rising National Debt, Inflation and Interest Rates...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟖 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Lost in Artsakh, Thirsty in Syunik
- Amending the Law on Mass Media
- Update on the Political Scene in Yerevan
- Rising National Debt, Inflation and Interest Rates
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210207.html
Recorded: February 7, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟖 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Lost in Artsakh, Thirsty in Syunik
- Amending the Law on Mass Media
- Update on the Political Scene in Yerevan
- Rising National Debt, Inflation and Interest Rates
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210207.html
Recorded: February 7, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟖 - 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Lost in Artsakh, Thirsty in Syunik
- Amending the Law on Mass Media
- Update on the Political Scene in Yerevan
- Rising National Debt, Inflation and Interest Rates
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210207.html
Recorded: February 7, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7762591-lost-in-artsakh-law-on-mass-media-political-scene-in-yerevan-economic-outlook-ep-48.mp3" length="26153479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Constitutional Amendment | Opp Rising | Zarif Tour | Virus Update | Armenia Fund &amp; the Dram (Ep #47)
[EP47]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/47-constitutional-amendment-opp-rising-zarif-tour-virus-update-armenia-fund-the-dram-ep-47/</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 00:17:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7626577-constitutional-amendment-opp-rising-zarif-tour-virus-update-armenia-fund-the-dram-ep-47.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Constitutional Amendment | Opp Rising | Zarif Tour | Virus Update | Armenia Fund &amp; the Dram (Ep #47)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟑𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
- Another Constitutional Amendment?
- Opposition Rising: New Bottle, Old Wine?
- Iran’s FM Zarif on a Tour de Six
- State of the Virus in Armenia
- Armenia Fund Used to Shore up the...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟑𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Another Constitutional Amendment?
- Opposition Rising: New Bottle, Old Wine?
- Iran’s FM Zarif on a Tour de Six
- State of the Virus in Armenia
- Armenia Fund Used to Shore up the Dram?
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210131.html
Episode 47 | Recorded on January 31, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟑𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Another Constitutional Amendment?
- Opposition Rising: New Bottle, Old Wine?
- Iran’s FM Zarif on a Tour de Six
- State of the Virus in Armenia
- Armenia Fund Used to Shore up the Dram?
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210131.html
Episode 47 | Recorded on January 31, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟑𝟏, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Another Constitutional Amendment?
- Opposition Rising: New Bottle, Old Wine?
- Iran’s FM Zarif on a Tour de Six
- State of the Virus in Armenia
- Armenia Fund Used to Shore up the Dram?
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210131.html
Episode 47 | Recorded on January 31, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7626577-constitutional-amendment-opp-rising-zarif-tour-virus-update-armenia-fund-the-dram-ep-47.mp3" length="23910944" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:33:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan (Ep #46) - 01/31/2021
[EP46]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/46-ruben-muradyan-serving-in-the-44-day-war-01-31-2021-ep-46/</link><pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:52:15 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7602388-conversation-with-ruben-muradyan-01-31-2021-ep-46.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan (Ep #46) - 01/31/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan -  Jan. 31, 2021

Experience being called up and participating in the war

Ethics of a security professional. What to do when a government member asks you to conduct...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan - Jan. 31, 2021
Experience being called up and participating in the war
Ethics of a security professional. What to do when a government member asks you to conduct greyhat (potentially unlawful or unethical) security?
On the 2nd day of the war Ruben was called up to the army as part of an infantry company.
- Can you describe your experience?
- How were you drafted? And where did you serve?
- What specialty did you have in the army?
- What can you tell us about what you saw?
- Why did we lose the war?
Cyber Incidents During Artsakh War
All modern wars are accompanied by cyber-activities. Can we talk about what this looked like during the 44-day war?
Some major potential security incidents during the war:
- Gov.am and Primeminister.am defacement
- MFA compromise (or maybe it's part of a larger thing)
- Metsamor NPP compromise
Out of tens of incidents registered by security experts, only a few were publicly acknowledged by the Armenian government and the results of such incidents were not published. Incidents varied and included defacement, denial of service attacks, leaks of personal information, as well as leaks of potentially sensitive data apparently from government agencies such as the foreign ministry and national security service.
What was the potential for offensive cyber-security operations by Azerbaijan to be leveraged to achieve results directly on the battlefield? How about radio-electronic warfare itself?
Is the lack of public response due to secrecy or is there a deeper issue such as being able to analyze incidents fully and understand their full impact?
Lessons Learned
Given Armenia’s need to restore military readiness especially in the areas of cyber-security, what are some key lessons for the Armenian side?
- Institutionalized CERT that is independent from government.
- Cyber-security divisions in all government institutions.
- Acceptance and implementation of widely accepted NIST standards
- Prioritize the most easy-to-implement steps first.
Guests
- 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210131.html
Episode 46 | Recorded on January 19, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan - Jan. 31, 2021
Experience being called up and participating in the war
Ethics of a security professional. What to do when a government member asks you to conduct greyhat (potentially unlawful or unethical) security?
On the 2nd day of the war Ruben was called up to the army as part of an infantry company.
- Can you describe your experience?
- How were you drafted? And where did you serve?
- What specialty did you have in the army?
- What can you tell us about what you saw?
- Why did we lose the war?
Cyber Incidents During Artsakh War
All modern wars are accompanied by cyber-activities. Can we talk about what this looked like during the 44-day war?
Some major potential security incidents during the war:
- Gov.am and Primeminister.am defacement
- MFA compromise (or maybe it's part of a larger thing)
- Metsamor NPP compromise
Out of tens of incidents registered by security experts, only a few were publicly acknowledged by the Armenian government and the results of such incidents were not published. Incidents varied and included defacement, denial of service attacks, leaks of personal information, as well as leaks of potentially sensitive data apparently from government agencies such as the foreign ministry and national security service.
What was the potential for offensive cyber-security operations by Azerbaijan to be leveraged to achieve results directly on the battlefield? How about radio-electronic warfare itself?
Is the lack of public response due to secrecy or is there a deeper issue such as being able to analyze incidents fully and understand their full impact?
Lessons Learned
Given Armenia’s need to restore military readiness especially in the areas of cyber-security, what are some key lessons for the Armenian side?
- Institutionalized CERT that is independent from government.
- Cyber-security divisions in all government institutions.
- Acceptance and implementation of widely accepted NIST standards
- Prioritize the most easy-to-implement steps first.
Guests
- 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210131.html
Episode 46 | Recorded on January 19, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Armenian IT Security and Readiness During Wartime - with Ruben Muradyan - Jan. 31, 2021
Experience being called up and participating in the war
Ethics of a security professional. What to do when a government member asks you to conduct greyhat (potentially unlawful or unethical) security?
On the 2nd day of the war Ruben was called up to the army as part of an infantry company.
- Can you describe your experience?
- How were you drafted? And where did you serve?
- What specialty did you have in the army?
- What can you tell us about what you saw?
- Why did we lose the war?
Cyber Incidents During Artsakh War
All modern wars are accompanied by cyber-activities. Can we talk about what this looked like during the 44-day war?
Some major potential security incidents during the war:
- Gov.am and Primeminister.am defacement
- MFA compromise (or maybe it's part of a larger thing)
- Metsamor NPP compromise
Out of tens of incidents registered by security experts, only a few were publicly acknowledged by the Armenian government and the results of such incidents were not published. Incidents varied and included defacement, denial of service attacks, leaks of personal information, as well as leaks of potentially sensitive data apparently from government agencies such as the foreign ministry and national security service.
What was the potential for offensive cyber-security operations by Azerbaijan to be leveraged to achieve results directly on the battlefield? How about radio-electronic warfare itself?
Is the lack of public response due to secrecy or is there a deeper issue such as being able to analyze incidents fully and understand their full impact?
Lessons Learned
Given Armenia’s need to restore military readiness especially in the areas of cyber-security, what are some key lessons for the Armenian side?
- Institutionalized CERT that is independent from government.
- Cyber-security divisions in all government institutions.
- Acceptance and implementation of widely accepted NIST standards
- Prioritize the most easy-to-implement steps first.
Guests
- 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210131.html
Episode 46 | Recorded on January 19, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7602388-conversation-with-ruben-muradyan-01-31-2021-ep-46.mp3" length="29729350" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Supreme Judicial Council | Turk-Azerbaijani Military Exercises in Kars | Blinken on Armenia (Ep #45)
[EP45]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/45-supreme-judicial-council-turk-azerbaijani-military-exercises-in-kars-blinken-on-armenia/</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:13:12 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7490332-supreme-judicial-council-turk-azerbaijani-military-exercises-in-kars-blinken-on-armenia.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Supreme Judicial Council | Turk-Azerbaijani Military Exercises in Kars | Blinken on Armenia (Ep #45)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟐𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
* Supreme Judicial Council Appointments
* Turkish-Azerbaijan Military Exercises in Kars Region
* Incoming US Secretary of State Tony Blinken on Armenia

Guests
- 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐇𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟐𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* Supreme Judicial Council Appointments
* Turkish-Azerbaijan Military Exercises in Kars Region
* Incoming US Secretary of State Tony Blinken on Armenia
Guests
- 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐇𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210124.html
Episode 45 | Recorded on January 24, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟐𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* Supreme Judicial Council Appointments
* Turkish-Azerbaijan Military Exercises in Kars Region
* Incoming US Secretary of State Tony Blinken on Armenia
Guests
- 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐇𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210124.html
Episode 45 | Recorded on January 24, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟐𝟒, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
* Supreme Judicial Council Appointments
* Turkish-Azerbaijan Military Exercises in Kars Region
* Incoming US Secretary of State Tony Blinken on Armenia
Guests
- 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐇𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210124.html
Episode 45 | Recorded on January 24, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7490332-supreme-judicial-council-turk-azerbaijani-military-exercises-in-kars-blinken-on-armenia.mp3" length="24148840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:33:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armen Ashotyan - Opposition Talks | Ep 44, Jan 19, 2021
[EP44]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/44-opposition-talks-armen-ashotyan-of-the-rpa-hhk-01-19-2021/</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 21:29:42 -0700</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7387702-opposition-talks-armen-ashotyan-of-the-rpa-hhk-01-19-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Bedrossian,
Hovik Manucharyan,</itunes:author><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armen Ashotyan - Opposition Talks | Ep 44, Jan 19, 2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: January 17, 2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
- What took place in 2018?
- Why did RPA support Vazgen Manukyan as PM candidate?
- Nov. 9/10 ceasefire agreement & Jan 11 statement
- Is the RPA truly serious about removing Pashinyan? Why hasn’t the opposition mobilized more people onto the streets?
- Lessons learned from Dec. 2018 elections.
Episode 44 | Recorded on January 17, 2021</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
- What took place in 2018?
- Why did RPA support Vazgen Manukyan as PM candidate?
- Nov. 9/10 ceasefire agreement & Jan 11 statement
- Is the RPA truly serious about removing Pashinyan? Why hasn’t the opposition mobilized more people onto the streets?
- Lessons learned from Dec. 2018 elections.
Episode 44 | Recorded on January 17, 2021</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Armen Ashotyan](/guest/ashotyan), MP, VP Republican Party of Armenia (HHK)
#### Topics:
- What took place in 2018?
- Why did RPA support Vazgen Manukyan as PM candidate?
- Nov. 9/10 ceasefire agreement & Jan 11 statement
- Is the RPA truly serious about removing Pashinyan? Why hasn’t the opposition mobilized more people onto the streets?
- Lessons learned from Dec. 2018 elections.
Episode 44 | Recorded on January 17, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 id="main-topics-addressed">Main Topics Addressed</h1>
<ul>
<li>It’s been just over two years since the 2018 elections that resulted in the RPA, the Republican Party of Armenia, became an extra-parliamentary party for the first time in over two decades. There have been many questions about what exactly happened in 2018. What happened in April-May, what took place in October, and then what happened during the elections in December?</li>
<li>Vazgen Manukyan has been critical of foreign-funded Western NGOs and during his various speeches he has talked about more regulation for such funding. Does that also represent the RPA’s position? Where does the RPA stand on these NGOs?</li>
<li>The Homeland Salvation Movement has accused Nikol Pashinyan of treason for signing the capitulation agreement of Nov 9/10. We also heard your movement raise alarm signals prior to Pashinyan’s trip to Moscon on January 11, with the movement warning that:</li>
<li>“any decision taken against the interests of Armenia and Artsakh will be recognized as illegitimate, will be rejected by the Armenian people, will not be ratified and will be annulled after the change of power.”</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="key-questions-discussed">Key Questions Discussed</h1>
<ul>
<li>Do you believe that the January 11 agreement to open rail communications was against the interests of Armenia or Artsakh?</li>
<li>If, as the opposition claims, Pashinyan truly is a traitor then many, even among your supporters, are wondering why the movement isn’t more active in protesting or removing Pashinyan? Why aren’t there more people in the streets?</li>
<li>What is your party’s position on the electoral reform currently being discussed in the NA? On that note why did the RPA not vote for the government’s proposal to reduce the threshold for parties and electoral alliances to 4% and 6% respectively back in 2018?</li>
<li>What were the lessons learned from the results of the December 2018 elections for the RPA?  What is your party’s vision for Armenia and for RPA’s role in that new Armenia, over the next 5-10 years?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/44/thumbnail-44.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/44/thumbnail-44.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7387702-opposition-talks-armen-ashotyan-of-the-rpa-hhk-01-19-2021.mp3" length="30539479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:21</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Pashinyan in Moscow | Azerbaijan's Geo-politics | Baku Domestic Politics | Baku's Losses (Ep. 43)
[EP43]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/43-pashinyan-moscow-trip-azerbaijan-s-geo-political-situation-domestic-politics-in-baku-azerbaijan-s-losses-in-the-war-ep-43/</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 19:31:52 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7364506-pashinyan-moscow-trip-azerbaijan-s-geo-political-situation-domestic-politics-in-baku-azerbaijan-s-losses-in-the-war-ep-43.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pashinyan in Moscow | Azerbaijan's Geo-politics | Baku Domestic Politics | Baku's Losses (Ep. 43)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
- Outcomes from Nikol Pashinyan’s trip to Moscow
- What is Azerbaijan’s geo-political situation after the war?
- Domestic politics in Baku
- Azerbaijan’s losses from the second war in...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Outcomes from Nikol Pashinyan’s trip to Moscow
- What is Azerbaijan’s geo-political situation after the war?
- Domestic politics in Baku
- Azerbaijan’s losses from the second war in Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐄𝐝𝐠𝐚𝐫 𝐄𝐥𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210117.html
Recorded: January 17, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Outcomes from Nikol Pashinyan’s trip to Moscow
- What is Azerbaijan’s geo-political situation after the war?
- Domestic politics in Baku
- Azerbaijan’s losses from the second war in Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐄𝐝𝐠𝐚𝐫 𝐄𝐥𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210117.html
Recorded: January 17, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟕, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- Outcomes from Nikol Pashinyan’s trip to Moscow
- What is Azerbaijan’s geo-political situation after the war?
- Domestic politics in Baku
- Azerbaijan’s losses from the second war in Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐄𝐝𝐠𝐚𝐫 𝐄𝐥𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210117.html
Recorded: January 17, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7364506-pashinyan-moscow-trip-azerbaijan-s-geo-political-situation-domestic-politics-in-baku-azerbaijan-s-losses-in-the-war-ep-43.mp3" length="30795146" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Former Artsakh Ombudsman Ruben Melikyan (Ep #42) - 01/18/2021
[EP42]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/42-ruben-melikyan-human-rights-armenian-pow-sjc-border-demarcation-november-2020-agreement-20210118/</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7347733-former-artsakh-ombudsman-ruben-melikyan-ep-42-01-18-2021.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Former Artsakh Ombudsman Ruben Melikyan (Ep #42) - 01/18/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network Groong - January 18, 2021
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Former Artsakh Ombudsman Ruben Melikyan - 01/18/2021
We’ll be discussing various legal and human-rights topics within the context of recent developments in Armenia.
#### Guest:
* 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧 was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman and prior to that rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO.
#### Topics:
* Why are there Armenian POWs still in Azerbaijan so long after the Nov. 9 ceasefire agreement?
* On Constitutional Court judges being forced to resign
* On Parliament’s endorsement of Gagik Jahangiryan’s appointment to the Supreme Judicial Council, and legal reforms
* On the realignment of the Armenia-Azerbaijan line of contact, border demarcation and delineation, and verbal agreements
Episode 42 recorded on January 16, 2021</itunes:summary><description>Former Artsakh Ombudsman Ruben Melikyan - 01/18/2021
We’ll be discussing various legal and human-rights topics within the context of recent developments in Armenia.
#### Guest:
* 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧 was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman and prior to that rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO.
#### Topics:
* Why are there Armenian POWs still in Azerbaijan so long after the Nov. 9 ceasefire agreement?
* On Constitutional Court judges being forced to resign
* On Parliament’s endorsement of Gagik Jahangiryan’s appointment to the Supreme Judicial Council, and legal reforms
* On the realignment of the Armenia-Azerbaijan line of contact, border demarcation and delineation, and verbal agreements
Episode 42 recorded on January 16, 2021</description><googleplay:description>Former Artsakh Ombudsman Ruben Melikyan - 01/18/2021
We’ll be discussing various legal and human-rights topics within the context of recent developments in Armenia.
#### Guest:
* 𝐑𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐧 𝐌𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐲𝐚𝐧 was formerly Artsakh’s Human Rights Ombudsman and prior to that rector of the Justice Academy of Armenia. In 2019, Melikyan co-founded and currently leads the “Path of Law” NGO.
#### Topics:
* Why are there Armenian POWs still in Azerbaijan so long after the Nov. 9 ceasefire agreement?
* On Constitutional Court judges being forced to resign
* On Parliament’s endorsement of Gagik Jahangiryan’s appointment to the Supreme Judicial Council, and legal reforms
* On the realignment of the Armenia-Azerbaijan line of contact, border demarcation and delineation, and verbal agreements
Episode 42 recorded on January 16, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="discussion">Discussion</h2>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong>
As a former human rights ombudsman in Karabakh, what has been your experience on the topic of prisoners of war?</p>
<p>Point 8 of the Nov 9 statement governs the exchange of prisoners and we’ve previously heard that they’re supposed to be exchanged based on the principle of all for all, meaning Armenia hands over all of prisoners in its custody and Azerbaijan vice-versa.</p>
<p>The issue of POW exchange is also codified in international conventions, such as the Geneva Convention.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Why in your opinion are we still talking about this issue today?</li>
<li>Do we know how many Armenians are in Azerbaijani custody?</li>
</ul>
<p>We’ve seen reports from Azerbaijan that they intend to treat these remaining prisoners not as POWs but as terrorists, or saboteurs, or file other criminal charges against them, which implies a different set of rules in handling them.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What legal recourse does Armenia have in case Azerbaijan continues to pursue this route?</li>
</ul>
<p>In 2018, Nikol Pashinyan promised to release all political prisoners in Armenia. Since then, his administration has stated that Armenia no longer has political prisoners.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your assessment about the state of political prisoners and politically motivated prosecution in Armenia?</li>
</ul>
<p>After the January 11 agreement announced in Moscow, the Pashinyan administration seems to be switching its focus to internal affairs and specifically legal reforms.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Could you tell us what the government plans to do and what is your opinion on the process? Is now the right time to conduct such reforms?</li>
</ul>
<p>On January 13, the parliamentary majority, <strong>My Step</strong> faction announced that they will unanimously endorse Gagik Jahangiryan as a member of the Supreme Judicial Council.</p>
<p><strong>Question:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your opinion on this appointment and where do you think the government is going with this?</li>
</ul>
<p>Earlier this year, the Armenian government (after a lengthy process) was able to force the retirement of three constitutional court judges as well as replacing the head of the constitutional court Hrayr Tovmasyan. At least some of the judges have applied to the ECHR claiming their rights were violated.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your opinion about this entire process? What would happen if they won the ECHR case?</li>
<li>What is your opinion on the realignment of the Armenia-Azerbaijan line of contact based on oral agreements between Pashinyan and Aliyev?</li>
<li>Can such a verbal agreement have any legal force?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pashinyan says that this is not demarcation or delineation, however, Tigran Avinyan has used the word “demarcation” in the past, and our own experts have been unequivocal about it: that there is a process of border demarcation and delineation in progress, the priority of which today is unclear or at least unstated.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Your thoughts?</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>That concludes this <strong>Conversations On Groong</strong> episode**. **As always we invite your feedback, Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts. Don’t forget to subscribe to us on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7347733-former-artsakh-ombudsman-ruben-melikyan-ep-42-01-18-2021.mp3" length="13693105" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:18:57</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Conversation with Aram Vardevanyan (Ep #41) - 01/13/2021
[EP41]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/41-conversation-with-aram-vardevanyan/</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7283497-conversation-with-aram-vardevanyan.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Conversation with Aram Vardevanyan (Ep #41) - 01/13/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧  - 𝟎𝟏/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Since Nikol Pashinyan came to power in 2018, and prior to the Artsakh war of 2020, issues around the Armenian constitution and constitutional court have been in the center of public attention....
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Since Nikol Pashinyan came to power in 2018, and prior to the Artsakh war of 2020, issues around the Armenian constitution and constitutional court have been in the center of public attention. These issues have been partly fueled by one of the most prominent legal cases in recent Armenian history, the March 1 trial against Armenian president Robert Kocharyan and military leadership at the time. We'll explore issues surrounding the March 1 case, as well as legal and specifically constitutional questions related to the Nov. 9 ceasefire declaration and subsequent events.
Our guest today is:
𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is the author of over 20 scholarly articles in the field of Constitutional Law, Criminal Law and Criminal Procedural Law. He is a PhD in Law, and is a member of the Chamber of Advocates of Armenia. He’s founder and director of JP law firm and from 2011-2018 he was in state service at the Ombudsman’s office and the Constitutional Court. Vardevanyan is a member of Robert Kocharyan’s legal team.
Topics:
- About the criminal cases against Robert Kocharyan
- Is PM Pashinyan’s signing of the Nov. 9 Agreement legal?
- How can Armenia’s borders be changed?
- What is the legal process to removing the Prime Minister?
- How does diplomatic immunity work for the PM, presidents?
- The Armenian government is withholding information on the number of POWs still in Baku. Is this legally tenable?
- What are Robert Kocharyan’s future political plans?
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210113.html
Episode 41 recorded on January 12, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Since Nikol Pashinyan came to power in 2018, and prior to the Artsakh war of 2020, issues around the Armenian constitution and constitutional court have been in the center of public attention. These issues have been partly fueled by one of the most prominent legal cases in recent Armenian history, the March 1 trial against Armenian president Robert Kocharyan and military leadership at the time. We'll explore issues surrounding the March 1 case, as well as legal and specifically constitutional questions related to the Nov. 9 ceasefire declaration and subsequent events.
Our guest today is:
𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is the author of over 20 scholarly articles in the field of Constitutional Law, Criminal Law and Criminal Procedural Law. He is a PhD in Law, and is a member of the Chamber of Advocates of Armenia. He’s founder and director of JP law firm and from 2011-2018 he was in state service at the Ombudsman’s office and the Constitutional Court. Vardevanyan is a member of Robert Kocharyan’s legal team.
Topics:
- About the criminal cases against Robert Kocharyan
- Is PM Pashinyan’s signing of the Nov. 9 Agreement legal?
- How can Armenia’s borders be changed?
- What is the legal process to removing the Prime Minister?
- How does diplomatic immunity work for the PM, presidents?
- The Armenian government is withholding information on the number of POWs still in Baku. Is this legally tenable?
- What are Robert Kocharyan’s future political plans?
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210113.html
Episode 41 recorded on January 12, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Since Nikol Pashinyan came to power in 2018, and prior to the Artsakh war of 2020, issues around the Armenian constitution and constitutional court have been in the center of public attention. These issues have been partly fueled by one of the most prominent legal cases in recent Armenian history, the March 1 trial against Armenian president Robert Kocharyan and military leadership at the time. We'll explore issues surrounding the March 1 case, as well as legal and specifically constitutional questions related to the Nov. 9 ceasefire declaration and subsequent events.
Our guest today is:
𝐀𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐕𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is the author of over 20 scholarly articles in the field of Constitutional Law, Criminal Law and Criminal Procedural Law. He is a PhD in Law, and is a member of the Chamber of Advocates of Armenia. He’s founder and director of JP law firm and from 2011-2018 he was in state service at the Ombudsman’s office and the Constitutional Court. Vardevanyan is a member of Robert Kocharyan’s legal team.
Topics:
- About the criminal cases against Robert Kocharyan
- Is PM Pashinyan’s signing of the Nov. 9 Agreement legal?
- How can Armenia’s borders be changed?
- What is the legal process to removing the Prime Minister?
- How does diplomatic immunity work for the PM, presidents?
- The Armenian government is withholding information on the number of POWs still in Baku. Is this legally tenable?
- What are Robert Kocharyan’s future political plans?
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210113.html
Episode 41 recorded on January 12, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7283497-conversation-with-aram-vardevanyan.mp3" length="33979440" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:47:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>State of The Opposition | Update on Am/Az Border Positions | State of the Artsakh LoC (Ep #40)
[EP40]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/40-state-of-the-opposition-update-on-am-az-border-positions-state-of-the-artsakh-loc/</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2021 21:32:50 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7251304-state-of-the-opposition-update-on-am-az-border-positions-state-of-the-artsakh-loc.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><itunes:title>State of The Opposition | Update on Am/Az Border Positions | State of the Artsakh LoC (Ep #40)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟎 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

Topics Covered:
- The State of the Opposition and their demands
- Update on the Border Positions between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan
- The State of the Line of Contact around Artsakh

Guests
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟎 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- The State of the Opposition and their demands
- Update on the Border Positions between Armenia & Azerbaijan
- The State of the Line of Contact around Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210110.html
Recorded: January 10, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟎 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- The State of the Opposition and their demands
- Update on the Border Positions between Armenia & Azerbaijan
- The State of the Line of Contact around Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210110.html
Recorded: January 10, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟒𝟎 - 𝐉𝐚𝐧 𝟏𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
Topics Covered:
- The State of the Opposition and their demands
- Update on the Border Positions between Armenia & Azerbaijan
- The State of the Line of Contact around Artsakh
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20210110.html
Recorded: January 10, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7251304-state-of-the-opposition-update-on-am-az-border-positions-state-of-the-artsakh-loc.mp3" length="28879382" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:40:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Conversation with My Step's Maria Karapetyan (Ep #39) - 01/08/2021
[EP39]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/39-conversation-with-my-step-s-maria-karapetyan/</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2021 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7192057-conversation-with-my-step-s-maria-karapetyan.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Conversation with My Step's Maria Karapetyan (Ep #39) - 01/08/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐌𝐲 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐩'𝐬 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏

As protesters in the streets of Yerevan continue demanding the resignation of PM Nikol Pashinyan in the aftermath of the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, the ruling My Step faction seems to be...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐌𝐲 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐩'𝐬 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
As protesters in the streets of Yerevan continue demanding the resignation of PM Nikol Pashinyan in the aftermath of the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, the ruling My Step faction seems to be firmly on the side of the prime minister.
In the last week or so here at Groong we hosted representatives of various opposition parties and today we will host a representative from the ruling My Step faction to talk about the ongoing political crisis in Armenia.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the National Assembly with the My Step parliamentary group and the Civic Contract party. She is a member of the Standing Committee on the Protection of Human Rights and Public Affairs, and the Armenian Delegation to Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE PA) and heads the Armenia-Italy Parliamentary Friendship Group. Maria holds degrees in Linguistics and Intercultural Communication and European Studies from Yerevan State University, as well as a Master’s degree in Peace Studies from the University of Rome Three.
TOPICS:
- Dynamics between Civil Contract and My Step
- Was Parliament aware of about the Nov. 9 Agreement?
- Thoughts on the post-Agreement political stand-off
- Electoral Code Changes My Step is working on?
- State of the Fight Against Corruption
- Health and Humanitarian crises facing Armenia
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210108.html
Episode 39 recorded on January 5, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐌𝐲 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐩'𝐬 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
As protesters in the streets of Yerevan continue demanding the resignation of PM Nikol Pashinyan in the aftermath of the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, the ruling My Step faction seems to be firmly on the side of the prime minister.
In the last week or so here at Groong we hosted representatives of various opposition parties and today we will host a representative from the ruling My Step faction to talk about the ongoing political crisis in Armenia.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the National Assembly with the My Step parliamentary group and the Civic Contract party. She is a member of the Standing Committee on the Protection of Human Rights and Public Affairs, and the Armenian Delegation to Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE PA) and heads the Armenia-Italy Parliamentary Friendship Group. Maria holds degrees in Linguistics and Intercultural Communication and European Studies from Yerevan State University, as well as a Master’s degree in Peace Studies from the University of Rome Three.
TOPICS:
- Dynamics between Civil Contract and My Step
- Was Parliament aware of about the Nov. 9 Agreement?
- Thoughts on the post-Agreement political stand-off
- Electoral Code Changes My Step is working on?
- State of the Fight Against Corruption
- Health and Humanitarian crises facing Armenia
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210108.html
Episode 39 recorded on January 5, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐌𝐲 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐩'𝐬 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧 - 𝟎𝟏/𝟎𝟖/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏
As protesters in the streets of Yerevan continue demanding the resignation of PM Nikol Pashinyan in the aftermath of the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, the ruling My Step faction seems to be firmly on the side of the prime minister.
In the last week or so here at Groong we hosted representatives of various opposition parties and today we will host a representative from the ruling My Step faction to talk about the ongoing political crisis in Armenia.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the National Assembly with the My Step parliamentary group and the Civic Contract party. She is a member of the Standing Committee on the Protection of Human Rights and Public Affairs, and the Armenian Delegation to Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE PA) and heads the Armenia-Italy Parliamentary Friendship Group. Maria holds degrees in Linguistics and Intercultural Communication and European Studies from Yerevan State University, as well as a Master’s degree in Peace Studies from the University of Rome Three.
TOPICS:
- Dynamics between Civil Contract and My Step
- Was Parliament aware of about the Nov. 9 Agreement?
- Thoughts on the post-Agreement political stand-off
- Electoral Code Changes My Step is working on?
- State of the Fight Against Corruption
- Health and Humanitarian crises facing Armenia
Your Host:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210108.html
Episode 39 recorded on January 5, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7192057-conversation-with-my-step-s-maria-karapetyan.mp3" length="39463884" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:54:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Arevik Anapiosyan on Research in Policy Making and Implementation (Ep #38) - 01/03/2021
[EP38]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/38-arevik-anapiosyan-on-research-in-policy-making-and-implementation-ep-38/</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2021 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7116184-arevik-anapiosyan-on-research-in-policy-making-and-implementation-ep-38.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Arevik Anapiosyan on Research in Policy Making and Implementation (Ep #38) - 01/03/2021</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐑𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲 𝐌𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 (𝐄𝐩 #𝟑𝟖) - 01/03/2021

𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 is an associate professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia, where he teaches courses on post-Soviet...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐑𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲 𝐌𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 (𝐄𝐩 #𝟑𝟖) - 01/03/2021
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 is an associate professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia, where he teaches courses on post-Soviet space and the Middle East.
Talks with
𝐀𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐀𝐧𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧 is the Partnerships and Development Finance Advisor to the UN Resident Coordinator in Armenia, and has served as the Deputy Minister of Education, Science, Culture and Sport of the Republic of Armenia. She co-founded and was the Executive Director of the Institute of Public Policy think tank in Yerevan.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210103.html
Episode 38
Recorded on January 2, 2021</itunes:summary><description>𝐑𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲 𝐌𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 (𝐄𝐩 #𝟑𝟖) - 01/03/2021
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 is an associate professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia, where he teaches courses on post-Soviet space and the Middle East.
Talks with
𝐀𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐀𝐧𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧 is the Partnerships and Development Finance Advisor to the UN Resident Coordinator in Armenia, and has served as the Deputy Minister of Education, Science, Culture and Sport of the Republic of Armenia. She co-founded and was the Executive Director of the Institute of Public Policy think tank in Yerevan.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210103.html
Episode 38
Recorded on January 2, 2021</description><googleplay:description>𝐑𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐲 𝐌𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 (𝐄𝐩 #𝟑𝟖) - 01/03/2021
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 is an associate professor of political science and international relations at the American University of Armenia, where he teaches courses on post-Soviet space and the Middle East.
Talks with
𝐀𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐀𝐧𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧 is the Partnerships and Development Finance Advisor to the UN Resident Coordinator in Armenia, and has served as the Deputy Minister of Education, Science, Culture and Sport of the Republic of Armenia. She co-founded and was the Executive Director of the Institute of Public Policy think tank in Yerevan.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20210103.html
Episode 38
Recorded on January 2, 2021</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7116184-arevik-anapiosyan-on-research-in-policy-making-and-implementation-ep-38.mp3" length="28197875" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Tevan Poghosyan on Diplomacy, War and The Way Forward (#37 - Dec 29, 2020)
[EP37]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/37-tevan-poghosyan-on-diplomacy-war-and-the-way-forward-37-dec-29-2020/</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2020 04:24:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7045906-tevan-poghosyan-on-diplomacy-war-and-the-way-forward-37-dec-29-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Tevan Poghosyan on Diplomacy, War and The Way Forward (#37 - Dec 29, 2020)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Since the end of the first Nagorno-Karabakh war in 1994 and for over quarter of a century, Armenia has engaged in diplomatic activity with Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia and the West. The aim of those diplomatic initiatives was to find a solution...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Since the end of the first Nagorno-Karabakh war in 1994 and for over quarter of a century, Armenia has engaged in diplomatic activity with Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia and the West. The aim of those diplomatic initiatives was to find a solution to the conflict by engaging in direct diplomatic negotiations as well as track two diplomacy.
In September 2020, diplomatic initiatives gave way to a military one resulting in a war that reversed Armenia’s military successes and led to the signing of a cease-fire agreement which completely undermined Armenia’s position vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and Turkey.
To understand the background of Armenia’s diplomatic activities before the war as well as to look at the future of Armenia’s role in the region, today we will discuss the challenges and opportunities faced by Armenia in the last two decades as well as the way forward.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐓𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐠𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is President of the International Center for Human Development. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP at the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. In 1997-1999 he served as the NKR Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
TOPICS:
- On track two diplomacy in Armenian-Azerbaijani & Armenian-Turkish relations.
- State of the Karabakh negotiations prior to the September war.
- What were the key events that put us on a warpath?
- What factors led to Armenia losing the war?
- Internal Armenian politics. Is Armenia a failed state?
- Life in Artsakh.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201229.html
Episode 37
Recorded on Dec. 28, 2020</itunes:summary><description>Since the end of the first Nagorno-Karabakh war in 1994 and for over quarter of a century, Armenia has engaged in diplomatic activity with Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia and the West. The aim of those diplomatic initiatives was to find a solution to the conflict by engaging in direct diplomatic negotiations as well as track two diplomacy.
In September 2020, diplomatic initiatives gave way to a military one resulting in a war that reversed Armenia’s military successes and led to the signing of a cease-fire agreement which completely undermined Armenia’s position vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and Turkey.
To understand the background of Armenia’s diplomatic activities before the war as well as to look at the future of Armenia’s role in the region, today we will discuss the challenges and opportunities faced by Armenia in the last two decades as well as the way forward.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐓𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐠𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is President of the International Center for Human Development. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP at the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. In 1997-1999 he served as the NKR Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
TOPICS:
- On track two diplomacy in Armenian-Azerbaijani & Armenian-Turkish relations.
- State of the Karabakh negotiations prior to the September war.
- What were the key events that put us on a warpath?
- What factors led to Armenia losing the war?
- Internal Armenian politics. Is Armenia a failed state?
- Life in Artsakh.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201229.html
Episode 37
Recorded on Dec. 28, 2020</description><googleplay:description>Since the end of the first Nagorno-Karabakh war in 1994 and for over quarter of a century, Armenia has engaged in diplomatic activity with Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia and the West. The aim of those diplomatic initiatives was to find a solution to the conflict by engaging in direct diplomatic negotiations as well as track two diplomacy.
In September 2020, diplomatic initiatives gave way to a military one resulting in a war that reversed Armenia’s military successes and led to the signing of a cease-fire agreement which completely undermined Armenia’s position vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and Turkey.
To understand the background of Armenia’s diplomatic activities before the war as well as to look at the future of Armenia’s role in the region, today we will discuss the challenges and opportunities faced by Armenia in the last two decades as well as the way forward.
Today we’re joined by:
𝐓𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐠𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is President of the International Center for Human Development. Mr. Poghosyan was an MP at the National Assembly between 2012 and 2017 from the Heritage party. In 1997-1999 he served as the NKR Public Affairs Office Director in Washington, D.C.
TOPICS:
- On track two diplomacy in Armenian-Azerbaijani & Armenian-Turkish relations.
- State of the Karabakh negotiations prior to the September war.
- What were the key events that put us on a warpath?
- What factors led to Armenia losing the war?
- Internal Armenian politics. Is Armenia a failed state?
- Life in Artsakh.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201229.html
Episode 37
Recorded on Dec. 28, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/7045906-tevan-poghosyan-on-diplomacy-war-and-the-way-forward-37-dec-29-2020.mp3" length="31617502" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:43:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Opposition Talks: Edmon Marukyan of Bright Armenia Party (Ep. 36)
[EP36]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/36-opposition-talks-edmon-marukyan-of-bright-armenia-party/</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 05:32:29 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6982657-opposition-talks-edmon-marukyan-of-bright-armenia-party.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Opposition Talks: Edmon Marukyan of Bright Armenia Party (Ep. 36)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 Bright Armenia's Edmon Marukyan

Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, all major political forces in Armenia (except for the ruling party) condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal. While the...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 Bright Armenia's Edmon Marukyan
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, all major political forces in Armenia (except for the ruling party) condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal. While the dissatisfaction with the agreement is widespread, the opposition is not entirely unified on what to do next.
We’ll talk with the leader of one of the 2 parliamentary opposition factions, Bright Armenia about his, and his party’s vision and subsequent actions to be taken by Armenia.
What is Bright Armenia’s vision for post November, Armenia? Listen to this podcast to find out.
Today's guest is:
Edmon Marukyan, who is an Armenian lawyer and Member of National Assembly. Edmon holds two Master’s Degrees, one in Jurisprudence from the Public Administration Academy of Armenia and the second one in Law (LL.M.) with concentration in International Human Rights Law from the University of Minnesota Law School. In December 2015, Marukyan established the Bright Armenia Political Party and in October 2016, Bright Armenia participated in local-self- government elections of Vanadzor and came in second after the ruling party. In December 2016, in cooperation with “Civic Contract” and “Republic” parties, “Bright Armenia” formed a political coalition named “Way Out” (or Yelq), electing Edmon Marukyan to lead the proportional list of the Coalition in parliamentary elections of April 2, 2017. The “Way Out” Coalition came in third out of four political powers forming the new Parliament. In the snap elections of December 2018, after the dissolution of parliament following the Velvet Revolution, in which 11 political powers took part, Bright Armenia Party, led by Marukyan came in third, taking 18 seats out of 132. Currently Edmon Marukyan leads the Bright Armenia Faction in the National Assembly of Armenia.
Topics:
- Position on the causes of the war & Nov. 9 ceasefire?
- Why BA has not joined Movement for Salvation of Homeland?
- Popular support for opposition protests
- BA commonality and differences with “The 17”
- Electoral reform and snap election proposal by government
- BA’s vision of Armenia for the next 5-10 years
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201223.html</itunes:summary><description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 Bright Armenia's Edmon Marukyan
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, all major political forces in Armenia (except for the ruling party) condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal. While the dissatisfaction with the agreement is widespread, the opposition is not entirely unified on what to do next.
We’ll talk with the leader of one of the 2 parliamentary opposition factions, Bright Armenia about his, and his party’s vision and subsequent actions to be taken by Armenia.
What is Bright Armenia’s vision for post November, Armenia? Listen to this podcast to find out.
Today's guest is:
Edmon Marukyan, who is an Armenian lawyer and Member of National Assembly. Edmon holds two Master’s Degrees, one in Jurisprudence from the Public Administration Academy of Armenia and the second one in Law (LL.M.) with concentration in International Human Rights Law from the University of Minnesota Law School. In December 2015, Marukyan established the Bright Armenia Political Party and in October 2016, Bright Armenia participated in local-self- government elections of Vanadzor and came in second after the ruling party. In December 2016, in cooperation with “Civic Contract” and “Republic” parties, “Bright Armenia” formed a political coalition named “Way Out” (or Yelq), electing Edmon Marukyan to lead the proportional list of the Coalition in parliamentary elections of April 2, 2017. The “Way Out” Coalition came in third out of four political powers forming the new Parliament. In the snap elections of December 2018, after the dissolution of parliament following the Velvet Revolution, in which 11 political powers took part, Bright Armenia Party, led by Marukyan came in third, taking 18 seats out of 132. Currently Edmon Marukyan leads the Bright Armenia Faction in the National Assembly of Armenia.
Topics:
- Position on the causes of the war & Nov. 9 ceasefire?
- Why BA has not joined Movement for Salvation of Homeland?
- Popular support for opposition protests
- BA commonality and differences with “The 17”
- Electoral reform and snap election proposal by government
- BA’s vision of Armenia for the next 5-10 years
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201223.html</description><googleplay:description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 Bright Armenia's Edmon Marukyan
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, all major political forces in Armenia (except for the ruling party) condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal. While the dissatisfaction with the agreement is widespread, the opposition is not entirely unified on what to do next.
We’ll talk with the leader of one of the 2 parliamentary opposition factions, Bright Armenia about his, and his party’s vision and subsequent actions to be taken by Armenia.
What is Bright Armenia’s vision for post November, Armenia? Listen to this podcast to find out.
Today's guest is:
Edmon Marukyan, who is an Armenian lawyer and Member of National Assembly. Edmon holds two Master’s Degrees, one in Jurisprudence from the Public Administration Academy of Armenia and the second one in Law (LL.M.) with concentration in International Human Rights Law from the University of Minnesota Law School. In December 2015, Marukyan established the Bright Armenia Political Party and in October 2016, Bright Armenia participated in local-self- government elections of Vanadzor and came in second after the ruling party. In December 2016, in cooperation with “Civic Contract” and “Republic” parties, “Bright Armenia” formed a political coalition named “Way Out” (or Yelq), electing Edmon Marukyan to lead the proportional list of the Coalition in parliamentary elections of April 2, 2017. The “Way Out” Coalition came in third out of four political powers forming the new Parliament. In the snap elections of December 2018, after the dissolution of parliament following the Velvet Revolution, in which 11 political powers took part, Bright Armenia Party, led by Marukyan came in third, taking 18 seats out of 132. Currently Edmon Marukyan leads the Bright Armenia Faction in the National Assembly of Armenia.
Topics:
- Position on the causes of the war & Nov. 9 ceasefire?
- Why BA has not joined Movement for Salvation of Homeland?
- Popular support for opposition protests
- BA commonality and differences with “The 17”
- Electoral reform and snap election proposal by government
- BA’s vision of Armenia for the next 5-10 years
Your Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201223.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6982657-opposition-talks-edmon-marukyan-of-bright-armenia-party.mp3" length="26630391" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Life in Artsakh | Hin Tagher/Khtsaberd | Political Scene in Yerevan | Kapan Border Tension (Ep. 35)
[EP35]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/35-life-in-artsakh-hin-tagher-khtsaberd-political-scene-in-yerevan-kapan-border-tension-ep-35/</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 19:49:28 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6978898-life-in-artsakh-hin-tagher-khtsaberd-political-scene-in-yerevan-kapan-border-tension-ep-35.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Life in Artsakh | Hin Tagher/Khtsaberd | Political Scene in Yerevan | Kapan Border Tension (Ep. 35)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟑𝟓 - 𝐃𝐞𝐜 𝟐𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics Covered:
- Life in Artsakh
- Update on Hin Tagher &amp; Khtsaberd
- Internal Political Situation in Yerevan
- Kapan Border Tension

Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐈𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟑𝟓 - 𝐃𝐞𝐜 𝟐𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics Covered:
- Life in Artsakh
- Update on Hin Tagher & Khtsaberd
- Internal Political Situation in Yerevan
- Kapan Border Tension
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐈𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201220.html
Recorded: Dec 20, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟑𝟓 - 𝐃𝐞𝐜 𝟐𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics Covered:
- Life in Artsakh
- Update on Hin Tagher & Khtsaberd
- Internal Political Situation in Yerevan
- Kapan Border Tension
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐈𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201220.html
Recorded: Dec 20, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟑𝟓 - 𝐃𝐞𝐜 𝟐𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics Covered:
- Life in Artsakh
- Update on Hin Tagher & Khtsaberd
- Internal Political Situation in Yerevan
- Kapan Border Tension
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐈𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201220.html
Recorded: Dec 20, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6978898-life-in-artsakh-hin-tagher-khtsaberd-political-scene-in-yerevan-kapan-border-tension-ep-35.mp3" length="26167914" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:36:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Opposition Talks: Arthur Khachatryan - ARF Dashnaktsutyun (Ep. 34)
[EP34]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/34-arthur-khachatryan-of-the-arf-dashnaktsutyun-opposition-talks/</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6921518-opposition-talks-arthur-khachatryan-of-the-arf-dashnaktsutyun-ep-34.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Opposition Talks: Arthur Khachatryan - ARF Dashnaktsutyun (Ep. 34)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐑𝐅’𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧

Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, the Armenian opposition has nearly universally condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal. 
The largest opposition grouping, called...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐑𝐅’𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, the Armenian opposition has nearly universally condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal.
The largest opposition grouping, called Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland (Հայրենիքի փրկության շաժում in Armenian), composed of 17 political parties including the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF), Prosperous Armenia, and the Republican Party, are demanding Pashinyan’s immediate resignation and the appointment of their unified candidate, Vazgen Manukyan as interim PM.
This group has been holding regular protests featuring a growing number of participants, with the latest gathering Wednesday, December 17, estimated to be 20K in size.
We’ll be talking with representatives of the political forces behind the movement, to better understand the internal political developments in Armenia and specifically the goals of the Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland.
Today's guest is:
𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (𝐀𝐑𝐅 𝐃𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐧𝐚𝐤𝐭𝐬𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧) Supreme Council in Yerevan. In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture. Currently, Arthur is a professor of finance at the French University of Armenia and lectures on Leadership at the Public Administration Academy of the Republic of Armenia.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201219.html</itunes:summary><description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐑𝐅’𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, the Armenian opposition has nearly universally condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal.
The largest opposition grouping, called Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland (Հայրենիքի փրկության շաժում in Armenian), composed of 17 political parties including the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF), Prosperous Armenia, and the Republican Party, are demanding Pashinyan’s immediate resignation and the appointment of their unified candidate, Vazgen Manukyan as interim PM.
This group has been holding regular protests featuring a growing number of participants, with the latest gathering Wednesday, December 17, estimated to be 20K in size.
We’ll be talking with representatives of the political forces behind the movement, to better understand the internal political developments in Armenia and specifically the goals of the Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland.
Today's guest is:
𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (𝐀𝐑𝐅 𝐃𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐧𝐚𝐤𝐭𝐬𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧) Supreme Council in Yerevan. In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture. Currently, Arthur is a professor of finance at the French University of Armenia and lectures on Leadership at the Public Administration Academy of the Republic of Armenia.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201219.html</description><googleplay:description>𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐀𝐑𝐅’𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Following the trilateral Karabakh ceasefire of Nov 9, the Armenian opposition has nearly universally condemned Nikol Pashinyan’s agreement to the deal.
The largest opposition grouping, called Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland (Հայրենիքի փրկության շաժում in Armenian), composed of 17 political parties including the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF), Prosperous Armenia, and the Republican Party, are demanding Pashinyan’s immediate resignation and the appointment of their unified candidate, Vazgen Manukyan as interim PM.
This group has been holding regular protests featuring a growing number of participants, with the latest gathering Wednesday, December 17, estimated to be 20K in size.
We’ll be talking with representatives of the political forces behind the movement, to better understand the internal political developments in Armenia and specifically the goals of the Movement of the Salvation of the Homeland.
Today's guest is:
𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐮𝐫 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is a member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (𝐀𝐑𝐅 𝐃𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐧𝐚𝐤𝐭𝐬𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧) Supreme Council in Yerevan. In the past, he held government posts such as Deputy Minister of Territorial Administration and Development, Governor of Shirak, and Minister of Agriculture. Currently, Arthur is a professor of finance at the French University of Armenia and lectures on Leadership at the Public Administration Academy of the Republic of Armenia.
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201219.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6921518-opposition-talks-arthur-khachatryan-of-the-arf-dashnaktsutyun-ep-34.mp3" length="18753672" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:25:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Renewed Fighting &amp; the OSCE MG | Border Demarcation | Fate of Sotq | Diplomatic Relations (Ep. 33)
[EP33]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/33-renewed-fighting-the-osce-mg-border-demarcation-fate-of-sotq-diplomatic-relations-ep-33/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 04:53:56 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6837433-renewed-fighting-the-osce-mg-border-demarcation-fate-of-sotq-diplomatic-relations-ep-33.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Renewed Fighting &amp; the OSCE MG | Border Demarcation | Fate of Sotq | Diplomatic Relations (Ep. 33)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 33 - Dec 13, 2020

Topics Covered:
- Renewed Fighting &amp; the OSCE MG visit
- Expedited Border Demarcation?
- What will happen to Sotq?
- Diplomatic Relations with Azerbaijan?

Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 33 - Dec 13, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Renewed Fighting & the OSCE MG visit
- Expedited Border Demarcation?
- What will happen to Sotq?
- Diplomatic Relations with Azerbaijan?
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Emil Sanamyan
- Pietro Shakarian
Recorded: Dec 13, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 33 - Dec 13, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Renewed Fighting & the OSCE MG visit
- Expedited Border Demarcation?
- What will happen to Sotq?
- Diplomatic Relations with Azerbaijan?
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Emil Sanamyan
- Pietro Shakarian
Recorded: Dec 13, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 33 - Dec 13, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Renewed Fighting & the OSCE MG visit
- Expedited Border Demarcation?
- What will happen to Sotq?
- Diplomatic Relations with Azerbaijan?
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Emil Sanamyan
- Pietro Shakarian
Recorded: Dec 13, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6837433-renewed-fighting-the-osce-mg-border-demarcation-fate-of-sotq-diplomatic-relations-ep-33.mp3" length="34825108" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:48:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life (Ep #32) - 12/13/2020
[EP32]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/32-the-role-of-the-humanities-and-social-studies-in-armenian-life-ep-32/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6830104-the-role-of-the-humanities-and-social-studies-in-armenian-life-ep-32.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life (Ep #32) - 12/13/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life  - 12/13/2020

Conversations on Groong

Academia and academic work, especially in the fields of humanities and social sciences, has always been instrumentalized by various...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life - 12/13/2020
Conversations on Groong
Academia and academic work, especially in the fields of humanities and social sciences, has always been instrumentalized by various ideologies and/or political regimes. Moreover, various disciplines within each of those fields such as anthropology, art history, literature, etc., have a long tradition of being the middle children of academia and are rarely considered to have a role in shaping minds and trends in society. In Armenia the roles of humanities and social science have undergone changes since soviet and immediate post-soviet times. At a time where both these fields were viewed as instruments of legitimization of Communism and later nationalism, academics in these fields had to navigate the murky waters of ideology less they were willing to be labeled “pseudo-academics” or even worse as traitors.
The challenge of having robust disciplines in humanities and social sciences in Armenia is manifold. These include encouraging critical thinking void of ideology, the role of individuals with degrees in humanities and social sciences in the larger society, challenging pre-existing paradigms and many more.
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts, discusses with:
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐥𝐚 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is Associate Professor of Art History and the chair of the Department of Fine Arts and Art History at the American University of Beirut. She is founding member of BICAR (Beirut Institute for Critical Analysis and Research) and the Johannissyan Research Institute in the Humanities in Yerevan, Armenia. She is editor of ARTMargins peer-reviewed journal (MIT Press). Her monograph The Political Aesthetics of the Armenian Avant-garde: The Journey of the “Painterly Real'" was published by Manchester University Press in 2017 and 2019.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Details in https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201213.html
Episode 32 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</itunes:summary><description>The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life - 12/13/2020
Conversations on Groong
Academia and academic work, especially in the fields of humanities and social sciences, has always been instrumentalized by various ideologies and/or political regimes. Moreover, various disciplines within each of those fields such as anthropology, art history, literature, etc., have a long tradition of being the middle children of academia and are rarely considered to have a role in shaping minds and trends in society. In Armenia the roles of humanities and social science have undergone changes since soviet and immediate post-soviet times. At a time where both these fields were viewed as instruments of legitimization of Communism and later nationalism, academics in these fields had to navigate the murky waters of ideology less they were willing to be labeled “pseudo-academics” or even worse as traitors.
The challenge of having robust disciplines in humanities and social sciences in Armenia is manifold. These include encouraging critical thinking void of ideology, the role of individuals with degrees in humanities and social sciences in the larger society, challenging pre-existing paradigms and many more.
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts, discusses with:
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐥𝐚 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is Associate Professor of Art History and the chair of the Department of Fine Arts and Art History at the American University of Beirut. She is founding member of BICAR (Beirut Institute for Critical Analysis and Research) and the Johannissyan Research Institute in the Humanities in Yerevan, Armenia. She is editor of ARTMargins peer-reviewed journal (MIT Press). Her monograph The Political Aesthetics of the Armenian Avant-garde: The Journey of the “Painterly Real'" was published by Manchester University Press in 2017 and 2019.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Details in https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201213.html
Episode 32 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</description><googleplay:description>The Role of The Humanities and Social Studies in Armenian Life - 12/13/2020
Conversations on Groong
Academia and academic work, especially in the fields of humanities and social sciences, has always been instrumentalized by various ideologies and/or political regimes. Moreover, various disciplines within each of those fields such as anthropology, art history, literature, etc., have a long tradition of being the middle children of academia and are rarely considered to have a role in shaping minds and trends in society. In Armenia the roles of humanities and social science have undergone changes since soviet and immediate post-soviet times. At a time where both these fields were viewed as instruments of legitimization of Communism and later nationalism, academics in these fields had to navigate the murky waters of ideology less they were willing to be labeled “pseudo-academics” or even worse as traitors.
The challenge of having robust disciplines in humanities and social sciences in Armenia is manifold. These include encouraging critical thinking void of ideology, the role of individuals with degrees in humanities and social sciences in the larger society, challenging pre-existing paradigms and many more.
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts, discusses with:
𝐃𝐫. 𝐀𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐥𝐚 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐮𝐭𝐲𝐮𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧, who is Associate Professor of Art History and the chair of the Department of Fine Arts and Art History at the American University of Beirut. She is founding member of BICAR (Beirut Institute for Critical Analysis and Research) and the Johannissyan Research Institute in the Humanities in Yerevan, Armenia. She is editor of ARTMargins peer-reviewed journal (MIT Press). Her monograph The Political Aesthetics of the Armenian Avant-garde: The Journey of the “Painterly Real'" was published by Manchester University Press in 2017 and 2019.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Details in https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201213.html
Episode 32 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6830104-the-role-of-the-humanities-and-social-studies-in-armenian-life-ep-32.mp3" length="36715250" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:50:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh-Karabakh – From a Russian Foreign Policy Perspective (Ep . 31)
[EP31]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/31-artsakh-karabakh-from-a-russian-foreign-policy-perspective-ep-31/</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6798175-artsakh-karabakh-from-a-russian-foreign-policy-perspective-ep-31.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh-Karabakh – From a Russian Foreign Policy Perspective (Ep . 31)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        On November 9, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia signed The Statement ending the war in Artsakh, known more commonly as Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia emerged as a major winner, by ending the violence, introducing peacekeepers, and upholding its...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>On November 9, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia signed The Statement ending the war in Artsakh, known more commonly as Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia emerged as a major winner, by ending the violence, introducing peacekeepers, and upholding its historical role as the regional referee in the Caucasus. What are Russia’s interests in the region, and in this agreement?
𝐏𝐢𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 helps us explore. He is a historian and a Ph.D. candidate in Russian History at the Ohio State University. His analyses on Russia, Armenia, and the post-Soviet space have appeared in several publications, including The Nation, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Russia Direct, Hetq, and more.
-- Why is the South Caucasus so important to Russia? Are Russia’s interests the same as they were 200 years ago, as an expanding power in the region?
-- Why is Karabakh important enough for Moscow to commit its troops?
-- How does the Kremlin perceive the current leaderships in Yerevan and Baku?
-- How many towers to the Kremlin? What are the different factions within the Russian ruling elite? How do perceptions of the region and solutions for it differ among them?
-- How is Turkey viewed within the context of Russian regional strategy?
-- Finally, let’s talk about the November statement and beyond! What does Russian intervention mean? Where does Moscow go from here?
-- Is Moscow, as Pushkin would say, a “prisoner of the Caucasus?”
Hosts:
-- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
-- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
https://groong.org/podcasts/LC-20201211.html</itunes:summary><description>On November 9, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia signed The Statement ending the war in Artsakh, known more commonly as Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia emerged as a major winner, by ending the violence, introducing peacekeepers, and upholding its historical role as the regional referee in the Caucasus. What are Russia’s interests in the region, and in this agreement?
𝐏𝐢𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 helps us explore. He is a historian and a Ph.D. candidate in Russian History at the Ohio State University. His analyses on Russia, Armenia, and the post-Soviet space have appeared in several publications, including The Nation, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Russia Direct, Hetq, and more.
-- Why is the South Caucasus so important to Russia? Are Russia’s interests the same as they were 200 years ago, as an expanding power in the region?
-- Why is Karabakh important enough for Moscow to commit its troops?
-- How does the Kremlin perceive the current leaderships in Yerevan and Baku?
-- How many towers to the Kremlin? What are the different factions within the Russian ruling elite? How do perceptions of the region and solutions for it differ among them?
-- How is Turkey viewed within the context of Russian regional strategy?
-- Finally, let’s talk about the November statement and beyond! What does Russian intervention mean? Where does Moscow go from here?
-- Is Moscow, as Pushkin would say, a “prisoner of the Caucasus?”
Hosts:
-- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
-- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
https://groong.org/podcasts/LC-20201211.html</description><googleplay:description>On November 9, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia signed The Statement ending the war in Artsakh, known more commonly as Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia emerged as a major winner, by ending the violence, introducing peacekeepers, and upholding its historical role as the regional referee in the Caucasus. What are Russia’s interests in the region, and in this agreement?
𝐏𝐢𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐧 helps us explore. He is a historian and a Ph.D. candidate in Russian History at the Ohio State University. His analyses on Russia, Armenia, and the post-Soviet space have appeared in several publications, including The Nation, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Russian International Affairs Council, Russia Direct, Hetq, and more.
-- Why is the South Caucasus so important to Russia? Are Russia’s interests the same as they were 200 years ago, as an expanding power in the region?
-- Why is Karabakh important enough for Moscow to commit its troops?
-- How does the Kremlin perceive the current leaderships in Yerevan and Baku?
-- How many towers to the Kremlin? What are the different factions within the Russian ruling elite? How do perceptions of the region and solutions for it differ among them?
-- How is Turkey viewed within the context of Russian regional strategy?
-- Finally, let’s talk about the November statement and beyond! What does Russian intervention mean? Where does Moscow go from here?
-- Is Moscow, as Pushkin would say, a “prisoner of the Caucasus?”
Hosts:
-- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
-- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
https://groong.org/podcasts/LC-20201211.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6798175-artsakh-karabakh-from-a-russian-foreign-policy-perspective-ep-31.mp3" length="12552183" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:17:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Turkey &amp; Azerbaijan Connecting | Opposition Uniting | Putin support? | Kocharyan Interview Ep. 30 - Dec. 6, 2020
[EP30]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/30-turkey-and-azerbaijan-connecting-armenia-s-political-opposition-uniting-does-putin-support-pashinyan-robert-kocharyan-interview-ep-30/</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2020 03:07:26 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6729955-turkey-and-azerbaijan-connecting-armenia-s-political-opposition-uniting-does-putin-support-pashinyan-robert-kocharyan-interview-ep-30.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Turkey &amp; Azerbaijan Connecting | Opposition Uniting | Putin support? | Kocharyan Interview Ep. 30 - Dec. 6, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 12/06/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - Dec 6, 2020
#### Topics:
* Turkey and Azerbaijan Connecting
* Armenia’s Political Opposition Uniting
* Does Putin support Pashinyan?
* Robert Kocharyan Interview
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 30 | Recorded: Dec 6, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - Dec 6, 2020
#### Topics:
* Turkey and Azerbaijan Connecting
* Armenia’s Political Opposition Uniting
* Does Putin support Pashinyan?
* Robert Kocharyan Interview
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 30 | Recorded: Dec 6, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - Dec 6, 2020
#### Topics:
* Turkey and Azerbaijan Connecting
* Armenia’s Political Opposition Uniting
* Does Putin support Pashinyan?
* Robert Kocharyan Interview
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 30 | Recorded: Dec 6, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="turkey-and-azerbaijan-connecting">Turkey and Azerbaijan Connecting</h2>
<p>In The Statement of November 10, it looked like Point 9 was a late addition which Turkey and Azerbaijan decided that, in a moment when Armenia was at a gunpoint and out of options, they would throw in everything and the kitchen sink in the agreement. It reads:</p>
<pre><code>* All economic activity and transport links in the region are to be unrestricted. The Republic of Armenia guarantees the safety of transport links between western regions of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic in order to organize the unimpeded movement of citizens, vehicles and cargo in both directions. Transport control is carried out by the bodies of the Border Service of the FSB of Russia. By agreement of the Parties, the construction of new infrastructure linking the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic with regions of Azerbaijan is to take place.
</code></pre>
<p><strong>Question:</strong>
What are the goals of this point?</p>
<h2 id="armenias-political-opposition-uniting">Armenia’s Political Opposition Uniting</h2>
<p>Since the signing of The Statement which ended hostilities in Artsakh on November 9, the political environment in Yerevan has been in turmoil.</p>
<p>A hodge-podge of 17+ political parties, calling itself “The Salvation of Motherland Movement”, has called for PM Pashinyan’s resignation and has put forward the veteran politician Vazgen Manukyan as its candidate for interim PM. On Saturday, December 5, this alliance held its largest protest yet in 4 weeks numbering about 20 thousand people.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Edmond Marukyan of the Bright Armenia party also announced his own candidacy for the same position.</p>
<p>The position however is not vacant. Pashinyan has refused to comply with the calls for resignation and the government has only made cosmetic changes by reshuffling the cabinet, and advisors.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where do we see these developments heading?</li>
<li>What are some of the key points in the statements made by the opposition representatives including Vazgen Manukyan</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="does-putin-support-pashinyan">Does Putin support Pashinyan?</h2>
<p>On December 2, Russian president Putin chaired a virtual summit of the CSTO. Announcing that Armenia’s leader had to make “painful but necessary concessions” Putin said that it was up to CSTO leaders to “support the prime minister as well as his team in their efforts to establish peace, achieve the implementation of all of the decisions made, and assist people who found themselves in very difficult life situations.&quot;</p>
<p>At the same time there were reports of wealthy Russian diasporans calling for his resignation, including Ruben Vardanyan and Samvel Karapetyan.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Can this statement be viewed as an endorsement of Pashinyan by Moscow?</li>
<li>What are the implications of such an announcement on Armenia’s internal political scene and the continuation of Pashinyan as PM?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="robert-kocharyan-interview">Robert Kocharyan Interview</h2>
<p>Meanwhile former President Robert Kocharyan gave an expensive interview on Friday. What are some of the key points that stood out in that interview?</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XYSYjVAds">ՀՀ 2-րդ նախագահ Ռոբերտ Քոչարյանի հարցազրույցը` «5-րդ ալիքին» (տեսանյութ)</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Some points from the interview:</p>
<ul>
<li>SU-30 purchase decision explicitly made by PM, despite counter-recommendations from the military. The PM thought they were “more impressive” than the TOR systems. Also, the SU-30’s did not come with the required missiles for engagement because the missiles were not exportable by Russia.</li>
<li>There were multiple occasions during the war - from the 4th day on until the end - when Putin said there was an opportunity to end the war, and the PM missed it.</li>
<li>Vitaly Balasanyan requested to take over the leadership of the southern front, but was denied.</li>
<li>Mentioning Saddam Hussein as the only modern leader who hung on to power after losing a war, and then going on to being hung after his capture.</li>
<li>Mentioned deeper integration with Russia, particularly in the area of defense.</li>
<li>Mentioned that the July fighting was provoked by Armenia.</li>
<li>In the context of Armenian-Russian relations, RK mentioned that several months before the war a new head of national security was appointed whose task was to flush out the pro-Russian elements from Armenia’s government. (He was most likely referring to Argishti Kyaramyan, who was appointed to that position in June 2020. &ndash;Groong note)</li>
<li>He promised to be involved in rebuilding of Armenia saying: «անմաս չեմ մնալու անկասկած».</li>
</ul>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/30/thumbnail-30.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/30/thumbnail-30.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6729955-turkey-and-azerbaijan-connecting-armenia-s-political-opposition-uniting-does-putin-support-pashinyan-robert-kocharyan-interview-ep-30.mp3" length="40770682" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:56:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan | Scene in Yerevan | COVID | Armenia Fund (Ep. 29)
[EP29]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/29-border-demarcation-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-the-scene-in-yerevan-covid-update-armenia-fund-support-for-the-post-war-economy-ep-29/</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:51:09 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6701140-border-demarcation-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-the-scene-in-yerevan-covid-update-armenia-fund-support-for-the-post-war-economy-ep-29.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan | Scene in Yerevan | COVID | Armenia Fund (Ep. 29)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 29 - Nov 29, 2020

Topics Covered:
- Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan
- The Scene in Yerevan
- COVID Update
- Armenia Fund support for the post-war Economy

Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 29 - Nov 29, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan
- The Scene in Yerevan
- COVID Update
- Armenia Fund support for the post-war Economy
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Recorded: Nov 29, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 29 - Nov 29, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan
- The Scene in Yerevan
- COVID Update
- Armenia Fund support for the post-war Economy
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Recorded: Nov 29, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 29 - Nov 29, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Border Demarcation between Armenia and Azerbaijan
- The Scene in Yerevan
- COVID Update
- Armenia Fund support for the post-war Economy
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Hrant Mikaelian
Recorded: Nov 29, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6701140-border-demarcation-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-the-scene-in-yerevan-covid-update-armenia-fund-support-for-the-post-war-economy-ep-29.mp3" length="28548510" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Pietro Shakarian - Soviet or Armenian? The Life and Times of Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan | Ep 28, Dec 4, 2020
[EP28]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/28-pietro-shakarian-anastas-mikoyan-armenian-life-and-times-reformer-kremlin-soviet-nationalities/</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 00:12:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6686738-cog-soviet-or-armenian-the-life-and-times-of-anastas-ivanovich-mikoyan-28-dec-3-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pietro Shakarian - Soviet or Armenian? The Life and Times of Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan | Ep 28, Dec 4, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - Recorded on: December 3, 2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Groong Links:
* [GIVE to GROONG](https://podcasts.groong.org/donate)
* [linktr.ee/Groong](https://linktr.ee/groong)
#### Guest:
* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* The Life and Times of Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan
Episode 28 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</itunes:summary><description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* The Life and Times of Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan
Episode 28 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</description><googleplay:description>
#### Groong Links:
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#### Guest:
* [Pietro Shakarian](/guest/pshakarian)
#### Topics:
* The Life and Times of Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan
Episode 28 | Recorded on December 3, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Born in 1895 in Sanahin, Armenia, Anastas Mikoyan rose to become the most influential Soviet statesman of Armenian origin. A political survivor, he navigated the power struggles of every Soviet regime from Lenin to Brezhnev, at one point becoming Khrushchev’s right-hand man and the second most powerful figure in the USSR. His legacy remains controversial and complex.<br>
Today on <strong>Groong</strong>, we take a closer look at this extraordinary and enigmatic figure.</p>
<p>Joining us is <strong>Pietro Shakarian</strong>, a historian and PhD candidate in Russian history at <strong>The Ohio State University</strong>. His dissertation examines Mikoyan’s role in Khrushchev-era reforms, particularly de-Stalinization and Soviet nationality policy. Pietro’s work on Russia, Armenia, and the post-Soviet world has been featured in <em>The Nation</em>, the <em>Cleveland Plain Dealer</em>, the Russian International Affairs Council, <em>Russia Direct</em>, and <em>Hetq</em>. He has also collaborated with the <strong>Gomidas Institute</strong> in London on republishing 19th-century accounts of the Russian Caucasus and Armenia.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
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]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/28/thumbnail-28.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/28/thumbnail-28.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6686738-cog-soviet-or-armenian-the-life-and-times-of-anastas-ivanovich-mikoyan-28-dec-3-2020.mp3" length="28081441" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:38:56</itunes:duration></item><item><title>Who won/lost? | Pax Russiana | Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan | Jubilation in Baku (Ep. 27)
[EP27]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/27-the-war-ends-who-won-and-who-lost-pax-russiana-the-extent-of-turkey-s-presence-in-azerbaijan-jubilation-in-baku-ep-27/</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:34:21 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6447709-the-war-ends-who-won-and-who-lost-pax-russiana-the-extent-of-turkey-s-presence-in-azerbaijan-jubilation-in-baku-ep-27.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Who won/lost? | Pax Russiana | Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan | Jubilation in Baku (Ep. 27)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 27 - Nov 15, 2020

Topics Covered:
- The war ends. What are the terms of the deal?
- Pax Russiana
- The extent of Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan
- Jubilation in Baku

Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 27 - Nov 15, 2020
Topics Covered:
- The war ends. What are the terms of the deal?
- Pax Russiana
- The extent of Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan
- Jubilation in Baku
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Recorded: Nov 15, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 27 - Nov 15, 2020
Topics Covered:
- The war ends. What are the terms of the deal?
- Pax Russiana
- The extent of Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan
- Jubilation in Baku
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Recorded: Nov 15, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 27 - Nov 15, 2020
Topics Covered:
- The war ends. What are the terms of the deal?
- Pax Russiana
- The extent of Turkey’s presence in Azerbaijan
- Jubilation in Baku
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Artyom Tonoyan
Recorded: Nov 15, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6447709-the-war-ends-who-won-and-who-lost-pax-russiana-the-extent-of-turkey-s-presence-in-azerbaijan-jubilation-in-baku-ep-27.mp3" length="31945265" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:44:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Six weeks of war | What is Russia thinking? | To recognize or not to recognize (Ep. 26)
[EP26]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/26-six-weeks-of-war-what-is-russia-thinking-to-recognize-or-not-to-recognize-ep-26/</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2020 05:10:43 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6340759-six-weeks-of-war-what-is-russia-thinking-to-recognize-or-not-to-recognize-ep-26.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Six weeks of war | What is Russia thinking? | To recognize or not to recognize (Ep. 26)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 26 - Nov 8, 2020

Topics Covered:
- Six weeks of war, what to do next.
- What is Russia thinking?
- To recognize or not to recognize.

Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan

Resident Panelists:
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 26 - Nov 8, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Six weeks of war, what to do next.
- What is Russia thinking?
- To recognize or not to recognize.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Yeghia Tashjian
Recorded: Nov 7, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 26 - Nov 8, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Six weeks of war, what to do next.
- What is Russia thinking?
- To recognize or not to recognize.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Yeghia Tashjian
Recorded: Nov 7, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 26 - Nov 8, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Six weeks of war, what to do next.
- What is Russia thinking?
- To recognize or not to recognize.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
- Yeghia Tashjian
Recorded: Nov 7, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6340759-six-weeks-of-war-what-is-russia-thinking-to-recognize-or-not-to-recognize-ep-26.mp3" length="30180440" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>War &amp; Diplomacy: Minsk Group, Iran, Geneva | Support from Ex-presidents | Update on War (Ep. 25)
[EP25]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/25-war-diplomacy-minsk-group-iran-geneva-support-from-ex-presidents-update-on-war-ep-25/</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2020 05:55:02 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6203116-war-diplomacy-minsk-group-iran-geneva-support-from-ex-presidents-update-on-war-ep-25.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><itunes:title>War &amp; Diplomacy: Minsk Group, Iran, Geneva | Support from Ex-presidents | Update on War (Ep. 25)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 25 - Nov 1, 2020

Topics Covered:
- Summary of diplomatic activities
- Iranian mediation offers
- Negotiations in Geneva
- Support from ex-presidents
- Latest update on the war

Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 25 - Nov 1, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Summary of diplomatic activities
- Iranian mediation offers
- Negotiations in Geneva
- Support from ex-presidents
- Latest update on the war
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian https://twitter.com/asbedk
- Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Recorded: Oct 30, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 25 - Nov 1, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Summary of diplomatic activities
- Iranian mediation offers
- Negotiations in Geneva
- Support from ex-presidents
- Latest update on the war
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian https://twitter.com/asbedk
- Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Recorded: Oct 30, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review Episode 25 - Nov 1, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Summary of diplomatic activities
- Iranian mediation offers
- Negotiations in Geneva
- Support from ex-presidents
- Latest update on the war
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian https://twitter.com/qubriq
- Hovik Manucharyan https://twitter.com/HovikYerevan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian https://twitter.com/asbedk
- Suren Sargsyan https://twitter.com/s_a_sargsyan
Recorded: Oct 30, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6203116-war-diplomacy-minsk-group-iran-geneva-support-from-ex-presidents-update-on-war-ep-25.mp3" length="21449908" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:29:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Armeenia and Artsakh in the Arab Media (Ep #24) - 10/28/2020
[EP24]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/24-cog-artsakh-in-the-arab-media-24-oct-28-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6188845-cog-artsakh-in-the-arab-media-24-oct-28-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Armeenia and Artsakh in the Arab Media (Ep #24) - 10/28/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong:
Artsakh in the Arab Media - Oct 28, 2020

Since September 27, Azerbaijan has been waging an all out war on Artsakh, cluster-bombing towns and villages and killing civilians and destroying churches and cultural centers,...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Conversations on Groong:
Artsakh in the Arab Media - Oct 28, 2020
Since September 27, Azerbaijan has been waging an all out war on Artsakh, cluster-bombing towns and villages and killing civilians and destroying churches and cultural centers, with the aim to destroy and depopulate the region. The worldwide Armenian Diaspora has come together to fight this existential threat.
We’ve read much about the Diaspora’s activities around most of the world, but what about the Arab world? This episode explores some of the challenges and opportunities that the Armenian communities in the Arab world face.
To help guide today’s Conversation on Groong, we have with us Prof. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and the former Soviet space.
Prof. Kotchikian is joined by:
𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
And
𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐚 𝐘𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is the executive director of the Armenian National committee of the Middle East. She’s a PhD candidate in political science and a lecturer at the American university of Beirut (AUB) in politics. Vera also teaches courses on The Armenian Genocide at Haigazian university.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201028.html
Episode 24 | Recorded on October 28, 2020</itunes:summary><description>Conversations on Groong:
Artsakh in the Arab Media - Oct 28, 2020
Since September 27, Azerbaijan has been waging an all out war on Artsakh, cluster-bombing towns and villages and killing civilians and destroying churches and cultural centers, with the aim to destroy and depopulate the region. The worldwide Armenian Diaspora has come together to fight this existential threat.
We’ve read much about the Diaspora’s activities around most of the world, but what about the Arab world? This episode explores some of the challenges and opportunities that the Armenian communities in the Arab world face.
To help guide today’s Conversation on Groong, we have with us Prof. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and the former Soviet space.
Prof. Kotchikian is joined by:
𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
And
𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐚 𝐘𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is the executive director of the Armenian National committee of the Middle East. She’s a PhD candidate in political science and a lecturer at the American university of Beirut (AUB) in politics. Vera also teaches courses on The Armenian Genocide at Haigazian university.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201028.html
Episode 24 | Recorded on October 28, 2020</description><googleplay:description>Conversations on Groong:
Artsakh in the Arab Media - Oct 28, 2020
Since September 27, Azerbaijan has been waging an all out war on Artsakh, cluster-bombing towns and villages and killing civilians and destroying churches and cultural centers, with the aim to destroy and depopulate the region. The worldwide Armenian Diaspora has come together to fight this existential threat.
We’ve read much about the Diaspora’s activities around most of the world, but what about the Arab world? This episode explores some of the challenges and opportunities that the Armenian communities in the Arab world face.
To help guide today’s Conversation on Groong, we have with us Prof. 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and the former Soviet space.
Prof. Kotchikian is joined by:
𝐊𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐚 𝐏𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧, who has been teaching at the American University of Beirut since 1988. She has published two books which compile newspaper articles and reports from the Genocide years published in the Canadian and British press. Katia has been compiling news for the Armenian News Network Groong since 1999.
And
𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐚 𝐘𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐢𝐚𝐧, who is the executive director of the Armenian National committee of the Middle East. She’s a PhD candidate in political science and a lecturer at the American university of Beirut (AUB) in politics. Vera also teaches courses on The Armenian Genocide at Haigazian university.
Editors:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Web: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-20201028.html
Episode 24 | Recorded on October 28, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6188845-cog-artsakh-in-the-arab-media-24-oct-28-2020.mp3" length="37743954" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:52:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>International diplomacy | Turkey’s endgame | War and post-war economy | Update on COVID - 10/25/2020
[EP23]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/23-international-diplomacy-turkey-s-endgame-war-and-post-war-economy-update-on-covid-ep-23/</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:12:01 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6115510-international-diplomacy-turkey-s-endgame-war-and-post-war-economy-update-on-covid-ep-23.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:title>International diplomacy | Turkey’s endgame | War and post-war economy | Update on COVID - 10/25/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - 10/25/2020

Topics Covered:
- International diplomacy on the move?
- What is Turkey’s endgame?
- War and post-war economy
- Update on COVID

Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧

Your Hosts:...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - 10/25/2020
Topics Covered:
- International diplomacy on the move?
- What is Turkey’s endgame?
- War and post-war economy
- Update on COVID
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201025.html
Episode 23 | Recorded on October 25, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - 10/25/2020
Topics Covered:
- International diplomacy on the move?
- What is Turkey’s endgame?
- War and post-war economy
- Update on COVID
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201025.html
Episode 23 | Recorded on October 25, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - 10/25/2020
Topics Covered:
- International diplomacy on the move?
- What is Turkey’s endgame?
- War and post-war economy
- Update on COVID
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Your Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201025.html
Episode 23 | Recorded on October 25, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/6115510-international-diplomacy-turkey-s-endgame-war-and-post-war-economy-update-on-covid-ep-23.mp3" length="28485036" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh War - Back to 9/27 | War Council proposal | Diaspora mobilization (Ep. 22)
[EP22]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/22-artsakh-war-back-to-9-27-war-council-proposal-diaspora-mobilization-ep-22/</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 07:36:46 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5997355-artsakh-war-back-to-9-27-war-council-proposal-diaspora-mobilization-ep-22.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh War - Back to 9/27 | War Council proposal | Diaspora mobilization (Ep. 22)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 18, 2020

Topics Covered:
- In retrospect: Tracing our steps back to Sep. 27
- Call from extra-parliamentary opposition for a War Council
- Mobilization of the Armenian diaspora

Your Hosts:
- Asbed...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 18, 2020
Topics Covered:
- In retrospect: Tracing our steps back to Sep. 27
- Call from extra-parliamentary opposition for a War Council
- Mobilization of the Armenian diaspora
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Episode 22.
Recorded: October18, 2020
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 18, 2020
Topics Covered:
- In retrospect: Tracing our steps back to Sep. 27
- Call from extra-parliamentary opposition for a War Council
- Mobilization of the Armenian diaspora
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Episode 22.
Recorded: October18, 2020
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 18, 2020
Topics Covered:
- In retrospect: Tracing our steps back to Sep. 27
- Call from extra-parliamentary opposition for a War Council
- Mobilization of the Armenian diaspora
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Hovik Manucharyan
Resident Panelists:
- Asbed Kotchikian
- Emil Sanamyan
Episode 22.
Recorded: October18, 2020
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5997355-artsakh-war-back-to-9-27-war-council-proposal-diaspora-mobilization-ep-22.mp3" length="22139134" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:30:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Artsakh War: Security situation | Diplomatic activity | Humanitarian impact (Ep. 21)
[EP21]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/21-war-in-artsakh-security-situation-diplomatic-activity-humanitarian-impact-ep-21/</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:47:49 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5883073-war-in-artsakh-security-situation-diplomatic-activity-humanitarian-impact-ep-21.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Artsakh War: Security situation | Diplomatic activity | Humanitarian impact (Ep. 21)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 12, 2020

Topics Covered:
- Security situation on the ground;
- Diplomatic activity, short &amp; long term goals;
- Humanitarian impact in Artsakh &amp;  Armenia;
- Effect of social media on the war.

Your Hosts:
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 12, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Security situation on the ground;
- Diplomatic activity, short & long term goals;
- Humanitarian impact in Artsakh &  Armenia;
- Effect of social media on the war.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Asbed Kotchikian
Resident Panelists:
- Lara Aharonian: Co-founder & co-director of the Women's Resource Center NGO in Yerevan
- Robert Avetisyan: Representative of Nagorno Karabakh Republic in the US
Episode 21
Recorded: Oct 12, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201012.html
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 12, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Security situation on the ground;
- Diplomatic activity, short & long term goals;
- Humanitarian impact in Artsakh &  Armenia;
- Effect of social media on the war.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Asbed Kotchikian
Resident Panelists:
- Lara Aharonian: Co-founder & co-director of the Women's Resource Center NGO in Yerevan
- Robert Avetisyan: Representative of Nagorno Karabakh Republic in the US
Episode 21
Recorded: Oct 12, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201012.html
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 12, 2020
Topics Covered:
- Security situation on the ground;
- Diplomatic activity, short & long term goals;
- Humanitarian impact in Artsakh &  Armenia;
- Effect of social media on the war.
Your Hosts:
- Asbed Bedrossian
- Asbed Kotchikian
Resident Panelists:
- Lara Aharonian: Co-founder & co-director of the Women's Resource Center NGO in Yerevan
- Robert Avetisyan: Representative of Nagorno Karabakh Republic in the US
Episode 21
Recorded: Oct 12, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20201012.html
Playlist: WiR (Week in Review)</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5883073-war-in-artsakh-security-situation-diplomatic-activity-humanitarian-impact-ep-21.mp3" length="26791659" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:37:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Stepanakert Cluster Bombed | Turkey's Role | Russia Quiet | What's Next? | Ep. 20 - Oct 4, 2020
[EP20]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/20-stepanakert-cluster-bombed-turkey-s-role-russia-quiet-what-s-next-october-4-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2020 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5757580-stepanakert-cluster-bombed-turkey-s-role-russia-quiet-what-s-next-october-4-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Stepanakert Cluster Bombed | Turkey's Role | Russia Quiet | What's Next? | Ep. 20 - Oct 4, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Groong Week in Review - 10/04/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 4, 2020
#### Topics:
* Stepanakert under persistent bombardment using banned cluster bombs.
* Turkey’s role in the war.
* Why is Russia quiet?
* What can we expect next?
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Marine Manucharyan](/guest/mmanucharyan)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
Episode 20 | Recorded: Oct 3, 2020</itunes:summary><description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 4, 2020
#### Topics:
* Stepanakert under persistent bombardment using banned cluster bombs.
* Turkey’s role in the war.
* Why is Russia quiet?
* What can we expect next?
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Marine Manucharyan](/guest/mmanucharyan)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
Episode 20 | Recorded: Oct 3, 2020</description><googleplay:description>ANN/Groong Week in Review - October 4, 2020
#### Topics:
* Stepanakert under persistent bombardment using banned cluster bombs.
* Turkey’s role in the war.
* Why is Russia quiet?
* What can we expect next?
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Marine Manucharyan](/guest/mmanucharyan)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
Episode 20 | Recorded: Oct 3, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="war-azerbaijan-attacks-artsakh">War: Azerbaijan attacks Artsakh!</h2>
<p>This episode of the podcast was fully devoted to the war in Artsakh. It was recorded on the morning of Saturday, Oct 3 Pacific time while one of our guests, Varuzhan Geghamyan was in Stepanakert as the city was undergoing constant bombardment.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the air assault on Stepanakert and other civilian areas of Artsakh seems to have only intensified with more active use of cluster bombs, long-range missiles and suicide drones. As of early Monday morning (Pacific time) we have confirmed that Varuzhan is OK though he communicated that the situation is dangerous as the city is still under constant bombardment.</p>
<p>The use of cluster munitions, let alone targeting of civilian structures, is prohibited by international law and it seems that the dictator in Baku, Ilham Aliyev, is intent to level the city to the ground. As of this time, according to the Artsakh foreign ministry, 19 civilians have been killed, 80 wounded, and over 2700 property and civilian infrastructure has been damaged. We’re worried about the safety of Artsakh’s peaceful civilian population and urge you to raise awareness of this travesty among your non-Armenian friends and elected representatives.</p>
<p>Share this article from The Telegraph, UK:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/05/azerbaijan-dropping-cluster-bombs-civilian-areas-war-armenia">Azerbaijan dropping cluster bombs on civilian areas in war with Armenia</a></li>
</ul>
<p>For a week now, our focus here at Groong has been the war. What started in the early morning of Sunday 27th of September as an all out attack on the line of contact quickly escalated into a large scale war, with Azerbaijan attacking civilian targets in both Artsakh and in Armenia.</p>
<p>On October 3rd we published a conversation we had with Jirair Libaridian and Tom de Waal exploring the meta-analysis of the conflict which you may also find interesting. So check out Episode 19 for that recording.</p>
<p>Today we will discuss with our analysts from Armenia, Artsakh and the US some of the developments and the outlook around the ongoing war.</p>
<h4 id="varuzhan">Varuzhan</h4>
<p>Life under fire in Stepanakert and other parts of Artsakh. How are people handling the militarized environment, what is daily life like for the past week?</p>
<h4 id="marine">Marine</h4>
<p>Just days before the fighting she was planning to be in Artsakh to visit family. Impressions from Yerevan and Armenia?</p>
<h4 id="asbed-kotchikian">Asbed Kotchikian</h4>
<p>A brief synopsis of the discussion with Jirair Libaridian and Tom de Waal on this issue yesterday. What is driving Turkish activation toward the Caucasus? Does Turkey want to be directly involved in a conflict in Armenia?</p>
<h4 id="emil">Emil</h4>
<p>What are the factors on the Armenian and Azerbaijani sides that will determine the duration and intensity of the war?  What are some potential scenarios on how this war can progress?</p>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">find us</a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/20/thumbnail-20.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/20/thumbnail-20.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5757580-stepanakert-cluster-bombed-turkey-s-role-russia-quiet-what-s-next-october-4-2020.mp3" length="25964305" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:35:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚-𝐀𝐳𝐞𝐫𝐛𝐚𝐢𝐣𝐚𝐧 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐭 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐱𝐭 - 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧 / 𝐃𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐚𝐥 (𝐄𝐩. 𝟏𝟗)
[EP19]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/19-jirair-libaridian-thomas-de-waal-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-in-regional-context/</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2020 23:03:56 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5723422-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-in-regional-context-libaridian-de-waal-oct-3-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:title>𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚-𝐀𝐳𝐞𝐫𝐛𝐚𝐢𝐣𝐚𝐧 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐭 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐱𝐭 - 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧 / 𝐃𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐚𝐥 (𝐄𝐩. 𝟏𝟗)</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - October 3, 2020

It has now been 7 days since Azerbaijan initiated a wide-scale attack against Armenia and Artsakh. The tragic news of deaths and destruction continue to stream in every hour.

In today’s conversation...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Conversations on Groong - October 3, 2020
It has now been 7 days since Azerbaijan initiated a wide-scale attack against Armenia and Artsakh. The tragic news of deaths and destruction continue to stream in every hour.
In today’s conversation on Groong, we talk to Jirair Libaridian and Thomas DeWaal about the regional geopolitics that helped create a ripe environment for renewed fighting and various potential scenarios that may develop as a result of it.
Questions explored:
- What was the path leading to the latest escalation?
- Why has Turkey taken an active role in the conflict?
- Was Russia caught off-guard with the escalation?
- Does the OSCE Minsk Process matter anymore?
- How does Iran factor in the conflict?
Guests:
- 𝐓𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐃𝐞𝐖𝐚𝐚𝐥
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐉𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
Host::
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Episode 18
Recorded on October 2, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-ArmAz-Conflict-20201003.html</itunes:summary><description>Conversations on Groong - October 3, 2020
It has now been 7 days since Azerbaijan initiated a wide-scale attack against Armenia and Artsakh. The tragic news of deaths and destruction continue to stream in every hour.
In today’s conversation on Groong, we talk to Jirair Libaridian and Thomas DeWaal about the regional geopolitics that helped create a ripe environment for renewed fighting and various potential scenarios that may develop as a result of it.
Questions explored:
- What was the path leading to the latest escalation?
- Why has Turkey taken an active role in the conflict?
- Was Russia caught off-guard with the escalation?
- Does the OSCE Minsk Process matter anymore?
- How does Iran factor in the conflict?
Guests:
- 𝐓𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐃𝐞𝐖𝐚𝐚𝐥
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐉𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
Host::
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Episode 18
Recorded on October 2, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-ArmAz-Conflict-20201003.html</description><googleplay:description>Conversations on Groong - October 3, 2020
It has now been 7 days since Azerbaijan initiated a wide-scale attack against Armenia and Artsakh. The tragic news of deaths and destruction continue to stream in every hour.
In today’s conversation on Groong, we talk to Jirair Libaridian and Thomas DeWaal about the regional geopolitics that helped create a ripe environment for renewed fighting and various potential scenarios that may develop as a result of it.
Questions explored:
- What was the path leading to the latest escalation?
- Why has Turkey taken an active role in the conflict?
- Was Russia caught off-guard with the escalation?
- Does the OSCE Minsk Process matter anymore?
- How does Iran factor in the conflict?
Guests:
- 𝐓𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐃𝐞𝐖𝐚𝐚𝐥
- 𝐃𝐫. 𝐉𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐧
Host::
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
Produced by:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Episode 18
Recorded on October 2, 2020
Full details: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-ArmAz-Conflict-20201003.html</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5723422-armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-in-regional-context-libaridian-de-waal-oct-3-2020.mp3" length="35438726" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:49:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #18) - 09/27/2020
[EP18]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/18-ann-groong-wir-18-sep-27-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:11:35 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5637460-ann-groong-wir-18-sep-27-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #18) - 09/27/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - (𝐄𝐩 #𝟏𝟖) - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟕/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
- The 29th Anniversary of Armenian Independence;
- Armenia’s foreign policy; 
- Azerbaijan war of disinformation; and lastly
- Opposition trio rally and Tsarukyan’s arrest

Guests
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - (𝐄𝐩 #𝟏𝟖) - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟕/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- The 29th Anniversary of Armenian Independence;
- Armenia’s foreign policy;
- Azerbaijan war of disinformation; and lastly
- Opposition trio rally and Tsarukyan’s arrest
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200927.html
Episode 18 | Recorded on September 26, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - (𝐄𝐩 #𝟏𝟖) - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟕/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- The 29th Anniversary of Armenian Independence;
- Armenia’s foreign policy;
- Azerbaijan war of disinformation; and lastly
- Opposition trio rally and Tsarukyan’s arrest
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200927.html
Episode 18 | Recorded on September 26, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - (𝐄𝐩 #𝟏𝟖) - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟕/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- The 29th Anniversary of Armenian Independence;
- Armenia’s foreign policy;
- Azerbaijan war of disinformation; and lastly
- Opposition trio rally and Tsarukyan’s arrest
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200927.html
Episode 18 | Recorded on September 26, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5637460-ann-groong-wir-18-sep-27-2020.mp3" length="33546840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:46:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #16) - 09/20/2020
[EP16]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/16-ann-groong-wir-16-sep-20-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 03:41:32 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5531860-ann-groong-wir-16-sep-20-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #16) - 09/20/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 -  𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
 - Constitutional Court Appointment
 - Armenia’s Growing National Debt
 - Calls for the Resignation of the Minister of Education
 - Escalated Tensions on the Armenian-Azerbaijan border
    -...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Constitutional Court Appointment
- Armenia’s Growing National Debt
- Calls for the Resignation of the Minister of Education
- Escalated Tensions on the Armenian-Azerbaijan border
- Armenian Soldier dies amidst escalation
- Azerbaijan again slams negotiations, turns away Russian AWACS
- Khodorkovsky Publishes New Dossier on Armenian & Azerbaijan
- Bob Dole hired by Embassy of Armenia as a Lobbyist
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200920.html
Episode 16 | Recorded on September 20, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Constitutional Court Appointment
- Armenia’s Growing National Debt
- Calls for the Resignation of the Minister of Education
- Escalated Tensions on the Armenian-Azerbaijan border
- Armenian Soldier dies amidst escalation
- Azerbaijan again slams negotiations, turns away Russian AWACS
- Khodorkovsky Publishes New Dossier on Armenian & Azerbaijan
- Bob Dole hired by Embassy of Armenia as a Lobbyist
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200920.html
Episode 16 | Recorded on September 20, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Constitutional Court Appointment
- Armenia’s Growing National Debt
- Calls for the Resignation of the Minister of Education
- Escalated Tensions on the Armenian-Azerbaijan border
- Armenian Soldier dies amidst escalation
- Azerbaijan again slams negotiations, turns away Russian AWACS
- Khodorkovsky Publishes New Dossier on Armenian & Azerbaijan
- Bob Dole hired by Embassy of Armenia as a Lobbyist
Guests
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200920.html
Episode 16 | Recorded on September 20, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5531860-ann-groong-wir-16-sep-20-2020.mp3" length="28189335" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:39:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Telecommunications Security in Armenia (Ep #15) - 09/15/2020
[EP15]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/15-david-sandukhchyan-telecommunications-security-in-armenia-15-sep-15-2020/</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:17:48 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5448184-cog-telecommunications-security-in-armenia-15-sep-15-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Telecommunications Security in Armenia (Ep #15) - 09/15/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Armenian News Network/Groong: 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝐒𝐞𝐩 𝟏𝟓, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎)

Conversations on Groong

Background and formulation of the telecoms market in Armenia

Telecommunications market in Armenia started with the monopoly of the...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>Armenian News Network/Groong: 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝐒𝐞𝐩 𝟏𝟓, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎)
Conversations on Groong
Background and formulation of the telecoms market in Armenia
Telecommunications market in Armenia started with the monopoly of the incumbent operator ArmenTel owned jointly by Greek state owned company OTE (90%) and Armenian government (10%). The sale-purchase agreement granted ArmenTel (recently rebranded to VEON) exclusive rights to provide basic telecommunications services including international Internet connectivity, mobile and fixed telephony. ArmenTel’s monopoly remained till 2005 when after a series of negotiations the monopoly on mobile communication was abolished and the second operator entered the market.
In 2007 OTE sold its shares to Vimpelcom, a Russian private company operated under Beeline trademark. Shortly after that Armenian government agreed to sell Vimplecom remained 10% of state owned shares in exchange of liberalization of all telecommunication markets. 2008 can be named as a beginning of Armenian liberal telecommunications market.
Today, Armenia has three major mobile service providers: two (VEON-Armenia and MTS-Armenia) owned by Russian businesses and one (Ucom) owned by a mixed capital of Armenian and Russian rich families. There are also three leading wireline operators: also two Russina (VEON-Armenia and GNC Alpha also known as Rostelecom) and Ucom.
One of the most recent development on Armenian telecom market has been Ucom’s intention to purchase VEON that failed due to criminal charged have been brought against one of its owners, Gurgen Khachatryan, the son of former head of state revenue service authority Gagik Khachatryan, who has been arrested and charged of misuse of state budget and money laundering. The story did not stop on this, but it is out of the today main discussion topic today.
Azerbaijan’s stake in Georgia’s Caucasus Online
Over the past few months, we’ve seen a public tussle between Georgian regulatory firms and a Azeri company called NEQSOL which acquired 49% of Caucasus Online, a Georgian telecommunications company. How does this deal affect Armenian national security given that a significant portion of Armenian internet traffic goes through Georgia (including Caucasus Online)?
National Security Issues related to telecommunications
External nation-state threats:
- Interception
- Traffic analysis
- Denial of service
In general the fact of purchasing or controlling shares by the Azerbaijani company does not result in substantial threats for Armenia in terms of information security. The company would remain Georgian, be under the control of Georgian government and unless major shareholders would take a risk of illegal spying on Armenian data traffic it would affect the security of international communication of Armenian citizens and government. However, it doesn’t mean that situation will remain to be comfortable for Armenia: risks of interception of both voice and data traffic will be increased unless Armenian authorities take appropriate security measures. But, the news is a good trigger to think how Armenia may secure its connectivity with the world and what should be done to improve resilience of the country’s communications system.
What can be done to beef up quality of Armenia’s external communications access?
One of the solutions might be Armenian companies investments in trans-Georgian fiber-optic cable. Georgia has relatively (compared with other countries of the region) liberal telecommunications legislation including enforceable infrastructure sharing regulation. The first step Armenian government must do is to encourage investments in building such a cable system that both Armenian operators and Georgian businesses may benefit from.
Guest: 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧 / Դավիթ Սանդուխչյան
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Telco-20200915.html
Episode 15</itunes:summary><description>Armenian News Network/Groong: 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝐒𝐞𝐩 𝟏𝟓, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎)
Conversations on Groong
Background and formulation of the telecoms market in Armenia
Telecommunications market in Armenia started with the monopoly of the incumbent operator ArmenTel owned jointly by Greek state owned company OTE (90%) and Armenian government (10%). The sale-purchase agreement granted ArmenTel (recently rebranded to VEON) exclusive rights to provide basic telecommunications services including international Internet connectivity, mobile and fixed telephony. ArmenTel’s monopoly remained till 2005 when after a series of negotiations the monopoly on mobile communication was abolished and the second operator entered the market.
In 2007 OTE sold its shares to Vimpelcom, a Russian private company operated under Beeline trademark. Shortly after that Armenian government agreed to sell Vimplecom remained 10% of state owned shares in exchange of liberalization of all telecommunication markets. 2008 can be named as a beginning of Armenian liberal telecommunications market.
Today, Armenia has three major mobile service providers: two (VEON-Armenia and MTS-Armenia) owned by Russian businesses and one (Ucom) owned by a mixed capital of Armenian and Russian rich families. There are also three leading wireline operators: also two Russina (VEON-Armenia and GNC Alpha also known as Rostelecom) and Ucom.
One of the most recent development on Armenian telecom market has been Ucom’s intention to purchase VEON that failed due to criminal charged have been brought against one of its owners, Gurgen Khachatryan, the son of former head of state revenue service authority Gagik Khachatryan, who has been arrested and charged of misuse of state budget and money laundering. The story did not stop on this, but it is out of the today main discussion topic today.
Azerbaijan’s stake in Georgia’s Caucasus Online
Over the past few months, we’ve seen a public tussle between Georgian regulatory firms and a Azeri company called NEQSOL which acquired 49% of Caucasus Online, a Georgian telecommunications company. How does this deal affect Armenian national security given that a significant portion of Armenian internet traffic goes through Georgia (including Caucasus Online)?
National Security Issues related to telecommunications
External nation-state threats:
- Interception
- Traffic analysis
- Denial of service
In general the fact of purchasing or controlling shares by the Azerbaijani company does not result in substantial threats for Armenia in terms of information security. The company would remain Georgian, be under the control of Georgian government and unless major shareholders would take a risk of illegal spying on Armenian data traffic it would affect the security of international communication of Armenian citizens and government. However, it doesn’t mean that situation will remain to be comfortable for Armenia: risks of interception of both voice and data traffic will be increased unless Armenian authorities take appropriate security measures. But, the news is a good trigger to think how Armenia may secure its connectivity with the world and what should be done to improve resilience of the country’s communications system.
What can be done to beef up quality of Armenia’s external communications access?
One of the solutions might be Armenian companies investments in trans-Georgian fiber-optic cable. Georgia has relatively (compared with other countries of the region) liberal telecommunications legislation including enforceable infrastructure sharing regulation. The first step Armenian government must do is to encourage investments in building such a cable system that both Armenian operators and Georgian businesses may benefit from.
Guest: 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧 / Դավիթ Սանդուխչյան
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Telco-20200915.html
Episode 15</description><googleplay:description>Armenian News Network/Groong: 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝐒𝐞𝐩 𝟏𝟓, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎)
Conversations on Groong
Background and formulation of the telecoms market in Armenia
Telecommunications market in Armenia started with the monopoly of the incumbent operator ArmenTel owned jointly by Greek state owned company OTE (90%) and Armenian government (10%). The sale-purchase agreement granted ArmenTel (recently rebranded to VEON) exclusive rights to provide basic telecommunications services including international Internet connectivity, mobile and fixed telephony. ArmenTel’s monopoly remained till 2005 when after a series of negotiations the monopoly on mobile communication was abolished and the second operator entered the market.
In 2007 OTE sold its shares to Vimpelcom, a Russian private company operated under Beeline trademark. Shortly after that Armenian government agreed to sell Vimplecom remained 10% of state owned shares in exchange of liberalization of all telecommunication markets. 2008 can be named as a beginning of Armenian liberal telecommunications market.
Today, Armenia has three major mobile service providers: two (VEON-Armenia and MTS-Armenia) owned by Russian businesses and one (Ucom) owned by a mixed capital of Armenian and Russian rich families. There are also three leading wireline operators: also two Russina (VEON-Armenia and GNC Alpha also known as Rostelecom) and Ucom.
One of the most recent development on Armenian telecom market has been Ucom’s intention to purchase VEON that failed due to criminal charged have been brought against one of its owners, Gurgen Khachatryan, the son of former head of state revenue service authority Gagik Khachatryan, who has been arrested and charged of misuse of state budget and money laundering. The story did not stop on this, but it is out of the today main discussion topic today.
Azerbaijan’s stake in Georgia’s Caucasus Online
Over the past few months, we’ve seen a public tussle between Georgian regulatory firms and a Azeri company called NEQSOL which acquired 49% of Caucasus Online, a Georgian telecommunications company. How does this deal affect Armenian national security given that a significant portion of Armenian internet traffic goes through Georgia (including Caucasus Online)?
National Security Issues related to telecommunications
External nation-state threats:
- Interception
- Traffic analysis
- Denial of service
In general the fact of purchasing or controlling shares by the Azerbaijani company does not result in substantial threats for Armenia in terms of information security. The company would remain Georgian, be under the control of Georgian government and unless major shareholders would take a risk of illegal spying on Armenian data traffic it would affect the security of international communication of Armenian citizens and government. However, it doesn’t mean that situation will remain to be comfortable for Armenia: risks of interception of both voice and data traffic will be increased unless Armenian authorities take appropriate security measures. But, the news is a good trigger to think how Armenia may secure its connectivity with the world and what should be done to improve resilience of the country’s communications system.
What can be done to beef up quality of Armenia’s external communications access?
One of the solutions might be Armenian companies investments in trans-Georgian fiber-optic cable. Georgia has relatively (compared with other countries of the region) liberal telecommunications legislation including enforceable infrastructure sharing regulation. The first step Armenian government must do is to encourage investments in building such a cable system that both Armenian operators and Georgian businesses may benefit from.
Guest: 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧 / Դավիթ Սանդուխչյան
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Telco-20200915.html
Episode 15</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5448184-cog-telecommunications-security-in-armenia-15-sep-15-2020.mp3" length="30877437" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #14) - 09/13/2020
[EP14]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/14-ann-groong-wir-14-sep-13-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5429056-ann-groong-wir-14-sep-13-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #14) - 09/13/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
- Electoral Reforms in Armenia
- Journalist Dana Mazalová passes away
- ANSEF Reorganization
- My Step MP Arsen Julfalakyan Resigns from Parliament
- Russian Opposition Leader Navalny’s Poisoning...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Electoral Reforms in Armenia
- Journalist Dana Mazalová passes away
- ANSEF Reorganization
- My Step MP Arsen Julfalakyan Resigns from Parliament
- Russian Opposition Leader Navalny’s Poisoning and Recovery
- What is going on in Baku?
- Azeri pressure on Arms Providers to Armenia
- Aliyev vs. Aliyeva?
- Caucasus 2020 Joint Military Exercises and those MIA
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200913.html
Episode 14 | Recorded on September 13, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Electoral Reforms in Armenia
- Journalist Dana Mazalová passes away
- ANSEF Reorganization
- My Step MP Arsen Julfalakyan Resigns from Parliament
- Russian Opposition Leader Navalny’s Poisoning and Recovery
- What is going on in Baku?
- Azeri pressure on Arms Providers to Armenia
- Aliyev vs. Aliyeva?
- Caucasus 2020 Joint Military Exercises and those MIA
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200913.html
Episode 14 | Recorded on September 13, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟏𝟑/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Electoral Reforms in Armenia
- Journalist Dana Mazalová passes away
- ANSEF Reorganization
- My Step MP Arsen Julfalakyan Resigns from Parliament
- Russian Opposition Leader Navalny’s Poisoning and Recovery
- What is going on in Baku?
- Azeri pressure on Arms Providers to Armenia
- Aliyev vs. Aliyeva?
- Caucasus 2020 Joint Military Exercises and those MIA
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200913.html
Episode 14 | Recorded on September 13, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5429056-ann-groong-wir-14-sep-13-2020.mp3" length="32370076" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:44:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #13) - 09/06/2020
[EP13]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/13-ann-groong-wir-13-sep-6-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2020 02:19:04 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5327428-ann-groong-wir-13-sep-6-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #13) - 09/06/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
- Adios Madrid?
- A New Repatriation Package &amp; iGorts
- Adios Torosyan?
- Update on Covid in Armenia / State of Emergency
- Panelist Soapboxes

Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
-...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Adios Madrid?
- A New Repatriation Package & iGorts
- Adios Torosyan?
- Update on Covid in Armenia / State of Emergency
- Panelist Soapboxes
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200906.html
Episode 13 | Recorded on September 6, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Adios Madrid?
- A New Repatriation Package & iGorts
- Adios Torosyan?
- Update on Covid in Armenia / State of Emergency
- Panelist Soapboxes
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200906.html
Episode 13 | Recorded on September 6, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Adios Madrid?
- A New Repatriation Package & iGorts
- Adios Torosyan?
- Update on Covid in Armenia / State of Emergency
- Panelist Soapboxes
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200906.html
Episode 13 | Recorded on September 6, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5327428-ann-groong-wir-13-sep-6-2020.mp3" length="32442485" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:44:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Judicial Reforms, Data Protection and Privacy - (Ep #12) - 09/05/2020
[EP12]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/12-cog-judicial-reforms-data-protection-and-privacy-in-armenia-12-sep-5-2020/</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 02:19:10 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5313928-cog-judicial-reforms-data-protection-and-privacy-in-armenia-12-sep-5-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Judicial Reforms, Data Protection and Privacy - (Ep #12) - 09/05/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐬, 𝐃𝐚𝐭𝐚 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐲 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟓/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Conversations on Groong

Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐬, 𝐃𝐚𝐭𝐚 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐲 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟓/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential in foreign direct investment (FDI)? Why do many Armenian startups incorporate in foreign countries, and use Armenia as their offshore labor resource?
Our Guest is
David Sandukhchyan is a lawyer with 20 years of experience in telecommunications, cyber law, media and personal data protection. He started his legal career as an Internet freedom advocate and made substantial contributions to the development of media, telecommunication and technology legislation in Armenia. David was Chief Counsel for over 8 years at Beeline, one of the leading Armenian telecom operators. From 2005 to 2007 he was a member of the Council of Europe expert group on human rights in information society and committee of experts on electronic democracy.
Today David lives in Toronto, Canada and as a private consultant he is involved in many Internet freedom, data protection and telecommunications development projects. He holds a BA degree in law and a Master’s in physics. He is a certified ISO information security auditor with a Certificate in Advanced Cyber Security from York University in Toronto.
Analysis and Discussion
- What were some of the major headaches of the chief counsel for one of the largest telecom operators in Armenia?
- How did the government’s relationship with large companies evolve over your nearly a decade at Armentel?
- Are there citizen initiatives like the EFF to champion privacy protections in Armenia?
Armenia prides itself as the “Silicon Valley of the former USSR” and we have seen some successes where a number of Armenian startups eventually got a significant amount of VC investment in Armenia. Some of the major success stories pride themselves in having a value that’s measured in the hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. For instance, the best-known startup PicsArt has received $65 million VC investment so far according to Crunchbase. Another popular startup Krisp is in the Series A funding stage with $8.5 million so far, and there are more examples.
But there is a common pattern we’re seeing. In both cases, we’ve seen these startups re-incorporate in the US (specifically Silicon Valley) prior to getting investments. What this means in reality is that these companies become US companies and the value of the company largely transfers from Armenia to the US, leaving the Armenian branch as an outsourcing center for the US company.
Armenia is compliant with EU regulations, so the laws are pretty good. But the way Armenina works is not great because it works on the basis that people should trust the government. But the basis for this trust is not in place. What are the causes for this?
- Lack of trust by foreign investors because their capital is not protected;
- Judiciary: personalities & processes;
- Kompromat as part of “the system”;
- Armenian government's stance on the issue of privacy, media freedoms.
Guest
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Judiciary-Privacy-20200905.html
Episode 12 | Recorded on --</itunes:summary><description>𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐬, 𝐃𝐚𝐭𝐚 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐲 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟓/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential in foreign direct investment (FDI)? Why do many Armenian startups incorporate in foreign countries, and use Armenia as their offshore labor resource?
Our Guest is
David Sandukhchyan is a lawyer with 20 years of experience in telecommunications, cyber law, media and personal data protection. He started his legal career as an Internet freedom advocate and made substantial contributions to the development of media, telecommunication and technology legislation in Armenia. David was Chief Counsel for over 8 years at Beeline, one of the leading Armenian telecom operators. From 2005 to 2007 he was a member of the Council of Europe expert group on human rights in information society and committee of experts on electronic democracy.
Today David lives in Toronto, Canada and as a private consultant he is involved in many Internet freedom, data protection and telecommunications development projects. He holds a BA degree in law and a Master’s in physics. He is a certified ISO information security auditor with a Certificate in Advanced Cyber Security from York University in Toronto.
Analysis and Discussion
- What were some of the major headaches of the chief counsel for one of the largest telecom operators in Armenia?
- How did the government’s relationship with large companies evolve over your nearly a decade at Armentel?
- Are there citizen initiatives like the EFF to champion privacy protections in Armenia?
Armenia prides itself as the “Silicon Valley of the former USSR” and we have seen some successes where a number of Armenian startups eventually got a significant amount of VC investment in Armenia. Some of the major success stories pride themselves in having a value that’s measured in the hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. For instance, the best-known startup PicsArt has received $65 million VC investment so far according to Crunchbase. Another popular startup Krisp is in the Series A funding stage with $8.5 million so far, and there are more examples.
But there is a common pattern we’re seeing. In both cases, we’ve seen these startups re-incorporate in the US (specifically Silicon Valley) prior to getting investments. What this means in reality is that these companies become US companies and the value of the company largely transfers from Armenia to the US, leaving the Armenian branch as an outsourcing center for the US company.
Armenia is compliant with EU regulations, so the laws are pretty good. But the way Armenina works is not great because it works on the basis that people should trust the government. But the basis for this trust is not in place. What are the causes for this?
- Lack of trust by foreign investors because their capital is not protected;
- Judiciary: personalities & processes;
- Kompromat as part of “the system”;
- Armenian government's stance on the issue of privacy, media freedoms.
Guest
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Judiciary-Privacy-20200905.html
Episode 12 | Recorded on --</description><googleplay:description>𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐬, 𝐃𝐚𝐭𝐚 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐲 - 𝟎𝟗/𝟎𝟓/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
Armenia has European grade laws in the areas of finance, business, data protection and privacy. What is preventing Armenia from achieving its full potential in foreign direct investment (FDI)? Why do many Armenian startups incorporate in foreign countries, and use Armenia as their offshore labor resource?
Our Guest is
David Sandukhchyan is a lawyer with 20 years of experience in telecommunications, cyber law, media and personal data protection. He started his legal career as an Internet freedom advocate and made substantial contributions to the development of media, telecommunication and technology legislation in Armenia. David was Chief Counsel for over 8 years at Beeline, one of the leading Armenian telecom operators. From 2005 to 2007 he was a member of the Council of Europe expert group on human rights in information society and committee of experts on electronic democracy.
Today David lives in Toronto, Canada and as a private consultant he is involved in many Internet freedom, data protection and telecommunications development projects. He holds a BA degree in law and a Master’s in physics. He is a certified ISO information security auditor with a Certificate in Advanced Cyber Security from York University in Toronto.
Analysis and Discussion
- What were some of the major headaches of the chief counsel for one of the largest telecom operators in Armenia?
- How did the government’s relationship with large companies evolve over your nearly a decade at Armentel?
- Are there citizen initiatives like the EFF to champion privacy protections in Armenia?
Armenia prides itself as the “Silicon Valley of the former USSR” and we have seen some successes where a number of Armenian startups eventually got a significant amount of VC investment in Armenia. Some of the major success stories pride themselves in having a value that’s measured in the hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. For instance, the best-known startup PicsArt has received $65 million VC investment so far according to Crunchbase. Another popular startup Krisp is in the Series A funding stage with $8.5 million so far, and there are more examples.
But there is a common pattern we’re seeing. In both cases, we’ve seen these startups re-incorporate in the US (specifically Silicon Valley) prior to getting investments. What this means in reality is that these companies become US companies and the value of the company largely transfers from Armenia to the US, leaving the Armenian branch as an outsourcing center for the US company.
Armenia is compliant with EU regulations, so the laws are pretty good. But the way Armenina works is not great because it works on the basis that people should trust the government. But the basis for this trust is not in place. What are the causes for this?
- Lack of trust by foreign investors because their capital is not protected;
- Judiciary: personalities & processes;
- Kompromat as part of “the system”;
- Armenian government's stance on the issue of privacy, media freedoms.
Guest
- 𝐃𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐡𝐜𝐡𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Judiciary-Privacy-20200905.html
Episode 12 | Recorded on --</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5313928-cog-judicial-reforms-data-protection-and-privacy-in-armenia-12-sep-5-2020.mp3" length="30704122" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:42:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #11) - 08/30/2020
[EP11]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/11-ann-groong-wir-11-aug-30-2020/</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:17:35 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5218153-ann-groong-wir-11-aug-30-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #11) - 08/30/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟑𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
- Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
- Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
- Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
- National Awards
- Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟑𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
- Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
- Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
- National Awards
- Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as Chief Advisor to Pashinyan
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200830.html
Episode 11 | Recorded on August 30 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟑𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
- Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
- Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
- National Awards
- Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as Chief Advisor to Pashinyan
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200830.html
Episode 11 | Recorded on August 30 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟑𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- Armenian POW Gurgen Alaverdyan
- Armenia’s Humanitarian Aid to Aleppo
- Serge Sargsyan’s Interview and the Four-Day War Deliberations
- National Awards
- Vagharshak Harutyunyan’s Appointment as Chief Advisor to Pashinyan
Guests:
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts:
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200830.html
Episode 11 | Recorded on August 30 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5218153-ann-groong-wir-11-aug-30-2020.mp3" length="29968900" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Education Reform in Armenia - (Ep #7) - 08/10/2020
[EP7]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/7-cog-education-reform-in-armenia-7-aug-13-2020/</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2020 02:53:09 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4976648-cog-education-reform-in-armenia-7-aug-13-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Education Reform in Armenia - (Ep #7) - 08/10/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐄𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 talks with 𝐀𝐫𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧 &amp; 𝐒𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐬𝐡 𝐃𝐯𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧

Topics:

Background of education reform(s) in Armenia
In depth analysis of the content, standards &amp; measurable outcomes...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐄𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 talks with 𝐀𝐫𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧 & 𝐒𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐬𝐡 𝐃𝐯𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
Topics:
Background of education reform(s) in Armenia
In depth analysis of the content, standards & measurable outcomes of the proposed curriculum’s history & literature segments.
Challenges of implementing the proposed curriculum
In recent months, Armenia’s government has published its proposal for K-12 curriculum reform in Armenian schools. The new curriculum, which includes education standards and learning outcomes, proved to be quite controversial with many individuals and groups criticizing one aspect or another of the proposed curriculum notably the segments on literature and Armenian history. These criticisms ranged from in-depth critique of the content of the proposed plan to outlandish and sometimes baseless accusations. In order to shed some light on this issue specifically the history and literature components of the new proposed curriculum, this week we have invited two scholars who have been following these debates and the content of the new curriculum intimately.
Asbed Kotchikian is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and former Soviet space. Prof. Kotchikian is also a consultant for international organizations on issues of judicial reform, ways to combat radicalization and on ethnic and religious minorities. He discusses the proposed reforms with:
Prof. Ara Sanjian is Associate Professor of History and the Director of the Armenian Research Center at University of Michigan, Dearborn. He received his undergraduate degree from Yerevan State University (YSU) in what was then the Soviet Republic of Armenia, and has been involved in numerous academic projects in Armenia. His research interests focus on the post-World War I history of Armenia, Turkey and the Arab states of Western Asia. And:
Prof. Siranush Dvoyan is a literary studies scholar and associate professor of Armenian and Comparative Literature at the American University of Armenia. She is a graduate of YSU and taught there for over a decade.
Discussion:
- Brief background
- The background of the current proposed curriculum: When was it conceived and what has its development process been like and who were involved in the committee?
- In terms of content, how does the proposed curriculum compare to the previous one? What are some of the main changes, additions, omissions?
-- In literature?
-- In history?
- About the standards and measurements of the proposed curricula: How realistic and feasible are the norms, standards and measurable outcomes as defined by the new curriculum?
- About the implementation (pedagogy) of the proposed curricula: how feasible is it? Is there a trained and knowledgeable workforce of teachers and instructors with mastery of the proposed content, to deliver it with excellence to students?
- Rating of the current AND the proposed curricula.
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Education-Reform-20200813.html
Episode 7 | Recorded on August 13, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐄𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 talks with 𝐀𝐫𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧 & 𝐒𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐬𝐡 𝐃𝐯𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
Topics:
Background of education reform(s) in Armenia
In depth analysis of the content, standards & measurable outcomes of the proposed curriculum’s history & literature segments.
Challenges of implementing the proposed curriculum
In recent months, Armenia’s government has published its proposal for K-12 curriculum reform in Armenian schools. The new curriculum, which includes education standards and learning outcomes, proved to be quite controversial with many individuals and groups criticizing one aspect or another of the proposed curriculum notably the segments on literature and Armenian history. These criticisms ranged from in-depth critique of the content of the proposed plan to outlandish and sometimes baseless accusations. In order to shed some light on this issue specifically the history and literature components of the new proposed curriculum, this week we have invited two scholars who have been following these debates and the content of the new curriculum intimately.
Asbed Kotchikian is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and former Soviet space. Prof. Kotchikian is also a consultant for international organizations on issues of judicial reform, ways to combat radicalization and on ethnic and religious minorities. He discusses the proposed reforms with:
Prof. Ara Sanjian is Associate Professor of History and the Director of the Armenian Research Center at University of Michigan, Dearborn. He received his undergraduate degree from Yerevan State University (YSU) in what was then the Soviet Republic of Armenia, and has been involved in numerous academic projects in Armenia. His research interests focus on the post-World War I history of Armenia, Turkey and the Arab states of Western Asia. And:
Prof. Siranush Dvoyan is a literary studies scholar and associate professor of Armenian and Comparative Literature at the American University of Armenia. She is a graduate of YSU and taught there for over a decade.
Discussion:
- Brief background
- The background of the current proposed curriculum: When was it conceived and what has its development process been like and who were involved in the committee?
- In terms of content, how does the proposed curriculum compare to the previous one? What are some of the main changes, additions, omissions?
-- In literature?
-- In history?
- About the standards and measurements of the proposed curricula: How realistic and feasible are the norms, standards and measurable outcomes as defined by the new curriculum?
- About the implementation (pedagogy) of the proposed curricula: how feasible is it? Is there a trained and knowledgeable workforce of teachers and instructors with mastery of the proposed content, to deliver it with excellence to students?
- Rating of the current AND the proposed curricula.
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Education-Reform-20200813.html
Episode 7 | Recorded on August 13, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐄𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦 𝐢𝐧 𝐀𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟎/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Conversations on Groong
𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧 talks with 𝐀𝐫𝐚 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧 & 𝐒𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐬𝐡 𝐃𝐯𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
Topics:
Background of education reform(s) in Armenia
In depth analysis of the content, standards & measurable outcomes of the proposed curriculum’s history & literature segments.
Challenges of implementing the proposed curriculum
In recent months, Armenia’s government has published its proposal for K-12 curriculum reform in Armenian schools. The new curriculum, which includes education standards and learning outcomes, proved to be quite controversial with many individuals and groups criticizing one aspect or another of the proposed curriculum notably the segments on literature and Armenian history. These criticisms ranged from in-depth critique of the content of the proposed plan to outlandish and sometimes baseless accusations. In order to shed some light on this issue specifically the history and literature components of the new proposed curriculum, this week we have invited two scholars who have been following these debates and the content of the new curriculum intimately.
Asbed Kotchikian is a senior lecturer of political science and international relations at Bentley University in Massachusetts where he teaches courses on the Middle East and former Soviet space. Prof. Kotchikian is also a consultant for international organizations on issues of judicial reform, ways to combat radicalization and on ethnic and religious minorities. He discusses the proposed reforms with:
Prof. Ara Sanjian is Associate Professor of History and the Director of the Armenian Research Center at University of Michigan, Dearborn. He received his undergraduate degree from Yerevan State University (YSU) in what was then the Soviet Republic of Armenia, and has been involved in numerous academic projects in Armenia. His research interests focus on the post-World War I history of Armenia, Turkey and the Arab states of Western Asia. And:
Prof. Siranush Dvoyan is a literary studies scholar and associate professor of Armenian and Comparative Literature at the American University of Armenia. She is a graduate of YSU and taught there for over a decade.
Discussion:
- Brief background
- The background of the current proposed curriculum: When was it conceived and what has its development process been like and who were involved in the committee?
- In terms of content, how does the proposed curriculum compare to the previous one? What are some of the main changes, additions, omissions?
-- In literature?
-- In history?
- About the standards and measurements of the proposed curricula: How realistic and feasible are the norms, standards and measurable outcomes as defined by the new curriculum?
- About the implementation (pedagogy) of the proposed curricula: how feasible is it? Is there a trained and knowledgeable workforce of teachers and instructors with mastery of the proposed content, to deliver it with excellence to students?
- Rating of the current AND the proposed curricula.
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/CoG-Education-Reform-20200813.html
Episode 7 | Recorded on August 13, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4976648-cog-education-reform-in-armenia-7-aug-13-2020.mp3" length="30274605" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:41:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Turkey - Part 2 - Zero Problems? | Ep. 10 - Aug 28, 2020
[EP10]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/10-cog-turkey-part-2-10-aug-28-2020/</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 00:55:50 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5195833-cog-turkey-part-2-10-aug-28-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Kotchikian,
Asbed Bedrossian,
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Turkey - Part 2 - Zero Problems? | Ep. 10 - Aug 28, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 08/28/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Topics:
* Turkey: Zero Problems?
* Azerbaijan: The Myth of Brotherly Relations?
* Armenia: From Diplomatic Overtures to a Mini Cold War
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 10 | Recorded: August 2020</itunes:summary><description>
#### Topics:
* Turkey: Zero Problems?
* Azerbaijan: The Myth of Brotherly Relations?
* Armenia: From Diplomatic Overtures to a Mini Cold War
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 10 | Recorded: August 2020</description><googleplay:description>
#### Topics:
* Turkey: Zero Problems?
* Azerbaijan: The Myth of Brotherly Relations?
* Armenia: From Diplomatic Overtures to a Mini Cold War
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 10 | Recorded: August 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="overview">Overview</h2>
<p>In this second part of our Conversation on Turkey, we continue to explore Turkey’s transformation throughout the twentieth century and into the twenty first, and the underlying dynamics powering these changes.</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/10/thumbnail-10.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/10/thumbnail-10.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5195833-cog-turkey-part-2-10-aug-28-2020.mp3" length="31873277" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:44:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Turkey - Part 1 - Transformation and Continuity | Ep. 9 - Aug 24, 2020
[EP9]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/9-cog-turkey-part-1-9-aug-24-2020/</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:55:50 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5138791-cog-turkey-part-1-9-aug-24-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Asbed Kotchikian,
Asbed Bedrossian,
and Hovik Manucharyan</itunes:author><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Turkey - Part 1 - Transformation and Continuity | Ep. 9 - Aug 24, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        Conversations on Groong - 08/24/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>#### Topics:
* Turkey’s Transformation in Historical Perspective
* Change and Continuity of Turkish Political Culture
* Turkey’s Foreign Policy
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 9 | Recorded: August 2020</itunes:summary><description>
#### Topics:
* Turkey’s Transformation in Historical Perspective
* Change and Continuity of Turkish Political Culture
* Turkey’s Foreign Policy
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 9 | Recorded: August 2020</description><googleplay:description>
#### Topics:
* Turkey’s Transformation in Historical Perspective
* Change and Continuity of Turkish Political Culture
* Turkey’s Foreign Policy
#### Guests:
* [Varuzhan Geghamyan](/guest/vgeghamyan)
* [Ara Sanjian](/guest/asanjian)
* [Vahram Ter-Matevosyan](/guest/asanjian)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Host:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
Episode 9 | Recorded: August 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="overview">Overview</h2>
<p>In 2002, Turkey’s Justice and Development Party (AKP) won a sweeping victory in the country’s general elections, dominating and shaping domestic and foreign policies of Turkey for nearly two decades to this date. Outwardly, under Erdogan’s and AKP’s leadership, Turkey has transformed from a country with a stated and acclaimed foreign policy seeking “zero problems with neighbors” to one that is actively engaged in economic, political and military rivalry with its Middle East and other regional neighbors, as well as balancing global players. Armenia is deeply affected by the quality of relationships that Turkey conducts with each of its neighbors.</p>
<p>In this first part of our Conversation on Groong about Turkey, we explore Continuity and Change in Political Culture and Foreign Policy in Turkey covering transition from Kemalism to Islamism, as defined by the AKP. We look at how recent events fit together within the framework of continuous, yet changing, state policies. We also discuss Turkey’s foreign policy in the Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean.</p>
<h2 id="analysis-and-discussion">Analysis and Discussion</h2>
<h4 id="turkeys-transformation-in-historical-perspective-from-kemalism-to-islamism">Turkey’s Transformation in Historical Perspective from Kemalism to Islamism</h4>
<h4 id="change-and-continuity-of-turkish-political-culture">Change and Continuity of Turkish Political Culture</h4>
<p>How have those changes influenced Turkey’s policies domestically (minorities, political parties, etc) as well as in its Foregin policy?</p>
<h4 id="turkeys-foreign-policy">Turkey’s Foreign Policy</h4>
<p>Turkey has been pursuing a more active foreign policy. What are the driving forces behind this foreign policy? How can we explain Turkish expanding influence from its immediate neighborhood to the larger mediterranean?</p>
<p>The Middle East &amp; the Mediterranean (Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Greece)</p>
<h1 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h1>
<p>All right, that’s our <a href="https://podcasts.groong.org/">show</a>, we hope you found it useful. Please find us on <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong">Social Media</a> and follow us everywhere you get your Armenian news, the links are in the show notes. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts. We’ll talk to you soon!</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/9/thumbnail-9.webp"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/9/thumbnail-9.webp"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5138791-cog-turkey-part-1-9-aug-24-2020.mp3" length="24636207" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:34:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #8) - 08/16/2020
[EP8]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/8-ann-groong-wir-8-aug-16-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:43:33 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5029382-ann-groong-wir-8-aug-16-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #8) - 08/16/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

This Week in Review we talk with Hrant Mikaelian to discuss important issues and developments around Armenia, such as the Coronavirus Pandemic, and its economic effect; Armenia’s membership in EurAsian...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
This Week in Review we talk with Hrant Mikaelian to discuss important issues and developments around Armenia, such as the Coronavirus Pandemic, and its economic effect; Armenia’s membership in EurAsian Economic Union and the economic effect of that organization on Armenia; and some of the trends affecting Russia and its economy.
Hrant will then join us in our weekly lightning round of questions from the past week’s headlines, to analyze Prime Minister Pashinyan’s interview with BBC’s HARDtalk; the presidential elections in Belarus; and the continuing standoff at Amulsar Gold Mine between Lydian and local residents and environmental activists.
Topics:
1. Interview with Hrant Mikaelian
2. Lightning Round
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Interview on BBC HARDtalk
- Belarus Presidential Elections
- Amulsar Gold Mine
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐲𝐨𝐦 𝐓𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200816.html
Episode 8 | Recorded on August 16, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
This Week in Review we talk with Hrant Mikaelian to discuss important issues and developments around Armenia, such as the Coronavirus Pandemic, and its economic effect; Armenia’s membership in EurAsian Economic Union and the economic effect of that organization on Armenia; and some of the trends affecting Russia and its economy.
Hrant will then join us in our weekly lightning round of questions from the past week’s headlines, to analyze Prime Minister Pashinyan’s interview with BBC’s HARDtalk; the presidential elections in Belarus; and the continuing standoff at Amulsar Gold Mine between Lydian and local residents and environmental activists.
Topics:
1. Interview with Hrant Mikaelian
2. Lightning Round
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Interview on BBC HARDtalk
- Belarus Presidential Elections
- Amulsar Gold Mine
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐲𝐨𝐦 𝐓𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200816.html
Episode 8 | Recorded on August 16, 2020</description><googleplay:description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟏𝟔/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
This Week in Review we talk with Hrant Mikaelian to discuss important issues and developments around Armenia, such as the Coronavirus Pandemic, and its economic effect; Armenia’s membership in EurAsian Economic Union and the economic effect of that organization on Armenia; and some of the trends affecting Russia and its economy.
Hrant will then join us in our weekly lightning round of questions from the past week’s headlines, to analyze Prime Minister Pashinyan’s interview with BBC’s HARDtalk; the presidential elections in Belarus; and the continuing standoff at Amulsar Gold Mine between Lydian and local residents and environmental activists.
Topics:
1. Interview with Hrant Mikaelian
2. Lightning Round
- Nikol Pashinyan’s Interview on BBC HARDtalk
- Belarus Presidential Elections
- Amulsar Gold Mine
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐇𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐫𝐭𝐲𝐨𝐦 𝐓𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200816.html
Episode 8 | Recorded on August 16, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded>&lt;p>Show Notes&lt;/p>
</content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/5029382-ann-groong-wir-8-aug-16-2020.mp3" length="40172954" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>0:55:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #6) - 08/09/2020
[EP6]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/6-ann-groong-wir-6-aug-9-2020/</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4930964-ann-groong-wir-6-aug-9-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>ANN/Groong Week in Review - (Ep #6) - 08/09/2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎

Topics:
  - The Massive Explosion in Beirut
  - Lightning Round
    - Turkey-Azerbaijan Military Exercises
    - Mashtots Park
    - Cyber Security Intrusion
    - Law on Media Regulation
    - Beirut...
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- The Massive Explosion in Beirut
- Lightning Round
- Turkey-Azerbaijan Military Exercises
- Mashtots Park
- Cyber Security Intrusion
- Law on Media Regulation
- Beirut Explosion
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐘𝐞𝐠𝐡𝐢𝐚 𝐓𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐁𝐞𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧
Website: https://groong.org/podcasts/WiR-20200809.html
Episode 6 | Recorded on August 9, 2020</itunes:summary><description>𝐀𝐍𝐍/𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐖𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 - 𝟎𝟖/𝟎𝟗/𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎
Topics:
- The Massive Explosion in Beirut
- Lightning Round
- Turkey-Azerbaijan Military Exercises
- Mashtots Park
- Cyber Security Intrusion
- Law on Media Regulation
- Beirut Explosion
Guests
- 𝐀𝐬𝐛𝐞𝐝 𝐊𝐨𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐄𝐦𝐢𝐥 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐲𝐚𝐧
- 𝐘𝐞𝐠𝐡𝐢𝐚 𝐓𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐣𝐢𝐚𝐧
- 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐧 𝐙𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐚𝐧
Hosts
- 𝐇𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐤 𝐌𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐚𝐧
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Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#WordsNotSwords | Kocharyan Interview | SIS Charges Arthur Danielyan | Constitutional Court Nominees | State of Covid | Changes in Diaspora High Commissioner Office | Headlines | People | Ep 8 - Aug 2, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - 08/02/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 08/02/2020
#### Topics:
* Living With Conflict #WordsNotSwords
* Panel Discussion on Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Lightning Round
* The SIS Charges Arthur Danielyan
* Nominees for the Constitutional Court
* The PM’s Outlook on the State of the Pandemic
* Staff Changes in the Diaspora High Commissioner’s Office
#### Guests
* [Arzu Geybulla](/guest/ageybulla)
* [Ulvi Ismayil](/guest/uismayil)
* [Artyom Tonoyan](/guest/atonoyan)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Resident panelists:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 5 | Recorded ob August 2, 2020</itunes:summary><description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 08/02/2020
#### Topics:
* Living With Conflict #WordsNotSwords
* Panel Discussion on Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Lightning Round
* The SIS Charges Arthur Danielyan
* Nominees for the Constitutional Court
* The PM’s Outlook on the State of the Pandemic
* Staff Changes in the Diaspora High Commissioner’s Office
#### Guests
* [Arzu Geybulla](/guest/ageybulla)
* [Ulvi Ismayil](/guest/uismayil)
* [Artyom Tonoyan](/guest/atonoyan)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Resident panelists:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 5 | Recorded ob August 2, 2020</description><googleplay:description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 08/02/2020
#### Topics:
* Living With Conflict #WordsNotSwords
* Panel Discussion on Robert Kocharyan’s Interview
* Lightning Round
* The SIS Charges Arthur Danielyan
* Nominees for the Constitutional Court
* The PM’s Outlook on the State of the Pandemic
* Staff Changes in the Diaspora High Commissioner’s Office
#### Guests
* [Arzu Geybulla](/guest/ageybulla)
* [Ulvi Ismayil](/guest/uismayil)
* [Artyom Tonoyan](/guest/atonoyan)
* [Diana Yayloyan](/guest/dyayloyan)
#### Resident panelists:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 5 | Recorded ob August 2, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="wordsnotswords">Living With Conflict #WordsNotSwords</h2>
<h3 id="overview">Overview</h3>
<p>From July 12 to July 17 Armenia and Azerbaijan clashed on their border, killing tens of servicemen and civilians from both sides. In the following week the press and propaganda from both sides picked up in an effort to align international opinion and sympathies on their side, and some demonstrations in cities around the world got out of hand, resulting in violence between protestors, injuries and arrests.</p>
<p>Even more worrisome, the violence spilled over to ordinary citizens and businesses in some diaspora communities. According to media reports restaurants and other businesses in Moscow were attacked by groups from opposing sides. Individual Azerbaijanis and Armenians, including children, were targets of random attacks. In some cases, humiliating videos of the victims being beaten were posted on social media. In Moscow police arrested over 30 people connected to the violence. We also read reports of vandalism of an Armenian <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/?post_id=10163778097325585">school</a> in San Francisco, attacks against individuals and businesses around the world, including <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163800487835585/">Turkey</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163796362525585/">Germany</a>, other places in Europe and in the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163786719465585/">US</a>.</p>
<p>Observers indicate that this level of animosity between communities did not exist even during the worst days of war. The violence in the diaspora led some scholars, both Azerbaijani and Armenian, to call on their respective communities to renounce from street violence and re-engage in peaceful activism.</p>
<p>We are joined today by some of the initiating signatories of that call:</p>
<ul>
<li>Dr. <a href="https://twitter.com/artyomtonoyan">Artyom Tonoyan</a> - Originally from Gyumri, Armenia, Dr. Artyom Tonoyan is a Research Associate at the University of Minnesota&rsquo;s Center for Holocaust &amp; Genocide Studies, where his research is focused on the nexus of religion and violence.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/arzugeybulla">Arzu Geybulla</a> - Arzu is an Azerbaijani columnist and writer, with special focus in digital authoritarianism and its implications on human rights and press freedom in Azerbaijan. Arzu has written for Al Jazeera, Eurasianet, Foreign Policy Democracy Lab, Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty, CODA and more. She is a contributor at Open Democracy, IWPR, and Osservatorio Balcani e Caucaso.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/ulvi_ismayil">Ulvi Ismayil</a> - Ulvi is a historian and researcher, based in Washington, D.C. and originally from Baku. He works with international development organizations such as UNHCR and USAID and has been involved in Azerbaijan-Armenian peace-making multilateral projects since 2004. He has written on the subject and has even developed his own peace proposal.  Ulvi was a co-author of a joint petition drafted in 2014 calling the sides to observe peace along the line of contact.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/emil_sanamyan">Emil Sanamyan</a> - Emil Sanamyan, who is a senior research fellow at USC’s Institute of Armenian Studies specializing in politics in the Caucasus, with a special focus on Azerbaijan. He is a regular contributor to ANN/Groong.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/Diana_Yayloyan">Diana Yayloyan</a> - Diana Yayloyan is a Research Associate at the Ankara-based think tank TEPAV, working on Armenia-Turkey civil society dialogue supported by the European Union. She is also a Ph.D. Candidate at the Middle East Technical University with a focus on Gender &amp; Peacebuilding.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="sources">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li>Artyom Tonoyan’s <a href="https://twitter.com/ArtyomTonoyan/status/1286659363617280000">tweet on #WordsNotSwords</a></li>
<li>Dr. Katy Pearce’s <a href="https://twitter.com/katypearce/status/1286744501814403072">geovirtual spread analysis</a> on #WordsNotSwords</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23wordsnotswords&amp;src=typed_query">#WordsNotSwords</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="panel-discussion-on-robert-kocharyan’s-interview">Panel Discussion on Robert Kocharyan’s Interview</h2>
<h3 id="overview">Overview</h3>
<p>In July, former President Robert Kocharyan gave an interview to 3 news sources (5րդ Ալիք, Հ2, and Yerkir Media) where he talked about issues ranging from internal politics to NKR conflict and regional developments.</p>
<p>We are joined by our resident panel, Asbed Kotchikian, Emil Sanamyan and Alen Zamanyan.</p>
<h4 id="sources">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li>Robert Kocharyan’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZpLrQDxcBs&amp;feature=youtu.be">interview</a> with <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvhOxd4DL1kUZLOPJV-K-aA">5 TV</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Armeniah2tv">H2</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/YerkirmediaTV">Yerkir Media</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="lightning-round">Lightning Round</h2>
<h3 id="the-sis-charges-arthur-danielyan">The SIS Charges Arthur Danielyan</h3>
<p>This week the SIS brought charges against Arthur Danielyan for the fight with Alen Simonyan in the streets of Yerevan. No charges have been leveled against Alen Simonyan.</p>
<h3 id="nominees-for-the-constitutional-court">Nominees for the Constitutional Court</h3>
<p>A faction of ANC members and supporters of former president Levon Ter-Petrosyan  have<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163781674650585/"> criticized the government’s nominee to the Constitutional Court</a>, Vahram Avetisian. They say that his father was linked to former regimes, passing several judgements on cases related to the March 1, 2008 events which Vahram Avetisian has never condemned.</p>
<p>The Supreme Judicial Council<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163808312280585/"> elected</a> Yervand Khundkaryan, who is currently chairman of Court of Cassation, as their nominee for one of the three vacant seats in the Constitutional Court.</p>
<p>And Gor Hovhannisyan, a German legal scholar who was already nominated once for the constitutional court in 2019, has said  that president Sarkissian’s office<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163808177210585/"> had reached out to him again</a>.</p>
<p>We discuss these nominations.</p>
<h3 id="the-pm’s-outlook-on-the-state-of-the-pandemic">The PM’s Outlook on the State of the Pandemic</h3>
<p>Prime Minister Pashinyan this week declared that the situation over<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790374680585/"> coronavirus has significantly improved</a> in Armenia. He has also expressed hopes that the state of emergency can be lifted by September. This perception is based on data from recent days when the recovery rate has outpaced new infection rate. Do the statistics support the Prime Minister’s declaration?</p>
<h2 id="staff-changes-in-the-high-commissioner’s-office">Staff Changes in the High  Commissioner’s Office</h2>
<p>This week the High Commissioner for Diaspora Affairs, Zareh Sinanyan, is in Los Angeles on vacation. However back in Yerevan the Prime Minister fired most of the staff of the Office of the High Commissioner for Diaspora Affairs. What’s going on?</p>
<h2 id="headlines-in-the-news">Headlines in the News</h2>
<h3 id="monday">Monday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Armenia’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163779983200585/">economic activity index declined by 4.7%</a> in six months. The downturn is attributed to the pandemic.</li>
<li>Over the weekend Vahram Avetisyan was nominated for the position of judge of the Constitutional Court.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163779994580585/">Responding to concerns</a> about Armenia’s newly adopted National Security Strategy (NSS), Artsakh secretary of National Security Samvel Babayan put out a statement. Excerpt: ”&hellip;There is no alternative to the international recognition of the Republic of Artsakh. The security of Artsakh cannot be put for an auction&hellip;” Some of these issues were discussed in <strong>ANN/Groong’s Week in Review</strong> last week (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atMuf48_Sd8">Episode 4, 7/26/20</a>).</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="tuesday">Tuesday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Erdogan’s AKP ruling party <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163783957365585/">proposed a law strengthening state control over social media</a>, threatening press freedom.</li>
<li>Moderna has launched large-scale <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163788846255585/">Stage 3 trials of COVID-19 vaccine</a>.</li>
<li>PM <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163787541380585/">Pashinian responded to Margarita Simonyan</a>’s accusations, in an interview to RBC, a private Russian TV channel.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163784603485585/">Renovation of homes damaged</a> from Azerbaijani shelling launched in Armenia’s Tavush province</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163785372815585/">Three young Armenians attacked</a> by the Azerbaijanis in Kumkapı/Istanbul.</li>
<li><em><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163786420280585/">Hate Among Us</a></em> – a documentary co-produced by David McKenzie, Dean Cain, Montel Williams and Sergey Sarkisov has received a Daytime Emmy Award in the Outstanding Directing Special Class category.</li>
<li>Armenians continued protesting Azerbaijani aggression in London, Montevideo.</li>
<li>Mayors of a number of French cities have issued a statement expressing <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163786548075585/">solidarity with Armenia</a> and supporting peace in the South Caucasus.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163786588085585/">Azerbaijan accuses Azerbaijani activists</a> abroad of having ties to Armenia.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="wednesday">Wednesday</h3>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Turkey and Azerbaijan have <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163793244105585/">launched large-scale joint military</a> drills this week. Exercises are scheduled in Baku, Nakhichevan, Ganja, Kurdamir and Yevlakh. Russia and Armenia are closely following the exercises, which came as a direct response and pressure on Armenia following the Armenian-Azerbaijani border conflict earlier this month.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790331930585/">Defense Minister Tonoyan said</a> the tactical nature of these drills is not concerning, but they could turn into provocative actions near the borders, defense structures and other infrastructures of Armenia.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armenia gave notice that it <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791162690585/">will suspend the CFE-required military inspections</a> by Turkey on its territory. Armenia consider Turkey to be a security threat, which supports direct military aggression against Armenia.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790355985585/">Guatemala’s Congress</a> committee adopted a resolution on Armenia-Azerbaijan border situation.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>FM Mnatsakanyan <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790364180585/">called on Israel</a> to stop deadly weapons deals with Azerbaijan. He says these weapons are being targeted at civilians and civilian infrastructure, and that he will pursue this issue vigorously.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>PM Pashinyan declared that the situation over <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790374680585/">coronavirus has significantly improved</a> in Armenia. This perception is based on data from recent days when the recovery rate has outpaced new infection rates.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Minister of High-Technology Hakob Arshakyan <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791414190585/">announced</a> that the government will improve Digital TV network, communication and Internet access in Armenia’s border villages.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armenian Ambassador to the US, Varuzhan Nersesyan’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791481760585/">op-ed in Newsmax.com</a>.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The Armenian government is supporting a local program that includes <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791415905585/">$64,000 for installing solar stations</a> in the wider Noyemberyan region. The program is funded by the USAID.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armenia has <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791419875585/">confirmed its participation</a> in the Army-2020 forum to be held in Russia August. This is a large-scale military Arsenal exhibit.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armenian winemaker <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791436570585/">cellars are 70% full</a> amid coronavirus.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Armenia’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791203015585/">Demanding Applicant initiative files two lawsuits</a> in court. These are the high performing students who were not admitted to universities.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Yerevan Appellate courts have <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791616815585/">twice now denied motions</a> to arrest Mikayel Minasyan, son-in-law of former president Serzh Sargsyan and former Ambassador to the Vatican.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Turkish actress Songul Oden, 41, has married ethnic Armenian Arman Bichakchian (Arman Bichakci)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Kanye West’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791451735585/">Yeezy Foam Runner</a> named “Ararat” was in instant sellout and hit with Armenian Americans.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Burbank Police Department has <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163793281790585/">increased police patrols</a> around Armenian Centers in the city in order to prevent possible acts of vandalism or violence. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/krekorian/">LA city councilmember Paul Krekorian</a> warned the LAPD of a potential surge in hate crimes against Armenians.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The UK’s former envoy to Turkey, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163793288300585/">Richard Moore was named MI6 Director</a>.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>A faction of ANC members and supporters of former president Levon Ter-Petrosyan  have <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163781674650585/">criticized the government’s nominee to the Constitutional Court</a>, Vahram Avetisian. They say his father was linked to former regimes passing several judgements on cases related to the March 1, 2008 events.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163793311035585/">Nikol Pashinyan gave an interview</a> to the Russian RBC TV channel in which he rebutted Margarita Simonyan’s Facebook posting last week, as well as addressed other topics.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="thursday">Thursday</h3>
<ul>
<li>A <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163794430250585/">TUMO center will open in Tavush</a> region.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163794582060585/">Japan to provide grant</a> to Armenia for purchasing ambulance vehicles.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163796362525585/">Azerbaijanis attack Armenian-owned hookah bar</a> in Cologne, Germany.</li>
<li>Carpet production <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163796558195585/">drops in Armenia by 72․4%</a> in 2020 year over year.</li>
<li>Agos, an Armenian media outlet, has reported <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163800487835585/">three recent incidents targeting Armenians living in Turkey</a> as a result of the conflict involving Azerbaijan. Agos editor Bagrat Estukian and Turkish Armenian MP Garo Paylan are quoted in <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163794605985585/">this article by Armenpress</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="friday">Friday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Jirayr <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163803634845585/">Sefilyan</a> and Arthur <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163803686280585/">Vanetsyan</a> were summoned to the NSS for questioning.</li>
<li>Ten members of the staff in the Office of the High Commissioner for Diaspora Affairs were <a href="https://news.am/arm/news/594408.html?fbclid=IwAR3GRtCWqoMZjFRmCJPzTKw6t1xtTMQ9o0DfRcm3jqqg-wWE-6A-2FvDmSY">fired by the Prime Minister</a>. The High Commissioner, Zareh Sinanyan, is on vacation in Los Angeles. The reasons are yet <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163803630125585/">unclear</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163803625285585/">unverified</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="saturday">Saturday</h3>
<ul>
<li>The Supreme Judicial Council <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163808312280585/">elected</a> Yervand Khundkaryan (currently chairman of Court of Cassation) as their nominee for one of the three vacant seats in the Constitutional Court. It is now the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163808289610585/">president’s turn</a> to offer a nominee. Gor Hovhannisyan, a German legal scholar who was already nominated once for the constitutional court in 2019, stated that president Sarkissian’s office <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163808177210585/">had reached out to him again</a> on the topic of nomination for one of the current CC vacancies. He indicated that he declined the president’s office twice on the grounds that he doesn’t believe the removal of three judges was constitutional.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="sunday">Sunday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Georgia announces <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/?post_id=10163807470455585">suspension of rail services</a> with Armenia for 16 days due to maintenance.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="people-in-the-news">People in the News</h2>
<h3 id="robert-kocharyan">Robert Kocharyan</h3>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/presidentrobertkocharyan/">Robert Kocharyan</a>, second president of the Republic of Armenia, gave a major <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZpLrQDxcBs&amp;feature=youtu.be">interview</a> to three Armenian media outlets: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvhOxd4DL1kUZLOPJV-K-aA">5 TV</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/Armeniah2tv">H2</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/YerkirmediaTV">Yerkir Media</a>.</p>
<h3 id="arman-bichakchian">Arman Bichakchian</h3>
<p>Arman Bichakchian (Arman Bichakci) Turkish actress Songul Oden. He is a businessman, working with uncle, jeweler Sevan Bichakci. His father, Zaven Bichakcian, is an Armenian clergyman in Istanbul.</p>
<h4 id="sources-1">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163790294470585/">Famous Turkish actress marries ethnic Armenian businessman</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fb.arm24news.ru/?p=7960">Թուրք հայտնի դերասանուհին ամուսնացել է հայ գործարարի հետ</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 id="ararat-the-yeezey-foam-runner">Ararat, the Yeezey Foam Runner</h3>
<p>Kanye’s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163791451735585/">Yeezy Foam Runner</a> named “Ararat” was an instant sellout… ‘nuff said? Fo’ sho’</p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4827524-ann-groong-wir-5-aug-2-2020.mp3" length="58316560" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:20:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>War Roundup | National Security Strategy | Headlines | People | Ep 4 - July 26, 2020
[EP4]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/4-war-roundup-karena-avedissian-national-security-strategy-headlines-people/</link><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:49:57 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4728974-ann-groong-wir-4-jul-26-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>War Roundup | National Security Strategy | Headlines | People | Ep 4 - July 26, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review - 07/26/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/26/2020
Topics:
- Panel: War roundup / Artsakh
- Conversation: National Security Doctrine
- Panel: National Security Doctrine
Guests
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
A Conversation with
* [Karena Avedissian](/guest/kavedissian) (special guest)
Episode 4 | Recorded on July 26, 2020</itunes:summary><description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/26/2020
Topics:
- Panel: War roundup / Artsakh
- Conversation: National Security Doctrine
- Panel: National Security Doctrine
Guests
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
A Conversation with
* [Karena Avedissian](/guest/kavedissian) (special guest)
Episode 4 | Recorded on July 26, 2020</description><googleplay:description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/26/2020
Topics:
- Panel: War roundup / Artsakh
- Conversation: National Security Doctrine
- Panel: National Security Doctrine
Guests
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Karen Vrtanesyan](/guest/kvrtanesyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
A Conversation with
* [Karena Avedissian](/guest/kavedissian) (special guest)
Episode 4 | Recorded on July 26, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="panel-war-roundup--artsakh">Panel: War roundup / Artsakh</h2>
<h3 id="overview">Overview</h3>
<p>This week we saw the fighting in the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan simmer down and take a backseat to the political statements flowing in from around the world. In general except for Turkey and a few other countries, we’ve seen balanced statements from major countries and organizations such as the US, the EU, the UN, Russia and the CSTO.</p>
<p>Major journalists such as David Ignatius called on the US and Russia to seize this moment as a rare opportunity to collaborate towards peace in the Caucasus.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Azerbaijan has called in Israel and Turkey to analyze the failures of its UAV/Drone arsenal, and also to upgrade to a fleet of Turkish drones which were highly effective against the Kurds and Russia in Syria. We’ve also had a full week of Jeyhun Bairamov in his new role as Azerbaijan’s foreign minister, following Mammadyarov’s humiliating dismissal by Aliyev.</p>
<p>We discuss the state of affairs since the cessation of fighting, and what the replacement of Azerbaijan’s long-time foreign minister portends for the future of negotiations with Armenia. Also, the drone wars and what that means for the future of warfare in the region.</p>
<p>We also spend some time into why, as the border quieted down, clashes have broken out in cities around the world between Armenian diaspora communities protesting against Azeri aggression against Armenia, and Azeri or Azerbaijan-supported protesters. In cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Moscow, Kiev, London, violence broke out between angry demonstrators. In San Francisco an Armenian school was vandalized with hate graffiti, while in Berlin a car belonging to the Armenian embassy was set on fire.</p>
<h4 id="sources">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163760942045585/">Interview with Seyran Ohanyan</a> - Yerkir Media</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163594548725585/">Turkey Now Has Swarming Suicide Drones It Could Export</a> - TheDrive.com</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163762288975585/">Armenian, Russian servicemen to develop new ways on fighting against UAVs</a> - Armenpress</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="conversation-with-karena-avedissian-on--natl-security">Conversation with Karena Avedissian on  Nat’l Security</h2>
<h3 id="overview-1">Overview</h3>
<p>Armenia’s Security Council introduced a <a href="https://www.seco.am/pdf/%D4%B1%D5%A6%D5%A3%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6%20%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%BE%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A3%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6%20%D5%BC%D5%A1%D5%A6%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%BE%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6%202020.pdf">new National Security Strategy</a> (NS Strategy) on July 10, 2020. The previous strategy document was adopted in 2007, in the final year of second president Robert Kocharian’s final term in office. Last week we had a conversation with Dr. Karena Avedissian on this topic. Her research focuses on social movements, new media/communications, civil society and governance in the former Soviet Union, with an area focus on Russia and the Caucasus. Here is that conversation.</p>
<h4 id="sources-1">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://jamestown.org/program/rationalizing-the-tonoyan-doctrine-armenias-active-deterrence-strategy/?fbclid=IwAR3p4ZmJB7GLFtgBI2kbNa7mD_1yEhGjIn5cZG7C4RUveeljDGKojl4yHGg">Rationalizing the Tonoyan Doctrine: Armenia’s Active Deterrence Strategy</a> - Jamestown.org</li>
<li><a href="https://www.evnreport.com/opinion/armenia-s-new-national-security-strategy-sharing-first-impressions">Armenia’s New National Security Strategy: Sharing First Impressions</a>  -By <a href="https://twitter.com/Vahram_TM">Vahram Ter-Matevosyan</a> on EVNreport.com (contains a link to the NSD)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163763324240585/">Armenian-Azerbaijani Border Clashes: The Russian Dimension and Beyond</a> - Jamestown.org</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/?post_id=10163760560765585">Հարցազրույց Արմեն Գրիգորյանի հետ</a> - Armenian Public TV</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/?post_id=10163760238890585">Թշնամին ներսում չի, թշնամին դրսում է, վե՛րջ տվեք. Արա Հակոբյան</a> - 5 TV</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="panel-on-national-security-doctrine-nsd">Panel on National Security Doctrine (NSD)</h2>
<h3 id="overview-2">Overview</h3>
<p>The publication of the NSD came just before the border flare up and at a time when Armenia has been articulating a more assertive military doctrine known as a deterrence doctrine or in some circles “Tonoyan doctrine”. Azerbaijan may have been surprised at what appears to have been an aggressive counter response by Armenia.</p>
<p>One salient point we’ve noticed is that it seems that Armenia is making a deliberate effort to not use the term “Artsakh Republic” or “Nagorno Karabakh Republic” in the strategic document, which is a marked difference from the 2007 version. In explaining this change, Armen Grigoryan simply pointed to Pashinyan’s speech in Artsakh on August 5, 2019. That was the speech where Pashinyan said “Artsakh is Armenia, and that’s that”. Meanwhile, critics argue that this move de-emphasizes the right of self-determination, one of the key positions held by the Armenian sides throughout the last 30 years in negotiations.</p>
<h2 id="headlines-in-the-news">Headlines in the News</h2>
<h3 id="sunday">Sunday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Over the weekend the Russian Defence Ministry carried out a snap check of troops in the southern and western military districts, as well as units of Air and Naval forces per the decision of President Putin. Despite denials, the exercises were clearly a warning to Turkey to stay out of the Caucasus war scene.</li>
<li>Turkey&rsquo;s pro-Kurdish party refuses to sign under anti-Armenian bill in the Turkish parliament, stating that it is necessary to give preference to a peacemaking foreign policy instead of an anti-Armenian statement and that bringing Armenia and Azerbaijan to the negotiating table and easing the tension need to be the main principle.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="monday">Monday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Greta Thunberg was awarded the first Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity</li>
<li>Rep. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/RepFrankPallone/?__tn__=%2CdK%2AF-R&amp;eid=ARDC2110Ksf109dVvra_1jOQv7GokZl4j4tjMZ7O6BzH7GQo7FMeD0hpwKxrgo33GXNpGEjykkKEz_qP&amp;hc_location=group_dialog">Frank Pallone Jr.</a>&rsquo;s Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act will be included in an en bloc package and passed by Congress. It requires a report from the Secretaries of Defense and State to address allegations that some units of foreign countries that have participated in security cooperation programs under Section 333 of title 10, U.S.C. (Building Partner Capacity Program) may have committed gross violations of internationally-recognized HR before or while receiving U.S. security assistance.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="tuesday">Tuesday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Three Armenians were elected to Syria’s 250-seat parliament: Dr. Nora Arisian and Jirair Reisian from Aleppo, and Lucy Esgenian from Damascus.</li>
<li>Ararat Mirzoyan signed the law on the constitutional court, when the 21 mandated days expired after president Armen Sarkisian refused to sign it.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="wednesday">Wednesday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Washington Post associate editor <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/david-ignatius/">David Ignatius</a> called  on the US and Russia to collaborate on a peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan.</li>
<li>The ECHR demanded Azerbaijan to give information about the location and living conditions of Narek Sardaryan; about his health; and  whether a criminal case has been initiated against him. Narek Sardaryan wandered into Nakhichevan and was apprehended there nearly 2 weeks ago.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="thursday">Thursday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Paul Stronski, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace think tank <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163763653815585/">noted the very late reaction from the US State Department</a> on the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, and attributes it to a lack of South Caucasus strategy at the White House.</li>
<li>An official car of the Armenia Embassy in Berlin is <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163763625755585/">set on fire</a>.</li>
<li>The US <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163766570035585/">congress adopted the Speier-Cox-Krishnamoorthi Amendment </a>for U.S. demining assistance to Artsakh as part of HR 7608.</li>
<li>US House Rules Committee ruled Congressional <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163762264860585/">Azerbaijan Caucus amendment as  &ldquo;out of order&rdquo;</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="friday">Friday</h3>
<ul>
<li>Vandals targeted the Krouzian-Zekarian-Vasbouragan Armenian School in San Francisco with threatening and racist graffiti, in an attack that claimed to support a violent, anti-Armenian movement led by Azerbaijan. The attack, which US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi condemned, is being investigated as a hate crime.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163772712535585/">Ukrainian nationalists are recruiting civilians, as well as experienced former and current soldiers to be sent to Azerbaijan to take part in the military clashes against Armenia</a>, a spokesman of the militia of the unrecognized Luhansk People&rsquo;s Republic, Yakov Osadchiy, told a press briefing on Friday.</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="saturday">Saturday</h3>
<ul>
<li>UNESCO expressed its deepest regret for Turkey’s decision to change the status of Hagia Sophia, and has not received any guarantees of preservation of the world cultural site.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="people-in-the-news">People in the News</h2>
<h3 id="nora-arisian">Nora Arisian</h3>
<p>Dr. Nora Arisian was elected to Syria’s parliament on July 19.</p>
<h4 id="sources-2">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163755392720585/">Three Armenians elected to Syria’s Parliament, preliminary results show</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="jirair-reisian">Jirair Reisian</h3>
<p>Mr. Jirair Reisian was elected to Syria’s parliament on July 19.</p>
<h4 id="sources-3">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163758113200585/">3 Armenians elected members of Syrian parliament</a> - Armenpress.am</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="lucy-esgenian">Lucy Esgenian</h3>
<p>Lucy Esgenian Esq. was elected to Syria’s parliament on July 19.</p>
<h4 id="sources-4">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163755392720585/">Three Armenians elected to Syria’s Parliament, preliminary results show</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded><itunes:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><googleplay:image href="https://podcasts.groong.org/img/episode/default.jpg"/><enclosure url="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4728974-ann-groong-wir-4-jul-26-2020.mp3" length="49478915" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>1:08:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><googleplay:explicit>no</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Clashes on Tavush Border | Debunking Azerbaijani Propaganda About Armenia Flooding Mingechaur Reservoir | Azerbaijani Missile Threat to Armenian Nuclear Power Plant | July 19, 2020
[EP2]</title><link>https://podcasts.groong.org/2-tavush-border-skirmish-azerbaijan-propaganda-mingechaur-threat-to-anpp-with-missiles/</link><pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:11:57 +0000</pubDate><dc:creator/><guid>https://www.buzzsprout.com/1215113/4625144-ann-groong-wir-2-jul-19-2020.mp3</guid><itunes:author>
Hovik Manucharyan
and Asbed Bedrossian</itunes:author><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Clashes on Tavush Border | Debunking Azerbaijani Propaganda About Armenia Flooding Mingechaur Reservoir | Azerbaijani Missile Threat to Armenian Nuclear Power Plant | July 19, 2020</itunes:title><itunes:subtitle>
        
        ANN/Groong Week in Review | Ep 2 - 07/19/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/19/2020
#### Topics:
* Clashes on the Tavush Border
* Azerbaijani Propaganda around Armenian Threats to the Mingechaur Reservoid
* Azerbaijan’s threat to strike Armenia’s Nuclear Power Plant with missiles
#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian) (Special Guest)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 2 | Recorded on July 19 2020</itunes:summary><description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/19/2020
#### Topics:
* Clashes on the Tavush Border
* Azerbaijani Propaganda around Armenian Threats to the Mingechaur Reservoid
* Azerbaijan’s threat to strike Armenia’s Nuclear Power Plant with missiles
#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian) (Special Guest)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 2 | Recorded on July 19 2020</description><googleplay:description>### ANN Groong Week in Review - 07/19/2020
#### Topics:
* Clashes on the Tavush Border
* Azerbaijani Propaganda around Armenian Threats to the Mingechaur Reservoid
* Azerbaijan’s threat to strike Armenia’s Nuclear Power Plant with missiles
#### Guests:
* [Areg Danagoulian](/guest/adanagoulian) (Special Guest)
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 2 | Recorded on July 19 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="clashes-on-the-tavush-border">Clashes on the Tavush border</h2>
<h3 id="overview">Overview</h3>
<p>Around noon on Sunday, July 12, Azerbaijani forces attempted to infiltrate the Armenian border in the Tavush region of Armenia. Upon initial shots by Armenian armed forces, Azerbaijani soldiers abandoned their vehicle and retreated, only to attack the Armenian army border post again and be repulsed after suffering nearly half a dozen deaths.</p>
<p>Later on Sunday evening Azerbaijan started intensive shelling along the Armenian border, and by Monday morning there were reports of drone attacks, shelling, and sniper fire. Azerbaijan also went on a PR and Cyber offensive. Armenian government sites were hacked, and both Azerbaijan and Turkey were trying to pin responsibility for the fighting on Armenia.</p>
<p>The attack was preceded by public threats to resume military action. As recently as the first week of July, Ilham Aliyev complained about the OSCE Minsk Group mediators and firmly told reporters that for Azerbaijan the military option was on the table. Since then the relative calm along the Armenian-Azerbaijan state border and the Azerbaijan-Artsakh line of contact (LoC) has degraded, culminating in the clashes of July 12th.</p>
<p>By July 14 Azeri losses had accumulated to over a dozen, <a href="https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1021648.html?fbclid=IwAR08U6RY5-BCevZOVgxGpGuiAFQrgkRDjTZq1qRKkJLZjbMOpu9aDMIHYrw">including many high ranking officers</a> at the Major-General, Colonel and Major rank levels. Armenia suffered military and civilian casualties as well, including a destroyed kindergarten. During intensive fighting, Tavush residents were asked to take cover in bomb shelters for days.</p>
<p>Now let’s do a deep-dive analysis with our well-informed guests.</p>
<h3 id="analysis-of-the-current-situation-including-tactical-issues">Analysis of the current situation, including tactical issues</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Emil Sanamyan</strong> wrote an <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163721883540585/">article</a> about these events for the USC Institute of Armenian Studies the day after fighting broke out. What are your thoughts about these continuing hostilities, is this just another routine flare-up, or are there more serious reasons to be worried here? Why the escalation now and why on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border (as opposed to the line of contact in Artsakh)?</li>
<li>Azerbaijan appears to have been ready with its massive PR machine because within a day after the hostilities began Azeri press was full of one-sided statements by a large number of international Islamic organizations, Islamic countries and various other alliances such as the GUAM. Meanwhile, most other organizations and countries put out balanced statements calling for cessation of hostilities by both parties and a return to peace and negotiations.</li>
<li>What are the dynamics driving the domestic political scene in Baku? Ilham Aliyev just fired his long-time foreign minister Elmar Mammadyarov for “ineffective negotiations” over Karabakh. There was a crowd estimated at 30,000 demonstrating in Baku demanding an end to negotiations and quarantine, and demanding war on Armenia. What is going on in Baku?</li>
<li>Who is Azerbaijan’s new Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov? What do we know about him?</li>
<li>Defense Minister David Tonoyan is well known for his “Active Defense Doctrine” which promotes a pre-emptive strike defense and departs from classic trench defenses to a more “deterrence through punishment” philosophy. Are we seeing this doctrine at play during these events?</li>
<li>There was troubling one-sided language from Turkey, and also GUAM, which includes Georgia, Ukraine, and Moldova. Azerbaijan currently holds the chairmanship of GUAM and likely penned the one-sided statement in the name of GUAM. More balanced statements have followed from individual GUAM countries. Meanwhile, only “balanced statements” have come from the international community.
<ul>
<li>The reaction from Turkey was quick and unprecedented in terms of its hostility. At the level of president, defense minister, and foreign minister we heard threats that “Armenia wouldn’t get away with this,” Cavusoglu stated that he’s ready to die for Azerbaijan. To what do we attribute this belligerent rhetoric?</li>
<li>The reaction from GUAM (an alliance between Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova) was also quick. GUAM squarely sided with Azerbaijan, condemning Armenia for the attacks.</li>
<li>The reaction from other international partners were also quite equivocal. The OSCE Minsk Group, US, EU, Iran, and others all strove to provide a “balanced” response, urging both sides to de-escalate.</li>
<li>The reactions from the CSTO, and what can be expected from the CSTO. Why are the relationships with other CSTO members “not great”?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Where do we go from here? What do we see happening next?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="sources">Sources</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163612069405585/">Defense minister’s interview </a>
<ul>
<li>“Next time we start, we must…”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163693290310585/">Aliyev’s interview criticizing Minsk group</a> (July 7)
<ul>
<li><em>“Their main point is that the problem cannot be solved militarily,” he said. “Who said that? We expect more serious, clear and targeted statements from the mediators.” &ndash;Aliyev</em></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163717543190585/">Armenia’s MOD spox announcement</a>
<ul>
<li>“մեզ համար անհասկանալի պատճառով” ???</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163717824795585/">Armenian government extraordinary session</a>
<ul>
<li>DM also mentions “անհասկանալի պատճառով”</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The EVN Reports on this event:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.evnreport.com/politics/fighting-erupts-on-armenia-azerbaijan-state-border">Fighting Erupts on Armenian-Azerbbaijani State Border</a> - 7/13/2020</li>
<li><a href="https://www.evnreport.com/politics/updates-from-the-armenia-azerbaijan-state-border">Updates from the Armenian-Azerbaijan State Border</a> - 7/14/2020</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163721883540585/">Armenian, Azerbaijani Forces Tussle for High Ground on Tavush Border</a></li>
<li>Much more on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/">Groong on Facebook</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-threat-on-the-armenian-nuclear-power-plant">The Threat on the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant</h2>
<p><strong>Asbed Kotchikian talks with Areg Danagoulian</strong></p>
<h3 id="overview-1">Overview</h3>
<p>In this segment Asbed Kotchikian discusses a wide variety of aspects of the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant (ANPP) at Metsamor with Areg Danagulian. The ANPP’s significance to Armenia’s economy, energy security, and independence cannot be overstated. The power plant was shut down in 1989 following the devastating earthquake in Spitak, and when it was brought back online in 1995 after being shut down since 1989 it served as a lifeline and helped fuel Armenia’s economic growth for the next two decades.</p>
<p>Dr. Danagulian is Associate Professor of Nuclear Science and Engineering at MIT. He is currently working on new, <a href="http://lnsp.mit.edu/monochromatic-cargo-interrogation/">monochromatic methodologies for cargo screening</a> as well as technologies for <a href="http://lnsp.mit.edu/treaty-verification/">treaty verification via resonant phenomena and physical cryptography</a>.</p>
<h3 id="analysis-of-the-current-situation-including-tactical-issues-1">Analysis of the current situation, including tactical issues</h3>
<ul>
<li>How safe (structurally, operationally and strategically) is the Metsamor NPP?
<ul>
<li>What are the possible implications of a missile strike on Metsamor NPP?</li>
<li>Should Armenia be shifting away from nuclear power in the future?</li>
<li>Are the concerns about safety of the ANPP valid?</li>
<li>How long can the ANPP still be in service?</li>
<li>How resistant is it to earthquakes which have been mentioned as a security concern?</li>
<li>Within the context of the recent conflagration between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the latter’s threats to launch a missile strike on Metsamor, how realistic is the threat?
<ul>
<li>How resistant is the ANPP to potential military-induced nuclear catastrophe?</li>
<li>Is there some sort of a safety mechanism or protocol that can minimize the damage in case such a catastrophe takes place?</li>
<li>If you were advising Armenia’s government, are there any precautionary measures that you’d recommend be taken to reduce or mitigate the risk of a military attack on Metsamor?</li>
<li>What is the worst-case scenario in terms of a missile strike on Metsamor?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>How does nuclear fuel make its way to the ANPP? Doesn’t Armenia have Uranium resources of its own?</li>
<li>Looking into the future, given the landlocked status and potential geopolitical constraints, how realistic is it for Armenia to bolster its nuclear security?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="sources-1">Sources</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163736452955585/">Azerbaijan Threatens Missile Strike on Armenian Nuclear Power Plant</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ongoing-discuss-the-state-of-armenian-media">Ongoing Discuss: The State of Armenian Media</h2>
<h3 id="overview-2">Overview</h3>
<ul>
<li>During the war in the Tavush region, quite a few news sources applied self-censorship while covering the frontline. On the other hand social media was full of speculative statements and even factually erroneous news which created more confusion among those who were looking for news.</li>
<li>On the Azerbaijani side, it seemed that they were ready and managed to roll out statements of support from some countries and international organizations.</li>
<li>As a policy, Groong publishes news from (pro)Azerbaijani sources to inform its audience on what the “other” side thinks and says.</li>
<li>Unfortunately the Armenian media landscape has difficulty breaking away from sensationalism and providing in depth analysis, to an extent that they usually publish FB posts by various individuals as news articles without any analysis.</li>
</ul>
<p>There were many articles this week about Azerbaijan’s threat of a missile attack on the ANPP. In an <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163742034675585/">article</a> Forbes was rightfully cautious to write “<em>alleged Armenian threat</em>” about Azerbaijani claims that Armenia had first threatened to bomb the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingachevir_reservoir">Mingechaur water reservoir</a> in Azerbaijan, probably because they couldn’t verify it. Let’s clarify the chain of what was said, what was written, because we can see how misunderstandings can lead to dangerous places.</p>
<p>In a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163671962175585/">Factor TV interview on July 2</a>, former Armenian Defense Minister Vagharshak Harutyunyan discusses (in minutes 12 &amp; 13) that all of Azerbaijan is within reach of Armenian missile systems, and he EXPLICITLY QUOTES Russian general <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Rokhlin">Lev Rokhlin</a> (from a speech in front of the Russian Duma) (see minute 12:37 of the Factor TV interview) “…and here I bring you the statement of Rokhlin, who during a presentation in the Duma said: if the Armenian side used the SCUD systems, and targeted the Mingechaur reservoir, then two thirds of Azerbaijan would be under water.”</p>
<p><strong>Gen. Lev Rokhlin died in 1998!</strong></p>
<p>However, the news and rumors were spun offline and on social media to lead to an official threat from Azerbaijan, we can see how unverified information can quickly get out of hand. Regardless of that, we go back to what Emil Sanamyan says in the podcast: there is no way to equate nuclear terror with blowing up a reservoir.</p>
<p>Areas where we decided that need more exploration and discussion in the future:</p>
<ul>
<li>Turkey today, its foreign policy in all directions. What are the drivers of its foreign policy, its perceived strategic goals?</li>
<li>The future of energy generation in energy in Armenia; renewable energy sources.</li>
</ul>
<p>More on the state of the Armenian media in our future podcasts.</p>
<h2 id="headlines-in-the-news">Headlines in the News</h2>
<h3 id="sunday">Sunday</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163716387520585/">Azeri armed  forces shelled an Armenian army outpost</a> in the northern Tavush  province during a failed attempt to seize it. Three Azerbaijani soldiers have died and 5 were injured. The Armenian army suffered no losses.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="monday">Monday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Skirmishes continued with Drones/UAV’s; Armenian forces had shot down many Azeri UAVs. Azeri deaths around 6-8. No Armenian losses.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="tuesday">Tuesday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Over a dozen  deaths on the Azeri side, including senior military personnel with the rank of Major-General, Colonel, Majors. The Armenian side also suffered losses but appears to have gained a strategic height that overlooks the Azeri Tovuz district.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="wednesday">Wednesday</h4>
<ul>
<li>13 Azeri drones were downed by Armenian forces since Sunday. The last UAV was an Israeli-made Elbit Hermes 900, Thunder-B recon drone, and Skystriker combat drones. The Elbit 900 is a very expensive, powerful drone and the first of its type to be downed.</li>
<li>Armenia’s SU-30SM fighter jets went on combat duty, protecting Armenia’s air space.</li>
<li>The U.S. House will Consider Measures Blocking Transfer of Defense Articles to Azerbaijan, a key vote set for Monday July 20.</li>
<li>Several members of the US Congress condemned Azerbaijan’s military aggression against Armenia.</li>
<li>“End the quarantine and start the war!” A crowd of pro-war Azerbaijani protesters estimated around 30,000 strong broke into parliament, demanding war with Armenia. Police intervened to break up the protest.</li>
<li>The operative situation on the border became relatively calm, tensions de-escalated later on Wednesday.</li>
<li>Azeri lobbies and propaganda were fully prepared for this war. Azerbaijan and Turkey immediately lined up a long list of condemnations of Armenia as the aggressor in this flare-up. [<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163726417795585/">1</a>] [<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163728727315585/">2</a>]</li>
<li>Aliyev trashed his FM Mamedyarov during a meeting of his cabinet. Mamedyarov failed to attend the meeting for unknown reasons, and Aliyev expressed anger at his inadequate performance and the fact that Mamedyarov had allegedly discussed cooperating with Armenia on combating the coronavirus pandemic</li>
<li>Turkish president Erdogan had a call with president Trump during which he slammed Armenia as the aggressor in the conflict this week. No word from Trump yet.</li>
<li>No meaningful reactions from major organizations: OSCE, the CSTO, NATO or the UN.</li>
<li>Balanced statements from Russia, Iran, Belarus, Latvia, the UK.</li>
<li>Armenia’s MFA declared the absolute inadmissibility of Turkey’s involvement in the settling of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The statement declared Turkey a threat to the security of Armenia and the Caucasus.</li>
<li>Gagik Tsarukyan does not have Coronavirus.</li>
<li>A fake bomb threat was called on the Blue Mosque in Yerevan.</li>
<li>A 30-year old Armenian Shepherd was reported missing to Armenian police and was later reported in custody by Azerbaijani police in Nakhichevan.</li>
<li>A new survey by the IRI claims 84 percent of Armenians have either a “very” (72 percent) or “somewhat” (12 percent) favorable opinion of the prime minister; a majority support the government’s management of COVID-19, with 48 percent “very” and 23 percent “somewhat” satisfied with the response; and when asked how state institutions have handled the pandemic, respondents expressed improved opinions of the police (65 percent), the Ministry of Health (64 percent) and the Prime Minister’s office (58 percent).</li>
<li>The WB, the EBRD and the EU approved nearly $40 million in financing for a 55MW Solar power plant in Armenia. Armenia currently generates 70% of its electricity from fossil fuels, and this plant will generate 128GW-hours of electricity annually, displacing the release of 40,000 tons of carbon.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="thursday">Thursday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Ilham Aliyev sacked his long-time foreign minister, Elmar Mammadyarov, after denouncing his poor performance in the Nagorno-Karabakh peace process. Mammadyarov was replaced by education minister Jeyhun Bayramov.</li>
<li>Clashes resume on Azerbaijan-Armenia border</li>
<li>State Senators Portantino, Borgeas Condemn Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia</li>
<li>US House will Vote on Jackie Speier’s Amendment Restoring Military Aid Parity to Yerevan and Baku</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="friday">Friday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Clashes ease on Armenia-Azerbaijan border: No casualties reported on Armenian side</li>
<li>Azerbaijan threatens to cause a &rsquo;nuclear catastrophe&rsquo; by attacking the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant, claiming Armenia has threatened its Mingechaur Reservoir. The claim is patently false.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        Conversations on Groong
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>### Conversations on Groong
### Safety and Security of Metsamor
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s threat to attack the NPP
* Overall safety and security of the plant
* Safe handling of nuclear fuel
* Renewable energy alternatives to nuclear
* Maintenance and upgrades to the NPP
Episode 3 | Recorded on July 17, 2020</itunes:summary><description>### Conversations on Groong
### Safety and Security of Metsamor
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s threat to attack the NPP
* Overall safety and security of the plant
* Safe handling of nuclear fuel
* Renewable energy alternatives to nuclear
* Maintenance and upgrades to the NPP
Episode 3 | Recorded on July 17, 2020</description><googleplay:description>### Conversations on Groong
### Safety and Security of Metsamor
#### Topics:
* Azerbaijan’s threat to attack the NPP
* Overall safety and security of the plant
* Safe handling of nuclear fuel
* Renewable energy alternatives to nuclear
* Maintenance and upgrades to the NPP
Episode 3 | Recorded on July 17, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="the-threat-on-the-armenian-nuclear-power-plant">The Threat on the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant</h2>
<p>In this segment <strong>Asbed Kotchikian</strong> discusses a wide variety of aspects of the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant (ANPP) at Metsamor with <strong>Areg Danagulian</strong>. The ANPP’s significance to Armenia’s economy, energy security, and independence cannot be overstated. The power plant was shut down in 1989 following the devastating earthquake in Spitak, and when it was brought back online in 1995 after being shut down since 1989 it served as a lifeline and helped fuel Armenia’s economic growth for the next two decades.</p>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/cog/">Conversations on Groong</a> helpful, we invite your feedback and your suggestions. You can <a href="https://linktr.ee/groong"><strong>find us</strong></a> on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to <strong>Laura Osborn</strong> for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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        ANN/Groong Week in Review | Ep 1 - 07/12/2020
        
        </itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary>### ANN/Groong Week in Review - 07/12/2020
#### Topics:
* The Constitutional Court Standoff Continues in Limbo
* Polls, and what you should know about them
* The Armenian Government’s response to COVID-19
* The State of Armenian Media: Media Freedoms During Covid
#### Guests:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 1 | Recorded on July 12, 2020</itunes:summary><description>### ANN/Groong Week in Review - 07/12/2020
#### Topics:
* The Constitutional Court Standoff Continues in Limbo
* Polls, and what you should know about them
* The Armenian Government’s response to COVID-19
* The State of Armenian Media: Media Freedoms During Covid
#### Guests:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 1 | Recorded on July 12, 2020</description><googleplay:description>### ANN/Groong Week in Review - 07/12/2020
#### Topics:
* The Constitutional Court Standoff Continues in Limbo
* Polls, and what you should know about them
* The Armenian Government’s response to COVID-19
* The State of Armenian Media: Media Freedoms During Covid
#### Guests:
* [Asbed Kotchikian](/guest/akotchikian)
* [Emil Sanamyan](/guest/esanamyan)
* [Alen Zamanyan](/guest/azamanyan)
Episode 1 | Recorded on July 12, 2020</googleplay:description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="the-constitutional-court-standoff-continues-in-limbo">The Constitutional Court Standoff Continues in Limbo</h2>
<h3 id="overview">Overview</h3>
<p>The saga around the Armenian Constitutional Court continues this week. The three judges who were targets of the persistent efforts by Pashinyan and his My Step (Im Qayl) parliamentary faction have taken their case to the European Court of Human Rights. The ECHR refused to grant an urgent injunction (intended to prevent any change in the makeup of the court until the case is fully deliberated), however, there are indications that ECHR intends to expedite this case, giving the parties until August to submit their positions.</p>
<p>Let’s remember that last week’s amendments to the Law on the Constitutional Court have not taken effect since the president is refusing to sign (and he has announced that he won’t refer the bill to the constitutional court), which will most likely mean that they will be signed by the president of the National Assembly (Ararat Mirzoyan) after a constitutionally mandated 21 day period expires. This has left the court in limbo where critics say that the 3 justices are still considered as serving their term while the government maintains that the judges are out even if the law hasn’t been signed yet. With the three judges being out and two other judges who took vacation, for the first time since its founding the CC hasn’t had quorum for two weeks in a row.</p>
<h3 id="history-of-events-around-topic">History of events around topic</h3>
<p>The 2015 constitutional changes (authored by Hrayr Tovmasyan) reduced the term of a CC judge to 12 years. Previously, the term of a judge ran until they reached retirement age. In order to bridge the gap between the old term limits and the newly introduced ones, the constitution also includes a transitional clause which effectively means that the new term limits only apply to newly appointed justices. This would mean that a number of previously appointed members would get to serve a long time, including the chairperson (Hrayr Tovmasyan) who would get to serve until his retirement in 2035.</p>
<p>Let’s take a brief overview of the issue:</p>
<ul>
<li>Criminal case opened against Hrayr Tovmasyan (president of the CC) in late 2019, however, the CC refused to lift his immunity.</li>
<li>Next, the National Assembly passed a law giving CC members the option to “retire early” with full pay, which critics say amounted to a legal bribe. None of the judges took that option anyway.</li>
<li>Once the retirement enticement failed to bear fruit, Im Qayl parliamentarians decided to solve the issue via constitutional referendum which was canceled due to Covid.</li>
<li>In June, the National Assembly tried to solve the matter via controversial changes to the constitution, failing to heed the advice of the Venice Commission to seek approval from the CC before voting. Additionally, the president also signed away his right to sign constitutional changes - causing confusion as well.</li>
<li>Lastly, the National Assembly also changed another law (The Law on the Constitutional Court) which appeared to be in conflict with the constitution (in terms of when the constitutional changes take effect).</li>
</ul>
<p>So what happened last week?</p>
<ul>
<li>The three judges being removed appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, citing 3 measures. One of the measures is an urgent ruling (based on <a href="https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Rules_Court_ENG.pdf">Rule 39</a>) to prevent the makeup of the CC from changing until the rest of the matters are fully heard. Normally, cases in the ECHR take many years to process.</li>
<li>Yet another CC session failed to be held due to lack of quorum.
<ul>
<li>There are 3 judges who are in legal limbo and are actually being prevented from entering the CC by the police.</li>
<li>Two other judges (Tovmasyan and Petrosyan) are on vacation reducing the number of active judges to 4, which is not enough for quorum.</li>
<li>Among other things on the docket (such as signing international treaties/agreements), the CC needs to decide on two issues that are related to the current impasse:
<ul>
<li>Appeal from 26 members of parliament on the constitutionality of changes to the constitution.</li>
<li>Whether immunity of Robert Kocharyan has been violated.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="analysis-of-the-current-situation-including-tactical-issues">Analysis of the current situation, including tactical issues</h3>
<ul>
<li>What does the ECHR refusal for urgent measure mean?</li>
<li>Is the BHK appeal legal?
<ul>
<li>They only got 26 signatures where some say 27 is required.</li>
<li>Why isn’t Bright Armenia (LHK) joining the appeal?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>When will Hrayr Tovmasyan and Arevik Petrosyan come back from vacation?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="polls-and-what-you-should-know-about-them">Polls, and what you should know about them</h2>
<h3 id="overview-1">Overview</h3>
<p>In the West, polls are a ubiquitous part of a citizen’s life. There are polls for everything, all the time. Vendors make decisions about products based on how buyers rate them; similarly, peoples’ views about their leaders are influenced through polls rating their performance. Many politicians are highly attuned to what polls say, they use polls in their decision-making.</p>
<p>Three major polls were the topic of discussion in Armenian politics over the recent weeks and in this segment, we’ll try to make sense of it all for you. All three polls appear to show a significant amount of support for the executive government in Armenia, despite recent rocky news related to Covid and consolidation of domestic opposition forces.</p>
<p>But how are these polls conducted? Who conducts them? How does data turn into information, and how does information turn into knowledge and decisions?</p>
<p>Do these polls truly reflect the reality on the ground in Armenia? Or are they simply a continuation of what has become tradition in Armenia, where political polls have almost always conspicuously favored the party in power.</p>
<h3 id="history-of-events-around-topic-1">History of events around topic</h3>
<h4 id="mpg-llc-aka-gallup-poll">MPG LLC (aka “Gallup”) Poll</h4>
<p>A poll conducted over the phone by MPG LLC, a member of the GALLUP International Association in Armenia, yielded headlines such as: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163672188890585/">88.1% of survey respondents positively assess Armenian PM’s activity</a>?</p>
<p>This poll particularly resulted in a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163673369400585/">heated discussion in our Facebook group</a> with <a href="https://www.facebook.com/farmanyan.samvel">Samvel Fermanian</a>, former Republican member of parliament and co-founder of Qaryak Media, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/farmanyan.samvel/posts/10221544881268488?hc_location=ufi">joining the discussion as well.</a></p>
<p>One of the arguments brought up in the discussions was that this is the same MPG that found that:</p>
<ul>
<li>Serge Sargsyan and Karen Karapetyan had no other competition for the position of Prime Minister as late as April 2018.</li>
<li>Indicated in 2013 that Serge Sargsyan had 69% popularity while Raffi Hovanissian only 11%.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="caucasus-barometer">Caucasus Barometer</h4>
<p>The Caucasus Research Resource Centers (CRCC) publishes public opinion datasets across the three Caucasus countries. In Armenia, they conduct the polls of individuals sampled from public voter lists published by the Central Election Commission. The polling was done in-person with more than 60 questions covering a range of topics. While the results were published recently, the poll was conducted in Feb/March (pre Covid).</p>
<p>Here is an interesting result:</p>
<p><strong>Around 24% of Armenians want to leave the country forever.</strong></p>
<p>This is actually an improvement from 2017 when that number was 35%. The best value for this was 2008 when only 20% of Armenians wished to leave Armenia forever.</p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/1/Picture1.png" alt="Armenians want to leave the country forever"  title="Armenians want to leave the country forever" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<p>Now on to a few political questions.</p>
<ul>
<li>80% say everything will be fine in <a href="https://caucasusbarometer.org/en/cb2019am/CNTPROS/">2020</a>. Compare that with 47% in <a href="https://caucasusbarometer.org/en/cb2017am/CNTPROS/">2017</a>.</li>
<li>71% approve of the executive government. Compare that with 20% in <a href="https://caucasusbarometer.org/en/cb2017am/TRUEXEC/">2017</a> (Karen Karapetyan).</li>
<li>Which party is closest to you?
<ul>
<li>35% said “Civic Contract” (Pashinyan’s party)</li>
<li>42% said there’s no such party</li>
<li>10% said Prosperous Armenia</li>
<li>4% said Bright Armenia</li>
<li>All other parties received 1% each</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>EU Neighbors East - Annual Armenia Survey</strong></p>
<p>This is an annual survey of countries in the “EU neighbors east” project. 1000 face-to-face interviews in 30 cities/towns. The survey was conducted in Feb 2020 (before Covid).</p>
<p>Some findings:</p>
<p><strong>Level of trust in institutions</strong></p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/1/Picture2.png" alt="Level of Trust in Institutions"  title="Level of Trust in Institutions" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Trust in Government at 76% (up 4% since 2019 and up 48% since 2018)</li>
<li>Trust in Parliament at 59% (no significant change from 2019, but well above the values in 2018)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>What are the most pressing problems facing your country?</strong></p>
<p><p class="md__image">
  <img src="/img/episode/1/Picture3.png" alt="Most Pressing Problems Facing Country"  title="Most Pressing Problems Facing Country" class="img-fluid" />
</p>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Only 35% concerned about unemployment (down from 50% in 2019)</li>
<li>26% concerned about low living standards, poverty (down from 34%)</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="analysis-of-the-current-situation-including-tactical-issues-1">Analysis of the current situation, including tactical issues</h3>
<h4 id="lets-begin-with-the-mpggallup-poll">Let’s begin with the MPG/Gallup poll</h4>
<ul>
<li>Does this poll pass your smell test?</li>
<li>The numbers for Pashinyan seem to be great, but how do we explain that the same pollster found that Sargsyan and Karapetyan enjoyed majority support?</li>
<li>Samvel Farmanyan argues that these telephone polls suffer greatly from non-response bias and criticized MPG for not releasing data about survey responses?</li>
<li>How can trust in these types of polls be improved in the future?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="the-caucasus-barometer-poll">The Caucasus Barometer poll</h4>
<p>This poll also found a great level of support for Armenia’s government 71%. Yet only 35% of people associate themselves with the Civic Contract party (the PM’s party).</p>
<ul>
<li>How do you explain this discrepancy?</li>
</ul>
<p>Another interesting fact is that the response rate for this survey was 37.14%, down from 65% back in 2013. I couldn’t find information about the methodologies used for data in 2015 and 2017.</p>
<ul>
<li>Any explanation for the apparent drop in participation (when compared to 2013)?</li>
<li>Do you have any concerns about non-response bias (or participation bias)?</li>
<li>Do you think that populist activities that took place at the time of the polling (Armenia was in the midst of a constitutional referendum campaign) could have affected these results?</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="the-eu-neighbors-east-poll">The EU Neighbors East poll</h4>
<ul>
<li>Is a sample size of 1000 sufficient for polls like this?</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="overall">Overall</h3>
<ul>
<li>What conclusions can we draw from the three polls together?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="the-armenian-governments-response-to-covid-19">The Armenian Government’s response to COVID-19</h2>
<h3 id="overview-2">Overview</h3>
<p>Armenia’s Covid19 response continues to worry us by leading the charts in metrics such as Cases / 1M population, and the infection rate among those tested which hovers around the 25-30%, and ideally should be under 5%. The opposition is questioning the government’s response effort and wants to launch an investigation in the national assembly. The parliament majority party My Step has refused to spend time and resources on such an investigation. Meanwhile, the Pashinyan administration is doubling down in its strategy of containing Covid through masks by increasing fines and upping the enforcement efforts on the ground. There have been videos circulated on Facebook of police brutality against people not wearing facemasks.</p>
<p>There will be tense times in the parliament over the coming weeks as the government plans to introduce legislation that could potentially allow them to commandeer resources of private hospitals in the fight against Covid.</p>
<h3 id="history-of-events-around-topic-2">History of events around topic</h3>
<h4 id="update-on-stats">Update on Stats</h4>
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<p>According to <a href="https://worldometers.info">worldometers.info</a></p>
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<h4 id="parliamentary-inquiry">Parliamentary Inquiry</h4>
<p>The opposition in Armenia is <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163689427430585/">accusing the government of mishandling</a> the Covid19 crisis and a motion to <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163670687635585/">set up a parliamentary inquiry</a> on the issue has passed in the National Assembly. This was made possible through 37 signatures collected by Bright Armenia and Prosperous Armenia parties. However, the parliamentary Im Qayl (My Step) majority may still be able to thwart this effort by refusing to endorse the composition of the committee.</p>
<p>Is this effort a waste of resources like the government claims? What outcome can we expect from such a commission, assuming it is allowed to be set up in the first place?</p>
<h4 id="masks-masks-masks">Masks, Masks, Masks</h4>
<p>Armenia continues to press its citizens to wear masks in an effort to increase compliance. Earlier in the week, the majority faction in the national assembly introduced, then promptly withdrew a bill that would <a href="https://news.am/eng/news/590044.html">increase fines</a> for wearing masks.</p>
<p>In addition to increasing general compliance, the government has changed its guidance recently and asks that citizens refrain from wearing cloth masks unless they’re not able to afford surgical masks. At a government meeting on July 2, Nikol Pashinyan seemed to suggest that they should call all citizens to <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163666416085585/">ONLY use factory-produced masks</a>. But what would be the financial implications of such a move?</p>
<p>Armenia has one of the strictest mask wearing requirements around the world. They went so far as to require news anchors to wear masks in TV studios. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163674825260585/">Two opposition TV channels were visited by police</a> and fined for not wearing masks. The management of those channels claims that they were maintaining social distancing and were compliant with previous guidelines from the TV and Radio commission allowing broadcasters to work without masks.</p>
<h3 id="analysis-of-the-current-situation-including-tactical-issues-2">Analysis of the current situation, including tactical issues</h3>
<ul>
<li>Is the Pashinyan administration over-optimizing on the guidelines for wearing masks?</li>
<li>Is compliance with mask laws really a problem still?</li>
<li>What things aren’t they doing that they should be doing in parallel to encouraging mask wearing?</li>
<li>Is it ridiculous to require TV hosts to wear masks? Is there a precedent for this? Are these efforts motivated by health concerns, or public relations considerations, or other reasons?</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="ongoing-discuss-the-state-of-armenian-media">Ongoing Discuss: The State of Armenian Media</h2>
<h3 id="overview-3">Overview</h3>
<p>This past week The Public Journalism club, an OSF-funded NGO in Armenian released a white paper which among other notes concluded that “The media activity during the State of Emergency and the restrictions imposed on Media”.</p>
<h3 id="history-of-events-around-topic-3">History of events around topic</h3>
<ul>
<li>During the initial lockdown period, Armenia introduced restrictions on dissemination of news related to Covid (requiring the news to be only from “official” sources).</li>
<li>The Armenian journal “France-Armenie” ran an article that the team of French doctors arriving in Armenia were being paid for their humanitarian activity</li>
<li>Early in June OpenDemocracy reported that the Armenian website “Med Media” was spreading misinformation about COVID-19 and was funded by USAID. Public health officials in both Armenian and the US described the information on the website as “extremely dangerous” and detrimental to Armenia’s response to the pandemic. The US embassy contacted the website grantees in order to take down the information, but they refused citing “freedom of speech”.  As a result, the US Embassy quickly responded by ending the funding by US taxpayers.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="this-weeks-headlines-in-the-news">This week’s Headlines in the News</h2>
<p>These major on goings are derived from articles we have shared with Groong readers on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/">ANN/Groong on Facebook</a>, and our website’s <a href="http://groong.org/news/">Groong.org Newsfeed</a>.</p>
<h4 id="monday">Monday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Bomb alert at Megamall in Yerevan, evacuates 300+ people before it’s found out to be fake.</li>
<li>A Russian serviceman from 102nd Airbase was found hanged in Gyumri. Investigations have been launched.</li>
<li>Pashinian warns of a renewed COVID-19 lockdown.</li>
<li>An Azerbaijani Secret Service raid on their MFA brings out the possibility that Azerbaijani FM Mamedyarov may be on his way out: corruption, and “thwarting Azerbaijani diplomacy” may be cited as reasons.</li>
<li>The ANPP was shut down for routine maintenance and repairs for 65 days. Expected to be back in operations early in September.</li>
<li>Two historic houses burned down in a “demolition by neglect” arson-fire in Fresno’s Armenian Town Project: the Alijian-Hoonanian Residence (circa 1906) and the Damirgian Brothers Home (circa 1904).</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="tuesday">Tuesday</h4>
<ul>
<li>The Constitutional Court did not achieve a quorum on Tuesday to start hearings on the legality of coup charges against former President Robert Kocharian of “overthrowing the constitutional order” in March 2008.</li>
<li>Armenian media reflects upon White House speaker Kayleigh McEnany mentioning “the Armenian Genocide” memorial in Colorado, as she discussed the defacing of monuments around the country. The question in the minds of everyone: is the White House considering a recognition of the Armenian Genocide to complete an all-US government affirmation? Recall that in late 2019 both the US House of representatives and the US Senate recognized the Armenian Genocide in near-unanimous votes.</li>
<li>Kim Kardashian’s call for support for small businesses in Armenia affected by COVID-19 has resulted in an increase in support and donations. She’s using the hashtag #SupportArmenia.</li>
<li>Neltron has begun manufacturing Kalashnikov AK-103 rifles in Armenia. In a 10-year licensing agreement with Kalashnikov, Armenia will produce 50,000 rifles annually for the Armenian armed forces as well as for export. Some parts will still be imported from Kalashnikov in Russia but will eventually be entirely manufactured in Armenia.</li>
<li>Within three weeks Armenia will ramp up Coronavirus testing to 3000 tests per day.</li>
<li>The 3rd annual <em>Armenia-Engineering Week 2020</em> event is being held online this year from July 6 to 10.</li>
<li>Artsakh president held meetings with Armenia’s Min. of Education, and Prosecutor General.</li>
<li>Ilham Aliyev criticized the OSCE-MG, the negotiators, and called into question the value of negotiating. He criticized Armenia, and raised the spectre of war, and ending negotiations. Former US Ambassador to Azerbaijan called this a “very ominous statement”.</li>
<li>Cybercriminals hacked into a number of ATMs and stole AMD 18 mil. Adjarabet, EasyPay and TelCell were targets. A group of suspects have been charged.</li>
<li>A nursing home was hit hard by a Coronavirus outbreak. 55 people were infected including 12 employees. So far one patient was reported dead.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="wednesday">Wednesday</h4>
<ul>
<li>The White House has clarified that its position on the Armenian Genocide has not changed. It’s still a Մեծ Եղերն. 😐</li>
<li>Ambassador of Iran to Armenia Abbas Badakhshan Zohouri has stated that Iran respects Armenia’s decision to open an embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel. He also affirmed Iran’s continued balanced approach to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, despite what Iran’s ambassador to Azerbaijan has said.</li>
<li>In the first half of 2020 Armenia exported 58,000 tons of fruits and vegetables. Roughly 15% less than 2019, which according to the government was primarily due to weather-afflicted harvests of apples and apricots. But opposition leader Edmon Marukyan believes that it was due to a lack of government support for farmers this year.</li>
<li>Deputy defense minister Gabriel Balayan has been infected with Coronavirus.</li>
<li>My Step Parliamentarian Kristine Poghosyan has recovered from Coronavirus.</li>
<li>Mkhitar Hayrapetyan has been elected as head of the Armenia-Iran parliamentary friendship group. He is also chairman of the parliamentary standing committee on science, education, culture, Diaspora, youth and sport affairs.</li>
<li>The Court of Appeals overturned a lower court’s refusal to sanction the arrest of Gagik Tsarukian who is charged with vote buying in the 2017 parliamentary elections.</li>
<li>President Armen Sarkissian said that he must be legally empowered to appoint, rather than nominate, three of the nine members of Armenia’s Constitutional Court. Parliament speaker Ararat Mirzoyan disagrees and thinks this requires a Constitutional amendment.</li>
<li>The ousted Constitutional Court judges and Judge Hrayr Tovmasian challenged the legality of their removal at the ECHR and have appealed it to reinstate them to their posts until the legality is established. It’s not clear if the ECHR has the authority to reinstate the judges.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="thursday">Thursday</h4>
<ul>
<li>In Q1/20 Armenian Customs collected AMD 123 Billion, and tax revenues were AMD 622 Billion. The total is a 2.3% year-over-year decline from Q1/19 (AMD 160 &amp; 602 B)</li>
<li>Colorado Governor Jared Polis signed a law that mandates the teaching of the Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust, among other cases of genocide, as a requirement for High School graduation.</li>
</ul>
<h4 id="friday">Friday</h4>
<ul>
<li>Garo Paylan in a tweet called Erdogan’s decision to convert Hagia Sophia into a mosque a sad day. Artsakh president Arayik Harutyunyan called it another display of Turkey&rsquo;s disrespect for cultural heritage, unaccountability for the Armenian Genocide and ongoing destruction of Armenian culture in Turkey. Georgia’s patriarch also called on Turkey to desist from converting Hagia Sophia into a mosque.</li>
<li>Armenian Media report that the French doctors who arrived in Yerevan early in late June appear to have left soon after a few rounds of Photo Ops, which indicate that they were here more for moral (political) support, than to help Armenian doctors in the fight against COVID-19.</li>
<li>US House panel implicitly backs legislation for continuing USAID funding for demining in Artsakh.</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="people-in-the-news">People in the News</h2>
<h3 id="anouch-toranian">Anouch Toranian</h3>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AnouchToranian/">Anouch Toranian</a>, former Exec Dir of AGBU France,  was appointed Vice Mayor of Paris, France in July, 2020.</p>
<h4 id="sources">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163673303370585/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDG8gAk2hG6xNpesodJjS7dhgyXqIQlGP1r9K7WRLUQKygJ8FmUScWMzM18CYX7lkstmlYPf2BeUHNpzli2wCbRJ8YrMQfmZTCYiIASCIUiRUeKAR1wqpOV0_wLSbzs6h3rlfjKth0X2m7NGF5e35GeYs047UIUItsGYDta787iZULXFRm-tYdix-I9MNzIC9B4hBRiHPDESoPgSlBVPDVxmefgWB_N_XLsj3Gp_68CkjUgPNa-xM7u3wnggfylbwDtAiKjYaA880qEfBJmbJMHo8EVm_n6gUNW0aS6JP0xG8GevxCE_DuWT8T0_vuHJa7XyA&amp;__tn__=-R">Armenian Anouch Toranian elected Deputy Mayor of Paris</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163677363180585/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARAgP4jLAm_-j1ZAM3lymgvem4kdiL6aO4pykp3LZGO-ntiIKEFwTp7fIePamtn8KQckovA1ggtC9SDrAvyPVxb8v5Xp4HTLqVsIlg7kT-_5UpaoFsWO8ogy_yVnGQpiDM6M1LsHGoR3rXBDJVoXyLl6GytP_G1OAKCFXDiJjmW8eazURcrcRQ-NXaTQ34tiV6vGk54GnPQwO3Qa67a8nDUMzboqBIIqPb0a72wUa5jnBuQHAcDiAbnywQJNYpZz2p_R-2joGvzm7fj87WrmOsiPG9-lAuc&amp;__tn__=-R">Paris Mayor appoints Anouch Toranian Vice Mayor of the city</a> - ArmenPress.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163675752370585/">Anouch Toranian Elected Head of 15th Arrondissement of Paris</a> - ArMedia.am</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="jeanne-barseghian">Jeanne Barseghian</h3>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jeannebarseghianstrasbourg/">Jeanne Barseghian</a> was elected mayor of Strasbourg, France in June, 2020. She is the great granddaughter of Berdjouhi Barseghian, one of the first three women elected to the Armenian Parliament during the first Republic of Armenia in 1918.</p>
<h4 id="sources-1">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163642698440585/">French Armenian Jeanne Barseghian elected Mayor of Strasbourg</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163676239425585/">Municipales 2020 : Jeanne Barseghian veut redonner un avenir vert à Strasbourg</a> - La-Croix.com</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163647789795585/">Newly elected mayor of Strasbourg is great-granddaughter of female MP of First Republic of Armenia</a> - News.am</li>
</ul>
<h3 id="marianna-gevorgyan">Marianna Gevorgyan</h3>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003301519786">Marianna Gevorgyan</a> won the top prize in the “Music of the peoples of the world” category of the _World Folk Vision 2020 _festival. This yearhe contest was held online, with 115 countries participating.</p>
<h4 id="sources-2">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163661166525585/">Armenian kanoon player Marianna Gevorgyan wins top prize at World Folk Vision 2020 festival</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163661470465585/">Armenian kanoon player Marianna Gevorgyan wins main prize of World Folk Vision</a> - Armenpress.am</li>
</ul>
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<p>After a brilliant performance, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MashaMaryMnjoyan/">Masha Mnjoyan</a> heads for the next round of competition in The Voice Australia.</p>
<h4 id="sources-3">Sources</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163683584650585/">The Voice Australia: Armenia’s Masha Mnjoyan through to Showdowns</a> - ArmRadio.am</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/groong/permalink/10163687121510585/">The Voice Australia: Armenia’s Masha Mnjoyan heads to next round</a> - Armenpress.am</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="wrap-up">Wrap-up</h2>
<p>We hope you found our <a href="/series/wir">Week in Review</a> helpful. We invite your feedback and your suggestions, you can find us on most social media and podcast platforms. Thanks to Laura Osborn for the music on our podcasts.</p>
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